**FIGURE**

Stuffing materials
- jelly water holders (check gardening departments)
- large balloons w/ water (check flower/gift shops)

Tucking
1. pull scrote back between your legs, balls pop up in there easier if they have nowhere else to go.
2. if it's just casual, then you wont need tape, sufficiently well-fitting panties work fine to hold it all in place. without tape, thongs are a no-no as your scrote will dangle out the sides.
3. taping is an optional step. i've actually not tried it until now and it doesnt seem to work without slathering your scrote in sticky tape.

Arms
- boys obviously have different arms/shoulders than girls. Go for long sleeve if you can, or maybe add some arm warmers to the costume as "custom touches"

Undergarments
- shop far from home where nobody would know you or see you again, or shop online; the general idea is that the actual items you shopped for won't show up on your CC bill so much as where you shopped and an amount (sears*****$20)
- For panties, briefs panties are going to be best for tucking and will be comfortable. Most everything else won't hold you as well.
-- Possibly spandex shorts as an alternative

Pantyhose
- if you legs are good enough, not using them may add to the illusion
- if you're not sure, use them
- if you KNOW your legs won't pass (too muscular, scars, etc), use skintone dance tights
- In terms of quality, the more you pay, the better you can expect them to be. Stay away from Leggs Everydays.
- If you want to be super careful, use cotton gloves to put them on so that you don't get snags or runs.

**MISC**

Mannerisms
- knees together/cross legs when sitting
- stand up straight with shoulders back; it'll make your shoulder span look narrower
- walk one foot in front of the other (tightrope walking)
- good posture - Start balancing that book on the head
- pay attention to how you hold your arms/hands; keep your arms close to your sides.

Voice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbaj4tIX1kw
- not all girls have super high-pitch voices (think Jessica Rabbit)
- if you REALLY think that you can't do it, just try not to talk much (act shy)

Shaving
- If you think people might see it, shave it. It'll look better, and it's just hair; it'll grow back after the con.
- Exfoliate before shaving; use hot water and a loofa/washcloth/whatever you have with soap, or some sort of exfoliating wash. This will help prevent razor burn.
- In order of best to worst, shave gel, shave foam, liquid soap, bar soap.
- The first time is gonna take a long time, so don't try to rush it.
- Try not to take more than one pass with the razor to prevent irritating the skin.
- Make sure the razor stays clean - use alcohol on a blade before you reuse it, and rinse it after every pass or so.
- wash the area after shaving
- use a moisturizer after your shower to prevent dry skin and ingrown hairs

Other
- use feminine body wash, shampoo, perfume, and paint your nails if they're gonna show
- Try to find a men's deoderant that doesn't have a smell, since that'll be better than trying to use a women's deoderant. Your bodywash/shampoo/perfume will take care of the rest.

**UNANSWERED/MORE INFO**

- Places to find Shimapan (striped panties)
- Corsets: worth it? alternatives?
- long wigs: care and management? What are some good ways to keep them under control througout the day?

Go ahead and post any pics you have of people doing it right, or pics of the character you're considering crossplaying as so that people might be able to give more specific suggestions.

Here's the three that I'm looking at. I've already started on Dawn, actually.

About corsets - definitely worth it because if worn right they are comfortable. Timelesstrends have rather inexpensive corsets and are durable and worth the money quality wise. The best in this case would be a waist-training corset which can be worn regularly under clothes.

I'll just go ahead and repost this, too, since it popped up in the last two threads.

That's it, then. Feel free to add in whatever you want, and if you're gonna bump the thread, make sure you're at least posting something relevant - at least a good pic or something.

I'll be bookmarking the thread and watching for more stuff to add to the main post.

Thanks in advance, everyone!

>>2347405
>http://www.timeless-trends.com/

fffffff $75 even for the clearance items??

Is there anything that's a little more... frugal?

>>2347408
You can get a cheap plastic boned piece of crap for 20$ on ebay. 75$ for a steel boned corset is more than cheap.

>>2347435
well yeah, but if it's only supposed to last for 2-3 weekends out of the year, do you NEED a steel boned one? What's the down side of plastic boning?

>>2347448
You can bend the boning in a few days depending on how careful you are with it. And plastic boned corsets don't do shit for waistline forming. Saying this out of experience. If you know that you won't be using it anymore - sell it.

>>2347624
speaking of corsets...btw, the mikuru in this group was doin it right!

another mikuru doin it right!

bump

>>2348856
Was that by any chance at Zenkaikon?

>>2348868
yes

>>2347624
What about cinchers? Aren't those generally cheaper with basically the same effect?

any suggestions for exercises? I've got months and I'd like to work on my legs without building up muscle bulk. (I do plan on wearing knee socks either way~)

Any suggestions for f2m crossplay? Specifically I'm wondering about reducing effeminate facial features like lips.

