Because lolita fashion is totally a Japanese creation. Not based on foreign fashion at all.

Jesus fuck.

It's funny, because i highly doubt all those asian chicks have taken the time to learn anything about western history and culture, but japan fucking loves micket mouse. funny how that works.

Also, isn't it based off English clothing anyway? double standards much?

Pic related: a very obviously white lolita who looks natural and not retarded.

>origin of Lolita

Something tells me she hasn't found that out, either.

Seriously?

> even bothered to find out the origin of Lolita.

Girl better look in the mirror because she just set off her own "bullshit little teen Western girl" alarm.

Thanks OP, I needed a laugh

But she's white.
Is she not a lolita?
How... even... what?
So is she saying thatshe doesn't know the language, culture, or origin either?

Idgi.jpg

>I won’t reblog Lolita girls that aren’t French/European. I’m sorry, but it just looks wrong, and a little try-hard. I agree that everyone is allowed to have a personal taste but I don’t like Rococo style being an accessory to these bullshit little teen Japanese girls when they haven’t bothered to A) learn the language. B) learn anything else about France other than cheese and Paris; and C) read up on any French history and even bothered to find out the origin of Lolita.

Oh Lawdy.

>>4818655
Taken from her tumblr description -

>Adalia. Seventeen. British teenager.

What kind of a fucking retard spouts off about the history of a foreign culture, when it's originally based off of THIER OWN GODDAMNED CULTURE?

everyone knoes that lolita is from CHINA and not ENGLAND PFFFFFFT
sirry white girls!
harharhar

THAT BITCH IS WHITE TOO.....
WTH.....

Lol one of the commenters:

>I mean, yeah, I prefer alot of asian Lolitas, because the western lolitas tend to be elitists cunts, but that’s besides the point.

It's not like Japanese lolitas are elitist jerks anyway either. Not to mention I doubt she knows a majority of lolitas, western or eastern, enough to give a testament of their personality anyway.

But... I think western girls look more natural in Classic/Gothic Lolita. Perhaps not the OTT Sweet styles; but I'm sure this girl is completely unaware that classic even exists.

>>4818673
a lot of japanese lolitas constantly talk trash about western lolitas stealing their clothes when they're too fat for them, lol

>>4818691
Exactly. And although it's normal for their culture, a lot of English speaking lolitas would consider them 'brand whores'. Hell, they even have their own /cgl/ equivalent. No one is innocent

>>4818691
Where did you read that? Though I find it funny as all hell since the Japanese girls who typically wear lolita fashion are fat by their countries standards.

LOL whats funny is she totally has reblogged white lolitas before. Hilarious.

Lolita came from Victorian and French fashion, and became a bit more simplified and had a "Japanese take" to it. Some of us also had an interest on Japanese culture LONG before lolita. I learned a Japanese folk song when I was 9 years old and watched subbed anime when I was 11. Fuck off.

>>4818720
I have alerted her to this fact. Unfortunately, she may not be buttmad enough to make a further fool of herself.

Yeah, it's not like the Japanese brands have white models or anything.

Wait...

She should've just admitted that she'll only reblog azns because she likes how kawaii they look.

>I’m a survivor of bullying and depression. To all of you who never knew this about me~ now you know. I’m a loving, caring person. I really am. I can say that now because my self-confidence is higher than my self-esteem. But I don’t want anyone to feel as low as I did. So when I see someone who’s down, or upset, I can’t stand it, and have to try to make them better.

>My name is Adalia and every single one of you is a truly beautiful person.

>I love you.

Except for young, white lolis. You can all get the fuck out.

I especially like how she says that she won't reblog girls who haven't bothered to learn the language and study the history and culture of Japan, yet assumes that every ASIAN girl has done that. No, sweetheart, I can assure you that quite a lot of people in Asian countries that are not Japan couldn't give less of a fuck about Japan and their language and their culture and their history. "Asian/Japanese" is just a nifty way of saying "I can't tell different Asian ethnicities apart and pick only Japanese girls, so I'm just going to lump you all together!"

If a westerner wants to wear Victorian/Rococo inspired clothing, I think they have the hipster right away. We've been doing it long before it was cool (well, cool for the second time). I'm still baffled that a British teenager has no sense at all of her OWN culture's history. Really, for fuck's sake. She's just another white chick dying to kiss azn kawaii desu ass.

I prefer non-asain lolis for some reason, especially black girls ;C

> MEANWHILE I WANT THE SECRETS TO BE UP

Ultimately it's her tumblr and her fucking blog. She gets to post whatever she wants on it, even if it's for racist reasons or political reasons or because her crystal said it was going to rain reblogs today. You may not agree with her reasons but that's her choice.

Why so get buttmad for? Do you lolitas all have some dreams of being tumblr famous by having your photos reblogged and this girl stands between you and tumblr fame or something?

>>4819017

no one gives a flying fuck about that, it's just hilarious that she's a massive hypocrite.

>>4819041
How is she a massive hypocrite? For being a white lolita? For continuing to post pictures of herself in lolita in her blog? For previously having held a different opinion?

