Yes.

Don't you like things that other people don't?

You've kind of answered your own questions.

> Only other lolitas like the look of lolita.
(*well, and the people who are just fans of lolita, you don't have to dress in it to like it.)

Just like the only people who like [anything] are the only people who like [anything].

I think it depends on the type of lolita, i know plenty who liek the look nd dont wear it

>Why do you lolitas wear lolita?
because they like it
>Don't you realize everyone thinks it looks stupid?
i don't particularly care what other people think of what i'm wearing. i don't dress myself to be attractive to others.
>Don't you realize it's not attractive?
says who? you? are you the one wearing it? no? i am? well i think it's attractive.

>What is it about lolita that you covet so much?
just like the fashion

>Nobody in society or even weeaboo fans of Japanese culture think this crap looks good. Only other lolitas like the look of lolita.
then why do i get compliments every time i wear Lolita out?

>I understand wanting to be different
it's not about that, at all.

>but don't you want to embrace another fashion that would actually make you look good in the eyes of others?
i all ready said that i don't care what others think of me, it's sad that you do.

>Is it because you are ugly and self-conscious and believe wigs and crazy dresses will hide your appearance?
lol no. people who feel really ugly would never dress up so flashy and bring so much attention to themselves. they'd hide in the plainest of plain clothes.

>Are you just trying to copy Japanese people?
no, i'm not really in Japanese things outside of Lolita and j-rawk

>Only other lolitas like the look of lolita.

That's not true. There are people outside of lolita who enjoy or admire the fashion. For example, while my boyfriend doesn't think lolita is "sexy" he thinks I look beautiful in it, and frequently tells me so.

I'll only speak for myself, but I'm wearing it because I feel beautiful in it.

Girls wear it because they like to. It's about them not you. Grow up.

>gfrdfdhksdgdgrshj

>>4828514
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Listen.

People dress this way because it makes them feel good. Most women dress to attract the male gaze. Lolita isn't about that. It's about expressing yourself. That's why a lot of us couldn't care less what others think because we're tired of always having to dress for those outside of ourselves.

One day you'll learn that not everyone has shit-tier self confidence and doesn't wake up every morning to think "hmm, what can I do to make sure everyone likes me today?"
Some people's lives don't revolve around being accepted by others. Oddly enough, it's these people who aren't inhibited by confidence issues and openly show their true self to the outside world that get the most friends and admirers. Even if a man doesn't necessarily find Lolita itself attractive, there are plenty who admire a woman's courage to wear what she wants. If a girl likes pink and ruffles, why stop her? Why can't her skirt be poofy instead of skin tight, why does she need to only wear clothes that you like? Why does it matter to you?
To be honest, people who beg for acceptance are the ones who usually come off as unattractive.

Just because someone says they're not trolling doesn't mean they aren't.

>>4828595
I always find it funny when lolitas claim "MY BOYFRIEND TOTALLY LOVES IT!"

lol suuuuure he does. Keep living in that fantasy world.

during one con, i went to peek into the Lolita on a Dime panel. it was all about how to go about dressing in the style without draining your wallet. at one point, the lady leading the panel asked "okay, so who here can answer our first question - what is lolita all about?"

a girl raised her hand and said "bringing beauty and decorum in a rotten and jaded world?"

which is kind of what it is, actually. lolita is cute, and feminine, and innocent. to people who like lolita, that is what is so appealing to them. girls who wear lolita always, to me, look like the dolls i used to play with when i was a kid, and in the best way possible. i like the look, even though i wouldn't wear it myself, and personally i find it more appropriate to wear lolita dresses than some of the more revealing clothes you can find girls wearing nowadays. but that last bit is just my opinion.

Because we find it beautiful. We don't dress any way to please other people, a lot of us are SICK and TIRED of society acting like everyone exists for the sole purpose of making everyone else feel "comfortable". We dress how we dress to make OURSELVES happy, haters are gonna hate and no matter how hard those people hate us, we are who we are! We like what we like! A lot of us hate the way the majority of our society dresses and we find it to be UGLY! Just because you don't like something on or about someone else doesn't mean that person should have to change! Clothing is a harmless fascination, a harmless lifestyle, a harmless past time. If you don't like it, gtfo, chances are we don't like how you dress either.

>>4828647
My boyfriend just had sex with me as soon as I put on my AP dress. Keep living in your fantasy world where you have to wear tube tops and daisy dukes to attract men

My impression of lolitas:

>"What other people think doesn't matter in lolita. All that matters is what you think of yourself."
>"OMG THAT DRESS IS SO ITA YOU LOOK BAD IN IT THOSE COORDS AREN'T GOOD YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG."

>>4828647
I'm sure there are some that just says it to be nice, but I don't think my boyfrriend would sit and look at the clothes with me, ask me to show him every new dress I'm buying and wants me to tell the differences in the styles, if he didn't like he look of lolita on me.

>>4828661
Boy, your statements just keep getting more and more believable.

I doubt you even have a boyfriend.

Fuck you OP, I'm an ordinary guy and I love girls who wear lolita unless it's completely ridiculous with cake hats and baby toy decorations etc. I like it because so many women these days refuse to dress like women and when they do it looks extremely slutty. Lolitas aren't trying to be sexy and they don't reveal skin so that's why I find it kind of sexy. I fucking girls' fashion, they all wear leggings(leggings are NOT cute no matter what you or your friends think) or jeans. There's no femininity so I don't think I should treat them as fine ladies. Frills, skirts and dresses that cover enough skin and stockings & pantyhose are awesome.

>>4828649
But the stupid brand whores and most "western" lolitas don't feel that anymore. It becomes JUST A FASHION to them. No one cares, they become jaded and ugly. Itas start out with that feeling of beauty, but the lose it after a while...Like me..I started losing it, but I wanted it back.

>>4828669

It's alright if you foreveralone, you know, it's not a stigma anymore. You won't die a cat lady.

>>4828667
Guys will go along with whatever their girlfriend wants. If you think your boyfriend actually enjoys going lolita shopping with you then you have your head in the clouds.

>>4828685

Anon didn't say her boyfriend enjoys dress shopping, she said he's interested in her hobby.

>>4828670
And of course, the obligatory lolita shows up pretending to be a man to try to counter any attacks on their dumb hobby.

>>4828674
Who says being a spinster with a lot of cats is a bad thing?

