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    254 KB Anonymous 12/19/08(Fri)23:04 No.1488397  
    omg, so fugly! please tell me these chicks don't get paid for this crap.
    >> motoko !!Z9RHDE0TyCR 12/19/08(Fri)23:05 No.1488399
    >>1488397
    they only get paid $100 a set.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/08(Fri)23:09 No.1488403
    >>1488399
    try again
    >> motoko !!Z9RHDE0TyCR 12/19/08(Fri)23:10 No.1488407
    >>1488403
    huuuur I know it is around $100, because a friend of mine was propositioned to do some sets.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/08(Fri)23:11 No.1488415
    *barf*
    >> Anonymous 12/19/08(Fri)23:12 No.1488417
    There was a whole a thread on how much they get paid.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/08(Fri)23:18 No.1488430
    do you faggots seriously camp that website?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/08(Fri)23:59 No.1488517
    I'm really in debt and thinking of doing a set with them, will I ever be able to get respect from anyone again?
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)00:01 No.1488520
    >>1488407
    2 models have shared what they get paid, the more stuff you do te more you get. $100 is a base rate, one girl got a fuck ton of money for a requested set.
    >> Batou !qD8vlZrG/. 12/20/08(Sat)00:01 No.1488521
    >>1488517
    No. No you wouldn't.

    Because not only would you be a whore. You'd be a cheap one.
    >> motoko !!Z9RHDE0TyCR 12/20/08(Sat)00:03 No.1488530
    >>1488520
    but that does not negate the fact that the base rate is still $100.

    regardless, they get paid jackshit when compared to more "legit" websites...(if such a thing really exists.)
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)00:06 No.1488536
    >>1488521
    Well, I dunno about the cheap part, $200 really isn't that bad... you get that for just nudes, and there are no requirements with that, they can be like artsy nudes and you'll still get $200.
    >> Batou !qD8vlZrG/. 12/20/08(Sat)00:11 No.1488548
    >>1488536
    But... these aren't artsy in any way. It's smut. And bad smut at that.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)00:13 No.1488554
    >>1488548
    Obviously they're tacky and slutty, I'm just saying that they don't need to be.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)00:13 No.1488555
    Suicide Girls pays a lot more, and they have little to no requirements for how attractive their girls are, either.

    If you need money and don't mind being a skank, go with SG.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)00:15 No.1488558
    >>1488517
    No. If you're going to go be naked on the internet forever, do it for more than $100 and on a better site.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)00:18 No.1488563
    If you want to be a whore you might as well go for broke and sell yourself at the street. You might find a couple of lonely rich doctors into costume play.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)00:19 No.1488565
    >>1488555
    I guess, but I don't have piercings, tattoos or a rainbow colored mohawk. You don't have to be attractive to work for SG but you have to be "alt" or whatever.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)00:21 No.1488569
    >>1488565
    I hear some of them have all that shit fake.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)00:22 No.1488577
    >>1488555
    SG is a bad fucking idea. Bottom line. They suck and they own you.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)00:30 No.1488607
    >>1488397
    I hate this stupid set, the girls are so not into each other and so much more into the camera, it's not even sexy.

