any fandom with excessive weeaboos and huge gatherings that are a mess.

the only one I've been a part of that fell into that group was Vocaloid. The gatherings always suck because there's always 30+ people and no good organizers.

No idea on Hetalia/Homestuck/Naruto/Kuroshit since I don't go to those gatherings (not interested).

homestuck.

hetalia embarrasses me.

..that's about it.

It's a toss-up between Kingdom Hearts and Hetalia. Hetalia has some sane people but when you read it, it's tripe. Kingdom Hearts is an alright series but has relatively few sane people still in its fandom. Both are generally populated by yaoi-obsessed and irresponsible hambeasts. They're so generic that when you see a good cosplay of someone from Kingdom Hearts or Hetalia, you still don't really notice it.

Kuroshitsuji. There's only one sane Kuroshitsuji fan that I know of, but she's not even a cosplayer.

>>4806153
This this this this. Vocaloid gatherings SUCK so hard because the fandom is so spread out. You never know what songs or videos other fans will be familiar with. No one knows how to pose. It's always a fucking disorganized mess. The only time I attended a decent one was before I started cosplaying Vocaloid, but I went to a gathering as a photographer and told people how and where to pose and got people to change positions every few moments so it didn't get boring.

The fans themselves are really nice, it's just a chaotic fandom to be in.

I'm gonna save us some time.

>Fandoms that are extremely popular or mainstream
>Fandoms that are entry-level tier and therefore attract all the newbies
>Fandoms where people ship couples to an unhealthy degree

Avatar the Last Airbender fits all three. I love that series. Love it. But the fandom SUCKS. I try to stay away from the fandom as much as I can. I'm glad the finale more or less put shipping wars to a rest, but for a while there, I just wanted to bitchslap everyone who said Zutara or Kataang.

I don't fucking care who Katara likes. That's not what this show is about.

>>4806185

>The fans themselves are really nice, it's just a chaotic fandom to be in.

This, this so much. I don't have problems at all with cosplayers when they're walking around or asking for photos (save for a few rambunctious younger cosplayers occasionally), but at the gatherings.. Ugh.

>>4806200
I think OP was asking more for individual opinions.

>>4806205
the dancing gets to be a problem, too. you'll have about 1/3rd of the cosplayers who learned the newest popular dance and want to perform it, but the rest will be left out of the fun. There's just no way to make everyone happy.

>>4806208
and they're all going to fall into those categories, more or less. just saying.

I used to think Naruto was bad then Hetalia happened.

Though at my recent con I couldn't handle the volume of Vocaloid.

>worst to tolerable

1. Hetalia
2. Homestuck
3. Naruto
4. Vocaloid
5. Avatar the Last Airbender

>>4806219
I think Naruto's toned down A LOT though due to this generation not really being into it all that much. I mean most true fans are in their 20's. Not that adults can't be obnoxious but you saw the Naruto fan craze more with high school kids around the time it was at it's popularity height.

Personally, I think Hetalia is the worst fandom people-wise. Homestuck is just an eyesore.

>>4806213

Ugh, that reminded me of the horribly done AX2011 vocaloid gathering on Saturday.
>gathering is set for west hall, indoors
>huge fucking crowd already
>have to move outside (people who showed up late couldn't find it later on, why wasn't it outside to begin with, etc)
>miku, luka, kaito, gumi, meko, rin, gakupo called up for pictures
>no twins, len is left out (wut)
>get a few pictures of "all other vocaloids that weren't mentioned before"
>"OKAY EVERYONE LET'S MOVE OVER SOMEWHERE ELSE TO DO THE DANCES"
>no PVs, no group combinations
>fucking countdown started way too fast, no time to take proper photos of the huge group
>entire shoot was like 15 minutes, rest of the time was for dancing
why did I even bother

Zim
MLP
Hetailia
Homestuck
Naruto

Personally, I can gladly say Hetalia. I mostly blame my friend (She bumped herself down to acquaintance now) of mine because for over a year she would /only/ talk about Hetalia. Every. Single. Fucking. Day.

MLP fandom also bothers me.

I'm afraid of what will happen to Tiger & Bunny because of all the fujioshit...

>bad homestuck gatherings

No gathering I have hosted or been apart of has traveled into dark territory. It's always been good clean fun with amazingly kind and humble people.

Granted, there are bad eggs and gatherings that just devolve into shit. It's common with every huge fandom, but you have to recognize that there are people within every fandom, including Hetalia, that try to fix the loose ends and detach themselves from the ravenous weebs and idiots.

I've seen amazing Big 3 meets, I've seen amazing Hetalia meets, and I've seen and run amazing Homestuck meets.

It's not any Fandom I have bad experiences with, it's the PEOPLE I have bad experiences with. Yaoi-obsessed weebs, basement dwelling hambeasts, egotistical/narcissistic blowhards or a combination of any of these are the types that I cannot stand.

>>4806222

I just still have horror flashbacks to grade school about Naruto. Those were dark days my friend, dark days.

>>4806231
the Fanime one was fairly comprehensive and long as hell. We even had a Miki.
I feel for you

>>4806297
Damn it, you're making me feel old anon! I was just graduating high school when Naruto came to the U.S.

It's not anime, but the Harry Potter fandom is quite bad. Shipping wars and horrible fanfiction.

>>4806305
'My Immortal' OH GOD THE HORROR!!

But aside from the joking I think that can be included. Anything that can be cosplayed should count.

Vocaloid. No question.

>>4806293

Oh god, I'm the same way too. Ever since I started the anime I've been really enjoying it until it hit me there could be a possibility of the fandom mainly just being girls cosplaying as ONLY Kotetsu, Barnaby, and Ivan ("LOL BISHIES") and yaoi'ing it up the wazoo. While I don't mind yaoi, I just.. don't want to see that shit cosplayed. Especially by girls.

>>4806315

Different anon here. I'm kind of on the fence. On the one hand, all the T&B bros seem to be bros (on /cgl/ and /a/) so I don't think it'll be all that bad. On the other hand, you're right about the fujoshit, especially with Barnaby and Tiger. But I'm hoping that this fanbase will have a more mature fanbase, considering.... Plus, it seems to have a lot more male fans and interested male cosplayers than other quickly exploding fandoms (Madoka, etc). Otherwise it's still small and relatively unknown so I think it's okay for now.

