I met this girl at university through some mutual friends. We never really clicked, but I was nice to her and she was civil to me (at least to my face). We would talk about lolita sometimes, and even though I never saw her wearing it, she assured me that she had been into lolita since the ice age.

Then one day I saw her at a local con. She was wearing this neon yellow dress with black raschel lace. It was so wrinkled and the skirt was way too short. She looked like she was cosplaying a trashy bumblebee, not wearing lolita. I went up to talk to her, but she blew me off, and later on I heard she was talking about me behind my back. Whatever, at least I wasn't a hot mess.

>>4731426
For the record, the porn artist was pretty cool.

>>4731426
Oh, I forgot. I get bonus points because she thought she was pr0lita.

Bump for ita goodness.

I haven't really "met" that many that were obnoxious. I've seen a few at a distance in conventions, but most of the girls I've met who were poorly dressed were perfectly well behaved. They just had the misfortune of being sucked in by Milanoo or eBay based false promises.

Online, though. I've run into plenty online. Lemme see if I can find photos/posts.

Okay. Going to start with this chick. Her name is Adrian, or Bunny, and she has an etsy:

http://www.etsy.com/shop/CraftyLittleBunny/

This most recent photo of her doesn't look TOO TOO horrible (in spite of the slipping petticoat, the giant ric rack, the "mini beret" and so on), but ... lord. Have a look at her Photobucket some time:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/GorillazFan_photos/

She can't sew for shit but thinks that she's God's gift to lolita seamstresses. All of her garments, including those sold on her Etsy, are made using low-thread-count discount quilter's cotton. She was in shock when, on a recent trip to a large fabric store, she spent "nearly $100 in materials." Lately, she's also taken to making garments out of threadbare bedsheets from the 80s, found in garage sale bins.

When offered critique on her garments, she has tons of excuses and refuses any and all advice. For example: when she makes a dress, it always has a lack of tailoring/seams on bodice. When anyone asks her about this, she insists it's because she's pregnant and wears them baby-doll.

... yet she's been constructing her bodices as sausage-tubes since before she got pregnant. And has been selling dresses like that for months.

i'm not really sure if she was trying to be a lolita or a sexy maid, but i'll post it anyway.

i was eating pizza and people watching at akon when i saw this girl shuffling into the hallway by herself, her shoes barely hanging onto her feet by her toes. she had a black 'lolita maid' dress on, and it was COVERED in cheap white lace. her stockings were falling down. she had 'neko' ears on, accompanied by a collar and leash. she was also carrying a sign asking for people to be her master.

so this girl walked up to a big black guy who was taking pictures of the jester/joker/idfk character from AC:B, and handed him her leash with a 'nyaaaa.' both the jester and the guy just stop and look at her. she continues to 'nyaaa' the jester starts laughing because this poor guy just don't know how to handle this. eventually the jester takes out his camera and starts taking pictures of the guy looking at the leash like it's a leeching parasite. the girl puts on her shoes and attaches herself onto the unsuspecting black man and poses like the sexy kawaii maid neko she thinks she is. she then walks away. everyone laughs.

pic isn't of her, but the dress looked somewhat like this if i'm remembering correctly.

>>4731537
I've seen that picture before. I hoped I'd never see it again.

>>4731537
is ... is that a drug user in lolita?

MOAR

Not sure if this is relevant, but I've got a few friends that usually aren't all that bad (they're my friends, after all...) but don't seem to understand the concept of lolita as anything more than particularly lacy maid outfits. What really bugs me is when they complain about paying 80 dollars for an outfit, or add a pair of those cat ear things and call it "neko lolita".

It's that time? Yeah, it's ita time!

>>4731644

Time to get the fire.

