Starla. Must... Suppress... Stabbing... Urges...

D:<<< EVERY LOLITA IS ITA BUT ME! I'M THE NICEST LOLITA! THE REST ARE ALL BITCHES!!!

I don't have a vendetta against a particular lolita, but all the new lolitas who become "lifestyle" lolitas while wailing about not being able to afford clothing make me want to slap them.

Lolita's about clothing first. If you're not wearing lolita at least now and then, you aren't living a "lolita" lifestyle. You're just being a pretentious snot.

there's a lolita I know IRL, but nobody I know likes her, not even her fiance. She's just extremely negative and unpleasant to be around.

That's the closest I think I get to a vendetta. I just don't hang out with her.

i'm constantly raging over these chicks in my community, but it's too obvious for me to post who they are and not have them know it was me posting.

make me rage even harder.
(especially when i see them together in pictures...
they're both so goddamn fake.)

>>4620418
Pfft. I'm a MAJOR bitch, but at least I have a goddamn IQ above 40.

>>4620420
What the hell is this "life style" things I keep hearing about here? Wouldn't a lifestyle lolita be one to wears the fashion everyday? Is it like the post where the girl was talking about her tea cup collection, but was holding a mug in the picture Am I just really behind?

Maybe not quite as rage-worthy as this thread is intended for, BUT WHEN I ASK FOR CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM ON D_L I WANT CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. Not 20+ comments on how adorable I am. They're probably talking out their asses anyways. I may coord relatively well, but I do dress head to toe in Bodyline, handmade, and offbrand. They probably don't want to tell me to improve myself because they don't want to be seen as brandwhores or something.

BUT WHEN I ASK IF SUCH AND SUCH SOCKS LOOK GOOD OR NOT, AND WHAT SOCKS MIGHT LOOK BETTER, I WOULD LIKE AT LEAST ONE PERSON OUT OF THE 20 OF YOU TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

Or maybe d_l posters just don't read or something. Seriously guys. When I'm asking for coord advice and you just shower me in compliments (possibly empty ones, at that) it doesn't get me anywhere.

If I didn't have a fear of selfposting on /cgl/m I'd ask you guys for advice.

>>4620408
Lol, OP, is your vendetta against tsu_ by any chance?

Bunny-Lolita-Chan. Aka CraftyLittleBunny.

Just.
So.
Terrible. And so thick. And she refuses to learn.

>>4620429
A "lifestyler" wears Lolita everyday, decks her room out in Rococo goodness, and shits macaroons -- or at least they do in their heads. To the rest of us "lifestyle" is another word for "pretentious".

>>4620436
I wish I hadn't seen that. But I do feel better about my coord-ing abilities.

mizz_charmed. It's just so many little things that have built up over her few months of posting that make me want to smack her

>>4620436
... I know who you are.

Probably.

And I was about to post her, too. haha

>>4620429
Pretty much. The idea of a lifestyle lolita is that you're using your particular interpretation of lolita's aesthetic to enrich your life. Such as lolitas who think tea parties are the epitome of lolitadom, so they collect tea cups. Alternately, there are lolitas who think the fashion is all about fun and make their lifestyle about as being as decadent and wild as possible.

It varies from person to person and there is no one "lifestyle" choice that applies to everyone.

Thus, my rage when people who don't wear the style say that they'll "just be a lifestyle lolita" instead.

>>4620434
It is! Good guess! You can probably figure out who I am from that, but I don't even GAF.

Oh okay that's what I thought it was. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

>>4620429

lifestyle is basically doing crafts, cooking, baking, decorating and acting polite and sweet as an extension of lolita.

some people take it as super serious business, for me it's just a fun, interesting way to expand my skills and use the lolita aesthetic in things besides clothing. it's a bit more of a mindset.

it's fun! It's been an idea for a long time in lolita, and I do it because it compliments my personality extremely well so it just fits. I can understand why some wouldn't be attracted to it though.

>>4620436
aw... i rather like her.
her skirts/dresses are prgressivley getting better.

she posted a new one that i thought was incredibly cute.
& she's suuuper nice, i can't find myself to dislike her.

Let's gather around the tea table and bitch about others. stay classy, lolitas, stay classy.

>>4620459
yeah why don't we have separate threads for each person like cosplayers do

>>4620458
... her things aren't getting better. She's just gotten too preggo to actually wear half of them. The dresses still are straight tubes of fabric for the bodices. The skirts are still using ugly quilting fabrics.

Everyone constantly drooling over her work makes me roll my eyes. Just because she can make a straight line and ruffles doesn't mean her sewing is "good".

>>4620463
Well, unless you count PZ, PT, and whenever somebody really dun goofed.

>Thus, my rage when people who don't wear the style say that they'll "just be a lifestyle lolita" instead.

Okay I understand that. I do decorate my room and such, but that's because I enjoy those things. Claiming lifestyle lolita seems silly, especially if you don't own any lolita clothes.

>>4620467
*shrug*

i can agree with you to some extent there.

her quality's fine if she just sewed her lolita for herself just selling it makes me a bit twitchy.
atleast her quality's better than PZ.

I'm pretty sure I can tell who the artist of that picture is, and I have to say, she's such a sweetheart! I tried to nominate her for a daily deviation but it didn't happen. =(

>>4620459
U kidding? This is the official lolita pasttime :3

>>4620479
Did anyone even buy those things?

http://loli-secret.livejournal.com/123799.html?thread=21415319#t21415319

This. Bitch. She think she cute.

>Yay! I'm a special snowflake. xD
This amuses me. Alright so I'm cynically sarcastic and blunt. I'll admit I could have been nicer but I chose not to be. Haterz gonna hate I suppose. cx I'm not really a special snowflake either. I just occasionally piss people off with what I have to say. It happens. -shrugs-

Bitch. Bitch. Shut the fuck. Up. I am so embarrassed for you right now because you couldn't possibly be trying any fucking harder. That thread and her responses were literally painful to read.

>>4620429
>Is it like the post where the girl was talking about her tea cup collection, but was holding a mug in the picture
oh god.. link plz

>>4620473

yeah, this I can understand too, although I'll admit that before I could afford lolita was when I started doing lolita-style crafts and activities, but I feel like it's enhanced me as a person just the same, so I don't regret it any.

>>4620485
It's long gone, anon. People were just discussing their collection hobbies and things that "make them feel" lolita. No real drama.

It did turn to talking about handmadexlolita for a while, and her stupid RP TEA PARTY CHAT TIME YAY!

>>4620484
And I just want to add, I don't think I really have a vendetta against her, I just want her to shut the fuck up.

>>4620458

She may be nice, but she's as stupid as a brick. And. No... she's not getting better. In fact, her fabric is getting worse. She's declining into using old bed sheets and curtains she buys from garage sales. The thread count on whatever new fabric she finds always looks terrible, and she seems to find the most infantile toddler sheets she can find.
Her bodices are a straight tube, with no tailoring, no curve, no seams. Then she tries to explain that she has to make things uneven, to fit the baby? No.
This isn't even mentioning how she talks about how she plans to treat her child like her own personal dress up doll, like a baby's the ultimate Lolita accessory.

It has not quite reached vendetta level yet but I am pissed off with a girl who in the past created a lot of drama. I stuck up for her and tried to convince people she has changed. Only now, her old behaviour is starting to creep back. I am on the verge of developing a vendetta because I feel stupid for trusting her and she is mean to my friends. Plus, she is a shit lolita and acts as if she knows everything.

There are a few people on the comm who aren't so bad in small doses (you can brush it off), but when they keep posting and posting it's like a plaque build up that keeps growing until your patience is dead and all you can think is STFU!

>>4620484
I literally couldn't read her responses past the first few she posted, she's tries so... so hard to be edgy and indifferent.

>>4620501
I feel so much pity for her child.

It makes me wonder if her husband really exists, though. I mean. Does he have no say in anything? And why have we never seen him? Does he refuse to dress up with her and that's why we never have photos of anything but her stuffed animal filled bedroom and crappy sewing or cats?