>>4806329

I mean, I don't want to condemn the future fandom right away. It just worries me a little, is all. I know for a lot of series when it's first new the fandom is generally mature, though as it (maybe) gradually gets bigger, the fandom just becomes awful due to those only caring about men having sex all the goddamn time.

I know it won't get as bad as like, the Kingdom Hearts or Hetalia fandom, but some times those bad eggs ruin it for everyone else. Though, I really do enjoy Tiger & Bunny, so I don't really see myself dropping it, even if the fandom may turn sour. I do really appreciate all the mature fans this fandom has garnered so far as well, so I'm having hopes that with the new fans it brings it, the fandom will stay generally chill and mature.

Bioware fans for me. I can handle KH, Naruto and Hetalia because they are just immature but Bioware fans are the most whinny entitled shits out there and it makes me sad to be apart of the fandom after reading the forums and FB page.

Why:
-They are constantly complaining about stupid shit like femShepard and what she looks like and why isnt she on the cover. etc. Who cares.
-They are obsessed with who you get to sleep with in game and making sure all the options are able to be gay. Again who cares.
-They complain if something isn't customizable enough so they can live out their marysue adventure. "BAW I dont get to play an elf."
-Their online community is a bunch of chicks with sand in vag. Whenever a cosplayer is posted on the FB they constantly bitched about stupid things. I would say they are even more picky then 4chan and get super jealous that the devs havent recognized their super amazing costumes.

Experience:
I have never been at a meet up cosplay wise (though I am sure it would just be a bunch of chicks thinking that one another hasn't actually played the game) but at PAX last year I had to listen for 3 hrs in the line up to get into the DA2 demo (yes I know ppl hate the game not the point) about how this girl behind me was screaming that she was going to make a scene if she didnt get a free Tshirt because she was the biggest fan ever.

I realize its a small part of the community doing this but as someone who is predominantly in the gaming fandoms they are the worst.

>>4806351

Ugh, sorry for some typos/weird sentence structures.
I'm a bit tired right now and usually just type up what comes to mind and am not really bothering with proofreading

>>4806357

Interesting! I never would have thought Bioware to have fans like that.

Then again the only Bioware cosplays I've seen are either Garrus, Shepard, Tali, or Liara.

I assume they are more predominate in number during gaming conventions.

>>4806315
>>4806329

>>4806293 here. Yeah most T&Bros from /cgl/ or /a/ are pretty cool. Maybe it's just all the fangirls on tumblr that scare me mostly...

>>4806378

Ah, that's really good to know! I only recently got back into browsing around /cgl/ and checked in /a/ few times. I don't really have anyone around me irl that knows about Tiger&Bunny, so whenever I get to talk to someone about it, even if just a little bit, I'm glad it's not "OH EM JAY KOTETSUxBARNABY IS SO HAWT" or some crap like that. It's nice to see people being able to talk about what happened in an episode, and not just fangasming how a certain character looks.

As for Tumblr dealing with T&B, I'm guilty of keeping watch of a "Ask Sky High" blog. It's pretty in character, as far as I can tell, and they don't favor ships.

Ugh, is the Vocaloid fandom really that bad? I've been in the "God, these shitty storebought costumes clog up cons, this fandom is the worst!" camp for a while, but there are a few PVs I've just fallen in love with...

Is it worth it to cosplay something you like if the fandom is concentrated suck?

>>4806405
I'm planning on cosplaying from Sandplay song of the Dragon soon. Those outfits are gorgeous. I could care less about the fandom.

>>4806409
>singing*

>>4806368
Its not only the cosplayers who are doing this to be fair. Though some of them do come off as kinda conceited when you read their profiles and comments online. But that could be their gamer girl snowflake syndrome coming through. Its more the online community as a whole.

>>4806391
The T&B threads on /a/ have actually been praised as one of more tame threads. They keep their stuff in one thread, don't spam other threads, don't shove it down anyone's throat... Best of all they really get deep into spechulation and plot, there's lots of interesting ideas (that scarily come true a lot of times).

While you're at it, you should follow AskBonny-Chan. It's hilarious.

The one filled to the brim with elitists.

Never noticed anything shit awful from any of those 'OH GOD SO HORRIBLE' fandoms. Save for some random 14 year old flashing Miku, but she's also in the NGE fandom just to show off her underage ass in a bodysuit. And Panty & Stocking so she can be a slut Panty and be completely in character.

>>4806420
PSG?

>>4806405

Honestly, even though I don't cosplay (I just come here to see other peoples cos), if you really do enjoy it, cosplay from it. But there's always a possibility that you could attract the good/bad of the fandom.

It'd be neat though if you did a cosplay after the different PV's, rather than the default Vocaloid outfits. The default outfits are overdone to death. Like an anon had mentioned earlier, regardless of how good the outfit is, some times it just goes so unnoticed because of how overdone the outfit is. If you do a Vocaloid cosplay though, goodluck to you!

>>4806424
That.

Really, the worst are people who constantly whine about other fandoms, not realising that they're being asses themselves.

And yes hypocrite yada yada, I'm not whining about fandoms, I'm whining about people whining about fandoms when it's obvious it's just individuals.

>>4806435
>Really, the worst are people who constantly whine about other fandoms

Especially when they judge a series they've never seen or read based on that fandom. It's amazing how influential even negative attention is to others who see it.

>>4806416

I just looked up that blog right now and am already loving it. Thank you anon for recommending! If you haven't checked out the Ask Sky High blog, you should and you should again!

>>4806443
Yep. Been trying to watch Hetalia but I find it genuinely boring, tried Homestuck but I can't get past the first chapter, tried Final Fantasy 7 but all I want to do is shoot Cloud and... whatever the fuck their faces were, black hair chick and flower girl.

Power to them if they enjoy it, if they're obnoxious it's not because they enjoy something I don't like.

not really the fandom I hate, but Homestuck.
I had a not so lovely realtionship that lasted nearly a year, and my boyfriend was CONSTANTLY trying to get me into home stuck, as were all his friends. It really pissed me off and kind of soured me to the whole thing.

I feel bad for it now but when ever I see a home stuck cosplay or some one talking about it I cant help but feel disgruntled, mostly its a bad taste in my mouth and it reminds me of 'him'

I feel bad though since it does seem kinda interesting. Other than that there are no fandoms I particularly have issues with. I hear the worst horror stories about the anime Kuroshit fans. Some crazy horror stories there.

