David Bowie.
That's what I think.

I think we had this thread a couple times already.

>>4034402
David Bowie is always a good thing to think about.

>>4034402
ifuckinglovedavidbowie.

I think /cgl/ serves that purpose. I know it specifically says egl, but there are so many other Japanese subculture/alternative fashions that also get posted here because /fa/ doesn't like it at all. Cosplayers are generally non-mainstream to begin with, so it just congregates here.

And who knows, maybe it'd give us more threads and this board wouldn't progress at such a snail pace.

>>4034404
Oh really? Sorry, I haven't been online in a bit, I must've missed them.

What I think would be a good idea is seperating cosplay and lolita into two seperate boards with lolita being part of an alternative fashion board.

I have always advocated for a board for alternative/j-fashion for the same reasons, or at least to have it mixed in with this board since so many of the girls here want to talk about it. I don't see the reason not to. I mean, if we're going to separate lolita from the rest of the fashion world, why not its cohorts such as mori, gyaru, etc. It pisses me off when people here scream like "TAKE IT TO /FA/" because it's like shut the fuck up, clearly /fa/ doesn't want to hear about it but we all do

I would probably abandon /cgl/ for that. I love fashion but /fa/ is mostly dudes (who are seemingly mostly women hating homosexuals) and promote too much EDs or really unfashionable girls who wear boring clothes.

It shouldn't be /fa/shion, it should be /ma/ll.

I was so excited when that board opened, what a disappointed.

>>4034417
that's a good idea, but I'm afraid that the constant lolita drama might overshadow the fashion part.

also can we all request to moot to include alternative fashion here or have lolita and shit separated into its own board? is that possible? i don't mind sending him an e-mail or whatever about it if it'll actually do something

>>4034424
Pretty hair, moar?

>>4034422
I agree totally. I was so excited when /fa/ opened, but it's so boring now. I want a place that's open-minded and fashion-forward!

>>4034434
I only have one more picture of her, I love that haircolor :>

>>4034424

true, yeah ideally I'd like to have a /altfashion/, /cosplay/, and a /lolita/ board but I don't think lolita would be strong enough to stand on its own. The board would be way too slow and just filled with dramaz. At least if they put altfa and lolita in a board together it would be really easy to bury all the ~dramaz~

>>4034428
I would request that. But I don't know if mixing cosplay and alt fashion would work. I agree that lolita needs its own board, but I'd also like just a separate strange fashion board.

>What kind of peacoat do I get guyz
>Where do I find a polo shirt for cheap
>hi /fa/ do you like my boring clothes

Seriously everyday the same 5 conversations and photos.

>>4034456
agreed.

you forgot all the tripfag circle jerk threads, but those are pretty much on every board.

>>4034450
that's true. It might work just to have lolita included as one of many alt fashions on a board. And just call it /altfa/ or something while not incorporating lolita into the board title so as not to scare off people that might otherwise come to an altfashion place/encourage the loli dramus.

I agree! This should be stickied!

OP here, I have to go to work, but I'm glad a lot of people agree, I hope this thread is still up when I get back

Can we discuss high fashion on /altfa/? Because you can't really do it on /fa/. Or vintage, either. Unless it's like vintage trenchcoats or like goodwill finds.

>>4034487
It will be.
That's the main reason not to split up cosplay and lolita/jfashion.
This is already a very slow board, if we split it into two there's a good chance they just won't get enough traffic to be worth the server space.

>>4034502
OP here (though I should be leaving lol) I would love it if we could discuss high fashion on an alt fashion board. I've tried in the past to start threads on /fa/ about high fashion or avant garde fashion and no one there gives a fuck so I was disapoint.

>>4034503
/cgl/ will just go back to being about porn, like the old days.

>>4034530
my reaction

Maybe we should just take over /fa/.
Every time one of us wants to discuss real fashion, post it there AND link it here so we know to go over there until it picks up?

They would be so pissed and it would be glorious.

Yeah I think instead of having just a japanese fashion board, we should have a board for all the alternate styles /fa/ doesn't like. We have actually had many threads like these, but nothing will get done until someone actually e-mails moot. Maybe if we got an online petition going and sent it to him or something.

>>4034503
So maybe splitting lolita and cosplay up on /cgl/ wouldn't be a good idea, but just having /altfa/ would be amazing.

