also if you got con photos from AOD or ohayo, welcome to contribute.

and also can use some help with tagging.... orz

HNNNG THAT YO-YO BRIDGET. Came buckets at that whole performance.

Thanks for the pictures, Shiroin. When I decide to quit being lazy, I'll upload what all I have.

Wow, great stuff as always!

She EARNED that award, wow...

Haha, oh wow! Was this a full-blown skit?

DAT BRIDGET.

You got some nice photos of my friends from the walk-on, awesome! My shitty camera couldn't catch anything decent with that lighting, and they all walked so fast. x__X

>>2541245
Nah, he just did it for a pose when he was doing his walk-on. Loved that guy.

which skit was S0ni?

>>2541252
It was a walk-on as two Persona. Eros and Callisto, I think?

what is this I don't even

>>2541264
Even in a costume totally concealing his face and body, he can't NOT look like a dude.

>>2541264
Ugh. Her Cosplay just looked so amazing. Dem reflections and dat fuzz.

>>2541260
fun. someone having fun. at a con. in cosplay. get the fuck over it.

>>2541264
Oh you posted it, deleted my post. No walk on.

And yea, still looks like a dude despite our attempts to make him into a ~*lady*~

>>2541273
u mad

>>2541264
Eros is good, Callisto could be better. Especially that mask. Not saying that I could do better (I couldn't), but I feel like maybe someone else might have deserved that honorable mention. But oh well, I didn't get too inspect everything so I guess the judges know better.

>>2541274
>no skit, just walk-on

fix'd... jeez, I should sleep.

>>2541260
Is that Lunaladyoflight?

>>2541264
Okay, NOW I recognize that outfit from the progress threads! Came out fantastic, congrats on the award you two!

>>2541273
That is not a person...
That is a potato

>>2541268

Fun fact...that costume as so hot, the extra stuffing we used for the tits had um...absorbed a lot of sweat. It looked a lot better in judging but there was no fucking way I was walking across stage with ballet boots...

>>2541277
See, this is where I'll respectfully disagree. The actual costume could be better, and that was my fault for not being able to manage my time better between my own costume, his costume and schoolwork in such a short timeframe, but that mask is nothing short of amazing. All the cracked were dremeled as opposed to simply painted on. Believe me, the mask is far more impressive than the rest of the costume.

>>2541289
Haha. I was wondering what happened to your crazy ass shoes.

Glorious persona was glorious. Avatar skit should have won something. It was hilarious.

>>2541294
The face is what catches my eye the most. The one thing that would offset me would be his lack of gloves. Didn't have time to do them or did he take them off to suffer from heat exhaustion less?

>>2541238

That costume was intense. So many little details, I couldn't stop starring at it.

I am sooooo happy this was caught. Her going to town on that gas mask... it could have been any other character in the world... I wouldn't have cared. But her tongue all over the mussel was so freakin priceless. I was almost crying I was laughing so hard.

>>2541310
Couldn't actually find it since we literally had 20 minutes to get Chris into costume for judging and in the turmoil of it all couldn't find them. Had no time to look for them..

They were so pretty too, I made them and sewed them by hand with gusset and black tips to them. Do you know how annoying it is to make different colored tips on pleather gloves? Well, its annoying.

>>2541321
Didn't know tf2 had an orange team! hurr

>>2541238
Flawless.

>>2541325
God. I would've been so pissed if that was me. Especially if you work hard on something only to lose it at the last minute.

>>2541321
Oh man. That unexpected yaoi made me laugh hard, too. That whole skit was glorious. :D

Soni you don't even PLAY Persona, get the fuck out of the fandom and go back to your Jojo shit

The part of the masq that stand out most for me is that fucking awesome Howl's Moving Castle pick up line, and saying "My pants would insta drop!" and my boyfriend facepalming. Then when that Howl cosplayer came on stage and all the ladies screamed, he just went, "That's it, I'm watching this movie."

>>2541358
I plan on making a Stand at some point in the future. Probably Stone Free.

>>2541358

Also, considering I own ALL of them...jus sayin...

Best in Show craftsmanship made by Godsavethequeen. Gorgeous.

>>2541436
I really think that dress could be better fitted and the shoulder shawl looks like cheap fake organza. Other than those two things it's a very nice costume, especially the horns/crown.

>>2541474
>>2541436
Yours for only $1500!

/r/ing photos of more of the winners

>>2541382
>Just now realizing that Anonymau5 is 4ng31 ....
well... shit... my bad man...

>>2541479
No thanks man.

>>2541482

God dammit man...lol

>>2541436
THAT was best in show?

>>2541512

>OHAYOCON

Ohayo has shit level of competition, a piece of crap like that can sweep awards no problem

>>2541512
http://gstqfashions.livejournal.com/12924.html

>>2541512
http://godsavethequeenfashi.deviantart.com/art/Queen-Beryl-6-151992039

>>2541512
Sometimes I question how many anon on here actually know what good quality costumes are...

>>2541515
>piece of crap

Are we looking at the same thing? Christ someone sounds butthurt.

>>2541515
I can guarantee that costume was amazing. I thought it was good, but nothing spectacular until the Masquerade Recap where it was explained in great detail and I saw it much closer. It really was amazing.

>>2541549
There's no competition when GSTQ is involved, the woman can sew circles around EVERYONE in the hobby.

>>2541565

Hence why all the competitors couldn't figure out why a professional was entering an amateur contest...

>>2541515
>a piece of crap

I was seriously shocked for a moment by this comment. And then I remembered what website I was on.

