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    993 KB Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)20:42 No.2321305  
    hello anons, and every web user out there reading this. i come to you to warn of a dire situation regarding our internets. for the past few years a secret copyright treaty has been hammered out behind closed doors at the international level, it is known as ACTA, or the "Anti Copyright Trade Agreement". and although older versions of its proposals would only offend the pirate community, there have been newer provisions of this bill that have been leaked to the public. to sum it up this treaty, if signed, would ruin and end the free web as we know it.

    -now there is a bogus 3 strikes and your out policy being proposed. so if yu get accused, not convicted, but mearly accused three times by anybody of copyright infringement. you and everyone on your ip will be banned from web access for life. this would make everybody the bad guy as everything from downloading movies all the way down to even putting clips from a song in your wedding anniversery on youtube could and would be considered "copyright infringement"

    -this treaty will superceede the laws of all governments, and force ISP's globally to be forced at their own liabilty to police the web and enforce copyright takedowns of any material that is questionable. and they will be held liable to regulate all the user generated content uploaded to sites like rapidshare, myspace, youtube, etc etc....even the chans! and logically we know that the isp's wont be able to fully monitor the mountains of data uploaded daily to these sites. so they'll simpley block them from their customers, to save their own necks, and this treaty might even cause those sites to be blocked period regardless.

    -also, there are provisions in this for them to give police around the globe, powers to be able to search your electronic devices without warrent or your permission. and if they happen to find copyrighted content on them, they may take your device away and send you a fine for copyrighted material!
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)20:42 No.2321307
    here are a few links you should see,

    first off, the news to inform you all

    http://boingboing.net/2009/11/03/secret-copyright-tre.html

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/11/policy-laundering/

    http://blogs.siliconvalley.com/gmsv/2009/11/draft-of-secret-copyright-treaty-should-give-you-chills.
    html
    and our forum is

    http://z6.invisionfree.com/to_ACTA

    and our chat room HQ is

    t i n y c h a t .com / l i b e r t y 4 a l l


    plz spread or videos make them viral for the cause!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDcRIosJRY4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XoFGApjhFE
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)20:43 No.2321311
    a petition for the hell of it

    http://www.petitiononline.com/stopatca/


    and finally we have support on the social networking sites

    http://www.myspace.com/
    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=220546039744
    https://twitter.com/fightacta

    and an operation for anon was started

    http://insurgen.info/wiki/Internet_Crusade
    dont put this off anon, our internet depends on it. and before you assume this is spam or some tinfoil hat bullshit or maybe im overreacting a little. read the news i posted for you above and tell me if im overreacting...get on this anon!!!!


    TLDR: web is under attack, join us and fight to save the web.....
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)20:45 No.2321324
    bump for the internetz
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)20:51 No.2321352
    heed to warning people! the web is under attack!!!!
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)20:53 No.2321360
    Yeah lets get this going
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)21:02 No.2321408
    Get on the chatroom people
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)21:03 No.2321415
    >>2321305
    Thank you for posting this!! This is VERY important! Our freedoms are constantly being chipped away at daily, lets make sure we stop this crap!!
    >> Sagey McSagerson !/qkCK4m8kE 11/11/09(Wed)21:12 No.2321436
    I know this thread is not cosplay related, but frankly its infinitely more important. Please keep this thread alive for people to see and sign the petition.
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)21:19 No.2321472
    http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?stopatca

    it only takes 2 seconds and it only takes a small amount of effort
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)21:20 No.2321476
    >>2321436
    And if we can have threads about dead pets, we can have this one.
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)21:27 No.2321502
    As much as I want to take your issue seriously, next time get a publicist that can actually type properly.

    It always blows my mind when people try to make a long, serious point while never touching their shift key, and using "your".
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)21:32 No.2321525
    >>2321502
    STFU and stop ACTA
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)21:33 No.2321534
    >>2321502
    Jesus tap-dancing Christ, even if you're upset with grammar/spelling issues, you can at least bump an important thread.
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)21:39 No.2321557
    ITT: morons who think that an online petition will influence the government
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)21:54 No.2321594
    bump
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)22:11 No.2321624
    >>2321557
    YOU'RE a dumb ass. There's not just a petition in this topic. There are several suggestions on where you can put your two cents in to the people that can actually stop this, NOT just a online petition.
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)23:00 No.2321699
    >>2321624
    you HONESTLY think that this exists, whoever would be "enforcing" this would be overstepping their authority by leaps and bounds, not to mention it being next to impossible to enforce with banning the entire internet. on second thought... i know this guy in Nigeria who needs some help he's a prince and everything.
    >> Anonymous 11/11/09(Wed)23:54 No.2321803
    Thank you for posting this, I was trying to think of how to start an ACTA thread and which board to do it on.

