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    85 KB Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)10:42 No.1511296  
    Anbody else have mixed feelings about going to cons? I love cosplaying, buying shit, getting pictures taken, etc. but I really don't like going to cons all that much anymore.
    I don't know if it was the underage narutards running around
    or all the drama that ensued when my friends were around

    but it's getting to the point where I don't know if I like going to these things anymore or if it's even worth it.

    Anyone else feel this way?
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)11:00 No.1511312
    Recently I have been. I got into college and since then cosplay and the anime fandom have been taking a low priority for me. College is what matters, and lately I haven't been seeing the worth in missing a few classes over a convention.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)11:01 No.1511315
    >>1511296
    I do.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)11:27 No.1511330
    >>1511312

    Same here
    Got into college and thought it would actually strengthen my love for making outfits (fashion design major), but it was the opposite seeing as how I hate my school

    I wish there was a sort of remedy for gaining my love of cons all over again...the excitement just sort of died down I guess...

    I want to get the feeling back before AX though, and have been sort of pumping myself up prior by planning costumes...

    somehow I just don't know if I feel like going (much less paying) that much for a con I have no idea I'll have fun at -_-
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)11:29 No.1511332
    yeah, I think the spark of conventions is gone. The cosplay quality has been going down hill over the years (added by the shitty American economy.
    I could have been also going to too many cons (I think I've been cosplaying for five-six years?) that it became boring.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)11:36 No.1511343
    >>1511332

    Yeah it really has...anybody that is good seems to be an elitist snob (yes I know not everyone is that way), and all the shitty ones are underage gaia/b/fags(again not everybody) who scream random things and think it's soooo funny when really it's just annoying...

    I somehow just get disappointed when I go to these things, and seriously have a better time at the con after parties getting drunk with random people who like anime.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)11:36 No.1511345
    plus it's free to party :D
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)11:41 No.1511351
    >>1511296
    >>1511312


    Agreed and agreed. Although I am about to graduate college and move away.
    When I first went to a con I was in the 8th grade (back in 2000) and I remember everybody being older than me. Also everybody was friendly and nice to talk to.
    NOW it's like the opposite. Everybody seems to be young and half retarded. I'm almost 22. I'm over all of this weaboo crap.

    So basically all I can do now is cosplay and drink or buy kidrobot and tokidoki toys in the dealers room.

    Also I find myself just standing around alot with my friends.

    sigh
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)11:47 No.1511357
    >>1511351
    Yeah, that's another thing. My first convention was in the early 2000's, and I remember everyone being so cool together and very mature and collected. You didn't have people running around with yaoi paddles and screaming "HUURTHEGAME." It also seemed like cosplay was truly just for the fun of it and not "I'M THE BEST. TAKE PICTURES OF ME ME ME."

    I also remember cosplaying from this particular series and talking to this random congoer for hours about the intricacies of it's plot and great character development. I redid that cosplay a later year and somebody else talked to me about, but it was about their favorite pairings of that character and HURFDURFYAOI.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)11:49 No.1511360
    Con experiences are different for me now than when I was in high school - and I kinda miss the fun I used to have. Everything was very innocence, and I just had fun for fun's sake.

    Now I find myself annoyed with the antics of all the younger fans, and keep telling myself I'm too old to get involved in their shenangins. I still have my old kind of fun, but I can't help but feel part of the fun is missing.

    This year I resolve to lighten up somewhat during con season. Tell myself I ain't too old to have fun, and maybe just enjoy being a kid again for a weekend.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)11:52 No.1511362
    Then I think it's time to re-evaluate what conventions you go to.

    ... then again, anime cons haven't shown growth potential, so unless your interests branch out, I guess you're screwed.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)11:57 No.1511366
    >HURFDURFYAOI
    I lold because it's true...

    Yeah I'm almost 21 and I don't ever remember being HALF as retarded as some of the kids that are let loose in these things...


    >I also remember cosplaying from this particular series and talking to this random congoer for hours about the intricacies of it's plot and great character development.

    I miss that...
    what happened to a real conversation :/
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:10 No.1511374
    >>1511366
    I think they died shortly after Naruto became a big thing.

    OH GOD. Anyone else old enough to remember cons before the Naruto boom?
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:12 No.1511375
    so basically Naruto killed the anime con experience? yeah i can agree to that. Naruto is the ultimate cancer.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:14 No.1511377
    >>1511374
    Yeah. They were filled with faggots in Inuyasha, Trigun, Gundam Wing and Chobit costumes.


