it's a very subtle kind of racism.

That art is so much better than the art banner on EGL right now. Seriously those eyes look fucking retarded >:(

I think the lolita community is racist against black girls, but less for the stupid reason in that secret and more for, you know, all of the people who say/think "black/arab/whatever girls just look ugly in lolita, nothing to be done lol :3"

>>4415398
Agreed! I think those drawings are so adorable, a lot better than what's on the current banner. Were they actually submitted and rejected?

It's because they take 4chan and trolls like sniper seriously
honestly, stop doing this, most lolitas don't have a problem with black people. it's not the 18th century.

>>4415403

But those people are right, it's European fashion after all.

They're from a lolita dress-up on DA

http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=&section=&q=lolita+dress+up#/d1t31rz

>>4415417
Who is Sniper?

There used to be a rule that the banner art on egl had to have certain features (blonde hair) because it was a "mascot", although that's been changed. Doesn't stop the banner art from still being all obviously white girls, though.

>>4415457
dey be deescreeminaytin' an' sheet. Gnomesayin?

That secret was from when Egl had a 'mascot'. It was just meant to be a cutesy little character that could be consistent in the community, nothing more. It was a lapse in judgment in making her have those traits, but not intentionally racist.

>>4415457
A well-drawn image of a black/hispanic/asian girl would have just as much of a chance as anything else, but I haven't seen any submitted.

Don't blacks have their own specific community on LJ for lolita stuff though?

It freaked me out a little that my SO told me that I'd get more shit of my skincolor than my insane disregard for "da rules".
I hadn't really considered it would be a big issue to others, but my SO knows a good bit about the lolita community so I didn't just brush it off.

Or maybe they were just saying that it's a non-issue and that I needn't worry about lolidrama coming after me...

Not this shit again....

Does anyone have caps of how the marchofducks thread on egl went down last night? I need me some lulz.

>>4415493
K

>>4415493

oh god, the one on the right is soooo ugly.

Black girls just have a tendency sometimes to want to have arguments.

>>4415526

I see what you did there

>>4415564
i've just noticed an argumentative streak in a lot of black girls, to tell you the truth they scare me.

>>4415638

>Not sure if srs.
Women in general are very argumentative. Not all, but a majority are so bitchy, mainly towards other women. So if you're a woman you might be seeing the women vs women problem rearing its ugly head.

wait, what's the lolita community on LJ that OPs pic is referring to?

>>4415480
I do believe that they do.

It's pretty stupid to cry about people "excluding" them, and in the same breath to make a community excluding everyone else.

It's just sheer coincidence.
A lot of the time, "black loli's" are 100% bitches and/or doing it completely wrong. But hey, that happens in the "white loli" community, too, as we all fuckin' know.
Like is said, it's just coincidence.

>>4415710
>A lot of the time, "black loli's" are 100% bitches and/or doing it completely wrong.

How so?

>Entire style developed specifically around women that have light, fair complexions.

>Act surprised and offended when people are less complimentary towards the black 250-pounder girl crammed into the Lolita costume.

>Claim RACISM.

>>4415747
>Tell a black person anything that isn't a highly praising compliment.
>Racism!
>Compliment a black person genuinely.
>Racism!
>Ignore black people.
>Racism!
You can't win.

Do you guys know what happens when I, a white guy, goes out in public dressed like this?

I get laughed at, if not beaten up.

And now when overweight black chicks attempt to shoe-horn their bodies into a style that was distinctly derived from fair-skinned, petitely-framed European women of the 19th century, and people laugh at them, THAT is suddenly racism.

>>4415747
There are plenty of attractive black women who are into lolita and who look fantastic in it. I can think of three examples off the top of my head: 113e, misadesu, and trancegemini. It's valid to say that there are some black girls who look bad in lolita, just as it's valid to say that there are some white girls who look bad in lolita. What's racist is saying that every single person of a certain race looks bad in lolita/is argumentative/weighs 250 pounds.

>>4415493

Holy mother of the holy father, I'm going to have nightmares over this bitch.

>>4415758

See, now this is a stupid skinhead piece of shit.

>>4415797
It's kind of to be expected that the style would favor pale skinned looking girls though. I mean, it's an exagerrated take on historical European fashion.

>>4415811
Please, please explain to me how the style favors pale-skinned girls? I'm obviously biased because I'm darker, but I don't get how a style favors pale girls. Yes, certain colors look better on pale complexions, but I legitimately cannot understand how people think a style of clothing looks better on people of a certain skin tone.