>>4828670
Maybe classic lolita is 'lady like' but the most popular lolita is sweet lolita, which revolves around cute shit like unicorns and cupcakes and candy, with little girl shoes and bows.

That is not even a little bit 'lady like' or feminine, its just childish.

I, personally love lolita, but whenever someone calls it 'lady like' or 'feminine' or even 'how women should dress' i just facepalm so goddamn hard. lolita is cute, little girl shit. Not grown ass woman shit. just look at the popular prints.

>>4828695
I'm sure you also think your boyfriend loves romantic comedies and baby showers.

>Why do you lolitas wear lolita?
Because we like it.

>Don't you realize everyone thinks it looks stupid?
Actually I get tons of comments from strangers saying how much they love my outfits and how great I look. I can honestly say that the majority of the time when I go out in lolita for more than an an hour or so, at least one person will stop either me or what they are doing to tell me they love my outfit or think I look cute. How many times a day do people stop you to tell you that they love your style? As for the few dirty looks I get from usually ghetto fabulous middle school girls, I don't give a fuck. Why should I?

>Don't you realize it's not attractive?
See above answer. Besides, who the fuck cares? Everyone thinks something is not "attractive" but that doesn't mean we need to shield the general public from overweight people, people with bad skin, people with lazy eyes, people who are too bony, etc.

>Not trolling. I'm being serious. What is it about lolita that you covet so much?
I don't think covet means what you think it means.

>Nobody in society or even weeaboo fans of Japanese culture think this crap looks good. Only other lolitas like the look of lolita.
Again, see above answers.

>I understand wanting to be different, but don't you want to embrace another fashion that would actually make you look good in the eyes of others?
See above answers, yet again. Because why the fuck should I care about "looking good in the eyes of others" if I wanted to do that I would get breast implants and wear really low shirts. Everyone thinks something is ugly, so pretty much whatever fashion I choose I am sure would make people offended. If I wanted to go about my days in haute couture designer clothes I am sure people would be offended just because I spent so much on money. Can't please everyone, so why try?

>Is it because you are ugly and self-conscious and believe wigs and crazy dresses will hide your appearance?
Haha, no. Do people who wear jeans and tee shirts think that they are so ugly and self conscious that wearing the same clothes that everyone else wears will make them blend in and make their uglyness less noticeable? See, it works either way.

>Are you just trying to copy Japanese people?
No. Do people who wear basketball shorts think they are Magic Johnson? Do people who wear jeans think they are cowboys? Do people who wear animal print think they are cheetahs? Do people who wear heels think they are tall?

>I just don't get it.
Man, neither do it.

>>4828661
>>4828661
>poor boyfriend is forced to sexualize lolita instead of easier alternatives

>>4828710

Why. Why would I put him through that kind of bullshit. I'm sorry you're so buttmangled. Don't worry, there's always Ann Summers.

>>4828720
I never forced him to do shit. He just thinks my AP Salopettes are really cute. Problem?

>>4828647

Well, I certainly did not phrase my statement like that. You may not be able to fathom a man who thinks differently than you, but it is possible. Don't you think someone can value a visual aesthetic without adding sex to the mix?

I'm glad I'm not dating someone like you, as your views seem very limiting.

>>4828673

well in all style circles, there are people who only dress that way for the fashion. but for many others, it's about expressing yourself. that, and being happy with how you look.

don't be discouraged just because some people are 'ruining' lolita for you. if you really like lolita, like how it makes you look, the beauty and formality of it, how creativity comes into play, etc, then go ahead and be a lolita. just be happy with yourself, is what i'm trying to say, i guess.

>>4828711
>I can honestly say that the majority of the time when I go out in lolita for more than an an hour or so, at least one person will stop either me or what they are doing to tell me they love my outfit or think I look cute

A LOT of you girls need to realize, you look fucking weird and these people think you look fucking weird. they are coming up to you to tell you they think you look cute mostly because they admire your balls of steel and cant think of a better way to tell you. not because they love your outfit

>>4828752
>implying thats not a compliment anyway

>>4828752
You've obviously never had a stranger say anything nice to you before.

>>4828708
Yeah well that's true, I'm not into ageplay. This is on the borderline.

>>4828736
>thinks lolita isnt heavily sexualized

>>4828752
I wouldn't go out of my way to compliment someone if I didn't mean it. Unless it was meant as an insult, which I wouldn't do anyway but can see others doing it.

Lolita isn't about being attractive. It's about exhibiting the inner ego of most women to be a princess. It's the reason 6 year old girls want to wear their snow white halloween costumes around the house every day. They're trying to live out a personal fantasy of being beautiful and lavish.

The primary goal is much the same as the goal of cosplay: not to be attractive, but to win the admiration and approval of those that share their interest.

>>4828762

>STILL thinks lolita is heavily sexualised

>>4828770
>It's about exhibiting the inner ego of most women to be a princess.

No.
Not all lolitas wear pink party princess dresses.

I'm curious as to what you think looks good, because I can almost guarantee whatever you're wearing is hideously boring and the colours probably don't match.

>>4828785
Not all princesses wear pink. Point?

>>4828770
That's like saying every woman who wears hot pants wants to have her ass approved by other women in hot pants.

I agree with you OP... if it's sweet lolita.

Ahahah, but seriously.

Personal prefrence.
I see these threads all the time and remember when I was wearing /normal/ dresses to school, and some girl started talking saying shit to me like,
"You know everyone's laughing at you. You look stupid."
And well, I said it to her, I'll say it to you.
I think people who don't seem to understand the concept of doing something for yourself or because you like it sound stupid.

Also, why do people sag their jeans and wear retarded huge tshirts and tight fucking jeans?
They might look good in some of the "eyes of others", but fuck dammit that shit's uncomfortable and horrid looking to me.

>>4828748
I know, and I try, but it's really hard trying to be involved in a community filled with mostly people trying to deny that fashion has anything else going for it at all.

>>4828788
> the colours probably don't match.

I bet you say "coord" instead of "outift"

>>4828670
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>>4828785
Regardless of how loud the dress is, the sentiment is still very much the same.

>>4828792
That's a poor analogy. Wearing hot pants is not a special interest hobby and community

>>4828770
It SHOULD be about this, but it's not really.

>>4828808
>implying that's actually a guy saying that

>>4828799

well the fact that you're actually trying makes you awesome.