>>2541576
Hey, GSTQ was there to present it on her model who paid good money to say that she finally got an award even though it wasn't her award but GSTQ's. I hope they enjoy their prize, whatever that may be.

wtf is those two yugioh ones? :/

dear lord what'd they do

>>2541576
Don't professionals compete in masters? Where I am, they get auto-bumped to masters, but don't have to compete out of competition.

>>2541592
In most cons, professionals aren't allowed to compete, much less a commissioned costume. I can understand if it was actually GSTQ in that costume competing, but it wasn't, it was some Sailor Moon cosplayer who wanted a moment to shine in a costume she probably paid good money for.

The costume is gorgeous though, no doubt about that.

>>2541592

Well, from what people have told me before, pro's weren't allowed to compete in the past (something like the old head wouldn't allow it). I dunno, it's like >>2541565 said, it basically kills the fun of it all. And no, I'm not being butt hurt, but to me and a good many others, that Rachael deserved BIS, knowing she made it herself, for herself without a shop, employee's, and outsourcing pieces.

It's really nothing against staff, but more so Kathy herself...it was a dick move.

>>2541609

I have never been to a con that didn't allow people to enter that the costume is worn by someone else with the other person present. I don't see an issue with this. People enter groups all the time where one person made all the costumes.


Sage for a bunch of butthurt people who didn't win awards they didn't deserve.

>>2541609
right, but so far as i understand, GSTQ was he one winning the award...almost like using a model for your costume or if you made something for your sig. other.

not sure how i feel about GSTQ competing in general though....does she compete a lot?

>>2541576
She did enter it in Master's. She isn't part of a big business with a bunch of employees though. It just so happens making costumes is also her job. Is there something in the rules that says just because you went to school to learn the stuff you can't compete?

If there is honestly, I'd like to know because I haven't read the rules for competition.

>>2541622
Not that I know of.

>>2541622
>>2541619

See, this would be fine, if it wasn't for this thread - http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=199499&page=2

In which, I called this a week before...I give props to everyone for still going through with it knowing they couldn't win (and everyone knew).

>>2541631
sorry, that was a little late haha

>>2541631
Time to see where this goes :>!

>>2541631

The better question is, what is the glory in doing it? You beat a bunch of kids/fans who love costuming for a hobby...good job?

This is why I hate people who compete, especially for people who compete for the soul purpose of winning an award.

You guys just sound seriously butt hurt. Get the fuck over it. It's a fucking anime convention masquerade in the middle of fucking nowhere.

Get over yourselves.

>>2541652
*sole

>>2541646
That's true. I completely agree with you there. Maybe she figured other super professionals would enter Master's as well?

>>2541631
I think what made people more frustrated about it was that the playing field isn't level when amateur costume makers that normally enter the contest have to compete with someone who owns better tools and has more hours to spend on the costumes. However, I can't speak for the cosplayers that entered the contest overall obviously since I did not enter.

I think its definitely something that should be looked at in the future as to how to address it in the rules. If this year is any indication on how Ohayocon deals with critiques, I'm sure the matter would be addressed.

>>2541659
Very true. Especially when it's not her money even that she's spending to make a costume for herself. The customer wanted the best possible product and paid an incredible sum, which obviously most other individual cosplayers can't afford to spend on just themselves. She made money on it and won an award.

To be honest, I had only heard about GStQ only in passing previously and had no idea she was -that- good.

>>2541669
agreed...i had no idea she was a pro. just thought she made badass commissions.

>>2541669
Oh she is. She's very, very good. Once I heard she was competing, we were thisclose to just calling it quits, but at the last possible minute decided to go for it, knowing fully well we didn't have a chance to win poopdicks but doing it just because we did spend all of that time and tears and blood on our costumes.

Oh well, I'm happy with my award. I'm content with most of the winners. I'm still on the fence about the Beryl cosplayer entering while having her commissioners there with her to make it valid, but dems the breaks, I guess.

>>2541678
Wow. See I know a few professional cosplayers, but after looking at her site, Jesus fuck she's good.

Everyone who placed got free $20 gift certificates right? Not a bad prize.

Hope she knows you guys are talking mad shit about her.

>>2541698
What do you mean placed? As in Best In, probably.

Honorable mentions got a framed piece of paper. In our case, it was out to Somya Paz for Persona Z costumes.

Feels bad..

>>2541704
Oh noes, what's she gonna do? Shit-talk them back?
Who the fuck cares. It's just a hobby.

costume contest entrants should be required to make their own costumes. If she wanted to make a costume for the masquerade she should have been the one to wear it or at least have been in the skit.

>>2541704
yeah, basically unanimously agreeing her sewing skills are god tier is such an insult.

fuck off.

>>2541709

Not what I'm saying. If my friends were talking mad shit behind my back, I'd wanna know.

But that's pretty much all these guys do. Talk mad shit behind peoples' backs.

>>2541705
Oh, I thought they were giving you guys the certificate papers and place holders for real ones today. :/

See, that's where I would be mad too. Work super hard on a costume with no chance to win. Because then, in theory, even someone with the same level of skill, no funding (since it was a commission) and less equipment would be destined to fail. I now fully agree it wasn't fair. But at least all of the OhayoCon judges I know are really reasonable people, and something like this probably won't happen again.

she really shouldn't have been allowed to enter the contest like that

>>2541730
Wait, it was supposed to be a nicer kind of paper?

The paper wasn't even signed and they misspelled my name in a far more unique way than in the past and the paper was all bent weirdly. Still feels bad.

I'm sorry, I'm all for nice prizes, but 20 dollars for top prizes is kinda ridiculous. But that's just me cause you can only really use that to put towards a wig from cosworx since nothing is worth just 20 bucks there. Doop doop!