    Honestly CD isn't a bad IDEA because god knows I'd LOVE to see some good cosplay porn/nudes, but the models are fug, don't know how to model and the pictures just look shitty. I wish someone else had come up with this idea first because I'd love to have seen it done right.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)01:59 No.1488795
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    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)03:14 No.1488945
    >>1488565
    That's not true at all. They have some of the most vanilla looking girls ever on that site. Looks like plenty of other girls that couldn't get real modeling gigs stooped down to SG, no reason you can't either.
    >> Batou !qD8vlZrG/. 12/20/08(Sat)03:25 No.1488962
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    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)03:29 No.1488965
    I modeled for it once..or 6 times..
    >> Avi !puBUpFsw.I 12/20/08(Sat)04:16 No.1488993
    >>1488962
    I almost shot milk out of my nose the first time I saw this picture. True Story.
    >> rkown !sZtSxEnfYY 12/20/08(Sat)07:26 No.1489107
    You have to be really stupid to even consider working for a site like CD. $100 isn't worth it. Hundreds if not thousands of people then have pictures of you whoring yourself out for forever and you WILL end up regretting it. There isn't enough money in the world to make that ever worthwhile.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)08:24 No.1489145
    Wow, how did I miss this thread? I just got hired along with two of my friends here in New York, We were all offered 200 a set as a base rate and some other benefit stuff.
    And yea go ahead and do SG, if you wanted to be treated like crap and held to a contract.
    And where are you guys getting smutty from? We're told specifically NOT to do spread leg shots or anything like penetration. It really sounds like everyone here is full of false information, and of course like the internet likes to pretend they know everything.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)08:34 No.1489151
    >>1489145

    Well they must have put the pay up, when this first began he was offering like $20 an hour
    >> ai-honey !eEQ3LJoZmM 12/20/08(Sat)08:44 No.1489160
    >>1489145
    Man, $200 is still not a lot. Especially since I can make a whole lot more than that in a month WITHOUT taking my kit off and barely doing anything.

    Dear my brain
    I love you, don't ever go away.
    Kelly.

    I bet it sucks not having enough skills to make money without getting a job at wallmart or taking your clothes off for boner robin.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)09:07 No.1489174
    >>1489160
    Wow you've just offended quite a lot of people there in one go. You shouldn't stereotype people so quickly.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)09:09 No.1489175
    >>1489174
    What, offending strippers?
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)09:09 No.1489176
    Lo Fi Guy should join Cosplay Deviants

    we've seen you naked already, might as well make some money from it
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)09:11 No.1489178
    >>1489160

    There's a different between $200 in a month vs a few hours.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)09:14 No.1489180
    >>1489175
    All I'm saying is as far as I know, no one has stereotyped her for the times she has worn Yoko (but doesn't "get her kit off") If these people want to do these things then it really is their choice. Have you not seen some of the stuff Yaya has done? Miyu? There are some serious double standards here.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)09:14 No.1489181
    >>1489178

    Err, difference.
    >> ai-honey !eEQ3LJoZmM 12/20/08(Sat)09:15 No.1489182
    >>1489174
    Can't say I'm too bothered by offending CD's "models". This is 4chan, what do you expect? At the end of the day if they want to do such work it's fine but they should expect people not to think so highly of them.

    They can show off their boobs for pittance all they like, I'd rather use my intelligence.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)09:17 No.1489185
    >>1489182
    and cosplaying yoko wasn't showing off your boobs?
    >> ai-honey !eEQ3LJoZmM 12/20/08(Sat)09:19 No.1489186
    >>1489178
    Considering the rates at which new photosets go up I seriously don't imagine they are making that much more in a month.

    >>1489180
    Yoko is cosplay, I'm not going to even bother arguing that one since I'm not naked. What others choose to do is none of my concern though as far as I know neither have proper nudes anyway. Both are still different than posing for BR and getting paid by him anyway.
    >> ai-honey !eEQ3LJoZmM 12/20/08(Sat)09:20 No.1489187
    >>1489185
    That's like saying showing off clevage when going into town is the same as getting your kit off. Mm, no underboob =/= stripping.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)09:23 No.1489188
    >>1489187
    You misunderstand my point. I am just pointing out that there are levels of decancy. You probably don't want people to stereotype you for wearing "revealing cosplays that you know will have all the men gawping" so you shouldn't be so quick to do it to others.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)09:27 No.1489193
    I fail to understand why so many people think that all strippers are idiots. All they have to do is show their tits and guys throw their hard earned money at them. Seems like easy pay to me.
    >> ai-honey !eEQ3LJoZmM 12/20/08(Sat)09:30 No.1489195
    >>1489188
    Well, since I have only done one such cosplay and don't have any immediate plans for any others I don't see why that would be the case anyway. If anyone DID think that, well, they'd be wrong.

