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    409 KB Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:15 No.2242229  
    Continued from >>2239277

    Cruxcromissa/belle_bete, scammer extraordinaire.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:19 No.2242238
    Congratulations, crux, for being nasty enough to need a third thread, almost all about you!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:21 No.2242242
    I hope this guy gets sued to hell and back.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:21 No.2242243
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    This might be my new icon on lj
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:21 No.2242244
    LOL Princesaru is friendslocking furiously :D :D :D
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:25 No.2242256
    >>2242244
    lol geeee, I wonder why
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:26 No.2242259
    >>2242243
    LOL
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:27 No.2242267
    http://www.freezepage.com/1255645539ZFYUBCXUQE

    >all of the bitching, and moaning, the ungratefulness... It's driving me absolutely ape shit crazy!

    sorry that your friend's a scammer and people want their money back SARU.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:29 No.2242272
    >>2242265
    Good, but it's a little hard to read.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:31 No.2242277
    Since I'm browsing while he f-locks... irony on princessaru's journal about him saying "KARMA'S A BITCH AIN'T IT?" 'cause some guy who used to pick on him tried to kill himself.

    Yeahhh.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:31 No.2242281
    >>2242267
    Is he actually stupid?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:33 No.2242292
    >>2242285
    If you could make it flash or something that would be even better, but yeah, I can read it fine now.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:35 No.2242303
    >>2242277
    I dislike bullying. But, uh, I can't really blaming someone for picking on that guy. He's nasty. Sometimes? Sometimes people are mean to you for a reason.
    I honestly feel that someone who tries to commit suicide is more worthy of sympathy than that... person is.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:36 No.2242307
    >>2242277
    so saru should get what's coming to him 10x seeing as he's picked on a shit ton of people in what was his public journal AND in public AND at the baby store.

    /cgl/ got you running scared saru! what a pussy!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:37 No.2242309
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    >>2242292
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:38 No.2242316
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    >>2242265
    deleting the hard to read one
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:39 No.2242318
    >>2242309
    That's amazing.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:40 No.2242323
    >>2242307
    I hope someone has caps of the nastiest entries.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:40 No.2242326
    I'm sure he'll show up at a lolita event. Someone needs to confront his ass.

    I hope someone does call his mom.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:42 No.2242330
    >>2242326
    Someone HAS to call his mom.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:42 No.2242332
    >>2242318
    too bad I don't have the balls to really use it lol
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:43 No.2242337
    >>2242330
    I want someone's mom to call his mom.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:44 No.2242340
    >>2242337
    That would truly be the best. Someones mom, DO THIS.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:44 No.2242343
    >>2242340
    My friend's mom is great for making people feel like shit when they do things wrong. I'm kind of tempted, but neither of us got scammed.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:45 No.2242347
    >>2242343
    Help someone that did get scammed!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:47 No.2242353
    >>2242347
    Haha, maybe I will... I'd have to sit down and try to explain to her what happened so she could properly tell his mom though.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:49 No.2242361
    >>2242337
    I should get my mom to call her. Lol'z would be had. My mom is just one of those ladies who don't take shit.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:49 No.2242363
    You know. This is what makes no sense to me. Why the fuck would you even TRY to scam people/shit on people if your personal information is so easily accessible? Especially when people on the places you try to scam others, know you in real life.


    Fuck, man. I called this girl who was acting like she was going to scam me/other people's parents and got my shit because of it.

    You fucking moronic scammer lolis are some of the dumbest.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:50 No.2242369
    >>2242363
    Because hes so ~`popular`~ that he can get away with it...

    also why is he popular? he looks like shit so I dont get it.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:51 No.2242374
    >>2242361
    Do it. Few things are as embarrassing as mom finding out you just did something very bad.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:51 No.2242376
    >>2242363
    Because they think they can get away with it for some strange reason? I really don't known why he thinks he can get away with it when people know him... then again that might be why - people were/are? still willing to whiteknight him.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:52 No.2242379
    >>2242369
    He's a ~guuy~
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:53 No.2242384
    >>2242369
    I'd still call his parents, despite his popularity. Money is not something you fuck with someone about.

    Seriously. People kill each other over it, what makes him think he's not going to get the same treatment?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:55 No.2242402
    >>2242379
    Oh I forgot EGL's obsession with men/girls dressed like men. Even the lesbians act bat shit when a guy posts.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:57 No.2242405
    >>2242402
    Well, when most of them can't get a fucking guy because they wear this shit? Makes sense. Only contact they'll receive from men.