>>4034539
fuck you captcha-tan, always at the worst times.

>>4034543
OP here
that is exactly what I was thinking. I think japanese fashion is great, but there are so many other kinds of fashion that I would love to have a board dedicated too.

>>4034540
this idea is great. But I'm afraid the amount of trolls on /fa/ would destroy any good fashion threads we might start. :<

>>4034566
Trolls are everywhere, you must not be afraid.

>>4034570
true but I'd rather just avoid the mass drama of /fa/ and have our own /altfa/

We could try posting on /fa/ and linking in /cgl/ though, it's worth a shot.

If we can have a board for Pokemon, we should be able to have a board for alt fashion.

I really hope this happens eventually.

I agree, but more importantly I think you should tell me who is in the OP pic. Or where the picture is from. Ziggy lightning bolt + cute girl = love.

PS you have really good taste, if you've been posting the other pictures ITT. do you have a tumblr?

>>4034595
Plus I'd rather discuss fashion with you guys than /fa/ anyway.

i've always thought about having a mass spamming of altfashion threads on /fa/ just to get some different stuff in there. they'd probably chuck a huge bitchfit at first but might eventually get used to it and the board could be encompassing all fashion instead of just hipster/fa/gs

>>4034596

I don't know who the girl is, sadly, but thanks! I do have a tumblr, but I haven't been using it much at all. I'm going to start again though, I think.
http://etherealunreal.tumblr.com/

>>4034606
I stopped trying to do that a long time ago. Its not that they OMG HATE IT. Its that when you post your thread usually either gets no replies or is derailed. It would just be better to have a board where the user base is on the same level.

If I were a janitor, I would delete this thread.

>>4034617
why

>>4034617
Even though its not topic, its a thread advocating for a change that would benefit the board.

>>4034617
If you don't want these kinds of threads wouldn't it be beneficial to start a new board? yes? yes.

I've noticed that in the past year or so this board has started to be more about lolita/fashion than cosplay in general. Maybe separating them will revive the cosplay participants.

well i just sent an e-mail to moot about combining the boards. i hope he considers it lol. it might be beneficial for anyone that wants to see it happen to send an e-mail as well!

>>4034540
I LOVE THIS IDEA SO MUCH
I LOVE TROLLING AND ALT FASHION THIS COMBINES THESE THINGS OMGWTF :D

>>4034540
I was sort of wondering about something like that. Like, they don't like it, so what? Why can't we just fill the place with it?

Ok. How about this:
We set a date that most of us can agree on to start posting on /fa/.

Start making new threads about whatever alt fashion you want.

but also...

Respond to all of their posts with alt fashion, high fashion, anything non hipster (but possibly still relevant to the question) until they leave or just accept it, or until we have a new board.

And lastly (here comes the hard part)

Even if it's not a topic you know a lot about or are particularly interested in - if it is alt fashion related RESPOND and support the conversation until threads become more regular and accepted.

How does this sound?

>>4034708
I'd join in with that.

>>4034708
It could be /fa/ fridays, since we've got an F theme going, thus being easier to remember.

>>4034708
I would as well.
:V
And since we're all here already supporting the idea, we could started now.

>>4034702
You need to put together a coordinated effort.
If you go there one your own and say "hey, let's have a mori girl thread!" nobody will post. Most of them will just hide the thread and not even look twice at it.
The current residents of /fa/ hate alternate fashion and the only way you can change that is by sending a whole lot of people who do like alt fashion there. That way even if the /fa/gs don't like it the /altfa/ threads will still prosper.

Saying "fuck you I'm gonna post dolly kei here anyway" won't do anything.
You need to plan a full alternate fashion "raid" and get a lot of people involved.


... Which is basically what >>4034708 proposed, rendering this post largely moot anyway.

>>4034731
Okay well how about we plan this for Friday 28th Jan, at whatever time people think is best then? Gives us time to prepare our image folders etc.

>>4034708
Sure thing! Sounds great.

>>4034731
>>4034708
>>4034725
>>4034728
>>4034729


Let us begin /fa/ Fridays!

Someone with photoshop should make us a graphic that we can post here every friday until it picks up.

>>4034708
I like this idea.
>>4034739
Should we make a list of the alt styles we want to post so everyone can start getting images?