    Besides, I wasn't stereotyping anyone last time I checked. I was just revelling in the fact that I don't have to degrade myself to make money.

    Believe me, I'm not a prude. The female form is beautiful. However BR's work is barely tasteful let alone artistic and the amount of shoop that goes into most of the pictures just to make them stomach-able is laughable.
    >> ai-honey !eEQ3LJoZmM 12/20/08(Sat)09:32 No.1489196
    >>1489193
    There are plenty of easy ways to make money my friend that don't involve showing tits.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)09:32 No.1489197
    >>1489195

    >I bet it sucks not having enough skills to make money without getting a job at wallmart or taking your clothes off for boner robin.

    Sounds like stereotyping to me.
    >> ai-honey !eEQ3LJoZmM 12/20/08(Sat)09:37 No.1489203
    >>1489197
    lol. Obviously I don't believe all strippers are thick, it was just a joke. Still; if your best bet is making money from BR I have to admit I am probably going to doubt your intelligence.

    BR is the smart one afterall. He gets you girls to take your kit off, he does nothing and makes the most money! Geez if I was going to get naked I would at LEAST make and maintain my own website and publicise it through better means capitalising on all of the profit. Not having to work for a creep is a bonus.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)09:39 No.1489205
    >>1489203

    >you girls

    There you go jumping to assumptions again.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)09:40 No.1489208
    >>1489205
    It's already been proven most of /cgl/ is female.
    >> ai-honey !eEQ3LJoZmM 12/20/08(Sat)09:41 No.1489209
    >>1489205
    .. so you're the one guy model they have then?
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)09:41 No.1489210
    >>1489196
    so hentai voice acting is any better?
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)09:43 No.1489211
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    this thread makes me mmmmmmmrrrrffffff
    >> ai-honey !eEQ3LJoZmM 12/20/08(Sat)09:44 No.1489212
    >>1489210
    Yes, it's all in the 'acting' part dear. That's like saying an actor who acts a sex scene in a film is comparable to someone who strips to make money. Mm, nope. Acting is fiction.
    >> ai-honey !eEQ3LJoZmM 12/20/08(Sat)09:59 No.1489216
    >>1489210
    Since we're getting personal now it appears I have hit a nerve. ;) really my opinion is rather tame in comparison to what the general public would think. Honestly if you care about such negative opinions you are probably in the wrong business.

    Really though; I don't believe strippers are stupid. I have to admit strippers working for BR.. er yeah. At the end of the day an attractive model could make more from being independent if they were smart enough to know how to go about it. Honestly $200? Pfft, I used to get $500 a month from google adsense back on a /fansite/ I used to run; set up a successful website and you could have a nice revenue. You know, if you really insist on taking your kit off for money.

    So if by chance I was one of the few attractive models on that site I would get the hell out of there as quickly as I could.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)10:00 No.1489217
    >>1489209

    If it makes you feel better about your bawwing about it, then sure, I'm one of BR's models.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)10:01 No.1489218
    >>1489216

    You're arguing with someone else, now, deary.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)10:07 No.1489220
    >>1489211
    thumbnail made me think "get back in the kitchen!"
    >> ai-honey !eEQ3LJoZmM 12/20/08(Sat)10:10 No.1489221
    >>1489217
    lawl, I'm not bawwing about it, and if you are not somehow involved in the situation you wouldn't have highlighted where I said 'girls' or it wouldn't have made any sense. Also you're incredibly defensive. :O

    At the end of the day it's true, the models take their kit off, BR does nothing and makes more. I fail to see how he is not the winnar in this.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)10:18 No.1489226
    >>1489221

    I quoted you because you said 'you girls' not just 'girls'. You're talking to me under the assumption that I'm one of his models with no base knowledge on the matter.