    ACTA does exist. You can find information about it on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement) or the Electronic Frontier Foundation (http://www.eff.org/issues/acta) or American government websites (http://www.ustr.gov/about-us/press-office/press-releases/2009/june/ambassador-ron-kirk-announces-pl
    an-move-forward-negot) There are lots of others but I figured you'd want the most trusted ones.

    The way ACTA subverts due process of law is diabolically ingenious. Right now if you violate copyright law your ISP (internet service provider) can't be sued, you have to be sued directly. Under ACTA if you get three accusations of violating copyright law and your ISP cancels your Internet service they still can't be sued, this is called "safe harbor". If they DON'T cancel your Internet access then they can be sued, even if the accusations are illegal. If they decided to fight for one of their thousands of customers in court, they have to pay all their own legal fees until the trial is over. If they loose they still pay their own legal fees but now they have to pay the amount set by the judge as well as all the legal fees of the winning side. Even if the ISP knows they're going to win they'll still be out astronomical amounts of money until the trial, which could take years, is over. It's easier and cheaper just to cancel your Internet.

    You'll notice that the government isn't involved in enforcing the law, the ISP is. The ISP isn't a legal system, it doesn't have a Constitution and ISPs have no requirement for due process of law. This is only one way ACTA takes your rights away, violates the founding principals of every democracy on Earth and gets away with it.
    >> pohki !TSx.MrVPTU 11/12/09(Thu)00:10 No.2321849
    >>2321305
    You didn't even get the NAME of the agreement right. "Anti Copyright?" How could that have even made sense to you as you typed it?
    >> Anonymous 11/12/09(Thu)02:05 No.2322281
    I had heard of this before, and it's really bad. I don't think the internet, in it's current incarnation, was thought out to become what they want to turn it into. While i'm all for security and legality, there's a line you have to draw between enforcing the law and trampling freedom.
    >> Anonymous 11/12/09(Thu)02:29 No.2322371
    So, if I'm to understand this correctly, if there are three complaints made against, say Universal Music Group, they will lose any internet connectivity they may enjoy?

    If you think this is a real threat, you're an idiot. No country is going to turn legal ANYTHING over to a punch of crybaby record companies who demand they enforce unenforceable laws. Even if they DID, there's a LOT more of us than there are them and their power is centralized. This would turn against the groups that lobbied for it so hard their necks would snap.

    This is just another "whaaa, vista = palladium and secured computing will be bill gates watching me pee"
    >> Anonymous 11/12/09(Thu)02:53 No.2322448
    >>2322371
    Protip: Universal Music Group has a hell of a lot more money than you and I and can pay for legal fees to have their ISP unblock them.
    >> Anonymous 11/12/09(Thu)02:53 No.2322450
    >>2322371
    too bad they're talking about it on US government websites. dipshit. i don't buy into government conspiracy theories. this is legit.
    >> Anonymous 11/12/09(Thu)03:00 No.2322469
    was this posted in /g/? It needs to be posted there.
    >> Anonymous 11/12/09(Thu)03:28 No.2322569
    >>2322448
    Yes. They can pay legal fees. Every three complaints.
    >> Anonymous 11/12/09(Thu)03:30 No.2322575
    >>2322450
    [Citation Needed]
    >> Anonymous 11/12/09(Thu)03:31 No.2322579
    >>2322575
    read the thread
    >>2322569
    There are such things as arbitration and mediation, and considering they'll probably have a direct agent with their ISP they won't have to ever deal with it anyways.
    >> Anonymous 11/12/09(Thu)03:34 No.2322587
    Yes, I'm sure that a policy that would essentially kill YouTube, facebook, twitter, myspace, and any other user-generated site is going to get REAL far.

    If this actually got far enough legally, you would see an outright war between the traditional media companies and the internet media companies. If anything, it would wipe the RIAA/MPAA off the face of the earth.
    >> Anonymous 11/12/09(Thu)03:35 No.2322591
    >>2322450
    Bolgs, petitions, youtube videos, and /i/'s wiki are not "US government websites"
    >> Anonymous 11/12/09(Thu)03:40 No.2322599
    >>2322591
    >http://www.ustr.gov/about-us/press-office/press-releases/2009/june/ambassador-ron-kirk-announces
    -pl
    an-move-forward-negot
    >http://www.ustr.gov
    >ustr.gov
    >.GOV
    >> Anonymous 11/12/09(Thu)03:43 No.2322606
    >>2322591
    >Bolgs
    I agree. Bolgs are not to be trusted



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