>>4647170
Nice train. I love these local Japanese trains.

What the hell? One was enough, where did that go?

>>4647211
this one will be gone soon too
wait for OP to get upset

>>4647239
Go back to /jp/.

>>4647239

OP here.
Chill the fuck out.
Other thread got deleted so I started a new one.

>>4647249
but they just tell me to get out of /jp/
why doesn't anyone love me?

>>4647268

Because your a complaining bastard?

Ew, this is just beyond creepy. And why do all their heads look so big? Worse than furries imo.

I personally love this form of cosplay. You can look exactly like the character given that your mask maker doesn't suck balls.

>>4647302
wearing a helmet/something that covers your whole head makes it a bit larger.
plus its more 'accurate'

I wonder how non-kigurumi performers would attempt making a mask of their own?

>>4647332
There's tons of tutorials around if you know where to look, most are in japanese, but there's plenty of helpful english folk. It's not too different than casting your own cosplay armor or something.

My beef is that it's usually not necessary for most characters, and seems cowardly to hide your face when it isn't. It's like a human fursuit. But you're already human. I dig some of the masks I've seen on non-human characters, though. And yeah, some human ones too, there are decent masks out there. But so much more creepy ones.

But even I've contemplated making such a mask for Quote from Cave Story, because I think it might fit better, as he's a robot, than makeup.

>>4647421
I got it: American cosplayers are such vain creatures, we always want to show our faces and attach our names to our cosplays. That must be why we don't like kigurumi so much.

And you think the anime heads are big.

>>4647432
Well, yes. There are some really big anime heads out there from the super-cutesy shows.

>>4647421
>>4647427
I guess it's pretty obvious that many cosplayers are attention whores, haha. (no offense, I whore for attention in my own ways.) but not everyone shares that sort of view point, so I wouldn't call it cowardly. Also, a mask MAY always be needed if the cosplayer isn't the correct gender or skin color! I have the fortune of being female, but what if I wanted to be some brown loli or a character with an entirely different face than myself? Also, I like stage shows, so the idea of doing something similar is appealing, so it's less about hiding and more about wanting to do something I enjoy watching.

And of course there's the more japanese perspective of the work being more important than the one who made it. And well... most kigs are male, and being a crossdressing otaku in japan is not something you want to braodcast to people you know. We take a lot more pride in our hobbies than in the east, unfortunately.

I think some english speaking kigurumi performers are really amazing even when compared to Japanese performers. I do think that most english performers have no grasp of how to present themselves however.

it would look slightly better if their heads werent so fucking huge.

off topic, but I can't wait for anime expo! Look out for some of us there.

>>4647439
are they able to see/breathe?
that's huuuuuuge!

>>4647445
>mask MAY always be needed if the cosplayer isn't the correct gender or skin color
>what if I wanted to be some brown loli or a character with an entirely different face than myself?
Makeup can do some amazing things. Even for gender. Maybe in Japan guys would want to hide, but here crossplay is pretty openly accepted and adored when done properly.

>>4647457
They wouldn't fit over your head if they weren't big

>>4647455
Yeah, there's a few good ones, a few of which introduced me to this in the first place

>>4647487
but but but I want a cute animu face!
Also, not everyone is blessed with good looks, so it's a nice alternative, even if you just want to be someone else or have people see you as this cute anime character.

bigger group

>>4647642
Creepier in numbers. Just like fursuits.

>>4647656
>herpderp using fursuits as a go-to insult

Man though, it's kind of depressing looking at western meetups after seeing those pictures. It's like the difference between Deviantart and Pixiv. Lots of really nice people, but the overall quality is...

>>4647671
No, just saying that they're both creepy in large group pictures. Individually, usually not bad, large groups, jesuschristgetinthecar.

>>4647671

That's one of the bad US meet-ups. Poorly planned and it seems like few of them even have standards or know how.

This photo is a picture of a better meet-up with the exception of the latex mask.

>>4647689
Ah well, okay.

>>4647704
Heh, yeah it's good to see the more talented makers represented at once. I think the future is bright though, and a lot of japanese makers sell to westerners now. I just hope there aren't any instances of "ruining it for the rest of us".

>>4647704
Man hands... man hands everywhere...

>>4647726
Huh, that makes me think. There's a lot of tips and tricks out there for hiding one's masculine form - posture, walking, photo angles, etc - but now I'm wondering if there's hand positions that reduce the "man hand" look. Well, they're pretty obvious if you think about it, but I've never seen anyone make suggestions about the issue. It's something easy to miss.