>>4034748
That's a good idea, as well as a good way for those of us unorganized folk can organize our folders of stuff we do have

>>4034748
Sounds like a good plan. I'm thinking we should pick four or five styles to make threads about. Any more than that and we'll be spreading ourselves too thin.

We should be able to keep four alive easily enough.

>>4034739
What's better? Giving a week of prep and telling people about it or just starting now and telling people along the way?

>>4034748
I forsee a prosperous week full of pic dump threads ahead

>>4034758
No way do we have the numbers to do anything right now. If you want it to be successful, we need as many people involved as possible. Giving a week's notice is better.

Topics...

Designer/high end/avant-garde
Mori/Natural Kei/Dolly
Maybe a Korean fashion one since those made pretty popular topics in the past?

>>4034758
I think giving everyone a week to get ammo will make the first raid a lot more powerful.

>>4034769
I agree with all three of these. We should throw in Jrock/visual kei/punk etc. in there since those are easy to find. Also how about unatrual hair color?

We should have a thread of real life people doing it RIGHT. Not asian mags, not models. Get them off their high horse that anyone who is interested in different styles has to be a grotesque weeabo who can't dress themselves.

>>4034783
Which shouldn't be too hard since Daily-dolly kei and the morigirl comm exists.
It's just going through the posts and picking and choose perfect examples

I know Lolita isn't a popular choice, but I'm wondering about a Lolita thread. Maybe not OTT or sweet, but something more elegant like classical perhaps?

>>4034783
I think we should be allowed to use magazines as filler though

I'll join in. It'll be fun, but i'm not sure anymore how often the tripfags are posting anymore.
I think dolly-kei and mori-girl, as well as high-end alternative fashions will be the most accepted.

>>4034801
I wish thinking this too. It would get alot of replies telling us to >>>/cgl/ but hey, it's something.

I was probably going to do one anyways since I have enough pics to fill a thread up with no help, though.

>>4034783
Now that is actually a bit hard with some styles. Though I do like this idea and I'll try to find some. How about we having shopping threads? We could have some that suggest different stores to go to for a particular style, and some asking where to find a item/similar item.

>>4034801
Lolita would be ok but keep it to like.. perfect coords, perfect hair, etc. Lets have only the creme de la creme of photo examples.

>>4034809
Shopping threads might be a bit difficult at first, since alt fashions aren't accepted there. We could combine it with the image threads but maybe we should wait until we get a better foothold in /fa/

...Am I allowed to pose non-j-fashion stuff here?

>>4034818
Then eventually when the whole thing settled, self post coordinate help threads.
Though that probably won't be for a while.

>>4034821
Of course

Not to sound negative, guys, but we might get deleted pretty fast.
/fa/ has an approved fashion sticky

>>4034818
True. If anything combining them with image threads would be our best bet.

>>4034801
I don't know about that.
Mori girl, dolly kei, gyaru and all that have no place to go, but lolita belongs in /cgl/

>>4034821
We should be, it is a fashion board. So anything fashion related (even asian) That's not lolita should be allowed.

>>4034803
Gyaru might be good too.
It shouldn't be as much of a shock to their system as some of the other styles.

>>4034821
Of course, anything that /fa/ doesn't usually like lol.
>>4034830
I think that sticky is mainly for the people who come and ask "I want to be /fa/, how do I do that?" or "What are some /fa/ shops?" etc. We might get deleted for essentially raiding the board though, but this should happen if we vary our styles.

>>4034844
To be fair, this is the weirdest raid I've ever seen.
It's a technically on topic raid

/fa/ needs to stop being babies. Just because its mainstream doesnt mean they should be completely shut off to other kinds of fashion

>>4034847
Yeah its kind of a crazy to think that we would be doing what a raid does only on topic. In all seriousness though, the mods do seem to have one style on their mind. You can go there, and lets say start a mori girl thread, and not have your thread deleted since its in compliance with the rules. However in a large volume, I do have a fear that we might get BAWLETED.

>>4034844
>>4034864
But it's better than nothing, right? I mean, can't say we didn't try?

>>4034864
Which is why I suggested we only make four or five threads. Maybe even as few as three or four. There's no point in going all out and making hundreds of threads. Then we really will get deleted.

Personally I think our best bets would be:
Gyaru, Mori, Dolly and some kind of high end aventgarde fashion.

I made this but eh, feel free to make your own!

captcha: prepto Utopias

Indeed captcha, indeed.

