Yeah, B2K redeemed the entire game.

>MFW using MAV on Karkand

Oh man, a team just goes into rape mode once someone is using MAV.

>>120550183
Yeah, I wonder if I'll even play the old maps again. This shit is so good.

So deliciously good.

Oh man, Wake island is still amazing.

0/10
make it less obvious next time EA

It's overpriced DLC that should have been included in the original release you stupid faggots.

It's bad enough that you bought the game in the first place.

>>120556991
>Free DLC
>Overpriced

find the easter egg i left for you on karkand, oman and sharqi.
hurry up fagets!

>>120557369
You forgot Wake, there's one there too.

>>120557423
but that's not aimed at you guys, i added something especially for /v/

> mfw these maps are shit

Never been so disappointed

I honestly can't see why everyone are so giddy about B2K. It felt NOTHING like the maps in BF2. Everything is smaller and grey, grey everywhere.

>>120559708
What's so shit about them? They're only slightly smaller than their biggest versions in BF2.

I think they're just what BF3 needed since the maps on release were horrendous shit.

its still shit, not balanced for consoles or pc either way

>>120556991
>Free DLC
>Overpriced

I never had so much fun playing bf3.

This is what bf3 should have been in the first place.

I don't know what dice was thinking when they made the vanilla bf3 maps, they are all garbage compared to the b2k ones.

even more fucking noobtubing than before...

The B2K maps feel more like BC2 maps than BF2. Which is fine with me. There is really no point in playing shit like grand bazaar, damavand or metro.
Also, I hope they will make a DLC with maps from BC2. I would totally pay 15$ for Arica Harbor.

The only good map in B2K is Shariq Peninsula.

Karkand is shit compared to it's BF2 counter-part.
Gulf of Oman is shit compared to it's BF2 counter-part.
Wake Island is the same fucking map as in BF1943 which is shit.

>>120560132
Why? They're exactly the same except slighly smaller, except for Sharqi which is pretty much the same map.

>ITT: Hates gonna hate

>>120560268

Well, because BF3 is basically BC 2.5.

>>120560504
Why?

>>120559780

Every time I die it's to someone I can't see. There's too much fucking interiors filled with too many fucking crates. Sun glare out the ass on Wake. Oman is FLOODLIGHTS GLARE GLARE GLARE FLOODLIGHTS.

On 64p these maps are just horrible. On 32p it's barren.

These maps just don't translate well to Battlefield of Duty. I just didn't enjoy myself once last night, I'd spend most of my time running then getting randomly killed by some faggot hiding in a crater or fountain in the middle of fucking nowhere.

>>120557369

The teddybear?

>>120560559
>Every time I die it's to someone I can't see

JUST LIKE IN BF2

>Me and friend join a server
>We get put on opposite teams
>As a joke i say to friend "Tell everyone that if the y press alt-f4 they'll get all the new unlocks due to new bug."
>He does say it in All-chat
>4 people drop the game

Fucking hell. People still fall for this babby troll material.

>>120560559
>I am bad so the game is bad

So is anyone going to suggest an EU server for us to play on

>>120560504
STOP fucking saying this bullshit. BC2 was actually good. This game is pure shit

>BF3 is shit compared to BF2
>say as much and decide to go back to BF2
>tons of BF3 babies all start yelling DURR NOSTALGIA BF3 IS BETAR
>back to karkand comes out
>BF3 babies all start going on about how it's the greatest thing ever

>>120560822

Nope. Its BC2 with a few tweaks and shit maps. Karkland fixed this.

>>120560559

Go back to vanilla aka CoD maps and stop whining.

>>120560915

gb2cod xd bottlefeeld 4 lyph3 xD

>>120560898
It is the best thing evar because its excatly what BF3 needed.

64 player big and open maps.

>>120560915
Eat a dick old nigga

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/servers/show/289938b7-725d-4e00-b989-c0bde797981f/24-7-BACK-2-K
ARKAND-600-Tickets-TM68/

Let's go niggers

You have to say something when you join so we know who is part of our sekrit club.

>>120560959
>>120561183

>>120561241

>Suddenly goes from 50 to 64 with 4 queued

ffs

Here's my list of BF2 maps that should have made it.

