If it's still easily recognized as the character in question then it's all good.

>>4658931
I don't like making slutty versions of things, though.

in my opinion, there's nothing wrong with them as long as they are not made solely for the point of having tits hanging out (since 99% of the time its girls turning male characters female)

too many girls take the outfit, give the character a tiny skirt, and a shirt that gives them the ability to have their tits hanging out. OPs picture isn't too bad really - it's outfits that suit the characters and they actually look like themselves.

Genderbent is my guilty pleasure.

This is just my two cents, but when it comes to cosplay genderbending always seems like just an excuse to cut corners on a costume.
"I don't feel like binding my chest or going around with no eye make-up on. Time to give InuYasha a vagina!"
:/
I'm starting to feel this way about genderbent fanart too. It was kinda funny about six years ago, but now it's too overdone and sometimes the artists take so many liberties with the design changes I'm like, "why not just make your own damn character and stop piggy-backing off popular shit?"
(this is also starting to apply to gijinka because you can't take two steps at a con without bumping into Bikini Pikachu, but I digress.)

>>4658955
There was this genderbent Justice League group that was wonderful... I need to find some pics.

Don't mind me posting a few pictures.

>>4658978
Okay, found a more complete picture.

Genderbending is one of my biggest pet peeves. Mostly because it is done extremely poorly. Also, its generally an attention whore attempt made by females.

>>4658985

>>4658985
Oh damn, "Lelan" is actually kinda hot.

>>4658978

Still looks like an excuse for the girls to show off their tits.
If you're gonna put that much work into a costume, why not try cosplaying a character that you actually resemble? :I

>>4658994

>>4659000

>>4659005

>>4658997
not everyone can crossplay and look good in it. for example, that female green lantern is WAY too curvy to every pull off a guy in a spandex suit. not speaking for other characters, but in the justice leagues situation, the male characters are also super buff, which not a lot of females are.

i agree, though - a lot of people do genderbending to cut corners and look slutty.

>>4658955
ahh. i just don't really have a manly figure though. i have tried binding down, but it only gets down to about a B cup. i'd rather not have my tits hanging out, but i'd still love to cosplay as my favorite character. just in a modest way.

i do understand the frustration though. i'd rather not see more underaged girls in skanky and awfully made costumes. seeing bras covered in glued on yellow felt is not something i enjoy.

Personally, I like it. Considering it suits the character and is well done. I really like the art in OP's pic, it really suits the characters.

But when you see a girl put on a red bikini and white wig and say "I'm girl Inuyasha" or some shit it's stupid.

tl;dr I really enjoy it when it's in character and hate it when it's just slutty.

>>4659009

>>4659014
Uh.... you DO realize there is a Green Lantern Corps and there ARE Female Green Lanterns, yes?

>>4659009
I-Is that Girlston?
I think I just turned into a lesbian.

>>4659026
Last one, my collection is... very small.

Personally, I hate genderbending. I find it really unneeded.

If you like a show and want to show others that you like that show, pick a male/female character on it.
If you love a particular character a fuckton, put in the effort to look good while crossplaying as them. Simple as that.

Only exceptions are when, in the official cannon, the characters actually become genderbent for whatever reason. Then I think it's cool to see variation, mostly because then people can't fuck with the costume- the genderbent version is something the original creator made, with all of the character's quirks and personality in mind. But otherwise? Genderbending is just making a fanmade design for a character, and I really don't see the point in pouring money into that sort of thing when you could show so much more love to a character (by actually being recognizable) by putting the effort in to crossplay them well.

>>4659027
But which of the female lanterns? Otherwise she looks like a generic green lantern. Off the top of my head I know Arisa, Jade, and Soranik. Don't remember any other significant female lanterns

>>4659027
i didnt realize that, no. never said i was a huge fan of green lantern, just pointing something out to anon. no need to get your panties in a twist~!

I agree with the "Okay if it's well done, absolutely not if it's slutty" sentiment.