>>4415824
It doesn't, anon is just a racist and or trolling

>>4415824
I think it's the fact a lot of the intent is to look like a porcelain doll personally.

>>4415824
...Because it's imitating an European fashion.

Dark girls can and do look good in it, but how can you not see the "favor" in it? People often like it BECAUSE it imitates the European fashion. We're used to seeing said fashion on pale white girls.
Taadahh.

>>4415838
I had about 20 porcelain dolls as a child. All were dark-skinned.

>>4415836
That makes no sense to me. If anything, I'd say the style "favors" black girls because a lot of white girls look like shit in the pastel shades that dominate the style.

>>4415797
Skin color is an aesthetic.

Costumes are an aesthetic.

Sometimes aesthetics clash.
Guess what: You're going to be fucking hard-pressed to find black chicks that look good in lolita shit, because when the style came into existence, it was specifically designed for fair-skinned women.

It's the same reason I look like an idiotic poser douche-nozzle for trying to look "asian" by wearing a eastern sun-hat in public.

I know it hurts to have your fragile illusion of total equality in all aspects of life put to the test, but costuming and cosplay has an artistic nature to how the medium is created and displayed.
Artistic medium deals with aesthetics.
Color is an aesthetic.
People's skin has color.
And people's skin is a product of race.

Whether you like it or not, the color of you skin, and by proxy your race, affect how good you look in certain clothing.
It's the same way some women don't wear dresses that are too light in color if they have tan skin.

If you can find a black chick that doesn't look retarded in this get-up, I'd welcome their presence.
However, in general and for the vast majority of cases, this whole "black lolita" community is based on an idea that doesn't work and looks retarded, just as much as if there were a group of "white sun-hat wearers" or "Asian African Tribesmen", thusly why we laugh at them and their drama.

>>4415841
>>4415836
>Porcelain

>>4415807
What's funny is that you probably don't even realize that you just proved him right.

>>4415841
I think you got your quotes turned around, because...I said nothing about dolls.

But I never said how GOOD a girl looks in it either. It "favors", because that's who was wearing it first. It's a matter of what we're USED to seeing. Darker girls are outside the norm. It's not a BAD thing by any means, but it is outside of it.

I'm curious. To any of the White girls in this thread, do Black girls ever make you feel uncomfortable and try and play the race card around you?

I'm a guy, so there's a lot more overt racial tension when you're male. I'm just wondering whether there's any racial tension amongst girls?

Sure you can draw an animu girl with darker skin... but how do you make one look hispanic or asian?

>>4415871
I've gotten that vibe from black girls but I usually disarm them by being pretty laid back and not rising to their bait. Sometimes I'm intimidated by the really like, aggressive ones but I just play it cool and I've never pissed one off enough to get clawed at.

On the other hand, I love huge beautiful nubian afros and I know how much of a sore point "good hair bad hair" is with black girls, so I never ever complement, mention, or say anything about their hair despite how much I love it and want to touch it.

>>4415871
Not really.

>Watching Game of Thrones last night
>Realize it is basically an all-white cast in a High Middle Ages European setting

>>4415871
I don't think there is as much.
I've noticed that in general, men seem to be more racist, or at least more overtly racists, than women.
I'm pretty sure Asian girls are really racist though.

>>4415890
Like Sailor Pluto, maybe?

..but yeah she does just look like all the others, but with slightly darker skin.

>>4415896
>I've gotten that vibe from black girls

Explain.

>Sometimes I'm intimidated by the really like, aggressive ones

How aggressive?

>>4415902
>I'm pretty sure Asian girls are really racist though.

Why do you think that?

Do none of you realize that black porcelain dolls exist

>>4415905
I don't know if they're racist but potentially more ignorant might be the best way to say it? When me and friends went to Japan last our black friend constantly got asked how she got her skin so dark. The comments got more prevalent once we got out of the metropolitan areas.

Best part this was in early 2010.

>>4415905
Wait, Pluto is supposed to be Hispanic? Lol, she doesn't look it at all. I've only seen like the first season of Sailor Moon.

>>4415909
Bc Asians in general are super racists and Asian girls are generally very catty and gossipy.

>>4415890
>>4415890
Michiko e Hatchin is full of characters that are Hispanic. And totally worth checking out :)

>>4415856

BAHAHAHA

>>4415924
I think she's supposed to be half hispanic.