I see no mad shit talking. What I do see is someone who followed the rules of a contest. However, I personally have a problem with a contest that allows someone to wear a purchased costume to compete, regardless if they are present at the competition. Do you see someone bringing the child labor from China with them to a con and saying "Oh, I'm wearing it but they were the one chained to a sewing machine for 15 hours"?
No. This was a silly thing to include in a contest for hobbyists. I think if they want to have a place for professionals to compete they should have a professional (not master, professional as in you sew for a living) class where people who sew for a living can compete against others who sew for a living. I also have a problem with the fact that the most impressive parts of this costume (shoulders, headpiece, wig) were all made by some other people and not GSTQ. They are obviously integral parts of the costume and it would look silly without them but yet they were not present at the con so...what was the point?

>>2541756
The shoulder armor maker was there.

The girl had her bases covered real good. No rules against it either. OH WELL, like I said, dems the breaks.

>>2541698
$20 for any "Best of" award is shit. One con I attend gives $100 cash plus other crap for Best Masters and $300 for Bes in Show. (lower ranks get less, but no one less than $25 cash except judges' awards)

for such a big convention, Ohayo sure gives shit prizes IMO.

>>2541750
They gave people way more than $20, you just got nothing probably because you and your boyfriend are hated by everyone for being dicks

>>2541766
What about the wig stylist? She would have looked pretty stupid without that wig.

>>2541770
Um, no they didn't.

>>2541770
Wha? I'm happy with just winning a damn piece of paper, I don't really give a fuck about not winning a cosworx gift certificate as well. Besides, the handler for the Best Master Craft said her prize was 20 bucks from cosworx. I'm sure BiS got more, but still. Why you mad?

>>2541779
The people who got real awards got plenty of crap.

SHITSUX

>>2541770
>Implying I would ever wear a wig from CosWorx.

O U

...wtf?

You guys are sitting here complaining your asses off and you don't even want the prize that BiS got.

Shut the fuck up and spend more time on your costumes, them maybe you'd win better awards.

So much backpedaling int this fucking thread.

In b4 4ng says that something is 'ironic'

>>2541798

Chuumousie, is that you? Shouldn't you be sleeping now?

>>2541767
I'm used to winning nothing but a piece of paper in costume contests. But it is pretty low for a con so big.

Colossal Con is giving a free trip to Japan I hear. Now that's a real prize.

>>2541816
Indeed! And that is why Colossal is awesome and full of waterparky goodness.

>>2541816
wow, that's a great prize! wish more cons would wise up and realize that winners don't want dumb DVDs/figures/random crap from the dealer's room, but something USEFUL like cash or Joann's giftcards, etc.

>>2541835
I just looked at their site and now I really want to go!

How big is ColossalCon typically?

>>2541894
Its a relatively small con, very cozy atmosphere, WITH A FREAKING WATERPARK.

If I can cancel all the cons, I wouldn't cancel this or D*C, that's how awesome Colossal is. Also, there's a freaking zoo in the place too, and you can ride camels, and feed giraffes and laugh at the stupid looking ostriches.

>>2541894
why it's....

colossal.

>>2541901
lol

>>2541900
Nice, it would totally be worth it just for the Kalahari. We have one up here in the Dells and it's super amazing :D I'm all for cozy cons anyway.

>>2541911
You should come out for it! Believe me, I'm coming in from NY and I wouldn't miss it. Also, Cedar Point is right there as well, so you can come up early, stay at a rink-a-dink motel with some buddies, and make it a day at Cedar Point. Its starting to become tradition with group of pals at least.

>>2541921
And with that, I'm off to sleep, gotta be up in three hours.

>>2541264
JAW DROPPING.

I can't get over how amazing the bow is...

>>2541609
Chumousie (the cosplayer wearing Beryl) has always said that she enters Masquerades for fun, not for glory. She loves performing and having a good time like that - I guess that's ex-Disney for you! So I guess the award for GSTQ is just a nice added bonus, not something that Mousie will take the glory for.

Colossal Con is the weekend before the exams at my university. Oh well, there are other great Cons to go to. I think Ohayocon is getting up there soon.

>>2541619
I could be wrong but to me it kind of sounds like people are kind of butthurt about GSTQ making a profit off of that costume and winning with it. If it had just been a case of her making a costume and having someone else model it I don't think they would be bawwing so much.

Ever think that maybe it's what the client wanted?

She won a $20 giftcard. WHOOPEE FUCKING DOO. ITT: people who are shallow and just want awards under their names so they can pretend it means something and shove it in peoples' faces.

I can't take GSTQ's portfolio seriously, it's a lot of fatties ruining her work.
But oh well, good for her

>>2541260


Daaaamn, bitch looks fatter then last time I saw her.

Best in Show got free admission for next year and several $20 gift certificates, I think it was $80 or $100.

Division winners got a medal and a Cosworx gift certificates.

Professionals MUST enter in the Master Category. I'm not preventing a good cosplayers from competing, even if she gets paid for her hobby.

The BiS award went to GSTQ and Lab 604 (for props), not the model.

Soni - I'm really sorry to hear that about your award. I'll find you on cos.com and get your contact info and we'll send you a new award. Again, apologies, that's totally unacceptable.

>>2542485
this.
>>2542561
And you should prevent that sort of thing. That is exactly why you have hall cosplay. I'm sorry but it's really unfair, even in master category, to pit hobbyists against Pro's. Hence a pro VS pro would be much better.

