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  • Kimmo Alm aka "Sysop" from AnT has been spamming us for YEARS now, and has recently stepped it up. This shit has got to fucking stop. As promised, here are all of the e-mails he has sent me over the years (and my responses).

    We've done all we can do about him. We've banned THOUSANDS of proxies, and deleted OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND spam posts. His attacks continue though, and we've reached the limit of what we can do.
    edit: we aren't going to add captcha.

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    36 KB Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)07:42 No.2685636  
    Lay it on me /cgl/, I'm listening
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)07:44 No.2685638
    I had something perfect to post in this thread all week and I couldn't wait until someone made one so I could let it out.

    Now I can't remember what it was FUCK
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)07:52 No.2685644
    I'm worried about driving in this rain to Megacon.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)07:54 No.2685648
    >>2685644
    Seconded - I hate driving in the rain. Fix it!
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)08:34 No.2685670
    I'm worried everyone will think my May costume is shitty at Megacon. I did the best I could for my first time making it..
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)08:40 No.2685675
    There are times when I'm afraid to cosplay just because I don't want to end up here at 4chan on some "worst cosplays ever"-thread.

    I know I'm not that bad (or fat) but I can't help the feeling every time I post something on dA/cosplay.com

    I hope I'm not the only one feeling like this?
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)08:56 No.2685695
    >>2685675

    You're not the only one. I'm a little above average-looking, but I'm still self-conscious about cosplaying.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)08:59 No.2685698
    I'm just so sick of being single.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)09:05 No.2685706
    I wish I could just get rid of my anxiety disorders already, there's so much I want to do with my life but it keeps holding me back.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)09:08 No.2685709
    >>2685670
    You did your best and that, in my book, hold you much higher than all the people with bought costumes.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)09:38 No.2685743
    Im crushing hard on my sort-of best friend, who also happens to be a classmate. He also likes me quite a lot.
    We've decided to never start dating cause we're both scared it would ruin our friendship if we ever broke up, and because he likes(liked) his girlfriend 100 times more than me, which is understandable.
    Today I didnt go to school cause I've been sick all week. And today of all days, he broke up with his girlfriend, and really needed his best friend by his side to cheer him up.
    I feel fucking terrible about this. We wont see eachother till monday so I cant do anything to make him feel better, except telling him "Im so sorry" over the phone. And thats not exactly something that helps much.

    tl;dr I feel like a terrible bff.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)09:55 No.2685757
    I'm considering quitting cosplay because I always manage to get sucked into drama by some of my cosplay friends and I'm fed up of it.
    I've recently heard one of "friends" going around behind my back telling everyone I'm a complete slut and anyone can get with me, which has really upset me cause i don't know who to trust now and i've been in love with one of my closest friends for 5 months and avoided going on dates or seeing anyone else in the hope they'll notice me.

    tl;dr unrequited love and cosplay drama sucks
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)10:01 No.2685762
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    >>2685636

    I keep having fucked up dreams about a friend of mine that has been stressing me out. Each of the dreams are different but with one thing in common. He keeps finding ways to make me submit to his desires when no one else is looking. Sometimes his desires are sexual and other times he's just getting me to do things for him like sew something for him, or call somebody for him so he doesn't have to talk to them, or walk his stupid dog. It's really starting to bother me because how am I supposed to just not think about it when we don't really choose what we dream about?
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)10:08 No.2685771
    I'm actualy kind of happy, because spring is finally here and I passed my next CET exam, so I can ask for a raise in August, when I'm eligible for my cert. All you depressed people, Feel better soon!!
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)10:18 No.2685788
    >>2685709

    I love you <3
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)10:19 No.2685790
    >>2685743
    but now is when you make your move. be good to him and he'll swing your way.

    my boyfriend and I started that way too, and now we've been together for 3 years

    I'm rooting for you!!!!
    >> anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)10:22 No.2685792
    >>2685757
    can i get your number?
    >> Rein !!ptMh3q7YMD1 03/12/10(Fri)10:32 No.2685799
    >>2685675
    >>2685695

    Usually you can only end up something like that if you're really fucked up your costume/ really fugly. If you know your costume isn't that bad and you don't look half bad, then you have nothing to worry about. People just feed on vendettas around here.
    >> Rein !!ptMh3q7YMD1 03/12/10(Fri)10:36 No.2685802
    >>2685757
    Life's all about the pursuit of happiness.Why let some little shits bring you down? Try to think back to what you loved about cosplay.. Also, why not try telling the person you like them? I know that doesn't sound easy, but it'll save you trying to lure him out.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)10:39 No.2685804
    >>2685788
    You will always be more special in something you've worked hard on than something you've bought. Good luck, I hope I see some pictures of you in you wonderful costume.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)11:27 No.2685874
    Why do certain people just give the silent treatment and remove you from all the social networking sites instead of telling you the problem even when you ask what their problem is? Then the same people gossip about you but still won't say a single word to you?

