Who told you Kaito's name was pronounced "K-toe"? I pronouce it Kai-toe.
I also say Ciel as either "Seal" or "See-el".

If it was pronounced "K-toe," it would be spelled Keito. Since it's spelled "Kaito," it IS pronounced "Ky-toe."

And yeah sometimes I get confused with how the hell I'm supposed to pronounce "Nice Holystone" from Baccano. On the one hand, I'm inclined to say "Nice cosplay!" but on the other hand, they pronounce it "Neece" in the anime (original Japanese, never watched the dub).

Everyone i know pronounces Inuyasha with a D. i dont even like that show and it still pisses me off.

>In-DU-yasha

>>4807429
I pronounce Ciel like that too.
I can pronounce Suzumiya but i always feel silly after saying it.

alois. fucking alois, man.

i also pronounce pokemon names wrong aaaall the time and end up embarassing myself, because i read them in my head quickly and it just sticks, i never end up noticing im wrong.

>>4807446

i do the same thing, i just mutter it quietly and hope no one notices

>>4807437
In the dub they say "Neece" as well.
>> 4807446
I say Alois the way it's spelled.

>>4807446
My cousin calls Salamence 'Slam-mence'. I can't help but find it pretty damn cute.

Their last name is fucking crazy and I love it.

Seme and uke.

Nejima
Barefoot Jen

Gs and Js are hard.

When I was real new to anime/manga, I thought "Sasuke" is "sa-su-ke". I learned soon after "u" before "k-" is kinda silenced.

As a kid I pronounced Caith Sith's name "Kayt-Sith" rather than "Ket-Shee".

Until the game came out in the US, I pronounced Kainé's name from NieR "Kayne" instead of "Kai-Neh".

And then there was the whole FFX for Tidus's "Tai-dus" versus "Tee-dus" thing. I usually said Tee-dus, which is good because I learned his and Yuna's named have opposite meanings in Okinawan or something like that, so Tee-dus is the right pronunciation.

I pronounce character names wrong all the time, ahaha.

Though for the Apollo Justice games- is Klavier/Kristoph Gavin "Gah-Vin" or "Gay-vin"? I still don't know.

>>4807465
i always say gah-vin. its "klavier" i have trouble with fffff

>>4807468
Yeah, same for me, haa. Klavier for me is "Clah-vee-air".

>>4807463
fuck, me too. "sas-ook", i was blown away when someone told me it was "sas-kay"

i always used to called kikiyou "keek-you" instead of "kee kee yoh" ugh

>>4807465
I always say their last name GAH-VIN. I never thought of pronouncing it like GAY-VIN. Lol.

>>4807471
I used to pronounce it like that until I took German and my teacher said it's pronounced KLA-VEER.

I usually defer to the original Japanese pronunciation because I figure they know what they're talking about. If I can't hear the name being spoken for some reason, I try to find a kana rendering of the name because that will always tell you the correct pronunciation.

It gets tricky when you have character names with interchangeable letters or sounds (L and R, B and V, anything with a TH in it). Sometimes it's pretty obvious that it's a Japanese transliteration of a non-Japanese word though. People who insist on saying "Ririsu" instead of "Lillith" or "Raito" instead of "Light" annoy me.

The katakana for Ciel is シエル, so it's pronounced "Shi-eh-ru", but it's a fairly obvious transliteration of the French word, so it should be pronounced "See-ell".

I remember trying to pronounce Byakuya once upon a time. Not necessarily one people screw its just hard to say sometimes.

I would love to know how the Code Geass character's name got rendered as "C.C." but pronounced as "sheets".

To this day I can't pronounce kigurumi.

In the dub of Vampire Knight, Kaname is pronounced as Kah-nuh-meh. Which is hilarious.

The only character that comes to mind is Marluxia from the Kingdom Hearts series. Before Re: CoM I always pronounced his name as "Mar-LUCKS-e-ya". I was pretty mind-blown when I heard his name was pronounced as "Mar-loo-sha".

I'm fairly certain I'm pronouncing Kagamine wrong.
I always ignore the 'e' on the end.

Alois's name drives me crazy, but I don't know what it's based off of (ie. Ciel is a French word) so I can't judge if the anime is doing it right.

Not a character, but I can't for the life of me pronounce Geass right.

I always pronounced Suigintou as "su-geen-to", but apparently I was forgetting the first 'i'. So the Rozen Maiden dub tripped me out.

>>4807441
or in-yu-wa-sha

I have a horrible accent and tend to fuck up everyone's names. For example, recently I was talking to someone about "Err-shul Lay-toh" instead of Hershel Layton and they got very confused.

Silent Hill is always a fun conversation, the protagonists of the first three games are "Heh-ee Mah-soh", "James Soonderlahn", and "Ezz-air Mah-soh".

>>4807488
pretty sure its "kah-gah-mee-neh"

as for alois, i.. just dont say his name in fear of getting it wrong. he's "that new blonde kid"

>>4807483
They pronounce it "C2"but native Japanese speakers have trouble saying "Two".

>>4807496
I believe it's pronounced like ah-loh-ees. My French isn't that great, though.

I am so fucking confused on the pronunciation of "Mayuri".

In the original Japanese, to my English ass ears it sounds like "My-yuri." Nemu even seems to shorten it to just "My-ree".

Then all of a sudden a Japanese friend tells me it's May-yuri, like the month, and I'm flabbergasted as that doesn't sound like what they are saying in the show whatsoever, and now I'm having to correct myself...

I thought Ginny Weasley's name was Ginerva for like a fucking decade

>>4807507
Yeah, I know quite a lot of French, so I want to say it's, "Al-wah."
But again, the anime......