    Things havent changed that much people. You've just got jaded, older and fatter.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:15 No.1511379
    >>1511377

    Fatter, no. Jaded and older, most definitely.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:16 No.1511382
    >>1511375

    4chan is the bigger cancer

    Underage faggots shouting /b/ memes

    I miss the days before 4chan
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:18 No.1511384
    I didn't start going to cons until maybe six years ago. I don't go to that many, but being in my early 20's when I started, and already mostly out of the anime fandom, I quickly decided anime cons were NOT for me. I still have fun at the sci-fi/comic/multi-genre/etc. cons, but it's a very mellow kind of fun. I mostly go to see friends and get a chance to play dress-up.

    I'm already feeling the crunch of paying all these grownup bills and saving for a house, all those necessary evils, so even the amount of conventions I like has been limited. Once we actually have a house and possibly a kid or two, we'll probably only get to go to one a year, if that. But in a way that makes me appreciate the chances I do get to go, because all the fun isn't being worn out of something when I do it every frigging month. It's like a treat, a chance to get away from the drone of everyday life.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:19 No.1511386
    >>1511374


    Yeah I remember when Inu Yasha was the big thing,and I was raging over that shit...had no clue what was in store with the years ahead -___-

    and yes Naruto is the ultimate cancer...

    ugh...
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:20 No.1511392
    >>1511382

    Touche my friend, touche
    >> /b/lackula !bQZuI.nr1c 12/30/08(Tue)12:21 No.1511393
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    >>1511374
    I came into cons right when the Naruto Boom was still on the runway,gearing up it's engines. Man,for those two years,I had a lot of fun...then 05 came around and the boom had reached it's cruising altitude. Times were still fun.For me shit started going downhill in the 07-08 years when the group I hung with started to disband thanks to drama and 4chan shit.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:28 No.1511399
    >>1511393

    I think that was the ultimate reason why I dislike going to cons so much now.

    Everyone I originally went with the first time either moved, drama, or had "other people to hang out with too"

    So it basically left me sitting there with my thumb up my ass wondering why I went in the first place.
    I think it really all comes down to who you go with, and my friends are pretty flaky...

    guess I better make new friends D:
    >> PhantomLight !foNL5ycv6E 12/30/08(Tue)12:30 No.1511401
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    >>1511366

    So then the solution is to either get Naruto to end, or kill all the children?

    I'm all for the latter personally. We could use less humans on the planet.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:34 No.1511407
    >>1511382
    wtf? "days before 4chan" why the fuck do you even post here. also, you're fucking stupid if you think Naruto is less of a cancer than this place.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:35 No.1511409
    >>1511401

    I wouldn't mind having a damn age restriction on these things actually -___-
    16 +
    Anything younger should have a guardian at ALL times

    +

    the end of Naruto


    =

    Epic?
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:36 No.1511410
    >>1511384
    IAWTC

    I also might add that once you hit a certain age, if you still feel that impetus to attend anime conventions, you have to reconstruct what it means to you to go to one. When I was 15, it used to be about "zomg, anime con yah," getting a chance to hang out with anime fans, buy merchandise, cosplay, and see (ZOMG) anime creators and voice actors. You met people and did stuff you normally never get to; it was a one of a kind thing.

    At 25, while I still enjoy crafting cosplays (cuz I love sewing), my attitude is I've "been there, done that" with the anime convention archetype . I've already seen most guests I'd want to see (that come to the US at least), I've made good friends, and I've experiened the panels I might have found interesting. It's not a novelty anymore. I go now because I want to hang out with my friends, cosplay, and just forget about "real life" for a weekend. I love planning room parties and relish the fact that I can drink more than I normally do at home because I don't have to worry about driving. Even if I didn't have the alcohol, the cameraderie of the people I go with are enough.

    Cons = anime-themed parties to me now. The kids attending today do bother me but I feel sympathetic to a poing because I understand they're transitioning and just learn to avoid them.