    Why do they do this and what is the best way to deal with people like this.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)11:31 No.2685885
    Over the past few months, I've become that creepy antisocial shut-in that kids tell urban legends about. And I'm alright with it.
    >> Denmark !bIFZjECh1o 03/12/10(Fri)11:33 No.2685888
    >>2685874
    Oh man I hate this kind of thing, a friend did this to me recently.

    >Why do they do this and what is the best way to deal with people like this.
    Cause they're dicks, and the best way to deal with them is--Dont. Theyre douchebags and not worth it.

    >>2685790
    Trust me I want to make a move, but I want to wait a while longer untill I know he's feeling better about the whole break-up.
    Wouldnt want him to start dating me -only- to forget about his ex-girlfriend.

    Polite sage.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)11:46 No.2685896
    I feel left out of the cosplay scene because I'm a lolita, but I feel left out of the lolita scene because I'm a cosplayer.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)11:50 No.2685900
    >>2685888
    Weren't you bragging about finally having a boyfriend recently
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)12:03 No.2685920
    >>2685888
    This is the second time this has happen in the past 3 years. It just makes cons so uncomfortable when talking to mutual friends.

    One was close enough to invite me to non con family events and then she just started pulling the silent treatment and then just nothing.
    >> Shiva !!eIGgijbH9xY 03/12/10(Fri)12:03 No.2685922
    >>2685675
    Same for me...I feel like my cosplays are between shitty and ok. Usually because I rush them and finish them in a few hours just to get it done. I'm hoping this time, since I'm taking my time with Miku Zatsune.that it will turn out good. Gonna go buy the wig in an hour or so. I would like to admit I cosplay mostly to make friends, seeing as they have all been such wonderful and caring friends. <3
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)12:10 No.2685932
    I'm intensely desperate for my boyfriend to take me back, and it's killing me that I'm acting like such a crazy ex, even if I don't let myself show it.
    >> Denmark !bIFZjECh1o 03/12/10(Fri)12:13 No.2685936
    >>2685900
    Yep, I was. Im not gonna start telling my lifestory on here however, so no more information for you.

    >>2685920
    I know what you mean. It can make things pretty uncomfortable.
    Best thing to do is ignore it, since theres not much to do anyways. :<
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)12:29 No.2685960
    >>2685936
    I still would like to know the mentality of people who pull stunts like this. Are they too scared to tell people to their face their issues and actually resolve said issues? Do they just thrive on Drama? Are they just assholes?

    I would like to hear from someone who has done this. I know at least one girl who trolls 4chan regularly has done this so I'm hoping they speak up.
    >> UnaSpi !yE6zp7JGyQ 03/12/10(Fri)12:54 No.2686011
    >>2685936

    I'm feeling melancholy because a certain Danish bro of mine is never on AIM or MSN so I never get to talk with her anymore.
    >> Denmark !bIFZjECh1o 03/12/10(Fri)12:58 No.2686021
    >>2686011
    SEE YOU IN TWO MINUTES

    >>2685960
    I would love to know why they do it too. From my experience they just dont have the guts to be honest.
    Those kind of people arent worth being friends with in my opinion anyways.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)13:02 No.2686029
    Wow, guys. Wow.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)13:07 No.2686035
    >>2685874
    Oh dude I know what you mean. Ithought it was an age thing. You know, cause young folk don't know how to properly deal with things they dont like. Not enough life exp. Then I saw a couple of dramatastic 30 somethings do it. Some people are just dicks. Only thing to do is forget you knew them.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)13:08 No.2686039
    >>2685792
    ......err...

    >>2685802

    I'm unlikely to actually quit as dammit i've spent too many hours of my life making costumes!
    and thanks :) maybe I will be brave and finally tell them!
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)13:32 No.2686075
    >>2686035
    I guess my problem is. I never dealt with people who did stuff like that until Cosplay. Yea these people are in their mid - late 20s as well. I never had this problem when I was in High School or College.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)13:37 No.2686082
    I know putting off working on my costume until the last second stresses me out like nobody's business, but here I am on /cgl/ definitely not working on my costume.