    I'm not defensive about anything, merely pointing out your contridictions.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)10:19 No.1489228
    >>1489221

    And I'm not disagreeing about how BR does shit and gets the most out of it.
    >> ai-honey !eEQ3LJoZmM 12/20/08(Sat)10:22 No.1489229
    >>1489226
    If you had noticed, one of his models DID post in this thread, which is why I was speaking in such a way. It's moot anyway since it doesn't affect what I was saying. I'm certainly not contradicting myself.
    >> ai-honey !eEQ3LJoZmM 12/20/08(Sat)10:22 No.1489230
    >>1489229
    Anyway I need to go make a 3 hour journey home. bbl
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)10:23 No.1489232
    >>1489221

    What has he being the winner in this got to do with you being condesending towards others and sneering about their wal-mart jobs and strippers?

    You're just another fucking attention whore who doesn't even get money for the whoring anyway.
    >> Lo-Fi !Z2lCihJJPg 12/20/08(Sat)10:29 No.1489235
    ai-honey is mai waifu
    *A*

    and no. no porn. just be (dis)content with the free pics of my dong
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)10:38 No.1489238
    Ever since Troy hired photographers to shoot the sets the quality has indeed risen. And 200$ for maybe an hour of work? Shit sounds cash to me.
    >> ai-honey !eEQ3LJoZmM 12/20/08(Sat)10:44 No.1489243
    >>1489232
    Ohh, someones a bit defensive. You a stripper or a wallmart employee (or both?!).

    What's funny is I have a rather relaxed view on such things. If you don't like the way I think someone should introduce you to the real world. ;D

    Funny thing is I have nothing against either, can't say I'd want to be in my sixties still working in wallmart or shaking my titties about for a couple of hundred bucks but that's neither here nor there.

    Asides from which I don't need money for whoring myself, that was somewhat the point.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)10:59 No.1489247
    Lawl Internet Argument!
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)11:12 No.1489252
    >>1489160
    Hey, I've worked for walmart in their fabrics department. I suppose you look down upon me then?

    What a bitch.
    >> sebastian !QzrU9Y5.76 12/20/08(Sat)11:17 No.1489256
    I can't believe I'm the one that gets to do this for once rather than the usual other way around, but Kelly, that was way tl;dr.

    What everyone's saying amounts to this:
    "Boner Robin is a genius for making money out of something so simple, the 'models' are getting hilariously ripped off and could do much better for themselves in terms of both social and financial standing"

    "HURF DURF NO HE PAID ME LESS THAN A THIRD OF THE INDUSTRY STANDARD WHICH IS OKAY BECAUSE I CAN'T DO SHIT ELSE HOW AWESOME AM I STFU PEOPLE THINK YOU'RE HOT SO THAT'S JUST AS BAD"

    "lolwut?"


    CD sympathisers: BR is ripping everyone off, working for him in any capacity is not a good idea.
    CD-hating anti-stuff people: if someone is dumb enough to support CD in any way then they're too dumb to listen to reason, don't bother.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)11:23 No.1489261
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    Is YuffieBunny on this site yet?
    >> sebastian !QzrU9Y5.76 12/20/08(Sat)11:25 No.1489262
    >>1489261
    It wouldn't surprise me if she ever was but for the love of god nobody in the world wants or needs to see her naked again.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)11:34 No.1489269
    I love all the people talking about Troy ripping his models off as if they actually care about the models or something. For a site in it's infancy I'd say the models are making a fair amount especially since most of the girls have no previous modeling experience and the ones who do are getting paid more for it.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)11:39 No.1489271
    >>1489261

    yuffiebunny gets paid more a lot more per set than cd offers

    lol at people thinking troy makes decent money off of cd, if he did, do you think he'd still be trying to rip people off on cosplay commissions and crying about it on 4chan when his auctions get cancelled? poor troy
    >> sebastian !QzrU9Y5.76 12/20/08(Sat)11:43 No.1489273
    >>1489269
    Industry standard rate for an inexperience amateur model doing nude work is $370 base rate then usually + expenses and so on is assumed. If it's true he's only paying $100/sometimes $200, then he's ripping them off to a rather great degree.