    I know that in time, I'll probably retire to maybe D*C or something if I want to still experience that conclave of fandom. If my friends stopped attending, however, I'm not someone who is going to go and try to make new ones just to go. It'd be an ending of it for me.

    tl/dr: Friends make or break a con after you get over the novelty.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:38 No.1511412
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    >>1511409
    >the end of Naruto

    I wish this were true, but you know that once Naruto fandom eclipses, another equally as obnoxious will take it's place. It is the nature of the world.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:40 No.1511414
    >>1511410
    >>Friends make or break a con after you get over the novelty

    Amen to that. I wouldn't go if people I didn't enjoy hanging out with and don't really get to see otherwise weren't there.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:40 No.1511416
    >>1511296
    I've been to cons since 1998 one year after a maiden con started and bloomed into a large and awesome con right now and also been to the maiden con of CNAX 1998 to current on both cons. Having been around 10yrs at cons I've seen quite a bit of stuff changed. For CNAX for instance it used to be HUGE with the side section opened for a large floor space and also more of a friendly feeling of the con. Now a days CNAX is so money grubbing for money for everything and seperating tickets and privilages for thier fans. I only go for thier masqurade which is one of the largest other then Anime North.

    Anime North still has some of the love I felt when I was there in 1998. I remmeber life before 4chan. I also remember finding out about cosplay online and finding out cosplayers ( ALisa-chan, ACP Belldandy sisters girls before they formed ACP the site) via web searching cosplay and links from there. NOw a days I find out some awesome cosplayers via 4chan asking for links then checking out the cosplayers works.

    NOw a days I see a flood of NAruto cosplayers at AN and CNAX. I am a bit older now and some of the anime feel passion fading then when I was deeply into it in 1996-2000. While I find some of the Naruto people annoying (just some being jerks to others) it is thier time to enjoy and have fun, youth, and experiences.

    My anime series has been streamlined as well. I used to watch a bunch of stuff. Now a days I tend to watch or be interested if I see a nice cosplayer cosplaying something then ask about what series they're cosplaying from then ask around on how good that series is before watching it. I don't buy much other then mangas now a days when I can or some props (rarely). Last prop I bought was a FF7 Cloud buster sword ~70lbs stainless steel and I think brass hilt/pummel. I'd take a photo of it but I don't have a SD card right now for my camera. You can't one hand that sword. Now a days at cons I only take photos of cosplayers.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:40 No.1511417
    >>1511412

    So true...but I still have high hopes D:
    I suppose that's my own downfall
    >> /b/lackula !bQZuI.nr1c 12/30/08(Tue)12:43 No.1511418
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    >>1511384
    >I'm already feeling the crunch of paying all these grownup bills
    I feel you man. For me it's taxes this upcoming year. back when I had a regular job my tax return = BALLIN!! at Katsucon. Now that I'm a private contractor,I'm gonna end up paying the government.
    >>1511410
    that's very true. One of my best friends might be retiring from cons next year. And with 08's shitty turnout I almost considered doing the same thing. But I started hanging out with a broader array of friends and as cheesy as it sounds,they helped rekindle my love/hate for cons. I.E. After parties,shenanigans, etc.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:45 No.1511421
    I hate modern anime so there are very few cons left that cater to the older stuff. I wouldn't say I was particulary old, its just that I think most new anime is crap looking with hideous story lines. I try to block it all out and go to cons just for the social element of seeing mates.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:47 No.1511424
    >>1511418
    I dare someoen to slip one of those bills to thier accountant.
    >> /b/lackula !bQZuI.nr1c 12/30/08(Tue)12:49 No.1511426
    >>1511424
    I'd put it into a Bank of America ATM to see if it reads it.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:53 No.1511430
    >>1511421
    While I do enjoy some newer anime, I agree that I liked the older story/art format. I loved when animators would amaze the crap out of you without the aid of computers. For instance, I recently went back and watched "You're Under Arrest" and just shook my head at how well animated and entertaining that series was. While not even that old, it still was better than a lot of newer stuff I've seen in the past few years.

    Also, is it just me or does no one fall over or sweatdrop anymore!? It used to be all about that...maybe it's just my imagination but those were always two of my favorite iconic anime gestures and they seem to have just disappeared!

    /sage for off-topic and oldfaggotry
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)12:56 No.1511434
    >>1511430
    Sup fellow oldfag. I like a few newer anime series myself, but they're pretty much all of the Akagi/Kaiji/One Outs persuasion. I liked the older styles of storytelling better.

    I also tend to prefer either old 80s manly manga or obscure seinen titles, with the occasional piece of oldschool shoujo.
    >> /b/lackula !bQZuI.nr1c 12/30/08(Tue)12:57 No.1511435
    >>1511430
    ....I thought I was the only one who realized that. And the occasional face slide when someone said something stupid...
    >> Hikaruhime !xymRTv2yFs 12/30/08(Tue)12:59 No.1511437
    >>1511410
    Are you me?

