Conservative. Not Republican or Democrat. I just want to see the Constitution upheld.

I don't support Obama or McCain (esp. Obama)
I liked Palin tho. I voted for Ron Paul.

>>2084826
That's not Conservative, that's American.

Democrat.

LOLbertarian.

Moderate, leaning more towards Republican. :- /

Somewhere between Dem Socialist and Communist.

OP here. I want to know your beliefs. Why are you a libral and/or conservative? I am a firm believer in constitutionalism. I believe the Constitution should be followed and we should be a Democratic Republic.

Anarchist yeahhhh.

democrat, I'm not rich and I never will be...

I hate all politicians because they lie and are dirty, underhanded schemers. So I find allying myself to any party to be dumb.

I hate politics. Its just something to bitch and argue with each other about.

I think Miyu summed it up nicely in her last facebook entry:

"I believe all forms of government are ultimately futile and doomed to be dismantled over time. I am not pro-Obama. I am not anti-Obama. I'm not conservative, I'm not liberal, I am neutral. I simply seek the truth. And the truth as far as I can tell is that government and politics don't matter much in the larger scheme of things. Like the Universe for example."

Yes. I read Miyu's facebook. -_-;; lawl

Our free speech is about to be taken from us....

>>2084898
that is so true actually. we are so obsessed over politics we forget that there are bigger and more important issues out there, like the fact that our planet is dying

I said I was Libertarian, but honestly, all I care about is as little government as possible and as much freedom as possible. The government should only be concerned about serving the people, and not the other way around.

>>2084898
She speaks truth, this one.

>>2084911 The government should only be concerned about serving the people, and not the other way around.

AMEN SIR

My view is that liberals fuck everything up. Sure gay rights, abortion those are laws that need to be passed. But liberals want to control our lives, ask any british person how fucked up universal healthcare or gun bans are.

Also; fuck politicians , I agree with that. We have given too much power to them since the birth of America.

Inb4; SHTF crazy /k/anon

I don't approve of abortion (unless it's neccesary). The weird thing is I'm okay with gay couples, but I don't approve of gay marriage. (But I think that's because I don't like the extremists)

Read: An Inconvenient Book

>>2084927
Um you're not OP. I am. And I am pro-choice thanks.

In before shitstorm.

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>>2084926
<< Everyone needs to listen to this Anon. British people know where AMERICA is headed because they are already there!

>>2084866
Never lived in a communist country most likely.

Imagine being told what you were going to be and that was your only choice.

I had a college professor who was told she would be a teacher, and became one. Then she came here and went to college to get her degrees to teach in America. She enjoys being a teacher but is more fortunate then others from her home country

>>2084926
I don't see how fucked up it is to have Universal Health Care -- must be pretty nice to not have to weigh cost vs. getting better, you know? But I guess the USA being the USA, we can't have nice things. 30-something-th in the world, that's nice.


/inb4goliveovertherethen

>>2084898
I disagree. To shape the universe or the world at that matter one take messures to control and manage it appropriately. Thats why the government was originally created:to keep people in line. And in some way each individual plays a role in society which in end plays a role in a world wide scheme. Its a shame what politics have been turned into but I think its a better alternative than ancharcy.

And to me it sounds like Miyu has no real opinion and just added fluff to make up for this fact.

>>2084935
Sorry, I was OP in another thread and I forgot to take the name out of the name field.
My b.

>>2084960
OP here. It's ok. :)

>>2084958
Miyu is right though, we concentrate to much on frivolous details and pay little attention to the bigger picture.

>>2084898
NOT EVEN JUSTICE, I WANT TO GET TRUTH.

>>2084948
Communism and Socialism. Great ideas on paper, but never pulled of right.
Like the Incredile Hulk or Batman /:

>>2084975
Exactly. The Communist Manifesto is a great piece of literature but has never been implemented properly.

>>2084954
Main thing that`s messed up about it?

YOU don`t choose when you get treated.
The government decides.

So..all these old people that can afford to be treated? They won`t be because the government says they`ve lived long enough.

Smokers and drinkers will be seen as too costly to treat because they`re doing it to their own bodies.

Not to mention the size of our population and the amount of prisoners who won`t be dying due to the current trend with the death penalty.

Taxes will raise between 10 and 15%. There`s more, you`ll have to wait longer at doctors offices (I`ve experienced this in canada) because EVERYONE who feels the slightest tickle will check in, cause hell; It`s free, RIGHT?