>Dalian Plant
>Dragon Valley
>El Alamein (because fuck you even though it would make no sense in BF3 because of the lack of everything it was still a HILARIOUS map)
>Kubra Dam
>Night Flight or Mass Destruction

>>120561317
inb4 El Alamein BF2 map

I just added that because it's so great.

Why are there barely any 64 player maps without a good ping?

Feels bad.

>>120560559
>I'd spend most of my time running

Gee, I wonder why you got killed.

Capture point. Hold point. Backup other points if yours is secure. Most importantly, learn the maps. After about 45 minutes in Karkand I learned pretty quickly which alleys to avoid so as not to get caught in explosions/debris/crossfire.

>>120559763
>Everything is smaller and grey, grey everywhere.

Wake and Sharqi are just as big as their older counterparts.
Karkand is missing the two other industry area caps and Gulf of oman is missing one cap at the river/bridge area so they're not that small.

AND BECAUSE BF2 WAS SUCH A FESTIVAL OF COLOURS.

>>120561735
Fukken captcha stole my pic

>>120561735
Yes it was a festival of colours. A beautiful yellow instead of this eye-straining piece of shit.

I think part of the reason people think these maps are so smaller is

>draw distance/fog in bf2 compared to bf3
>infinite sprint in bf3

maps felt alot bigger when you couldn't see clearly across the whole map into infinity, and having very limited sprint (meaning you walked alot more) made the distances feel alot bigger

still it might just be me though

>>120561563
Because the game was designed for consoles. 64 players was an afterthought.

>>120561866
Not sure if serious..

IN
MY
OPINION

BC2 was all about Rush, and it did Rush very, very well. It was a consolized version of Battlefield, and I think DICE pulled it off.. I enjoyed the shit out of that game on PC.

BF3, while not BF2, is more of a return to the original formula of battlefield, with large maps and vehicles.

I think it's wrong to compare them, because it seems to me that their focuses are entirely different.

All this being said, if you want to bitch about BF3 not being like a game from 2005, don't do it here. Make BF2 threads. There are people that actually like the game and want to discuss it. I know the thought of actually talking about games on /v/ is fucking revolutionary, but it would be nice if we could try it just once.

>>120561990

I should add that the stock maps, aside from two, MAYBE three, were god awful pieces of shit that don't deserve to exist.

sometimes I get the feeling I don't play battlefield like /v/

I fucking hate conquest
I fucking hate maps without air support

this game sucks on consoles. needs more BC2. probly sucks on PC as well. cant imagine Metro or some of the other maps with 64 players.

BF2 had awful infantry combat, abysmal hit registration, more brown than Gears of War, and less balanced vehicles than any other BF game. Take off the nostalgia goggles.

The only noticeably smaller map in B2K is Oman and it's still pretty big if you have to run to objectives on foot. Even so, you have to take into account that being out of cover is much more dangerous than it was in BF2 since you die so much faster in BF3.

Karkand seems to be exactly the same size but now has more traversable area since 90% of the buildings can be entered now. Wake is Wake. It's been shit since 1942 and it will continue being shit in every game it will be in. Sharqi was redone very well. It was already a claustrophobic fuckfest in BF2 and it came over to BF3 "intact", as it were.

Pic related, it's the cacophony of colors from BF2.

>>120562268

The big maps are nice, the little ones are a fucking nightmare.

>>120561990
I actually like rush more than I do conquest now

and I've played BF on PC since 1942

>>120562367

I like you.

>>120562467

While my personal opinion differs from your own, I am glad we both enjoy things.

Colon Right Parenthesis

>>120562367
>no mention of Grenade warfare being more prominent than shooting bullets.
almost perfect post.

i want a mofo remake of coral sea or battle of britain

miss these good ol' air maps

I pre ordered BF3 and I hated it from the start.

There is no excuse for a SP THAT bad. The only thing to do in MP is spamming rockets like apeshit and camping.

BUT I have to admit, Back to Karkand is actually pretty good. The new maps are a fantastillion time better than every one of the old ones.
(I still hate origin, though.)

Needed Mashtuur city. Then it would be perfect.

>there will never be another battlefield game as great as BF2142
I even bought it twice

>>120562858
>camping
Get out of here.

Karkand maps are pretty bad imo.

Some places have decent cover, others are huge wide open spaces they expect you to run across. Strike at Karkand was fun, but other maps are just holy shit why.

You can't even defend on Wake Rush, the only cover the defenders get is like a 4 foot hill, thats it.

