I wouldn't bother. A lot of us have tried and nothing seems to get past that thick delusional skull of hers.

lose weight stop taking picture etc.

Be as friendly as possible I guess. Usually the people attempting to "help" are a bit rude in their comments, resulting in her ignoring them.

>>4387965
I still want to try though.

Face expressions. She needs to work on her face expressions. Poses as well. Her photos would improve by a LOT if she just did some better fucking poses and expressions.

>>4387980
I said this in the friendliest way I could think of and she replied with, "Well photographers are expensive so I do this all on my own."

Tell her that she doesn't have to be half naked to show off her body, and that there are plenty of ways to look sexy without fat rolls hanging out of purple stockings.

>>4387983
... fuck that. No they aren't. Most amateur photographers will shoot for free if they haven't had paid jobs before. It's not hard to find someone trying to build their potfolio. Nor is it hard to make friends with someone who has a camera and a halfway decent eye these days.

Send her some links with poses and clothes that she might look good in ?

>>4387989
>Assuming anyone would want to photograph her gross ass
>Assuming ANYONE would want pictures of her in her portfolio

>>4387989
The only thing that gets me is that she expects to be a model and expects to find jobs with
a) her current body and
b) The same fucking pose every time because she 'needs' the photographer to tell her what to do all the time.

Gonna just post some PT crap that I've laughed at in the past.

>>4387983
>MFW It took me all of 1 hour to find a photographer willing to do a free steampunk shoot with me. I'm so happy I'm pretty.

>>4387993
If someone didn't know her reputation, probably. There are photos of her where she looked just fine, because she wasn't pulling stupid duck lips, was dressed in a manner that flattered her body and didn't involve gravure bullshit.

Plus, I'm talking portrait photographers who are looking to shoot normal people, not fashion/commercial photographers looking for supermodels.

>I do 100 ab crunches
>NO SRSLY GUISE, I DO.

>>4387990
I could see this as a possibility.

>>4387983
Horse shit. Why not ask a friend?

>>4388014
Or look up photography and posing tutorials online? Hell, even watching ANTM has helped me improve my posing a bit.

>>4388014
>>implying that PT has real friends.

I find it very amazing that she always says she needs a photographer. I have offered more than once and she chooses to ignore me. (I even sent her some links to previous photos) =\

>>4388038
This proves it yet again. She just wants a pity party.

>>4387983
Well fuck, take a picture and IF THE POSE AND FACIAL EXPRESSION ARE SHITTY FUCKING RETAKE IT.
Seriously? It's not fucking hard to try out different poses.

>>4388026
Ha, true.

Like everyone else is saying, she won't listen to any advice on her pictures. That's probably because her chubby chaser watchers are cheering her on.

Try convincing her that she isn't Asian, for starters.

>>4388038
u a perv?

>>4388414
Nope, I'm a 20 y/o female.

NO ADVISE DON'T FUCKING DO IT SHE DOESN'T CARE GEEZ

>>4388688
Lol, maybe that's why.
She wants a creeper photog.

>>4388688

>implying 20 year old girls can't be pervs

I trolled her by correcting her on the meaning of "moe," when she used it to describe a picture where she clearly looked angry.
She just said no one is perfect and she's working on it.
I have no idea how anyone can try and look cute and get it SO WRONG.

>>4388699
Newfag alert.

>>4388009
I honestly feel sorry for her sometimes. It's stuff like this that makes it obvious that she just puts on an act. She obviously has low self esteem.

I also kind of wonder if she realizes that if she loses ANY weight, she'll feel a lot better about herself. Even just 5 lbs could make her feel pretty. It's terrible that she doesn't have the drive to do it.

>>4388697
> Implying I didn't clearly say "nope"

Here's what I would honestly say if I had PT's ear for awhile.

"Look, I don't hate you, but I DO lurk /cgl/, and I think the number one thing you could do to salvage your sanity is to stop posting anything online. Seriously, I don't see what you're gaining by doing it, and ridicule is never good for anyone's self-esteem. You can still do the things you love, watching anime, cosplaying, exploring japanese fashion and your sexuality, whatever... Just stop posting it online. It's gotten to the point that no matter what you do, it will still cause people to ridicule you. It doesn't matter what the criticism is... If you follow it, someone will mock you anyway, because there's a chunk of the internet that's obsessed with hating you. If you don't want to wind up as crazy as Britney, you need to stop."