    Luckily, some of us can still get guys.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)18:57 No.2242406
    >>2242402
    I don't.. D: It confuses me. It's like everyone is extremely starved from attention from men?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)19:00 No.2242421
    >>2242402
    I have a guy friend that is pretty. If I drug/bribe him and dress him up in my clothes and then post pictures, will I get attention for knowing him? D:
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)19:01 No.2242426
    Has anyone got a screencap of the list?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)19:04 No.2242434
    >>2242426
    The list of people he said he was going to refund/give skirts to in his journal, that is.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)19:05 No.2242441
    >>2242434
    I took caps before he deleted, I'll see if I can get it.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)19:12 No.2242467
    >>2242441
    Thank you. I'm fucking inches away from getting my fucking claws into idealia.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)19:21 No.2242489
    >>2242467
    ugh, it's not going so well. But plushifiedbunny posted some c&p in here: http://community.livejournal.com/egl_comm_sales/7633697.html so there's some information, at least. I'll keep looking.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)19:25 No.2242503
    I had hoped that the egl post would get a bit more lively when all the Americans came home. I wonder if his white knights will show up.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)19:35 No.2242548
    >>2242503
    I wouldn't even know what to say, if I was one of the people that had been scammed. This shit's ridiculous.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)19:41 No.2242565
    >>2242548
    Ikr? It's crazy, it'll go down in egl history.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)19:41 No.2242568
    princesssaru...is a guy.

    wat. WAT.

    (came in late and just realized this)
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)19:47 No.2242586
    >>2242568
    I think it's supposed to be prince saru rather than princess aru.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)19:48 No.2242587
    Don't Crux and his gf go up to the Baby store like once a week at least? Someone should try to spot him.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)19:53 No.2242605
    >>2242568
    I though it was princess aru, first, too! and not prince saru. Something about him makes me wanna punch him in the face D: I feel like I should feel bad, but I don't think I do and I wonder why..
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)19:55 No.2242609
    >>2242605
    This.

    I don't like how he carries himself in pictures. he looks like a fag.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)19:55 No.2242614
    >>2242609
    Well, isn't he one?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:02 No.2242638
    >>2242609
    Don't say that. You're insulting the good name of fags.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:04 No.2242646
    >>2242638
    This is true. Let's not do that.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:07 No.2242655
    >>2242609
    I thought for the longest time that he and crux were a couple. does that make me a bad person?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:17 No.2242690
    So how much $$$ has he gotten away with?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:18 No.2242694
    >>2242690
    Roughly $2k I'm guessin?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:19 No.2242702
    >>2242655
    Yes, yes it does. I don't like mental images like that.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:22 No.2242711
    >>2242690
    He got away with $1600 just from the 2nd round, there was a "third round" in which he gleefully accepted people who were more than willing to give him money, as well as oddball commissions and direct sale posts of ready made stuff that weren't ready made.

    All in all I'd ballpark at $3k.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:23 No.2242715
    >>2242702
    I don't either, and I had to live with that for a long time. I have had my punishment.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:25 No.2242719
    >>2242711
    Holy shi... I wonder where that puts him on the scammer list? Is he in Top 3 yet?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:26 No.2242724
    >>2242711
    What about the first round? Weren't there people from that still waiting?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:28 No.2242730
    >>2242724
    Yeah, there's still people waiting. I think the skirts were a bit cheaper then? But it's still a lot.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:30 No.2242737
    >>2242711
    I don't get why people got in on that round. The other rounds weren't even done yet! It just... it makes no sense!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:31 No.2242740
    >>2242730
    Here's the sales post for the first round:
    http://community.livejournal.com/egl_comm_sales/4868311.html
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:33 No.2242746
    >>2242737
    I don't know why he was even allowed to make new rounds, if the first one wasn't done. It's just ridiculous.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:33 No.2242748
    >>2242740
    Honestly, the price should have been an indication that something was off, one way or another.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:34 No.2242752
    >>2242724
    FIrst round only had $50 each for deposits.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:34 No.2242754
    >>2242737
    After the first round was closed, people were still pretty desperate to own one of those skirts. He took some pretty enticing pictures of them and a lot people wanted in on it. It was also around the time AP's chandelier skirts were highly coveted. So, a chance at commissioned, and what looked like, a fantastically made piece...well, yeah. WANTWANTWANT
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:35 No.2242755
    >>2242737
    No-one knew. It wasn't like anyone from the first round turned up on the personal journal and started bitching, remember First round was in October, Second round began November. Most people were well within their 45 day paypal claim limit.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:38 No.2242761
    >>2242754
    >>2242755
    I know, but the third?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:39 No.2242767
    >>2242761
    Heck, there were people that were buying from him in like... September. Even after a lot of posts about his shitty behavior.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:39 No.2242769
    >>2242752
    Wasn't it... 55 maybe? But anyway, I think that some paid the second installment.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:41 No.2242777
    >>2242767
    That is so crazy, I don't even get it. What on earth made everyone believe that he would behave differently with them?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:42 No.2242783
    >>2242769
    first round was $75 per skirt or $50 deposit and $25 when you could pay, then he raised the price to $130
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:43 No.2242785
    >>2242755
    Actually the first round was in early January.
    I posted the sales post here >>2242740