>>120563109
Wake has always been a shit map.

>>120562898
It needs
Suez Canal
Sidi Power Plant
Cerbere Landing
Liberation of Leipzig
Highway Tampa
Belgrade
and Fall of Berlin

>>120562121
Agreed and this point is something that excites and frustrates me about B2K. The B2K maps are objectively BETTER than the BF3 vanilla maps. They have more traversable area, more capture points, more diverse layouts, and infinitely more destructibility. Compare the destructibility of Seine or the RU spawn of Metro to any portion of Sharqi or especially Karkand. It's not even comparable. It's like they were saving the real Frostbite 2 maps for B2K and the BF3 maps were just a very poor warmup.

Seine, Metro, Bazaar, Damavand, and arguably Tehran are just fucking awful maps, especially by Battlefield standards. Damavand conquest, in my opinion, is one of the worst multiplayer maps ever made. Even Shipment in CoD4 had a wackiness factor that kept it somewhat enjoyable. Thankfully, Caspian, Kharg, and Firestorm happen to be pretty decent. I am speaking about all of these maps purely from a Conquest mindset, by the way. Rush is a fun distraction sometimes, but it isn't really Battlefield.

>>120562916
100% agree. For all the technical things 2142 did so wrong, it did futuristic and epic (I think that word is appropriate here) battles so, so right. I would pay money for a 2143 expansion pack similar to BC2 Vietnam.

>>120562673
Shit, you're right. I think I tried to repress those memories.

>>120563109
Wake has always been shit.

I think BF3 is pretty cool. It's all blue and bloom and shit.

>>120561901

No, that's pretty much it, the maps feel smaller because you can see to the opposite side of the map and beyond no matter where you are, and infantry moves faster.

It should also be noted that jets move a lot faster than in BF2 as well. I jumped into the F35 as soon as B2K became available (and Origin stopped being down) and I was dismayed by how quickly I could cross from the carrier to the enemy landing strip. Same with Wake, the maps feel smaller because you're zooming around faster (and at a higher altitude thanks to heightened flight ceiling).

>no nostalgia goggles
>mfw b2k in bf3 is better

every bf has tons of bullshit. bf2 and bf3 have different kinds

no longer do i have to deal with

>indestructible buildings
>that fucking fog
>annoying and treacherous apc flank route to get past the frag spam camping that was karkand A flag
>bridge warfare at E (although honestly i miss it, that clusterfuck was entertaining as a medic)
>getting spawn trapped at US base
>5000 24/7 karkand infantry only servers
>claymore spam

instead i have to deal with

>laser gun accuracy
>foregrip warriors
>medic training
>bc2 faggots who don't know how to play an actual battlefield map
>no benefits of commander
>every server having retarded instant vehicle respawn
>health regen and killcam on almost every fucking server (hc is for faggots)

ill take the bf2 version but that's just because it has more features than bf3. in terms of balance, b2k in bf3 is much better than it was originally in bf2

>>120559763
>>120559763
>everything smaller and greyer

karkand is the same size - the long run in from the US spawn

karkand has a shit ton of buildings you can go into now

>complaining about grey when bf2's karkand was brown and brown

>>120563254

>It's not even comparable. It's like they were saving the real Frostbite 2 maps for B2K and the BF3 maps were just a very poor warmup.

It's pretty apparent at this point that the core game was rushed out the door to be released before MW3 and the main Christmas release-fest. The solution? Release as much of the game as possible before MW3 and then give the players the rest of the game when it's more-or-less done.

At least they had the decency/lacked the balls to charge people for it (the vast majority of people have the LE, retail stores are still selling the LE, regular versions of the game are harder to find than the LE at this point)

No, its fucking terrible.
Battlefield 3 is a shitty shitty shitty fucking game that will die as soon as someone releases a game that is even slightly less shitty.

>>120559845
>>120557265
It was only free with the limited edition. It's like $15 or something

IDK really... I lost a lot of my enjoyment in the game when they fucked over full auto firing.

I just can't stand the new cone of fire that guns have, takes a lot of the skill out of it.