>>4807465
Speaking of FF7, are you familiar with the theory about how Aerith/Aeris got her name?

As the story goes, it's the result of poor transliteration of the English word "Earth." That was to be her name, to contrast with the main character "Cloud" as well as to signify her spiritual connection to the planet. But when someone attempted to shoehorn the word "earth" into katakana they came up with エアリス, or "eh-ah-ri-su." Without knowing what the word is actually supposed to be, it just comes out sounding like "Aeris."

I have no idea if this is true (in fact I'm fairly sure it isn't) but still think it's an interesting idea.

>>4807509
>>4807509
I think it should be "mah-you-ree"... but definitely not "may"...

>>4807521
If that's true, I am mind-blown.

Ka-MOO-i instead of KAH-mu-i for Kamui.

This was before I studied more Japanese.

>>4807521
Guess they couldn't recycle Terra either

>>4807487
I never played that far into the game so I always thought it was marLUXia as well..
marloosha sounds stupid anyway

>>4807509
...Your Japanese friend is trolling you. You'd believe that bull over what you heard in the show with your own ears?

Jesus fuck is it Nah-boh-ru or Nah-boo-ru?!

I'm playing Professor Layton and the Curious Village right now and some of the names are throwing me for a fucking loop.

Such as: Giuseppe, Prosciutto, Deke

ughhh!

>>4807438
I don't even know how people MAKE THAT MISTAKE D:<

Our my favorite

In-oo-washa or inyou-'asha

ITS SPELLED A WAY FOR A REASON!

NU-ROO-DO
I never pronounced it that way but goddamnit everyone else does..

Or the way my grandmother says it
NAh-Rood-Toe

>>4807571
That reminds me of me when I first got into Kuroshitsuji.
I kept pronouncing it "cure-oh-shit-soojee".
No idea why.

>>4807565
Guiseppe and Prosciutto at least are easy. Google pronunciations for them; you'll find audio most likely, as one is a real name and the other is a sort of meat.

>>4807423
Always thought Evangelion was "Ee-van-ja-LEE-on" but I heard a guy say "Ee-van-GEL-iun" and I was confused XD

>>4807595
Is it pronounced 'Kooroh-shee'-tsoojee? that's just how I pronounce it but I'm not sure as I don't hear it said often strange enough.

oh! i thought of another!

i cant bring myself to pronounce godot right. it SHOULD be goh-doh, but... i say go-dot anyway. goh-doh just sounds too werid to me

>>4807623
I think so.
I just kept throwing a 'y'-sound in there for the oddest of reasons.

>>4807620
Well, Evangelion is a real word and his pronunciation was more accurate. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evangelion

. . .
I.. I seriously can't think of when this has ever happened to me.
Which is funny, because I'm such a derp.
I dunno, I've just always been pretty good at wingin' pronunciations, I guess.

The only one I can think of is Seccom, but that was because someone was fucking with me. I said it right the first time, and then some bitch told me "No it's really 'SEH-kuh-kohm'!" (basically pronounce the two c's separately) so I sounded like an idiot for about a month before I set myself straight again.

>>4807620
I've always heard it as the second way though I always thought it was "Ee-van-jelin"
isn't "ee-van'gel'ien" the correct way??

I did this but with an entire series. A friend of mine online was big into Code Geass when it first came out and since I never had never heard the name being said, only typed, I thought for months that it was "Code Gay-ass" and even said it like that.

>>4807500
Mystery solved. That makes sense. Thank you, kind anon!

I... I don't understand.

Japanese pronounciation for most words is fairly simple once you have to basics down. It's pronounced EXACTLY as it's spelled. No flourishes. No silent consonants (besides 'tsu').

Sure, the Japanese "r" is a little tricky at first, and it's easy to say "do" instead of "to". "Ryu" and the like are hard for the tongue.. But.. otherwise. Romanji is a VERY straight forward.

"Kaito". Three syllables. Ka, i, to. Said together it would sound like Kai-to.

Maybe it's easier if you can see how the Japanese set up their syllables? Pic related. It's all the syllables. That's all of them. (I believe, I could be wrong.)

Video for auditory learners.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zxuy6eojZY&feature=related
Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctBEpPUdghg
If you need it slower

Alot of people still say K-on as they read it, while it's keion

Pic related. No OP, don't worry, doesn't apply.

>>4807701
Isn't it the same, though?
I thought the title was a pun.

Please note that not all English speaks pronounce words the same.

Ever grab a Japanese language book, look in the front for kicks and to see if they say "tomodachi" or "tomodati" and think "Wait.. are they retarded? Even I know that syllable doesn't sound similar to anything in that word!" then realize "oh, this book is from Australia"?
I know I have.

>>4807707
Slightly different. K-ON would be pronounced more like the english word "on" while the Japanese is more like the english word "own". Also "kei" and the english "K" are slightly different.

>>4807483
Shee-tsu, actually. It's for "C2". Because there are two Cs.

I know, it's retarded.

>>4807456
>seme and uke

Oh my god this. I still pronounce it "semi" and "yuki" in my head. "oo-keh" sounds so retarded.

>>4807712
I pretty much go by the way they say it.. In the opening sequences..

Just saying, if you're pronouncing 'Ciel' it's 'see-el' and 'Alois' would be 'Al-oh-wee'. They're both French, or so my mother just told me. I hope that helps~

>>4807712
Ah, I see.
Thanks for clearing that up.

>4807717
I have a friend who never pronounces it right.
I've said both of them correctly around her, but I don't know if she just dismissed it or what.
"Seem" and "ook". Nooooo....

It's pretty easy to learn the phonetics of Japanese, then most of these problems can be avoided.

But how many people can pronounce "Ryu"? No, it is not Ri-yu or Rai-yu, but would be similar to pronouncing Kyu.