    Why do I do that?
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)14:46 No.2686285
    >>2685762
    Fapfapfap.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)14:48 No.2686299
    I'm moving out soon but I don't have a penny saved. I'm so scared
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)15:22 No.2686407
    >>2686299
    I'm moving out soon, and I do have a penny saved, but I'm still scared.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)15:25 No.2686420
    >>2686299
    I moved out, and I didn't have a penny saved. You'll be okay, anon. Just be smart.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)15:33 No.2686449
    I'm not moving out, I have not a penny saved, I'm kinda scared.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)15:35 No.2686462
    I can't seem to interest myself in dating anyone. It's been two and a half years since my last relationship. I've been out on many dates. When I was a kid, I had a crush every other week, and I spent my time from junior year of high school to junior year of college in long-term relationships with probably six months of single time.

    I can't even be attracted to someone if I find out they're interested. What is wrong with me?
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)15:36 No.2686465
    >>2686462
    you're gay
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)15:36 No.2686467
    >>2686462
    your gay.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)15:40 No.2686491
    >>2686465
    >>2686467
    HAHA.

    Well, if that were the case I probably would have already figured it out, since I've dated both men and women.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)15:41 No.2686496
    >>2686491
    Looks like our diagnosis was correct.

    :sunglasses:
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)15:41 No.2686502
    >>2686491
    hm....... try dogs. NEXT.
    >> Moose !!xpnfPG3jRm9 03/12/10(Fri)16:09 No.2686621
    I honestly don't know where I am going in life.
    I have many aspirations to accomplish and yet when I look to the future to see how I can achieve them...I only see a giant black wall instead, blocking me from what I want to do.
    This is why I'm giving up on lots of things...it's so difficult to keep my head high when you can't see where you're going, y'know?
    And then lots of stressstressstress to add onto it, it's so overwhelming.

    Ugh.
    Well, I guess since I got that out it helps a little :>
    I can only hope that the future will be a good one.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)16:11 No.2686625
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    >>2686502
    POW! Right in the kisser!
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)17:13 No.2686804
    >>2686021
    So true. It's not worth being friends with drama filled cowards
    >> Charizard !VGgzyrjHeY 03/12/10(Fri)17:33 No.2686878
    The Mustard Plug and Aquabats show is tonight and I can't go. ='(
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)18:31 No.2687066
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    It's not forever, I'll pull myself together, I'll say that I'll forget him, I'll breathe.

    And I'll say he never hurt me and look at it as learning and laugh about the good and the bad. Because I won't live forever, we don't belong together. I know I'll feel better one day when I can make it through.

    ;_;
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)18:49 No.2687143
    I've got a psychopath who doesn't even know me going behind my back and gossiping and slandering me all the time. I don't even care what is being said and I haven't seen anyone buy into it or care but I am irritated by the audacity and hypocrisy of it. Even sadder is I bet this thread will have several people saying pretty much the same thing as me because this hobby is rotten to the core.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)18:52 No.2687153
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    I finally realized that, to be a popular lolita, you have to be neutral about everything. That's what people like mintymix do. I just hate when people are wrong on the internet
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)19:04 No.2687190
    >>2687153
    I like how the chest hair accentuates his boobs
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)19:05 No.2687195
    >>2687143
    If you were never friends the girl then people who know you will know she is lying. If you were friends with her confront her and have a discussion about what your hearing. If it seems like she is just spouting bullshit then keep your distance and hope she isn't a popular cosplayer that will try to get people to side with her.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)19:13 No.2687210
    I agreed to go to a friends house later tonight to play video games and eat pizza with a bunch of our friends, only problem is there is going to be a guy there that I really really don't want to even look at. I agreed to go when I knew he was going to be there, but now I am rethinking my decision.

    also my BF is refusing to clean the house by himself even though the last two times he promised to help me he just slept all day and I had to clean the whole place by myself. Now he thinks it is unfair of me to not want to have to clean this time. dick.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)19:23 No.2687242
    >>2687195
    I'm definitely keeping my distance and not antagonizing the situation. She thinks I am but I think if I continue to not do anything she'll give up. I'm hoping at least. I like peace with everyone. Thanks for the advice.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)19:52 No.2687288
    I worry that steampunk is too out of fashion, especially for cons. :c
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)20:34 No.2687367
    >>2687210 also my BF is refusing to clean the house by himself even though the last two times he promised to help me he just slept all day and I had to clean the whole place by myself. Now he thinks it is unfair of me to not want to have to clean this time. dick.

    total dick. don't clean and don't do anything special for him.
    >> bonk 03/12/10(Fri)21:42 No.2687565
    I want to work on my OZ Trowa costume, but my sewing machine just decided to go fuck itself and I don't know how to fix it.