>>4828810
you know what

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THAT IS ALL THIS THREAD IS. Rufflebutts gonna ruffle, cosplayfags gonna cosplay, normalfags gonna bore the shit out of us all, WHO EVEN GIVES A SHIT REALLY.

>>What is it about lolita that you covet so much?
Why should I covet it?

I just like it, and I feel awesome in it.

>>4828700
Cat Ladies FTW!

>>4828810
Except not all women want to be a princess, dipshit.

The only people who think this are dumb girls who are constantly dreaming about a handsome man sweeping them off their feet and saying "Baby, you never have to work at the supermarket again, because I'm a rich doctor and am going to take you home to my mansion and open ALL THE DOORS BETWEEN HERE AND THERE for you!" and dumb guys who think that all women love to be coddled and who only feel macho because they are protecting what they view as someone weaker than them from the big bad scawwy worwld.

>>4828817
Well I dunno if a guy said that, but I'm a guy agreeing with it.
Read somewhere someone saying "blah blah sweet isn't feminine/classy"
Just gonna say I don't like sweet anyway.
I love classy ladies.
You don't need to be dressed in lolita to be classy, but there's more classy looking lolitas than.. not.

>>4828840
>Except not all women want to be a princess

Yes, they do.

>>4828851
Only lolitas think lolita is "classy".

Keep up the routine though.

>>4828855
I know a woman who wants to be a video game designer slash pharmacist (because it makes a lot of money) and have a sugar daddy.
Not a princess.

I'm not a Lolita but can't say it doesn't interest me. I'm a female tomboy type but look at loli fashion because someday I'd like to grow the balls required to wear dresses like these. Seriously I think it takes guts because I don't have the guts to wear loli. If I did, I'd be more on the goth loli elegance side. You don't have to wear pink and pastels and I've seen somewhat cleancut no-frills loli designs that rock.

>>4828840
>Except not all women want to be a princess, dipshit.
Oh come on I'm not even a lolita and even I know this is true. The only women who don't want to be a princess are greasy, bra-burning, obese feminazis.

>>4828855
No they don't. I want to be a librarian.

>>4828877
>wants a sugar daddy
>not a spoiled princess

Brolita here,
Just saying that Lolita isn't a fashion strictly limited to girls only.
Its just like any other trend or wear of apparel.
Some people like it and others could go on living without it.
Think of your questions thoroughly and see if you can answer them yourself before saying something so blatant.
It's exactly like asking someone, "Why don't you wear pants?"

>>4828877
I wasn't suggesting that women seek to a princess as their line of work.

>>4828887
A librarian is not a good thing to want to be considering that Borders just closed down from everyone switching to ebooks.

>>4828866
But I think they're classy.

>>4828887
I want to be a librarian too, but I don't think it's ever going to happen :(

>>4828897
lol @ you for misunderstanding what librarians do

>>4828893
Just because you're a gaywad who likes to dress in women's clothing doesn't mean lolita is gender neutral.

>>4828897
>librarian
>Borders
wtf am I reading

>>4828906

>gaywad

wat

I love lolita fashion simply because of things like this thread.
People are always going to criticize subcultures and the fashions that go with them. If people don't understand something they are often afraid of it, and then spend their time questioning or insulting it.
But the thought of anyone being threatened by women dressed in head to toe pink bows and ruffles for instance, makes me smile every time. I hope those be-ruffled, bow-headed lolitas continue going out and startling people with their unabashed girlishness. :)

>>4828903
>>4828915
I meant to say that more and more people are buying and reading digital books online and that libraries will eventually become obsolete due to this, not that people are buying books from a library, wtf.

>>4828926
>PEOPLE ARE JUST THREATENED BY HOW WOMANLY I AM.
>this is what lolitas actually believe

>>4828932
But librarians don't depend on books for work. Librarians are guides that lead the people to information. There are many libraries whose collections are strictly electronic.

I would say that I wear lolita for my own feminist ideals about representing/respecting the choice to be feminine.

But really I just smoke a lot of weed.

Also my boyfriend doesn't find it sexy but he goes to fashion shows and meets and takes an interest. Because I don't date people that are only interested in what gets their dick hard.

>>4828663
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>>4828663
this so much
"fuck you if you don't like what I like"
"eww I hate that, what a fucking hambeast in that ita dress"

>>4828932
Uhm no. This speculation has existed forever but there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that libraries are becoming less popular, much less obsolete. In fact, most libraries make great use of e-books and digital resources along with their printed materials.

>woman
>not a tomboy
>would rather be a prince

Princess roles are just boring as fuck, and I hate the idea of relying on someone else to take care of me or provide everything for me. It's not satisfying.

>>4828752
Something becomes not 'weird' when it's displayed and shown is such a casual way that people begin to understand and gain an interest in it. Maybe one day your small sad world will open up.

>>4828966

>>4828514
I don't wear lolita clothing and am not into the scene, but I think it looks good and definitely does not make people unattractive.

If you hate it so much then stop looking, go somewhere else and take your butthurt with you.

That's your opinion, which is fine. But that's like me saying "Why do people dress in tshirts and jeans? It just looks weird and is ugly." It's just an opinion. Irealize that's a little different since everyone wears that type of clothing, but just because everyone does something doesn't make it better. I'm not a lolita, but I like lolita clothing. I just think it's cute. .

>>4828985
I really hate this excuse.

>"ITS ALL JUST OPINION SO IT DOESNT MATTER!"

There is nobody on earth that finds lolita attractive except other lolitas. Stop comparing to other things like it's all the same.

>>4828985
and most people would agree that t-shirts with jeans are usually "weird" because most people who only wear tshirts and jeans don't wear things that fit or flatter that's bad quality and it looks frumpy and like you don't know how to dress(which if you look frumpy on a regular basis, you probably don't)

>>4828998
If normal people don't find it attractive then why do I get compliments every time I go out? Oh I'm sorry, they're probably lying to me. All of them. Every day,

>>4828906
Even if a guy might wear dresses and would love to act feminine from time to time doesn't make gay.
That's merely stereotyping.
There are billions of guys out there who are completely straight who decided to take on another fashion that many think is Female restricted and look damn good in it.
I personally like these types of brolitas because of their choice of clothing, style, and effort to not look shitting in their hobby.

Just my opinion here but, traps who dress slutty aren't sexy in any way.

>>4828998
I'm not a lolita, but I think some lolita is attractive. I'm not one to dig a lot of lolita. I think OTT sweet is ugly and ridiculous looking, and I'd never wear it.