>>4620485
It was on CGL. She was talking about how she's lolita and collects tea cups and was showing up her new cat tea cup. It was obviously a mug.

Also, this is snobby, but I hate it when people post pictures of themselves having tea and they are holding their cup the wrong way.

>>4620501
am i weird that i actually found that to be really cute?
i wouldn't buy it for the price she was asking, but i found it cute for a top or blouse, not necessarily for lolita...

& are you kidding me? i'm constantly wanting to make my 3 year old god daughter lolita dresses.
SO DAMN CUTE.

>>4620503
Dish it anon. Let it all out. It will just keep getting worse until you let anon take care of your problems for you and wash clean the taint staining your community.

Keep it classy, lolicunts!

>>4620515
Sure. But do you refer to her as your own "personal Pullip/Blythe doll"? Because she's used that phrase several times. Everyone wants their kid to be cute but THAT is just fucked up. Babies are not baby dolls.

>>4620521

forgive me but


O_______O

>>4620514
How do you hold a tea cup right? Ignorant/unclassed anon is curious.

How can lolitas actually be friends with other lolitas? I mean, clearly they want you dead just as much as you want them dead.

>>4620520
Same to you, anon-insulter <3!

>>4620521

>>4620528
she doesn't have any idea herself, so don't bother asking her.

>>4620528
By the handle, not the cup.

Eh, it's one of those silly manners things like 'no elbows on the table', yaddayadda.

>>4620528
>The proper way to hold your tea cup is by placing your fingers to the front and back of the handle, with your pinkie in the air for balance. Never loop your fingers through the handle or grasp the vessel bowl with the palm of your hand.

In short, pinch the handle, don't hold it like you're wearing a ring like most people do.

>>4620528
If it is a western style cup -you do not put your fingers through the little handle, you just hold the handle. You put your pinky out so that you can have better balance when drinking (this is also used with eastern cups, i think, but I'm very informed there...)

>>4620531
i'm friends with tons of other lolitas, ones that i have nothing bad to say to/of/about. No matter their size or the way their face looks, they are just good, nice, and fun lolitas to hang around with.
<3

>>4620548
***not informed here.

>>4620548

huh. learn something every day.

although putting one's fingers through it provides the same balance that the pinkie out might and looks far less ridiculous!

I don't think most people get their bloomers in a bunch over such a small detail anymore, and it's probably not worth getting upset about.

>>4620524
>>4620534
Yeah. See. That's about how I feel any time she starts talking about the baby coming. I pray to God her husband has more sense than she does.

>>4620556
I don't mind it usually lolitas, but it would be embarrassing in a situation that requires etiquette. If you're going to a tea house and you don't know the etiquette, look it up.

>>4620545
Wait, people hold their teacups by the cup and not the handle? Why would you do that? Isn't the cup hot when you've got tea in it, and the handle is usually very cool? I don't understand!

>>4620515

Her work has potential, but she refuses to take crit and grow from it. That dress may be kind of cute, but once you look more closely, you realize that the bodice cannot fit any curves of breasts, and it's too short to cover anything. The ric rac cuts your bust in half which is really unflattering and having a stitching line there will put the fabric under stress and pinch into your breasts, causing a line. The lace and ruffle up top is going to bunch up in your arm pits.
And her response is just "lol, yeah, you're totally right!" but she won't fix it.
And, yeah, she's mentioned the personal Blythe doll thing way too much. There's a difference between buying your child cute clothes, and treating them as a toy.

>>4620570
Eastern cups used to not have handles. I imagine that they were thicker? I'm not sure, I don't own any eastern cups so idk.

>>4620566

oh sure, in a situation like that it makes more sense, but to just enjoy drinking tea out of a pretty cup it seems a little goofy. :)

I imagine Japanese style tea houses would also be a little more concerned with etiquette than Western ones, at least in the States. We kinda lost the art of tea.

>>4620576
If I'm eating alone or drinking alone, yeah I don't really follow etiquette, but in front of people I try to mind these things.
In business situations or when meeting people's parents, knowing how to hold your cup or which fork to use can leave quite the impression.

>>4620546
>>4620548
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8AiKvChg9w

Made me think of this song. In a totally good, not mean way.

Oh god, now I'm trying to remember how many times I've held a tea cup the wrong way in public. I was only doing it that way because my hands are always cold!

>>4620575
Nah, they still get hot as fuck.
Too annoying for regular use, but it's fantastic for when you have a cold and just sit there and smell the tea to help clear up your sinuses, so you don't drink it before you get the chance, haha.

Also, it's also a peeve of mine when people insist they know about tea etiquette when they obviously don't. I don't usually hold the teacup right when I'm just drinking tea by myself, but goddamnit don't sit there and tell me I'm supposed to loop my finger through the handle while holding my pinky up. But I'm really anal about that shit, and I try to keep my rage inside.

>>4620574

Not to mention that she's often selling used items on her etsy, not brand new. So not only is she selling shitty products, she wears them first until they don't fit, then posts them at prices that do not at all reflect the quality, or the fact that they've been used. You can find images of her wearing almost anything she's sold.

>>4620449
She just needs to apologize on the that loli secret and THEN EVERYONE CAN MOVE ON, finally.

>>4620548
UGH, LISTEN UP PEOPLE: Do NOT put your FUCKING PINKIE out when you hold any cup. It is NOT part of any etiquette and it is plain retarded. People who know the first thing about etiquette will only laugh at you. This way of holding a teacup (or any cup) is only used IN PARODY. Seriously. Do not do it, you will only be laughed at.

>>4620601
I haven't really had an experience where someone is telling me etiquette that's wrong. I live in the US, so I don't mind the cup thing too much (unless it's a teaparty or something), but it bugs the hell out of me when people use their knife and fork wrong. But that's not really a lolita issue.

>>4620616
You don't stick your pinky all the way out, that's silly, but you hold it slightly out.

>>4620605
According to her, she has apologized for things... of course, her apologies are "oh I'm sorry you got offended lol I'm HONEST" so

>>4620574
My first thought when seeing that dress was that the actual fabric 'bodice' would fit like a high-waisted skirt, and that the lacey ruffle thing would sort of cover the boobies but would allow for easy breastfeeding.
I should go to bed.

>>4620644
The bodice part is tiny...

>>4620627
If you deal with foreigners however keep in mind that their etiquette with knife and fork is different. People hold their cutlery differently in the UK than in the US for example.

>>4620627
This. Person who said that you have to have your pinky out is either trolling or just... yeah... noob. I would rather see a loli hold her cup "wrongly" by having her hand around it rather than by the handle, than see a loli with her pinky out. It's the type of thing that is parodied, precisely because it is only people who know no manners that do it in a misguided effort to imitate how they think upper classes hold their cups. Girls, if normal people didn't already think that you were trolling with dem frills, they will certainly do when they see you holding a teacup with your pinky out.

>>4620653

even if pinky out were proper etiquette and not a joke, I would feel ridiculous doing it! I'm just gonna... hold my cup in whatever way is the best way for me to get it to my lips. haha. I'd rather look a little uncultured than completely ridiculous.

in b4 I already look ridiculous in lolita

>>4620644

That was my first thought too.
But, no, it's supposed to be a real JSK. That's supposed to be the real bodice. And yes, she said she's just going to bunch the lace/ruffle up into her armpits.

Ok, bringing out my etiquette guide to settle some things here. These are excerpts from the book "The Greatest Etiquette and Dining tips in the world" by Prof Roland Rotherham.

On holding a tea cup:
"When holding the teacup, or coffee cup, merely grasp the handle gently but securely with the pads of your thumb and index finger. This is more than enough to secure the cup for the purpose of drinking". (p.55)

"Lose the digit.
Please, never raise your small finger whilst drinking. This is deplorable and should be rewarded by the offending digit being immediately removed by a pair of hot sugar tongs. Serves you right too!" (p.56)

It sometimes seems like lolitas try to outprove each other on random Japanese things.
I was talking with this girl and Kannon Wakeshima was playing, who I liked and I mentioned that I liked her. The girls started bombarding me with all these names of Japanese bands and I told her that Wakeshima was really the only Japanese musician I listened to. She continued to ramble on with names that meant nothing to me.