Stop playing conquest. I know you're used to and it's the classic mode etc but it just sucks now and the game isn't made for it anymore. Maps are created for rush, you can't reject that reality

actually i take back what i said about the fog

the problem with bf3 is that its way too easy to see people. combined with the attachments and the significantly lessened rbs, and you have more people fighting at range because its incredibly simple now. since genuinely long shots are near impossible without a rifle, most players resort to mid ranged combat within 40-100m

low and behold, what are people using most often? ars and machine guns. hardly any pdws, hardly any shotguns, hardly any rifles, hardly any handguns. the problem right now is that the current visibility and attachments caters to mid-ranged gameplay where average weapons dominate. if you look at the stats, all the ars and lmgs have almost identical stats, either of the 25 or 33 variety. thats 25 or 33 at 1m. from mid range (40-100m), most of these weapons are doing either 16-22 or 26-33. guns are getting 4-6 hit kills, and at these ranges they're pretty damn accurate.

and people wonder why recon feels useless

so are they going to fix the "old" maps now? because this expansion doesn't change the fact that they are shit

>>120564736
Really nigga?
Rush in BF3 is terrible, BC1 was made for Rush and it did it perfectly.

>>120564703
This.
The thing I really enjoyed about battlefield 2, was that because of the hilarious detection, fights were either dolphin diving or people going proned taking well aimed shots (L85 is my waifu) at the enemy because HS was a one shot kill with every single gun except pistols.
Fuck this full auto, attachment and ultra scope call of duty combat. I want headshot based gameplay.

>>120564425
B2K was made by a totally separate team, in parallel to BF3 development, it was a lot of work to get it done so you could have it so soon, we didn't want to keep people waiting.

Personally I have no interest in defending decisions anymore, players will cry and whine about anything, if it B2K featured different maps people would complaion there was no karkand, if there was no enterable buildings people would complain, if there was less destruction people would complain, if the maps were bright and colourful people would complain because BF2 had monotone color palette, i have seen everythign from "the maps are too large" "the maps are too small" "the new guns are too OP" "the new guns are too weak", everybody will complain about everything.
Imagine how hard it is to get any kind of real feedback when nobody agrees on anything and the first thing someone says when talking about dice is calling us faggots.

>>120564834

even the tacked on conquest was pretty damn good in bc1

5 caps, no uncaps. it was basically conquest assault and it worked quite well

bc1 was more of a bf game than bf3

I can't stand to play BF3 and see for myself, so tell me this.

Do retards on Karkand still run into the meat grinder as US rather than going around the sides and capping the MEC flags across the river first?

The only good thing in BF2 is PR.

>>120564868

agreed, but they would have to nerf the defibrillator as well. no point in going for headshots if they don't kill faster and you can revive out of them infinitely ;_;

>>120565011
From the little I played, its even worse..kinda.
Warehouse and the one right at the back are gone and the path through the hill is off limits.

>>120565039
I would play that game 24/7, as would thousands of other people if they would just fix the combat.

>>120565011
Probably, but I haven't stayed in the middle of the map long enough to watch other people. You can still take an APC down through the river to cap G and F as soon as the fight starts.

>>120564174

Same bro, I have BF2 installed alongside BF3 now and I'm playing them on the same maps side by side.

Honestly? I'd rather put up with BF3's bullshit.

IMHO guns too accurate > guns too inaccurate. In the case of the former victory goes to either the guy with the best aim/reflexes or the guy who shot first, whereas with the CoF you're trusting yourself to the omnipotent dice roll.

As for lack of teamwork, that's just the Battlefield way, it's always been like that.

And the new Karkand is indeed more balanced. Karkand in BF2 was the Operation Metro of the game, a meatgrinder. With the new building interiors and destruction the map no longer funnels people into established killzones where grenade spam will turn them into paste.

Also, accuse me of heresy but Karkand is better now with one less CP east of the river, that place was always a real bitch to attack.

>>120565174
What's wrong with the combat?

>>120565208
karkand is also upside down

Sirs, please advise me. I play games mostly on the PC. I like a lot of FPS games like Team Fortress, Unreal Tournament, Tribes, and Counter-Strike. CS is the closest thing to a military shooter I've ever played. Would someone who has never played Battlefield before enjoy Battlefield 3 for the PC? Also, is it worth it to try any Modern Warfare games?

Also wake is still ass.

>>120564911

Dear DICE, assuming you are DICE

1. Fire the faggot map designers behind the vanilla maps.
2. Give the guy who worked on the B2K maps (the one who did the original maps in BF2) several promotions.
3. Please add Russian VO for the Russian side, I don't like having accented English. There's already an option in the sound menu but it can't be switched from English, so I assume you'll have it out.
4. Nerf foregrip on LMGs, they're supposed to be used with a bipod.