>>4647756
I have a tip.

Cosplay a male character instead of a little girl if you can't completely hide that you're a man.

>>4647823
Man, that's harsh. You do speak some truth, stocky or overtly masculine forms are difficult to compensate for no matter what. BUT, there is a lot of stuff guys can do very easily to look deceptively feminine.
I fully endorse a man attempting to emulate the master race.

>>4647845
>master race
>blond hair blue eyes...

>>4647866
this is now a Master Race only thread

>>4647671
don't worry anon
there are plenty of kigurumi that fail hardcore in japan too

>>4647901
Being Asian doesn't give you a free pass. There are numerous bad kigurumi in Japan.

>>4647878
Awriiite

dammit you guys, ever since you started posting more and more kigus, I've been less scared of them and actually started to think they.... might even be sort of cute? I still think if I ever saw one in person, I'd freak out though.

>>4648054
What cons do you go to anon?

>>4648072

ALA and AX.

>>4648087

Will see you there.

>>4648108
Hah, well played.

>>4648054
I second this sentiment. The more good ones I see, the less creepy/freaky they seem. Still wouldn't cosplay like that myself, though.

kick the can with kigurumi

bump

>>4648054
>>4648686
That's the spirit! Sorta.

Okay, how about a discussion topic. If you could get one mask from any maker, who would you get one from? Would you have a character in mind?

>>4649754
Uhh... I don't really think anyone here really knows any makers...

>>4649970
Hrm true. I guess I can list some of the popular ones.
As far as asia goes, there's
GouKaOu (http://sharkgogo.myweb.hinet.net/index.html)
Nukopan (http://nukopan00.blog115.fc2.com/)
Build Up Studio Sigma (http://www.buildupstudiosigma.com/index.htm)
Dolphin Studios (http://www.iluca.jp/index2.html)
Live Wear Yu (http://www.kigurumicosplay.com/)
Ayame Store (http://ayame-store.jp/)
Kawaii-LTD (http://kawaii-ltd.com/index.html)
and a few others...

In the west we have Miharu (http://www.tigerworks.org/index.php), Odette (http://kigurumicarousel.blogspot.com/), animegao studio (http://www.animegaostudio.com/), Kanakig (http://kanakigstudios.com/)... I'm probably missing some but that's the ones off the top of my head.

Everyone has their own individual styles so maker choice is important it you don't have any artistic bones in you.

speaking of makers.. I really like Kana's newer generic mask. It's on a whole different level than his older works.

>>4650070
you seem to be full of links... how about some tutorials?
we tend to enjoy making our own stuff here.

>>4650194
Ah, lets see what I can dig up...

All of the tutorial links are in japanese, however the two big english-speaking forums (Rabbit's and Wyu's) have tons of topics with tips. Looks like a lot from my old link list are gone now, including some of the only english ones I had. If anyone can help, feel free to append the list!

http://www.geocities.jp/eins_maid/atelier/atelier.html (Looks like most of the tutorials are taken down here, click on the "こちら" next to the topmost mask image)

http://hdcam.jp/~kakky/factory/seisaku.html

http://page.freett.com/yumekuri/jpn/mkmulti.html

http://www.n-mew.com/making/index.html

There's probably way more but it's all the same gist of things.

>>4650355
Basically the main components are some kind of sculpted base (clay or whatever you're comfortable with, followed by mold making using silicone (for best results) and FRP.

bump before bed~

>>4650355
>>4650402
So pretty much the universal molding/casting procedure.

Fuck. Now I want to try making one for Quote now. Doesn't help that I have nothing else to work on...

>>4651698
doitfaggot.psd

where do i buy when i seach kigurumi on ebay i only find fury shit

>>4652428
see
>>4650070

You may want to think about the way you choose to construct your sentences grammatically. Unrelated, but we already have too many people who can't fucking type in this fandom.

>>4652428
search kigurumi mask
get 2 results

>>4652428
>fury shit


"Kigurumi" technically is a blanket term for any full-body costume, whether it be anime masks, those animal pajamas, or mascot/fursuit costumes.

bamp

>>4647901

>fetish W

God... fucking- FUCK.

Anyway, the comparisons to fursuits are a little over the top. The only real problem I have with this type of cosplay/fetish/whatever is that it's 99.9% men. The .1% of women are all stage show actors.