    And that's going by nude work, if you categorized it as pornographic work (which it could well be considered) then he's ripping them off by even more.

    It's not like there are companies out there paying models pocket money for this (well actually I know of one, but that's a different story). Basic artistic nude modelling commands prices in the multiple thousands for people with experience and can be around a straight grand for inexperienced people.


    Damn scrotty poor people. Get standards, do your research, stop letting yourselves get ripped off so badly.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)11:46 No.1489274
    >>1489273
    What are you smoking? Inexperienced people usually don't get paid, they get TFP and tear sheets for their portfolio! They're lucky their even getting paid if they're inexperienced!
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)11:47 No.1489275
    >>1489273

    Please enlighten us as to who, would pay one of the two models in the original picture more than 200 for a set. You throw around all this industry standard talk but a source would be nice.
    >> sebastian !QzrU9Y5.76 12/20/08(Sat)11:53 No.1489280
    I was only going to post again to say that actually looking at it, OP's girls aren't as fugly as CD's 'models' usually are. But since I'm here...

    >>1489274
    ...

    Excuse me while I wipe away the tears that are in my eyes from laughing so hard.

    TFP? Are you trying some failed attempt at sarcasm? Nobody does work just for prints anymore, that shit got thrown out in the 70's. Prints are as standard now (or rather, a CD with the .RAWs is usually referred these days), have been for decades. Free prints (or a digital copy) aren't something special to have in place of payment, they're something that you have the rights to and as far as the law is concerned throughout Europe, Canada, and all of the USA (except for Oregon for some reason), you can demand physical or digital copies of all pictures you are the key subject of for no charge. Why the fuck would you accept that as your only payment when it's your right to have them anyway in addition to payment? Are you out of your fucking mind?

    And I don't know where to even begin telling you what is wrong with the idea that someone wouldn't get paid just because they have no previous experience, especially when it's nude work we're talking about.
    >> sebastian !QzrU9Y5.76 12/20/08(Sat)11:54 No.1489281
    Also in case you can't tell I'm currently eating a big bowl of /facepalm at this entire thread.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)11:57 No.1489283
    >>1489273
    http://www.cosplaydeviants.com/phpbb/
    >>We have 440 registered users

    Sebastian didn't we go over this the other day? LOL I always enjoy how you seem to know everything about CD and it's practices.

    >>1489261
    YuffieBunny was refused as a model actually.

    >>1489274
    This. Most of these girls wouldn't make near anything in the field being inexperienced. Browse Model Mayhem and see all of the models willing to get nude just for TFP or TFCD. On top of which, unless any of you bashing this are actual models or staff we have no idea what or if anything else is included with modeling for the site. I.e. convention passes, costumes, travel.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)11:57 No.1489284
    >>1489280
    It's still call TFP, even if it's TFCD. I'm glad you're stupid enough to not even know the "industry". Good luck paying models "thousands of dollars" when you don't have to.
    >> I Am Proud To Be Asian 12/20/08(Sat)12:02 No.1489293
    >>1489275
    Hey FAT dumb disgusting american, stop cosplaying OUR Anime characters because you FAT dumb disgusting american mostly end ruining them with your pathetic cosplayer who have no shame to cosplay skinny or even skimpy looking Anime character when they are FAT and disgusting, go cosplay as your WORTHLESS dumb cartoon characters since I or we Asians don't care you FAT dumb disgusting american ruining your own worthless stuff.

    It is super rare to see a FAT Anime character since we Asians have very few FAT peoples in Asia as well, so american should stop cosplaying our Anime characters since there are over 69% FAT american out there who have no shame to show how FAT and disgusting they are by trying to look cute and adorable like us Asian by dressing themselves as our Anime characters instead of their worthless disgusting cartoon characters.

    The fact of how Asian cosplayers are better or the BEST will never change as long as non Asians still keep on cosplaying as our Anime characters instead of cosplaying as their [ non Asians ] Cartoon characters while we Asians stick to cosplay as our Anime characters. Because we Asians made our Anime characters to resembles our Asian facial and body form so it is the same as cosplaying as ourselves when cosplaying as our Anime characters.