>>120565249
Where do I begin....
GUNS DO NOT FIRE AT RIGHT ANGLES, NO MATTER HOW FAST YOU RUN
THE 5.56 ROUND HAS ALMOST NO RECOIL, EVEN IN FULL AUTO, IN THE HANDS OF A TRAINED SERVICEMAN
Hell if you pace your shots to say....1 a second you can fire a 7.62 rifle really quite accurately.
PR does so much right, it is what battlefield 3 should have been, but the combat is fucked.
deviation should come into play after the first shot is fired, not all the fucking time.

>>120565011

there is hope! i swear i'm not trolling here

at first every retard did the meat grinder. people just charged A and died, albeit not from hand grenades (for once)

after i took our apc i said look you fucking retards, you flank to the back island and a great place to start is at D. personally i never take just the island because then you get bridge warfare at E but i always start with the classic hilly route to D. i actually got about 10 people following me, and once we started taking the back flags people spread out more and it played more like a battlefield game than a cod game.

i say this to all of /v/: always play your best

i'm a principled player. i never play with unfair attachments, and i always stand up for the older battlefield values. i'm actually good though, so i'm frequently in top 3 (getting mvp awards about 44% of the games i play in) and i always get a fuckton of points. surprisingly, these new kids realize they're total noobs and have no idea how battlefield works. when some guy who keeps kicking your ass says follow my lead, they fucking listen.

/v/, don't be too spiteful. be a shining example to all the noobs and we can make battlefield a better game for everyone

>>120565331

Oh yeah, by modern day standards BF3 is amazing, my own personal GOTY, the only complaint anyone can have for it is that it doesn't have X or Y or Z from the games released 6+ years ago. If you never played those games and don't have a reference point for BF3, then you'll love it.

Also, get it on PC, Origin really isn't a problem.

>>120565421
5 star post

>>120565312
Yeah, that was so weird. The map layout is the same, but the actual map is reversed north to south. It just takes getting used to but I was confused as hell for the first few seconds I looked at the full map.

>>120564555
Wrong. It's $23.95. I ordered LE but the retailer I got it from ran out and sent me standard and a $10 voucher (which has since expired) instead, so now I have to fork out an extra $24 just for maps.

>>120565566
So is Origin just a thing you install on your computer like Steam? It will basically be like Steam except I'll only use it for EA games and I won't have anyone on my friends list? Sounds annoying but tolerable.

>>120565331
Starting with CS as a base:

Modern Warfare games are more run and gun, your guns are always accurate and you kill people in 1 - 3 shots with most weapons, there is practically no recoil or spread, there is no point trying to get headshots because players move too fast and a body shot will kill just as fast as a headshot.
MW multiplayer is basically like a slightly prettier counterstrike, more speed less skill more frantic and spammy. the best of the series is CoD4:MW, they have gotten worse and worse (read: more retarded and over the top with perks and things) as the series went on.

BF3 is a good place to start, great game, horrible if you play alone, fantastic if you play with a couple of friends. it's less twitch and less responsive than CS or MW, but larger maps with vehicles means it's more about the battle than the individual encounter. i would reccomend you try both.

>>120565421

nerf the foregrip altogether

on assault rifles, you should be forced to use the underslung if you want to use the 320. this way, every person who wants to use it will have to give up their precious f2k, and even then they wont be able to be foregrip warriors with the aek

>>120565465
I always went across the river because I always played spec ops. That's another reason I can't stand BF3.

>>120564911
so you are a member of dice? yea right...

>>120565331
you better roll with the cod fags

>>120565421
>>120565421
And buff the shit out of bipods, lmgs are meant to be a suppressing tool, not a OH LOOK KILL ME tool.
and a keybind for the bipod would be nice.

I went back to BC2 and it felt like a breath of fresh air.

And I didn't think highly of BC2 the entire time.

To me, this only concludes that their games are getting worse, and now I'm switching to a less shitty game.

I just realized they removed the DICE exclusive attachments from the battlelog unlock page

>>120565462
You do know you have to wait a second or two before firing a weapon? It simulates readying your gun since there's no animation for it.

>>120565859
I know, its retarded.
So is USING THE FORWARD ASSIST EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU SWITCH TO YOUR M4.