Moves to /fa/ were it belongs.

MORE PEOPLE MORE INTEREST

>>4034869
Plus if we do it all at once we'll get burnt out and probably just go back to /cgl/.

>>4034866
Of course, its just something to consider.
>>4034869
I see what your saying. It shouldn't be hard to manage the threads to 4-5 since /fa/ is pretty slow.
>>4034872
Love it, saved.

I approve of this thread. Good luck anons. I hope you succeed.

Postin' a frand

nope - everything is fine the way it is. but im just gonna throw my shit out here.

/fa/ is more general clothing, that is what clothing pieces you can rotate throughout the week while looking SUBTLY fashionable with just a PINCH of your own personality.
i dont think anything right now is "out" unless you mean generic mall crap that anyone can pull off.
to me /fa/ is pretty open minded if you don't make yourself into a billboard of a brand or yourself - but everyone gets fucking shunned because
a. tryhard up the ass
b. nothing fits properly (usually correlates with a.)
c. it's pulled out from a mall store's mannequin

>>4034941
or you aren't a waifish faggot.

>>4034947
>jealous fat

>>4034954
would that work on Charizard or B-O-Y?

Hey guys, can we make it somewhat later (like 1 EST) on friday?
I have an exam that day.

/af/ - Alternative Fashion

I'mokaywiththis.jpg

>>4034958
>implying any of them are slim

>>4034970
they aren't waifs, but they aren't fat by any metrics other than /fa/s

>>4034963
/fa/ is slow, I'm sure all the threads we post will last for the day.

Erm. I just visited /fa/ a moment ago. I think they'd rather keep hipsters away from the board as much as possible. Also, it's not "lolita/cosplay fashion" it's
"cosplay/lolita fashion".

just sayin'

>>4034974
/fa/ is nothing *but* hipsters

>>4034958
maybe american workwear. they really just need midrange raw denim and some decent service boots or something. theyre bulky white right?
>>4034974
>>4034977
define hipsters. are you the faggots who keep making CHOOSE MY VANS, I HAVE >$100 TO SPEND AT THE MALL threads?

>>4034992
Gross. This is why we need to claim /fa/.
>are you the faggots who keep making CHOOSE MY VANS, I HAVE >$100 TO SPEND AT THE MALL threads?
Yeah, that would be us, even though, you know, there have been nothing but complaints of that bullshit in this thread.

>>4035528
>alden
>gross
underage detected - go wear your black adidas
>complaints of that bullshit
yup we need a new board where fashionably challenged faggots can talk about what's the best mall store they can shop at

>nothing but complaints of that bullshit in this thread.
I thought you were complaining about how your asian clothing weren't being "accepted" by /fa/. Broadly speaking, there's a reason why it's a minority.

bump for /atf/

Participating in /fa/ friday.
I'll save up for/start a rave clothes thread.

I personally thing /fa/ is for fashion and every fashion (other than lolita) should be welcomed there.

Most of their threads are the same repetitive shit anyway. They need to spice it up.

I hate /fa/'s userbase as much as the next person and alt fashion is alirght, but a board mutiny is kind of a dick move. Even if it's on topic, it would just incur their wrath and they would shitpost here in retaliation, we have enough problems as it is. Boards have their own way of doing things, let's try and respect their culture, invasions don't accomplish anything, they're a nuisance for everyone.

I agree with this thread SO FUCKING MUCH. I'm sending an email to moot.

>>>/fa/3130888

They are aware

>this thread
a new board revolving around lolita fashion - /cgl/ is more retarded than i thought
make a look book spread to prove me otherwise

Just emailed moot. Hopefully if he gets enough messages from all of us alt fashion lovers we'll get what we want!

>>4035865
>a new board revolving around lolita fashion

That's not what this thread is about.

>>4035873
what's it about?
define "alternative fashion" and how it's gradually different from "current fashion" as well as how much content can an /afa/ board produce

seriously i feel like this a bunch of women bitching

>>4035888
Read the thread, I'm not gonna rehash it for you.

I'll be participating! I'm tired of posting there with legit questions only to be totally ignored. I feel like they don't know anything about fashion outside their own niche of what they've deemed acceptable. It's the same shit every day.