>>4415924
>>4415930

No, no shes not, not in the slightest. Just because shes slightly tanned, does not make her HISPANIC of all things.

>black is natural on african americans

cosmotologyfag here.
only asians and native americans have black hair.
Everything else is just dark brown

>>4415871
Black girls will play the race card around you if you mention race.

>>4415927
And also hated by the Japanese and shafted into obscurity precisely because the characters are all brown girls...

>>4415934
I'm pretty sure Naoko said she was.

>>4415926
>Asian girls are generally very catty and gossipy

Can you expand upon this?

I've heard it mentioned before, but personally as a guy I've never noticed it.

Well since OP's image is all about the banner...
Somebody draw a good enough banner with black/hispanic/asian/whateveryouwant girls in it. Problem solved. :|

>>4415939
Don't know about that, I know full blooded Basques from Spain with jet black hair and pale skin.

But this all just subjective. People who think Lolita is a costume can think that and can wear it as costume if they want. I am black I would like to participate in a Regency Era acting group but I won't because I will mostly be typecast as a slave.

But lolita for me is not a costume for me, I don't wear it as a costume, I wear it as everyday clothing so I am not trying to portray a character or fictional person. I live in the 21st century where you can wear whatever the fuck you want.

>>4415417
This

For anything that's race/cosplay in general.

But this is the internet.

Not all black women are angry. Everyone has a different personality no matter what race.

>>4415964
........how do you explain kuro fetish then?

Oddly enough a black girl gave me shit once because I said I wanted to marry someone from my own race (white) when asked if I had a preference.

>>4415920
I don't think that's so much 'racism'.

>implying other people of one skin color can possibly wear something inspired by 18th-19th century clothing

>>4416037

Heh, he looks so ridiculous in it though. It's 18th century European clothing remember, it naturally looks out of place on a race that looks so different.

>>4416001
Dude, I'm black and I don't even want to marry from my race.

I love me some white chocolate.

Why are there so many freakin' race threads lately? Geez.

>>4416001
I've had this, but from black guys, not black girls. When pressed for a preference I said I preferred my own race and they called me a racist.

>>4416001

as well she should have.

But it depends on how deep it runs. If you meet a delightful young man from India who was raised in Britain who decides to say hi.
Will you:
a. dismiss him without a thought because he isn't white
b. think to yourself "he not what I had in mind, but I'll try it"
c.think "nevermind he's not white, he seems awesome"

>>4416047 Heh, he looks so ridiculous in it though.

Simpleton.

It's not out of place at all. Can't you see things for the era they belonged to rather than what you are used to seeing?

>>4416001
I don't want to marry in my race either and the black side of my family hates it
White chocolate all the way

>>4415999
It has a small cult following, but the DVD sales in Japan for it totally bombed. Little brown girls don't have mainstream appeal in Japan.

>>4416047
>implying that it was race, not class, that determined the clothing someone in 18th century Europe wore

Hahahaha, such adorable fail.

>>4416068
Why? Some people prefer to be in a relationship with somebody from a certain race because that is what they find attractive. I'm mulatto, raised in white areas; therefore, I find white males attractive and black men unattractive. Does that make me racist because I have a different beauty preference? No, it does not.

>>4416068
Not that anon you're responding to but if he had a British accent I would love him forever. I would even love a black guy forever if he had a British accent and the only black person I've ever seen that I've personally found semi-attractive is Obama, lol.

>>4416093

>Obama

Lmao this made this whole copypasta feeling subject thread worth it.

>>4416068
> dismiss him without a thought because he isn't white

I want my children to come from a fully white/euro ancestral background. It's important to me as I value my heritage a lot. So no, I wouldn't date him.

>>4416087

18th century Europe's non-European population was absolutely tiny though. I mean, utterly miniscule.

>>4416114
Dude here. I have the same attitude more or less, although it's general the father that determines the cultural upbringing of the children, and in the case of ethnic minorities in white nations, they almost invariably raise them as whatever minority group they belong to.

>>4416093
>obama attractive

>>4415905
I always saw her as middle eastern. def not white,a t least.

>>4416068
>as well she should have.

are non-white minorities beholden to this same inquisitorial style of social engineering?

>>4415638
Charlotte/Cross, is that you? The stupid comments and the lack of capitalization makes me think it is.