>>4655491
I still don't see why this is a problem. Well-done crossplayers often get praise, don't they? I remember this one male Selty who was totally awesome and convincing. Plus, it's natural that the ability to hide your face draws in a lot of males who would be otherwise too shy (or have some manner of shame otherwise brought upon them) to crossplay normally.

Anyhow, I don't normally save images of Ena model masks since I'm pretty bored of them, but this is a super cute uniform.

>>4655546
Well yeah, they get praise when they do it well and don't hide their face... that Celty being an exception because the character doesn't have a face to hide.

Oshi's got a decent idea to add to a cosplay that doesn't have a normal face, but dude does fursuits all the time so whatever

>>4655708
>fursuits
... :|

I'm always up for hiding my ugly mug.

>>4655708
See but this is just leading into some kind of "Hide face = Bad" fallacy. Since when is hiding your face bad? Shouldn't the quality of the cosplay be important, not whatever person is in the costume?

>>4658314
Nope.

Hiding your face in a big plastic bulb with a staring blank face on it is fucking creepy. Compared to the BIG PLASTIC BULB WITH A STARING BLANK FACE I don't give a shit about your French seams and well-coordinated shoes.

>>4658344
Cool opinions, dude. I think those big plastic bulbs are adorable, (and many others, clearly) so that argument doesn't exactly hold. I don't see someone in a mask when I look at these, I see the character. It just depends on how you look at it.

>>4658467
Yes, it depends. It depends on whether you've insulated yourself in a self-reinforcing bubble of people who have convinced each other that IT'S OKAY BRO

>>4658344
I'm sure with a lot of the people that wear these, we're probably better off with the creepy plastic stare than their real face...

>>4658478
>go to con
>see kigurumi for the first time
>Whoa, that's awesome!

okay.

Maybe you should fill yourself with less vile for things you don't have a personal taste for. Your only reason for it being "wrong" is "I DON'T LIKE IT"

>>4658500
Makes me wonder, are there any pics of dudes wearing these, like, with the mask off? There are a few out there of female performers...
Probably not since they actually have something to hide...

>>4658648
It's considered poor form to photo yourself in costume without the mask, or to even be seen that way. There's a big taboo against "ruining the magic" so to speak. Also, most male kids don't want people to know their identity, as they probably have a rather normal life to keep up. Being a crossdressing otaku isn't exactly something people flaunt over there. For professionals it's probably a little different, so that's why you usually see girls like that. But really, it's because it's against protocol. No demasking in public, no talking in costume, be in character, etc.

>>4658712
Laaaame. Not even American ones? I think I saw the like, only girl, what was her name, Olette? post a pic of herself out of costume on her blog, have any others done so?

>>4658791

Did you see what a fatass she is?

>>4658712
Fuck that, ruining the magic is great.
Last Otakon, when I was wearing Repede with our Vesperia group, a little kid grabbed my hand and started walking with me.
I lifted my mask to see what it was, since I couldn't really see down (mask wasn't quite finished/secure), and the kid ran back to his mom, and straight into a railing. It was glorious, minus the pursuant crying.

If I'm hot, or standing around talking, fuck y'all, mask comes off.
Your community need more dudes who don't give a shit and break code.

>>4658818
No, no not really...

>>4658864
Y..yeah, not making kids cry is also important. "Never ruin children's dreams", to quote a japanese kig. In fact, there's a lot of interesting things most people don't know about properly interacting with children while in costume!

Doing shit like that is what ruins the fun for everyone and gives hobbies a bad rep. Having good manners and behaving oneself isn't just nice to the onlookers, it's nice for the community too. Imagine if someone wasn't able to get permission to photoshoot at a location because of a bad previous experience? Besides that, maskers who act like jerkoffs are usually not looked on so pleasantly by the rest, and mask makers usually have legal agreements when you buy their product about what you can and can't do.

>>4659013
All I did was lift my mask to see what grabbed my hand. The kid running off and smacking into a metal railing was just a bonus.

Not being a jerk outright, just being a jerk for laughing/not caring.

>>4659013
wait, wait, I just caught that:
>legal agreements what you can and can't do in the mask
Fuckin' serious? Wow.

>>4659066
Eh, it's not too serious. Mostly stuff like "Hey please don't make porn videos".

But uh yeah, accidents do happen! I'm the kind of person who would care about that, I guess.

>>4658864

Aw... Oshi, that isn't very nice at all. Poor little kid.

>>4659102
Oh. Fair enough then. Post gave me the idea that "don't unmask yourself in public or take photos like that" was part of the legal agreement.