Re: make-up

Avoid nair for the face. It can be sensitizing or irritating. Go for threading. It's longer lasting than Nair (hair grows back in 2-5 weeks), but the results are great.It'll get rid of finer hairs, even peach fuzz, that waxing might miss, and it's cheaper and gentler on the skin.

Price does *NOT* equal quality. Who are the dumb broads on this board saying this? If you won't be using the make-up continuously after cosplay, just buy some samples from places like Fyrinnae (eyeshadows = MAC in color, but are cheaper and less toxic; samples are ~$1.75 and are good for at least 10 applications) or EG Minerals (awesome foundation in mineral powder, pressed, and cream forms.) If you like brand names, highly recommending Shu Uemura's face primer and Make-up Forever's HD microfinishing powder.

Also, would recommend shaving instead of plucking eyebrows. Didn't see the other threads, so maybe someone already gave advice on that. If not, read a tutorial on doing it right. Eyebrows make a huge difference.

>>2349146
Some matte, nude lipstick and a bit of eyeliner on the lower lashline goes a long way.

>>2349170

No, price doesn't equal quality, but that doesn't mean that all expensive stuff is crap.

Also, I seriously don't recommend shaving instead of plucking your eyebrows. Much harder to control - I've shaved off part of an eyebrow that way. Pluck, wax, or get a pro to do it.

>>2349196
THIS.
Don't shave your eyebrows. Seriously. Be a man and pluck them.

>>2349196
Do not recall saying all expensive stuff is crap? If that was so, why would I have recommended Shu Uemura and Make-Up Forever?

Shaving brows is not that hard if you take your time. It's easier than waxing them imo. If anon is worried about messing up, he could always use a brow template.

>>2349196
>>2349207
I've seen some good shaving done (lol, mom) but it grows back. And on some guys, it grows back by the end of the day.

>>2349170
You were correct about the threading bit. Except you should've included the eyebrows on the list to thread.
Works much better than plucking, last longer than shaving. Although one should go to a place that knows how to do it since it's a pain in the ass to do it on oneself.
Have a crappy about.com link.
http://hairremoval.about.com/od/threading/a/threading101.htm

>>2349207
MtF crossplay as an expression of machismo, interesting. But to echo what some have said, don't be afraid to get some help with makeup and clothing. It's a good way to avoid much fail! I've found the makeup ladies at department stores to be surprisingly helpful. So man up and be the best girl you can!

Was just wondering, what should I do to hide/prevent a boner if I'm wearing a unitard.

>>2349843

There ARE drugs to supress erections.

Or just train yourself not to react to hot/sexy stuff when you choose to.

Or get a gaff, they're incredibly helpful since it just pushes your boner round the back rather than sticking out.

Stuffing-related question!

For a cosplay I'm doing some time within the next year or two, I need huge tits. Like, I'd say maybe E or F cup, even. What could I use for inserts for those? I don't really think shoving balloons down my shirt would be the best idea..

>>2349855
>There ARE drugs to suppress erections.
what has science done...

Pre-hormone MTF trap here x3
I've been passing in college and out and about since august. You'd be suprised how far just having no facial hair, longish, decent hair/wig and shaped eyebrows will go.
Although i guess it's kinda unfair, given that i already have a load of the mannerisms...

>>2349855
argaiv?

>>2349864
If you have money to burn, they have silicone breast forms that are really nice, but they'll cost you.

>>2349146
don't use makeup?

>>2349146
One thing to do is use an eyebrow pencil to thicken your eyebrows and make them MANLYSTRONG.

>>2349898

It's necessary for penis-related operations y'know.

Would you like the stitches on your cock to rip apart when you saw a pretty girl?

>>2347404
This is a mix of ones I'm definately doing and ones Im thinking of doing, and some of these are ones I'll do only if certain conditions are met (ex. Nodoka is if there's a mahjong event at a con I'm going to, Uruza if if I can find a way to pad my hips and ass a lot under skin colored tights and have it look good, etc.)

Jbox sells shimapan in pink and lime green.

heres one done right

>>2350292

Ah Tissue Hime, he inspired me to play bass~

>>2350300
some more

bumping
Also I should have pics of my first crossplay tomorrow so I'll post em when I get em.

>>2350240
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

>>2347397
thanks for the tips i m working on a tissue hime cosplay myself.

i found a scarf here:
http://www.darksideclothing.com/acatalog/scarves.html
just gotta dye it to change the tone a bit. My sony mdr-v6's are coming soon also.

I really have to say that I'm amazed with the number of people that have shown interest in this and have pitched in some really useful information. Though I do feel like I should ask at this point:

Would you like to see this thread continue to get reduxed for a little while longer, or would a 4th thread seem like overkill?