    This is exactly how I feel. I rarely go to panels, viewings, or events nowadays. I go to the cosplay contest, either to watch or enter, but that's pretty much it. I'll go to the rare concert if it's a band I really don't want to miss. I avoid the raves like the plague. I used to go to them when I first started going to cons, but now I just can't stand all the kids who swing their glowsticks randomly, hitting people (namely: me) in the face.

    I mostly just walk around the Artist Alley or stand around and talk to my friends throughout the convention. Talk, pose for a picture, talk, pose for a picture. That's mostly how it goes now. I still love going to cons because of seeing my friends, but if they didn't go, I wouldn't either.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:02 No.1511441
    >Also, is it just me or does no one fall over or sweatdrop anymore!?

    I've been noticing that as well! Especially in the newer dramas/comedies. Oh I miss my old anime :/
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:02 No.1511443
    >>1511434
    We are a dying breed. D: 80's anime, sci-fi in particular, rocked. I really haven't seen it's equal; current anime in that genre don't seem to be able to stir me like the old stuff does. (Probably because I'm a nostalgiafag)

    >>1511435
    Dude, I'm so glad I'm not alone on this one!
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:03 No.1511444
    >>1511418
    We got screwed out of the apartment we'd been promised where we'd pay MAXIMUM $200 a month rent to cover expenses. Now we have to pay $1250 plus heat and electric. And cable/phone/internet, car insurance, cell phones, food, gas, etc. At least, saints be praised, we have medical coverage through our jobs. Anyway after a few months of that we realized we had about $40 a month in fun money left. TADA! No more cons. THANKS A LOT, in-laws.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:03 No.1511445
    I really haven't been going to cons for a long time, just over a year, but this past summer, the love was already starting to wane, and yes, it was because ANext was hip deep in underage cancer, begging me to buy them liquer (which I refused), then puking all over sidewalks when someone else did. But then at Otakon, my friend invited me to share her Artist Alley table, and I actually spent most of the weekend down there, loving it. There's great art everywhere, all kinds of people to talk to, and you make money. It kind of rekindled my love. I guess some people just need to find their niche.
    >> /b/lackula !bQZuI.nr1c 12/30/08(Tue)13:16 No.1511454
    >>1511444
    I know what you mean.My biggest hole is my $600 a month car lease,followed by the $200 car insurance. Then cell and internet. And then like I said I'm fearing tax time.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:24 No.1511469
    >>1511445
    The underage drinking is what's killing it for me. I don't mind seeing a few drunk people stumbling around. But when I see shitfaced 13-15 year olds spewing projectile vomit in wide open public places is when I start to get really really pissed. If I may dust off an old chestnut, "they're fucking it up for everybody"
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:25 No.1511471
    Thank you, D*C.
    Thank you, Comic Con.
    Thank you, Celebration.

    May you never be overwhelmed by the taint of anime cons.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:26 No.1511476
    >>1511471
    Hurr hurr. "Taint." Hurr hurr.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:35 No.1511493
    >>1511454
    WTF? $200 a month in car insurance? The $600 in car payments is kind of nuts too. You need new insurance or possibly a different car. I pay $90 a month for TWO cars, a mid 90's oldsmobile and a 2006 toyota.

    Not trying to knock you too hard here, but finances are a give and take game. If you're shelling out big bucks for a car that you can't really afford, then maybe you should get rid of it and downsize.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:37 No.1511498
    >>1511443
    80's and early to mid 90's anime and manga is where its at. Back when the artists actually drew sheet by sheet rather than using fucking shitty computers to do it all. New anime sucks bollocks and that makes going to cons hard at time. Its absolutely pointless trying to explain why old anime is so good to the Narutards/Chiitards/One Piecetards. But whatever, I'm glad I got to experience the decent stuff!
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:38 No.1511500
    >>1511493
    What insurance do you use? I pay like $120 a month in car insurance, and I've looked all over-- it's the lowest I can find in this area.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:42 No.1511508
    Damn. I thought I was jaded when it came to cons. I can still go, and laugh, and have fun. I even, to this day, meet new and fun people.

    Who knew /cgl/ was so old and curmudgeony?
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:43 No.1511509
    >>1511508
    If we're not old and curmudgeony, we're underage cancer. Proof again that you just can't win with /cgl/.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:43 No.1511511
    >>1511454
    What the fuck? You pay 600 a month just to lease a car? You could buy a used one and pay off the loan at less than half that monthly cost.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:45 No.1511512
    >>1511471
    Ditto to this solution. I'm bypassing anime cons for sci-fi cons now. Still have some crazies, but less morons. I started going to anime cons in 2000 and they have gone from wondrous to absolute garbage. As with most things, it becomes mainstream... add people... and a good thing turns into shit.