>>4415988
You don't notice because they won't say it to your face, in English.

I go to an all-women college, and holy shit, Asian girls. Just because you aren't speaking English doesn't mean no one understands when you're insulting them. The ones who have jobs and aren't supported by daddy's money are all right though.

>>4416114
Uh....european and whites don't have a heritage. You can't just lump europeans together, heritages are VERY different country to country.

>>4416114 I want my children to come from a fully white/euro ancestral background. It's important to me as I value my heritage a lot. So no, I wouldn't date him.

So many things wrong here.
Instead of going for the best mate regardless of race you're going to instead ignore that and make your gene pool repetitive.
Therefore opening up your children to more diseases. Yeah, sounds like you will love them a lot.

>>4416175
>Uh....european and whites don't have a heritage.

Well it varies more by region than nation (Estonians have more in common with Finns than their Baltic neighbors for example), but we do have broad things that link us together - A small but good illustration of this would be medieval chivalric orders, which were common to virtually all European states at that time. Monastic orders are another good illustration of this, they were pan-European institutions in many regards.

Not the person you're replying to btw.

>>4416149
Well now my internet research indicates she's part Gypsy. But still no proof, just "lol Naoko said it somewhere"
Well now I'm curious why I thought she was Hispanic all these years. Stupid early internet research.

>>4416200
>Instead of going for the best mate regardless of race you're going to instead ignore that and make your gene pool repetitive.

Genomes don't work that way.

>Therefore opening up your children to more diseases.

http://dataarchives.ss.ucla.edu/da_catalog/da_catalog_titleRecord.php?studynumber=M806V1

This is the National Longditudinal Study of Health in the United States. It shows mixed race children suffer from health complications more often than their homogeneous counterparts.

>>4416200
learn2genetics

>>4416175

If european don't have some manner of common heritage, then neither do Northeast Asians, Indians, Sub-Saharan Africans and Arabs.

>>4416114
Haha omg, you're trolling, right? You obviously don't give a fuck about your heritage, you're just a racist ass trying to justify it to yourself.

>>4416215
I always just want she was like dark from sitting by the time gate. Like she got a mad tan because the sun was always hitting her.

>>4416220
Why are you on /cgl/? Do you do cosplay or lolita?

>>4416241
>Every other race: Perfectly fine to intermarry to preserve your heritage.
>Whites: Intermarriage is evil. You should efface yourselves and feel good about it.

>>4416251
I'm here to counter anti-white lies. Statements like 'Europeans have no heritage' and 'you're a nazi if you want to marry another white person above a non-white person' are bullshit and can't be allowed to go unparried.

>>4416220
>>4416229

fraid not my friend/s

The more you vary where you pull from the better the outcome and the more the dominate stronger genes cancel out bad ones.

Even plants do this.

There could be various social reasons a mixed raced child could have complications.

>>4416252
This seems to be the case most of the time.

Though I personally have no issue mixing my genes with other ethnicities.

>>4416258
What are your sources for that sort of statement?

>>4416258
>the dominate stronger genes cancel out bad ones

Uh, you're aware dwarfism and long-sightedness are also accounted for by dominant genes right? Just by virtue of a gene being dominant, doesn't make it good.

>Even plants do this.

Ah, this dusty old "hybrid vigor" canard. The problem with this idea is it only works for two genetically depressed populations that have been inbred for too long, for example, ornamental plants that have been artificialy selected for a certain type of petal without regard to other vital traits that affect health, growth and reproduction. The resulting "vigor" of the progeny of the cross(hybrid) is really just a return to some standard of functional genetic fitness.

The hybrid most likely inherits at least one working copy of genes that code for functional proteins, whereas in the genetically depressed parent genome, both copies may have produced "broken" non-functional or semi-functional products. Proponents of stupid multicult ideas should at least try to understand the science behind their claims before spouting off. Then again, truth really isn't their goal, is it?

Plenty of people eat this tripe right up because it sounds "sciency" and fits the anti-white misinformation that passes for common wisdom these days. Whether or not there is any evidence to back up these wild assertions is incidental, so mission accomplished for the leftists.

Look, he's/she's arrived. run.
Reasoning does not work with them.

>>4416256
But why do this on a cosplay and lolita board? You're not going to change peoples minds, you're just wasting your time. And it's also not related to the board.

>>4416266
Well I'm not OP of this thread, so I don't care.