>>4620676

BUENO

thanks for settling that for us :D I kinda like the visual of one lolita pulling off another's pinky with sugar tongs though.

i have a massive, unjustifyable vendetta about a girl i know irl whos a cosplayer, but i know better than to act on it. i just quietly rage in the corner and try to ignore her.

>>4620690

this is always obnoxious behavior. I think it's general weeaboo behavior too because that's where I've witnessed it. ugh.

>>4620676
> This is deplorable and should be rewarded by the offending digit being immediately removed by a pair of hot sugar tongs.
>and should be rewarded by the offending digit being immediately removed by a pair of hot sugar tongs.
>offending digit
>removed by a pair of hot sugar tongs.
>hot sugar tongs.
>removed
>offending digit

Oh fuck.

>>4620493
How did the RPG teaparty go? I just imagine it was awkward.

>>4620691
No prob! I find it pretty sad when people who don't know anything about dining rules try to do things as if they do and lecture others about it too. As far as I am concerned, if you don't know the right way, but you are still a courteous and considerate person and just go with being yourself, no one will begrudge you for holding your teacup in your palms. But, if you don't know the right way, and you decide to act all pretentiously and stick your little finger up, then people are more likely to take notice and offence and laugh at you.
I recommend that if lolis are interested in etiquette, they pick up a recommended and popular book about it. Never go by just what you hear on the internet, you never know if it is true or someone is bullshitting you.

I hate stuff like this going up on the comm sales...really? Why do you think anyone would buy that?

I don't know who it was, but someone was selling an ugly masquerade mask on egl_commsales and the mod asked to her to take it down because it wasn't lolita. Her reply was that it had be up for 7 posts before and no one ever had a problem. If it hasn't sold after that many posts, no one wants to buy it.

>>4620703
Speaking of the RP tea party, I thought it was a great idea but...

Ugh. I'm a big forum RP'er and I RP on other places on the internet. It's sort of serious business to me. I'm more into storylines and plot developement, deep characters, etc. But...

Just imagining the RP tea party after it being posted to EGL made me think of all sorts of kawaii uguu crytal moons gaia-RPing around a table with asterisks and doing dull things and acting and reacting unrealistically and just...

The RPer in me can't take that.

>>4620690
In my experience it's always either that you must worship Japan to be a proper lolita, or that liking anything from Japan beyond lolita clothing makes you the biggest ita in the world. Nothing in between, ever. Not since the older girls in my community stopped being active, anyway.
There seems to be a gradial change many lolitas (or cosplayers, or anyone with an interest in something Japan-related) go through: insufferable but happy weeaboo -> self-hating anti-weeaboo -> somewhat mature individual who feels confident in the enjoyment of their own hobbies and isn't all that bothered by what other people like.
That's what I went through, anyway. Unfortunately some people get stuck in one of the first two phases for much longer than normal.

>>4620676
>deplorable
I loled XD

>>4620718

back when I first started I had a few etiquette books, but I think very little of it stuck. then again it was almost ten years ago that I read them... D: I have no idea where they went now, but one was an Emily Post book and the other was called "The Art and Power of Being a Lady."

>>4620728

that's how I experienced it too, anon, although the self hating bit was, thankfully, short.

There's an Emily Post blog that is fun to look at. I don't have the link on me, but it's probably googlable.

Oh my god this girl... emo_the_emu or something - I can't find the ds post she made recently for some reason. She keeps posting this monstrosity of a dress on the comm sales and several times I saw her offer it as a trade for brand dresses. Then she makes a post with a pair of random Meta socks and says she wants like 30gbp for them, otherwise she'll only trade for brand. So she expects other people to accept her shitty handmade dress for brand, but won't take a offbrand/handmade item in exchange for her brand. Hypocrite! Also, her prices are always too high.

I hate how people like to post pictures with their comments on EGL like it's 4chan. We do not need a stupid face or animation with your opinion.

Also, some dumb bitch is selling T-shirts on comm_sales. T-shirts from the Disney store and T-shirts with katakana on it. Stupid.

>>4620825
Yeah a bunch of the shit in her post shouldn't have gotten through. Look at the last thing posted. It's a cosplay lolita dress.

>>4620821
Ah, found the post: http://egl-comm-sales.livejournal.com/15282771.html#cutid1

>>4620837
Someone is calling her out on the prices.

The bows are horrendous. That handmade dress looks like it's a square dancing dress.

I get pissed off when people start planning meet-ups, but abandon them part-way through.

>>4620846
Those tiara prices are ridiculous. I hope more people call her out.

I'm pretty sure I have some people hate me, but I don't hate them. :(

>>4620846
Only on one tiara and she just made up some bullshit about how she's had it for yeaaaaaarrrs and it's from her "beauty pageant" days [lollll].

>>4620878
Forgot my tripcode lol

>>4620879
And the second person is actually mistaken I think because there are small differences between the one she linked and the seller's.

>>4620890
Either way, do you want hers for $20? Or the almost exactly the same one for $5?

>>4620922
Lol I wasn't defending, I was just saying I don't think they're identical. The first person who said she got her tiara from primark for 3 pounds linked one that looks completely identical to the one the seller has up in her post.

http://egl-comm-sales.livejournal.com/15298904.html
why the fuck is she selling Primark socks at double their price; each pair is about 2€ each; why would you pay 3€+shipping for them?

Tbh, I'm starting to hate all lolitas. They're racist idiots. The other day in the weeaboostories thread someone actually thought it would be a great idea for someone to wear lolita in their high school yearbook picture. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME. It seems all ~kawaii~ and shit when you're 15 but when you're actually a fucking adult you'll regret it so hard.

Also I just saw the youtube clip of the lolita episode of What Not to Wear and all of the comments were people hating on Stacy and Clinton because they thought some 30 year old girl shouldn't be dressing like a porcelain doll.

God, lolitas are fucking stupid. I used to think the dresses were cute, but even the "nice" lolitas are dumb as all fuck. Ugh.

yes i mad

>>4620969
lol how you had no proof of racism so had to back it up with a nonsensical ramble

>>4620969
At 15- it frankly doesn't matter. If they want to wear that in their yearbook photo, fantastic. I have a picture of myself that had to be redone (due to really bad photoshopping- wth company) and I had the worst hair dye on the planet , I don't think I had showered that morning, and a transformers t-shirt.
Do I regret it?
No.
Because it was a school book photo when I was 16. No one /cares/. It didn't have any effect on my life, and no one really even noticed it.
It proves to me that I was a weeaboo when I was 16. It didn't have an effect on how I enjoyed life then, and it doesn't now.
I somehow doubt it will matter to these 15 year old girls either.

>>4620969
Dude, it's just a stupid yearbook. No one cares about it. You will probably just laugh about it in the future and that;s about it

>>4620969

Aourai. The one with the fucking bandana headdresses on her dA. And trying to sell oddly proportion JSK's.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/75173217/coffee-dress?ref=v1_other_1

And using not only a contrasting ruffle but a contrasting waistband is sort of her trademark.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/75173705/spring-green-garden-skirt-with-ruffle?ref=v1_other_1

What scares me is that there used to be three of this:
http://www.etsy.com/listing/75172915/ruffled-coffee-skirts

Vendetta for poor sewing skills, poor personality, and general fail.

>>4620969
I didn't say it would be a great idea, I said, if it's reflective of your personality, and who are, why shouldn't you wear it? If you wear lolita every day, why should you change it for some stupid photos you give to your friends? If as an adult, you look back at your photos and regret them, you must have deeper problems than bad photos.

The example I gave was meow-tan, if she were to wear a 'blouse and slacks' don't you think that would be odd for her, because it's not who she is?

You honestly have no idea how to read. Go ahead, hate all lolitas, but your hatred is unfounded.