Also

"Since you lost weight, you have a cute body, but horrible color sense. Go look up "Fashion Help for Recovering Goths" and find out what colors will look best on you. Stop dyeing your hair those fugly colors like flat black... A multitoned dark brown always looks better. A nice auburn shade would be beautiful on you. Oh, and your blue eyes are beautiful, show them off! And you wear too much dark eyeliner. It makes your eyes look tiny."

That's probably the best I could do. In my opinion, since she lost the weight, she's got a butterface/hair thing going, but her body's okay. If she dressed well and stopped doing her hair and makeup to look more asian, she'd be cute.

>>4388712

it's not like she's not 'trying', or at least what her mind thinks of as 'trying'; to her, eating only half a cheeseburger and then doing crunches at night is the hardest she can work towards losing weight. maybe its a good thing that she hasn't gone down the eating disorder path, but in the end, she's as much in denial about how she looks as to how she's trying to achieve a smaller figure

I really don't understand why she doesnt just stop posting online.

What on earth does she get out of it?
Is it all for the chubby chaser compliments? Her self-esteem must really be down.

>>4388712
She's going to have a heart attack and die.

>>4389262
I have to wonder this myself. I think she probably really does want to quit but she can't. It's an addiction, a high. It's like her way of validating she exists. Her way of proving she's better by 'defeating the trolls.' I'm kind of guessing she has few friends and her family ignores her. It's mostly negative attention but is it attention, which is something she is starved of. So she'll keep on. Either she'll wear herself out and die off or she'll eventually throw a big "fuck you" and do something she'll regret. She has a few choices, but in the end with how much she's put herself out there on the internet and the fact that she has a lasting mark on various websites where she cannot delete content permanently, she's essentially fucked up her outside life. Even if she leaves the internet completely, it's still there. Her real name will bring up certain things. Unpleasant things she cannot undo.

She has to crash and burn before she'll even admit that she has a problem and get help. By that time, I think it'll be too late.

>>4390024
FUCKING.THIS.

>>4390024
That's probably why she wants to move to Japan.

>>4387986
And a bra from target.

PT again? It's just getting pathetic now cgl.

This is largely the problem though she won't listen to you guys because your all so adamant on giving her advice. If you were just to all stop and ignore her honestly thats about 90% of her audience gone.

What you see as a solution to the problem is also a causing a bigger problem to the original problem.

>>4390055
I would actually love to test this out. If everyone from /cgl/ would just ignore her for month, should would prob post a cocky journal about how she beat the "trolls" but I feel sure she would slowly just stop posting pictures after that.

>leave /cgl/ for a couple of months
>first thread back
>PT dramu
i love you seagulls

the frustrating thing is, when she acts natural she's actually kinda pretty (pic related), it's just when she tries too hard that she falls down. as shown by when her mother came on here and started defending her, she does have severe self esteem issues, and it does seem her way of validating her existence is by having random strangers compliment her half naked pictures on the internet. she admits herself that she doesn't have many irl friends; one of her old whiteknights is an online boyfriend, and when her ex released the infamour nudes i think it probably destroyed her inside. it's not like people haven't tried to help her; she just doesn't want the help. one of the things that her mother highlighted that sticks in my mind is the fact that when she was younger she did in fact receive councilling, so there are definitely underlying issues. as to why she acts the way she does.

tl;dr bitch is crazy, hence half naked all the time. kinda beyond help imo.

>>4390039
You must be new here.

>>4390055
>>4390066

I think this would be quite interesting to test but, I think we're leaving out on option she could take though. Mostly likely as 4390055 said, she'd post a cocky journal and just kind of drift off. This would be ideal for everybody involved.

Still, I walked the same path when I was younger, so I do know there is another reaction that could happen. It's honestly not something I'd wish to be witness to.

The other reaction is the complete opposite. Sort of like taking the means of getting a high from an addict, she could just completely freak the fuck out and use any means necessary to get it. With PT, taking away /cgl/'s attention at once could be pretty dangerous. She could turn to doing full nudes or worse to get that attention back. Then that would just cause a rinse and repeat effect.

If we do decide to just ignore her, maybe do so gradually? I really just don't want to see what could happen if it goes the worse route, especially with her not caring her nudes are out and her doing gravure photos.

>>4390028
More than likely. She's trying to run away. She's scared though because I think deep down she does realize at some level she won't be accepted in Japan. It's why she hasn't gotten there yet and spends money on cosplay instead of saving more for the trip.