    I also want to frame my Wall-E lithographs but my frames are too huge and my room is a mess. I have five years worth of anime shit I don't want any more but can't seem to sell.

    I want to hang out with my local friends but everyone is down in Georgia for a Dagorhir event. I drove back from Indy to help out at a library which sucked, so I find myself wishing I was still in Indy working on cosplay.

    I'm trying to clicker train my beagle but she's so ornery and spoiled that it's nearly impossible. I want another dog of my own because my parents have totally turned my beagle into a demon animal but my parents won't let me get one.

    Soul Silver comes out this weekend but I want FFXIII too and I'm too much of a cheap bastard to drop that much of my own money on both of them, especially since my sewing machine is fucked and I don't want to pay to have it fixed either. I spent $50 on the machine and repairing it will probably cost more. I also have a paper due Monday that I haven't even started.

    I'm cranky and irritable lately and had someone I considered a friend bitch me out over Facebook (second time I've had friend problems like this in a year). I either am messed up or need to stop finding people like this and having them in my life.

    All of my awesome friends live far away, too, and my mother practically breaks down and cries whenever I leave the house. I'm also forbidden to leave after dark now because some psycho in my city (not even neighborhood!) climbed in the back seat of some woman's unlocked car and raped her and they didn't catch him yet.

    Nothing huge or anything, but man it's frustrating in my life right now. Plus I can't find my red belt for Daisuke and I didn't have time to take photos in it when I was in Indy. Boo.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)21:44 No.2687574
    My boyfriend just got a job a couple of months ago, so he's gone all of the time. Now when he comes home, he has a big attitude and is pretty rude. Not always, but usually, and it's really getting on my nerves. I just want our time together to be happy and stressless.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)22:04 No.2687615
    I never really had friends before i started hanging out with the local anime club. Made some great friends and now they have a girl in the group that hates me, and i was told i am no longer alowed to hang with them. They act like i should be cool with it but i am not. Now i am all alown agen. What do i do?
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)22:11 No.2687631
    >>2685636
    Relationship limbo. That's all there is to it, really. I want her to be happy, and it's probably selfish to want her to be happy with me, but it's not like I've pressed the matter anymore than need be. Just gotta wait, c'est la vie.
    >> Sieg !VhSiegR26w 03/12/10(Fri)22:19 No.2687663
    >>2687565

    Shit, man. Get it together. Money was meant to be spent. There's no point in holding onto it if you've got shit you need to use it for. As for the 5 years of anime crap, try selling it on ebay, but before that put it in a bunch of boxes and put that shit away. It's what I did. I don't have a fuckton anymore, but what I do have I want to hang onto even if it's just in a closet or something. Get fuckin crackin on that paper, too. Fuck FFXIII and SS. They'll be there after the paper. It might be a nice way to reward yourself afterward. People bitch people out on facebook, it's no big deal. I don't know the situation so I can't tell you who was wrong, but people who bitch people out on facebook or online at all won't do it IRL (unless they will, but usually not).

    Anyways, relax and think about priorities.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)22:22 No.2687672
    I love him way more than he loves me, and it's obvious, but I know I don't deserve better than him.
    >> bonk 03/12/10(Fri)22:27 No.2687681
    >>2687663

    Good points, man. Good points. I may get SS and stop after each gym to work on my paper. I'm looking forward to writing it--it's not a tough paper--it's just like, "ugh, paper to write--why am I not in Indianapolis right now?"
    >> bonk 03/12/10(Fri)22:30 No.2687686
    >>2687631

    Be content that they're just...happy in general. If you push too hard too quickly they'll break. I'm speaking from experience (I know the "I want them to be happy, and I'm selfish because I want them to be happy with ME" too well). It's better to remain good friends than not friends at all because things backfired horribly.