I can't really complain about how the masq at Ohayo since I didn't go this year - But I will say that I wish Ohayo would go back to having a regular hall competition rather than the "judges handing out awards in the halls" deal they've been doing for a while now. I've never actually seen anyone with one, or any judges handing them out.

So, on that train of thought, does anyone know of any of the costumes that got hall ribbons this year?

>>2542492
If it's what the client wanted, how does the rest of your comment have any relevance?

>>2541921

Soni, i know your hearts are made of pink foam, but what did you finish them with? Glue, Resin, Paper mache? They look so smooth.

>>2542717

A lot of people don't register their Hallway Award wins, so that's why they aren't reported. We ask them to come to the desk so we can get their name and info, and people just don't. From memory, and I know this isn't all of them:

White Queen and Mad Hatter
The three "performance art" Kodamas (Spirited Away sprites)
A ghostbuster
Ashlotte (Soul Caliber IV)
a lolita, and a Catrina (don't remember the series) with a lot of beading. I'll post the list once it is in my possession.

Those are just the ones I know about because the staffers told me about it. We don't give them away like candy the way some cons do - they still go to really good costumes. Usually the wearer doesn't compete them because they are non-asian influenced and aren't allowed to compete, or they've already won an award somewhere.

>>2542717
A staffer told me I was supposed to get one. Then disappeared.
She probably didnt know what the fuck she was talking about.

>>2542759
Blue foam, but that's all 4ng's work. He carved it with a hot knife and then handsanded them all (All those hearts were done by his hand, separately). He finished it off after sanding with some gesso, and then a couple of layers of Liquitex Dark Red and then when that dried he clear coated it to give it that shine factor to them. That was the deal with all the hearts and bow.

>>2542766
You didn't address >>2542636

What makes someone a pro?

>>2542783
Making costumes for a living. If your main source of income to actually live is making costumes and you have a company, that makes you a professional.

>>2542771

You'll have to let me know if they hold up after a few months. Coated a prop of mine made out of the foam with some wood glue, then some acrylic paint and a clear coat of spray and now it's all bubbly like the foam aerated over time and air bubbles got trapped under the paint and glue.

>>2542636
>>2542780

Okay, thought I covered it but I'll clarify. I'm not going to prevent someone from competing just because they make money at their preferred hobby. GSTQ/Lab 604 didn't run away with the BiS award. Several of the other Masters Division competitors (not "professionals") gave the Beryl costume a run for its money - it just happened to be a little better. I'd say all of the Masters this year have the skills needed to sell costumes as a full time job if they chose to do so, they just don't. GSTQ does, and I'm not going to punish her for it.

>>2542796
We actually had a problem with an air bubble on one of them and needed to scrap it. I think you might have a better time covering it with some gesso instead of woodglue. But he can tell you more on that than me. But the stuff is pretty secure, except my bow had a chunk of paint ripped off cause I accidentally put the sticky side of velcro from my elbow guard on it after taking the entire thing off. Its a very easy fix, luckily.

>>2542801

What if the person competing makes costumes as part of a larger non-cosplay company, but does make their living as a costumer? Not related to the current situation, but it's something I've been wondering.

>>2541382
Do you happen to be Deadmau5 fan?

>>2542812

What gives you that idea? =P

>>2542815
Hey, Are both of you, (S0ni and you, to clarify) in school now? Also, Congrats on your Ohayo win, and engagement. Long distance is hard, but I'm glad to see others can make it work as well.

>>2542815
Heh, your name mayhaps? And damn awesome Mau5 head. *jealous*

>>2542820
Yus. I'm actually on my way to class now. Last semester in a community college, now I get to upgrade to a real school :>!!!

>>2541921
Jeez. It must be something impressive if so many people are talking about it. If I had to go I'd have to drop Anime Punch, though. Hm..

>>2542847

There is no question that you should drop AP in favor of Colossal...I mean, there's a fucking WATERPARK.

>>2542825

lol, thank you

>>2542796

What causes the air bubbles and eating away at the paint is the clear coat...generally, you're not supposed to mix paints (acrylic and enamel)...so that, on top of the fact the foam can melt because of the clear, means you have to use very thick coats of high quality acrylic. Also, when you mark your design on to the foam, don't use anything dark colored, as the clear can and will eat through some of the layers of the acrylic (not damaging, just sometime will show the dark marks if say, a sharpie was used to transfer it).

>>2542847

imo Anime Punch doesn't hold a candle to Colossalcon. you should definitely opt Colossalcon over AP!

>>2542877

So if i stuck to all acrylic paints and an acrylic clear coat that should prevent future bubbles? I guess a bunch of coats of paint could work too but if im going to put that much time into it I may as well paper mache or coat it in epoxy resin or something.

Thanks for confirming my thoughts. I assumed that since the glue was porous the spray paint ate through to the foam over time. Since all of my props on foam look flawless the day of the con but a few months later for 2nd time around they look like fricking cheese that has been stuck under a broiler.

>>2542881
The only problem would be the fact that I wouldn't have the money (Actually some hotels require you to be 21 anyways.) and asking someone to drive me to and from columbus to sandusky ohio would be a lot to ask.

>I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMPETITION MEANS HURDY HURR HURR

You people are stupid.

>>2542783
I got bumped to "professional" at Dragon*Con because I actively take commissions, which I found odd. I'm not saying I didn't belong in the category (although some of the craftsmanship there was above and beyond my entry) but the requirements to be places there was strange.

I got bumped up again in the Masquerade, from "professional" to "master" because I had won the Friday Night Costume Contest 2 days before. Requirements will vary from con to con.

>>2542955
Not really! There are plenty of room/ride shares that are done like that. Just pay your way for gas and your share of the room and a lot of people don't care.