    I don't dislike anime... I still find maybe a couple of series good enough for my attention a year. I still love making and wearing costumes. But you feel no joy for all the effort you put into a costume when the people around you at a con are all total fucking dipshit morons. Why do all that work to show it off to people you have absolutely no respect for? So yeah, non-anime cons hurrah.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:50 No.1511520
    >>1511500
    My insurance is through Farmer's, however I also have good credit and insure my home through them as well.

    I'd find a local agent and talk to them though. When I did online quotes it was always higher, but when I went in and talked to the guy he told me about all these extra discounts/etc that I qualified for and reduced the cost. Just my 2 cents.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:51 No.1511521
    >>1511509

    I guess so. I suppose I'll just have to fun my own at a con and not worry that /cgl/ probably would call me cancer.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:53 No.1511525
    >>1511509

    It's 4chan
    we all lose by default
    >> JS !!qyvWD3NZlbA 12/30/08(Tue)13:54 No.1511526
    Cons kinda have died down for me, since I am limited to only so many (AKA 3 a year) I am growing bored, I'd like to go to more, and further away, but apart from being in college, broke as hell and not enough free time I'm pretty much stuck with just those 3, even if that.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)13:54 No.1511527
    >>1511520
    Thanks for the tip. I don't know if I can even get it in my area, but it's worth looking into. Every little bit helps.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)14:04 No.1511546
    >>1511330
    Going to school for Fashion sucks. :( I didn't have time to make ANY costumes while I was in school (just a 2 year program) and when I did have time (ie summer) I was working 60-80 hour weeks saving up money for next semesters tuition.
    I still went to cons (only ever ended up missing a Friday anyway.....and a whole weekend of homework time) but always had to re-use old costumes.

    Shitsux. Fashion design is a fucking gongshow.

    I also discovered that having fun at a con really depends on who I go with. I realized a couple years in that going to a con with a certain friend of my usually leads to pretty boring times.
    So for the past few years I've been taking a different group of friends (the other one seems to have grown out of it anyway) and it's been much more fun. =3
    >> /b/lackula !bQZuI.nr1c 12/30/08(Tue)14:11 No.1511561
    >>1511511
    >>1511493
    the $200 car insurance is from living in Brooklyn,which has some of the highest rates in the country. And I don't mean lease(force of habit I get from my job).It's a finance. I'm not living out of my means with it.My last two cars were used,so I'm treating myself with this one. I pay that portion off in two weeks with enough money to put away.I'm not high maintanence so my entertainment budget doesn't rob me of anything. an occasional movie here and there.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)14:16 No.1511573
    I'm jealous of everyone who says they've been going to cons since forever and before the Naruto fad kicked in. I didn't start going until 05, and at the time I thought it was freaking amazing, but the appeal died down very quickly with me.

    I don't go to panels
    There is hardly ever anything in the dealers room that I like
    I find it is harder to make friends at cons now than it was when I first started going.

    Nowadays, I go because of cosplay and the chance to hang out with the friends I already have.
    >> /b/lackula !bQZuI.nr1c 12/30/08(Tue)14:22 No.1511579
    >>1511573
    Don't feel bad.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)14:22 No.1511580
    >>1511546

    Would you happen to be a FIDM student?
    but yeah I had NO time what so ever to make costumes, and now I'm in the last semester of my 1st year, seriously considering not doing the 2nd

    but I guess if I had a kickass costume this coming up con it would be a little nicer...

    >>1511573

    and yes it's getting extremely hard to make friends...it blows
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)14:26 No.1511588
    >>1511580
    Nah, I went to an obscure local college in Vancouver.

    >>1511573 I'm jealous of everyone who says they've been going to cons since forever and before the Naruto fad kicked in.