>>4731652

This makes me want to die.

the girl on the left uhh she's the worst

so kawaii desu~

er, sort of an ita story. My friends were applying for AA at a local con, and some of the stuff they were selling they marketed as "sweet lolita jewelry." These consisted of:

>bracelets made of blue-violet floral parchment paper, with cheap black or white lace, secured with thin silver cord.
>necklaces made of purple/green cord with 4 or 5 purple/green beads, and a miniature bottle filled with sequins and glitter
>cell phone charms with the same purple/green cord and beads but had a ceramic owl bead at the end
>gothic style fashion scarf made of sheer frayed fabrics sewn together (which looked pretty cool but never should be called any kind of lolita)

Then they couldn't understand why they didn't get in.

This makes me cry a little inside.

>watermelons in my lolita?

My comm, dare I to call it that, is nothing but 19-25 year old high-school-weeb annoyances.

No good stories in particular, but the head one, as I like to think her, is a black chick whose first [and only lolita she's worn out to date] is that classic blackxwhite lacy catastrophe...

wait for it,

from Milanoo.

Oh, and my boyfriends least favorite tries to make all her own. She ends up looking like she's wearing grandma's clothes, and not even in the "couch print" way.

>>4731669

The fuck.

I met the queen of itas at ALA

True story

A Question, and this is loosely related to itas...

I mod a DA lolita group, and it's basically my job to keep the lolitas in and the itas out. This was submitted to my group, and I denied it because the skirts were too short for lolita.

The artist replied back with "they're just holding their skirts up"

I still think they're too short though. Opinions?

>>4731662
I don't see anything wrong with her. Not everyone need a wig.

>>4731692
Ba dum tish.

This is just... unfortunate.

>>4731699

diff anon here, but that was the only thing i liked, the hair. She could look good in classic. but her cheap looking sweet dress makes it look ita.

>>4731697
that seems reasonable that you didn't let it in
they're holding the skirts up to the side not the front so if they weren't holding them, the skirts would still be too short

plus those look like kawaii desu maids to me, not lolitas

>>4731709
IDK, I dig that head to toe old school AP look.

>>4731717

I bet she'd look double as sweet in mary magdalene.
but anyway, not hatin' on that picture, she doesn't look ita to me, i'm just not too fond of the dress.

>>4731686
sauce on this pic? the one on the left kind of looks like someone i know...

>>4731717
as do i, sis.

>>4731709

that's no cheap ita dress, it's AP

>>4731731
>makes it LOOK ita.

never said it WAS ita.

Self-posting.

Yeah...I used to be this bad. I think of it and it brings me great shame.

>>4731760
can we see a newer co-ordinate?

>>4731697

ugh deviantart and lolitas, i've only seen crap there. please show me at least one thing that can only be found at deviantart ( which hasn't been posted on egl ) that is actually good.

>>4731761
I'm OK with personal taste and all but I don't think you should be defending the person who said she looked ita. I don't like OTT sweet as much as classic or gothic but I wouldn't call a girl in well coordinated Sugary Carnival ita.

>>4731727
sauce? seriously, it's eating me up inside.

or can anyone at least recognize the con badges?

>>4731662
there were girls MUCH more ita then her at that convention, if I had pics, I would show you

she isn't even ita at all I do agree that she would look great in classical though

>>4731765
Haha, okay. There's a picture I posted on d_l a few days ago. I'm on the right.

Nowadays I'm just your pretty generic sweet lolita.

>>4731819 oh I remember that! I thought you both looked cute

I wore pink ugg's (well not actual Ugg boots but Ugg-style) with a coord once and posted it to D_L. I wish I hadn't done that. In my defense it was late December in the midwest and I was only going to a family gathering and didn't have anything else to protect my tootsies from the snow, but I probably should have put different shoes on just the for the pics. And by probably I mean definitely.

i was so ita that it it hurts.
i don't know why i thought i looked so awesome parading around like that at my first meet-up.

>>4731835
If this is a before and after picture then I think you still have A LOT of room for improvement. You're definitely not 'straight up' ita any more, but for the outfit on the right (assuming you're in red):

-the pink socks peeking out, take them off
-fishnet/lace tights, gotta go
-hair, try a different style, some thing that frames your face better, or wear a wig
-the umbrella/'parasol', your dress is a VM replica (classic lolita) and does not go with hello kitty
-mini hat (?), bad idea

>>4731819
dat knee

Before and after thread now?