The more I come by these sorts of threads, the more I get the feeling you lolitas don't understand the meaning of the word "hypocrite". Having previously held a different opinion and then changing it doesn't make someone a hypocrite. Having stated an opinion and continuing to do things at odds with it does.

>>4819044
for being a white lolita who makes a blog post about how she will only reblog pictures of asian lolitas because white lolita's don't look right.

and then saying that white lolitas shouldn't be lolitas because they cant speak japanese.

did you read any of this thread at all....?

>>4819050

>lolita's
lolitas*

i derped.

>>4819044
Fuck, calm down. Everyone's buttmad because she has no idea what she's talking about and is implying Lolita is a completely original, 100% Japanese idea. Not only that, but she makes it sound like being Asian means you know the Japanese language and history.
It's funny and enraging because she's talking about the "origin of Lolita" and how important it is to know it, while she clearly doesn't have a shit of the idea. The cherry on top of it all is that she is white, and can't even be properly assumed to know Japanese history, the language or anything else about Japan unless she proves it.

>>4819050
That is not called being a hypocrite as long as she has not posted pictures of white lolitas since her announcement. As stupid as it sounds she probably thinks she looks awkward in lolita and not as good as the Japanese. That's her personal issues. Who cares. If she personally thinks she looks the shit in lolita but not other white girls, that's called a "double standard".

Also "white lolitas shouldn't be lolitas because they can't speak Japanese" isn't how I read the post at all.

>>4819058
The flipside is, nobody here knows this chick so nobody can prove either way. It's nothing to have a /cgl/ thread about.

>>4819066
you chose a strange person to whiteknight over.

i agree that everyone is entitled to choose whatever they want to post on their blogs, for whatever reasons. they don't really have to justify it to anyone.

but this girl went out of her way to write some dumb post about how western girls can't be lolitas because they don't know anything about japan. she will only reblog pictures of "asian" lolitas, even though according to her logic, any non japanese lolita shouldn't be in the fashion, including other asians anyway.

and then less than an hour later she writes some huge post, ending it with "every single one of you is a truly beautiful person."

she really has no idea what she's talking about.

do yes, she has the right to act like an idiot on her blog.
and we have the right to call her out on it.

>>4819074
*so yes


why do i suck today

>>4819066 It's nothing to have a /cgl/ thread about.

Thread about a chick who runs a lolita blog. Sounds /cgl/ relevant to me.

I'm calling self-whiteknight

>>4818701
They have their own cgl? I want to see!

>>4819096


Same.

>>4819096
Thirded.
>>4818701
I wanna see it too! Please share with us.

I think she has a future... in politics. That's where hypocrites always end up.

>>4819147
>>4819105
http://new02.bbs.2ch2.net/visualtanuki/ have fun

link deleted?

why are american lolitas so fat

i live in an area where this nerdy bullshit happens all the time and i see the pictures and see skinny lolitas and i go outside and see whales dressed up in the exact same thing. lolita stores can't sell XXX clothing can they?

>>4819238
I see it fine?

>>4819244
stfu eurofag and take a long hard look at moitie whores on your continent

>>4819248
i'm not european LOL. i live in the atlanta are and i've visited ucb and nyu and both of these areas have obese people dressed up as lolitas.

mad pig is mad cause she can't fit in her dress

>>4818648
To be fair, I have a very low opinion of anyone who isn't American and wears denim jeans or a Disney shirt. Don't get me started on cowboy hats and boots.

>>4819250
American = US-American? Fuck, I hate your attitude.

>>4819253
In general, yes. For southern American countries I would refer to the specific country's name and if I was talking about Canada, I'd say Canada.

>>4819249
except that I own a closet full of brand and it all fits.

>>4819250

Canadian here. You're an idiot. Most of my country is farmland, even if you live in Toronto you only have to drive for about 15 minutes to a half hour before you hit farms. I work on a farm. What the fuck am I supposed to wear if not fucking jeans?

Your privilege is showing.

>>4819253
Not that poster, but just a heads up that most people call USA citizens Americans.
United States Americans doesn't really roll off the tongue, nor does USA citizens. I know the USA isn't the only country on the continent (North or South), but this seems like an odd thing to pick on.
(Don't agree with the rest of her argument though.)

>>4819250

That is funny, I have a very low opinion of USA citizens who do wear jeans, disney shirts, and cowboy hats and boots. What a funny world this is :)

>>4819267

>>4819273
well you shouldn't because we invented the fashion

>>4819265
are you asking if i'm mad because you're able to wear extra large dresses?

really?

>>4819278
76cm bust and 62cm waist is extra large? really?

0/10 nice trollan

>>4819273
I have a low opinion of people who wear long sleeve shirts with shorts, and flip flops with jeans and formal dresses.

>>4818650

damn I lol'd

...she's english? really?
What the hell man! You learn about the victorian era in P4!
This girl needs to stfu, watch trudors and make me another sammich cause I dropped mine when I read she was English!

She deleted that post as well as a lot of pictures of lolitas off of her blog. Delicious!