>>4806357
I feel the same way about certain (read: a lot of) TF2 fans. Remind them that the game has gone Free2Play and they go apeshit. My encounters with TF2 cosplayers seem to be okay but I guess it depends on how they feel about the F2P bullshit.

Not entirely cosplay related but
>Family Guy
They're just like meme-spouting faggots but it's okay because Family Guy is mainstream enough that nobody will bat an eye if you mention "buttscratcher" as opposed to "closing the pool".

>People who still think Chuck Norris jokes are funny
Do I have to explain this?

>Tarantino fans
I don't think he's a cinematic genius. I saw Kill Bill and I can tell you right now it was the stupidest thing I ever seen. Tell the fans that you're not into Tarantino and they act like you just murdered Jesus. Somehow, not liking his movies mean I'm trying to be "cool" or "don't understand movies". I'm not going to start a movement to out him as a fraud, I just don't like his movies.

>>4806231

...Wow, more or less the exact same scenario at Sakura Con 2010.

2010:
>Less than a minute for full group photo of all cosplayers
>Solo character shots of main vocaloids, less than a minute per character
>No smaller group photos
>No variant photos
>No "any other vocaloids"
>Rest of the "shoot" is whales dancing to Love & Joy
>Most non-dancers leave

Rage, since there were some great variants that I barely got a shot at since they were shoved to the side so quickly. Actually most people including myself left after we realized the hambeasts weren't going to stop stomping anytiime soon.
I didn't bother going to the 2011 shoot, but I heard it was pretty much the same since it was organized by the same people.

bump

>>4806660
There were two shoots at 2011, one Saturday, one Sunday. I didn't go to Sunday but the Saturday one went much better. The location proved to be a problem because nobody knows how to fucking find that waterfall area. A huge amount of Vocaloids had gathered in the wrong place, and my brother helped steer them to where we were actually meeting. It was disorganized and confusing, as usual, but we did get a lot of group shots, some organized by character, some organized by PV. After a while some of us broke off to dance, but luckily that plaza is big enough to have two groups without any problem so some people danced, and the rest continued taking pictures. However those of us that danced didn't do much because nobody had brought a decent sound system and no one could hear the music on the tiny speakers or laptops anyone had. I think we gave up after two songs.

So it was all annoying as hell, but it still was better than the previous year, because we had the ability to spread out into groups. As much as I love vocaloid and will continue to cosplay from it, I don't know if I'll keep going to shoots unless they're privately organized.

>>4806592
I'm with you on Tarantino. That reminds me of fans of 300 and Watchmen, too.

I hate, hate hate hate hate hate HAAAAATE any movies involving Frank Miller or Zack Snyder. 300, Sin City, Watchmen, The Spirit, they all make me want to fucking puke. I wouldn't have sat through all of Watchmen if my then-boyfriend hadn't refused to leave the theater. And fans of that movie flip their shit if you insult it.

Right now? There are a few that I really dislike.

>Madoka

Jesus fucking Christ, the show was okay but the fanbase is completely obsessive and absurdly dumb at that. They are so quick to call trolling if you say, "I liked X about Madoka, but I really wasn't fond of Y," because they simply can't accept that maybe their precious magical girl anime isn't perfect, or that not everybody loves it. They do the same thing if you even say that you like the show, but hate the fanbase, because they want everybody else to be as retarded about their fandom as they do. Worst elitists on the market right now, they over-react about everything.

>MLP

Similar to Madoka fans, though dumber (but usually nicer, I'll give them that.) They are under the impression that everybody is secretly an MLP fan, even if they have watched the show and stopped because they didn't like it. They aren't that pushy about it though.

>League of Legends

Insistent that their game is not an RTS, but rather in a special-snowflake genre all its own (with some exceptions.) They never talk about anything but LoL and insist that it is the best e-sport on the market, surpassing even Starcraft. Many of them are hipsters. If the game itself weren't so bad, I could ignore them.

>Homosuck

Overabundance of bad cosplay, obnoxious fans who think that trolling is the coolest thing you could do, and the fact that most people who cosplay this series don't even read the comic. Those who do read it and don't talk about it are usually fine.

>Hetalia

Need I say more?

Kingdom hearts, Naruto, Homestuck, TF2 and of course Hetalia

>>4806357
I have mixed feelings about this because on one hand, I do a lot of Bioware cosplay, but on the other I have met so many people in the fandom exactly like that.

They're all incredibly rude and full of themselves. I was just complimenting this one DA cosplayer and asking her a question about the shoot, and she was so incredibly curt and rude to me, she acted like I had shit on her lunch.
At Otakon my friend yelled "Awesome costume" to one of the ME cosplayers and they seriously went "UGH" , as if his compliment was such a pain to hear.

I used to be involved in more shoots but I don't really go to any anymore. People are too rude and opinionated and I just don't want to deal with negativity at a con.

>>4806303
>old
I was graduating high school when Gundam Wing came to the U.S. It's all uphill from here, bro.

Kingdom Hearts and Narutards are the ongoing plague of every convention I go to. After hearing all the shit about them I'm dreading Hetalia fans though.

>>4808665
I am actually seeing a drop in the KH fandom.
Last year ACC was pretty much 95% KH.

This year I only say three people cosplaying it, and two of them I knew and they are just "I'm under the impression that it's popular and will get me laid" cosplayers.

The other one was an obvious first-timer cosplayer.

In my opinion, I think the worst right now is Madoka and Homestuck.
Madoka mostly because half the girls [not all of them though] are only into it for Madoka's adorable ruffle butt dress, which get get off ebay and a party city wig.

They probably have never even watched the show and are under the impression it's the next CCS.

Is the Madoka fandom really that negative? Though, I probably haven't noticed since I didn't pay much attention after the anime ended. I enjoyed the series, but I can admit it was not the greatest thing in the world. I actually didn't really care for any of the girls personalities.

If anything, from what I know of some people, they actually didn't want to start Madoka because it involved magical girls.

>>4806145
No. The people who complain about Madoka fans just plain don't like the show and don't like that it's popular

As for the fans I can't stand

T&B - 100% fat shrill yaoi fans
Homestuck
KH
Penguindrum fans(yes, already)
Umineko

I fucking hate Homestuck, and then it got popular and these fat fucking nerds shit up the entire internet by masturbating all over the piece of shit.