>>4807719
Shouldn't it be 'Al-wa'?

Also, while we're on the subject of correct pronunciation, I have a couple questions for you seagulls. How do you correctly pronounce "Maguma"? And I've always said "Mika" with a Japanese pronunciation, making it "Mee-ka" but a friend of mine says it "My-ka". Which one is right? As for Hobbes' name, is the "o" always meant to be short? I've heard it with a long "o" as well, but is that only used when making fun of him?

>>4807743
Well, I don't believe so, but I could be wrong. The reason I brought my mother up was because she grew up and is fluent in French and she pronounced it "Al-oh-wee" when I asked.

>>4807733
Oh god, "Ryu" and "Ryo" and the like were such a struggle for me for such a long time, haha. I still have trouble when saying it in the middle of a word sometimes.

>>4807744
Mah-goo-mah
Mee-kah
And I'm assuming a long 'o' would be appropriate.

>>4807751
Thank you!!

>>4807744
It's "My-ka", it's a feminine play on his name, Mike.

Also TL;DR, I didn't know that!

>>4807756
Whoops, I meant for >>4807521 to be linked as well.

>>4807756
Oh, after hearing about him, that makes more sense, haha

>>4807750
Alois is a variant spelling of Aloys (and short form of Aloysius), so despite being a name that has its origins in Old French I've only ever seen it used and pronounced in the German way - which is something like aaLOYS. Meaning no French pronunciation, so I don't care if your mother speaks French or what not.

Mines not pronunciation, but just swapping names for more familiar ones. Arika and Akira. I'm not dyslexic or anything, but just spot-reading, I always assume Akira.

Also, took me way to long to realize its not Battleship Yamamoto.

>>4807744
And what's the deal with that fourengthirtyone faggot?

>>4807477
I pronounced "Kla–feer" for the longest time until a german teacher told me it was a very outdated to pronounce it that way, and no one does it modern day.

and there's the ever going debate for guh–do vs. gah–do. I personally still pronounce it the latter way, even if it's not typical in the US, I read an interview that Samuel Beckett said that's the way you're supposed to pronounce it like..on his death bed. So I sorta kept it with me.

It also drove me nuts at my Madoka panel that we couldn't pronounce things consistently. Like, I talked to them about it before hand, but we still had some people saying "Mah–do–ka" and others "Ma–doe–ka". Drove me nuts.

>>4807776
Ah, I see! Then that makes sense, thank you for clearing that up, haha

Ciel - Shi-elle. (Not "ell", but with an Italian flair like "Isabelle".)
The first syllable is a cross between 'c' and 'shi'. Ciel is purposely an English name, so I can expect the Japanese to try and pronounce it as close as possible.

Kaito - Kai-toe
The 't' is a cross between 't' and 'd'. Why anyone would pronounce it "Kei-toe" is beyond me-- it has the "ai" sound romanized right there.

>>4807800

No problem at all, and sorry I might have sounded a bit snippy at the end there! This language geek who has far too much time on her hands and a much too large interest in names doesn't know what to do with herself when this kind of threads come up. (Beside facepalming at some of the pronounciations. Seriously.)

What the hell people? The katakana for Evangelion is エヴァンゲリオン

エ = e (as in lens)
ヴァ = va (as in vavawoom)
ン = n
ゲ = ge (as in guess)
リ = ri/li (as in lithium)
オ = o
ン = n

>>4807847
E-van-gel-e-on? That's the way I've been saying it. And not 'gel' and in 'gel pens'. Gell as in... 'grell' without the r.

For me it's See-el and Al-o-is. My friend is fluently french and says "Al-o-is". Eh.

In Pokemon, I say "hap-in-ee" instead of Ha-peen-ee", "Hy-dre-g/jin" (or 'dray', depending) instead of "high-dragon" and "Brell-oon" instead of 'bray-loom'

>>4807869
Err. Brell-oom. With an m.

I will never not feel like a moron when I cosplay her and have to pronounce her name Eh-ooh-reh-kuh to people who ask me who I'm cosplaying. :|

>>4807756
>themoreyouknow.gif

>>4807847
To whom are you referring? I thought the pronunciation was already cleared up. However:

>va (as in vavawoom)
I lol'd

I still pronouce 'yaoi' wrong

For some reason I originally read it as "yow" ignoring the i completely.

I still want to say "yow" every time. It feels unnatural to me to say "yow-ee" .. is that even the right way to pronounce it?

Moi-Meme-Moitie.

>>4807889
YES THIS!
How the hell do you pronounce that?
It's french right?

>>4807889

Oh god.

>>4807889
>>4807889
moy-meem-moy-tee is how I pronounce it but I know that's wrong lol. What's the correct way? "moi" is pronounced "mwah" right? That's about as far as I get lol.

I had a roomate that pronounced " ramen" as "ray-men." All of my rage.

>pay attention in primary school
>learn pronunciation rules at an early age
>never mispronounce anything again

>>4807889

mwah- mehm- mwah tee ay

>>4807889

I pronounce it as "Mwa M'em Mwa-teh".
(AmIwrong?)

>>4807903
I say "ra-myun"... but that's because that's how my Korean dad always said it.

>>4807901
lol I pronounce it like that in my head too!

>>4807874
In a highschool japanese class, a guy used Eureka 7 as an example in a presentation. This conversation followed.

>Eehoorehkah 7
You mean, Eureka 7.
>That's not how it's pronoucned in the show
But it's what the meant.
>I pronounce it the accurate way
But it sounds retarded.

He didn't really know what to say to that. I'm sorry for being a hater, kid in highschool, but it really does sound silly.