>>4390147
"I thought the previous journal entry was too negative! So here's a better one. ^_^ Thank you for 174,000 views! Keep them coming, and keep the support up. I'm SO HAPPY that I'm not getting as many trolls lately. Thank you for that...it's hard enough when people bring up old photos of me that were from when I was heavier and not flattering. *sigh*;;;...Gives me more encouragement to workout harder and do my best! "

>>4390077
I agree with you.. but I still feel really bad that she got fucked by genetics. That chin and nose... I can't imagine having such huge noticeable unattractive features like that. I'm not saying I'm gorgeous, but I just don't have a feature on my face like that... and I legit feel bad that that's her face.

I think pt is annoying, delusional and weird as fuck. But honestly, in one of the first pictures we saw here on /cgl/ she actually looked pretty. The one with the white dress and red hair, where she said she hated the dress. Why would she hate it, I mean, it actually looked -good-. I wish I knew if she is aware of this, or just surpresses because she wants to look kawaii uguu~?

I see this girl a lot here and it seems the main problems /cgl/ seems to have with her is her weight and her denial/attitude towards herself/being asian.

As far as wanting to take 'sexy' pictures of herself there isn't actually anything wrong with that, it can be very empowerring for a woman if it makes her feel sexy. And you know, if she's got it in her to show that to the world then more power to her, especially when faced with some of the things you guys have done (R.I.P messages? Really guys?)

Having been a big girl myself and having worked with some plus sized models I would say she's not doing the best for her body or shape. If you want to give some constructive criticism and fair critique trying showing her some pictures of women with a similar figure to herself in poses that are genuinley flattering.

Concerning the matter of her rejecting your offers to take pictures or to give her 'help', perhaps she is so wary of trolls that listenning to anything that isn't her idea of 'good' just won't go through anymore.

If she won't accept your help and she won't be beaten down by your hate then maybe it's time to put down the shovel and leave her be?

>>4390291
Hmm. I didn't see this. Maybe I fail at reading feelings through internet postings, but it comes off as a little fake to me. Maybe she actually is happy. Maybe it's just how she wrote the one line about being happy the trolls are leaving her alone.

I'm wasn't saying it was 100% that she'd go the second route. I hope she doesn't but I've seen her do the whole "posting more revealing images when criticized heavily" thing. Her past actions made me fear she would go that route when completely ignored.

>>4390077
This. She can be a very pretty but she needs to just be herself.

>>4388024

dude just gawking at 40s pinup and 20s cheesecake has taught me a lot about posing. subtle details that can really enhance a photo, like finger posing and toes pointing. subtle details makes for a powerful impact as a whole.

>>4390077

yeah, she actually looks cute there. she really just needs to work to her strengths and stop posing like a Japanese softcore porn model.

Guys, I'm worried.

I think I might look like PT. :(

I'm actively working on losing weight, but you can't fix ugly without surgery.

>>4390663

the thing is, while she does have big features, she isn't doing her best to work with them. she's trying to work against it by doing what petite, skinny asian girls do. that's what really hurts her.

if she'd learn to be okay with and even proud of the fact that she has the body of an adult woman, creating that confidence and learning how to dress a body like that in a society that tells us that we're unattractive if we're not 30-28-30 would do her SO MUCH GOOD.

I had to do the opposite and accept that I am small and I don't exactly have a womanly body, but there are people out there who would kill for this, and I need to love it and take care of it because it's what I've got.

I realize it's easier in that direction, but I still get picked on for being small and thin, and sometimes I feel like I shouldn't show it off because I might make women with different body types feel bad. but that's their confidence problem, not mine. I digress though.

>>4390510
> Having been a big girl myself and having worked with some plus sized models I would say she's not doing the best for her body or shape. If you want to give some constructive criticism and fair critique trying showing her some pictures of women with a similar figure to herself in poses that are genuinley flattering.

That's the thing though. She genuinely doesn't believe that she's "plus sized", and vehemently insists that she isn't whenever someone says she is. Posting photos of well-posed, well-dressed models who are closer to her size will only get her saying "oh, but that's not me, I'm not a big girl" and then you'll be written off as just another troll.

Not denying that some people have been seriously shitty to her (the RIP messages etc) but it's easy to see what it is about her attitude that frustrates people so much.

>>4390663
I really don't think she's ugly. The way she dresses draws more attention away from her face. In that recent picture of her in jeans with the Hello Kitty shirt, she actually looked cute.