>>4819276

From various wiki pages:

On the Jeans subject: the contemporary use of jean comes from the French word for Genoa, Italy (Gênes), where the first denim trousers were made.

Hats: The concept of a broad-brimmed hat with a high crown worn by a rider on horseback can be seen as far back as the Mongolian horsemen of the 13th century.

Boots: Riding boots had been a part of equestrian life for centuries. Until the industrial age, boots were individually handmade in many different styles, depending on culture. Early cowboy boot designs, along with other cowboy accoutrements, were also heavily influenced by the vaquero tradition imported from Spain to the Americas, dating back to the early 16th century. Military boots designed for cavalry riders also had an influence.

None of those things are original USA Design in the least.

>>4819656

OP here. I feel a bit proud.

>>4819002
My friend is black and getting interested in Lolita. She looks great in pastel yellows and greens so I'm going to live vicariously though her since I love those colors but they wash me the fuck out. D:

"I’m sorry to all that I offended with my Lolita post.

I didn’t mean for my post to sound the way it did. I don’t think that it’s “wrong” for Western girls to dress Lolita style, and I also know that it’s heavily influenced by Victorian style, what I meant to say was that I just prefer to reblog pictures of Lolita girls if they are Asian.

I know that the majority of people who I offended were in fact Western lolitas, and I want to say that most Western lolitas can pull it off, I was only stating that in my opinion, it can look try hard on Western girls, especially when they try to look and sound Asian without knowing any Asian languages or anything else about the countries.

Kudos to those of you Western Lolitas who DO know some of the languages and DO know a lot more about the culture, I was just saying that there are A LOT of Western girls who dress Lolita simply because they use it as an accessory to make them look cooler or more unique, and they don’t actually learn anything along the way.

Okay? I’m glad that’s sorted. A lot of you judged me before even asking me to expand, and to those of you who called me “racist against white people” that’s not it at all. Please, in the future, don’t be so narrow minded and re-read the post a couple times, yeah?"

=_=

>>4819729
yeeeeeeeeeeee mmmmuufffffffffiiiiiiiinnnnnssssssssssss

>>4820598
What a dumbass. There is so much wrong with this post i can't even. Oh well, i thought i knew everything when i was 17, too.

>>4820598
What if they wear lolita just because they like it? I don't think knowing all about feudal Japan and how to write 1000 kanji and how to make dashi is a prerequisite to wearing some fucking clothes.

>>4820598
she just keeps digging her hole, doesn't she?

ahahaha, I just hope I wasn't as stupid as her when I was 17...

lol her responses to logic are so sad

I wasn't aware that you had to learn a foreign language to be part of a fashion.


Someone should let the Japanese gals know they need to learn English. Oh, and since Lolita is based on Rococo/Victorian Era clothing, someone should let them know to learn English and French

omg, now there's a whiteknighting party on her tumblr XD

I like when people use the 'Hiding behind being Anonymous' thing in situations like this. Would my name make me any more known to you? Would you know if it is my real name? My opinion and word pattern are the closest thing to an identity that you can get. You want me to make a dating profile for you? Send you a trading card? lolwat

However both sides are getting a little silly about that comment. The things that should have been said have already been said a while ago.

Hey, only if it makes every Asian that dresses lolita a white girl wannabe since it's influenced by Europe and all.

Isn't the whole point of lolita pretending to be kawaii european aristocrats circa high renaissance onwards?

I know lots of people claim that weeabooism isn't necessarily part and parcel of being into Japanese subculture. But this is a good example of why you shouldn't become too obsessed with the stuff in my opinion, you just end up with these aimless, self-loathing morons like kittijapan whose ultimate aim in life is to find a nihonian bishie boy to have kawaii mornings with.

It's pitiful.

White and proud.

AM I LOLITA ENOUGH?

>>4821142
that is ridiculously awesome.

>>4818701
Link to their /cgl/?

>>4821159

is it wrong that I find it ridiculously funny when people make a slew of self pitying posts on their blogs/twitters/etc? like "oh I'm so sad... I'm so sad now..." "please leave... yyou winnn..."

how about posting her BS on getoffegl.livejournal.com/ ? has anyone screencaped her comments ?

you can't ask her anon anymore :/ but whatev, will always remember her for beeing a dumbass bitch. Bye~

I like how the writer assumed that all Asians can understand Japanese.

>>4818665
YOU FORGOT MACARONS!

>>4821571
I wrote her a comment about that and not using blank Asian when you mean Japanese or just East Asians and she just ignored it. Maybe I didn't send it properly or whatever..

>>4819066
>Who cares

You, obviously.

>>4821601
I would love to just be able to read the post and comments there, but unfortunately, it's beleeted.

>>4821624
Oh, it wasn't on the post, I sent it through the ask me anything thingy when anon commenting was on.

>Japan's face when

>>4821649
Her face always scares the fuck out of me.

>>4819267
Sis, I don't know what you're talking about.
There aren't any fucking farms a half-hour away from Toronto. We aren't fucking hicks.
>I mad