I would love to see this Professor Layton, but if I saw some skank in an orange bikini and brown coat and top hat, I might have to slap a bitch.

>>4659070
And one more genderbend pic for good measure.

Only if it's possible in the series... Like Naruto for instance, or Rama 1/2.

I like some DBZ genderswaps

>>4659055
There is also Anya, Boodikka, Alex, and many others through out Green Lantern history. Also the Green Lantern Corps makes it really easy to make up your own OC in the Universe.

>>4659069
Then maybe you shouldn't comment on something you know shit about as if you know what you're talking about.

>>4659147
LOL Anons getting butthurt over someone not knowing animu facts. Story of your life /cgl/

>>4659070
>mfw imagining professor layton in a bikini.

>>4659156

>>green lantern
>>animu

>>4658997
>>4659014

Just so you guys are aware....there IS a Genderbent world in the DC multiverse. So this one isn't that far fetched. Pretty sure the male Black Canary design of that world is similar to this one.

Whatever... doesn't change the fact you're still butthurt over stupid shit.

>>4659156
>Green Lantern
>anime

Boy, it's a good thing you read the comments before posting, or you'd look like a huge moron, huh?

>>4659174
Like I previously stated. I really don't give a shit. Doesn't change the fact that people are getting mad over stupid shit... oh wait.

>>4659168

Okay okay okay okay. DC shit aside, whatabout shit like Hetalia? Or InuYasha?

...or...

...the mother of all weeb magnets...

...Kingdom Hearts?
Don't you just ADORE those curvy Axels who shove their clevage in your face? :I

>>4659183
Genderbent =/= "Hey, I'm lazy and I don't want to bind, I'm going as female [character]!" Nobody in this thread is for that.

also:
>kingdom hearts
>mother of all weeb magnets

It's a cycle, bro. The weebs from Inuyasha went to Fushugi Yugi went to Kingdom Hearts went to Hetalia went to Vocaloid went to Homestuck. Keep up, there's always a new "worst fandom ever".

As an art thing, people often go overboard and completely reimagine the character, but they can easily slap on a bit of text saying "This is <male character> as a female"

As cosplay, some people just don't seem to get that not everyone is browsing the same fan art, and they'll do a really cool design, but no one will have any fucking clue who they are supposed to be.

It's made even worse when they get some fucking fashion bug up their ass and decide to do the entire design themselves to the point where they are just making shit up and it might as well just be an original character design costume. And what's the fucking point in that?

It's actually preferrable if a pretty just just dresses like the character normally does and looks like a cute tomboy instead of some slutted up version.

>>4659183
When it comes to Hetalia gender bends, there are ones that are canon but what a lot of Hetalia fans do not realize are separate from the main Hetalia cast. The "gender bend" versions are from a separate sub series called "Nyotalia", with separate strips, they also have different personalities from the male versions too. The only one that basically wears what her male counterpart wears is Nyo!Germany and for the most part her character acts the same.

That being said if someone is wearing the correct Nyotalia outfit it's different from just strictly a gender bend. I have no problems with Nyotalia cosplay but so with a gender bent one as far as Hetalia goes.

Sooooo much slut-shaming in this thread. Not surprising since it's /cgl/, but... ugh.

As long as you do it well (as I would hope you would try to do with any cosplay), who gives a fuck?

>>4659245
I am against slut-shaming, but I don't think this thread is really doing that. I think when women decide to do a genderbent cosplay and just change things to a short skirt and a form-fitting shirt+whatever other accessories the character may have, they're not showing much love of the character or appreciation of the original design.

>>4659272

No, pretty much they're being attention whores. The fastest way to get attention? Show some skin.

Not all women wear "sexy" clothing, why would all male characters turned female? A shy polite guy wouldn't turn into a vivacious girl in a miniskirt.