    >>2242761
    A third round? Probably just a few hopefools who he let in after round 2 was closed off. Like people at a club who get by the bodyguard with a little more incentive. lol. Boy needs to get smacked. I wonder just how big this list of people is? We only ever saw the round 1 girls on the belle_bette list.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:44 No.2242790
    >>2242783
    Ah, I must have found a post for the second or third round, then.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:46 No.2242794
    Where are his personal army? Normally these calling him out posts are flooded with their whiteknighting. Maybe they're hiding just like he is. Coward.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:46 No.2242797
    >>2242785
    No, first round was October according to his (now deleted) journal, Second round was November to February. The sales post didn't come out until much later.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:47 No.2242802
    >>2242794
    I saw Ashlee posting in another thread so at least she's online..
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:48 No.2242808
    >>2242794
    Saru friends-locked all his entries that mentioned bitching, his GF never posts any way, Faunkegin is posting on other EGL posts but ignoring it, his mod friend is whining and claiming she's not involved.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:49 No.2242815
    >>2242785
    There was a non-posted "third round" in which he accepted a bunch of people through PM and personal journal, and it wasn't just a "few hopefuls". At least 8 people, I think, was part of this "third round".
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:50 No.2242821
    >>2242797
    Ah, my bad. lol.

    Honestly though, I think that a lot of people still had faith in him because there were some who got their items. It's stupid that he needed to be called out in order for things to get started. Now he's gone and avoiding the entire situation. Way to make yourself look like a little bitch Crux.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:52 No.2242831
    >>2242794
    Saru freaked and started f-locking things. Probably worried that people will go through with complaining about him to his manager or something.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:53 No.2242840
    >>2242831
    Didn't they only hire him because he's "pretty"?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:54 No.2242846
    >>2242831
    I hope someone has caps. And that people starts complaining. Since he likes karma so damn much.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:55 No.2242852
    >>2242840
    Pretty? That guy? Manager's got bad taste then.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:58 No.2242861
    >>2242846
    That entry (is it still up?) pissed me off. Omg, someone was mean to you in high school, that means you should be jumping for joy that they tried to kill themselves and hoping they're in pain the rest of their life. Grow up.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:58 No.2242862
    >>2242852
    Yep. I vaguely remember it being mentioned in one of those Baby opening post.
    Fuck, that flood was the worst.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)20:59 No.2242865
    >>2242862
    Heh, if that's the case, then he's easily replaced!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:02 No.2242873
    >>2242861
    Seriously. It makes the guy look like a hypocrite.

    Become the thing you despise/d. Nice.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:04 No.2242877
    >>2242861
    Seriously. If he tried to kill himself, he probably had worse problems. Ugh, who seriously think stuff like that? I mean, I was bullied for years and one of my bullies eventually snapped, tried to kill herself, and ended up in a mental hospital for... well, I never heard of her getting out, but no way in hell I'm gonna take joy in THAT. That's just rotten. Who does shit like that :/
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:04 No.2242878
    Aimee's comment made me chuckle.

    http://community.livejournal.com/egl/14354152.html?thread=305458664#t305458664
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:04 No.2242879
    >>2242873
    He is one. I'm sure if Crux gets in deep shit for this, or people start... y'know, actually treating him like the douchebag he is, he won't be so fond of "karma."
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:06 No.2242884
    >>2242878
    Me too! Oh man I want to punch him in the face. Him and his stupid friend.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:07 No.2242888
    >>2242878
    Dunno man. If you can spend 200$ to have a dress commissioned from someone who does shitty handmade shit, then you can pay the 50$+ to go punch someone in the face.

    I'd do it if I had to, and hated someone enough.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:14 No.2242906
    The lack of white knights surprises me. If their friend is so innocent, why not defend him a bit?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:15 No.2242909
    >>2242906
    Probably because they're realizing he's just as nasty as they are.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:16 No.2242911
    Just realized this, but the comments from the ban posts have been unscreened.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:16 No.2242915
    >>2242909
    And it only took thousands of scammed dollars to realise that!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:16 No.2242916
    >>2242229
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:18 No.2242922
    I wonder if the egl post will still be there when I'm awake again. It doesn't look like people are gonna start wanking it up, but.. it's too quiet, it's making me nervous.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:19 No.2242923
    my shorty bought one of these skirts,
    and if she don't go no refund,
    i'mma drive my ass down to SanFran
    with my buddies
    from Compton to fuck him up.
    no body steals from my girl!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:20 No.2242926
    >>2242922
    Me too. Where's the shitstorm? Also, where are all of the other people that participated in the orders?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:20 No.2242930
    >>2242923
    You will receive many blessings!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:22 No.2242933
    >>2242930
    Mine, as well. People scamming shit on the internets? No thanks.