I actually don't even care for most prints either.

Now something like this. I'd wear. It's from Mary Magdalene.

Also, http://www.marymagdalene.jp/contents/outwear/222/0401/

I think the white one is pretty looking.

I think that the girl in OP's pic looks ridiculous. Now if she was wearing something like the skirt, the overshirt and a simple cami style shirt underneath, a nice pair of solid stockings, heels, and maybe a small hair accessory or even just a flower clip. She'd look classy as hell.

>>4828998
what about random people who get into lolita because they saw someone wearing it? sure, they became a lolita then, or developed an interest in it, but at one point they weren't a lolita that found lolita attractive.

>>4828770
This is why I do it.
My boyfriend calls me his princess and I LOVE it!
Most lolitas, I find, don't do to for this reason though. I want to be a princess. Even if the only kingdom I reign over is one of make believe. I love feeling beautiful and feminine and childish. This is what lolita gives me.

(The last 2 outfits are classic lolita)

I don't dress full lolita. I personally think thin looks better in lolita clothes. I wear lolita inspired clothes and keep it toned down.
Once I have gotten down to 115-110lbs I'm going to accumulate more classic lolita. (My favorite style!)

>>4828514
>Not trolling

Riiiight.

>>4828514

My exboyfriend wasn't into lolita at all, didn't even know about it until he met me and he thought it was adorable, we had sex in one of my dresses one day because I thought I was just too cute to keep his hands off of in it.

And my current love interest, he's the last guy you'd think would like lolita! He's a tattoo artist/piercer and as such is covered in both tattoos and piercings from head to toe. The day I met him, I was in lolita and the next day when we were talking (I was hanging out at the shop with my bestfriend who is a tattoo artist there because I was staying with her all weekend) he admitted that he thought my lolita stuff was sexy. This tickled me quite a bit and I've shown him a few of my other outfits and he likes them all so far.

I think what it comes down to is how creative or uncreative the guy is. If the guy is creative then chances are he will like lolita or at least be more accepting of it. My ex was a musician, played bass in a really good band, and like I said this new guy is a tattoo artist so as fellow artsy people they understand the creativity behind it whereas normalfags just see crazy. Which is also what they see when they look at rock stars and people with lots of tattoos. : /

>>4829089

*because he thought I was just too cute to keep his hands off of in it.

Damn typo.

We do to piss off people like you.
Or maybe because we like it.

We don't dress up to make you happy. We dress up to make ourselves happy. It's time to stop thinking that women dress up to please the rest of society...is it that hard to wrap your mind around the fact that maybe, just maybe, some of us don't give a shit what society thinks about what we wear?

>>4829126
If lolitas dress to make themselves happy, then why are there lolita communities dedicated to judging others for not doing lolita the way they deem to be "good"?

>>4829156

That's how lolitas, no, that's how girls are.

>>4829156
Because this is the internet.

>>4829156
Because it is a community based on fashion, and all fashion communities are like this.If you saw some of THEIR wank communities....jesus christ, the lolita ones are nothing.

Remember emo and scene?

>>4829156
Because those people are mean. Same when people call another person derogatory comments (hambeast, weeaboo). They don't exist just in the fashion alone, but everywhere... Look at /cgl/ it's for the most part a hate mongering place filled with the same vile sentiment.

People do things to make themselves happy, some people don't have the confidence to do things like that. And it pisses them off, or they just wanna break down that confidence that a person has built. There are man reasons why a person can be mean to another. But that doesn't mean that the basis of doing or dressing a certain way isn't the core of why they like it.

>>4829163
>>4829187
This so much. It always irks me when people complain about how nasty lolitas are to each other on places like cgl and gtfoegl. I want to shake these people and demand to know if this is their first time on the internet, especially when people complain about gtfoegl. That place is more like a circle jerk about how politically correct everyone should be rather than a drama community.

Every single community or fandom I've ever been in online has had a drama community that went along with it, or has had just rampant drama. Some of those places make lolita drama look like rainbows and kittens. It's not unique to lolita, and I wish people would stop acting like lolitas are the only people ever to "ew omg did you see what so-and-so said, wore, or did?" on the internet.

>>4829161
I don't really think it's "because they're girls" though. I agree with >>4829162 that it's just the nature of the internet to enable easy access to judge and make fun of people.

An example being my grandpa belonging to a gardening snark forum where they make fun of the people who have super tacky and horrible gardens yet brag about them (with many many pictures) alllll the time on major gardening forums, lol. It's the same kind of thing and you see it in every big "fandom" (both in male-dominated and female-dominated forums). Maybe it feels more personal in fashion because it's the person's appearance you're critiquing idk. But really, you see it everywhere.

>>4829223
ahaha gardening snark? that is fascinating!

Lolita is not feminine at all. It is like the opposite of feminine. It is childish and crude. It obstructs the womanly, feminine figure and renders it into a cumbersome mass of boorish bows, ruffles and unflattering pastels, the likes of which might have been dreamed up by a spoilt 5 year old pageant girl. People don't see the elegant, uber feminine lady that you see when you look in the mirror. They see a woman child with the peter pan sydrome and horrible taste, worthy of pity and disdain.

>>4828514
I still haven't quite grasped the concept of wanting to attract complete strangers on the street you won't ever meet again and who are most likely to be a bunch of grumpy, greasy, ineducated wallflowers whose worst fear is it to "not fit in".
I wear lolita because I like how it looks. My bf likes it, my friends like it, and sometimes even some of the strangers on the street like it. "Normal" clothing is too plain and boring to me, and looking like everybody else won't make you look attractive. Attractiveness is something that makes you special above others. Having your own taste and way of life is more interesting than swimming with the crowd, OP, even if you tell yourself the opposite.

>>4829280

I wish OP would stop pretending to be different people and just give it up. Bad troll is very bad.

>>4829290
What makes you so sure i am OP? Are more than one person not allowed to have similar opinions?

>>4829300
By posting that pic, are you suggesting it somehow looks better than lolita?

>>4829280
Great post! If anything, lolita is almost a cartoonish parody of femininty.

>>4829223
This. My mom belongs to a snark forum for a soap opera and she and I love to sit back and watch people get pissed off at each other because someone called their favorite character a slut.