>>4808716

Well, cosplay wise, it seems to be made up of a lot of snotty, elite bitches and also girls who have never watched the show. The Madoka threads on /cgl/ sometimes deviate into drama and bitching over costumes but mostly it's okay. But at cons, a few cosplayers can be pretty snotty.

Not from personal experience, but from friends' experiences and the like, I can safely say Hetalia is terrible.
Not going to keep me away, of course. I'm still cosplaying Britannia Angel and any weebs that glomp me will not be taken lightheartedly.
Hetalia is dying down, though, the worst fans are drifting to Homestuck or something else for now.
That's the thing about massive and therefore bad fandoms: they always move from one thing to the next.
Unless Hetalia gets shown on, say, Adult Swim. Then we're fucked twice-over.

Speaking of AS, I estimate Durarara!! will be swamped with hambeasts within the next few conventions.

>>4808755
Oh yeah, DRRR and its fans are terrible.

>>4808761
What's wrong with Durarara? I like the show but haven't noticed any examples of asshole fans yet. The ShizuoxIzaya shippers, maybe.

Kuroshit seems to be mellowing out, leaving only the sane fans behind. All the insane fans moved to Homestuck.

I will be avoiding any Homestuck gatherings this coming year.

>>4808771
Agreed. I can't ship anyone except Celty x Shinra. They're the only pairing that seems right, except Kida x Saki, but personally I don't like Saki so.

>>4808771
That's just it. The Shizaya shippers.
Plus the fact that almost any anime that gets shown on Adult Swim spawns an annoying fandom.

>>4808755

I think Durarara has died down, since it's peak seemed to be during 2010. But with it's airing on Adult Swim I wouldn't be surprised if the cons were filled with more Shizuo, Izaya, and Celty's.

>>4808690
There aren't many narutards around anymore at cons. Granted there are still a lot but I remember a couple years ago they made up most of the con cosplay wise.

Homestruck, Hetalia and Kuroshitsuji
/thread

Excel Saga

Vocaloid, goddamit.

>>4808665
My problem with the TF2 fandom is that they are AWFUL at the game (if they even play)

They are the people that call the Pyro overpowered and ignore the fact that the heavy has always been better at W+M1

Then they cheer when the demoman gets another useless mêlée weapon

GACKT fandom.

well, we all know it's Kuroshisuji/Black Butler. What's the point of this thread?

Hetalia, Kingdom Hearts, Higurashi, Vocaloid, Fullmetal Alchemist... most of what has been mentioned here.

Though not anime, Doctor Who has a shitton of crazy fans I run into all the time over the internet.

>>4808888
>Doctor Who
NO

Kuroshit. Hetalia. Homestuck.

>>4808880
>implying that's what everyone thinks
OP is asking for individual opinions not a consensus. You'd know that if you actually bothered to read the entire first post.

TBH. I have yet to run into any crazy fans of Kuroshitsuji, Hetalia, Homestuck etc.

I hear stories, sure. But I haven't meet them in person yet. But from the stories I've heard, Hetalia is probably one of the worst.

With Homestuck heading that way. (Spitting into buckets, anyone?)

>>4806357
To be fair, the worst Mass Effect cosplayers keep getting highlighted because they have, like, a production staff behind them. People have cosplayed things like "original asari" and gotten all sorts of press about it. Or those women in nothing but body paint. Or the Miranda with the crazy-inaccurate costume and the shitty photoshop job.

>>4808683
Was it this guy, pic related?

>>4808907
>Implying Kuroshit is not a first-place runner.

>>4808683
I went to a small Dragon Age gathering last year and there were very few of us but we all talked about things like game strategy and the books. Went to Dragon Age gathering this year, everyone talks about how their Hawke is gay with Anders.... damn it

Do you guys just everything that is popular?

From my 2 cents: I've only recently in the past year gotten into fandoms, but even then I stay at a distance. I don't go to photoshoots, but I lurk forums. So, this is me just going on the surface.

Madoka- I've only encountered helpful people with this fandom, especially with the cosplay.
Hetalia- I learned quickly to distance myself. I loved the show, but then all the drama, shipping and tomfoolery put me off. I know a few cosplayers who do this religiously and I'm happy nothing crazy has happened to them. At least they're sane.
MLP- This one is by far the creepiest for me. Nice people and a funny fandom, but something lurks underneath. I love the some artwork, but I stay far away from the fanfics... I just want the show for what it is, not anything added on and I certainly do not want to see any of the ponies getting it on w/ one another.
Homestuck- I don't even know anything about this stuff I read a bit of it but got bored. It's a webcomic, and yet it's seeped into the masses like a virus. This one confuses me so much. For me, this has bombarded every corner that I lurk and I want a day where I can lurk w/o seeing it.
Vocaloid- I've stayed away from anything concerning this. I do my own searching for songs and video's. There's so much out there that even though I know more than most, I'm still like at a bottom tier when talking about it. I have over 900 songs of this on my ipod, but I couldn't tell you the songs or the outfits. I don't care for that. I just like the songs and Miku's fanart.

it's not anime, but is there anyone out there who is a Marble Hornets fan like me?

because the fandom is getting kinda.....WEIRD.

whoever started the Fat Masky thing....i just don't know. apparently Tim - the REAL Tim - knows about it and is really creeped out. fandoms can have in-jokes and stuff, but when it creeps the actual actor of an actual series out, it needs to tone it down a little.

Kingdom Hearts, Naruto, and Hetalia have the worst fanbases that I have (personally) encountered. I used to cosplay as Kairi back in the day and would get a ton of hate comments. Shit got annoying. Naruto... as for that, I went to a local convention and saw a bunch of hambeasts tackle a Sasuke cosplayer HARD. I'm surprised the guy could even walk after that. Crazy Hetalia fans scare the shit out of me. There's nothing like walking down a crowded hallway to see an America cosplayer get tackled to the ground, followed by a Hungary, Germany, and Italy cosplayer trying to rape them. FUN TIMES.

Just went to a con and was cosplaying from large fandoms (Vocaloid and Homestuck, respectively.)

I'd vote Vocaloid is worst out of the two, based on my own interactions with cosplayers from the same fandom.

Homestuck cosplayers where just so friendly, nine times out of ten I got a smile or laugh when I made eye contact with a cosplayer.