    FUCK SHIT UP.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:22 No.2242934
    >>2242926
    It's weird. So many were affected, but it's so little going on... something feels wrong about this.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:22 No.2242935
    >>2242923
    When you do, could you take his money, fabric and trims and give them to the girls he's scammed? It'd be like Christmas.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:23 No.2242937
    >>2242934
    Somebody needs to get in contact with all of them :/ And it shouldn't have been a cut post on comm_sales, and it should be posted on EGL too.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:23 No.2242939
    >>2242930
    i hope his bitch ass is reading this too!
    IM COMMIN FOR YOUUUU, BOY.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:24 No.2242940
    >>2242926
    It's eerily quiet.

    I wonder...
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:24 No.2242944
    >>2242939
    come pick me up. I'll go too.

    Otherwise, I'll just head off on my own to kick some ass.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:24 No.2242946
    >>2242935
    Is it the calm before the storm? I dunno.
    It's really off putting.

    >>2242937
    I think she needs to be as proactive as the girl heading the kyodomo situation.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:25 No.2242948
    >>2242940
    It's probably because they quit after being dogpiled by his whiteknights, and being scammed. I mean that's enough to tip people over the edge of a fashion that should be fun and not full of people being greedy/bitches.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:25 No.2242949
    >>2242937
    I'm worried by that the post is gonna be knocked from the first page soon. It's already gone from comm sales. Is it just goning to pass by quietly again?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:26 No.2242952
    >>2242946
    Whoops. *who headed
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:27 No.2242955
    the post on egl http://community.livejournal.com/egl/14354304.html

    the post on the sales comm http://community.livejournal.com/egl_comm_sales/8320602.html
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:28 No.2242962
    Something is wrong here. Did the white knights really scare everyone away? Does popularity really mean this much...?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:30 No.2242970
    >>2242962
    well, when you have people like Ashlee and someone that ~works at the Baby store~ and moderators whiteknighting...
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:32 No.2242981
    >>2242970
    Yeah... this really makes me dislike them all even more than before. And people think bitchiness is ~destroying lolita~? Hah!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:33 No.2242984
    >>2242962
    Maybe everyone is just "conveniently" not home.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:34 No.2242986
    >>2242984
    Or just "conveniently" busy with other threads, like Ashlee.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:35 No.2242993
    >>2242986
    Busy with her own scam more like.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:35 No.2242995
    >>2242986
    Exactly. lol.
    This is getting eerily boring.
    You would think that after he deleted his journals, there would be more people coming out of the woodwork, completely outraged.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:38 No.2243004
    >>2242993
    Oooh yeah, I wonder what'll happen with that.. I regret ordering from Mashimaro Girl now, SO badly.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:39 No.2243007
    >>2242995
    Yeah! It's weird. Did they suddenly all get refunded or what? Not likely. ...Threats? But that doesn't make any sense either...
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:39 No.2243009
    There's only so much you can do with a guy who doesn't respond to any contact whatsoever or give out his real name.

    IC3 claims usually result in nothing, and a lot of small claims courts want $75 for a filing fee, and if you paid $75 and sue for that.. well, you're still left with $0. The people who paid with paypal balance are SOL. If you have a CC, file a chargeback. If you paid bank transfer, file a fraud claim with your bank.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:40 No.2243014
    >>2242993
    I'd like to hear exactly what these 'delays' are with her orders.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:44 No.2243029
    >>2243009
    Talia speaks has his real information, and apparently gave it to that OP. So that's one way to get it.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:44 No.2243030
    >>2243014
    I'd like to bet money that there'll be no dresses.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:45 No.2243032
    >>2243014
    They probably didn't get enough pre-orders, and therefore not enough money to get them manufactured in the first place.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:47 No.2243036
    >>2243030
    Crux part 2!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:47 No.2243038
    >>2243029
    She probably has nothing more than an address and a googled phone number.. Easily obtainable from other people who have sold to him. That's still not going to make him give anyone any money. If any of these girls were smart they would be calling paypal, their banks or CCs.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:48 No.2243039
    >>2243036
    Scammer party!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:49 No.2243041
    >>2243038
    >I never participated in any of his skirt orders, but I have done business with him in the past, and have his name, address, phone number, and the names of his parents. If anyone wants this information to give to authorities, please let me know.