    Waiting sucks. It sucks a lot, especially when you don't know if what you're waiting for will ever even happen. Good luck. I hope it ends well.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)22:31 No.2687687
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    >>2687574 Now when he comes home, he has a big attitude and is pretty rude

    I understand. Jobs can make you less pleasant to be around unless you love your work which most people do not.
    He's probably bad at separating life from work, you know, leaving the job where it belongs... at the job.

    Find a nice way of telling him you know its not fun going to work or having to listen to assholes all day but he really should try to not let them ruin his entire day. Help him remember that you are the GOOD part of his day.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)22:36 No.2687700
    >>2686420
    did you live in your car? HALP
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)22:37 No.2687703
    >>2687687
    Haha, cute picture, and you're right. I do try, but it's just sometimes he snaps back at me when I say something, and I know he usually wouldn't have done it.

    Two days ago he apologized for being mean to me lately and reminded me of how much he loves me. It means the world to me. I hope he can stay happy.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/10(Fri)22:59 No.2687758
    >>2687686
    Oh, I am content that she's happy in general, I don't think I inferred otherwise. And like I said, I've pressed as far as I want, ball is in her court and till then I'll just keep on keeping on.
    >> silver 03/12/10(Fri)23:36 No.2687889
    >>2686449

    awwwright, brofist over here. going to school and i've got $40 to my name...which i'll be putting into my car tomorrow. and the best part is, i just spent $50 at Megacon. but damnit, that shit was fun. except that now i haven't a clue as to what's gonna happen...
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)00:13 No.2687982
    >>2685636
    bump
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)00:16 No.2687990
    Everything anybody ever says, ever, will be taken negatively by someone.

    I have to learn either to stand up for myself in the face of this inescapable negativity, thus subjecting myself to even more hostility, be absolutely neutral about everything, ever, or just be quiet.

    And I don't like being quiet.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)00:51 No.2688102
    I hate people who always have to have the last word in a conversation and always have to be right. UGH women.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)02:11 No.2688239
    >>2688102
    >implying men aren't the same way
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)02:29 No.2688262
    THE FUCKER NEXT DOOR WILL NOT STOP HAVING SEX. HE HAS DONE IT THREE TIMES IN THE PAST TWO HOURS. I WANT TO SLEEP.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)02:33 No.2688269
    >>2688239
    In my case it's women. I didn't rule out men.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)03:07 No.2688315
    >>2688262
    bang on the wall. or blast really loud music.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)03:10 No.2688325
    I like one of my friends who happens to be the same gender as me, and now I am questioning my sexuality all together.
    But first I have to (wo)man up and ask her out. And I don't know how.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)03:13 No.2688331
    >>2688315
    Loud music while trying to sleep...
    >> rokkit 03/13/10(Sat)03:17 No.2688338
    >>2688262

    OH GOD, ARE YOU IN MY ROOM?

    i hate my fucking neighbors. it is 3 am, go to sleep. you do not need to have sex right now, nor is it the time for a mixed-martial-arts fight. i am being totally serious- if they are not fucking, they are bodyslamming one another into the walls. it's combination infuriating/hilarious...
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)03:50 No.2688400
    Really depressed for no good reason right now.

    Girlfriend's mad at me because I'm not super excited to hear that Troy Baker's going to be at a convention we're both attending in April, and because I hate the new Alice In Wonderland movie.

    Don't feel like making my cosplays, or continuing cosplaying... Just wanna sit in my bedroom with all my teddy bears from my childhood and sleep... and maybe draw every now and again.

    Worst part is, the girl I actually want to be with is with another girl, and the girl I'm with absolutely hates the girl I want to be with due to some past drama.

    And I have a head-cold, and bad cramps. Being a woman sucks. Bleh.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)03:59 No.2688413
    >>2688400 the girl I'm with absolutely hates the girl I want to be with due to some past drama.

    to be perfectly fair, it sounds like current girl has reason to hate dream girl. y'know, just sayin'...
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)04:03 No.2688422
    >>2688413

    Drama has nothing to do with dream girl, actually. Has to do with dream girls cousin and myself.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)04:11 No.2688444
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    I keep hanging out with this guy every weekend and I'm really unsure if he likes me or not. Or if I like him. I mean,he has other girls who are his friends and he hangs out with them too,but almost as if on cue during the weekend,I'll be thinking,"I wonder when so and so will call" and my phone will ring. This has pretty much been going on since the end of last summer. We don't do much,we almost always go to a movie,or we play video games. Tonight at around 7 he sent me a message asking if he could come over. It was all very much the same,we hung out.He just left.And it ALWAYS ends on an awkward note.Like,not that it was bad,but we both know we'll be seeing each other again soon,so we don't have to say much.

    tl;dr: I am unsure of this guy's motives and feelings
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)04:12 No.2688446
    going anon for this one.