As I said before, I've never really been to /cgl/ a whole lot before this, so I don't know what the taboos are here for continuation threads, though I have yet to see anyone actually be mad about it... There was also the suggestion of some F to M tips.

So how about it? Another round, and maybe even another thread for F to M (or maybe just adding that in as a section on this if it doesn't get a lot of feed-back; IMO it doesn't seem like there's much involved with that other than binding, but I could be entirely wrong)?

>>2351206
If somebody can find me a tutorial to make a guitar out of foam board yeah we can have another thread.

>>2351206
I personally think that there should always be a crossplay thread up. There are alot of helpful tips in here.
But thats just my opinion

>>2351206
yes another thread would be welcomed

reading crossplay threads makes me hot and sweaty

hell, these have inspired me to go out and finally buy the makeup, knee socks, and other cosplay material I've been putting off for months

>>2351252
Makes me wish I had the time/resources/creativity to look into creating an archive like easymodo does.

>>2351206
>There was also the suggestion of some F to M tips.
Best to keep them separate. Otherwise... yeah...

>>2351481
I saw a FtMtF cosplay once... she made a good drag queen.

Anyone got any tips for using makeup to hide lines of muscles? I know there are some ways of doing makeup on arms or legs to make them look more feminine.

Problem is I can pass, well I think at least. But I'm pretty muscular/toned. I want to do bridget and he's sleeveless. It's either learn the techniques with makeup or make it a kind of a joke costume. Bridget with a girly face but muscles. Not XBOXHUGE but big enough/defined enough to notice for sure.

>>2351510
I'm in the same position with Dawn >>2347404

I'm solving it with making some arm warmers to match the costume. Yeah, it's not part of the original costume, but it'll hide the problem.

For you, I suggest detached sleeves that match the costume if you don't mind altering the design of the costume some, or get a large and REALLY smooshy teddy bear that your arms would kinda sink into if you hugged it while posing for pictures.

Hey, I'm not into crossplay personally, but I did want to ask a question about mail hair removal, because I need to start getting rid of my body hair for health reasons. Is Naire good for getting rid of body hair, or am I gonna have to get to shaving everything manually? How does one reach places to shave that aren't on your face?

Any advice that you might wanna give would be lovely. Go for it, traps!

>>2351560
Nair is MEANT for body hair; normal nair tells you right on the bottle not to use it on the face or other 'sensitive" areas. There are types of nair and other hair removers for the face, and there are brands that are meant for men's thicker hair, but normal Nair will work, too.

as for shaving places other than your face, a razor is still a razor. I've been told that a women's razor is better for larger, broader surfaces like legs, while a man's razor is better for more contoured surfaces like around a chin and jawbone. It's not a huge difference, so if you're not having a seizure, you should be good for using a men's blade elsewhere than the face.

>>2351252
>>2351277
>>2351284
Well, okay then. I'll update the thread and repost it later on.

>>2351212
Well, that's kinda off topic, but I would assume it wouldn't be any differen't than any other foamboard crafting. use multiple layers if it's not gonna be thick enough for the body, and I would really consider using wood for the neck. The head could be either or, really, though foamboard would probably be easier to shape. Use a light wood, too, so that it doesn't overtax the body and break if you're gonna put a shoulder strap on it, too; balsa is cheap and easy to work with, and really lightweight.

>>2351481
yeah, it's probably best to do two seperate threads, but I don't know if there's enough interest in F to M to keep it active.

>>2349115
I'd say your best chance is to google the area you're looking to tone and excercises for it, but just keep in mind that toning is probably going to have a much faster result on you other than a woman, showing more muscle tone. I'd honestly say that if you don't NEED it, don't bother.

>>2349170
Oh god, I was hoping to hear something like this. I'll definitely be adding this to the edits of the main post. Thanks!

>>2349855
using drugs for crossplay seems like it'd be going a little far... but if it's safe, I suppose there's really no HARM in it... Where would you even get that stuff, or am I correct in assuming that it's by prescription only?

Good lord, I just got directed here from /jp/. I've been wanting to practice being a better trap for the longest time now.

Thank you.

oh dear, how'd i get here? I'm not good with computers

>>2351862
HNnn.. I know it's a trap. but... argh, to hell with it. HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG

>>2351879
Chisame is adorable.
Please treat kindly.

>>2351858
POOFY HAT!

sage for not adding anything of value.

>>2351862
If you lived anywhere near me, I would be honored to take you out on a nice date. Maybe a fancy dinner and a romantic movie. I would hold the door open for you, put my arm around you, and even give you my coat if you got cold.

Just thought I'd say that.