    It's something, at least.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:50 No.2243045
    >>2243038
    Seems someone is giving the OP some info on CC chargebacks so at least she/he will do it. And hopefully encourage others.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:51 No.2243047
    >>2243038
    She has his moms name. SHE CAN CALL HIS MOM!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:53 No.2243053
    I hope that someone will punch him in the face if they see him walking down the street. One good punch for every person waiting on a skirt or refund.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:54 No.2243057
    >>2243053
    Well it looks like he visits btssb store often so it would be easy to just wait around there...
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:54 No.2243058
    >>2243041
    name and address from working with him. phone number and parents' names can be found by googling the given address easily. there were a couple other people saying they had his address.. it's obviously not a big secret since he's bought from quite a few people in the community.

    besides, the OP of the post can't do anything with it anyways since she's international.. it would be smarter on their part to have a native english speaker in the US organizing this stuff rather than have someone across an ocean who can't make international phone calls. there's quite a bit of stupidity surrounding this.. they need someone who knows what they're doing because right now it's just a bunch of people showing up, "i was scammed", and that's it.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:55 No.2243060
    >>2243057
    Then there should be an angry mob waiting in the shadows to jump him. How amazing would that be, to see a mob of frills chasing this dude?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:56 No.2243062
    >>2243047
    I doubt she's going to pay for international call charges from Germany to the US.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:57 No.2243066
    >>2243058
    Where's sleepingapple? She could give some good advice on getting this shit done.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)21:58 No.2243071
    >>2243062
    there's scammed girls in US too though.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:00 No.2243081
    >>2243071

    Wow, you really can't read can you? I know that. I said here >>2243058 >it would be smarter on their part to have a native english speaker in the US organizing this stuff rather than have someone across an ocean who can't make international phone calls.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:01 No.2243082
    >>2243058
    I still think it's great of her/him to do it. No one else was doing anything, at least now things are getting started. Didn't OP ask for help?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:02 No.2243088
    >>2243081
    ...That's not the comment anon answered to...
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:07 No.2243096
    If any of them were smart they'd be banding together to file a class action suit against him. Filing postal and ic3 claims is wasting time.. I'd be speaking to an attorney to get the ball rolling.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:08 No.2243097
    I will be surprised if he has the balls to show up there now, since he's probably reading these threads.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:09 No.2243102
    >>2243096
    I don't think it's about being smart. It's about having the knowledge. And they apperently don't, so go help them instead of suggesting that they are stupid.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:10 No.2243108
    >>2243097
    Isn't that why he deleted his journals moments after he was banned. What a scumbag. I wish there was something I knew to help these girls, but I know nothing about how to handle a situation like this.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:13 No.2243116
    >>2243102
    it's kind of obvious the OP of the post is clueless.. if i were her i'd be talking to the other girls to find someone with connections. but none of them are being communicative, this'll probably get buried with WHAT SIZE IS THIS BODYLINE ITEM posts.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:16 No.2243120
    >>2243116
    Yes, she's clueless. She doesn't have any experience with this. She says so herself, and she's asking for help. Some people in the post are trying to help her. Hopefully she'll be able to get in contact with more who were scammed. We don't know what's going on in PM's. And it's night where she is anyway, she can't do anything right now.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:18 No.2243125
    OP is probably sleeping.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:19 No.2243127
    >>2243125
    Yeah. She's in Germany. They have night, what are people expecting her to do, not sleep? D:
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:20 No.2243129
    Do we know what the shit is up with idealia, faunkegin and all that jazz? No one gong to call them out?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:21 No.2243130
    >>2243129
    I think someone in the thread is getting there. shiverling or something?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:22 No.2243133
    >>2243120
    it's really not helping the OP much that there are people going on about idealia and the only people to get their skirts are people he knew etc etc.. that stuff would have been better left here to not clutter up the post with things that aren't going to help get their money back.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:23 No.2243137
    >>2243133
    I know D: There wouldn't be many posts left without them though.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:24 No.2243138
    >>2243129
    Idealia is saying that she barely knows the guy.
    The other is avoiding the subject like the plague.
    Though, I don't know what Ashlee has to do with it. She knows him, but doesn't live near him. What is she going to do? Reprimand him? From what I've seen, she participates in some getoffegl things, but avoids scammer post on egl.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:27 No.2243142
    >>2243130
    She doesn't have shit though, she's just bluffing.
    >>2243133
    The problem is, nobody has dates, exact communication or caps! They're just saying "after x months blah blah blah I was in 2nd order blah... tropigalia even is deluded into thinking she was in the FIRST round when she paid in fucking January.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:29 No.2243146
    >>2243142
    Isn't this the list of the first round?
    http://community.livejournal.com/egl_comm_sales/7633697.html?thread=120586273#t120586273
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:31 No.2243149
    >>2243146
    Not necessarily. Sparkleberry I think was in 2nd round, and kyoki_kun herself said she was in 2nd round.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:36 No.2243165
    >>2243149
    Hmmm. I see.
    This is all very unsettling.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:36 No.2243166
    >>2243138
    She barely knows the guy and invited him to her house AND let him drop off the skirt in person?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)22:42 No.2243181
    >>2243166
    http://community.livejournal.com/egl/14354152.html?thread=305488872#t305488872
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)23:10 No.2243280
    HELL, LET'S BEAT THEM ALL UP.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)23:11 No.2243287
    >>2243280
    I'LL GET MY ANGELIC PRETTY KIRA KIRA KILLER VIRGIN BRASS KNUCKLES. >:3
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)23:12 No.2243288
    >>2243287
    FF YEAH. I'LL MAKE SURE I WARE WHITE.
    BEST GURO LOLI EVER, WITH LOLI BLOOD ON IT. XD
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)23:15 No.2243293
    I'm just boggled at how quiet that post is.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)23:16 No.2243297
    >>2243293
    Because the girls who got scammed pussy-ed out, and aren't speaking up because there's Asslee and mods involved.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)23:18 No.2243302
    >>2243297
    Funny how that happens.
    Props to the girls who actually posting in there about being scammed.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)23:20 No.2243305
    >>2243297
    That pisses me off so much. I don't care if idealia has nothing to do with the scams, but her and that "this is ~dogpiling~" mod should own up for acting like people were doing something wrong by speaking up about his behavior.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)23:22 No.2243309
    >>2243305
    maybe if we get pictures of them and we troll them enough on here they will?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)23:31 No.2243327
    >>2243309
    Here you go:
    http://community.livejournal.com/egl/13487226.html
    From the meet the mods post.
    Though I doubt that trolling them is going to get them to come out.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)23:34 No.2243336
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    >>2243327
    idkkkk
    i got meow tan pretty good with my trolling photoshops... she got pretty mad.. xD
    someone find me pictures 8D
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)23:40 No.2243354
    >>2243336
    I remember that. Epic.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)23:43 No.2243360
    Wow. Really. WHERE IS EVERYONE?