The forum mostly consists of men and women in the 40 to 50 range but it still gets pretty intense. One lady conducted a crusade against another because of something she said. She found the other woman's facebook and spammed the community with pictures of her that she had (poorly) doctored in MS paint. She said all this really harsh things about the woman all because of a disagreement.

My mom and I searched the user who was doing this and her profile said that she was a 43 year old woman from Virginia.

Hey lolitas, why the sluttyness? Why the obsession with prostitution and selling your own panties?

Do you enjoy eating cum?

I only think OTT sweet in public can look bad. Some lolita, if subtle enough just looks similar to formal wear, or something you could wear to the office.

>>4829304
>>lolita is almost a cartoonish parody of femininity

This is one of the reasons why I like it.

>>4829280
>says lolita isn't feminine
>It obstructs the womanly, feminine figure

Oh I see, because you think feminine is about showing your body. Femininity isn't just about physical appearances, which lolita is trying to show. It's more about the female spirit than anything else. To say "we are women and we don't adhere to your modern concepts of beauty, we adhere to our own".

While you're free to think we don't adhere to modern femininity is fine, but to say we're not feminine but crude and childish... Well that's where I have to disagree.

>>4829301
Would you break down and cry if i said that in my opinion yes, it does look better than lolita? I have to wonder why you would care either way.

>>4829314
No tears here. But it is my personal opinion that the women you are posting look just as silly as lolitas in those outfits.

Do any of you lolitas actually wear full lolita outfits to go grocery shopping? Are you ever scared you will be put on peopleofwalmart?

ITT: Lolitas trying to validate themselves to obvious trolls.

>>4829322
Awesome.

>he thinks to have femininity you need to show your body

How can you call yourself "innocent" if you're a lolita?

Do you have any idea how slutty you guy's reputation is?

So much fucking samefag.
Jesus Christ OP, can't you even -try-?

>>4829326
Only if I was already wearing it that day. But if I am at home and need to run to the store, I wouldn't bother putting on all those layers.

I think it'd be hilarious if I ended up on peopleofwalmart. Most of the time people ignore me or old ladies fawn over my outfits though.

>>4829333
Not at all, you cretin. I don't however believe that to be feminine you must cover yourself in bulky ruffles and cupcake skirts.And what exactly is wrong with showing the body anyway? There is nothing more beautiful than the female form.

>>4829351
Nothing is wrong with it troll-chan, it's just not the pinnacle of femininity.

>>4829351
because lolitas were repeatedly molested by the fathers/uncles/brothers and are now ashamed of their bodies and any sexuality that goes along with them. so they cover them in unsexy child-like clothes and live in a hambeast princess dreamland.

>>4829351
>>There is nothing more beautiful than the female form.

>>4829359
Do you not agree?

>>4829363

BUT IF YOU CAN'T SHOW OFF YOUR BOOBS AND ASS HOW WILL ANYONE KNOW YOU'RE FEMININE?

Females and femininity comes in all sorts of shapes and flavors, not just tacky burlesque photos taken so that men of bygone eras can rub one out.

>>4829366
Who said anything about boobs and ass? You are very close minded, and im disappointed that i can't have a serious discussion without some idiot putting words in my mouth.

It's weird but…. Women basically exist solely to please men.

Everything they do, starting from about the age of 14 or 15, is designed to please us: Makeup, flattering dresses, skirts, blouses. Stuff like jewellery and the masses and masses of skincare creams and other 'anti-ageing' products. Even nerdy shit like lolita they do to please us, wearing progressively more revealing outfits in the hope of elliciting male attention. Tattoos and piercings as well.

Women will even get 'surgery' done on their pussies to make them look nicer for us. They'll enlarge their tits, they'll do this all knowing the risks of such things, but doing it anyway.

Women exist to please men.

Sexually they _love_ to serve. Women are insanely submissive sexually, just alpha male, patriarchal-esque 'order' to them to do something is enough to get them turned on. And when they're turned on they'll do anything for you, and let you do anything to them. They'll beg for you to degrade them and humiliate them in ways you've never imagined.

Women exist to please men.

So please femanons. Remember to be good little girls and serve your men well. Because really, deep down, that's all you want in life.

>>4829368
Um, because the only 3 photos you had posted when I typed up my response was a cheap painting of a cheesecake pinup girl selling cigarettes, a burlesque dancer, and a photo of a woman stripping.

Since then you have posted a saucy lady from the 40s pouting for the camera, a runway model, and an over-processed fashion shoot. Until you can come up with better examples, I will assume that by "feminine" you mean "old porn and bullshit high fashion".

Obviously we have different ideas of what it means to be feminine.

>>4829368
It's not a woman's duty to be "sexy" 24/7 to please her husband or whatever. Have you ever thought that women could not want to be considered sexy and create boners for a day? I know that I can be hot and sexy if I want, and if I want I'm wearing a short skirt and different makeup. And then there are days where I want to feel cute and safe from all those disgusting starers on the street who forget their own name when seeing a woman in a tiny skirt passing by. It's fun to look what I want to look like sometimes, not what men would want to me to look like so they can put me in their dirty fantasies. A woman's day is not 100% sex all the time, we have different interests too.

>>4829387
>wear a tiny skirt
>bitch about being stared at

Whore.

>>4829379

Guys.

We have got to stop being so easy to troll.

>>4829390
Read again. I said if I want to be safe from the starers, I dress accordingly and cover myself. When I'm wearing a short skirt on purpose, I'm not complaining. There are days where you can take the stares, and others where you can't. Gosh, men and their range of emotions that can fit a teaspoon.

>>4829379

Careful with that copypasta, OP- its an antique.
Cant you give us something a little more fresh?

>>4829382
I don't believe femininity is about what you wear. Its about the essence of womanhood and the sensuality that goes along with it, which seems to be something that lolitas surpress in their quest for continual childhood.

I'm not quite sure what's going on here but, "femininity is a set of attributes, behaviors, and roles generally associated with girls and women."
Lolita is a form of femininity expression, just as much as pin up girls from the 40s-50's. While, Lolita is a more child-like form of femininity, it still is "feminine."
As >>4829356 stated, it has a reason to be the way it is.
Ruffles, frills, lace are all associated with the female gender just as much as graceful chiffon.

In short,
>Females and femininity comes in all sorts of shapes and flavors

And all men can rub one off to anything, including (maybe even especially) lolita.

/thread

>>4829401
You were made to be impregnated.

Fucking birth control.