    Reference = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZTKjjw5OI0&fmt=18
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)12:04 No.1489301
    >>1489293

    "OUR" LOL .
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)12:06 No.1489305
    >>1489301
    Yeah, because he TOTALLY lives in Japan and TOTALLY owns some of every company that made an anime.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)12:21 No.1489328
    bump
    >> I Am Proud To Be Asian 12/20/08(Sat)12:23 No.1489336
    >>1489305
    The most worse thing the american did are CONTINUOUS racial rape they did to countless Japanese girls that are not only happened in the past but keep on happening to this present!
    - September 1995, a 12 years old Japanese school girl abducted then racially gang raped brutally by 3 american in Okinawa
    http://www.kusanone.org/modules/english/index.php?content_id=4"
    - June 1998, a 20 years old Japanese female racially raped by an american in Okinawa
    http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20041106b3.html
    - June 2001, again a 20 years old Japanese female racially raped by an american airman in Okinawa
    http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20020329a2.html
    - May 2003 a 19 year old Japanese girl racially raped by an american marine in Okinawa
    http://www.japan-press.co.jp/2003/2338/us.html
    - October 2007, a 19 years old Japanese girl racially gang raped by 4 american in Hiroshima
    http://www.japan-press.co.jp/2007/2547/military2.html
    - 11 February 2008 another poor Japanese [ 14 years old ] girl racially raped by a 38 years old american in Okinawa
    http://search.japantimes.co.jp/rss/nn20080213a1.html
    Those information are just a very small few of a far more bigger rape the american keep on committed towards Japanese females between the year of 1995 - 2008, there are a lot more that not only happened between 1995 - 2008 but also far before that year.
    Those terrible crimes are not the end, other than keep on raping Japanese girls the american also keep on doing deferent kind of crimes in Japan that have made countless Japanese in suffering starting from robbery to murder http://www.japan-press.co.jp/2005/2442/usf.html

    No wonder Japanese hates american soo much.
    >> sebastian !QzrU9Y5.76 12/20/08(Sat)12:27 No.1489346
    >>1489283
    They have 440 users registered to their forum. This proves... what? It's of absolutely no relevance.


    You are right though that we don't know if they get other perks in addition to basic payment, I concede that. That sort of thing is very rare though so it can't be assumed either. We'll have to put that under the wild card pile.

    As far as other random girls trying to get into modelling online - well, as I said: Damn scrotty poor people. Get standards, do your research, stop letting yourselves get ripped off so badly.

    >>1489284
    No shit it's still called TFP. Again, that wasn't something I even debated.

    And no, you do have to pay out that much. Certainly if the images are a product at least.

    [Case examples removed for space, e-mail me if you care to hear them]

    tl;dr version: the world is bigger, richer and more expensive than you think. Bloody poor people.


    The facts are this: BR is under-paying his 'models' by a long way, and they could all make much more money doing much less if they went elsewhere.
    Don't BAWWWWW here just because you, your friends or whoever got ripped off by him.

    Have a nice day, I'm off to a gig. Gg all, gg.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)12:33 No.1489358
    >>1489346
    And again I say, WHERE? What other startup site is going to pay an inexperienced model more than $200?
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)12:51 No.1489402
    javascript:quote('1489336')

    Yeah, The rape of Nanking, the torture and killing of POWs during WW2, the cannibalism (while still alive) of captured U.S. flyers on ChiChi Jima, The live dissection of Chinese in the name of science....you have a lot to be proud of.
    >> Anonymous 12/20/08(Sat)13:04 No.1489426
    >>1489346
    Thanks for proving you're an idiot. I've shot over 70 nude models in the past year alone and they were all TFP/TFCD. My stuff has been in national galleries and I've published a book. Stop trying to act important, your way isn't the _only_ way, it's just the stupider way.


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