Not really a vendetta, but I only ever see this person posting on the secrets, I got curious and clicked to find the most special snowflake profile info ever:
http://urwen-sakurafu.livejournal.com/profile

>>4620998

oh shit, I bought a half bonnet from her at ACen.

>>4621017
She has some rare good pieces, but with how much she's worked on she should really be a better designer by now.

>>4620998
FFFFFFFF she is so bad... Her clothes embody everything I hate about lolita handmades (and I love handmade stuff, just hate shit like hers)

>>4620969
>racist
>something that has nothing to do with race

dalaranhime, is that you?

>>4620423
If her fiance hates her, why is he her fiance?

>>4621023

I see that. my half bonnet is actually pretty neat (although personally I think it could use starching) but I'd never buy any of the clothes she makes. I actually considered using her to be my main custom commissions source before I saw her Etsy.

>>4620825
GULITY
(the picture part)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6zDygujgj4

WHEN IN DOUBT, PINKY OUT!

>>4620998

She's such a sweet girl, but I can't bring myself to really purchase from her. Maybe a bonnet or something, maybe a JSK in a solid color. The dress she wore at ACen wasn't terrible.

>>4621031
You're welcome, then?

>>4621026

Apparently he made some stupid rule for himself after his last relationship that the next girl he dated he would marry.

I really shouldn't say anymore though, this could be damning enough, although watching this trainwreck is going to be very interesting.

>>4621038
I have to admit, some of her bows don't look terrible. One or too could be cute if she'd taken the time to hide the freaking seams. I haven't seen any of her bonnets so I can't comment there.

>>4621041
OH, I've met guys like that. I never really understood it. Its a romantic idea and all, making your first girlfriend your last or something, but rarely ideal in real life.

>>4621047

Underneath her questionable fabric choices, her construction could be way worse. She made a ruffle underskirt that was nice, albeit in a weird color. And again, her solid-color JSKs are pretty cute too. But the prints...not so much.

>>4621047

looking at the half bonnet now, it could be better. the sewing is fine, but the ruffle is a little odd and the bows on the end of the headband go over the ears in a sort of awkward way. I think the ruffle issue would be fixed if I starched and ironed it so it stands up instead of forward.

it's not horrible, and at the very least I now have an example to look at of how to construct my own. I'll probably still wear it though. it's solid black so no peculiar choice of pattern here.

>>4621055

it seems like he figures since he's getting older, he should settle down, but he's a guy- he could wait a hell of a lot longer if kids are on his mind, and this is not the sort of woman to handle children...dammit, I said I wouldn't go into it anymore. I have no idea if she reads /cgl/ or not and even though I don't particularly like her...you know. I'm still talking behind her back.

>>4620969
I'm chiming in and agreeing with pretty much everyone on the yearbook photo bits. I looked like Joe Fatone if he were a girl and shopped at Hot Topic.

As for Stacy and Clinton? I like ripping on them because half the time their makeovers leave something to be desired because they slap whatever's hot on the runway onto their subject. I also don't like that they don't take the person's personal taste or lifestyle into account. (Goths in pastels? Orthodox Jewish girls in short skirts? Moms on the playground in pumps? Wat?) Plus they're just unreasonably bitchy and snotty when they don't need to be.

I worship at the altar of Gunn anyway. He is one of the classiest individuals in the industry.

>>4621089

this. I used to watch What Not To Wear and looking back on it, they just sucked all the personality out of these people, made them look pretty generic most of the time instead of giving them a new style they might actually like.

>>4621089
It's not even what's hot on the runaway. It's usually boring, generic clothing. Sometimes it is a little better than the victim originally wore.

I haven't watched the show in a long time though.

I can't stand listerenepree and am glad she left the scene for the most part. Aside from the people like crystalmoon who are so pants-on-the-head retarded that everyone hates them, no one really gets under my skin.

I dislike certain traits though. Among these includes but is not limited to:

-armchair social justice advocates
-individuals with a strong moral compass who try and push their systems of morals on other people high, loud, and repeatedly.
-anyone with an "I am angry and important" mentality that perceives themselves as having above-average intelligence and therefore talks down to all the peons they're apparently surrounded by.

If anyone has these three traits, they're bound to annoy me until I forget who they are and am reminded again.

>>4621156

I think you just listed what sets most of /cgl/ off, honestly, because I agree with you that those are very annoying traits.

Poor Sellers.

I wouldn't say I have a vendetta, but I really dislike littlesebastian. The way she's treated and spoken to some of the members of my local community was pretty crappy so I've decided to steer clear of her.

Actually, I think I might have seen her recently. Or it could have been another woman who looks a lot like her that sneered at me while I was wearing Lolita. We've never officially "met" and if that wasn't her, then I doubt she even knows I exist.

>>4621009
good god I couldn't make it halfway through that garbage profile

>>4621205
SHE'S THE WORST.

>>4621205
Urgh she recently started a total hissy fit with one of my friends simply because the cutsew she wanted was sold to another buyer before she got to it :/

>>4621205
If that really was her you saw and you see her again, be careful. Her and her husband have supposedly threatened other lolitas in your community iirc.

it could just be an internet tough guy act, but you never knew with some people.

>>4621009
>>born in 1982
>>mfw she's 4 years older than me and acts like I did when I was 14.

>>4620969
Shit man, you're right. That is racist! Oh man high school photos are the white mans way of keeping down minorities....amirite?

No...seriously...what?

>>4621294
Threats? Really? Like, actual threats of physical bodily harm? I think I've heard about just about everything else, but I haven't heard that. When did this happen?

btssb whiteknights tsu_ and idealia, holy shit so annoying. Especially now that tsu_ just backpedaled after getting her ass handed to her.

>>4621404
seconded on tsu_. Think first, then open mouth.

>>4621434
She back pedaled? Where?

I vendetta against an idiot in my local community. We had some personal nonloli drama a few years ago, made up with kisses and hugs, and now she's been the same fucking idiot she was years ago.

Plus, she's a terrible loli. I'm honestly convinced she's in it to get the kawaii~ reaction from weeaboos, not because she loves the fashion at all

>>4621377
her fiancee said that her friends couldn't wait to see video of lilseb, beating up this one girl. it is STILL on her fb wall.

>>4621454
same thread she made on the baby shoe post - now she's saying "oh oh well I'm not saying they didn't give bad service, I'm just saying, y;'know, if she wants her stuff back..." so she went from BABY IS RIGHT YOU DIDN'T ACT THE WAY YOU SHOULD HAVE to ohh ohh no I agree, btssb was in the wrong...

Sellers who lie about item quality with fake photos.

>>4621205
She's nuts. My friend put up something for sale and she harangued them about everything from the price itself to shipping to how it would be packaged - it was a freaking pair of socks, not a $800 dress.

>>4620423
I think I know who this is about.

>>4621484
That's kind of messed up, to say the least. It's hard to pinpoint exactly what part of that comment is the worst, but I think the talk of video taping it wins by a nose. Now that I think about it, I vaguely remember hearing that her fiance made some similar remarks. I couldn't find the source so I could see for myself, so I just supposed it was a rumor up until now.

>>4620423
I am pretty sure I know who it is about too. And I can't help but sort of agree even though it makes me feel kinda bad. :(

>>4621009
>>Her spelling is impecable, and she often corrects the spelling and grammer of others'. She hates misplaced possessive apostrophes with a fiery, fiery passion.
>>others'
>>She hates misplaced possessive apostrophes
>>OTHERS'

Also this is Rabbit777, yes?

>>4621641
Bad for her fiance, you mean.

To >>4621609 and all other lolitas in Georgia how do you guys keep getting the crazies? It was like you guys were trying to take the title for "most totally batshit members" from NY for a while or something like that. I remember the stuff from the hatememe about her and how she was banned around then but has she been banned for good or does she still show up to meets and shit like that? I see secrets that I think are about her and stuff too does she seriously have no friends in her city?