>Unlocked the L85A2
>Had to win 5 Squad death match games
That shit was brutal as fuck.

>>120565822
no one cares go back to playing with 1000 servers

>>120565822
You and me both brother
I'm not going to call BF3 a bad game but it sure as hell wasn't fun playing for me personally.

Do you guys intentionally play on low graphic setting?

The problem with BF2 I felt was that it couldn't decide if it wanted to be an arcade shooter or Operation Flashpoint, so it ended up settling somewhere in between with game mechanics from both sides of the spectrum that often didn't work in the larger scheme of things (ie commander, nothing but a pain on pub servers)

I like how BF3 knows where it stands.

>>120565462
>GUNS DO NOT FIRE AT RIGHT ANGLES, NO MATTER HOW FAST YOU RUN
I dont understand what you mean by this? Why would you be running & gunning in PR?

>THE 5.56 ROUND HAS ALMOST NO RECOIL, EVEN IN FULL AUTO, IN THE HANDS OF A TRAINED SERVICEMAN

This is realistic.

>Hell if you pace your shots to say....1 a second you can fire a 7.62 rifle really quite accurately.

And what's wrong with that?

Can't use B2K weapons in servers that don't have the B2K expac.

Way to go full fuckin retard DICE

>>120566004
I run it maxed.
As soon as you start looking at things beyond 300m the game looks ugly as fuck. Only a few walls are rendered and the whole things is just fucked.

>>120565771

honestly i dont think the bipod is the problem, i think its the clarity of vision

you can easily see and hit people with the laser accurate ars, carbines and lmgs w/foregrip, so most people use that and spray at 40-100m. a bipod can be relevant, but it has to be at farther ranges since the base weapons are too accurate. sadly, this starts to go into the range where sniper rifles are effective, and since you're stationary with a bipod, you lose every time.

dice just needs to decrease accuracy over range and make it harder to see people at a distance

>>120566087

>Servers don't have B2K content
>Try using B2K content client-side
>WHY WON'T THIS WORK

No anon, you are the retard.

>>120565421
1. Won't happen.
2. The same guy didn't work on them, but he already has been promoted a long time ago.
3. I think purely from a gameplay side of things this was left out because it's nice to understand what is going on. Play some Red Orchestra and tell me if that's fun when everyone is giving orders you can't understand.
4. Designers are constantly looking at tweaking the game. Send feedback via the correct email and you will be heard. Check BF3 blog for more info, can't remember the right email addresses off the top of my head.

>>120566085
The things in caps are what should be in the game..but they arent.
Protip, there is a reason they removed the pistol from all classes except squaddie.

>>120566004
I was barely able to play the game on high getting 30 - 45 fps on average but with the new maps I'm dipping down to 19 - 25 minumum fps. Might have to tweak a few settings or go down to medium.

>>120566094
>Yfw you realize the trees on the edges of Caspian and Kharg are just sprites and you can fly through them.

Still no sea map with only 1 aircraft carrier for each team and only jets

I can't be the only one who wants this

>Pre Patch
>Open fire at one guy
>go full auto
>control your recoil like CS
>able to maneuver your full auto spray to a second and third target
>Never die to retards because you can control better than them

I had tons of fun with that, but...

>Post Patch
>See one guy
>Start a quick 6~ shot burst to bring him down in one go
>first shot lands
>second shot goes over his shoulder
>third shot hits the building to his right
>every shot after that lands on the moon

Absolutely ridiculous, they gave in to the little kids that were fucking terrible at the game. Now we all have to go with CoD sprayfest battles and randomly decide who kills who instead of skillful kills.

FUCKING DOUBLEKILLS ARE BACK TOO, JUST LIKE IN BC2

>>120566168
How about you dicks fixing the performance lag on the ps3 version?

>Win 5 times in Squad Deathmatch
fucking DICE

Wake island only works with conquest assault, blow hard on rush. Every other map works descent enough for both modes.

You can definitely tell these maps were not made with rush in mind considering they are from the older game.

I would like to see at least one more new map pack.
What I hope it includes:
>Arica Harbor, that was a great rush map.
>A new original close quarters, limited vehicles map
>A new original snow map maybe it can be CQC
>A tropical map, would settle for Valapraiso
>Backstab or deadly pass from BF2: modern combat

>mega looked forward to B2K
>started playing APB
>havent launched BF3 since

IS SO BAD BUT GOD DAMNIT ITS SO GOOD.