>>4807905
>implying we aren't talking about primarily non-English words in this thread

>ahh-beh-no-bah-shi
Probably not how it's supposed to say, but oh well.

also
I say "ana-may" sometimes
just for ironic purposes

>>4807565
Giuseppe = Juh-sepp-ay.
Prosciutto = Pros-shoot-o
Deke = Deek.

>>4807909
Rah-myun is the correct Korean pronunciation. Rah-men is the correct Japanese pronunciation.

>>4807918
>I say "ana-may" sometimes
just for ironic purposes

Really? Everyone I know pronounces it as ana-may in normal conversation. I'm not sure that one counts, cause its pretty much been adopted into the English language at this point.

I don't have a problem with Japanese names because Japanese has simple pronunciation rules so it's not as difficult as English.

But it did take me forever to realize they pronounce Jacuzzi Splot "Ja-ku-ji"

>>4807935
Damn, I didn't think other people did it.
Thought everyone pronounced it "ana-me"

>>4807744
The pronunciation >>4807751 has is correct but remember the accent is at the front so it's MAH-goo-ma, not mah-GOO-mah. It's still a Japanese pronunciation

>>4807455
in the dub, Ryou mispronounces HER OWN NAME. god it peeves me. she calls herself "Roh Fujibashi".

>>4807935
How are you supposed to pronounce it? Ah-nah-may? I've always said ana (or an-ih)may

>>4807875
Everybody used ee (as in bee or see) to describe the first vocal sound.

For a while, i called Yu Yu Hakusho Yu Yu Hashuko. And I said Yusuke like "yu-su-ki". this was before i found out that Japanese word pronunciation is really easy and there's only one sound for each vowel so there's no excuse to pronouncing any japanese word wrong if you know the basic rules.

>>4807949
Most Japanese pronounce it Ah-nee-may. At least through what I've seen from directors, relatives, etc.

So is it Anna or On for anime?

Think about the way you pronounce "animation". Then just say the first three syllables. It's not hard.

>>4807973
Ahn.

>>4807973
Okay, official Japanese pronunciation for the word 'anime'.
ahh nee meh.
now you have to shorten each syllable. no drawn-out "ahhh", "neee" or "may"...the last one is prononced like "may" but halfway so it comes out like a short "meh".

a ni me.

that's how the japanese would pronounce it. in an american dialect it's a totally different story.

i know this is only vaguely related but
i have SUCH a hard time pronouncing "nobuo uematsu" unless I do it really slowly. it's just a fucking tongue twister.

>>4807917

>Implying that Japanese pronunciation is more complicated than English pronunciation

>>4807957
It's animeh with a silent h. The problem is that English speakers for some reason settled on animei, so you're probably conditioned to hear that "mei/may" at the end.

When I was like 11 I had the weirdest idea of how Sakura was pronounced. Say-KOO-ruh, I think. Thankfully, that got fixed quickly.

>>4808012
We pronounce it correctly. The Japanese pronounce the butchered English word wrong.

I always feel like I'm being judged when I'm pronouncing anything in another language correctly. People seem to think it's pretentious. Kills me just a little inside every time...

In Gurren Lagann, I want to call the characters Simon like "sai-mon" and Viral like "vai-ruhl"....like the way you would say them in English.

but the Japanese butchered it and now everyone goes by their pronunciation and says See-mohn and Vee-rahl. Makes me rage a little bit.

>>4808029
>>4808029
Anime isn't an English word dumbass.
It's a wasei-eigo. The English word is animation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gairaigo_and_wasei-eigo_terms

>>4808049
Well that's just silly because those ARE English names, and if you don't have a Japanese accent there's no reason to pronounce it like that.
Feel proud and say it right, anon!

>>4807880
No. "Yaoi" should be pronounced Yah-oy. Unfortunately, "Yowie" has become so prevalent now that I think it's beyond changing. Like the mangling of "Karaoke".

>>4807512
That's crazy, lol. But I remember an early interview with JK Rowling where she was chuckling about the fact a young fan thought "Hermione" was "hermy-1".

>>4807423
Kaito is not Keito. However, this switch happens sometimes with Chinese. And in Avatar, where "Mai" is pronounced "Mei". BTW the American habit of turning a T into a D never crosses into Japanese.

>>4807509
"Mayuri" is the same deal as "Sasuke". The "-u" morae gets under-stressed and almost merges into the next sound (but not quite). Compare "desu".

The words I hear twisted a lot - other than yaoi - are simply "manga" and "anime". "Monga" and "Ehh-nimay"

Ciel from Kuroshitsuji and Simon from Gurren Lagann both have the issue of there not being a "si" in Japanese (though sometimes you get SUi as substitute). In English neither start with a "sh" sound. Btw yeah, Simon in GL is pronounced "Shimon", so where "seemohn" would come from I don't know.

>>4808075
the japanese don't say yah-oi. it's ya - oh - ee, so say it fast and it does indeed sound like yowie. observe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNOV9zpJN5o

>>4808053
No one said it was an English word. What you just linked was obviously what the other poster meant. Its a word derived and adopted from English.

>>4808049
>>4808065
Shim'on is an old Hebrew name that the English butchered into sounding like "saimon". The Japanese "shimon" is much closer to the Hebrew pronounciation. Quite often the Japanese don't borrow words from English when the English word itself is a loanword from elsewhere. Instead the Japanese try to pronounce it as in the original language.

>>4807719

Shit, I've been pronouncing it "Uh-LOY-iss" this whole time.
Also, anime = animation. I thought that was fucking obvious.

Not anime, but there were some LoL characters whose names I intentionally mispronounced. The most noticeable were Urgot, which I pronounced "Er-go" and Janna, which I pronounced "Yah-nah".