>>4731697
Can you reject images based on quality? Because holy shit my eyes.

Does this look ita to anon? I just can't bring myself to a conclusion.

>>4731864
thank you, i know there's wlays room for improvment and i'm wlays looking to get better and better...
i'm still fairly new to lolita. i'm just trying to get a little more refined in one style.

>sock got to go
noted

>stockings got to go
i have really knocky knees and i don't like them showing, i prefer to wear fishnets/stockings so they're not showing.

>try wearing a wig
i am wearing a wig in that picture, i actually have boyishly short hair. i do have a longer more flattering wig i will be wearing more often, though!

>parasol
noted, but it was scheduled to rain that day i just had it one hand for the sun/rain. but i will get a nicer parsol.

>mini hat
it's a rose headband, i just wanted to do something more with my hair. i'll figure out something nicer to do.

that you for the advice!

>>4731883
sorry anon but I think it is
It seems a bit too short, weird lace/ribbons, and that collar... idek what's going on there

>>4731897
>that you for the advice
>thank you for the advice

>>4731883
I'm agreeing with >>4731901, sorry. Also I bought from Anna House before - the lace was shitty and the fabric was thin. All of my regret~

>>4731883
I think that dress is really cute.

>Then again, I'm not a lolita.

>>4731919
Having owned one, given the right co-ordination, do you believe there is a way to save it from being ita?

>>4731940

Owned as in Anna House, not that specific dress in pic.

>>4731897
You're welcome! I think solid black or non-fishnet, crochet stockings will be better. I agree that you should not go bare legged. Maybe brush out/style the bangs of the wig so they suit your face better? Blunt bangs and side-swept bangs are popular, so experiment and see what works for you. As for parasols I think a black and an off-white/cream one are wardrobe staples for classic lolitas. They are easy to coordinate with everything. Is that a rose corsage on a headband? Then I think it should be OK. Maybe it will look better once you re-style your wig. Oh and I just noticed the boots. I think some elegant wine coloured high heels will look better, but the boots are not terrible per say.

>>4731948
mm wine colored heels... that would complete that outfit so well.

Oh those poor boots, i scuffed them so bad at that event when i went face first into the pavement. i haven't worn them since...

i've been eyeing one of VM parasol's for months now, it will be mine eventually.

>>4731940
Maybe if you coordinated it super well it would be cute and not ita, but IDK something looks "off" to me but I can't put my finger on it. I just think you could get much cuter dresses for similar prices at other places (esp on taobao stores like Dear Celine etc). But if you're 100% in love with it, then perhaps you could try to save it :)

>>4731880
I'd love to post a before and after shot of myself but I'm terrified of getting ripped to pieces... My after stuff that is, I know my before stuff is god awful.
I admire those of you who have the confidence to selfpost.

>>4731824
Thank you! I don't often like wearing OPs because there's only a limited amount of things you can do with them (especially in the summer when undershirts & cardigans are unwise), but I love this dress too much.

>>http://forums.lolitafashion.org/
>>???
>>Profit.

>>4731972

this is exactly how I thought of it. I think it would look good in the hands of a good coordinator, but it could veer into ita territory really easily, really fast!

proceed with caution?

>>4731972

Thanks anon :) Have some hope now, since it is already too late...... :D

it took me so damn long to actually buy lolita clothing that my ita stage was more of "adjusting to lolita fashion rules of coordination" than anything else. never had a lace monster, but I did wear a blue and white outfit with black patent leather mary janes. People thought I looked like Alice and maybe if I'd owned the petticoat I have now back then, it might have been alright (I've seen similarly colored coordinates done to great effect) but I was not experienced enough in coordinating to attempt that.