>>4621404
http://egl.livejournal.com/17461361.html?thread=391921265#t391921265

oh my god

>>4621723
banned for good, end of story

Waiting for my power to go out. How holding up Chicago area lolis? We're about to get shit on by a storm.

>>4621748
LOL! Whatthefuck? Herp derp.

>>4621748
A business is no place to cry about hurt feelings. You deal with a pissy customer (which I do not feel amethystcitrine was) calmly and professionally and then you complain about 'that bitch' over drinks later that night. You don't jump on them in a business e-mail. idealia needs to join the grown up world and learn about international business practices.

You know what. I no longer feel rage. Only pity. I hope neither tsu_ nor idealia ever have to get a job in merchandising, or international transactions, or anything dealing with money - ever.

>>4621825
You know what's ironic? Idealia briefly worked at btssb in san francisco. lol.

>>4621847
That would explain why people have sometimes received such shit service from them.

Is idealia a mod?

>>4621857
I hope not!

>>4621857
Used to be, stepped down after whiteknighting cruxcommissa.

>>4621878
Oh? Details?

>>4621878
Okay, I was right then. I thought her name was familiar.

>>4621880
Crux - if you don't know - scammed quite a few girls in the community. He was taking commissions for chandelier replica skirts, but was not delivering them on time. He took... two orders, I believe, and when he took the second he still wasn't finished with most of the skirts from the first over. He gave excuse after excuse, BS after BS... the girls who ordered within his area got their skirts, but other than that, most people were left with little to no communication and no skirt.

Someone made a post about him almost a year into the mess, and people were commenting about how unprofessional his behavior was, and idealia started shutting it down saying people weren't allowed to talk negatively about his actions because it was "slander" against him.

Also interesting - one of his other whiteknights, princesaru, who called the girls who wanted their money, skirts, or just some freakin' communication "fat bitches" - also worked at the SF baby store.

>>4621880
....was it really that long ago? I think I'm becoming an oldfag.

Sage because I already can feel everyone about to jump on me:

I read amethystcitrine's email as "your shoes suck, I've been a loyal customer for ages but I'm not buying your shoes anymore." You know what, even I would have said to such an email "well then don't buy our shoes anymore", and I would have been equally confused if I saw the return email of "how can you treat loyal customers like this, I must let the international lolita community know of this."

Amethystcitrine didn't actually ask for anything in the email. All she did was a "I am not buying from you again". Even though she didn't ask for anything they apaprently should have pre-emptively given her the "right" answer because then she came back with threatening to tell everyone.

I'd fucking understand if it was a request for replacing or refunding the product that was denied, but what the fuck did amethystcitrine expect out of a "lol not buying your shit anymore"?

Also, Japanese companies send their domestic customers letters in keigo (polite form) and it looks like the lack of language skills makes it sound extremely buttmad, but couched in however many polite forms, the message is going to be the same. Same goes with amethystcitrine's original email - even though she may have worded it politely, in the end it was a juvenile and rather insulting email saying 'your shoes suck and you just lost a loyal customer'

My boyfriend cheated on me with another lolita from my local community. I've never said anything to her about it, but I can't help resenting her for it.

>>4621910
Wrong thread girl.

>>4621918
You should just say something to her about it and get over it. Resentment like that can lead itself into retarded situations later on when the other gilr thinks you're over it and you're not, then something major happens. If you plan to continue going to the local comm meets, you should just clear the air.

>>4621763

it's barely raining here (in the city).

>>4621910
I took her email as: "I've been a loyal customer because I love your quality, but these shoes fell apart really fast, so I'm hesitant about making further purchases... here are some pictures to show what I mean."

A business that responds to this with "Well your feet must be too wide, we have never had any problems, so don't buy our shoes anymore" to a complaint about quality is a shitty business, imo. She shouldn't have to baby Baby through the proper steps of customer service.

>>4621938
I rarely see her. I don't see the point in bringing it up. It'll just cause more drama which I don't want.

>>4621847
do you know what irony is?

>>4621971
only one thing worse than someone using irony incorrectly: the inevitable "that's not what irony means!" comment

well. spiders are also worse. and bees. killer bees.

>>4621984
Oh fuck, killer bees. That hasn't been in the news for awhile. I remember watching a bunch of dramas on it as a kid.

>>4621999
according to killer bee documentaries in 1995, they should be up to Ohio by now! God damn it, 1990s documentaries.

>>4621910
Okay, I genuinely curious now... /How/ did infer that from her e-mails? Let's break it down:

>Hi there! First, I would like to say that I have been a customer of Baby for a few years now, and own several dresses from both Baby the Stars Shine Bright and Alice and the Pirates. I love them and wear them all the time, which is why I trust the quality of your brand.
Polite, even chipper.

>Recently I purchased your Strawberry Cake Shoes, size L, in brown. I am a bit upset because after only wearing them for a few hours, they are completely ruined. I assure you I did not do much walking or strenuous activity.
>Still sounds reasonable. She's upset, but she also received a defective product for her $200. No capslock. No wild accusations.

>The shoes are coming apart at the front, the straps are fraying on all sides, the toes have been scuffed too easily and beyond repair. These shoes suddenly look like they have been worn for years. I am not sure what to expect from telling you this,
Alright, she's fishing for a refund here. Waiting for them to suggest it. Admittedly, not the best idea. It's too subtle for a correspondent that might have English as a second language.

>but I am very upset that my brand new shoes fell apart so quickly, which makes me hesitate to order from your company again.
She said hesitate. Things aren't irreparable yet. Still, perhaps to subtle in tone. She also didn't accuse them of selling her something faulty on purpose.

>You will find photos attached proving what I tell you; I included a photo of the soles of the shoes to show you how little I have worn them.
And trying to provide proof.

Sorry, this sounds like a subtle, grown-up response to a problem. The biggest issue is it's TOO subtle. The tone is polite, but stern. An English speaker would have picked up that she's disappointed, but not inconsolable.

>>4622011

>I am honestly shocked that a business would go out of their way to insult a customer like this.
Sure, she probably should have thought there was a miscommunication, but it's not so far-fetched to think she might feel insulted after being told she probably has wide feet.

>How could you possibly know the measurements of my feet? I have been wearing size 24.5 for years now. I assure you that is not the problem here. I will be letting the international lolita community how you treat loyal customers with genuine problems.
Oh nooooes! She's going to leave a *gasp* review!!! That's all it is. A review. Companies get negative ones all the F*ing time, for a lot less justifiable reasons than this. Threatening to sue? Really? BtSSB sounds like they're 16 or something.

Even if she did say, "Your shoes suck!" BABY should have responded with, "Sorry you feel that way. We're sorry to hear you wont be doing business with us." YOU KEEP IT POLITE! I don't care if the customer hurt your feelings. YOU'RE A BUSINESS, NOT A LITTLE GIRL! It is on you, the business, to be the calm and professional one. If you, as a customer service rep, had said "well then don't buy our shoes anymore" to one of my customers, I'd have fired your ass. As a business, yeah, you get shit from customers! You get nasty e-mails! But you deal with them like a adult and a professional. BABY handled this like a defensive individual, not a business entity.

>>4621958
Btssb didn't say your feet MUST BE too wide, simply suggested that it was a common issue their customers had for damage of that type.

It wasn't a complaint about quality. the email was just saying 'I might not be a loyal customer anymore.' If she says "I might not buy your shoes in the future", then the response of "well, then, don't buy our shoes in the future" only makes sense.

Realistically speaking, what did you expect Baby to say or do? Issue a refund/exchange to a customer that only provdided a name and didn't even sound like they wanted one? Recall all of its shoes? Grovel and apologise for a problem that appears to be one-off?

>>4622011
Again, what obtuse "polite form" it is couched in doesn't matter. She effectively said "Your shoes suck, I'm not going to tell you what it is that you need to do but I am making vague threats here to take my custom away." It doesn't matter if she ended it with a dearie or cheerio, she wrote an incredibly confusing letter that vaguely ended with "I'm not gonna buy, you might be able to make me change your mind but nuh-uh I am not telling what it is I want".