>>4829403
And how exactly do you know the reasons behind why lolitas wear what they do? Not all lolitas want to look like toddlers and cover themselves in ruffles until they are nothing but a big ball of teddy bear printed ruffles, even a fucking google image search will tell you this.

You don't speak for all of womanhood when you define your own personal definition of femininity either. So stop making big stupid generalizations about both a fashion that contains tens of thousands of followers and a gender that makes up half the worlds population.

tl;dr this is my impression of you "Derp, all lolitas want to look like babies, which is the opposite of what ladies stand for, which is about looking sexy. Here's a picture of porn to prove my point"

>>4829415

Am I the only guy who fucking loves lolita?

I love the thought of like, hiking up a girl's ruffley dress, ripping her panties to one side and fucking her like the filthy whore she is, either finishing off inside of her or all over her face. Facials are perhaps better just because of what a dirty little slut she'd look like.

It's weird but…. Men basically exist solely to please women.

Everything they do, starting from about the age of 14 or 15, is designed to please us: muscle workout, striving to drive a big car, attempts to apply hair gel, jeans that show off your butt. Even embarassing shit like wearing sunglasses in closed rooms they do to please us, wearing hopefully fashionable outfits in the hope of elliciting female attention. Tattoos and piercings as well.

Men will even get 'surgery' done on their penises to make them look larger for us. They'll swallow little pills, they'll do this all knowing the risks of such things, but doing it anyway.

Men exist to please women.

Sexually they are built to serve before they can receive. Their minds are on women in every hour each day. They put them as their wallpapers, on their calendars, they worship their beauty whenever a woman enters the room. Men are insanely willing to do anything to get sex, no matter how hard or stupid the task. And when they're turned on they'll do anything for you, and let you do anything to them. They'll beg for you to degrade them and humiliate them in ways you've never imagined.

Men exist to please women.

So please maleanons. Remember to be good little boys and serve your women well. Because really, deep down, that's all you want in life - our delicious boobs and pussy, and you're ready to go through fire for them.

>>4829426
never understood the point of that image

>>4829424
Looks like a confused bulldyke.

>>4829403
from what I gather, MOST loli's wear lolita for the same reason you see people who wear baggy frumpy clothing or that crazy rainbow jacket with 5 billion acessories.
it's usually they either want:
a) attention, either because they want to out do someone else in something that doesn't matter, or insecurities
b) they want to in a sense "hide themselves" because they're insecure
c) they want to stay a "little kid" in a sense. though this one doesn't seem to pop up much

personally I like some classic since it isn't OTT and you can pull it off as fancy wear. though it looks stupid if you're wearing it for something outdoorsy or grocery shopping. it's just too dressy most of the time.

>>4829433

>mouldy copypasta
>blatant contradictions
>tumblr photos of old memes, for christ's sake

If there's anything worse than a troll, its a troll with no sense of finesse.
You lack subtlety.

>>4829433
>Sexually they are built to serve before they can receive. Their minds are on women in every hour each day. They put them as their wallpapers, on their calendars, they worship their beauty whenever a woman enters the room. Men are insanely willing to do anything to get sex, no matter how hard or stupid the task. And when they're turned on they'll do anything for you, and let you do anything to them.

This is true.

Women's beauty is mesmerizing. It's no wonder Ancients worshipped female Godesses as perfect represents of feminimity.

>They'll beg for you to degrade them and humiliate them in ways you've never imagined.

This isn't. I want to degrade you, I don't want you to degrade me.

I like doing terrible things to my girlfriend sexually and then cuddling up next to her after that exhausting fuck session.

>>4829447
Looooool Maury is always relevant.

>>4829443
Weird because from what I've heard, both in this thread and from talking to fellow lolitas, MOST lolitas wear it because they think it's "pretty" and they "like it", and they "like" to "wear" things that they "enjoy" and find "fun" to "look" at and make them "feel" "good".

>>4829433
Actually, just as much of that is to establish pecking order to other men. Likely moreso.
And it's funny how easily you can see this was written by a guy.
PROTIP: guys are the ones that care about having a bigger dick, not women.
Love, a big dicked black guy

>>4829470
What do they plan on using those dicks for? Sword fights?

>>4829476
No, because that's mad gay.
In honesty, it's just one more way to for guys compare each other. That's really it, competition in all things, all the time, because these days, it can be real hard to find something to claim as making you inherently better.
Busting your hump for years to be able to provide for your family is really the only thing left that can't be bought from a silver spoon that every guy will respect outright, at least I hope so.

>>4829491
That still doesn't answer my question, what are these guys comparing dick lengths for? Just the sheer joy of whipping out their dick in front of another man and the sweet satisfaction that comes after?

Traditionally, men brag about big dicks because they think it's what pleases the ladies best.

>>4829464
because people never lie to themselves
ex:
women who often wear oversized clothing or dress "tomboyish, say the don't like make up etc" are in fact very insecure even though they say they aren't. People do that shit all the time.
Chances are if you know someone who acts very confident, they're really not
PT is a decent example, although she probably has legit mental issues

>>4829533
Oh god give it a rest already and don't fucking bring up PT. Can there ever be a post on here that doesn't have some armchair psychologist trying to play spot what's wrong with PT?

>>4829532
Men brag about it the same way they will brag about ANYTHING that can be used as being superior to the guy next to them.
Your post doesn't really counter mine, especially since some guys WILL just whip their dicks out because they can. I know this one guy, has like the biggest sack I've ever seen, and he decided to teabag my damn dog one day because he could. Had to dropkick him for that.

>>4829562
So does this guy press his ballsack up against yours and compare how big it is? Or maybe your dog made entirely out of your own ballsack and he was teabagging your dog to show your how much larger his ballsack was compared to your dog-sized ballsack?

I was talking about dudes comparing dick sizes, and why they think that having a larger dick makes them better. I don't know why you decided to randomly tell me a story about your dogs first ballsack experience.

>>4829433
Girl here, I disagree with this.

I like the idea of pleasing my boyfriend. I like being submissive. Most girls feel like this.

I know this maybe hard to understand at first...but just try. Ready? Alright..here we go.

People like the clothes.
I know I know, slooow down there! It's a huge shocker.

>>4829590

Agreed. Femanons are submissive and react positively to power. femininity is the essence of submission.

>The happiness of man is: I will. The happiness of woman is: he wills.

It's deeply sad to me that you see someone who's having a lot of fun, and feel compelled to shit all over it.