    If it makes you feel better, there's ALWAYS a fad. Before Naruto, it was FMA.
    And before FMA, it was Inuyasha.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)14:27 No.1511589
    >>1511580
    >>1511573
    Blame it on pretentious cliquey bastards that attend cons.The huge explosion of "negrothugs" and "brodudes" that come through because their nerdy friends tell them how easy it is to get laid.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)14:33 No.1511599
    >>1511589
    >The huge explosion of "negrothugs" and "brodudes"
    Yeah I've noticed this too. It's been like this for the past 2-3 years. Who left the gate open?
    >> /b/lackula !bQZuI.nr1c 12/30/08(Tue)14:41 No.1511609
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    >>1511599

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLhOmx-mnHY
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)14:41 No.1511612
    >>1511589

    Sup brah? Don't be hatin'. Why don't you come upstairs and we'll play some gamecube.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)14:42 No.1511613
    >>1511599
    Yeah. Seriously, what the fuck?
    >> /b/lackula !bQZuI.nr1c 12/30/08(Tue)14:46 No.1511621
    >>1511612
    Can we listen to some Dave Matthews Band, and have some Natty ice?.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)14:52 No.1511630
    >>1511445

    Yeah, I'm thinking this. A year ago, me and my friends thought of getting a table and selling our wares. We're all pretty talented (knitting, crochet, sewing, basic jewelry making, hell, one of us draws) and I liked just chilling and talking with friends when I go to cons.

    I think only getting a table would make me get really excited about cons again. Plus, you know, money.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)15:01 No.1511653
    >>1511621
    >>1511609
    lol
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)15:03 No.1511656
    Ok, you guys, I'll just keep going and having fun at conventions, keep the the dream alive, so to speak.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)15:08 No.1511663
    >>1511656
    nigger
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)15:18 No.1511673
    Sometimes I do wonder what I'd do at a convention if not hanging out with friends. Panels suck, guests are eternally recycled, raves offend all of the senses... Not to mention "gatherings." Man, I hate gatherings. Call me elitist, but do would you care to have your picture taken on crappy disposables with people who look like shit just because you're from the same series? Have ANY decent photos come out of these series gathering shots? They mostly end up as crappy group shots where you can't see any detail.
    >> baaaaw 12/30/08(Tue)15:19 No.1511676
    >>I don't know if it was the underage narutards running around

    that's the reason for me. i go to cosplay and hang out with friends, but i don't recognize any of the jailbait (and that's all it is: jailbait) that runs around the cons anymore.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)15:28 No.1511686
    >>1511374
    >>1511375
    Naruto did not ruin your con experience. Pretty pathetic to blame the fail of your Anime con experience on a fucking Anime. Hate the cosplayer, not the series.

    Anyways, now a days I go to Anime conventions just to hang out with people I know, party, and beat kids in video games.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)16:58 No.1511836
    This is why many of us have graduated on to going to the convention, secluding ourselves in the bar or at a 24-hour room party, and having fun away from the Narutards and Yaoi paddles.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)17:19 No.1511857
    >>1511686
    A series is only as good as it's fanbase. When thousands of morons are associated with a particular image (eg: Naruto headband) just watching or being around anything from the series dredges up the horrible memories and makes you hate the series itself.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)17:37 No.1511889
    >>1511857
    >>A series is only as good as it's fanbase.

    What? You do realize that's an absolutely insane statement, right?

    Fans of something can make you want to push them and the series away with a sharp stick, but the series is what it is regardless. If you don't like it, it's probably because it's not -for- you. I'm an adult woman, Naruto is written for tweens. Predictably, I hate it.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)17:38 No.1511894
    >>1511836
    yeah that "24 hour room party" produces drunken Narutards yaoi paddling everything in sight.
    And you know what else is a problem with your precious room parties? those drunken assholes who hit on anything with a vagina. And even worse, con rape. I miss the days when a girl didn't have to worry about date rape at conventions.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)17:41 No.1511902
    >>1511894
    Yeah, because there weren't skeezy drunk guys trying to pick me up in 1997. Oh wait, there were MORE of them.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)17:50 No.1511918
    I haven't been to a lot of cons and the whole nerd thing is kind of new to me. So all of the crap you guys hate (narutards, yaoi fan girls, paddles, etc.) is all very new and interesting to me.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)18:14 No.1511984
    >>1511889
    Huh, I think it's pretty much the way of the world that if you dislike the fans then that dislike will rub off on whatever they hype. The product may be what it is but if you associate bad things with it, you're not going to be objective about it.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)18:19 No.1511992
    >>1511984
    Generally, I agree. Bad fans will taint your opinion. But saying that the quality of fans DETERMINES the quality of a series or game...that's crazy talk.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)18:26 No.1512010
    There are only 2 good cons where I live, so no.
    >> Avi !puBUpFsw.I 12/30/08(Tue)18:41 No.1512051
    >>1511573
    This... kinda.

    I didn't start going to conventions until 05, and I started at Gaming Conventions. I went to my first anime convention in 07 and I feel in love with the concept of going to meet other cosplayers and talk about the craft of making costumes.