But I'm not going to let the sociology crowd get away with engaging in pseudoscience and pseudohistory like they always do.

>>4416264
Hey, I'm a far leftist and I resent that.

>>4416264
Oh it's you again.

I'll repeat myself from the other thread.
How does it feel to know nothing you say makes a difference and will not be going your way ever again?
I believe you are the new minority.

Liberals and respectable conservatives agree there is this RACE problem. They say this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-Mexicans were brought into Mexico and ONLY into Mexico?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the Mexican problem?

And how long would it take any Mexican to notice this and what kind of psycho Mexican wouldn’t object to it?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

:| can we just get a all colours of the rainbow mascot and not feel the need to segregate and cause more dramu?

>>4416272
Yeah but why waste your skills here? There are better boards out there for this.

>>4415997
In France it was possible to get away with being upper class and black. Rare, but possible.

In England, though, and America, where slavery was around until the 1830s and 1860s respectively, there was obviously more racism.

historyfag here.

Also, I agree with the secret- Blonde hair isn't the only hair colour anyway. What's wrong with having black girls in our banner?

(also, I've never encountered any black girls who tried to racebait me, and only one black man.)

>>4416277
>Argumentum ad populum

Nothing worth addressing here.

I doubt it's intentional, it might just be one of those subconscious things.

it's not the lolita community specifically, it's in all of American culture.

>>4416279

ask any anthropologist, race doesn't exist.

>>4416295
The fact that it wasn't intentional almost makes it worse, because then it's institutionalized.

>>4416300
Anthropology has been polluted by Boasian pseudoscience, so I'd rather not.

See the Lieberman Study however, most physical anthropologists agree race exists and about 85% of biologists do too.

Here's Ernst Mayr, one the most eminent living evolutionary biologists on the matter:

>There are words in our language that seem to lead inevitably to controversy. This is surely true for the words "equality" and "race." And yet among well informed people, there is little disagreement as to what these words should mean, in part because various advances in biological science have produced a better understanding of the human condition.

>Let me begin with race. There is a widespread feeling that the word "race" indicates something undesirable and that it should be left out of all discussions. This leads to such statements as "there are no human races."

>Those who subscribe to this opinion are obviously ignorant of modern biology. Races are not something specifically human; races occur in a large percentage of species of animals. You can read in every textbook on evolution that geographic races of animals, when isolated from other races of their species, may in due time become new species. The terms 11 subspecies" and "geographic race" are used interchangeably in this taxonomic literature.

http://www.highbeam.com/library/doc0.asp?docid=1G1:83679914&refid=ink_key

>>4416280
>>4416280
>>4416280
>>4416280
this

>>4416280
That's just the thing though, even if you did that they'd maintain their own communities.

They are laughing at you, they demand you cater to them in every respect and then attack you whenever you engage in the slightest instance of racial assertion, which they do all the time anyway.

>>4416280
I wish we could but as long as people make "race" an issue it will always be an issue. Look at how hard people are fighting to prove which one of them is right. It's asinine and doesn't really matter, but people place such a huge value on "race" it isn't funny. And this applies to all groups of people not just one.

I'm just sick of watching what I say around minorities for fear of offending them because it seems everyone that isn't white is pulling the U SO RACIST card nowadays.
Feelsbadman.

>>4416265
You're the one not being reasonable when they're writing out paragraphs and paragraphs of cited research and all you're going is insulting them.

>>4416305
>>4416315
It doesn't really exist as a superior/inferior scale to base things off of, but it does exist. It's why there are diseases that are black only and why there are varying protocols as far as cancer/heart disease screening.

Though as far as the last bit, that's probably a result of widespread practices on the part of various ethnic groups leading to increased/decreased risk.

>>4416057
This. WTF we just had pretty much this thread yesterday! Why /cgl/? Why?! /cgl/ related, yes. But you know this will derail to a troll thread/ started as a troll thread.

>>4416320
As a minority, I promise not to unless you start spouting angry, racist shit that's specifically directed at me.

>>4416328
>It doesn't really exist as a superior/inferior scale to base things off of, but it does exist. It's why there are diseases that are black only and why there are varying protocols as far as cancer/heart disease screening.

That's why the human genome project is so important. The out of Africa theory, which states that life started in Africa then branched out It's already noted that among African women there are a higher number of genetic mutations than any other group of people, they don't know why this is but the hypothesis has to deal with where life started.