>>4622013
>I will be letting the international lolita community how you treat loyal customers with genuine problems.

Again, what the fuck was her problem? Did she want a refund? A recall of the product? An exchange of the product? For the Isobe family to kowtow to her and film it on youtube? Where was the genuine problem to be addressed?

>>4622046
And I still don't see your point. Even if being polite is irrelevant in your universe, it's still on BtSSB to be the calm and professional ones. She could have baaaw'd and screamed through her entire letter, and BABY still should have responded in a mature manner.

And if they couldn't tell "what her problem" was, then they should have inquired. "What would you like us to do?" is not that hard to type.

I hate faerydragonet, that bitch talks shit about people's coords yet looks like shit herself. She looks like a man in a fucking dress, and not a pretty man, an ugly old ass man.

yes I mad, that ugly manbitch rubbed me the wrong way

>>4622046
Okay, going by this logic, someone saying "Hi, I really liked the dress I bought from you but it fell apart in a day" is saying "Wow you fucking cunt your dress is a piece of shit it fell apart in a day I HATE YOU."

Baby should have asked what she would like for them to do, not said "Welp, we never had any problems, so obviously the shoes didn't fit your wide feet! Don't buy our shoes, kay?"

>>4622011
>>4622013
Ah, but to the btssb whiteknights, she should have prostrated at their feet and said step by step what she please, oh please, oh pretty please wanted done if their highnesses would permit it.

This chick. Miyuki418.

She has such a fucking awful martyr's attitude. I just can't stand her.

>>4621009
>'Her spelling is impecable, and she often corrects the spelling and grammer of others'.
>grammER

HA

>>4622207
Impeccable is spelled incorrectly too. Just sayin'.

>>4622046
This has butthurt Baby employee or Brandwhore Vendetta-chan written all over ir

>>4621205
I agree, can't stand that bitch.

>>4622046
>Again, what obtuse "polite form" it is couched in doesn't matter.

Uh, yes, being polite does matter. She said what she said, not what you've exaggerated it to, and up until they told her "don't buy our shoes" and blamed the problem on her, she was polite. Even her short response letter afterward was fairly calm, considering they didn't try to remedy the situation at all. It's been said before, but Japanese people aren't retarded. The worker that read her emails isn't retarded. It does not take a genius in customer service to reply: All right, what would you propose be a solution to this problem?

>Again, what the fuck was her problem?

Gasp! She let them know she was going to leave a review of their service on an international community? That bitch!

I find it hilarious that you are sidestepping the behavior of the Btssb worker in all of this, though. Do you work for them? One of the people afraid they'll shut down their English webpage?

>>4622222
Well that was the one I noticed first. Also, sweet quints.

>>4622293
who?

>>4622295
Sorry, that was a misfire. Meant for the yoshh thread.

>>4621999
What fire ants, those motherfuckers...

>>4622070
It doesn't matter how fucking polite she is, for the nth time, because she didn't ask for anything. She just told Baby that she was not going to buy their shoes. There was no "genuine problem" brought to the table.

Why should Baby ask her what her problem was anyway? Logically speaking, any warranty or guarantee on clothing expire once it has been worn. It would be nice of amethystcitrine to get a refund or replacement product from Baby, but once she wore it, there's no obligation for them to give it to her.

>>4622177
No, if she wanted a refund or an exchange she should have said so instead of rambling about being a loyal customer or not buying anymore.

>>4622225
See? I knew it.

>>4622239
If I call you a total bitch, just because I add a fucking smilie or add "dearie" at the end doesn't make it any less of an insult. She said their shoes sucked and as a result she might not be a loyal customer anymore. Adding polite form doesn't change that - which you seem to acknowledge with Baby (taking away all their "may be" and "could be" into a "must" and "is") but somehow not with amethystcitrine.

Fact of the matter is - even if Baby wrote their responses in incredibly formal English (I suspect the whole thing was originally drafted in keigo and then translated but who knows really), it doesn't change the net effect. amethystcitrine asked for NOTHING and got NOTHING. What's the butthurt?

>>4622375
Wow. Way to not address /anything/ I said. Gonna repeat myself here: it's still on BtSSB to be the calm and professional ones.

I didn't say they should give her a refund. I said they should have asked after their customers desires. Doesn't mean they have to meet those desires, but it's not hard to ask.

And they're the business entity here. It's in their best interest (as we've all seen now) to be polite and try to find a quiet solution. If that means asking, "What do you think should be done?" and then saying "We understand, but sadly can not do anything" then that's what they should have done.

... Wait a minute. You're so irrational it's suspicious. Oh, fuck. You're totally a troll. Congratulations. You got me.

>>4622185

I hate this bitch too. She makes me ashamed to be a fat lolita, because her outfits are horrible, her pictures are awful, and she's a complete bitch when you try to give her con crit.

>>4622375
>Why should Baby ask her what her problem was anyway?

Because.. they're a business?

You keep saying she was like OMIGAWWW, YOUR SHOES SUCK BITCHES and added "politeness" to ~*~cover the bitchiness~*~ but she didn't. She described the shoes poor condition after one wear, and provided evidence. She was polite. Your analogies don't make any sense. It's also hilarious because your logic applies to Baby, too - but oh wait, they're your precious employer--I mean, burando that is completely unrelated to you in every way--so they can do and say whatever they want, right?

>>4622375
Japanese people aren't retarded, but I'm pretty sure you might be. It is up to a BUSINESS to be professional like a BUSINESS, not expect the customer to tip toe and smile and give them a piece by piece instruction of what to do when it comes to customer service.

Let's say I bought a pair of $200 shoes from a store that I frequently buy from, wore them once, and they were scuffed and ruined. I took pictures, then packed them up and took them to the store.

Me: Hi! I've been shopping here for ages because I love the quality, but I bought these shoes the other day... I wore them once, and they were ruined! I'm really disappointed because normally the quality is much higher, so I'm kind of hesitant about making further purchases right now.

Now, what would be the normal, sane customer service response to me saying this?

a) Never happened to me before, your feet must be too wide, don't buy our shoes then!

or

b) That's unusual, because we haven't received any quality complaints on these shoes! What would you like us to do?

If you said a, you're wrong! If you said b, congratulations, you have an ounce of common sense. Your entire argument is hinging on the fact that because she assumed Btssb, as a business, would have common business sense and ddn't spell out what she wanted, she was obviously just being a horrid bitch who was threatening to kill their puppies.

>>4622375
She never said their shoes sucked
She said one pair of shoes was of subpar quality
I call troll or Btssb worker/diehard fan

How come you can pick apart her statement as being rude, but you come up with excuses for Baby's rude ass customer service?

I can't stand Frances.

>>4622727
Ah, Frances. Isn't someone keeping an eye on her and her sock puppets?

>>4622770
Yes. Although at this point, it's believed that it's no longer the original Frances, but the same person who uses the name to troll on 4chan.

>>4622770

She has that 'girlinsilkies' name on LJ.

>>4622781
As a Missouri lolita, I can say that the LJ people associate with her is in fact the one banned for her bigoted real life shenanigans and the main reason we have our own comm rather than being in the other midwest/CoMo LJ comms.

>>4622781

She posts her facebook on Livejournal so it can't be a troll.

>>4622815
Except that it's not hard to make a fake facebook account. Look at all the Milanoo accounts that are floating around.

I'm pissed at everyone who's not selling things. I finally have money for new things and no one is selling anything.

>>4622813
No, I'm aware of the bans. Like was said on the comm, though:

>I don't want to scare any of you, but I figure it was worth putting you on your guard. In all likelihood, she's probably just a troll, but it's better to be safe than sorry, especially with so many younger lolitas.

>>4622832

Frances's facebook doesn't even look new.

>>4622868
I'm one of the mo_egl members who's been keeping track of her and I'm really not convinced that it's the real one at this point. Partly because the drama with the real Frances occurred in 2008, at which point she disappeared.