>>2542801
I still say a Pro category for pros and masters category for non professional non could if they wanna but aren't HOBBYISTS. GSTQ is obviously not just a hobbyist but also a businesswoman. I also think it is poor coordinating on your part that you allow this and defend it. This is just my opinion tho.

Sure is a lot of wank about this years masquerade, but I suppose it is 4chan.

This was my favorite so far, I had a really great time and I felt like even though there were lots of amazing costumes, the winners really deserved it. The skits and MC's were entertaining, and waiting in line this time didn't have a concentration camp feel too it. Good job, staff. It seemed like you listened. I also had MUCH fewer incidents with security being assholes, but that's something else entirely.

>>2543084
Agreed. I fail to see how having rules against professional seamstresses would be "punishing" them.

They do it for a living. She made that costume because she was getting paid. It just doesn't seam fair to all the people that are simply doing it as a hobby. Doing a few commissions on the side is totally different than doing it as a business also. Would it be OK for Limebarb to enter then? I don't think so.

>>2542801
But it's not her chosen hobby. It's her profession.

>>2543217

Limebarb has competed.

From Limebarbs cosplay.com profile

Have you won any awards for your costumes?

Acen 2003 - best craftmanship - journyman (chobits) Anime Iowa 2003 - saturday hall contest (Peach and Rydia)
Ohayocon 2004 - best craftmanship masq (Berserkers)
Ohayocon 2004 - best of weekend, hall contest (golden sun)
Anime Iowa 2004 - best craftmanship (warriors)
Anime Iowa 2004 - friday hall contest (I-no)
Ohayocon 2005 - best advanced craftmanship (ffta) I have won a few more awards, and some of my costumes have receive awards. For example Volt'z and StripperVash's Knives and Vash have gotten 'best in shows' because of my construction and their awesome skits. Its pretty rare now-a-days that I would consider competing.

>>2543249
Yeah, she has in the past. I meant now - she hasn't in nearly 5 years.

>>2543249
anon didn't say she hadn't, just that it wouldn't be OK in their opinion

She still competed at one point while she was doing her Commission business.

Ohayocon, or any con should be inviting professionals as guests, that way they won't compete.

>>2543289
She competed because her client ASKED her to so she could wear the fucking costume and put on a show. Get the fuck over it.

>>2543313
I was referring to >>2543272 saying that much like with GSTQ, Limebarb did compete in masquerades when she was running and commission business and she wasn't always wearing her costumes.

>>2543313
After last year, I can see why - http://www.acparadise.com/ace/vid/4848/l

>>2543313
Chuumousie can't sew, so in order for her to have a chance at attention whoring glory, she commissioned the costume. GSTQ has never gone to an OH con before this or really gone to any cons to compete with the costumes she's made except this one time, which just leads me to believe that after all of her previous failed attempts at trying to win, she had to go about it this way.

Besides, who's the one getting her picture taken? Not GSTQ, but Chuumousie.

>>2543217

Under Ohayocon rules, it WOULD be okay for Limebarb to compete.

I just double checked the rules, and no where does it say "amateurs only".

We had our best showing ever. If that changes, then I would consider changing the rules. Right now, I see no reason to change them. If we start drawing a ton of "professionals", then maybe we'll add a pro division.

Different cons offer different options. If you don't like ours, you can compete somewhere that doesn't allow professionals. If we ever go that route, I'll be sure to publish the info. I'm not particularly interested in making Ohayocon a clone of every other convention.

>>2543432

Attention whoring glory? Are you fucking kidding me? ALL COSPLAYERS are in this hobby for the attention. No one can honestly say they make their costumes and go to these conventions only for "love" of their fandom. If this were truly the case, more people would be making costumes and just keeping it to themselves (no pictures, online accounts, personal websites about costuming, etc.). EVERYONE is wearing these costumes to be SEEN.

Why can't people just be civil and be happy for all the masquerade winners? Shit, man. So many sandy vaginas in this thread.

>>2543481
>>ALL COSPLAYERS are in this hobby for the attention.

I beg to differ.

>>2543384
That Sailormoon is the same as the beryl in the video. Damn she lost tons of weight, good for her! Good to know that us heavier girls can win as long as the costume is size-appropriate and well made.

>>2543522

Do not making me fucking laugh. You are the definition of everything that is wrong with this hobby when it comes to attention whoring and this thread shows that. You only compete for the attention. You don't do it because you love performance and the stage.

I have no problem with cosplayers being attention whores BECAUSE THEY ARE, don't act like you are above them.

>>2543522
Don't lie, you're a giant attention whore. Ballet boots and bondage?

Attention whore.

>>2543664

>>2543653
>>You don't do it because you love performance and the stage.

...um, this is why I don't do skits?

>>don't act like you are above them.

When did I ever imply this?

Would you like to throw some more accusations around while you're here?

>>2543670
I'm a giant attention whore too, I'm not going to even hide that fact. But to say that some cosplayers aren't attention whores is ridiculous.

If you didn't want to attention whore, you wouldn't wear a costume. :>

>>2543673
It would be odd if you didn't like attention.

Because most humans like positive attention unless you're some sort of sociopath.

>>2543673

If you aren't doing a performance, then why are you going on stage? ATTENTION AND VALIDATION.

Please, everyone from a mile away can see you act like you are above everyone else when it comes to this hobby.

>>2543678

O, I'm not going to deny I like attention, but to me, there is a fine difference between being an attention whore, and getting recognized by 1 person the entire con...I don't need it and I'll still wear the costume I'm in. I'm not a faggot who's gonna go change if people don't know what i am and aren't taking pictures...those are your attention whores you speak of.