    Good job to shiverling.
    http://community.livejournal.com/egl/14354152.html?thread=305496296#t305496296
    She brings up a lot of stuff that I hadn't even thought about.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)23:46 No.2243365
    >>2243360
    I hope maybe people are just busy or haven't seen the post. Maybe it needs to be not entirely under a cut or something. This is ridiculous. He deletes his journal and runs off with approximately $3000, and it's gotten barely 90 comments? Something's off.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)23:49 No.2243372
    Mother fucking get some, shiverling.

    Bonus points for quoting Sherlock.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)23:50 No.2243376
    >>2243365
    Yeah. At least have the bolded text out of the cut.
    It's nice that there isn't anything unnecessary going on in there, but really...by tomorrow it's going to be buried underneath sizing questions and art posts.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/09(Thu)23:53 No.2243379
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    Oh my Idealia! What are you wearing!! =o
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)00:05 No.2243406
    >>2243379
    Is something wrong with that photo, or is the screen printing that obvious in real life?
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)00:06 No.2243409
    >>2243406
    I dunno. I enlarged it? Maybe that has something to do with it.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)00:17 No.2243436
    Idealia: http://community.livejournal.com/egl/14354152.html?thread=305498600#t305498600\

    Nessaneko:
    http://community.livejournal.com/egl/14354152.html?thread=305499112#t305499112
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)00:20 No.2243443
    >>2243379
    WTF, are those decals glued on or just really poorly Photoshopped?
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)00:22 No.2243445
    >>2243443
    standard JPEG artefacting, I'm afraid.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)00:33 No.2243460
    >>2243443
    lol it's poorly photo shopped.
    I didn't think she deserves good shop.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)00:37 No.2243467
    >>2243436
    I think it's unfair to lump idealia in with everyone else, but I also think that the comment by jolie_laide (The "dogpiling" thing) might have something to do with people feeling like they shouldn't speak up about it. I honestly don't remember any comments by idealia on the matter before this, though, so I can't judge those.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)00:38 No.2243469
    >>2243467
    by everyone else, I meant Crux.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)00:46 No.2243492
    >>2243138
    Faunkegin is friend with Crux and Saru. She was staying with Saru during the BtSSB store opening and they all hung out together. People should be bugging the hell out of Saru too because he was supposed to be involved in Crux's business.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)00:50 No.2243512
    >>2243467
    She ought to have come out and said how she felt hurt etc rather than have shiverling twist her arm into it, then. Plus, it only confirmed that she knew crux on a personal basis, knew the scam was continuing, but shut up mysteriously.
    >>2243469
    I like how you imply Crux is a one-man army.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)00:56 No.2243531
    >>2243512
    >I like how you imply Crux is a one-man army.

    What?
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)00:58 No.2243537
    Idealia edited her comment, does anyone know what she changed?
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)01:01 No.2243552
    >>2243537
    A typo. :P
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)01:06 No.2243568
    >>2243531
    Sorry rest of my shit got cut off somehow, it's funny how everyone's just stabbing at a shadow. I wouldn't be too surprised if they were laughing about "stupid bitches" because nobody realised they got scammed.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)01:11 No.2243581
    >>2243568
    Some people did, though? Or they realised that he was up to some shit and wanted refunds or answers.