But there are still many things that can cause problems within people and environment plays just as big of an impact as your genetic make up does.

>>4416333
Thank you.
It's like the other people in this thread said. I compliment someone's hair or outfit and I get utter rage. And if I say nothing, I get utter rage. And if I look for one second too long I get called a racist bitch. So confusing.

Perhaps I live near supersensitive minorities. Idek.

White women who date black men are kind of trashy, that's all I'm going to say.

>>4415909
Hi, sorry
>>4415896
here. I wasn't not responding, left the house for a while.

When I say vibe, I guess I mean that they are ready and or looking for a fight or a reason to let me know I'm just an dumb white bitch. I already know that and I am pretty aware of my privileges so the guilt trip doesn't really go very far with me, and while I admire those stacked nubian princes, I'm not interested in taking one for myself.

>>4415909
I would describe "aggressive" as the black girls who feel the need to over compensate and behave as "ghetto bougie" as they can as a way of asserting that they fit stereotypes so "don't fuck with me bitch or I'll turn your life into a rap song." I wouldn't say that I'm afraid that they'll shoot me or beat me up or anything, because they if that's what they are going to do, I'm not going to be able to stop them, so much that I am just uncomfortable and embarrassed that they simplify their outward personality to fit this image that they think will protect them. I know I'm just a soft white girl, so I don't know why black girls feel like they need to impress me that they are supa gangsta. Girl I was born from a box of saltines, and a bag of cotton balls is more gangsta than I am. Let's skip the formalities and discuss your fabulous nails.

>>4416272
I'm still wondering why here though. You do know the majority of people here are high schoolers who either enjoy dressing up as anime characters or as toddlers, right? I'm sure you feel very smart as you reaffirm your worldviews and fight "liberal pseudoscience" but you do know that arguing here is about as educational and intellectually stimulating as talking about the boogeyman with a five year old.. right? If you're really interested in educating people, why don't you either go to a place where this is acceptable and people might listen to you, or else a place that is actually capable of of carrying on a decent debate with you? But hey, keep on keeping on if it's what makes you feel like a master debater.

>>4416466
>I am pretty aware of my privileges

Wow, you sound pathetic.

Self-hating loser.

Go race mix with blacks.

>>4416515
Not really. I just am very self aware, and I've had a lot of good fortune in my life and I know that part of it is that I'm white and grew up in a suburban white neighborhood. If I had been born black in a black neighborhood I'd probably have a bit of an attitude too.

>>4416538
Bullshit, I've met Russians that grew up in the shit of the 1990s, they're nothing like urban blacks.

Race mixing whore.

lol I'm 100000% SURE OP's pic was done by an african american. They always call racism for everything, at all times.
"YOU DIDNT COME TO ASK ME FIRST ABOUT X THING? YOU A RACIST!"

hahaha PFFF

Either lolita has a very vocal racist following on /cgl/ and egl, or the fashion itself breeds racism.

Racism towards people who are not fair skinned because white people with entitlement issues think that tanned/dark people should not be allowed into their fashion. (In fact, on a purely aesthetic level, tanned people can wear many more colours than a porcelain-skinned person)

That's the only explanation I can think of. I think its sad. There is so much variety in beauty and looks between all the different races and dark skinned people are so underrepresented in the fashion.

Blacks often complain of racism.

Often for good reason.

But more often because it's an easy way to stir things up.

>>4416552
Haha yup I love dat black dick, you got me. Gonna have me a passel of mocha babies and dilute my pure white German blood. Hope you're mad!

>>4416576
and being a white person you would totally know whether they had good cause or not. you must understand them so well...

>>4416586
Being black automatically means you know more about racism!

>>4416582
>Hope you're mad!

Why would I be mad?

I'm not you. It's your funeral. Literally in some cases.

It's weird you think this is something to brag about in any event, raising children that eventually grow to hate their mother's race? gg.

>>4416590
Wow, I don't even...

>>4416554
> (In fact, on a purely aesthetic level, tanned people can wear many more colours than a porcelain-skinned person)

Why do non-whites always do this? They always attack whites for suggesting whites are better at something, or can wear something better or something because they call it 'privilege', but then they go and do the same thing themselves.

>mfw every other person in this thread is either marchofducks or is just as thick as her

>>4416597

I've actually noticed EVERYBODY does this. women will bash men and then turn around and say women are better at something, fat girls will say skinny girls aren't real women and then they get pissed when skinny girls tell them anything that could be misconstrued as bullying...everyone does it.