Other than that there is probably plenty of stuff from Gundam I've mispronounced. It is easy to mispronounce something like Kshatriya if you've never heard it before.

I once had a friend who insisted that Tsubasa was pronouned, Two-basa. She thought the S was silent, when it's more the T that's silent.

>>4808089
No, it's not like "yowie" at all. That voice actress's lips definitely didn't move together to make the w sound. Maybe I'm not being clear about what "yah" should sound like. I just can't put "ya" because then it might be read "yar".

>>4808136
You...seriously believe that? When they also say "shi" for the letter C and pronounce "silver" as "shiruba"?

>>4808089
That sounds like ya-o-wee

>>4808163
I can sorta see why she would think that. There are a number of competing systems for romanizing Japanese writing. One of them uses tu to represent the tsu sound.

>>4808171
it's more that you put "oi" as if it's one sound. You have to stress that it's a dipthong and there are two sounds in it, and if anything the stress is on the "i".

>>4808184
Yeah, I ended up explaining to her that it was pronounced like Tsukiyomi or Tsukasa.

She probably didn't listen anyway since she was such a dense idiot. She'd actually argue with people about the way to pronounce Saiyuki. Even to people who obviously spoke fluent Japanese.

>>4808194
Ah, makes sense.

>>4807479 I just pronounce it like it's supposed to be in French. I can't learn all these different pronunciations for one word. Depending on your native language and dialect foreign words aren't always going to be 100% correctly pronounced anyway. I try my best but there are just some things I cannot say correctly.

I have this L/R and B/V problem too and occasionally W/V trips me up and I'm a native English speaker from the U.S. I sometimes call Cloud from FF7 "Croud". It just comes out that way and I can't help it. I'm always afraid people will think I'm intentionally doing it and am a weeb. I also have a slight lisp which doesn't help.

I always got Nei from Phantasy Star 2 wrong as a child. I thought it was Nee. It's Nay apparently.

In Ocarina of Time I misread skulltula and "skulltana" once and for years I said "skulltana" instead.

I read Phanpy as Phanphy for like a decade.

>>4807479
I pronounce Ciel the French way too, but that is mainly because it's one of the languages I speak.

It always confuses me when I am cosplaying and people say "Seal" and all I can think of is "Mamegoma? BABY SEAL? WHERE? I WANT TO SEE!"

Thing about Ciel is that he's from England. And most French names that make it into England don't stay the same at all. Witness "Guy" or "Aimee".

when I was very young I didn't know about the silent u and i
so sasuke and nadeshiko where names where I had trouble.
other than that I'm from Germany and our pronunciation is very similar to the Japanese one.

I pronounced 'Suicune' 'soo-ee-seen' until I saw Pokemon 4Ever
It's 'Swee-coo.ne' apparantly

>>4807463
The technical term for this is "vowel devoicing". Girly-girls will sometimes avoid devoicing, which is why Suiseiseki says "de・su" instead of "de・ss".

>>4807491
This. This. This. This. This.
Allofmyhate.jpg

For years and years I was saying 'gi-rah-fig' instead of 'gi-rah-fah-rig', I don't know how I managed to miss that syllable all this time, but I only realised it around last year.

my brother and i mispronounced everything in final fantasy 7. i especially remember saying "shin-er-a". and "yuffie" was pronounced like "yuppie" with f instead of p.

>>4807488
since almost all vocaloids have names ending in "ne", they nearly all get mispronounced with a silent 'e'. like Megurine Luka, Honne Dell, and particularly the Kagamine twins. but you do indeed want to pronounce the 'e'.

Kirara as 'ki-ra-ra'.

When I took French, we pronounced the word "ciel" (the French word for sky, if you didn't know) like they do in the dub. So Cee-elle.

Di Gi Charat. for a long time i thought it was "shar-at". but it's more like carrot.

people do the same thing with shugo chara, overemphasizing the "ch" sound when it's just a hard C. but what annoys me in japanese is words where they transliterate C sounds with a "kya" like "kyaado" for "card" or "kyandi" for candy. there's no fucking kya, damn it.

>>4808615
That's how it's supposed to be pronounced.
Japanese has issues translating that over, so in the subs it comes out as "sheel" or "sheeru"
But English speakers who call him "Seel" are the ones at fault.

>>4808608
I know, it's a yucky habit I need to break.
I have Hatsune down, working on Kagamine, and I have a feeling Megurine will be a lost cause for me.
I have to call them strictly by their first names.

>>4808628
What are you basing that on?

A little English boy whose parents named him "Ciel" probably would call himself "Seel" rather than "See-EL"

>>4808865
The fact that his name is French.
If Ciel was a common English name derived from French, then "Seel" would be fine. But it's not. So I still stand by that it's pronounced "See-el."
And it's also not uncommon for people to name their children something from another language.

>>4808885
True, and then pronounce them in a localized way.

Like as a previous anon said, the name Aimee. They get called Amy, not Ammay.

>>4808959
... which is irrelevant since the Japanese pronounce it as a Japanised version of the French word.

>>4808037

"Ka-rah-oh-keh"

LOL WUT?
Every time.

This is getting horribly overanalysed.

The author was Japanese.

He knew fuck all about English names.

The kid's surname is Phantomhive ffs.

He shouldn't even be called Earl Phantomhive, he should be called [name of his Earldom] or have his name suffixed by "Earl of [Earldom]".

Ciel isn't even a French name; it's not a common name at all.

Apparently there HAVE been male Ciels in America (there's some record of a male Ciel Jordan born in the early 20th c and I betcha he didn't say it with a French accent) but...argh, now I'M overanalysing.

In my eyes, Sheeru, Seel and See-el are all fine.