    So this girl had been flirting with me for a long time now and I was being tsundere about it before finally deciding to give it a shot. We're all fine and dandy and happy until I find out a mutual friend of ours has feelings for my now-girlfriend.

    Drama ensues, friend says she doesn't resent me for essentially taking her crush from her but I know she's awful broken up about it. It doesn't help that now-girlfriend is prone to acting affectionate toward me (and others, which probably got us into this little mess in the first place) and oftentimes it's when our friend is around and I feel horrible and insensitive to her feelings every time it happens.

    I love my now-girlfriend but I feel guilty for indirectly causing my friend's misery and I'm still stressed that she bears hatred for me because of the whole situation.

    shitsucks man.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)04:13 No.2688448
    >>2688331

    Oh,the good old days.Used to live in a college town,and this was pretty much every night.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)04:20 No.2688468
    Every time I kiss a guy, I instantly lose all interest in him. I haven't kissed much (duh) but I feel like they're doing it wrong. All of my friends go on about how great it is to make out with someone. All I can summon is mild interest while its going on. And its not as if I'm not attracted to these guys. I can be dying to get into a situation where its just us alone, but once it gets to the kissing...
    What the fuck is my deal?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)04:21 No.2688472
    >>2688468
    Maybe it's because the thrill of the chase is over. Either that or you have high expectations that aren't being met. Are they bad kissers?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)04:36 No.2688499
    >>2688472
    I think I have unrealistic expectations. Despite what impressions the internet gives, I don't know any virgins in my age group. (20 range) I haven't had a boyfriend, and didn't start pushing myself to meet, talk to, and flirt with boys until senior year. So I feel pretty behind the pack in this subject.
    I don't pretend to know anything about kissing, but out of the three guys I managed to get to first base with, all three were just awful. I just envisioned it different, I guess. More lips, less suction, less gritty tongue, less spit everywhere. Its always something that kinda squicks me. I'm at a loss as to how much of what I expect is realistic. I'm also thinking that I just need to know someone for years until I'm actually comfortable enough to start anything romantic, but I always end up seeing my guy-friends as brothers.

    I pretty much cockblock myself at every turn. :|
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)05:12 No.2688570
    bump
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)05:16 No.2688574
    >>2688444
    Fucking ask him. Unless of course you're too chicken shit and or don't want to ruin a "good" thing. That uncertainty is a killer.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)05:26 No.2688595
    >>2688574

    Yeah,I'm afraid it might fuck everything up...I'm a pussy.
    >> Mastershambler !3JjuCXJQ/. 03/13/10(Sat)05:29 No.2688599
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    >>2688315
    LOLOLOLOLOLOL
    I AGREE SO HARD WITH THIS
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)05:33 No.2688605
    >>2688595
    Just ask him "what is this, what are we" etc. And unless he's retarded or playing the part of one, you'll at least know. If it isn't what you want but still want to hang out then do that, you'll soon see if that's impossible for you or not because if it hurts to be just friends, end it. Don't try to make it something that it isn't, that's unfair to you both.
    >> Mastershambler !3JjuCXJQ/. 03/13/10(Sat)05:34 No.2688607
    >>2688595
    agree with above. Ask him. It won't change current status but then you will break that ice and awkwardness. He won't be offended and he may actually like you and things could be mutual. He may also beat around the bush and lie or indirectly says he like you. Ask and you shall have your answer.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)05:36 No.2688608
    >>2688605
    >>2688607