I must say that I did hate quite a few of the vanilla maps that game with the launch. Mostly my complaints stem from the whole "COD" style they went with for some of them.

Some maps [Like D Peak.] play fucking amazing in Rush but are horrendous dogshit in Conquest. I hated Conquest in BC2 but I am loving it here. Overall I am having fun, even when I die I can't really complain because nearly all of my deaths are me wandering around like a chicken with my head cut off.

If only all my friends weren't console faggots.

The new assault mode is bullshit giving the other team all objectives at the start

>>120566309
Wasn't BF3 always like that? I've always just sprayed in it and done good, there's no need to shoot in bursts since the recoil is manageable with most guns.

>>120566350

got it already

u jElLy br0?

it's a piece of shit don't bother

>>120566430
>has never played BF2

>>120565770
yes, but i'm not here speaking in any official role, not trying to viral, just talking about videogames in the only place worth talking about videogames on the internet.

>>120566489
It's still a shit game mode regardless.

>>120564911

Im going to blow your mind here, ready?

1. Put structures and cover (not just a rock or two) BETWEEN capture points on conquest maps. Strike at Karkand does this very well, other maps like Caspian don't do this at all.

2. Big flat open areas in rush mode are really really bad, first mcomms on Caspian are a good example.

>>120566168
1.Ok, but I hope at least someone in the office pointed it out to them. It's not even map design itself, simply more effort went into the B2K maps than the vanilla ones, Karkand has a shitton of dynamic objects per square metre for example, whereas a map like Firestorm just feels empty and cleaned out.

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tJijqizxfs Here's a video on B2K, those two guys are the ones I'm talking about, assuming they worked on both BF2 maps and the B2K maps they deserve a promotion.

3. Fair enough, but the OPTION should be there. BC2 let you choose between Russian and accented English, why isn't that in this? You don't even need to re-record anything, the Russian localized version of the game already has all the lines in Russian, just introduce that to the English version.

4. Maybe I will.

>>120566466
So....so....its not the 200 meter headshot king is was in BF2....
Fuck it.
I was never going to buy a DICE/EA game after BF3 ever again, so I don't really care.

>that feel when you have at least 10 mortar kills in B2K maps and still haven't unlocked the LMG (and yes i have the 20 lmg kills needed)

i fucking hate the mortar but i wanna try that gun out!!

We'll talk when Kubra Dam is playable.

>>120566275
you are not the only one

>>120562776

Too bad you can't use the original weapons on B2K maps.Straight up retarded just like vietnam for BC2. 2 WEAPONS PER CLASS SO FUN

>>120566597
You can't launch a mortar & hop out.

>>120566537
What about reddit, game devs are always doing shit there.

>>120566314
this is actually fixable by changing your refresh settings on your TV, try hooking your PC up to your PS3 and you'll see the input lag isn't nearly as bad.

>>120562776
EL ALAMEIN
HIGHWAY TAMPA

I PLAYED THAT SHIT SO MUCH ITS NOT FUNNY
I LOVE MY ARMOUR
I HATE BULLSHIT ARMOUR UNLOCKS
I HATE UNLOCKS ALL TOGETHER WHEN THEY DISCRIMINATE SO HORRIFICALLY AGAINST NEW PLAYERS.

>>120566672
oh you

conquest assault is horribly one sided always. With high ticket counts it is even worse, either the side that started with the objectives keeps them all for the entire game or the attackers steam roll everything. I've yet to see a middle ground.

>hear about enhanced destruction
>go on the game
>same level of destruction as regular maps

what a load of shit

Anyone else feel that wake island is awful compared the the 1942 version? Where's the landing craft and the frigates?

WHY IS DICE SO AGAINST SHIPS?!

>>120566593

it starts with a 12x scope, has burst, etc

but it is inaccurate as fuck, has hefty recoil, and the damage drop off isn't even worth using the 12x with anyways

just stick to one of the metal lasers such as the m416

>>120566723
Yeah, no.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5-4sSd4R-c

Also, switching to low-res gives it a performance boost, simular to lowering settings on a PC to make a game run smooth. You guys are assholes if you don't fix this proper.

>>120564911

Dear DICE, off the record what do YOU think of BF3?

Also, which shirt should I get?