>>2351898
I usually don't come by here got redirected here from a thread on /jp/ I thought I'ld drop by and check it out.

>>2351900
Oh, I know. I came from that same thread actually. That's just what was on my mind at the time.

I meant it though, totally. I just think it it would be a nice way to spend an evening.

>>2351900
Giving one last bump before I turn in for the night.

>>2351879
Have another cardiac arrest.

This is a wonderfully helpful thread.

wow... getting linked from other boards. Well, I'll wait a little longer to start a new thread then, incase more people try to follow that link s they don't get 404'd.

Glad people are finding it helpful.

Yeah, I'd say doin it right. . .

Doin' it right. Mmm...

>>2352043
holy fuck, no sir, I will not crazy glue my sack. I don't care what would remove it or the fact that it would eventually wear off. No sir, I do not like it.

>2352043

Just... woah... hardcore dedication to the max.

Doing it wrong.

Wonderful thread.

Bump just for that.

bumping

>>2350947
This is the only one that one of my friends took. Also no I did not make it, I was lazy, big woop wanna fight about it?
Tear me apart.

>>2352659
A little more makeup might be your friend. Good job on the chest, though.

>>2352045
More of this, please.

>>2352701
Thanks. Ya, that was the first day of the con so I still was iffy about how to apply makeup properly. I got alot of compliments on saturday though, so I think I got the hang of it.

>>2352705
seconding the makeup suggestion

>>2352045
FFFFFFF

>>2352704
My favorite trap <3 He's such a sweetie, too.

>>2352045
At first I thought he had breasts, but then I realized those are pecs D:

sage for not contributing to thread

>>2352775
Bump cause it is an awesome thread

>>2352715
And he's prettier than most girls, including myself.

>>2352715
He an evil Canadian D:<

>>2352806
Don't 'chu be a hater!

>>2352715
Aw, I love him.

>>2352806
His Canadian rants are hilarious.

>>2352045
When he would frequent the cgl tiny chat, I honestly thought he was Miyu. I was like, "Whoa wtf is Miyu doing here and why is she being so quiet?"

He's beautiful even without the makeup.

>>2353170
He is ;_;.

bump.
I <3 good traps

Not letting this thread die.

>>2353869
I'm always copy/pasting all new info to a notebook file and updating the original post, so even if this thread 404'd before I removed it for an update, all the ingo is still saved.

In fact, I'll probably be posting a new thread later tonight or tomorrow morning

>-- Smooth Away DOES NOT WORK.

Works just fine for me. I think if you use it on stubble, it doesn't work. I use it on my arms because arm hair is my pet peeve, but I always let it grow in more before I Smooth Away. Makes the skin super soft, too.

Smooth Away gave myself and everyone I know a horrible rash and ingrown hairs.

>>2354218
from what I read on several sites, the responses were all ranging from "simply doesn't work" to "leaves skin more sensitive than shaving". Also a lot of complaints about rashes and razor burn.

I dunno, I guess I could give it a shot, but I also found some epil-stop at the dollar store, and I feel like being stupid... Worst it can do is give me a horrible chemical burn, right?

ITT, girls encouraging guys to make fools out of themselves.

Brolita doing it right <3

>>2354275
In reality, they'd make fools of themselves if they weren't ITT, since this is a bunch of helpful material.

Troll on, though.

>>2354275
And one Anon who wishes he had the guts to look like a fool.

I went here just to look at cosplayers because I am bored and am trans but haven't found much advice for some things, this thread is awesome, thanks

>>2347397 lmao ewww fuglyyyy

how about hair straightening for people that already have long hair but it's curly and you don't want that, not nescarily if it will work or not, but tips, maybe type of straighteners are the best and how to not mess it up... not sure if I will get any help from here but worth a try

>>2354400
I use a chii straightener, and it's expensive but I think it's worth every penny. It gets waaayyy hot though, I've occasionally burnt myself straightening my hair. Shit stings.
As for tips, go in layers, and in those layers go in sections. It'll go by faster and easier in smaller pieces, and makes it a little more organized.
Even though straightening kills your hair like woah. I've got split ends like crazy.

>>2354417
Serious? FFFFF

I've been using hair straighteners to get my hair sharp and straight. Didn't know it did massive amounts of damage

>>2354275

If anything this thread would help guys make less of a fool of themselves. And a lot of the guys in here look alright.

>>2352045
Who is this?

>>2354649
digitalred

>>2354544
Well I think a lot of it has to do with how much heat you're using and how long you keep it on the hair. Plus, aren't there products that are meant for protecting hair while you straighten it?

>>2352045
Moar

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wow, um... thanks for bumping my thread, spambots.

I'll be updating the thread later today.

>>2355043
they're really showing no remorse this morning