    The first time I went to a con I was 21 already so from the beginning I knew kind of what I was getting into with the large groups of underage kids at that awkward turning point in life when they are trying to be accepted, and I knew it would even worse at the anime con because, like myself, geeks are late bloomers normally.

    So like most have said I go for cosplay, talking about crafting and hanging out with people. Conventions are a way for me to get away and show off some of the 'art' I have been working on in my free time.

    I really try to not let the 'kids' get to me. I am sure one day they will.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)18:49 No.1512079
    >>1512051
    Are you from Long Island?
    >> Raptor Jesus !!GmuC8tJhrH5 12/30/08(Tue)18:52 No.1512090
    Nothing much bothers me about cons anymore. I used to be really scared about what other people were thinking about me (people taking pictures etc etc).

    But then I turned 20! I was introduced to the wonders of whiskey!

    ON NARUTARDS: As long as they get that they look just like all the other 1000 people who bought and headband, bad wig, and a black/orange robe thingy.

    Narutards are to cosplay, what vampire kids are to goths.

    ON YAIOPADDLES: If you hit me, expect to get hit back, harder and with a fist.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)18:54 No.1512094
    I came
    >> I Am Very Proud To Be Born As Asian 12/30/08(Tue)18:57 No.1512105
    >>1511296
    What Can I Do?
    You only need to do 2 things which are very simple :
    1. Stop buying anything made by american, it is very simple when you buy something just make sure to check its package to find the Made In where text. There are also several trade mark of american product suck as KFC, CFC, General Motors. Ford, Starbucks, etc. REMEMBER that every american products you bought will be the same as you have contributed to the american money that will be used on the next crimes american are going to do in the future, history have proven that american never change on hurting and killing more and more innocent peoples in the world. You can always find a substitute of each american products such as from Made In by your own country or other countries.
    2. Stop being friendly towards american to let them know you don't like what they did all this time. Being friendly with them will just makes them more thick headed, more selfish, more arrogant and more evil.

    If not now then when? When more innocent peoples killed by american? When the global warming reach the point of no return? When more of your loved characters ruined by the selfish american cosplayers or when your own country become the next target of the american tyranny?

    Act Now!!!
    >> Avi !puBUpFsw.I 12/30/08(Tue)19:04 No.1512127
    >>1512079
    No
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)19:04 No.1512131
    >>1512090
    I countered a yaoi paddle at otakon this year.The kid swung ,I turned around and grabbed it and kicked her in the knee,hard. Mind you I was wearing cleats
    >> /b/lackula !bQZuI.nr1c 12/30/08(Tue)19:06 No.1512137
    >>1512131
    >Mind you I was wearing cleats
    Why? Bravo on fighting the paddle powah but the cleats leave me a bit confused.
    >> MOOGIE !A8981mLiig 12/30/08(Tue)19:08 No.1512143
    >>1512137
    Eyeshield or Oofuri cosplayer, maybe?
    >> Raptor Jesus !!GmuC8tJhrH5 12/30/08(Tue)19:09 No.1512146
    >>1512131
    *Guilty Gear Counter Sound*
    >> Avi !puBUpFsw.I 12/30/08(Tue)19:10 No.1512147
    >>1512131
    At one point I seriously considered buying a wooden bat and wood burning "Fangirls" into it. Just cause I joke like that. I decided that doing so would probably get me into trouble somehow.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)19:10 No.1512149
    >>1511412

    Gurren Laggen is going to take its place
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)19:10 No.1512150
    >>1511296
    Nah, I went to Otakon in 07, 08 and I'm going again in 2009. Maybe it's because I've only gone to two cons, but I can't wait to go again. And I'm 22 here....sigh
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)19:13 No.1512160
    >>1512149

    Unfortunately........this may be one fandom that I need to take place in. <3Gurrenlagann
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)19:16 No.1512170
    >>1512143
    Bingo. Eyeshield. Those Under Armor cleats dug deep.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)19:34 No.1512231
    >>1511393
    >>the group I hung with started to disband thanks to drama and 4chan shit
    .
    That's happening to me, too. Actually, things have been really bothering me about one particular other in my group, but I'm hesitant to say anything about it. I'd love to finally get it off my chest and say how I feel, but I know that she wouldn't keep our business to herself. Therefore I know that if I bring it up, our whole group will disband. It bites having to be the only one to deal with these sort of feelings.

    >>1511573
    You sound exactly like me.