>>4035895
>not very helpful, interested or open-minded about wanting to offer advice on dressing in a way that they don't feel is "in".
so umad that people dont agree with what you wear? fucking deal with it - dont make a new board where you all have to agree and hoard compliments.
and what is fashion? wearing/applying something drastic to stand out - that's individualism.
also you're proposing a new board but you cant explain it in layman's terms? lazy fuck

>>4035903
So you change the subject just because I won't explain various alternative j-fashions to you? We weren't even discussing what you're going on about now.

>>4035912
No shit sherlock - if you don't answer fucking anything I have to bring more shit up.

Seriously?
>alternative j-fashions
This is what the board is composed of?

>>4035903
Lol you obviously don't know how to read, but 'hoard compliments' made me laugh. As if there's a limited amount of compliments and we MUST HAVE THEM ALL.

>>4035922
Obviously not or else we wouldn't be talking about wanting our own board. You don't seem to be displaying much common sense thus far.

>>4035926
Comment + pic = win.

>>4035922
why are you a lazy shit

if you don't know what /altfa/ would be about then clearly it's not the board for you, deal with your exclusion and dry your sad little eyes

>>4035926
Precious compliments~
We must haves them all

Raiding /fa/ is useless. It's too slow, few people will realise that they're actually getting raided.

Also /altfa/ will be even less active than /fa/. Why don't you just post on /fa/ and ignore the people who disagree with your fashion.
Right now it seems that you're just butthurt that the majority of /fa/ doesn't approve of you.

There isn't a need for one. If enough people wanted one they would be flooding /fa/ with that kind of content, like the /soc/fags used to do on b,r9k and adv.

> go to /fa/
> see nothing but nice-looking men in suits
> get slightly interested in nice-looking men in suits but see nothing relevant to actual fashion interests
> crawl back into /cgl/ cave

Also I think most of you have to realise most people on /fa/ just want to look good, they don't want to stand out or war borderline costumes. I think most of you people on /cgl/ have a much larger desire to "dress up" then your average /fa/ggot.

These are just my 2 cents though.

>>4035989
That's actually what we're planning.

If one of us was to post on /fa/ and ignore anyone who disagreed with them, they'd be the only one posting in any thread they started.
We're not going to try to drive the "normal" folks out of /fa/, just add less mainstream fashions to the mix by sending a lot of people who are into alternate fashion there.

We're really only calling it a "raid" for lack of a better word.
The purpose of /fa/ friday is definitely NOT to piss off the /fa/gs. Sure that will happen, but it's not our goal.

>>4035992
Read the thread, man, read the thread.

>>4036010
tldr

>>4036009
i dont see the exuberant backing

>>4035994
That's the problem. Why don't just start a thread instead of
>crawl back into /cgl/ cave.

Dump stuff and keep discussing it, this way you'll earn your respect.

>>4036013
Why bother posting when you don't bother reading? Like talking to a wall.

Just to be clear, when we say alt fashion, we don't just mean Japanese alt fashion, do we? I gathered at the beginning of this thread that people were also talking about high fashion and such, but now it seems like it's just about j-fashion, which... sorry to say, but the mori girl comm on LJ is mostly intro posts for a reason. You can't populate more than a thread or two with it.

What about other alt fashion, though? What about goth, cyber, steampunk? Rockabilly? Retro? Pinup? Vintage?

>>4036017
Why are you posting if you don't think I'm reading?

>>4036001
This isn't about forcing the people on /fa/ to like other styles.

Changing the opinion of "the average /fa/g" doesn't have to mean winning them over to your side.
Think of it as like an attempt to increase the average height of the citizens of a city. Sure, you can try to stretch all the people living there and try to make them taller, but getting a lot of tall people to move there will also increase the average height by counteracting the short people.
We don't need to force the people on /fa/ to like other styles to make the board more alt. fashion friendly, bringing in a lot of people who already do like alternate fashions will work just as well

>>4036023
I personally would like to include all alt fashion into this, it's jsut that most of the people supporting the idea of an alt fashion board happen to be focused on the alt j-fashions.

>>4036025
Because you asked.

>>4036016
> implying that "Dump stuff and keep discussing it" is not exactly what this thread is about.

>>4035946

>>4036041
Yeah, I'm totally saving that one right there

>>4036036
>implying this thread isn't about raiding /fa/ on fridays

>>4036023
>>4036023
>Goth, Cyber
People still do this?
>Steampunk
/cgl/
>Rockabilly, Retro, Pinup, Vintage
First three all fall under Vintage. Vintage is already /fa/.