    I'll work on getting it done.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)05:38 No.2688612
    I find nice guys, fuck things up with them, end up with abusive ones because they'll tell me what to do and I'm so submissive that I just can't think for myself any more.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)05:48 No.2688620
    >>2688608
    I know it seems hard and a pain in the ass, I recently had to do it, but it's better than asking yourself what everything means, if he says this because he feels this way or that. I didn't get the answer I wanted, but it also wasn't a no, I'm still on a path of uncertainty, but you don't have to be. Do it because you want to be happy. I want you to be happy, little anon.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)05:58 No.2688630
    >>2688239
    >implying men care about conversation
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)06:06 No.2688635
    >>2688612
    That's pathetic. Seriously, man up.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)06:07 No.2688637
    >>2688635
    Ex boyfriend tried to kill himself because we got into a fight, another raped me. I'm scared of guys.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)06:13 No.2688641
    >>2688637
    What is it about the nice guys that you manage to fuck up?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)06:14 No.2688643
    >>2688641
    I...cheat on them or freak out and start to question whether or not I really like them because I don't /want/ to like them because I don't /want/ them to be like everyone else.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)06:16 No.2688647
    >>2688643
    So just date abusive guys? Who cares?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)06:17 No.2688649
    >>2688647
    I'm tired of being raped and having to worry if they'll be alive the next day.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)06:27 No.2688658
    >>2688643
    So you think that any guy that you're attracted to is inherently fucked up because so far no one has proven otherwise? Give the next guy a chance. You seem to be able to distinguish between asshole and not, at the usual point of freaking out give the guy a little more time, if things go south jump ship as soon as you can. If not, keep things going on a good note. But give a guy a chance.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)07:53 No.2688716
    >>2687210
    re: cleaning
    I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. My girlfriend has to be forced to clean.

    "Oh noes, forced to clean, how unfair, you should clean too!" you may say.

    When she moved in with me she stated she could not possibly pay rent/bills. I told her fine, just keep the place tidy and cook. When she moved in the place was almost immaculate. I lived alone and kept it very clean. Now it looks like a pigsty. 99% of the clothes on the floor/dishes in the sink/half finished cups of liquid hidden throughout the house (the worst offender being milk, hidden under piles of clothes and paper - I don't even drink milk).

    After two years of cleaning up after her, paying her bills, and dealing with her complaining about every little thing, I told her I couldn't live with her. She blew up, stating I shouldn't base relationships on superficial stuff like how clean the house is kept.

    I love the girl to death, but I cannot deal with how slovenly she is. My apartment smells like dirty clothes and sour milk since she's moved in, and I can't stand it.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)09:42 No.2688821
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    It's nice of you to be worried about your friend's feelings, but have a care for yourself as well. Your friend will get over it, or not; that's for them to decide, not you. Relationships, romantic and otherwise, come and go.

    If you're uncomfortable with Now-Girlfriend being affectionate when your friend is around, tell her so and explain why. You're not doing anyone any favors keeping those feelings to yourself, since it's stressing out at least two of the three people involved as long as it continues.***

    Finally, keep in mind that you haven't done anything wrong. You haven't betrayed your friend by getting involved with someone they had a crush on. Up to a point, you expect your friends to back off someone you've "called dibs on" so to speak, but if that person doesn't act on their feelings within a reasonable amount of time then all bets are off. And don't forget, Now-Girlfriend chose you. She did so because she wanted to. If your friend is indeed upset about the situation, they have no right to feel that way towards anyone but themselves. They shouldn't blame Now-Girlfriend for liking you more, and they shouldn't blame you for taking an opportunity when it was presented to you, especially since you didn't know about your friend's feelings at the time.


    ***You may want a second opinion on this point since I can't speak from personal experience in this regard; it's just what makes sense to me, but as you probably know by now "sense" doesn't always apply when there are lots of strong emotions involved.
    tl;dr, don't worry about it your friend will be fine.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:33 No.2688893
    >>2688716
    I think you need to get her to understand there's something good in it for her too if she changes her ways. Ask if she feels bad about leaving stuff around. Ask if she feels guilt. Then ask if she wouldn't be relieved and more happy, if she took care of the worst. Take those milk glasses, ask her to note how she feels if she simply runs them under the tap as soon as she finishes drinking. If it becomes clear that she can't even do this, stop buying milk. If she needs calcium, let her eat cheese. And if she can't handle even this, just dump her, she really needs a shock to the system to see that nobody can stand a total slob.
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:01 No.2689028
    Finally broke away from my boyfriend of a year and six months. We were best friends and inserpable. He was a great best friend, but a terrible boyfriend. And I have the worst temper in the world. He cheated on me a lot in the begining, and when he would get mad he would shove me. (Happened 3 times, the 3rd time I left him.)

    Almost instantly met a new guy, who is, needless to say, everything I ever wanted. He is the sweetest, most talented, hot guy I've ever dated. We are almost alike to a T.

    However he still isnt my ex. My ex fucking misses me... and I miss him.

    But we'll kill each other if together.