I mean, seriously OP, what happened to you in your childhood? What made you such a bitter soul that you can't appreciate some silliness and ridiculousness in life? What made you a joy-killer?

You're that guy who sits in the corner refusing to talk when everyone is dancing and having drinks because "dancing is ~stupid~ and you look like~faggots~"

I submit it is you, sir, who is the joyless faggot, and I sincerely invite you to pull the stick out of your ass.

>>4829637
NO U

>>4829582
Because it's not always about hey I have this so I am better with women.
A bigger ball sack will not get you more women (well, some might be into it idk) but it was something he would brag about because he could brag about it, just like being taller, being able to squat or press more.
The point is not everything, especially these days, has women and impressing women at the end of it. It's also about finding status amongst men. Women just happen to be one of the easier ways to do that.

Stop feeding the fucking troll. Can't you tell that nothing you say to this person will matter? I know you all want to stand up for yourself and put in your two-cents, but your points are all moot regardless of how correct they may be.

You may as well be talking to a pile of shit on the sidewalk. Don't just stand there and tell it that it's stinking up your air. Freaking walk away from it and move on with your more important day. DAMN!

>>4828770

>Beautiful does not = Attractive

No, you're full of shit. All fashion is about looking attractive, even if that attraction only occurs in limited forms. Nobody in their right mind would ever wear clothes that they felt were ugly or made them look extremely unattractive, otherwise why spend 400USD on an outfit when you could wear trash bags and get the same effect for practically no cost?

While many lolitas will assert that they do not wear lolita to "look attractive," often to keep in touch with some self-imposed idea of purity, ultimately many of these same girls say that they wear the dresses because the dresses are pretty. Pretty = Attractive, the words aren't mutually exclusive. If you don't like your own outfit, that is to say if your outfit isn't attractive to you or somebody else, then you wouldn't have paid money to wear it. You might say that you're not wearing an outfit for anybody but yourself, but that doesn't mean that you don't love it when somebody compliments you on how great you look in a certain dress. Fashion is the art of making yourself attractive through your style of dress, deal with it.

PS: OP is full of shit. I am a male and I find certain types of lolita very attractive. My girlfriend is just getting into the fashion and I'm sure she'll look absolutely adorable no matter which style she chooses. I don't dress in it myself, therefore OP is wrong. It only takes one dissenting opinion to disprove a statement like that, so /thread.

>>4829637

simple answer ...we were lolita because we dont care what others think of us.

>>4830121
And ironically, lolitas spend a lot of time caring about what other people wear.

>"I don't care what you think of me, but I'll be incredibly judgmental to you and say you're not doing it properly."

That's why that excuse is full of shit.

>>4830121
LOL bullshit. Lolitas are COMPLETELY concerned with cares of how they're presented. If it was true that being lolita was about not caring then you wouldn't be calling other lolitas "ita", you would be commending them on their self-expression because they're showing that they don't care.

Lolita has nothing to do with not caring. You do care. You've just been brainwashed by other lolitas into thinking this shit is a fashion. Which is why you want to buy into the lie that people like your boyfriend or people in public like your retarded costumes.

Lolita is costumes where ugly women try to make themselves feel pretty and special. If they were good looking they wouldn't be into lolita. That's the reality. Which is why you're trying to escape it.

>>4829280
so your saying to be feminine you need to show ur ass, tits and hips? try again

>>4830183
To look feminine you need to at least let people know that you HAVE an ass, tits or hips.

>>4830193
Non lolita here. I wore a trapeze dress today. The cut of a trapeze dress is such that it flows immediately away from the body at the shoulders. It doesn't cling to any of the necessary female parts you've mentioned, yet I would say that I look very feminine in it.

what i don't get is why people like you op and others in this thread feel the need to insult a group of people just because they choose to dress out of the norm. i understand that you might not like the fashion or think of it as stupid but honestly why such hatred? it is not like you are being force to dress that way or force to look at it. the only explanation i have to why people like u act like nazis is that there is some type of jealously or envy that fuel your hatred. i'm not a great fan of some fashion styles but you dont see me writing 500 words about it

Who the hell said people don't like it?

I'm a guy and I'd love to see them in real life.

>>4828514
Guy here. I haven't read the thread so sorry if I'm just repeating stuff that's already been said, but I used to think it looked kinda funny (and I still do think some of the more extreme and/or OTT styles look silly) but much of the fashion has grown on me since I started frequenting /cgl/.

It's novel at worst and gorgeous at best. While perusing Lolita threads there have been more than a few instances in which I would definitely have lost had it been a "you fall in love you lose" thread.

Pic related, I wish more women dressed like this.

>>4828663
I lol'd.
There are some really shitty people who are into lolita fashion, just as there bad fans of anything.
I hate most of the community. I have a list of girls in the community who I think are complete assholes, and if I have the chance to ever meet them in person, I will just walk away.
I wear the fashion because I like the aesthetic and I like the feel of the petticoats when I walk and I like tap tap tap of the cute shoes down cobblestone streets.
Not everything is about being accepted by your peers.

>>4830227
>>4830232
Samefag. Stop trying so hard.

How does one go about getting a lolita girlfriend?

Dude here by the way, I find them gorgeous.

>>4830232
The girl in the pic looks good because she's a model. Not because of that goofball outfit.

>>4830249
>Lolita here, pretending to be a guy is fun. I'm gunna keep reposting this same shtick in order to spite. It's my only defense!

>>4830261
But I am actually a guy...

>>4830263
If you were a guy you wouldn't keep introducing each post as "BTW IM A GUY" and only posting to defend the honor of the lolita hobby, which you shouldn't even have an emotional investment in if you weren't in it.

Also, nothing you say is what an actual guy would say.

>>4830273
>implying all 'actual guys' have the same way of communicating

>>4830261
Don't get why it's so hard to believe that there's guys who find lolita style attractive.
Overandover.

>>4830273
I've never actually been to a con, so I don't know what the average lolita looks like, but stuff like >>4830232 and other pics I've seen have been really adorable and feminine. It's that cute innocence.

>>4830282
Because there's nothing about it that is attractive. Only lolitas think that.

Lolitas just want to impress other lolitas. They're all ugly anyway so who gives a shit. Let the hambeasts and mutants dress up in their halloween costumes if they want.

I wear lolita because where else can I get fucking marshmallow twists and ponies on a dress.