I still never have any idea of what to do with my hair, in and out of lolita. it's part of why I keep it longer because it's thick and wavy and I tend to have more bad hair days than not with short hair.

>>4731983
oh god I can't hold down my lunch

One of my friends is kind of an ita. She said she had liked lolita for a long time before we even met a couple of years ago and that she was excited when she learned that I was into it too. However then she showed me pictures of her "lolita" coords... and they kind of looked like this pic, no kidding:
>>4731537
Not as dirty-looking but yeah, she had the fishnet armwarmers and all that fuckery going on. I kind of tried to nudge her to the right direction by letting her borrow my GLBs and showing her websites etc, I was thrilled when one day she said she'd like to split a BL order with me. I showed her some nice starter pieces I thought she'd like and she soon ordered our crap.

Turned out she had actually picked all the other pieces I mentioned (blouse, socks, accessories) but changed the JSKs I showed to pic related. It doesn't look that bad in the picture and was considerably better than what she wore before but it was still pretty horrible IRL. Since I didn't want to push my tastes on her any further after that she's just now gone back to buying GLP and K-Star off ebay and calling it "gothic punk loli".

She's a sweet girl but kind of a lost cause.

>>4731789
Ohayocon badge.
And from the looks of it, I'm guessing 2009/2010

>>4732011
there there anon. You tried and that's what matters.
I've been talking to a lost cause lately and oh god....it's just so tragic.

>>4732010
At least this girl admitted that It was a fail

man, when I went to my first meetup I was so ita. It was honestly embarrassing. Then I realized I looked bad and I didn't come back (i was posted on /cgl/ for my bad outfit) Now I'm better looking, know how to style myself, and I have nice clothing, and I want to try meeting people again, but I'm nervous and wary still. I also feel awkward since it's been so long. What should i do?

>>4732044

sounds like you're just gonna have to bite the bullet and try going again.

if you think it would help any, post a coordinate you'd wear to a meet here! since you were posted here for a bad outfit before, we can help you improve it now before you potentially make an ass out of yourself again.

but most of all, try not to beat yourself up- I know it's harder than it sounds, but it's important. remember that most of us had an ita stage, and for some people it took them years to grow out of it- some people never have and are totally oblivious to the fact that they look like a hot mess! at least you're aware now.

>>4732044
I would just go. To be honest, there are a couple of girls in my community who have been posted here by others because their outfits aren't (or weren't) the best, and I don't give a shit. They're nice people and that's all that matters. At most meetups and in most situations, that's all that matters.

I brought this girl to a meet up once, and she embarrassed me so badly. She wore this asymmetrical black and white Bodyline skirt with an oversized Rush band t-shirt. She also wore a black pinstriped Fedora that had a chain on it, circle rose tinted sunglasses, black and white striped footless tights and flats. She wouldn't talk to ANYONE at the meet, and later on acted like the other lolitas were snobby for not talking to her. She told me that she didn't think any of the other lolitas knew who Rush was, and they wouldn't get her t-shirt.

I'm so sorry, girls. I never should have brought her...

>>4732109

D8

>>4731662

Am I missing something here?

>>4731537
i like the boots though

>>4732122
>D8
get out.

>>4731768

>>4731727
yeah, girl on left looks like my boyfriend's ex
yikes

>>4732109
Please tell me you have pictures of this outfit.

>>4732011

Aww.

I remember running into my old friend from grade school through the internet (we went to different high schools at the time), and I saw a photo of her wearing a fairly infamous wa-lolita dress from eBay (I don't have any pictures and I'm using a shared computer; sorry). It turns out that she's loved the fashion as long as I have, but never bothered to do much research over the years. Although she's not great at hiding her power level, at least she did improve from before.

>>4732018
Oh thank you! And whew, me and that girl live no where near Ohayocon and she'd have no means to get there.

>>4732162
>>4732122
I only managed to find one, since she left early, but you can see her on the left.

>>4732237
I... what...

Everything I have ever seen Anne post is so ita.