>>2543678
Listen to this anon because this anon is a Psychology graduate student aiming for a Ph D.

And this anon also happens to be me.

>>2543690
Because Ohayocon doesn't have a hallway contest. If you want to do craftsmanship judging, you HAVE to do a walkon.

>>2543694
Okay, I'll give you this, the majority of costumes you've done are not normally recognized.

But you still like the attention. :>

>>2543709
he never said he didn't.

I don't know about y'all, but I still wear a costume of something I legitimately like and am a fan of.

I'm only bringing one outfit to Katsucon, and I sure as hell am not making it. I'm wearing it because its a character I really enjoy in a series I follow religiously every week.

I don't even care if pictures get taken of me or not, I just want the outfit mostly to have it, and then hang out with my friends and goof off.

...Don't you all want the same thing?? Who gives a shit about masquerades.

>>2543747
You, are, a, troll.

>>2543758

You care more about dressing up as characters than the source material they're from.

>>2543747
Eh~ I went to the Masq with Jelly because I wanted to see the skits and the costumes. I can't help but appreciate craftsmanship and precision. I also love a well done skit.

I will have to say that some people are being pretty TOURNYFAG about this. :U "No, NO TOP TIER COSUPPRAYERS AROUD!"

Shoulda seen the pictochat at the masq. Sandy vaginas and trolls uuuverywure.

>>2543747
This. However, even while doing that, the attention feels good. Yeah I'm cosplaying because I love making shit and the source material, but of course I love drawing out fellow fans and being recognized for the work I've done. Not so much flat out attention, but selective acknowledgment?

>>2543771
Not always, but sometimes yes. Now stop using this thread as an excuse to talk about yourself.

>>2543779

loltourneyfags

>>2543787

Or else what?? Lmao.

>>2543787
No need for apologies, it's okay. Continue, please.

I hear that's what women do.

>>2543747

I gotta agree with Masa on this one. Some people just like to have fun and cosplay from series they like/ goof around with like minded individuals.

Cosplay is not done for anyone reason, and not everyone is an attention whore. Otherwise we'd all cosplay from the three main popular series/ attention whore costumes.

>>2543794
Obviously wrong and talking out of her ass.

>>2543792

I hear women bleed for five days straight and don't die every month.

>>2543794

*any one

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>>2543800
No fucken way.

>>2543791
Or else I post that youtube link of you. You know which one.

>>2543802

Sway. They also naturally discharge down there and can stain their panties a shit-color brown.

I blame that one thread a couple of months ago, from that one disgusting whore who was selling her used panties. *gag*

>>2543806
Post it.

>>2543809
if it's brown then that means something is wrong. Men are the ones who shit streak their underwear.

>>2543806

I'm sorry, which video?? :) Why don't you link us, Zal.

>>2543818
Oh you bitch. You deleted it, didn't you?

Way to pussy out

>>2543816
Not neccessarily...sometimes menstrual blood will be a dark reddish brown color at the beginning or end of a period. It's normal.

>>2543816

Dried blood man. Panties forever ruined by a pad adjusting, and not changing the tampon soon enough. :(

>>2543816
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=is+brown+period+blood+normal

Great, now Ohayocon - Periods. THANKS A LOT MASA.

This thread just took a turn for the better.

CONTINUE, LADIES.

>>2543874
This is living proof that any thread Masa touches turns to shit.

>>2543891
Man Masa sure knows how to make a thread's quality bleed out

>>2543928
>Whywouldyoudothat.jpg

SEXY KITCHEN!

>>2543962
Now I'm gonna read that in their voice every time.. every time..

>>2543962
That skit was terrible.

>>2541220
Stop spamming and harassing www. anon
talk
.com

>>2543702

Kinda OT here, but I don't remember what your aim is and you are already here. I just got off the phone with the new ACen masq head and he was asking me about my judges. I already have my two girls (WHO ARE AWESOME AND I LUFF THEM) wanna judge again? 8D

>>2543993
I actually though it was okay, but I
m pretty lenient with the skits. Parts were annoying, but it made me lol.

>>2544188
I liked the easy button skit. Sexy kitchen seemed a little.. hm. I'm not sure. It wasn't bad but.. it was kind of confusing. (I've even watched soul eater). The duel skit was probably my favorite of all of them. There were some pretty derp ass skits, though.

>>2544197
Oh, forgot the "Is he gay?" phoenix wright musical. That was fun too.

>>2541264

>>2544036
Hahaha, I've been meaning to ask what was going on there; Yeah I would!

>>2544213
I think I remember this being taken. Couldn't see who took it though, yay being half blind!

>>2544230

Awesome. I've never had judges squared away this early. The new rules are posted on the ACen forums. Eventually I'll write out an e-mail to you and the girls, you already know them... I think.

OH MAN ACEN IS GOING TO BE SO MUCH FUN THIS YEAR. MWAHAHHA!

>>2544263
Are they going to improve registration lines this year? That's one of the main reasons I don't go to ACen anymore is the all day reg line wait.

>>2544687

I have nothing to do with registration. We had two years where reg was fantastic (When HnJ was running it), then last year was a giant clusterfuck with details I won't go into.

I'm really hoping that the reg vastly improves this year as well. ACen is the con I've been going to the longest consistently, I don't like to hear when people have a bad time, and I REALLY hate hearing about bad reg lines.

>>2544712

ACen 2009 registration was great. 20 minute wait at the max. It was 2008 that was the giant clusterfuck. 8 hour wait... at the max...