On the other hand, Vocaloid cosplayers would give me a horrible death glare or pretend not to acknowledge me. It's sort of awkward.

shrug

Kingdom Hearts and Naruto are my two biggest fandoms, have been for years, I just avoided getting into the cosplay scene -because- of the bad rep the crazed yaoi-fans have given us.

So if I show up as Demyx at my next con, should I just expect hate and disappointment?

Naruto
PSG
APH
Homestuck
Most of the PSG cosplayers at Otakon were NOT wearing underwear... My friend was photo bombing the shoot, and i sat with her... when ever someone bent over for a pic...oh gawd....the asses! Red Pussies are NOT something i wanna see...
Homestuck.. honestly, i dont even know what its about...and i dont want to know, the badly painted cosplays are a HUGE eyewosre. Naruto has died down but is still runned by weebos. Axis Powers, my friends are civil with their cosplays, some of the most sane cosplayers i have ever met but i dont know how they put up with it

>>4809044
I was tackled before when I cosplayed Sasuke... not fun.

Vocaloid's cosplyers are nothing but stuck up bitches! I did a Neru cosplay at Katsucon, i didnt have a group, i was solo for most of that con and i swear... EVERY other Neru cosplayer i passed gave me HARSH looks.. Which made me sad seeing how i was looking forward to taking pics with other vocaloids. I thought i was just being dumb, but i met up with some friends that were doing Luka and Miku and that told me it wasn't just me seeing things, that other Mikus and Lukas were eyeballing them... Why cant we all just get along god damn it. Im all for poking fun at BAD cosplays, but i think its too "high school" to give dirty looks at someone wearing the same shoes as you

>>4809087
Organization thirteen is to blame for a lot of the shittyness
Most of them literally existed only to pad out the length of the game and were barely fleshed out as characters

>>4809290
same anon here, and I actually agree. Most just serve no purpose. The few that do are really only relevant to parts of the plot that are only understood because of stuff in the final mixes, so american players don't even know it.

>>4809312
Yet the fandom cares more about the dead-weight org xiii members than they do Kairi, who has fallen off the face of the earth (she got a goddamn keyblade, which was forgotten about once kh2 came along, then she herself was forgotten )
But females in kh2 are scarcely treated better than they are in naruto

>>4809181

> WHY CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG!!!
> all for poking fun at bad cosplays
> mad at receiving dirty looks

Hmmmm

>>4809445
Well, Naruto does have some pretty useless females. But I do like a handful of them and some did grow on me. I guess it depends on the preference. As with KH.... I think Kairi is adorable and I rather dislike org xiii characters because of the fanbase.

>>4809495
Yeah, I like Kairi well enough, pretty certain all the fan-hate comes from those who ship Sora and Riku (hey, I do too, but that's no reason to detest the girl).

>>4809522
It does.
That's where a lot of hate in the fandoms mentioned in this thread come from: yaoi fangirls who hate any boobs that threaten their OTP.

Personally, it's not that I hate Kairi, I just don't care for her. She's useless, yeah, but she hasn't done anything really hate-worthy. And even if she did, that's no reason to take it out on the cosplayer.

A lot of annoying fans can't comprehend that cosplayer =/= character.

Ok, obviously this doesn't count for the anime community, but the worst fandom out there in general? I'd say kpop. Now I like kpop as much as the next person, but their fans think they're such special snowflakes, for some reason or another. I'm not sure why, actually, but they just have to SHOUT TO THE ENTIRE WORLD how hot their beloved idols are, better than your faves, etc.

In short, they are miles more obnoxious than jpop fandom, at least in my opinion.

>>4809557
I agree with this.

Take Lizzy for example from Kuroshitsuji. Most yaoi fangirls HATE her guts to no end and even go so far as to be rude to the cosplayers. I've heard stories of Lizzy cosplayers being denied photos during shoots and cons.

For me personally, I can deal with female characters. I may not like some of them but I can tolerate them and I would NEVER be rude to a cosplayer no matter who they're cosplaying. Plus, I regularly cosplay Ciel and I love it ever time a Lizzy asks me to take a pic with her. I think they are really cute together. (and yet I am a yaoi fan but I can appreciate het couples as well.)

>Kingdom Hearts
... Is a fucking embarassment. Just walking through the halls, I've seen more poorly-done crossplay so that the cosplayers involved can reenact "yaoi" scenes (which I assume is from their fanfic/fanart).

Plus it pisses me off that KH fans immediately latch onto the FF fandom and drag that down into an even bigger mess, just because a handful of FF characters are in the KH games.

Tie or 2nd worse would go to:
>Hetalia
... Again, mostly the same stuff. I know almost nothing about the series, and the fans of it have really made me want nothing to do with learning more about it. All the Hetalia cosplayers I've ever encountered are again, obnoxious and often crossplaying so they can reenact yaoi scenes with each other.

Then I'd also want to mention...
> MLP
... It's taking over like a damn cancer. The only saving grace of this fandom in a con setting is that a lot of the costumes are relatively good-looking and creative. But while online, it's annoying to see every existing character in every bit of tv show, cartoon, video game, movie, super hero, etc.... turned into a MLP.

And it's like any other fad cartoon, god forbid you dislike it!

One thing the shitty fanbases have in common :
Getting fixated on objectively lousy characters
Who cares if they have no bearing on the plot,are poorly written or are psychopathic and irredeemable? THEY LOOK HOT AND THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS.

Death Note.
Murder, terrible eyeliner and the occasional fantastic fanfiction.

But still.

>>4809820
>implying psychopathic characters aren't usually BAMFs

>>4809838
I agree hardcore. DN fanbase are the dumbest bunch of weaboos I've ever had the misfortune of being around.

>>4809847
psychopathy is characterized by the inability to form human attachment and an abnormal lack of empathy.

Why the fuck would you want one as a boy/girlfriend?
The fantards often do.

(Light from death note is a textbook example of psychopathy)

>>4810032
Didn't know you meant it that way. My mistake. I just tend to like that kind of characterization. Granted not all of them are appealing (Light for instance is just plain pathetic)

I think my favorite so far in anime would have to be Muraki from Yami no Matsuei.

The Loveless fandom is pretty horrific.

>>4810064
I'm in San Diego, any yaoi based fandom is horrific here.