>>4036047
only acceptable hipster vintage

>>4036053
it's acceptable because you can casually wear it with other pieces

also you dont disagree with the other catagories? there you go

>>4036056
>it's acceptable because you can casually wear it with other pieces

And you can't do that with these other alt fashions? We're not talking lolita here

>>4036047
>Steampunk
>/cgl/

Steampunk does not belong in /cgl/.
/cgl/ is only for cosplay and lolita, but things like steampunk end up here because /fa/ won't take them and they have nowhere else to go.
Steampunk belongs in /fa/

>>4036059
Steampunk outfits are costumes. Costumes belong to cosplay. That's my opinion.

>>4036061
This.

>>4036058
Well you tell me what pieces you can take out of Goth, Cyber, and Steampunk is fashionable
>>4036059
You have never seen the Steampunk threads that pop up ever now and then - even /cgl/ shuns them

>>4036041
I'm the one who posted >>4035926 and I have to say that I will be saving this and using it whenever applicable. =D

>>4036061
Let's be honest, most of the "alternative fashion" people talk about in here are costumes too.

>>4036079
It's not funny, now please stop samefagging.

OP here, wow, this thread got linked to /fa/ and went downhill fast. What a surprise.

>>4036084
Not samfagging, but if it makes you feel any better keep believing it.

>>4035903
I was just proposing a place to discuss different sorts of fashion so as not to bother either /fa/ OR /cgl/ with those sort of threads.
This has nothing to do with someone agreeing or disagreeing with what I like to wear. It has more to do with trying to be nice and not clutter up /fa/ with posts about styles they don't like. :/

>>4036088
Check again. The link that was posted on /fa/ is on page 3 now, and got no replies.
No one on /fa/ (but me) gives a shit about you.
The reason your thread went downhill is because it was a stupid idea in the first place.

>>4036108
OP here, that wasn't me. I am here lurking the thread though!
I don't think it's a stupid idea. But we all have our own opinions.

>>4036105
You CAN discuss all sorts of fashion on /fa/. But you'll have to realize that only a few people are into stuff like japanese fashion, goth, lolita, etc.

>>4036108
I think it's a good idea, you're just hatin

>>4036118
But lots of people are into things like hair dye, vintage clothing, high fashion, etc, but they still don't discuss it and completely ignore it there.

I personally don't want a new board, I just want /fa/ to be more encompassing.

>>4036118
All we're trying to do is increase the number of people who are into it.

>>4036115
>>4036119
Let me get this straight. I agree with you that /fa/ should be more open minded about alternative fashion, BUT it's 4chan after all. Tolerance on 4chan? Won't happen.

As I said I think the idea of raiding /fa/ is stupid and won't do shit. /fa/ will hate you even more after that.

>>4036127
Because honestly the people who are on that board have zero experience with the product or it's slow/not a strong base. If /fa/ failed at delivering what you need how would a new board fix it? It will just fall back into /fa/.
>Hair dye
/cgl/ probably has more experience with this - we have skin care threads
>Vintage
Already /fa/
>High fashion
Mostly a minority (W+H, Flat Head, w/e) - still appears


>>4036105
As previously stated
a. /fa/ is slow (Even SuFu and SF are sometimes slow)
b. Mostly male oriented fashion
c. Everyone has different financial outlooks - unfortunately majority don't have the money to spend on $$$$ thus locked into brands that are "boring" or common

>>4036142
I hope you're not expecting us to explain our argument, because we already have many times, and you clearly haven't even bothered to read any of those posts.

You refuse to be pleased, so I'm just going to stop trying.


I mean, it's not like we even need your approval to go ahead with this.

i think that /cgl/ should just encompass all j-fashions and become /jfa/. why is lolita so special that it deserves its own board but not the other retarded psuedo-fashion costumes?

>>4036161
But that does still leave us with a lot of non-Japanese fashions that /fa/ doesn't like, and nowhere for them to go.

>>4034390
>Don't get me wrong, /fa/ has its place, but the people there tend to be very set in their style, and not very helpful, interested or open-minded about wanting to offer advice on dressing in a way that they don't feel is "in".

Doesn't matter. If you want to discuss something related to fashion, do it on /fa/.