    Does anyone else feel like they're not interested in meeting or talking to anyone anyone other than cosplayers? If they're people that aren't dressed up and are friends of the cosplayers, that's different.

    I know this must make me sound like an elitistfag, but I've found that cosplayers with decent talent are usually among the most normal people at cons. With others it's just not as likely.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)19:39 No.1512244
    >>1511630
    It's really not a bad idea, even better you have a few people to split the cost of the table, and to help you watch it. It made me fall in love all over again.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)20:14 No.1512393
    After reading this thread.. We should impose an age limit. 18 for most cons, 21 for something like D*C.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)20:16 No.1512400
    >>1512393
    I'd even like it if after 6pm all the under 18s had to go home for the day or have their parent AT THEIR SIDE ALL THE TIME. None of this dropping the kid off, you gotta look after the brat.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)20:40 No.1512465
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    All the complaints about Narutards... It hurts even more if you're a closet Naruto fan. No, I don't want to see your sexy no jutsu version of your original character/SCIENCE baby of Sasuke and Kakashi.

    I've never seen yaoi paddles on German cons (is it the same with the rest of Europe?) yet. But the day will come when they're sold even here, and that makes me afraid
    SO VERY AFRAID
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)20:54 No.1512494
    >>1512393
    That's why I'm planning to make a 18+ con called FanService in Germany or maybe Austria... IF I can find any "How to hold conventions" material, because I don't know shit about planning anything like this
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)20:58 No.1512503
    Many of these underaged weaboos are funding the dealers, which is why no con really would get rid of them entirely.

    I know at my first con I bought a fuckton of stuff, but wised up to it later on.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)21:03 No.1512513
    cons aren't as wow anymore because it's like.... everyone knows and likes anime... and its been killed... so yeah. I know how you feel. When I was younger I was fascinated with them, looking all over the net for the day I can go to one, and now I can and I'm like fuck that
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)21:05 No.1512524
    my first con back in 2000 was still the best con experience i had. over the years, obviously one's interest in cons declines rapidly.
    now, i only go to cons to look at and photograph cute cosplayers. i ignore all of the events and i don't socialize.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)21:33 No.1512591
    I started disliking cons when I got into lolita fashion... Cosplayers (I used to be one) should know how it is to be treated as freaks and outsiders for what they wear, but they still rage at lolis for being "elitist" and looking omg retarded. Mostly coming from people who just sermonized about ~TOLERANCE~ regarding people being "different", yaoi, and whatnot.

    Hell, I've been to cons were everyone just STARED like we were dressed like rappers or something. Many people don't dare to ask for photos, so they make them while passing by or hiding behind corners. What the hell

    Oh, and young con-goers of course. Cliche phrase: When I was younger, I didn't behave like that.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)21:43 No.1512622
    As weird as it is, I sometimes think I might like a con better if I went alone. :s My friends are in that bitchy holier-than-thou stage I hate and while I don't exactly like the Naruto and/or Yaoi fans all that much, I don't mind it. I tolerate it because it's really not THAT annoying... they're just being fans.

    But yeah, going alone, I would probably have more time to go at my own pace, take pictures, etc. I'd probably do casual photoshoots for people, tbh.
    >> Anonymous 12/30/08(Tue)21:58 No.1512655
    I've always hated cons.
    >> Pasta 12/30/08(Tue)23:13 No.1512847
    Cons do feel like they're losing their magic for me, but I don't think I've changed much of what I do when I'm there. I take pictures of cosplayers, get my picture taken, hang out with my friends, and go to cosplay events. The only other difference in progress is if there's a guest I want to meet or something like that.

    Panels are boring, I didn't pay 65$ to get in to watch anime I could torrent for free at home, and elitist douchebags and retarded fans make it almost impossible to make new friends.

    It's an excuse to hang with my friends, buy shit I couldn't be arsed to buy at home online, and wear silly costumes that I've spent way too much money making.
    >> 4dalulz 12/30/08(Tue)23:28 No.1512884
    I've been attending anime cons since 2000, and I have more fun than ever. I usually only cosplay for one day, and spend the rest hanging with friends. Since our group is basically in their mid to late twenties, cons are vacations from the stress of jobs, school and real life.

    I couldn't imagine attending cons if I didn't travel with fifteen other drunken idiots who know what it feels like to be 25 in a crowd full of teens.

    Then again, I hardly do any events outside of cosplay. I don't attend panels, never give a shit about guests, and hell...I don't even watch anime anymore.

    ..............FUCK.


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