    And from both people that eventually got their item or refund as well as those that didn't, he acts like customers wanting what he owes them is some huge inconvenience, and tries to make them feel bad about it.

    Like with that whole "baw, I'm not really making any money with these skirts anymore" comment in one of this long paragraphs of excuses.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)01:17 No.2243595
    >>2243581
    The saddest thing is, it looks like he officially got away with it now.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)01:18 No.2243598
    >>2243595
    He needs to get confronted in real life. Unfortunately it seems like most lolitas in that area kiss his ass.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)01:29 No.2243619
    >>2243598
    Admittedly the execution, the ego, and the butthurt was flawlessly epic. If he was on 4chan /b/ along with the cosplay half of /cgl/ would be congratulating him right now.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)01:40 No.2243633
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    ok you bitches, go back to sucking socks and STFU
    Check out my guro loli
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)01:42 No.2243635
    COCKS , Not socks but if that gets you off, thats fine too
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)01:43 No.2243638
    >>2243635
    in lolita I'm pretty sure sucking socks is more erotic than cocks.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)01:45 No.2243640
    Talk more about sucking socks, it's making me really wet.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)01:45 No.2243641
    >>2243638
    really?? I like cocks better myself.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)01:45 No.2243642
    they better be burando and well worn after a hot day
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)01:47 No.2243645
    I want a guy to deep-throat my feet while I'm wearing black over-the-knee socks from BTSSB. Oh god, oh god... *masturbates furiously*
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)01:52 No.2243655
    >>2243645
    I want a guy to drink rice wine out of my tea party shoes.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)01:56 No.2243666
    I want a guy to polish my rocking horse shoes with his tongue.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)02:01 No.2243679
    but what about socks over socks???? it'll be like ribbed for her pleasure
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)02:06 No.2243693
    >>2243679
    It'd only really work if he had a tongue-sock made of burando though. Having two layers of socks would be detriemntal to such an endeavour.
    >> GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 10/16/09(Fri)02:07 No.2243698
    I have no fucking clue what's happening. An abridged story, por favor.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)02:12 No.2243715
    >>2243698
    Read and research like everyone else did, lazy ass!
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)02:13 No.2243719
    >>2243698
    the short version: sock porn.
    the long version: some stupid shit about a seller scamming people.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)02:14 No.2243723
    Didn't somebody ask about the CaroMaro dresses on ask a lolita?
    >> GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 10/16/09(Fri)02:16 No.2243728
    >>2243715

    There's 200+ comments. That's at least 199 more iterations of "oh mai gawd becky look at her butt" than I care to bother with.
    >> GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 10/16/09(Fri)02:17 No.2243731
    >>2243719

    Yes, someone is scamming people. Since this is /cgl/, I can only make a guess that it's about someone pretending to sell costumes/wigs and never delivering. So far nobody has elaborated on exactly what the fuck the scam actually is.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)02:20 No.2243737
    >>2243723
    http://community.livejournal.com/ask_a_lolita/23354.html
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)02:21 No.2243738
    You know. OP picture explains it. ALL OF THEM ARE BROLITAS AND GAY.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)02:25 No.2243745
    there are no girls on the internet, egl is one big lemon party
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)02:37 No.2243767
    >>2243728
    There once was a boy who made a beautiful skirt for his girlfriend. He liked his work so much that he decided to share it with the rest of the lolita world. The little boys and girls of EGL were in awe and wanted to own one for themselves, so the little boy decided to make and sell them. He overwhelmed himself by taking on too many orders at once. Days, weeks and now months have gone by since that first day. Few have had any luck and there are still more waiting. The last we saw of him was this very morning and then, like magic, he suddenly vanished.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)02:38 No.2243771
    >>2243731
    Someone made an EPIC scam of manufacturing brand replica print (chandelier) dresses. he took over $2000 in deposits and full payments, then got away with it for an entire year.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)02:43 No.2243783
    >>2243767
    you should try that in a bel-air style
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)02:51 No.2243804
    >>2243783
    Now this is a story all about how
    A bunch a little girls got no money now
    &I'd like a to take a minute just sit right there
    I'll tell you how a little boy is making them pull out their big hair

    ...it's a work in progress.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)03:01 No.2243822
    >>2243804
    lmao.
    >> yoona. 10/16/09(Fri)03:58 No.2243949
    This is somewhat related and about the CM stuff:
    "Hi! Someone just now linked me to this, so I figured I'd respond!
    Sorry for all the confusion. XD

    -CaroMaro never released our Ballerina dress because our manufacturer breached our contract and refused to print the garment unless we got an unreasonable amount of orders.
    -We put our faith in the original manufacturer for several weeks, and when we realized they would not budge, we decided to no longer do business with them.
    -The only existing garments from the Ballerina print are the 2 sample pieces.
    -Refunded all customers, as well as giving a refund/coupon/what have you to all affected customers, as well as entering them in a drawing to win a refund/coupon of a higher monetary denomination, as our apology, as well as a written apology and explanation.
    -After we dropped said manufacturer, we began working with a much more reliable manufacturer.
    -The Bunny Brunch dress has NOT gone up for sale or Pre-Order yet. We're not ready, and have more colors than we previously thought, as well as skirts in the works.