>>4659245
>I hate it when people slut up a character because they're too lazy to crossplay or genderbend well
>OMG SLUT SHAMING SLUT SHAMING ANGRY VIRGINS AND MISOGYNISTS AHOY

Protip: Stupid, lazy crossplay, like slutting up an established character, is inherently never "done well".

>>4659277
Yes, that's basically what I was saying.

>>4659272
Uh... have you read some of the replies? It's one thing to say 'I don't like when it doesn't really resemble the character or fit their personality' but that's not all that is being said.

>>4659277
Unless it can happen in the series like another anon stated... then I think it could be ok.

>>4659291
Why do you think women do shitty genderbend cosplays that show off their bodies, then? They're not saying that the women who do these are awful people, they're saying they want to show off, which is true.

>>4659291

The phrase "slutting up a character" gives you a pretty vivid idea of what the person is doing. It gives you an image of an overly sexualized outfit that is usually done for attention.

It's a phrase that while crass, is very effective in getting across it's meaning.

>>4659291
Slut shaming is valid if a person is validly being a slut. I'd call a guy who goes out in public shirtless to show off his chest for attention a slut too. I don't give a shit whats between the legs. A slut is a slut.

OP here again.
just wanted to say that i honestly don't want to show off my body. i'm actually pretty...shy about my assets. i have tried to bind and apply masculine makeup, but you can still tell that i'm a girl. pretty obviously. and i feel like i'm not doing the character any justice, and i don't want that.

so another opinion, if i may, what do you think of a modest genderbent character who tried to stay as close to the character as possible? i thought that 'shizuka'/kanra was pretty obvious, but i could be wrong. but i also don't just want to be shizuo/izaya with boobs (even binded down), you know? haha. idk i'm pretty conflicted.

thanks for your opinions /cgl/

>>4659277
God, tell this to /d/. I'd give my right tit for male to female transformation porn that didn't turn the guy into a raging slut as soon as he had another X chromosome.

>>4659298

Yeah. I don't mind genderbends if they're well thought out or actually envoke the personality of the character.

>>4659304
Your image in OP is fine, it's cute, it shows the characters personalities it's not too attention whore-y...

Though you could always do the girl from Ouran Host Club.

>>4659306
Though honestly, I think almost any guy would slut it up if he had the chance to magically turn into a female. And yeah, I'm a guy. I'm pretty sure I'd want to know what its like being a dirty, slutty, chick.

Don't lie, if you girls magically turned into a guy for a day, you'd find the nearest snow and piss in it, followed by a day of fapping and trapping fellow ladies.

I have a few I can post.
Personally I like the idea, so long as they aren't making any changes that are too revealing.
Depends on the character you're genderbending, some need more liberties than others.

>>4659319
Yeah, for a day! But when it's permanent, it doesn't make sense to turn into a cum dumpster when the guy was a shy bookworm. And it happens in every freaking doujin! Just once, let's have a cute bookworm boy turn into a cute bookworm girl.

(also I'd hella buttfuck some dudes if I was a dude, no homo with the ladies)

sage for opinions on silly pornography

I'm getting so sick of:
What does /cgl/ think about genderbending characters?
What does /cgl/ think about black people as white characters?
What does /cgl/ think about white people as black characters?
What does /cgl/ think about using your real hair?
What does /cgl/ think about fan art cosplay?
What does /cgl/ think about original characters/outfits?
What does /cgl/ think about BLAH BLAH BLAH!?

My god you will always get negative and positive answers. Its always the same answers. Honestly why does everyone feel the need make sure /cgl/ agrees with what they're doing? Because you don't want to end up here? Look op, you can do whatever the hell you want. You will always be talked about and haters will always hate. You can't escape that even if you make a good costume.

You know those weaboos flying around in their Roxas bathing suit outfits may be stupid, but they're having fun and they don't give a shit. Learn to not give a shit. When it comes to construction, or debating ideas, etc. anything like that then sure. But wanting to gender bend a character but not doing it because /cgl/ said no is ridiculous.