I keep mixing up 09 and 08, but I'm pretty sure last year is when we had the major computer problems.

>>2544726

Nope, it was 2008. 2009 went really well. I have friends on reg staff and I was waiting for them to kill themselves, but it ended up going really well. They got A LOT more registers running this year.

And I stand corrected, I guess the average wait time was 45 minutes. The maximum was an hour and fifteen minutes when they were really slammed.

>>2544737

Well then, hope they keep it up. I'll stick with my little Hallway contest and trolling people during the masquerade.

>>2544726
>>2544737
I went in 2006 and zipped right through registration. Then I went in 2007 and it was horrible wait-wise..over four hours and I was wearing giant boots and a skirt so I couldn't sit down.
I'd love to go back since I always see so many people and great costumes but I'd need to catch a ride..lol

>>2541223
>>2541321
Thanks for posting those guys. I know I'm kind of throwing anonymity out the window, but I actually did participate in that skit. If the OP is still around, would you mind e-mailing me anything you have? Thank you so much!

P.S. Personally, I liked the Punch skit and the Phoenix Wright Musical much, much better.

>>2541281
Yep.

>>2541622
>not sure how i feel about GSTQ competing in general though....does she compete a lot?
According to what the model told me, this was her first time.

>>2544934
>I went in 2006 and zipped right through registration.
Yep, that would be the handiwork of my team.
> Then I went in 2007 and it was horrible wait-wise
That... wasn't.

>>2543843

Fuck you.

Brown periods are not normal. Fuck you.

>>2545774
Like you'd know.

>>2545774
masa you be trollin' hardcore tonight.

brown just means it's old lining.

>>2545781

No way dude. Just admit it, you're taking a dump in your girldiapers.

>>2542801
>I'd say all of the Masters this year have the skills needed to sell costumes as a full time job if they chose to do so, they just don't. GSTQ does, and I'm not going to punish her for it.

I do have to disagree with you on this point. The problem I have with it after I thought about it is simply out of pocket cost. GStQ got paid, at her job to make that costume and was able to win an award. Other Master's spent their free-time, apart from work and school and their own money on a costume that gave GStQ's a run for it's money.

Let's say an architect is paid by a millionaire to build a house by himself, and it's fantastic in every way. Then your little-more-than-average Joe, who could probably be an architect if he wanted to, goes and spends a million dollars out of pocket building a house over the course of 10 years. If Average Joe and the Millionaire who wanted the house both run against each other in a competition, the Average Joe worked a hell of a lot harder to see his dreams realized just because he wanted to. It wasn't something he just happened to be doing already that won him an award.

That may be a little more grand in scale, but it's essentially the same thing. By these rules I could just run down to my local tailor and have him make me a costume, enter it in master's with him by my side and win over someone who spent a year toiling over their hobby.

>>2545797
skidmarks are totally in style. girls show them to each other in the locker room.

"hey, look at mine, I haven't worn a pad in 2 days!"

If there is a Pro catagory does that mean ANYONE who takes ANY kind of commission? Or someone who does it full time? I only know of less then 5 commissioners that do it full time. What if a Pro wears her own costume? Does she compete as pro?

Also does that mean they still not allowed to win best in show? Whats the point of having best in show if one category is just going to be denied being in it. I'm not a pro, but I might win in my catagory which makes me happy but if I want to be BiS and the Best in show is a pro then I just need to be better. I'm glad standards are high.

>>2545862
Not taking into account the fact that the tailor/architect/whoever also put many years into making it where they were ability-wise.

I don't really think taking pride in your work and wanting to be recognized for it is such a bad thing. Not to mention the fact that you put an award like that up on your site and it makes you look a bit better to potential buyers.

>>2546672
I'm not positive, but I think Pro is someone who makes their living, or a significant part of it doing what they do.

Where to draw the line at a cosplayer who also happens to work in a costume shop and does part time seamstress work and a full blown designer with a store or someone working in the hollywood special effects/props/costume department is hard to say tho.

I've been on both sides of this before, meaning i've worked as a seamstress in a shop before, but I've lost in Masqs. to people who have design company funding. But there's certainly an argument at some level when amateur goes beyond being amateur even if you aren't a professional.

I guess that's largely why the class divisions exists.

Just out of curiosity, how many "professionals" complete at Ohayocon (or most cons) anyways? It sounds like Cathy would have been in a competition by herself. :P

>>2546738

It is practically unheard of. She's the only pro to enter Ohayocon. Most cons state in their rules that professionals who make a living working on costumes are prohibited from entering - but many people have already stated this already, and made some great points, so no point in me re-hashing it.

>>2546738
Hence the problem and why it needs changed. No one could compete against that, and the fact she won a free pass to come back next year, I'm sure she'll be doing it again, especially when being encouraged by the cosplay head.

I think it's less about the fact a pro entered, but more about the fact someone who bought the pro's product entered.

The product in question was very well made and more the likely would have won if it was bought or not.

But there is an ethics issue here. Money was traded hands with this product and it was, to my best knowledge, the customer who asked to enter it. To enter something you have purchased into a hobby based contest knowing it would be a far better quality due to it's makers is not ethical. It's demoralizing to the cosplay community and your self.

Oddly I agree with the judges for allowing it; there are no rules that clearly disallow this from happening. But there is a level of personal ethics and judgment that did not happen with in this whole matter.

Hopefully next year there will be an amendment to the rules to fix this and other cons will take this as a warning and look closer into their own rules to side step this type of issue for the rest of 2010.

>>2546996
Agreed. There's really no blame to be found here, everybody was within rules, but there was still an ethical call on GSTQ and the Beryl's parts that could have been made better.