Most total fantards: Naruto, Vocaloid

Highest ratio of fantards vs normal fans: Hetalia, Kingdom Hearts

>>4810082
Must be in the wrong part of San Diego, because around 80% of all the yaoi fans I've come across have been surprisingly pleasant, well-mannered, and sane. The few weeaboos I do know are pretty damn mellow compared to the shit I hear stories about anyways. More like amateur-cosplay-and-smutty-fanfiction-writing weeaboos than hambeast-glomping-sugoi-chan weeaboos.

>>4810082

Hey look, another San Diego anon.

I haven't really had any bad experiences with any yaoi fangirls, just encountered some very awkward Vocaloid cosplayers but that's about it.

>>4810240
THIS
SD is pretty chill

I fucking love Hetalia but its fandom is bad. Luckilly IRL I've never seen anything too bad but it still is a little rediculous. I felt like I was ignored and hated the whole time I was in my nyotalia Russia cosplay because no one in my group liked nyotalia.

Homestuck fans are usually nice but a lot I've encountered seem stuck up, like they're so special for liking the comic and they talk nonstop about it.

>Naruto
>Kuroshitsuji
>KH
>Loveless
>Gravitation
Those are my pics for horrible fandoms. But I love all of these series...

>>4808888
>Doctor Who
I never really got into the show (mainly because I'd rather watch something else when it's on) so when I tell someone who does watch it, they flip tables. I'm sure any other time, these people may be decent, but every DW fan I've come across has been a pretentious ass who thinks they're the shit for watching it.

As for the Hetalia fandom, I cosplayed a country that probably wouldn't even fit under minor character so I could observe a shoot without being accosted. They seemed pretty decent until the pairing shoots. Dear God. How the atmosphere could change so quickly is amazing. I heard some minor was almost molested and robbed during it. Luckily, one of her parental units nearby was there to handle it.

>>4810790
Most of them couldn't tell you what the cybermen's weakness used to be or who Tom Baker is

(Gold, The actor who played the fourth doctor )

Lifestyle lolitas.

Diehard Hetalia fan here, and one of the 'few sane ones' at that.

Not about to cause drama or obnoxiously play White Knight, but I will play Devil's Advocate out of sheer curiosity.

To those who list Hetalia 'of course' or '/thread', why not give specific examples of personal experiences you have had? Simply saying 'because I've heard horror stories' doesn't really cut it as a solid, believable opinion in my mind. Bash something if you have the evidence to bash it, not simply because you might look bad or get ridiculed by others by having your own thoughts.

This opinion goes for other fandoms as well and those of you who have listed series 'just because.' Really. I'm all ears.

The worst fandom I've experienced is Hetalia. After the fiftieth time I'd been asked to become one with Russia I quit.

Fandoms are why i was reluctant to go to cons for awhile -

Nayrootoes, Kuroshit and Hetalia.
Honestly, after reading a bit of Homestuck I kind of like it, although i prefer Problem Sleuth. Actually kind of wish people would do Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff cosplay.

I love Kingdom Hearts, and have cosplayed a character from the series at least once every year, but two things about the fandom piss me off the most.

- They are the most likely to have "raver" versions of the characters. I hate that shit more than fan-character/Roxel bullshit, and there's always a handful of them at every con I go to. There was even someone on my local con forum planning a raver Namine, and I had to physically shut my computer and walk away to keep myself from tearing into her.

- Their facination with shitty characters. You'd never know there were thirteen Organization characters if you went by the fandom. THERE ARE MORE OF THEM BESIDES DEMYX, AXEL, AND ROXAS, JESUS CHRIST. I've seen ONE Lexaeus cosplayer, and he was a scrawny little shit who was obviously just there so that his group could say that they had all the Org. members.

>>4812921
Only about 4 of them matter at all plot-wise.

As has been previously said, most of them only existed to pad the length of the game and have no bearing on the plot

>>4812954
Right, because people can't ever be fans of characters that aren't essential to the plot.

Nope, they're just useless wastes of time, because every video game should forgo things like flavor and story-building and just lock you into the main quest. But nothing useless there either: One page of text describing your quest, hundred hours of grinding, then the final boss. Wham, bam, thank you ma'am. And don't get me started on equippables and customization! One armor, one weapon, that's all you need. Anything else is just filler!

tl;dr: I think your argument is improperly structured, and you should take a hard look at what you seem to be implying before bringing it up again.

I tend to stay out of fandoms, or ditch the fandom when things go south (but I'll keep watching/reading/playing the stuff from said fandom).

The only fandom I ever completely bailed from was hetalia. I don't read it any more (I haven't since mid 2009) and I never did watch it.
When I joined the fandom it was super tiny and it consisted of mainly history nerds. There was no crazy fangirls or much of a yaoi fanbase, which is why I joined (i fucking love history).

It was good for a year, and things went to shit quickly. I just can't even properly express how shitty it was.

I still miss tiny history based hetalia fandom, though.

Homestuck gatherings are loud and scary, so I watched from a distance and then left.

A few years ago I went to a phoenix wright gathering. It was really bad, too, and I wasn't expecting that.

>>4812850
I'm a Hetalia fan too, and I think the reason that people don't really state specific examples is because the fandom is so notorious that they don't need to. There's already been so many threads and so many stories over the past few years.

For me, personally, I think the Hetalia fandom is one of the worst because of their blatant disregard for the laws of civility (we're talking about the bad fans exclusively here. I obviously realize that this does not apply to all.) They run around at cons making fools of themselves and other people, screaming like morons, and just being generally annoying. God forbid they ever meet someone from another country lest all hell breaks loose. Not only that, but I see things like pictures posted on the internet of a grave of a WW2 soldier named Alfred F. Jones, and yeah, while that's ironic, you don't need to take a picture of the grave of someone's dead grandpa, make a demotivational poster out of it, and post it on the internet. Not only that, but no one in the comments even took offense to this picture. It kind of appalled me. I don't even want to get into the graveyard shoots, the stepping on flags, or all that other shit that we already know about.

So yeah, I'm a Hetalia fan, but I agree that the fanbase is, majorly, comprised of disrespectful idiots. Pic very related.

>>4812850
When I can't even look up a song called Russian Lullaby without there being a bajillion fucking comments about "kolkolkolkol" or "become one with Russia!", then your fandom needs to settle the fuck down.