I'm white, btw.

>>4416597
It's for the same reason that women put down men, ugly people put down pretty people, poor people put down rich people, and fat people put down thin people and everyone's okay with it. Everyone understands that latter group is in some way in power or superior to them. The former groups have boatloads of privilege and generally don't give a rats ass if people below them make fun of them. Personally I don't give half a shit if black people want to make fun of me or say they dress better than me because I still have a huuuge social advantage. I don't need immunity from being "made fun of" too. It doesn't even matter.
Not that this justifies it, but as far as I can see that's why it is the way it is and why nobody is really trying to change it.

>>4416608
Who is marchofducks?

>>4416597
Society perpetuates this. Look at any beauty magazine. Look at the ads. Pick out how often you'll see a woman of color vs. a white woman. You'll find that white women have most of the beauty ads. This is a form of social engineering in the minds of people. White women are beautiful because they have these qualities that make them beautiful such as clear white skin, light colored eyes, beautiful natural hair, etc. This is the "norm". When you step outside of the norm, people's biases come into play.

>>4416616
>privilege

Your justification is that anything vaguely hierarchical is based on privilege. This is a very big assertion, and it requires. 'boatloads' of proof as a result. Also, lol at fat 'rights' - That's the fucking bottom of the barrel as far as identity politics goes.

Why are so many of you gals self-loathing white sociology types anyway? Are there any White women left who don't kow-tow to the first angry minority they meet?

WE HAD THIS FUCKING THREAD YESTERDAY

>>4416633
>Look at any beauty magazine

Depends on the country. In East Asia white models are indeed prevelant for example but East Asian models outnumber them quite considerably.

You can't really expect European countries to cater to your every wish.

>This is the norm

It's the norm in America to some degree, because the USA was founded by White Europeans and the historical founding population is White European.

Deal. With. It.

>>4416635
Perhaps I'm mistaken in using too loaded of a term? Essentially, what I'm trying to say is when one group has power in society for whatever reason, it's considered OK for the groups below them to make fun of the group above. There are probably valid social cohesion reasons for this.

>>4416624
http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/2385/marchofduck1.png
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5204/marchofduck2.png

All the racist white people in this thread, what you will ever want to say has already been said by your non-anonymous spokesperson. You can all go home now and finish doing whatever it is you like to do from the list of stuff white people likes.

>>4416645
It's too broad a definition. I don't have a problem with humour, I have a problem with non-whites wanting it all their own way wherever on earth they are.

>>4416643
You are correct, I am basing this off of US norms. Given that this country promotes equality, it actually is no where even close to being equal. Rich keep getting richer, women face glass ceilings everyday, and minorities face racism both overtly and covertly at much higher and much more dangerous rates than whites.

>>4416675
Equality is a social construct, it doesn't mean anything at all. It's just a rhetorician's tool.

>Rich keep getting richer

Unfortunately. I agree with this, it's the largely white middle class that suffer the most though. It is the class being most squeezed by entitlements.

>women face glass ceilings everyday

Have you read Walter Block's account of the supposed gender pay gap? What do you make of the arguments therein? I'm not a libertarian, but it seems to make sense.

>minorities face racism both overly and covertly at much higher and much more dangerous rates than whites

What do you mean by 'much more dangerous'? And could you explain what metric you are using to quantify covert racism?

Also, could you provide statistics?

I was under the impressions that blacks commit much more hate crimes, in per capita terms, than whites do.

>>4416675
>Rich keep getting richer, women face glass ceilings everyday, and minorities face racism both overtly and covertly at much higher and much more dangerous rates than whites.
>Herp durr, it exists because I say it exists, hurp durr. Racism = EVERYWHERE.

>>4416674
Why do you think this is? Do all non-whites just have a "want it their own way" gene that white people lack, or do you blame media brainwashing?

>>4416702
The past 60 years has seen the development of identity politics. I think this is a form of Cultural Marxism myself, if you read Frankfurt School philosophers they discuss how they were dejected by how the white working class did not function as the revolutionary proleteriat in Western Europe in the way they thought it would. They posited the creation of 'victim groups' based on identity politics that would fulfill the same role as the revolutionary working class was supposed to. This has been achieved through soft-leftism embedding itself in the media, yes.

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