>>4830290
Or maybe because you feel so strongly about that you can't even begin to fathom someone finding it attractive that isn't a lolita.
Maybe you should just, you know, keep it to yourself and let people like what they like for whatever reason they like it.

>Only other lolitas like the look of lolita.

Threaded you're own thread. Answered you're own question.

It's because we like how it looks.

The opinions of nonlolitas don't matter as much, since they obviously don't even know what they're looking at.

>>4830316
You like it because you're fat and the dresses remind you of cupcakes.

Lolita is just about fat girls wearing shit that reminds them of food. You have a disorder.

The funny thing is lolitas do really slutty stuff to make up for the fact they don't get any attention. Most guys consider them easy.

>We wear what we like because we enjoy it and don't care what other people have to say! Fuck you if you're going to judge us for it, we do what makes us happy!
>GIRLS WHO WEAR REVEALING CLOTHING ARE DISGUSTING SLUTS, THERE'S NO REASON TO DRESS THAT WAY UNLESS YOU'RE A COCK-HUNGRY WHORE

>>4830341
This.

Must be sad, just letting men use you and then being left rather than ever having a real relationship :)

>>4830333
Actually, given the recent shitstorm, you would be surprised how many lolitas have an eating disorder - to fit clothes considered plus size in Japan.

>>4830341
>>4830352
>>4830356
projecting much? everyone knows cosplayers are whores. look at all the cosplayers who have gone into porn, haha.

think guys want to have a LTR with that kind of girl?

>>4830362
I'm not seeing what >>4830352 has to do with what you said

That anon was making fun of how lolitas say people who judge them are stupid, only to turn around and judge other girls for dressing provocatively

>>4830352
lol, Only people like Crystalmoon actually say or think that.

And she's a failure.

>>4830368
so what, it's true, you dress like whores because you sleep around.

I honestly would LOVE to date a lolita, but I'm a fat guy with not much fashion sense, other then what fits, and hawaiian shirts. :/
But, I would also like to date a cosplayer to couple with at times, but with the same problems, plus or minus the fashion problem, really. So either way, dicks man.

Lolitas must have more than a few ounces of humor when it comes to their fashion. We are abundantly aware of how the public perceives us. Most have mixed feelings about that perception. But the reality is, when we look in the mirror, what we see ignites a giddy, happy, lovely feeling that overpowers any of the negative attention it garners. And we laugh it off as a part of life!

Some people feel their most beautiful naked. Some feel the their most beautiful in a killer pair of stilettos or a perfect pair of jeans. Some of us feel that way in the perfect frilly dress.

>>4830362

$100 bucks that is a guy. I live in Tokyo and see this shit every day. More often than not - guy.

I wear lolita because i am a plain, slightly chubby white girl who can't stand out any other way. When i wear a tank top and shorts, nobody looks my way and it makes me feel like shit, but whenever i wear lolita i get an army of old women fawning over me and telling me how cute i am. It makes me feel special and princessy. I like to feel that i am a part of something, some special society that nobody but a select few others understand.

>>4830310

Well said.

>>4830392
I want old ladies to love me...
I miss you grandma...

>>4830370
Just FYI, Crystalmoon's sold most of her lolita stuff.
No one cares about her anymore, she's old news anyway.

>>4830387
What do you see every day? Elaborate.

>omguhr there's people who wear stuff I don't like, how do I get them to stop?

because mainstream fashion doesnt speak to me. there is no elegance, no femininity. everything is ugly and harsh and manly and plain. i want to return to beauty and loveliness. i want to feel soft lace against my skin, and decorations in my hair, to be a vision on the sidewalk. to have people stare in awe and admire the effort and time i must have put into creating something quite so arrestingly charming.
thats why i wear lolita, and nobodys negative opinion can change the way i feel about it.

>>4830406
Just FYI, I was using her as a poster-child of a certain type of girl that we all know, but in a way that is easily relate-able to the average seagull.

Hence,
>girls LIKE Crystalmoon

>Only other lolitas like the look of lolita.
>lolitas like the look of lolita.
There you go.

I like princesses, they're cute and dainty and almost too good to be real. Looking at lolitas makes me happy because to me it's like seeing a real life princess.
And that's about it really, even if it is a stupid reason. Opinions man.

>>4830417
Bitch, you delusional.
I'll bet a million dollars that you are a lifestyle lol-ita.

>>4830417
I think this is a wonderland perspective of lolita fashion, though I'd have to say that in reality not everything that's NOT lolita is "manly or plain". There's plenty of fashion that includes lace, feels lovely, and feminine and isn't constituted as lolita. I just feel like point that out before making it sound like lolita is the extreme opposite of what's going down runways or in boutiques and stores. O_o

I think the troll's question was more along the lines of why do lolitas think what they're wearing is flattering when it isn't?

>>4830248
>samefag
Yeah, if you say so bro.

>>4830255
It's actually the outfit I find attractive more so than the girl. I have a thing for heavy winter coats, scarves, fur-lined hoods, mittens, all that kind of stuff.

I'm not a lolita, because I have a student budget and prefer to spend my clothing money on simple pieces that I can wear for a long time, but I really enjoy and respect lolita. I have a definite love of beautiful, well-made clothes, more "old-fashioned" or "classic" lines as opposed to modern fashion, and I love it when people make clothes with a huge attention to detail.

I don't really like OTT sweet and some of the more bonkers styles, but I think classic lolita can be gorgeous and well-done. Just as I think many fashions can be done that way. You can be preppy and roll in the bargain bin at American Eagle and Hollister and wherever the hell else people go, or you can be preppy and wear crisp, clean blouses and nice sweaters and the like. (Just an example)

tl;dr, I think lolita can be done beautifully and stunning, or awkward and "too much", but it's basically up to people to wear what they want to wear, not my place to judge.

>>4830417
I would agree with you, but keep in mind that there are feminine styles that aren't necessarily Lolita. Take the picture here, for example. It's princessy, covered in embellishments, and very feminine, but not Lolita.

I don't dress for others. I dress in it because I think it's beautiful. If you don't like it, good for you, but I love it.

>>4830290
To you.
Why do people keep thinking their opinion equals the opinion of everyone else on earth. Get over yourself. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean all other people don't either. Different strokes for different folks.

are there many lesbian/bisexual lolitas?
are they attracted to girls who aren't lolita?
are there any of the above in oxford?

>.>
<.<

A+ trolling, OP.