>>4808988
Based on what? Shieru as opposed to Shiiru? 'Ciel' would be a dipthong as the English say it too, it's more a difference of emphasis. Or would you say it should be 'Shiaru' if it were the English version?

>>4809022
They call the singer Seal "shiiru".

French way to say it is more correct.

But you're gonna sound like a dick talking about See-EL when you're talking English.

>>4809007
Not to mention a noble family running a toy and confectionery business. English landed nobles, in trade? During the Victorian era? And personally running the business at that? I think not.

>>4809051
English nobles were known for their eccentricities.

As far as Touhou goes, I always mispronounce Keine and Reisen's names. Since I learned German I can't help it. It sounds cooler to me anyway.

Keine is supposed to be Kay-neh, but I say Kai-nah.

Reisen is supposed to be Ray-sen, but I say Rai-zen.

>>4809007
I always thought he was named after the color 'ciel' because of his eyes and hair. Even though it's not the same shade as 'ciel'.

>>4809061
There's eccentricity, then there's doing things that would be complete social suicide.

Find me a Victorian Earl who ran a middle-class business and I'll eat my top hat.

my mom and grandmom would say Poke-kay-manz for the longest time

>>4809080
Well you don't see them actually taking part in the manual labour or anything. It's probably like Rockingham Pottery, where the nobles paid for the business to run and used their connections to make it more popular.

But remember this is a series with Victorian cellphones and chainsaws. It's never pretended to be super accurate or well researched

I have a friend who thought seme and uke were seem and ook.

>>4809080
Well, it's not like Kuroshit is accurate or anything. I'm not sure why Yana wrote half the things she did. Maybe she thought the Victorian Era wasn't interesting enough? I mean, look what she did to the Queen.

>>4809108
>seem and ook
That made me laugh so hard when I read that out loud.

I've always not been too sure how Chibi is pronounced.

Is it 'chibee' or 'cheebee'?

>>4809127
Well, hard to know what your vowel sounds are from that. It should be the same vowel sound twice though.

>>4809127
cheebee, but you don't hold the sounds too long (cheeeeebee) to sound like an idiot.
vowels are always pronounced the same in Japanese.

>>4809139
I did 'ee' to emphasize the sound. I know it's not super long. But thanks for clearing it up.

>>4807880
Its yioi, I think.
Umm something like this: http://translate.google.com.mx/?hl=es&tab=wT#es|gl|yaoi

>>4807521
"Aerith" was plastered all over the early promo items in Japan. It's supposed to (almost) be an anagram of "Earth."

You'd never get a リ sound when writing "earth" in kana.

If I don't understand how to say a word, I say it with french pronunciation, since the Elevens fucking love the French.

Eruka from Radiant Historia. I spent the whole game calling her Erica.

Also, I cosplay Franziska Von Karma and it's amazing how many people come up to me and say "hey Fran-chess-ka!" It's gotten to the point where I'm starting to wonder if that's how her name is actually pronounced.

>>4808049
SHE-MON will always drive me bonkers. Why couldn't they just say SAI-MON.

Fucking Simon. Fucking Viral.

Eureka -> eh-oo-reh-kah

wat

>>4810226
Every time I heard that I lol'd.

Cirno = Chi-lu-no

it always gets me, I keep thinking it's said the way it's spelt/ Sur-no

and fucking english dub for Tsubasa

Kurogane > Koo-ROW-ga-ni

the fuck is that?

>>4810276
Chill-no

Get it now?

how do you pronounce Beatrice from umineko?

>>4810534
http://inogolo.com/pronunciation/Beatrice

I tend to be fine with Japanese names as the pronunciation is pretty consistent. I say English (and other) words wrong all the time though.

I do remember saying 'her-mee-oh-nee' for Hermione before the movies came out. And I always thought shugo chara was pronounced as spelt, but apparently its 'carrah' as in the English 'character'. I also can't help pronouncing 'Gurren Lagann' wrong, I keep saying 'guh-ren' instead of 'goor-en'.

>>4807620
I do this too. It's supposed to be with a hard 'g' but I feel like a retard saying it that way.

It's not anime or character related, but I pronounced lolita 'loli-tah' for years, but I think everyone else says 'luh-LEE-tuh', whoops.
Also, is the last 'e' in 'Metamorphose' voiced? I didn't think it was but they call it 'metamorufōze' in Japanese.

>>4810534
UUUOOOO BEATORIIIIIITCHE

>>4810660
You just made me ruin my keyboard! There's milk everywhere now....

Tidus. And KH made it worse by using both pronunciations. I just use Tai-dus because Tee-das sounds dumb.

Other than that: my main issue with Japanese names and terms is stress. I use English patterns. For example: mah-DOH-kah instead of mah-doh-kah.

>>4810660
SAKURIFAIS TO GAWD

>>4810660
Reminds me of the time I was watching Umineko and my boyfriend walked into the room just as Kinzo was screaming "BIOTURICHEEE!" He imediately did a 180 and left the room.

>>4810704
SACRIFICE SHEEP TO GAWD

I can't believe the old hag's useless furniture can't even get that right.

oh shit! I forgot the sheep! Typing from my iPod and I tend to fuck up on it alot lol

>>4807512
..It's not?

On topic: Fucking ASOIAF names, man. I'm fairly certain I'm pronouncing them ALL wrong since my interpretations that are based off the way they are transliterated in my language, but also affected by the English spelling. So I have a reason to think that both my country's fans and English-speaking fans would side-eye the hell out of me. But I don't want to switch to the "official" pronounciation and am not going to.

>>4810720
Why didn't you slice off your cow tits and make him a sandwich?

>>4810765
I make him sammiches all the time you crazy mofo!

>>4810760
It's Ginevra.