It wasn't until about nine months later, in 2009, that sock puppets started "suddenly" appearing when the lolita in Missouri that she had harassed posted about it. Assuming that this Frances is fake, that's about two years for the troll to have been established, long enough to fake the Facebook account and all the sock puppets. There have also been a few, unrelated accounts that have the same pattern of posting and eeriely similar info pages which tried to friend me and at least a couple of other MO lolitas.

I used to despise rabbit777, czol, vomitrocity, etc. Now, I find myself understanding where rabbit777 is coming from half the time. Czol's still a bitch, but she's usually bitching at a person I don't like anyway, so she's tolerable. Vomitrocity seems to have either toned down or has just been coincidentally not showing up in threads I've read lately.
There's this one girl named lovelyparasite that was a complete and utter bitch, but she dissapeared.

Some well-meaning lolita created a Facebook group for our community and it's quickly been overrun by weaboos who have pictures of themselves in lace monsters and constantly spam the group with unrelated crap. I hope they don't overrun our meet-ups. One of them posted something about Bodyline being the only brand that makes sense to buy from. I hate reverse brand snobs like that...buying brand doesn't make me an idiot, and if you really wanna be practical, don't wear Lolita at all.

>>4622980
I forgot to attach it TT_TT

I had a batshit cray cray girl who contacted me through one of the lolita personals/penpal posts I had up. She seemed nice enough, but when the conversationg turned to lolita, she mentioned that she got stuff from milanoo, and I was nice about it, but I essentially said that she was really lucky not to get a piece of shit.

After a few more exchanges (I think I said something about preferring to save up to get a nice brand dress) she pretty much started screaming at me (or TYPING IN ALL CAPS) about how brand is a waste of money (even said Bodyline was too expensive), and that you can get so many more dresses if you get something cheap.

>mfw

>>4622815

She posted in lavieclassique on Livejournal and she isn't even lolita.

>>4622165
This. So. FUCKING. Hard.

There is also someone who recently came into our comm... and I feel like she is destroying it from within. She complains about the meet-ups, she talks shit about EVERYONE behinds their backs, always leaves within an hour or so... it's hard to enjoy anything with her around. I hope to all goodness she leaves lolita like she said she was going to... I feel bad for the 2 lolitas she hangs around, forces them to leave early too and one of them is a really good friend of mine.

GET OUT OF MY COMM YOUR RUINING A GOOD THING.

>>4622890

I still think it's the real one. There is no doubt in my mind.

>>4620436
To the anons talking about Bunny Lolita Chan, I think I know who you are.
I'm no sewing expert, but her choice of fabric irritates me to no end. And this picture has always scared me.

>>4622662
omg it makes me feel warm and fuzzy to know tenleid is average at best. i fucking hate her posting reaction images with fucking everything, worthless fucking trips. piplup is different because it's just a pokemon it doesn't know any better.

sage because I don't want trips coming in here and fagging evrything up.

I hate everyone who submits stupid shit stirring secrets. this fucking baby drama is going to result in 10000 secrets that aren't secrets, just opinions.

>mfw I really enjoy squaredancing and keep seeing it being made fun of on /cgl/

>>4623697
Dude. Greasemonkey. Since I blocked tripfags/namefags on the global filter, I've been in heaven.

>>4623697
god dammit this.
i love Oreimo and seeing that bitch use it constantly is disheartening.
she can't sew for shit and i'm getting sick of her shoving her nose into everything. tryharder to be a part of the community, why dontcha.

>>4623795
I feel like even if I stripped out the trips, their horrible personalities would still show through. In another thread a trip dropped theirs, and chimed in about something anon. As I was reading it, I was like "whoever wrote this is fucking stupid." sure enough, on refresh the next comment was "oops dropped my trip". the comment had nothing about it that would have been improved by a trip.

>>4620821
There was one post she made where she had chocolate stains all over the hands she was holding her shitty tiara with and was like "lol cravings~". BITCH WASH YOUR GODDAMN HANDS.

Ugh. This girl. She is the ex of one of my friends. She decided we should be friends. I'm like "okay cool. when ya wanna hang out?" We set up a time and place. Then I get a text asking to wear full out lolita. Im like "dood. I only own gothic lolita clothing. It's going to be over 80F and the humidity is going to be bad too... sorry but i cant."... Bitch complained every day up until the day we were gonna meet saying she wants to wear loli with me... I decided not to meet up with her...

I'm not risking my health cause you wanna play dress up bitch. Be reasonable. You aren't a little fucking princess, you can't get your way all the time.

The best part is... Her dresses are all off ebay from china... Theyre horrible and she doesnt even have a petticoat. D: She even has pics of her in "lolita" where you can see her shit when she is sitting. Down. No class.

It ain't Lolita, but swiper can go fuck herself. Refusing highfives and shit. Burn in hell bitch.

>>4624054
stop ruining our threads with trip shit

>>4621665
Every post Rabbit777 makes is annoying.
She's fat, ugly and she doesn't wear knickers with her bloomers.
Even her icon annoys me.
Has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
Vendetta 100% complete.

>>4624048
She sounds terrible, but you sound like a major bitch yourself. WTF do you agree to hang out with people that you don't like, think they have no class etc.?

>>4624068
I thought she seemed cool at first until she got all pushy about it...
Never went through her pics on FB until after we didnt meet up. I wanted to see what her dresses looked like cause she said she was going to be wearing GL too and I didnt understand how she could be okay going all out when it's that hot... turns out GL for her is just the dress... I see now why she wouldnt have a problem.

>>4624048
Haha, I would consider 80F to be blessed cool. Not saying that you should dress up when you don't want to, but if you don't have a medical condition, claiming that wearing lolita in 80+F will damage your health is a bit dramatic.

Hmm well there are a few that come to mind.

mizz_charmed - she just so rude and comes across as if she really likes to pick on newbies.
czol - pff peas in a pod with mizz_charmed!
vomitrocity - rubs me the wrong way, but she seems very quiet lately.
sniper_nyan - racist, nuff said! glad she is banned.

Other than those, there are a few that irritate me but I don't vendetta-chan hate them.
I think Meow-Tan is cute, but her arrogance ruins her cuteness a bit, but I don't really mind her.
Some give me the lolz, like pinkzombies, and the occasional trolls, etc.
Plenty of nice people around too btw.

jerrysugarav pisses me off. she acts like she's god's gift to lolita, but she's just a troll.

>>4624063
Its not even trip shit. I didn't trip when I met her, and I didn't know she did trip. But she's a bitch that refused me a highfive. Fucking whores.

>>4624091
Well, it was 80F+ and with high humidity. They pretty much told old people to stay inside in the AC and everyone else to not push themselves if they have to be outside and to drink lots of water, wear cool clothing, take breaks, etc... And I'm not acclimated to where I'm living... I'm pretty much a pussy when it comes to handling heat and humidity.... But IDC about wearing shorts and a tank in the winter...

I wish she could have just let it go when I said I didnt want to go full out. I even offered casual... -sigh-

>>4624098
I live in the south where there is a lot of humidity as well, and I've been to meet ups when the temperature was 80+F, and unless you're in long sleeves and tights, I can't see how it would be dangerous to the average person's health. Please understand that I'm not defending that girl, though. Once she heard that you were not comfortable with it, she should have dropped it. It's pushing 103F outside today, and I'd laugh at anyone who wanted me to dress in full gothic lolita.

>>4624093
Details? I never really paid much attention to her...

>>4623222
I thought I knew who I was talking to earlier in the thread and was wrong, so you may not be thinking of the right people yourself. Bunny seems to have more haters than I realized, though to be honest, I think it's pretty deserved.

Girl's obnoxious as hell, doesn't take critique and has some seriously creepy as shit behavior.

>>4623222
Also, if you are who I think you are, don't worry about being ripped on. Only Adrian and Katie are deserving of being posted to /cgl/. And to be honest, I'd love to ask the Rochester lolitas what Katie's like in person, because online I just want to slap her silly.