>>4732237
what. i have no face.

>>4732237

holy shit.

she reminds me of my weeb best friend in middle school.

>>4732237
Did anyone try to tell her she looked like shit?

>>4732237

I lol'd, she looks like a girl I used to work with who wore those FUCKING glasses all the damn time. inb4 she was colourblind, she wasn't, she just thought they looked SUPA KAWAII.

http://forums.lolitafashion.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7462&start=0
>"My prom was last night, and I wore a kimono-inspired lolita dress :) I was going to wear a petticoat with it, but I ended up taking it off, as it didn't look quite right, it just made me look fat
The dress is Bodyline"
I don't have anything against bodyline but god this one looks terrible

>>4732237

Is she from England? She looks exactly like someone I see around uni...

>>4732438
would have looked ten times better with a petti and black stockings...

>>4732438
>my prom was last night
>my prom
>prom

i'm way jellly, my senior year's prom theme was lavender and lace. i didn't want to go because i didn't have a boyfriend.

The girl I was talking about is from UK. Midlands. Her name's Caroline. Freakin' weird. Maybe that's her? They're pretty much the same.

>>4732512
This was meant for>
>>4732440

>>4732500

man, I went to both my junior and senior proms alone. I just wanted to wear pretty dresses.

>>4732528
i was the single friend among couples.
wasn't diggin' on that vibe, man.

>>4732546

oh, I can understand that then.

the two kids I hung out with were single too. actually, come to think of it, neither of them went to prom. Who the hell did I spend that time with??

>>4732512

Does she go to Bristol for uni?! If so SHE NEVER TAKES THOSE GLASSES OFF, NOT EVER.

>>4732500
I went with my cousin, it was his prom and he didn't have a date. I am home schooled so I figured, hey this way I get a prom. I ended up making a lot of friends and it was in the same building as the convention I was going to that weekend. So when we got bored of dancing, we went and looked at cosplay then went back.

>>4732594
Wow. No she doesn't, she's in Leicester... CAROLINE HAS A FUCKING TWIN? Oh god save us.
It COULD be the same person, she is known to visit her uni age relatives and lie, saying she's been at fuckoff parties all weekend when actually she's been tagging along after her poor cousins.

>>4731534
Her cats are ADORABLE!

hi guys, I'm buying my first lolita dress right now.
how do you know which lolita is "ita" and which is now? I don't wanna be called ita because I don't know the "rules"
pic related, the dress I'm buying.

>>4733102
HNNNG.
good first time buy.

how are you going to coord it?

>>4733110
thought about buying matching head-bow and socks from BTSSB, and those shoes (bodyline because I don't have money left for brand shoes:)
http://www.bodyline.co.jp/bodyline/showProduct.asp?id=2262&pageNumber=1&pageStop=stop_14&
;noSubType=N

and have no idea about a bag...any ideas for matching bag?

>>4733161
Any simple black or white purse would do. Personally, I'd pair it with a black blouse and carry a black bag with a white bow or charm attached.

>>4733161

nice purchase!

don't forget socks/stockings and accessories. :) make sure your hair and makeup look nice and clean too.

>>4733102
I didn't answer this because I assumed troll. Did you seriously think that might be ita?

>>4733102
That is a very very good first time buy. I'm proud, anon.

For knowing what is ita and is not ita...I would just look at lots of pictures of good coordinates. Lurk daily_lolita, egl, look at the scans of the new GLBs (posted in jmagazinescans). Probably the best thing I can recommend is "The Best of Daily_Lolita" tumblr: http://dailylolita.tumblr.com/. http://www.fyeahlolita.com/ also a lot of good information for people that are new.

Good luck! :)

>>4733196
A new lolita once asked me if Iron Gate was ita because she'd heard that black x white was an ita color combo. After that, I always assume that people genuinely want help because they don't know.

>>4733196

I don't know.. I've seen dollhouse of angelic pretty that I like in this thread and you guys called it ita..
so just asked to make sure I'm not doing something wrong.