>>4810808
There's a local street that I do the same thing with. It's some First Nations word, but it has "yuki" in it so my mind defaults to Japanese pronunciation.

>>4810148
Because it sounds stupid to everyone but you, English-speakers. She-mon sounds nice in Japanese and a fuckton of other languages. English version of Simon and Saimon are ugly names.

>>4808389
Oh...

Oh fuck. I've always said soo-ih-soon.

>>4808049
Are you from the South?

I say it (see-moan) and (vee-rull)

>>4810833
lol reminds me of when I learned "yuki" was also a dudes name. This was before I knew the difference between ＂ゆうき＂and ＂ゆき"

I pronounced studio Ghibli as "studio GILL-BEE" for the longest time because I guess I had a tinge of dyslexia when I was 10 or something and never bothered to really look at the word right. It was only a few months ago that I realized this mistake (I am 20). I even said it so naturally that my friends started to pronounce it that way.

What the fuck I feel so stupid. I'm not dyslexic, whatsoever, just dumb as hell. Bahaha

>>4807477

it's actually KLA-VEE-A

Tiff-uh? Or Tee-fuh? Got shit for saying tiff-uh at a con because it's not Japanese pronunciation.

>Friend convinces me to watch Geass with her
>"Wow, Le-lowch looks kinds fruity."
>Her face when

Also McGonagall was 'McGoogle' for a long time.

>>4810148
I want to say is Sai-mon.
Japanese say is She-mon.
English sounds like See-mohn.

I do Gurren Lagann panels and have no good answer for it. Plus I end up flipping between She-mon and See-mohn throughout the panel.

My friends and I say "lay-lowch" just because it's annoying as fuck. I love seeing the looks on cosplayer's faces.

>>4810914

Are you Lay-louch from Coat Gay-ass?

>>4810933
...How do you pronounce 'K'? Just curious.

>>4807465
Why so many fucking weeboos in this thread? It is Kate-sith unless you want to say it with a Japanese accent. Neither is wrong.

>>4810954

K. As in the letter K. Say it out loud.
It would be 'Kei' in Japanese. Unless you somehow pronounce the actual letter K as 'key'.

>>4810936
>>4810957
My bad, I misread K-toe as Kee-toe. Deleted that shit so people don't get confused.

>>4807712
I don't know how you pronounce 'own' but that seems nothing like how you pronounce the 'on' at all. If anything, it's much shorter than the english 'on' and the 'n' is real soft. 'Own' would be saying the 'O' with it's own name rather than the short 'o-' (Since the 'w' is an indicator to draw the 'O'). It's more like saying 'on' but shorter.

>>4810987
The American 'on' sounds more like the Japanese 'an' though.
The pronunciation is closest to the English 'on', I'd say.

>>4810938
No it isn't. It's from the gaelic, Cat Sí. Whether Scots or Irish, it's still a 'see' sound rather than 'sith'. God knows where they came up with 'cait', though, as even in the old form it was still 'cat sith'. I suppose you could argue it should be 'kayt' from the weird misspelling.

>>4810861
Ghibli themselves poke fun at how they mispronounce the word - the Italian has a hard G, Gib-li, but they use a soft one, Jib-li/Jiburee. Except in the Ghiblies short films, where they correct themselves as a joke.

Gill-bee is right out though, lol

>>4810938

Actually since it's base off of a Gaelicname, it would be pronounced "Ket-Shee"

>>4807483
C.C = C2 since there are two Cs. Its the same as the old Q2 party lines they had in Japan (Press 9 twice, 9 = kyu = Q)

On the Geass subject, I was reading about it lots of didn't know whether to pronounce it Gee or Jee.

I pronounced 'Rattata' as 'RA-ta-ta' for about a decade, until my friend and I had a debate over it, we decided to check the Pokerap for confirmation, and I conceded to her that it was indeed 'Ra-TAT-a', not 'RA-ta-ta'.

>See a Mephisto Pheles cosplayer.
>I want to take a picture.
>Call out to the cosplayer, "MESTOPHSTOPOLESE."
>Immediately realize I said it completely wrong.
>Do the dinosaur.

>>4807710
That depends on which romanization method you're using. For example, some methods would render Yumuzuki as Yumuduki.

>>4807571
My cousin did that at one point.
One of the stupidest thing she ever did was "correct" me on how to pronounce "Anaheim". She says it's "Ana-heem" because it's "Arabic". No, dipshit, it's Ana-Hyme because 1)it's German 2)You're from Chicago while Anaheim is a 20 minute drive from my city, I think I know how it's fucking pronounced.

I also have this habit of pronouncing Hajime as "Ha-jee-mah" instead of "Ha-jee-mey"

Good thing I don't mispronounce words because I'm not a fucking weeaboo and actually know some Japanese. Seriously, you must be kinda stupid. I didn't independently study japanese that much, just from watching anime it's pretty easy to catch on...

>>4811266
>not a fucking weeaboo
>know some japanese
>just from watching anime

OH U!

>>4811266

>>4810914
I'm not going to even bother with that guy's name, I just call him Lulu.
I never hang around Code Geass fans because there's several things I'll pronounce weird and won't even care to correct.

>>4807437
I think it's from the french city, not the english word.

>>4811266
Things can get goofy with the romanization, though. How would you pronounce something like "Zssa" without first seeing it in kana?

>>4811116
I cant pronounce it right. I will always say Rat-a-ta god dammit.

>Dumb bitches don't know how to pronounce yaoi
>Ya-oi
>Yi-oi
WhatthefuckamIreading.jpg

It's pronounced Ya-o-i. That simple, there's nothing wrong with yowie which is basically the three syllables said really fast together. Or you could just say BL which is what most of SE Asia uses anyway, short for boy's love.