>>2084971
I dont think law and order is a 'frivious' detail. I think its just as an important one. Plus here in the US they make atleast some effort in some ares to perserve and bring awareness to global warming and all that. And you can EASILY care about the government and care about the planet's wellbeing. Its not nessesarily one or another choice. Like I said. Its a stupid point.

Miyu's comments remind me of Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot speech:

>>Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

pic related, the pale blue dot

>>2084971 we concentrate too much on frivolous details and pay little attention to the bigger picture.

Precisely. The government needs reform but so do all the other world governments. We need a greater truth to unify us. If we knew the way things truly functioned in the universe there would be no need for religion or science, we would have an understanding of where we fit into things. There is no logical reason for us not to have that truth... there is no logical reason why we are ignorant to such imperative information such as what happens to us when we die, and why we are born in the first place.

>>2085004
Thank you. This was the best thing I've read on /cgl/ in years.

>>2085006
>there is no logical reason why we are ignorant to such imperative information such as what happens to us when we die
I'm sorry, do you have an in with dead people, can they tell you what's going on after they cease to function?

>>2085006
I mean alot of times small steps lead to bigger steps and so on. And anon and anons everywhere lets change that kind of detail. How about instead of expecting the government or someone else to 'fix' everything. How about everyone be vocal and start trying to do it themselves.

Its this kind of attitude 'its the governement or so and so president's fault' that gets nothing done.

Watch. You're all going to bitch at each other about stuff. why "x" is better than "y".


blah blah blah blah healthcare blah blah blah blah gay rights blah blah blah blah communist blah blah blah iraq blah blah blah bush blah blah


Its the EXACT same thing as "Jessica vs Miyu" threads or "360 vs PS3" threads, its the exact same thing. At the end of the day you've argued and changed nothing. You might as well be arguing with ProudToBeBornAsAsian.

>>2085014
feels you with hope and determination, don't it?

That's not the entire thing, but it's the relevant part. He goes on for another two paragraphs about how looking at that picture should/might make people treat each other nicely since it's all we've got.

Politics is the biggest obstacle progress has ever faced. People are so hellbent on slinging mud at their opposition that it not only completely overshadows the issue, but actually causes damage.

Take the current healthcare issue in the US. On one side, you have people fabricating horror-scenarios of forced euthanasia and constant comparisons of the opposition to the Nazis. On the other side, you have well-intentioned people so eager to prove that their ideas are good, that they'll probably try to rush some half-thought out bill. Here's where it gets worse. Say it passes, the opposition will NOT go "oh, well, it passed, let's give it a chance and make the best of it." No, they'll look for every tiny flaw and make it out to be more than it is. Never mind that they had a hand in rushing it. If it fails, they'll be elated at being proven right. Tons of money will be wasted, thousands of people will still be without adequate care, the concept will be tarnished for decades even if better plans come along, and they'll just sit there going "haha, see, we knew you'd fail, dumb <lame portmanteau of political stance and insult>."

sage for non-cosplay and a rant, but damn people piss me off sometimes.

My side is the heelican

I'm running for president in the next election. All girls are to be made to wear heels starting at 13. No abortions because the only legal way to mate is by me inseminating the women. All other men will be made sterile(just don't tell them that when they vote for me okie?). Oh yeah and I'll also execute Hillary Clinton, Bill O'rilely, Jack Thompson, and Maguma.

>>2085029
You've not being paying attention to the thread as most people are already tired of x vs y and just want humans to stfu and get together instead of arguing. But that's ever going to happen, is it.

>>2085025
Ok Murk. I`ve got dibs on time travel.
I already have a theory on it and it involves combustion, which means it`s dangerous.

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>>2084978
It's impossible to make an utopia come true, sure, but I do think those ideologies are a good inspiration. The fact that they've been twisted and strumentalized by men who only longed for power has nothing to do with the original philosophies.

I'm an anarchist, but I still approve of a minimal form of government that supports negative liberty.

>>2085080
Utopia is not impossible!

>>2085096
Wasn't it -Doctor- Yana, thus making the face of Boe's last words that much more "OMG I CRAPPED MYSELF THAT'S WHAT HE MEANT"?

Ron Paul should have been our president instead of some monkey nigger.

>>2085060
The thing about time travel is that most only worry about time and not space.

I'm apathetic, My life has remained more or less the same no matter who is leading the country.

bump!

I'm a National Socialist.

Independent. Though I lean more towards conservatism I do have some democratic views.

Socialist

Libertarian. I'm for small government, but not no government.

Anarchist. Since it does not work atm, I consider myself apolitical.

Meaning that I either blank or vote for someone that matters. Like Lenine or Haruhi.

Or Pikachu.