>>4733261
I meant dreamy dollhouse

>>4733255
Sadly. And then the various iterations of the handbook that strictly dictate skirt length, color combos, lace type, etc... It's crazy. Remember the girl who thought AP's lace was bad because it was net, not crochet, lace? She posted to EGL a couple of weeks ago, IIRC, and when I asked why she would ever thing that she was shocked and said she'd read that crochet lace was the only good lace.

Sometimes I miss ye olde days. There was more shitty shit, but at least people weren't saying black x white make you an ita or skirts above the knee make you a slut.

Is it okay to piggyback off the other anon and ask for advice? I'm also about to buy my first dress. I've been told it looks better in person than in the stock photo, but I wanted to make sure whether or not the weird print was worth the chance.

black x white is the best combo. if the amount of bxw dresses I see gets reduced due to this faggotry I am going to be a sad panda.

>>4733813
Best or not, it's easiest to mess up. Because of the contrast with all the details, it's easier to see when cheap materials are used.

which faggotry do you speak of? Nothing in this thread is something that hasn't been said before.

>>4733813

it already has been, sis. we generally try to steer noobies away from it because it takes a bit of a more experienced eye to tell exactly what makes a good bxw dress and a terrible one.

>>4733261

there's an important lesson to learn here- someone can be ita wearing brand. it's all about how you wear it/coordinate it.

I think I'm going to go put together a picture of how to ita-up a brand JSK and then how to wear it effectively.

>>4733800
are you slim, short, flat-chested and a skintone that looks like natural photoshopping? no? then it will make you look like you're trying to hide a pregnancy.

just sayin'.

>>4733800

I hate this sort of silhouette. Doesn't flatter the waist or tummy at all.

>>4733849
>>4733837
I'm actually on the heavier side, so would that make it worse? I've accepted the fact that no matter what I wear I'm not going to look slender, but I'm not sure if it will balloon me or if I'll just look like a chubby girl in a dress.

>>4733899

oh man, if you're on the chubby side at ALL I'd recommend avoiding dresses cut like this.

chubby girls should wear things that define the waist, not hide them.

>>4733899
1. pick a different dress.
2. get a corset. a tight one. "oh no it hurts"? suck it up.

>>4733931

actually, a well fitting corset *shouldn't* hurt. it's going to be snug, and a hell of a lot more constricting than the clothing we're used to, but it shouldn't cause pain unless you're wearing it wrong or it doesn't fit right.

>>4733937
I know, but it's the standard response I get whenever I make that recommendation.

It *is* uncomfortable, and people aren't willing to suffer for a dress these days. still, it's the only thing that works short of crash diets and plastic surgery.

I know a few ita's in my community... but they're just too /nice/ to make fun of, really. Compared to some of the "good" lolis, they're incredibly sweet and just so darn eager to improve that it makes me go "aww" more than "ew". Still look like they had a fight with their wardrobe and lost (even after the more experienced girls give them pointers), but ultimately nice girls. Anyone else experience this?

Welp, there goes my backup dress as well. I know I've seen some dresses that I like witg defined waists, though, so the hunt continues!

>>4733931

Do you have any recommendations as far as where to find a decent corset?

>>4733994
dunno. I got mine off ebay and it's decent, but it's luck of the draw there.

>>4733899
Just say no. I'm not trying to be mean, but an empire waist, or anything high-waisted, will add thirty pounds IRL and fifty in photos.

>>4733967
Yes! But to be honest, I have zero problems with them. They're fun to be around and they always want help on making their outfits better, and to be honest it's a bit of an ego boost that I'm slowly helping an ita turn into a real lolita.

>>4733948

that is some trufax right there.

I hear that Timeless trends tends to be a good one for pre-made corsets, not custom. although if your body type is odd, you may want to get one custom.

>>4733967

itas that take constructive criticism and actually try to improve are not itas to me- they're noobs, and god bless them. they always give me so much hope!