Yes op I know weren't specifically talking about yourself, and I know things like this can be nice to discuss, but I find we've had an abundance of these questions in the past year and its getting old. Yes, I'm a teensy bit mad.

There are a lot of characters that are just genderbent to "slut up"
But there would also be some characters that I think it would be okay to show skin with?
As long as it suits the character I personally don't care.

>>4659337

>>4659319
That is exactly what I would do. I would also stick my dick into everything that would seem remotely appealing. Watermelons, two water balloons smooshed together, whatever.

>>4659337
Oohgurlyouareinneedofahighfive.

>>4659337
Oh.. excuse us for being curious about what people think about something. How horrible for people to give opinions!

>>4659277
>>4659300
Anybody who cosplays is attention-seeking at some level. I agree that not all characters make sense to be sexified, but that is beside my point.

>>4659301
Well, thanks for at least acknowledging the problem with the phrasing. Either way, cosplay is already done for attention, so why the issue with genderbends being oversexualized and particulary criticizing women for it?

>>4659303
I'm going to assume you're a troll.

>>4659288
People aren't just criticizing the cosplay for being sloppy or lazy, and that's where my problem is.

>>4659337
>getting sick of cosplay-related threads
>no mention of troll threads, tripfag bullshit, /soc/ nonsense, etc

You are the cancer that is killing /cgl/.

Also:
God forbid people ask for opinions on shit. I'm going to guess you're one of the people who goes into cosplay advice threads and scream "JUST COSPLAY WHO YOU LIKE!!!!!!!!!"?

>>4659355

But.. why do you care what a group of people online think of something that you want to do?

If you're afraid they won't like it, just don't show them. Right?

>>4659337
Fucking this.

>>4659360
>>4659303 here

Uh.. no, I'm not a troll. I honestly don't give a shit if you are a guy or a girl. If you are showing skin for easy attention with the goal of getting laid, you're a slut. That's it.

I'm sorry my inclusive opinion of both male and females to an equal standard is considered a "Troll" to you. Gosh! How dare I not be a misogynist slut shamer. How dare I hold men and women in equal regards! BLASPHEMY!

>>4659362
Jesus! Do you need a bandaid for your ass?

>>4659360
>People aren't just criticizing the cosplay for being sloppy or lazy, and that's where my problem is.
>Protip: Stupid, lazy crossplay, like slutting up an established character, is inherently never "done well".

Are you even listening?

>>4659337
op again. honestly, i was just curious. i'd do it no matter what, but i do want to know what i'm up against. how much hostility i'm going to meet. i'm a very shy and self-conscience person, so i did want to know what the general consensus was. to prepare myself mentally. which, i realize, is pathetic haha.
that and i find /cgl/'s opinions genuinely interesting.

>>4659373
>long butthurt post about ~opinions~
>"hey guess what no-one cares"
>LOL U BUTTHURT?!!?!

Come on, at least hit me with a "u mad", that might actually be correct.

>>4659362
All that other bullshit should get the fuck out too, but it has nothing to do with this thread. Those cosplay advice threads are dynamic, they constantly change.
>>4659348
These threads have been around for a while and they're almost always static. I think the most change is people's opinions shifting more to one side than the other.

Like I said, I understand its nice to discuss, but they just end up being the same shit. This one no different. Now if you asked "Hey /cgl/ how can this character be genderbent", "Hey /cgl/ can you dump some genderbent pictures" that would be something new to discuss about.

Though ya if you've never seen this topic its fresh to you, so I can see that and sorry. I do see that my post was a bit harsh.

>>4659379
Ignore her, it's not pathetic. Testing out the waters like this is common sense.

>>4659365
Why does it effect you so, anon? Do you really dislike cosplay related threads that much? We rarely get them anyway. It's interesting to see the contrasting opinions. You seem like a person who doesn't like their opinions to be contradicted...