    The ex and I have talked together about just being best friends...and over the past week we havent had the erge to be loving. Just buddies. But he still doesnt want to hang around me and the new guy. Is it simply immpossible to have them both in my life? New guy is perfect for me. Old guy is my other half and I get panic attacks at the thought of not seeing him anymore.

    What the fuck do?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:54 No.2689180
    I cosplay because for one brief moment I'm someone else and not myself. I stopped hanging around my friends because they make me feel like shit but now I'm too reclusive to go out and make new friends. The last good relationship I had was three years ago and I can't find a woman good enough to fill the void. I barely sleep and I get really depressed have to hide it because my job requires me to be polite and happy. I greet people while they walk in while inside I just want to hide under the desk from them. I live in a shitty town in a shitty state and can't afford to move to a better place with better job prospects.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:36 No.2689467
    I try to be humble, be genuine, keep the ego down, and overall just be a normal-esque person. But deep down, I still want to act out and be a rockstar.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:30 No.2689617
    /cgl/: /adv/

    >>2689028
    If you told me this was a troll attempt I'd believe you; as it is, I'm going to assume it's not and risk falling for it.

    You can't have it both ways. The situation you described is precisely what so many guys here on 4chan come to bitch about, it gives women all over a bad name. You're either with your current bf, or with your ex.

    This is harsh, and perhaps unfair, but no guy wants to find out that his girlfriend is pining over someone else (whether you think it's "loving" or not).

    Can you be "just friends" with your ex? Can he be "just friends" with you? Not impossible but based on what I've seen I have to say no, probably not. Which means you need to make a decision about what it is you really want.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:30 No.2689623
    >>2689617
    (cont)
    People don't change. They can, sometimes, but it's very difficult and very rare; more often, the changes we see are temporary, and the illusion is enhanced by the fact that we -want- to see a change so we force ourselves to believe it. The fact is, if your ex was cheating on you, and particularly if he was abusing you, you need to stay OUT of romantic relationships with him and yes, it would probably be best to keep even platonic friendship to a bare minimum. Because if he did it before, he'll do it again.

    That having been said, I don't expect you to just ignore these feelings you're having (frankly I don't expect anything at all, you can do whatever you want I'm just some anonymous guy giving relationship advice in a cosplay forum for some reason). But understand that there is a definable psychological reason why so many women are attracted to "bad boys" even when there's a line of "nice guys" waiting to sweep them off their feet, and even when said bad boys are clearly not good partners. You're not a bad person for still having feelings for your ex, just human. However, YOU are the one who decides who you're in a relationship with, so don't put yourself in what you know is an unhealthy, and potentially dangerous situation.

    As a final word, whatever you do, when you get around to making a decision be honest about it. Don't go behind your current bf's back with your ex, and don't string your ex along.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:06 No.2689780
    Best guy friend is being hot and cold with me when he knows that I've liked him for a long time. Even spoons and cuddles with me when I was at his house with a bunch of other friends spending the day watching movies. However I'm pretty damn sure he'd be a terrible boyfriend. We'd get no where, but I just want to bang him so much. But I'm not interested in being fuck buddies or having a one night stand. Going out with him would be the best and worst thing to happen to me. Not that it would matter since college is only a little more than a year away. He's off to MIT because he's the smartest person I know and I'm doing the financially stupid thing and going to an art school.

    Ex BFF started the whole not talking to me thing last year. Fair enough, she has a giant ass bitchy streak anyway. But now she's like "OH MAH GAWWW BEST FRIEND" and I really don't want to deal with her shit. Nor do I want to be a little prick like she was to me. I'm not sinking to her level.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:50 No.2689967
    I may or may not be the exception to the rule of this girl's taste. Being not physically attractive to her worries me, I can't help but feel as though she's just stringing me along for the sake of company.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)17:01 No.2690003
    I'm sick of so many things right now.
    University where I'm surrounded by spoilt middle class kids and work that is just so mundane and irrelevant to the degree.
    I'm sick of the town I live in and the fact that its a good 40 minutes away from any of my friends.
    I'm sick of the distance between my girlfriend and I. I haven't seen her for 6 months, I miss her so damn much.
    I'm sick of my family pressuring me to live up to their expectations, I'm sick of the way my younger sisters both walk all over me and act like they're the same age or older than me.
    I'm sick of everything. I barely leave the house except for work and university and even then its an effort to get out of bed. I haven't seen my friends properly for three weeks cause I can't face putting on the happy face that they're used to seeing.



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