All in all: good show AyaBlue, here's to next year.

>>2546996
>I think it's less about the fact a pro entered, but more about the fact someone who bought the pro's product entered.

They need to get the fuck over it. There's nothing wrong with models competing. It's not like the model got the prize. I've considered having someone model a costume for me plenty of times because I'm so shy, but the pure amount of wank on here is really discouraging.

wouldn't it make sense to invite these pros as guests next year. If gstq fashion is good enough to do this for a living should she be the one judging craftsmen rather then other cosplayers who do this part time?

>>2546996
Totally agree

>>2546744


I don't really even have a problem with "pros" entering their own costumes, but it's really awkward to enter a costume that you were paid money to make.

It was obviously a beautifully done costume and I get that there were no rules against them entering, but maybe this is a good opportunity to go back and revisit the rule board. I'd be kind of sad to see masquerades turning into pros shoving models in costumes and throwing them across the stage.

>>2547040 I'd be kind of sad to see masquerades turning into pros shoving models in costumes and throwing them across the stage.

Except that's completely not what GSTQ did.

>> To enter something you have purchased into a hobby based contest knowing it would be a far better quality due to it's makers is not ethical. <<

This. So much this.

I don't think it's being butthurt for someone who makes costumes as a hobby to not want to go against people who do it for a living. They want to compete against someone at their own skill-level.

You can see the obvious division here - people who are either friends of the Beryl cosplayer or people who don't sew will mostly likely take the "it's OK for models to enter, so shut up" stance. People who make their own costumes, who do not do this for a living, but as a hobby they enjoy (and the occasional butthurt loser) will most likely be the ones who are bawwing for a professional category.

Either way, no rules were broken. GSTQ got the award, and the Beryl cosplayer got the 30 seconds of fame she paid handsomely for. That costume had to have cost a mint.

Though I have to wonder how orchestrated this was. Seeing as she was seen posting on a forum that she was going to just enter the hall contest. And then, magically, GTSQ and Lab604 show up to a convention they have never been to before.

>>2547186

I'm not saying that's what they did, but you have to admit that that's what this sets a precedent for, because there is technically nothing in the rules against THAT, either.

Which is why it needs fixed.

>>2547484
So what if next year GSTQ is the only Pro that shows up? She Automatically wins, but is disqualified from winning best in show? I think its fine to have a pro division, but no division should be eliminated from being able to be best in show, otherwise its not really best in show anymore. From my understanding of reading this tread, the pro just happen to win best in show. It would be a different story if they won best in masters, and another costume won best in show because its not fair to the other masters.

>ethical issue

SO MUCH THIS. If GSTQ had entered herself and worn her own creation I would have a lot less issue with this whole thing. But the simple fact that money changed hands makes this look very bad on the cosplayer's part....to suddenly show up on stage wearing a purchased costume in a craftsmanship contest would feel SO awkward to me. I understand she didn't win the award personally, but the whole scenario leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

This is different from putting a dress you made on a friend because you're shy and don't want to wear it yourself...

The only thing I disagree with is that all the HMs came from Masters. I think any division should be eligible for an Honorable Mention. Or if they're going to be HMs dedicated solely to one category, add two or four more freaking awards. for HM Novice and Journeyman. That way the majority of the participants that would have been close to winning their category don't feel screwed. I know you all want to keep it "elite" and shit but there is nothing wrong with having 1st and 2nd runner ups.

>>2547625
I agree with this, it feels like for as big a contest as Ohayo has, it has far too few awards. I mean, no Judge's Awards?

>>2547645

I remember a few years ago there where complaints that there where too many awards. That may be one reason why they are now choosing to have so few.

>>2547645

No, because they don't want any of their judgments to be "subjective."

>>2547625

I do believe (at least, it was posted on coscom as so) that they use a grading scale to decide the winners & other awards (there is also personal preference and discussion, but that's not really known by anyone save for the judges). What I imagine happen is they took the highest scorers from novice, journey, and master and those won their divisions...then the next highest score from all around won the HM's (as a novice did win one as well). In theory, the master entries should have some of the highest all around scores being master class.

...of course, I could be wrong, but if the judging outline was as so stated, that would explain it.

>>2547645

I disagree with this...I think Ohayo is probably the hardest con to win something at because of this, and it really fosters competition...there are no BS of "good-enough" awards.

>>2547013
>>2546996

I also agree with these posts. The staff and judges did an excellent job this year. A huge improvement over last year, and I think people will be hard pressed to disagree with any of the decisions (craft at least, I still don't know who won what in performance). The issue people are having are against GSTQ herself, not the staff or judges.

>>2547677

This was also a journey HM...so 1 novice, 1 journey, and 2 masters in total.

Attendance was over 9000 this year...

>>2547965
I heard the final figures was around 10,120. Almost an additional 2,000 people from the previous year.

>>2546681
They may be of equal talent but odds are the Architect could make it faster, in say 5 years. Either way, that's not the point, it's that even if they took the same amount of time to build, the average joe saved money over time and toiled through his free time to make it, while the Architect was in a way "sponsored" to make a house.

I have no problem with a Pro entering even the Master's division if it's their own money they spent on their own costume. It really was an ethical issue on the part of the girl who bought the costume because it put both the Judges and the commissioner in a tough spot. But if GStQ comes back next year and enters a costume she's wearing that she paid for out of pocket, then technically she's just the same as anyone else, seeing as she spent her free time and her own money on it. There could be someone who was a professional tailor entering and winning, just not in the cosplay world and as long as they were using their own resources, that would technically be fine.