And what's with all this fuckery about pronouncing manga 'man-guh' in English? It's perfectly acceptable to pronounce it MAN-GA since it's now an actual English word that's become part of the language.

What if I said every word derived from English/French/Spanish in Japanese the way it was pronounced in English? How retarded would that sound?

Watashi kino HAMBURGER wo tabemashita, soshite tomodachi to eigakan de HARRY POTTER no eiga wo mimashita.

Also, it's Ciel. It's a French word meaning sky and it's not that uncommon for people to name their children using foreign words, I have a friend named Siobhan just because it's a scottish name and she's not scottish doesn't mean we call her SEE-OH-B-HAN. Ciel is pronounced SEE-EL. That simple. For all those fuckers arguing about historical accuracy, the story involves around demons and grim reapers and zombies and curry bread. All of which I'm sure is very historically accurate.

BTW Siobhan's pronounced SHA-VAGHN.

No. I always pronounce every character's name perfectly.

>>4811498
>>BTW Siobhan's pronounced SHA-VAGHN.

Mind fucking blown.

>>4811155
As someone who was told multiple times while reading Faust that it's pronounced "Meh-FI-stof-o-lees," (the i being short) I never know whether to call him that or by the Japanese version of his name (Meh-FEE-sto FAY-ree-zu).

>>4811498
Fucking Scottish names, man. They make no sense.

Slightly related note, but it's Irish, not Scottish.
A freind of mine is Orfhlaith, that's pronounced as "Orla"
My name? Róisín. That's "ro-sheen"

>>4811498
Actually it's SHI-VON
Shi as in shit and VON as in fawn
>> it's my name

>>4811498
>That simple. For all those fuckers arguing about historical accuracy, the story involves around demons and grim reapers and zombies and curry bread.

Oh u.

>>4811701
it is my name as well actually.

On the subject of 'anime' I always pronounce it like the first part of the word 'animation'. Like 'anna-may'. Isnt that where the word came from in the first place? It always sounds pretentious and weebish when I hear people say 'aw-nee-may'

>>4807438
Ugh, all my friends say In-You-Ya-Sha, and it drives me crazy how many times I have to correct them.

I can't tell how I'm supposed to pronounce Marisa (from Touhou). Is it like the English Marissa or mah-ree-sah or..?

I pronounced Simon/Viral the same way a few others did in the thread at first, though I just say it the way it is in the English dub now to avoid any confusion or anything.

>>4811498
You're an all-round idiot.

Bump.

I don't understand how people can't hear the difference between "owi" and "oi". They sound totally different to me.

>>4813714
They do, yes, but when you put the "ah" sound in front of it, it can get kinda fuzzy, especially depending on how fast you're talking and what region you're from. Same problem crops up with "aoi", I've notice. I try to avoid saying "Yowie" just because it sounds fucking hick-ish.

>>4811701
>>4811607
>>4811498
Man, when it comes to anything Gaelic, you're pretty much fucked on pronunciation. Least phonetically-written languages I've ever seen, which is rather disappointing as I would really love to learn Gaeilge.

>>4814079
*noticed

Some of the keys are going out on my laptop, sorry.

Final Fantasy names have never ceased to cause pronunciation arguments among my friend-group. The Aeris/Aerith argument is always a big one (I don't care if it's officially "Aerith" now, "Aeris" sounds and looks prettier). "Yoo-fee" vs. "Yuh-fee" comes up a lot too--always thought "Yuh-fee" sounds retarded, so thank goodness. I absolutely refuse to pronounce Tidus properly, though. I can't say it with a straight face. Zidane's another weird one, too. I mean, "Zih-dawn"? What language is that even from...?

Ifrit especially gets a lot of debate. My boyfriend is retarded and insists on "Ihn-friht" even though there is clearly no fucking n there, while the rest of us argue if it's "Eef-reet" or "Eye-friht" or "Ihf-riht" or "Ihf-reet". Not even kidding. Also, somehow always manage to baffle people by saying Quetzacoatl correctly. However, on the other hand, I always said the Bastion part of Hollow Bastion as "Bay-stee-OHN"... because that apparently looked French to me or something. Then people started laughing at me. I fixed that pretty damn quick.

>>4811701
This.

Also I get table flipping angry when people say "sell-tick."

/madirishgirl

I'm getting so much second hand embarrasment from this thread and so much failure in your "right pronunciation" guesses. Can't English speakers pronounce a single japanese name right?

>>4814113
IS it actually "kell-tick" then? I've had people start getting on my case for both pronunciations and it's really freakin' annoying, so it'd be nice to know.

>>4814219
It's kell-tick. The basketball team is sell-tick.

>>4814228
That reminds me of how people always get pissed at me for pronouncing Notre Dame as "Nohtruh Dahm" when I'm referring to the football team. (the ruh is the french back of the throat r, i have no idea how i'd type that)

They're always like "THE FOOTBALL TEAM IS NOETUR DAYME. WE'RE IN AMERICA YOU PRONOUNCE IT THE AMERICAN WAY HURR DURR"

>>4814149
oh u

>>4814106
Zidane is especially weird since the Japanese call him Jitan. I was really confused when I first heard Dissidia VAs saying "Zidorn". I'd been saying "Zidann", as in Zinedine Zidane.

>>4814273
Wow, I never noticed that everyone says noetur dayme until now. I always say nohtruh dahm

>>4814284
I always thought it was "zih" as in "zipper" and "dayn" as in, like, a Great Dane or Danish. I'm glad I never really got into IX, otherwise his name would bother me a LOT more.

>>4814273
Don't feel too bad, no one but the rich kids who go to Notre Dame and some of the surrounding townies like anything about them anyway.