Ugh. I was an accidental ita, and I'm terrified the pictures will end up on this site. I hope they stay buried deep in people's cameras.

My friends and I bought these cute little headpieces, and they told me "The last day of the con, we're all gonna wear these and have awesome outfits! I already know exactly what I'm gonna wear!" So I spent the next week trying to coordinate things from my closet to work with this random headpiece. It happened to have a lot of lace, and it was black and white, and my friends convinced me to carry around my Disneyland parasol. I never intended it to be anywhere near lolita, but someone could easily have taken it that way.

So basically, day of the con comes where we're supposed to do this, and my friends didn't do it. And avoided me like the plague so they wouldn't have to deal with the shame of admitting they didn't. It was really awkward.

>>4733800 here. I'm okay with choosing a dress with a different cut, but can I assume since no one commented on the print itself that I'm not out of my mind for thinking it's cute? There's a jsk with a different cut and same print that I kind of like.

>>4734164

Pffft my greentext

>>4734164

I kinda dig the print. it's kinda out there, sure, but I like it.

it's like a postcard print right? it would probably be really cute with that envelope purse I see floating around.

>>4734191

Yeah, it's a postcard print. I should look up the purse you mentioned, that sounds cute.

>>4734216
The envelope purse is AP and adorable. I think the print itself is fine, if a little quirky.

>>4734191
>>4734216

or with BTSSB Strawberry Letters print?

>>4732147

Agree, but she can't be the only one...

>>4734362
Haha duuude I'm always worried about that.

>>4734450

:O I love that print!

brb looking it up

>>4734450

that is almost definitely the dress that Bodyline is knocking off with the postcard print, haha. the cut of one of the JSKs is very similar.

>>4731691
I just feel sad when I see this picture.

>Meet a friend of friend at a local con who is also into lolita
>She's kind of condescending and a know it all, wearing an ita-tastic lace monster, but we were all noobs once, whatever
>She asks me where my dress is from, I tell her it's from BtSSB
>She says hers is from BtSSB too, and that she got it for a deal on Ebay
>Her dress is obviously not BtSSB, so I tell her that I don't recognize it, and maybe it's a different brand?
>She tells me that I need to do more research on lolita and recommends that I read Kamikaze Girls
>mfw I see her bitching on FB that she got ripped off on Ebay with her "replica" dress

Does anyone else hate all the sympathy itas get? I can't stand hearing "If they're not calling it lolita, why do you care if the lace is cheap and it doesn't follow the rules? Maybe they like that look, and they should be able to wear whatever they want!"

There's a reason why. Because this looks like shit. It looks fucking terrible and they should feel bad for looking that terrible. And don't give me "All lolitas look stupid to people who don't know the fashion!" There is a difference between ita crap and a Victorian Maiden dress.

I have a story if anyone is interested, more of an ita/weeaboo story

>>4736339
Interested, carry on, sir.

>>4736339
Do it now. Tell us.

Saw this wonderful creature at London MCM Expo

>>4736374
Those shoes are pretty cute though, anyone know sauce?

>>4736336
I agree with this.

This girl at my school is overweight, greasy, and unattractive. She thinks she can pull off wa-loli, needless to say she can't. She ordered this hideous... thing offline. It was made out of black halloween costume material with red butterflies (I think it's from bodyline, one of their misses) and the "underskirt" gave it no volume at all. Not to mention it barely fit her. She also wore it with striped tights and balck tennishoes. It was horrible.
Sorry don't have pics. you're probably better off that I don't.

>>4736374
Oh God, she was sitting near us just before the Harry Potter photoshoot started. Me and my friend just looked at her then exchanged horrified looks.

>>4736406

>>Liek, OMG! O.O

This one girl at my HS wore Hot Topic "lolita" every day, but tied her hair into 4 pigtails like that one Naruto character. She also wore a black veil everyday. I wish I had taken a picture.

>>4731662
what the name of the dress on the far right?