>>4659360

There is a difference between what most cosplayers do and attention whoring. Most cosplayers want attention for their effort. Most attention whore just want attention by the easiest means. THAT is the difference.

The reason women are more criticized for it because women are 99% of the time the CULPRITS of doing shitty genderbends so they can wear their miniskirt and tube top.

Most men don't do genderbends, or when they do, they aren't overtly sexed up. When they're running around in just their shirt and a wig going "I AM SEXY ICHIGO LOOK AT MY ABS" they too are called attention whores.

It seems somewhat unrepresentative to treat genderswap as if it's being created by the cosplayers themselves and then judge it on those merits. Genderswap can be a highly popular form of fan character, and one which doesn't have to devolve too much into bullshit Mary Sue fanon since they have an established base personality to work from. If a cosplayer likes a genderswapped character on its own merits, then that is sufficient reason for them to cosplay as that.

>>4659379
I'm not that poster.
But I understand a little more. Sometimes a few posters come across is "I don't want to do this if.." and I know for certain that lolitas start threads with "is it OKAY to wear" "am I ALLOWED to wear".

Thanks for your calm, thorough response (unlike some others in here..)!

It's good to hear that you were just looking for those things and would do it either way. Have fun!

>>4659365
Why do you care if someone on the internet cares about what someone else on the internet thinks?

>>4659375
My reading comprehension skills are fine, Anon, unlike yours. "Slutting a character up" does not automatically make it stupid and lazy, which is where I disagreed with that Anon.

>>4659383
>implying I'm that opinions poster at all
You sound mad AND butthurt. Like it was a slight on your person or some shit.

>>4659406

That's exactly what it implies. Slutting up a character pretty much mean "AS MUCH SKIN AND AS LITTLE EFFORT AS POSSIBLE" otherwise they wouldn't be using the term "slutting it up".

>>4659401
Because while I'm curious to know why they would care for personal reasons..
I'm also studying to become a licensed professional counselor. It would be good for me to understand things about people that I currently don't. And I do in fact care. That's why I asked.

>>4659383
That was not me the only things I posted were
>>4659390 and >>4659337

>>4659379
Yeah once again I'm sorry. Its just that it seems like a lot of people come here to /cgl/ and feel the need to conform to whatever the general opinion of /cgl/ is and its getting a bit sickening. If you would of said that in your topic I wouldn't of posted anything lol, because what you just typed could go places. So sorry again.

>>4659394
Its not interesting to see the same opinions over and over. I wasn't addressing this thread specifically, I was addressing a bunch of threads that have the same idea behind them.

>>4659424
So... For personal reasons, you're getting mad about people asking for advice... for personal reasons?

Holy shit, I need to sit down for this amount of stupid.

>>4659435
Where did I say I was mad? Maybe you're assuming that I'm another poster..
This is hardly something to be upset about.

I think you're a little confused. I simply asked a question.

>>4659435
I'm sorry. I wasn't very clear right there. I meant THAT poster's personal reasons. Not my own. Excuse me.

>mfw a perfectly fine, helpful thread turns into bitches screaming at each other over stupid shit

Can you women do anything without it devolving into a screaming match?

>>4659480

NO YOU STUPID SON OF A BITCH.

WHY DON'T YOU EVER CALL?

>>4659480
>screaming
>nothing vocal
LOL Can't scream if you're not speaking.

HEY!
I WAS FROZEN TODAY!!

>>4659431
no, i understand. i'll clarify next time so there won't be such a shitstorm haha. sorry about that.
i do understand your frustration with the topic though. i'd rather no one cared and just did what they wanted (because it's so much more fun that way. i'd rather be a weeb than an elitist any day, but to each their own...), but look at where we are.

Just amazed how this artist did it right and did it very wrong in the same pic.

I think this is just another on of those cgl 'how do you feel about...' threads that can be answered with 'Depends."

>>4659856
tacky heart tube top.
why would you do that irl or in fan art stop it.

So.... lets turn this thread into a genderbender art dump.