>>4812970
Honestly, the fandom was really modest and under control until the webanime came out. Then the dub came out and everything went to shit. I don't even think a majority of the fans have read the comics. I still look up fanart and fics and stuff like that, but I never participate in the fandom. I'm not some kind of elitist, it just makes me rage to talk to the fans now, because they've gotten so bad.

>>4813000
That picture is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.

>>4813011
>I don't even think a majority of the fans have read the comics.

ugh this, seriously. it was alarming to go to a hetalia photoshoot with approx 100+ people, and not have a single person recognize me - people who were cosplaying the same character even asked!

its alarming how few people only watch the anime. heck, all you have to do to keep up with non anime stuff is lurk the comm.. ugh.

>>4813011
Yeah, I agree. I know I probably sound elitest but after a certain point all we got were crazies entering the fandom, so I know how you feel.
also
> I don't even think a majority of the fans have read the comics.
Seriously, what is up with that? I know a lot of people both irl and online that think they are the biggest hetalia fans ever and they've never even read the comic. Some don't even know about it.
I know this one girl who refuses to read them because she can't find the scans online (even though I linked them to her many times) and she owns the (japanese) manga but she won't read it because she can't understand it, despite taking 3 years of japanese and calling herself "fluent" in it.

>>4813014
you sure about that?

At Youmacon last year, Todd Haberkorn was signing autographs, and of course he dream a whole fucking flock of Hetalia fans. Right before I was about to get something signed, this Hetalia cosplayer glomped the shit out of him. He gave her permission to do so (bless his heart), but still. Why would you even ask to do that? I realize this isn't a Hetalia-exclusive phenomenon, but I just thought I'd share.

>>4812970
I try to avoid gatherings because almost all of the ones I've been to have turned into mobs by the end of the day and I just no. No.

The fans you meet just wandering around the con are actually usually a lot saner than the ones you meet at gatherings.

>>4813031
Wow, I'm with you. It's disgusting the way she's disrespecting that flag.

>>4813031
THIS. This pisses me off. This is what I hate about Hetalia. The show, even. Not just the fans. They take some of the most tragic events in the history of the world and make them "moe". Seriously? SERIOUSLY? World War Fucking Two? Nazis? That shit is cute to you? What does that say about you as a person? I'm not one for political correctness or anything, and I don't mind making fun of something, but this is where I draw the line. If you want to dress up in the uniform, whatever. But waving around a Nazi flag is worse than those teenagers who wave around Confederate flags.

Any bad show. Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, Dragon Ball Z. Taste is correlated to maturity and intelligence.

>>4813043
I'll admit, I've bet some good fans. I was sitting around at a con, and I had a Hetalia pin on my purse. The girl next to me said "Oh, I like your pin. You're into Hetalia?" I was like, "Yeah." She responded with "That's cool, so am I", and that was the end of the conversation. But some of them have such a warped sense of reality that it's scary.

>>4813048
THIS THIS AND THIS.
I NEVER comment on hetalia, ever, despite the fact I hate it with every fibre of my being because someone is bound to say omg y so srs and I'll weep for humanity's collective lost soul.

>>4812968
The mattered so little to the plot that they weren't characterized further than NAME and GIMMICK THAT IS USED IN BOSS BATTLE

They lack a reason to exist other than extending an already too fucking long game

If the author doesn't care about them neither will the fans

>>4806219

Wow, I didn't even know about these. I guess I am lucky.

I have to say Hetalia is doing it pretty well right now with all the flag dragging and Nazi shit.

I'd post the Germany cosplayers aiming guns at the stars of David but I'd rather not put that on my computer.

>>4813061
EXACTLY! I'm not trying to rain on your Holocaust parade or anything, but if you have a logical, working brain and any shred of humanity within you, you would realize that some of this shit is not okay.

>>4813048
It just says that they're young enough that things like WW II seen more like fiction than actual events. Expect it to get more that way as the last survivors of that era die. I can't be that mad at a bunch of idiot kids whose entire image of the Nazis comes from Indiana Jones movies. Hell, half these kids probably never saw an Indiana Jones movie. (4 doesn't count)

>>4813072
The sad thing is that it wasn't even that long ago, and already it's become an almost unreal event for people. World War 2 was not this cute little bickering fight between the Axis and the Allies. I'm sure they realize this to some extent, but it's almost like they don't care. I see all this fanart of Germany, Italy, and Japan just being best bros and hanging out and being derpy or whatever, and it's like "I guess that's one way to look at the three countries that helped slaughter millions of innocent people."

>>4813068
I can totally understand if you want to cosplay as a character, but does it really have to go that far?

Not animu but someone's already mentioned it - MLP. Goddamn, I cannot wait for this fad to fucking die already.

I realise that it has some decent writing aimed at its young target audience, and yeah - Lauren Faust had a hand in writing The Powerpuff Girls which was a show I enjoyed as a kid, but most of the fans I know act like Pinkie Pie is the second coming of Jesus. There are a couple that are alright about it if you just say you're not into that sort of thing and they'll let it drop, but I have had stupid arguments over my decision to not watch fucking Flash-animated ponies cavorting around.

I am a lucky anon in that I've avoided the entire Homestuck thing. Didn't even know what it was until last week.

A few years ago, I watched Death Note and loved it - took one look at its rabid fandom and it put me off the series for a long time. I still don't get the popularity of shows like K-ON, Haruhi and Lucky Star as none of them are particularly interesting to me, but to each their own.

>>4812850
I have all the evidence I need in solid, photographic glory, but as an anon stated earlier, I really don't want Germany cosplayers wearing Nazi flags, Nazi Germany cosplay at a Holocaust memorial ,and pictures of the graves of dead WW2 soldiers on my computer. Not even for 2 minutes.

>>4813082

Take a bunch of aspies who are already outcast for their hobbies and interests and try to tell them what to do.

Remember the last time you told a furry to cool it?

It's so predictable it hurts.

Same Hetalia fan here who asked for the examples.

I really do appreciate the comments and, while one fan can't apologize for the idiocy of her peers, I can at least promise to continue presenting my fandom in a positive light.

Even if the manga and anime are only loosely based on history, I think that's what makes the fandom so difficult to work with. Fans overexaggerate and characterize points in the series without realizing that history itself is real and needs to be respected, unlike the majority of other fandoms that are solely based on fantasy or science fiction. Just know that there are good fans out there, and we are doing our best to keep our images clean and act as role models for our peers. The constant negativity is a real downer.