>>4736499
Angelic Pretty Jewellery Jelly OP in mint.

>>4736374
The dude on his cell to the right is exactly MFW.

>>4736426
How the fuck did their post translate into that? GTFO.

Is a kodona story ok? I saw a Lolita who might have been cute (she was far away) who was with a girl kodona that was looking like shit. The outfit didn't fit right and looked sloppy and plain like she put no effort in it. Her hair looked wet (how do you call it when it's stuck to your head?) too and I think it was dyed some horrible patchy color orange?

She was being really very loud. She talked bad about some of the goods in the store right in front of the people who worked there and was even a little mean to the Lolita who was with her! I could hear all she said even if I was across the store or up looking at shoes. The woman who worked with shoes didn't look happy with that girl and she tried on clothes that were too small. I wanted to say hi but I was afraid to come near. (Sorry my bad english =A=;;;)

>>4736388
They're Montreal, you can probably buy them from Linglam or Refuse to Be Usual on eBay

>>4732009
>>4732009
I've been stalking/following the fashion for six years, and am only buying my first brand dress now. I /knew/ I wouldn't be able to coordinate anything properly before, my style was a complete mess! Plus, since I'm not 13/14 like when I first started admiring it, I can afford full coords, and keep my "normal" style up to date as well.
I hated that one month this year when egl had an in & out of lolita theme. Sooo many girls were alright in lolita, but couldn't dress themselves to save their lives!

I still can't style my hair properly though....thank god for normal looking wigs.

>>4736591
Where are you from? I think I might know the Kodona with the shitty attitude and orange hair.

I'd go to a goth shop in atl before I moved and whenever I was in there, there was at least one ita. Most of them were anywhere from sixteen to freshmen in college who thought they knew what they were talking about and try and be rude to the employees or talk shit about the merch like in >>4736591. Although, I saw one who looked in her mid thirties. Two girls who couldn't have been older than 17 were once talking shit about a male employee over in the corner and talking about what a bad "prince" he made. He wasn't even trying to do aristocrat. The guy just dressed in Victorian clothes and was actually really cool.

Once, I was wearing an a-line skirt and a blouse because I had just popped in from work and these two chubby girls that were in dresses that were way too short and covered in lace came up to me and said in a kind of snotty voice that I needed to button up my blouse and wear a skirt with lace if I wanted to be a proper Lolita. I told them that wasn't what I was going for and one of the girls sneered "Good." or some bullshit. They continued to give me the evil eye until they left. I know they were kids and all, but their behavior was still ridiculous.

I hated the georgia lolitas for a long time before I met some of the girls who were actually in the local community and knew what they were talking about. A few if them were sort of awkward or weird, but most of them were pretty sweet overall. I only met one who looked halfway decent that was a total bitch but I think she was the girlfriend of one of the other girls.

>>4736653
What the actual fuck. I hate people like this, they give the rest of us a bad name.

>>4736668
Yeah but not to worry. I got to know the other girls and like I said most of them turned out to be pretty cool. There was one girl that was freaking adorable and was wearing a yellow dress but I moved before I got to see her again.

>>4736374

Actually, I saw her too and I don't think she was trying to be a lolita, more like "deco-maid" or something.

>>4736374

>>4736880
>see thumbnail
>think it's Honey Picnic by Glorious Metamorphose
>click
>it's Honey Cake instead
Oh, thank God.

Cosplayfag here, what's an ita?

>>4736927
http://www.fyeahlolita.com/2009/10/how-to-avoid-being-ita.html

Tl;dr, a person who is trying to wear lolita fashion, but not doing it right. :X

>>4736927
a terrible lolita

>>4733102

Non lolita asking, what brand is that?

>>4736927
It's from the Japanese word "itai," or painful. It's basically a lolita who's painful to look at.

>>4736955
Baby, the Stars Shine Bright

>>4736957
Baby the Stars Shine Bright
http://hellolace.net/wardrobe/baby-the-stars-shine-bright/type/jsk/item/99/