But, if you want what you want right now, go to 420chan's fashion board. They are what you are describing, a fashion board more apt to alternative fashion.

>>4036156
>I hope you're not expecting us to explain our argument, because we already have many times, and you clearly haven't even bothered to read any of those posts.
What argument?
I've read all posts in this thread and it all comes down to this:
>/fa/ doesn't like us
>let's raid /fa/, that will show them
That's classic butthurt at it's finest.

I don't know guys, I kind of like us all here, together on /cgl/. And I mean EVERYONE, even if it doesn't fit under cosplay and lolita. But maybe I'm a weirdo for thinking this, and agreeing with >>4035839.

Anyway, I'll be sure to check out the raid on the 28th, for what it's worth.

I do think there should be a /jfa/ board. but I don't think there's serious call for non-/jfa/ alt fashion. Occasional vintage threads would almost definitely be fine in /jfa/, they're already fine in /egl/.

Also, speed IS NOT the determining factor of a board's value. 2chan has plenty of obscure boards with niche but dedicated followings. For example:
/ic/ (I believe it's the slowest board on 4chan)
/3/
/c/
/u/
/w/
All significantly slower than /cgl/. Most are probably slower than /cgl/ split in half. But they also tend to discuss a lot more of, you know, what the board is supposed to be about. /cgl/ is now /cgl/ - Anything related to conventions, cosplay, lolita, Japanese fashion, high fashion, vintage fashion, associated drama, or HEY, just random fucking greentext stories about your life! Why not, I mean, /r9k/ is gone anyway!

Which is ridiculous. /cgl/ should not cover that breadth of topics.

The way I see it, it could break down into
/cos/ and /egl/ (the most obvious)
/cos/ and /jfa/
/cos/ and /altfa/
/con/ and /cgl/ (with /con/ being a general convention discussion board)
/con/ and /egl/
/con/ and /jfa/
/drama/ and /cgl/

But somehow, it needs to happen. /cgl/ no longer really has any structure. /v/ is the only board I can think of that has fewer topical posts. Idgaf about all of this greentext, BAWWW and /adv/, and it's gotten far worse recently.

>>4036254
I would love for there to be /diy/, /con/ and /altfa/. Then I wouldn't have to wade through fifteen pages to find the actual topic I'm interested in at any given moment.

>no fashion sense
>go on a board dedicated to fashion
>complain about fashion and talk about alternative fashion
>get annoyed when you're shunned

This is stupid.
We need a /af/.

>>4036254
>/ic/ (I believe it's the slowest board on 4chan)

Come visit us sometime.

hey OP ur welcome to come to /fa/ any time you like but before you do grow up and stop dressing like shit.

I was linked here from /fa/.
You are all a bunch of degenerate weeaboo scum.
Probably fat too.

>>4036318
>>4036320
>proof that /fa/ is crap

>implying the slowest board on 4chan needs to be split up

I think - just my opinion - that /cgl/ shold divide, into a cosplay board and then a lolita/everyotherjapanesefashion board. I love it here and all, but I do miss the times when it was mainly cosplay. I think some of the lolita stuff posted here is nice, but it's really not my kind of thing, and I really couldn't give a shit about pinkzombies or who likes Chokelate's nipples more, just because they're not part of the thing I'm interested in, if that makes sense. Adella/PL/PT? Yeah, sure, keep 'em coming, because I can relate to it more.

Sigh. I know this won't happen, but it would be nice if there was just a cosplay board, there might even be progress threads that didn't get shunted all the way to the last page and then forgotten about.

>>>/fa/3131258

Requesting the most fashionable non-sweet loli's ever to get posted.

Hi, I'm a /fa/ lurker. I wouldn't really mind if you people posted threads on /fa/ to spice it up a bit. Right now 80% of threads there are about men's shoes which all look the same. However, I wouldn't like it to be ONLY lolita + men's shoes either, so keep an open mind yourselves.

>>4036365
Different topics could incluse mori and gyaru. Not sure what all the other fashions in here are about, but these are the most prominent ones.

Also, I'd die for European alternative fashions because I love quirky looks, but I'm too much of a tool to step outside of jeans + t-shirt.

holy fucking ass bananas this thread is STILL ALIVE.

/cgl/ is fine kids, stop whining. Why do you want into /fa/ anyways?