    In the future, we may decide to attempt to re-release the Ballerina print with our new manufacturer.

    Sorry, again, for the confusion (and for our slowness in the new print!!)


    ~ashlee"

    So, it was a factory issue? Maybe you should have looked into the order number before you offered the dresses.

    Also, where does one find a factory to produce your designs? I know China obviously, but where and how? I got a lolita business to open up! (in b4 not burando. most if not all of brand is made in china, TRUFAX!)
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)04:19 No.2243968
    >>2243949
    I wonder which one of her friends is reading this thread, then.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)04:31 No.2243984
    I wonder if addictive_sugar knows where crux has run off to, since they seem to be on great terms.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)04:55 No.2244009
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    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)05:15 No.2244028
    >>2243968
    She likes the dramu crowd. She could be here too though?
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)07:23 No.2244100
    Wait, does he work at the SF baby store?
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)07:34 No.2244106
    >>2244100
    no, princesaru does.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)07:37 No.2244112
    someone should just go beat the guy up already
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)07:45 No.2244121
    >>2243949
    I have Meta items that says Made in Japan. Just puttin' it out there. They make their shoes there as well, all my seven pairs has the Made in Japan stamp.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)07:48 No.2244122
    (707) 664-0362
    his phone number
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)07:50 No.2244123
    >>2243142
    They are collecting the dates, though. And at least there's caps of his sales journal, where there's some information at least.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)09:11 No.2244205
    >>2243949
    Well, at least people are getting most of their money back, right?
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)11:37 No.2244398
    People sure lost interest in that thread quickly.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)11:43 No.2244409
    >>2244122
    But what we really want is his mom's number! >:]
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)12:02 No.2244433
    >>2244409
    It's true! HIS MOM!
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)13:02 No.2244542
    I would like to know why the mods are deleting comments D:
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)13:48 No.2244605
    >>2244542
    on the take
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)13:49 No.2244607
    >>2243060
    >>2243096
    these. class action suits scare the fuck out of people. with a good lawyer they might all be able to get some distress money off of him, too.
    >>2244122
    saved to cell. will be calling to ask where the skirts are.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)14:01 No.2244639
    >>2242229
    i think my friends got there shit after fucking getting dox
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)14:34 No.2244724
    Oh addictive_sugar :|
    http://community.livejournal.com/getoffegl/396407.html?thread=23775863#t23775863
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)14:54 No.2244797
    And the mod ask what's everyone's problem is with the way they have handeled this... how is this not obvious to them? They did not give him a freakin' "latent ban", he was still selling things!
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)15:38 No.2244904
    Yes the mods should have been more on top of the situation :/
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)15:52 No.2244954
    >>2244724
    Oh god, why is she whiteknighting so much and getting so involved? Especially when she is in France and he is in the US. I used to think she is pretty smart about things... until now.
    Saging because I'm not really contributing.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)16:01 No.2244991
    >>2244904
    There had been trouble for months, so at least they could have told him that he wasn't allowed to make more sales posts? :/ They say they did I think, but they didn't...
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)16:18 No.2245043
    >>2244724
    you gaiz it's not his fault he just needs to get a job and I'm sure he has EVERY intention of paying people back! he just, you know, drug his feet and whined every time people asked for refunds...
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)16:21 No.2245059
    >>2245043
    and double journal deletion right after mod post went up is entierly unrelated you know! he neever meant for this to happen! D: like that makes anything better...
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)16:26 No.2245079
    >>2245059
    He was just being emotional and deleting his journals was a knee jerk reactiionnnn. He's totally legit. I'm sure he'll be back and he'll give everyone lots of love and their money and their pretty wittle skirts.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)16:32 No.2245092
    >>2245079
    Yes, of course! And then, all the haters will regret their harsh words, and hang their heads in shame.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)16:34 No.2245102
    What was the last time he made a sales post? August?
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)16:37 No.2245109
    >>2245102
    That or September, I think.
    Oh, we're gonna need a new thread...
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)16:38 No.2245117
    >>2245079
    Exactly! I mean, it's not like he has a history of making people that want refunds or their items feel like their doing something wrong, or bad talks his buyers or a~anything like that.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)16:42 No.2245138
    >>2245117
    Or threatens to not send their things, because they have ben baad~
    >> Anonymous 10/16/09(Fri)16:46 No.2245154
    con'td >>2245152



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