>>4813063
Cool, I hope you're just as much of a prick to Death Note fans (OMG MATT WAS ONLY IN LIKE TWO PANELS GIVE IT A REST FANGIRLS!) and Touhou fans (OMG MOST OF THE CHARACTERS ONLY HAVE A FEW LINES OF DIALOGUE WHAT ARE YOU DOING FANBOYS!).

Just come out and say that you don't like the series, don't try to be a little shit and "justify" your dislike with a stupid argument.

>>4813107
I guess just do what I do. Don't let the bad fans bring you down, and don't let the negativity surrounding the bad fans bring you down. I mean, I get where you're coming from. It sucks to do things, like, go to /int/ and everywhere you turn people are trashing the shit out of your country. I guess just be secure in the fact that you know there are good fans, you know you're one of them, and don't be ashamed for liking what you like. I hate the shit the Hetalia fandom does, I hate having to look at it, I hate that stuff like that exists. I agree that it's a terrible fandom a lot of the time. But that doesn't mean I still don't love the comics, or the show for that matter.

>>4813143

I appreciate it. Truly.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to really explain your opinions, anons. It's good to see conversation instead of mindless opinion throwing.

>Harry Potter
Sure, I'm a massive Harry Potter fan. I'll dress up when i go to see the movies. But a few cosplayers really grind my gears. Last con i went to i saw somebody who looked like Harry, went over complimented them on their Harry costume. 'NO IM JAMES' and they storm off. Sorry that you look like Harry. Many of them can be sensible though.

>>4813143
This.

I am kind of sad when I see people that used to enjoy the show/comics with me jumping shit, but I suppose it happens.
and after the thing with Norway and I was seeing dA groups say things like STOP SUBMITTING THINGS ABOUT THE NORWAY ATTACK, WE WILL BAN YOU IF YOU DO, it just...makes me lose faith even more in the sanity of this fandom. It's sad.

>>4813177
>jumping ship*

sdakdf where did my other edit post go.

I'm a hetalia fan, and one of my best friends is. She drives me insane though, she always changes the topic to hetalia. ALWAYS.
I haven't told her about my con going yet, because if I do she'll want me to make her an Italy costume. Dammit.

Kuroshitsuji. I say this as a Kuroshit fan. Some truly batshit people in this fandom.

Very tl;dr. My bad.
Naruto was, and still in some place, the worst. The fans take some extremes. Hell, one of my friends had his leg broke by a hambeast that glomped him, because he was a "~supah kawii desu Suigetsu~" and she was a Karin. I'm shocked he didn't cave her head in with his cleaver. That aside, alot of the sane/saner fans tend to go to the shoots, get group pictures, or all the same characters and usually leave before the pairings start. That's the reason why I stopped trying to lead photoshoots, as I have been threatened because I didn't do "so and so's OTP and they'll kick my ass if I don't". Pulled a NOPE and got out of that as soon as I could. Maybe when all the fresh weebs get it out of their system, it can be somewhat better.
MLP..my god, I have never see so many man children gather around a computer to watch an amv of the ponies singing along to.. I think the amv was called Epic? Now, most the ones in person are quite nice, and much of the fandom is the same. It's just starting to near that level of weebness that we are all to well aware and afraid of.
Homestuck, I don't have much experience with the fanbase, other then getting hit in the face by Gamzee with one of the clubs. Now, I would have laughed it off, if for the fact that I didn't hear something crack, along with the pain and blood that followed. I'm not going to base this fandom on one account, but if you have a person thinking it's okay to go around and do this, how many more are out there, ya know? A friend wants me to be Equius for her group, but..I don't want to run into any Gamzee that might think it would be okay to try and strangle me with a bow string.

As for Hetalia, I've had a run in with some crazies, but I think most have moved onto newer, shinier things that they can vent their homolust into. And no, I don't want to become one with you, even if I am Russia. You are already nearly twice my size. Please no.

>>4813116
Chill out. You both have points. No one is a "fan" of those characters. On the other hand, people will dress up like those characters because they look the best out of all the Organization members, or have the best weapons.

But you WILL see more Axels ans Roxases than all other Org. members.

I first thought of Hetalia, but honestly, the Kuroshitsuji fandom tops it all with but no limiting to:

>Annoying Robins
>Annoying Grells
>High ratio of hambeast Grells
>Huge bawfest when omg Ciel's not going to be in Black Butler II?!
>In-character tiem/be mysterious omg
>Not read the manga
>Omg Kuroshitsuji is so deep
>Yaoi

>>4813050
>I deem these shows bad
>Therefore it's FACT and anyone who likes them are immature
Yeah, I'd have to disagree on that one. Stop being such a cunt.

>>4806592
>>4808665
>>4808860
Agree, and
-The fandom flips its shit over the weirdest things

-It's a lot of circlejerking over the same people in the fandom >the same pictures/fics get posted over and over in blogs and /y/

-It's hard as hell to be accepted or treated with even slight respect if you are not a popular artist/BNF that has already been establish in that fandom a couple years ago

-They flip their shit over any style of art that isn't realistic (despite the canon being cartoony)

-Yaoi crazed (but don't you dare use the word "yaoi" in their fandom): Genderbends are not allowed/well accepted...because "YOU CAN'T FIGHT IN HEELZ!" Yet is is perfectly fine to draw the guys in heels and slutty outfits (Example: an artist *had* to apologize to the fandom for some genderbent pinups they did).

-And finally, the rumors! Oh god the rumors that each BNF member enjoy spreading about one another if you dare not agree with, or like, something they produced.

All con fandoms are bad.

Don't even give me any "NO MY FANDOM IS GOOD ONLY X FANDOM BLAH BALH" shit. They all suck. All of them. No exceptions.

Am I seriously one of the few sane Kuroshit fans...? Are they all as psycho as you all say? I've fortunately never really encountered any besides one of my friends, and she feels the same way I do...

>>4816134
NO MY FANDOM IS GOOD ONLY X FANDOM BLAH BALH.

Generally that's the truth, but for smaller fandoms they're generally better because less people = less chance for fags. Basically it's the It got popular so it sucks now rule.

Supernatural.
There's an ongoing WAR between the general "Destiel" and "Wincest" fans and everything is wank.

There's also Rabid Eric/Sookie fangirls from True Blood