>>4624093
lol no she doesn't. you clearly don't know her at all.

>>4622868

Frances's facebook is full of talk about pantyhose and pencil skirts.

>>4624092

I've heard of vomit, but all these other names are new, got any more details?

>>4624293
Um...I think you're the one that's new.

czol has been trolling around for a long time, sniper has her own getoffegl tag. meow+tan has been around for a little while as well. the only ones even remotely new are mizz charmed and pinkzombies, and pz has been around for about a year and gets posted here all the time.

She irritates me very much.

>>4624347
I always thought that icon was her. I was very surprised to find out that it's not her at all!

>>4624511

Hahah me too!

The loli secret mods are starting to get on my nerves. Most of them can't post on time, and the other ones come across as pretentious bitches, like the one that posted a wall of text with last weeks secrets.

>>4624347

Yes, her and a list I have of other chicks that constantly comment on sales posts but never buy anything. They drive me absolutely insane.

EVERY LOLITA IS A BITCH.

>>4624571
I know many lolitas who are very kind. They just don't get complained about on /cgl/.

>>4624553
The "wall of text" was meant to be informative and clear up the fact that the community does not and never will have iplogging on. Sorry that the text to pictures ratio was too high for you to manage!
>not that mod though, just white knighting

>>4623222

I'm not really active, so idk if you know me or not.
But, damn, I really really cannot stand her.

I...fuckin...hate...iomoo. Yeah I know she's some ditsy 14 year old, but GOD does her blog sound like some speshul snowflake crap. And whenever she comments, she always has to bring out her age "I'm 14 but I already know whats ita and whats not!~~~" I can't stand her...

>>4624936
I wonder if she'll ever sell that awkward looking blouse. I wouldn't pay more than $25 for the misshapen thing.

>>4624347
Ugh... I hate the way she types... it's all "Imma do this" and "I unno". And her vendetta against oojia is lulzy.

>>4624936
Lol yeah she irritates me sometimes. I've seen her make stupidly low offers or forget to pay and then be ~super sad~ all over egl_comm_sales and angelicpoodle when the item sells to someone else. No shit the sellers sold to someone who could pay full price or someone who paid on time..

I know I was just as dumb when I was 14 so I don't hate her or anything, it just makes me facepalm a little

I hate pretty much every easily-offended lolita that will fly off the handle at the tiniest misstep to b'awww about privilege of any kind. that whole snozz_berry vs. fashionbabylon wank from a few months back was very enlightening to me. don't get me wrong, I dislike fashionbabs and the other end of the spectrum was just as stupid, but I feel like faggotry disguised as intellectualism is worse than just plain faggotry. idgaf if you're convinced you know everything because you're really proud of the a- you got in your soc 101 class. kindly gb2sf_drama so you and all your friends can spend all day agreeing with each other.

also: who was half expecting the trolls from sf_d to post trigger warnings when they spammed us with guro/crime scene pictures? lol

>>4624987
How is a 14-year-old even able to buy stuff?

>>4624553
>I was too lazy to read the post and find out why there was a wall of text

>>4625031
Oh god, snozz_berry... There is *nothing* anyone can say that won't offen snozz_berry... cause s/he is a black disabled lesbian transgender lolita who gets into all sorts of arguments on controversial subjects like abortion in LJ comms :O

>>4625073
I don't know how she does, but when I was 14 I would save my birthday and Christmas money. Sometimes I babysat for my neighbors too.

>>4625073
i don't know.

i couldn't even afford to by lolita until i was out of highschool.

>>4625204
buy*
herp derp.

>>4625136

And he claims to be pregnant.

I think it's been established that they're a faker, because come on...

>>4624987
Her parents gave her a debit card with money she can spend on pretty much anything. Pretty much she's loaded. Here's her blog:http://iomoo.wordpress.com/

>>4625162
Man, with the kind of money I got for holidays, I would have had to save up for 3 years just to buy Bodyline. And my mom wouldn't let me get a job.

Fuck all you job-working, allowance-getting 14 year olds. I'm jelly. Or would be if I weren't out of school and having a decent amount of money now. But I'm getting nostalgia jelly. Or whatever you would call it.

>>4624324

Yea I meant "new to me" not just new, my bad. But thanks for the info? Though it didn't give much detail!

>>4624936

Iomoo and girls like kun_ta_ta, they comment on almost every fucking AP sales post, and you might as well ignore them, because they never actually buy anything, they just want to ask you lots of stupid ass questions. Lots of WTB posts from certain people annoy me too, I think people are even less likely to sell you something when you post that much because one, you're annoying as shit and 2. you never want to buy anything anyway, so why on earth would we want to get into negotiations with you?

drflumflum is so dim. Every time she posts, it's dumber than the last.

>>4620414
This.
I don't I have ever been as angry at someone as I have with her.

There is another cosplayer that makes me rage. But mainly for the hurt she has caused to a best friend.

>>4625866

I bought a dress from kun_ta_ta recently. It arrived promptly but it was horribly wrinkled due to her squishing it into a tiny bag.

Its obviously not a big deal but I've never received a dress so ... crumpled up before. lol

>>4625584
I'm with you, anon. I came to realize in my teens I couldn't even rely on much Christmas/birthday money from grandparents either because they gave more to my 5 and 3-year-old cousins because we lived out of state and couldn't visit often.
And when I tried to get a job, my parents wouldn't give me any help. I asked for my Social security number and it turned out they lost my card. They couldn't even bother to print out the damn form so I could get a new SSC so I could get a job.
At the same time I would get yelled at because everyone else went to work every day and I didn't do anything at home (I did do stuff, but they wouldn't bother to even notice) over the summer.

>>4626461

Oh yeah, agreed

>>4622770

What are her sock puppets? D:

>>4627510
Most of them have been deleted, but the most recent one was girlinsilkies. She's been banned from mo_egl, the oldschool lolitas community and a few others already, so there'll likely be a new one soon.

>>4627577

Why won't she just learn to not post? D:<

>>4627577

I saw that she recently was posting in lavieclassique.

>>4627577
What is this whole thing with Frances? Sorry if I'm too new to know about it all, but I've seen the Frances threads and figrured it was a bad troll copypasta based off some older troll or fail post.

>>4627690

I haven't seen her post here in quite a while now.

>>4627690

She, or whoever has taken up her identity since, has been around way too long. The shortest story I can give you--or, better, the biggest reason lolitas have a problem with her--is she came to a few livejournal communities and was a constant advertisement and salesperson of 1) Mary Kay and 2) Stockings.

Eventually, she went off on some sort of racial epithet rant on a few members, and someone got in contact with her work and as far as we know she lost her job with Mary Kay. Granted, some felt this was over the line, but personally, she came as a representative of Mary Kay and would mention Mary Kay products fairly often. If she were not to mix her work as a salesperson and share her...negative opinions...of certain members all at the same place, I don't think there would have been as large of a problem.

There are more stories about her constantly calling lolitas underage babies, etc., but that rant that had her fired from her work was probably the most memorable.

>>4627823
Actually, the job she was let go from was similar to a Walgreens, apparently. Not Mary Kay. Mary Kay supposedly sent her to "sensitivity training".

As for the racial epithets, I can give more detail on that. She attacked Amanikitty publicly, saying things like she ought to be lynched, etc., and attacked a local girl in the Missouri community about being Muslim. That incident in particular is where things get nasty and is why the MO comm is on lock down.

She threatened to drive to the girl's home to do physical harm to her because she a) refused Frances/Jennifer's friends requests and b) was a "bad" Muslim and an insult to women (something about how she didn't cover her hair, wears lolita but is a heathen, so on and so forth).

.. in short, bitch be crazier than a bag of bumble bees thrown in a river.

>>4627850

Ah! So it is even more complicated than I remembered, and I remembered it being pretty full-on crazy what-the-fuck. Thank you, Anon, for clarifying on the details. I only remembered so much, and this drink is not helping matters.

>>4627823
>>4627850

Wow, like WOW. D: