Arrancar arc canonically is where it all started to begin the downward trend.

After SS arc in the general consensus

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/ir/yrt/readright/35098-read-right-to-left-the-downfall-of-bleach-part-1

SS arc, so pretty early on.

When Chad and Renji started to become useless.

The end of SS arc. After that, it's just DBZ with swords, but much worse.

A lot of people think it went bad with the Soul Society, and it's hard to argue that Hueco Mundo didn't suck. The entire Fullbring arc was bullshit too.

What kills Bleach for me is Ichigo's constant moping. That, and the complete bullshit powerlevel shit. Aizen getting beaten by Ichigo was too retarded for me to handle.

>>86443220
>>86443279
>>86443406
Then that must've been around where I quit.

>>86443438
>Aizen getting beaten by Ichigo was too retarded for me to handle.

I haven't been watching or reading it, care to elaborate?

I'm reading through it right now, only as far as Ichigo's Full Hollow battle/curb-stomping vs. Ulquiorra, and everything is pretty cool right now.

>50 or so episodes

Sounds like you tried watching the bount arc. Mexico was pretty shit, but that godawful filler makes it look amazing in comparison.

>>86443097 (OP)

Damn first opening was so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt4r932kYvM

>>86443280

They were never useful to begin with. Renji might finally do something now that he's training with Zero Squad. Dunno about Chad.

>>86443545
It's also worth noting that since I only read it, I'm not going through any of the anime-only filler arcs.

>>86443492
An anticlimaxing curbstomping fight, if you call that a fight, that ended in less than one chapter, with only one move.

>>86443556
nope. 50 is about when rukia gets kidnapped.

Editors. Mostly Editors.
Kubo not being good with fixing his shit on the run unlike Oda, too.
I mean, Kubo has faults in his style, he imitates his favorite SJ manga (Saint Seiya, DBZ) even with their original problems instead of fixing them. But even then it is mostly the usual editor bullshit at work.

Right after Rukia's rescue arc is completed.

>>86443492
Aizen abandoned his ungodly Zanpakuto ability to become a butterfly, and despite the fact that he's insane levels of overpowered and unkillable, Ichigo still defeats him with an ass-pull technique that comes at the cost of losing his shinigami powers (which we all knew was bullshit because we knew he'd be getting them back anyway). Then Kubo rubs it in our face even more by having Ichigo say, "Maybe he was just lonely because he was too strong and he really wanted to lose."

The whole thing pissed me off.

>>86443618

Kubo the opening. The rest are all shit.

>>86443658
No, Rukia gets kidnapped around episode 20. I don't remember where exactly I stopped either, but I think it may have actually been after the end of that arc judging by some of the responses in this thread.

Nah, it was going downhill before the Soul Society even ended. A show that 50 episodes in, still has not completed an arc, or really anything significant is not a good one. And the 50th was an awful mess, filler to boot.
Hell, there were probably good signs that it was going to be bad before then.

>>86443545
>THIS ISN'T HOW I WANTED TO WIN!!!!

Anyone else remember when Ichigo was cool and didn't while like a bitch all the time?

>>86443658
No, 50 is pretty deep into SS. Bount arc starts at 64.

>>86443658
lolwut

The series only goes for a dozen or so episodes until they begin the SS rescue arc.

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>>86443816

>>86443816
>while like a bitch

Whine.

>>86443265
>one of my first videos was about narootou
dropped

>>86443816
I'm more a fan of Uryu and the Quincies than Ichigo/anyone else though. As long as I still see a spirit arrow being fired once in a while I'll still enjoy it.

>>86444041
You Nazi.

>>86443618
Yeah, still one of my favorite OPs.

>>86443636
>>86443746
Wow, that's pretty lame.

>>86443556
Bount is Germanic, but Mexico.

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>>86444122

The first of Bleach I ever saw was Uryu vs. Mayuri, Soul Society arc while channel flipping back when I watched TV. Saw Uryu go full power and favorite character stuck.

>>86444249
just look at all those details in background

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>>86444124
>Maybe Aizen was just lonely the whole time because everything in Bleach needs to try way too hard to existential and deep.

Yeah, it was incredibly lame and bullshit.

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>>86444304
Why can't I hold all these backgrounds?

>>86443097 (OP)
When it stopped being about kids killing hollows and went serious business.

>>86444327
le m7 face

>>86444249
>>86444402

Bleached pages, gotta live up to its name.

>>86444327
So Aizen did all this shit because he couldn't find a play date? He's like that one nerdy kid in school that starts to hate everyone because he thinks everyone around him is too stupid and normal, while at the same time hating himself on the inside because he feels lonely.

>>86444586
he's exactly that.

>>86443816
>early Ichigo
>"Five ambulances."
>later Ichigo
>"Waaa this isn't how I wanted to win."
Yeah, really.

>>86444676
>Five ambulances
Oh man that was great.

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>>86444586
Pretty much, although there's a bit more to it. Seems like learning something about the spirit king is what really set him off.

One of the things that irks me the most was how Orihime went from a comedic relief/fanservice character to the main love interest with no real reason.

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>>86444586
Exactly, and that's what made it all that more bullshit. Aizen was fucking amazing when he was doing shit like 1-shotting Espada and Captains like he was swatting flies and making Hitsugaya stab Hinamori. But again, then they had to ruin him by having Ichigo beat him with a retarded asspull powerup, and then retroactively re-characterize him as a lonely nerd in high school.

>>86444793
Spirit King is about to bad touch everyone in the spirit world, and Aizen didn't want to be bad touched. Calling it now.

>>86444815
Orihime has always had a crush on Ichigo. You'd have to be retarded not to notice it.

>>86444878
Well, earlier on, it seemed more like a lighthearted crush that wasn't really going to go anywhere. Then, like everything else in Bleach, it got serious.

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>>86444815
Rukia is still olev, but I have a hard time believing she'll win in the end, unless she pulls an Isshin and gives up her power for whatever reason and becomes a normal human.

I'll say when Orihime got kidnapped. Ichigo going to mexico felt too soon.


I wish Ichigo's bankai wasn't so painfully outclassed by everybody.

>>86444952
>>86444819

Is there any reason to believe that there's going to be any romantic tension between Ichigo and any of the girls?

Unlike Yu Yu Hakusho, which set up the relationship between Yusuke and Keiko in the first episode, Bleach hasn't had any romantic plot hooks. After saving Orihime he's hardly shown any romantic interest in her.

Rukia's the only girl in the show he's had any meaningful interaction with and we haven't seen their relationship deepening.

Kubo might just end this manga with Ichigo and his nakama putting an end to the hollow threat once and for all and that will be it.

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>>86443097 (OP)
>massive pile of shit it is today

>>86446211

>I'll say when Orihime got kidnapped. Ichigo going to mexico felt too soon.

It was painfully clear by this point that Kubo didn't have any idea of where he was taking this story. At it's heart the Arrancar was just a recycling of the SS arc.

>>86446218
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if no one won in the end.

It was always shit.

>>86446395

I don't think Kubo has the balls to pull something like that off.

>>86446395

>I wouldn't be surprised if no one won in the end.

When you say "won", are your referring to the Shinigamis and Quincy's or Rukia/Orihime?

>>86446573
Talking about the girls winning the Ichigo.

>>86443618
Man, this brings back some memories. Is Kon even relevant anymore?

I don't think Ichigo likes girls.

What if instead of making Bleach Kubo just became a fashion designer

i always did enjoy his mid-chapter illustrations

>>86443618
watched it recently and thought "damn, this was the best part of the show"

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>>86446662
Kind of.

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>>86446773
I think pretty much everyone agrees that that would be for the best. Bleach would have been much better if Ichigo was a clothes model who fell into a rivalry with Rukia, a model/wannabe designer with shitty drawing skills from a rival agency. Pretty much take all the conflicts and organization/people from Bleach but work them into the fashion industry somehow.

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>>86447073
I would watch it. I would watch it hard.

>>86446624

Well, to be perfectly honest I will admit that I am rooting for a Rukia ending, mostly because the amusing banter between her and Ichigo is what got me interested in Bleach in the first place.

However, I'd be fine with a non-romance ending. Just so long as Orihime isn't the love interest; I find her character to be too dull and her interactions with Ichigo lack the chemistry that's necessary for a good pairing. If you're gonna put two character's together they must sync, and Ichigo and Orihime just don't.

>>86446773
I hope his next manga is a fashion manga. Just guys and gals dressed in awesome outfits doing shit.

>>86447144

Kubo you sly motherfucker, how did you get away with that?

>>86447266
>I am rooting for a Rukia ending

Stopped reading right there. You shipperfags are disgusting.

The first season of Bleach was awesome. I wish it would have stayed like that. SS arc was kind of cool, but still felt like a nosedive to me compared to the beginning. I'd like to pretend I never watched past 63.

>>86444586
So he's like me? Wow.

I've watched the full 366. The last part is PAINFULLY awfull. First 100 or so kept me going, the arrancar didn't bother me much... but then it turns into complete shit. Also about 80 % of the anime is fillers.

End of the Soul Society arc. Everything becomes power levels and Ichigo changes so that hes no longer the delinquent with a magical powers and just barely enough white knight to make him a protag.

Also Orihime stops being the cute, slightly useful but not really, fun character and becomes an annoying pair of tits with plot device status.

>>86449342
>slightly useful
As far as I've gotten, she's more useful early on in the story than she ever is later.

>>86449411
Thats what I said, she was slightly useful early on with he above human but still semi weak attack and healing support powers. Then later on shes just a plot device.

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>>86449130
>I've watched the full 366

>>86449130
>Not just reading manga

>>86449130
Bount was about 45
Captain was about 25
Rebel Sword was about 40
Fake Soul was about 30
With 19 filler episodes scattered around the series
159

About 140-170/366

>"filler" shit again
When will these faggots leave?

>>86450155
When will you leave, faggot? Nobody cares about "m-muh anime continuity!" crap you keep spewing.

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>>86449479
Sorry I took so long to make this.

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when these ass hats showed up i know its filler but i lost all interest after this

>>86450209
Oh fuck, it's not that "parallel continuity" idiot is it? He's still posting?

>>86450312
Yes, he still does.

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I'm still utterly disapointed this was just a few frames in an OP
Beach holiday arc with monster of the week as filler. Probably would've picked it up again for that...

you think kubo is going to force us to read the dog backstory right now? we just had isshin's flashback. any chance hell continue like he was last chapter, with half ichigo's sword being forged/half dog story? if i have to sit through a month of dog shit before i see ichigos new sword, im going to fuckin lose it

>>86450477
Man, Rukia looks so nice with her hair up

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>>86444815
>people think Orihime is seriously the main love interest
Great joke, tell another one.

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>>86453376
The poor girl will end up being rejected (oh the irony).

Bleach should have ended after Rukia was saved from being executed. That's all there is too it.

>>86453421
Or it could've gone straight to the Quincy War.

>>86453421
I disagree.

>>86453465
Nope.

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>Ichigo as Spirit King.
>With his friends as Royal Guard.

But if it had stayed "monster of the week," it would've become boring. I liked Power Rangers as a kid, but fuck me if I'm going to read that nowadays.

>>86453179
>you think kubo is going to force us to read the dog backstory right now?

no, it is the same with, sword, smell and Bert the talking Sword, we´ll see them when they are relevant again

>>86453421
>>86453465
It should have gone straight to the Quincy war, and then finished with Aizen storming in, defeating the remaining Shinigami and Quincy, overthrowing the Soul King, and becoming the new God.

>>86453544
I think we will get the backstory now. This is an important reveal.

>>86453544
He revealed who was sword though.

>>86453567
Boring.

>>86453376
>>86453413
dont respond. its a troll. everyone knows it already, no need to post it

>>86444586
Fuck you i'm not Aizen.

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>>86453622
My bad.

>>86453421
HM Arc should have been more interesting. There was no problem with anything else.

Actually, I firmly believe that only if he enviroment would'd been designed better, people would have had no problem with it.

It was missing atmosphere.

>>86444586
Why would you believe what one kid thinks after actually fighting Aizen for only the third time? It's pretty much guaranteed that Aizen's actual plan, foiled or not, has yet to be known.

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I just read this in hopes of some more keikaku happening!

>>86453616
>He revealed who was sword though.

that is the same with the quincies, we alredy knew even before mayuri said anything but it needed to be said

>>86443097 (OP)
>Are soul reapers and regular hollows even important anymore?
Soul reapers are the entire plot of the series still.

Hollows were just villains of the week that eventually got replaced by shinigami villains of the week, arrancar villains of the week, fullbringer villains of the week, and now quincy villains of the week.

>>86453724
Not just atmosphere. It was just a LONG series of fights, with barely anything larger going on. The only purpose it served was to trap some Shinjigami in Hueco Mundo while Aizen stormed Karakura Town and the SS. By the time I finished reading it it just felt hollow and like a huge waste of time.

Plus, the fact that every single damn Espada was defeated in the end was also bullshit, since they were supposedly even stronger than the Captains. They didn't even defeat one damn Captain--Aizen defeated more people in the span of 10 seconds than his entire Arrancar army did in the entire time they were around. I liked a lot of them as characters, but they virtually all got shafted and came off as pointless in the end.

>>86453604
>This is an important reveal.

yeah, like everything else I mentioned. I think we´ll see the backstory when Kumamura shows his upgraded bankai

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>>86444586
>So Aizen did all this shit because he couldn't find a play date? He's like that one nerdy kid in school that starts to hate everyone because he thinks everyone around him is too stupid and normal, while at the same time hating himself on the inside because he feels lonely.

No. He's that bright kid who is way too mature for his age and has a constant "think outside the box" worldview and ends up as some famous guy who everyone will quote.

And he saw himself in Ichigo.

>>86446830
God fuck that entire goddamn chapter, fuck Kubo and fuck this boring ass arc.

>>86453724
HM arc problems:

>Espada not being strong enough to beat some captains.
>Yammy being 0.
>Aizen having to beat everyone by himself because the Espada are useless.
>Butterfly.
>Aizen being beaten.
>Same rescue the girl shit.
>Not enough Vasto Lordes.
>Not having the Espada kill some useless Gotei 13 members.
>Yammamoto being a fucking dumbass and not bringing the fucking 4th squad.
>Unohana going to Hueco Mundo to heal some weak little shits.
>No arrancar army.

I did enjoy everything related to Ulquiorra.Clearly the best character from the whole Mexico arc.I remember when /a/ found out he was only the 4th and how hyped everyone was,then we get weaklings like Yammi and shit asspulls from the gotei into beating the guys like Halibel,Stark and Barragan.
The current arc looks great.

>>86454170
This explains as to why he was constantly annoyed by Urahara.He wanted Urahara to be his "friend".
I get Aizen.

>>86454100
Like I said. With atmosphere, I think people wouldn't have noticed all that. I came to think that after seeing how some fanbases work. If the series is in a polularity killing streak, people only notice the shit if there's no distraction. If the shit is in focus. As long as there's distraction the positive mood will be carried on.

>>86454279
Harribel was never beaten by Gotei and neither was Barragan.
Starrk got the worst opponents he could face.

>>86454279
ah well we saw the espada rankings were not true to their power. ulquiorra's second release was obviously the strongest. its likely stark was incredibly strong, but because of his nature he never went all out

>>86454170
>And he saw himself in Ichigo.

How? What do Ichigo and Aizen have in common? Ichigo is a little strong, but otherwise kinda stupid. He even admitted that himself when talking about his SS badge in the fullbring arc. Aizen was interested in Ichigo because he was the product of his experimentation.

Saying things like "he saw himself in Ichigo" makes it sound like your trying hard to sound deep, which is pretty much the exact same thing that ruined Aizen's character ( >>86444327 ) and has caused Ichigo to be a mopy faggot for so much of the series.

>>86454100
>since they were supposedly even stronger than the Captains.

They were. Arrururuurei, Zommari, and Noitora were the only espada to lose straightforward 1v1 fights. Everyone else was gangbanged and/or fucked over by a hax ability.

It starting sucking when every character other than ichigo became useless.

>>86454354
Yes.

And I would add that I think this was why he lost his powers too. He got mad that he pimped up Ichigo to near god level, and then Ichigo just depowered himself.

Hundreds of years of planning all gone.

Ichigo broke Aizen's favourite toy.
Himself.

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>>86454357
Trying to distract people with actual backgrounds wouldn't have made up for all the shit that was wrong with HM. Yes it would have been better, but it would still have been shit.

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>>86454432
>What do Ichigo and Aizen have in common?

Everything.

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Bleach was never good.

>>86454509
rekt

>>86454437
In the end every single one of them still lost, and didn't even manage to take down a single captain between all of them. And that's why it was bullshit.

>>86454568

Every shounen is tolerable before the powerlevel becomes a problem. Naruto was bearable at least.

Say what you want, but Bleach's OPs are fantastic

>>86454396
Harribel could control water.
I have no idea how she wasn't nb1.

She got beaten by a Captain who should have died(ice clone) but got resurected because of fangirls,2 weak ass vizards.

Barragan should have been killed by Soi Fong's bankai instead of having Hacchi lose an arm just to shock us.

Momo should have died
Iba should have died
Omaeda should have died
Love or Rose should have died
Komamura should have died
Lisa should have died

>>86454587
Frankly I don't now how could you expect good characters to die in a shonen, regardless of how hard the villains were hyped up.

That's not how good characters die in shonen. If they ever die, it can only be unexpected. They will never die when you are told to actively expect it.

You should know this much.

>>86454756
>She got beaten by a Captain who should have died(ice clone)
She wasn't beaten. She eventually broke his faggy ice flower prison and emerged unharmed. Aizen took her down.

Soi Fon's bankai could probably kill him, the first shot at least which was presumably stronger, if not for Respira.

>>86454756
Harribel wasn't actually beaten by Hitsugaya at least. It looked like she was, but she broke out of his ice on her own and then Aizen cut her down for being useless, like all the rest of the Espada.

Goddamn it was frustrating how useless the Espada and all the rest of the Arrancar were in the end.

>>86454897
>She eventually broke his faggy ice flower prison and emerged unharmed.

Wonderweiss broke her prison by screaming at it.

>>86454897
I guess he didn't lose to her because of plotarmor.

I'm still upset about being hyped for these Espada only to have them killed without doing a single important thing.

>>86454975
That scream was nothing but a "get serious" warning.

>>86455024
>Espada only to have them killed without doing a single important thing
>implying

You just wait...

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>>86454917
>she broke out of his ice on her own
actually wonderweiss released her; she was beaten

>>86454975
True. Either way, she was just imprisoned in a way similar to Yamamoto's fire prison.

>>86455024
They were pretty formidable foes who mostly required cheating, hax or gangbanging to take down.
Just because they weren't "Dragonball"-tier stronger than previous arc foes doesn't mean they weren't dangerous.

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>>86455108
Well we all know Grimmjow and Nel are going to do some shit in the new arc.

>mfw Grimmjow 2nd etapa.

>>86455108
>inb4 Harribel = Masaki

>>86455203
>>86455202
>mfw when i have no face

>>86454788
Beaten doesn't necessarily mean dead. Aizen beat Hitsugaya, Love, Shinji, Soi Fon, Lisa, Rōjūrō, Shunsui, and more, yet none of those fuckers died.

All "beaten" has to mean is getting hurt badly enough to be out of commission or having your Zanpakuto broken. I'm not complaining that more people need to die in Bleach. I'm complaining about how incredibly useless all the Espada and all the Arrancar were.

>>86455105
No it wasn't. Wonderweiss' scream was for breaking things (he used it to block Mashiro's cero a bit later too).

>>86455167
Not dangerous enough...
I remember when Hitsugaya said that 10 vasto lorde are more than enough to beat the Soul Society,well ,supposedly, 4 of them weren't able to do shit.I also remenber when A captain and 4 vice captain level people got beaten by fraccion.

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>>86455284
>my face when when

>>86455202
>Well we all know Grimmjow and Nel are going to do some shit in the new arc.

>tfw they'll reign as Queen and King of Hueco Mundo

>>86455310
They weren't actually useless. Aizen just decided to kill them to get on with his plan.

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>>86455203
>harribel
>halliber
>halley berry

>>86455167
We know the Espada were dangerous--that's the point. They were these great, huge, overpowered monsters who all got beaten or killed in the end without managing to even defeat a single captain. It doesn't matter that some of them were beaten in 2 on 1 fights, or by hax Zanpakuto abilities--it doesn't change the fact that in the end all that hype came to nothing and they were ultimately utterly pointless.

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>>86455310
>I'm complaining about how incredibly useless all the Espada and all the Arrancar were.

....but that was the plot.

Aizen agreed with your disappointment.

>>86455379
>Grimmjow and his whores.

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>>86455485

>>86455330
Though there is no solid proof, I believe only Espada 1 - 4 were Vasto Lorde before going Arrancar.

Also, Shinigami spew bullshit all the time because they don't know their stuff. Often they just repeat word of mouth.

>I also remenber when A captain and 4 vice captain level people got beaten by fraccion.
They all had limiters on them. When they got lifted Shinigami wrecked those Arrancars.

>>86455483
Wonderweiss beat Ukitake and Mashiro.

>>86455383
Name one thing they actually achieved.
>>86455485
Kubo could have prevented this,by writing better,really?,you're gonna have the Final Boss beat everyone.

>>86455383
Aizen got tired of that arc dragging out too.

Too bad his final fight arc went on for a billion chapters.

>>86455559
Maybe it's Kubo changing his mind and forgetting stuff.
Yeah,my bad,they had the limiters on.

>>86455383
They were pretty fucking pointless. All they were good for was luring Ichigo and some Captains to the Hueco Mundo, which Aizen might as well have done himself with his Zanpakuto hypnosis and some cardboard cutouts.

>>86455567
But I liked that. I was arealy tired of shonen clishés at that point. It was refreshing.

Normally you really get what was implied. That the Espada will ammount to shit and then they will take on Aizen while weakened and worn and that"s why they will lose. Or Aizen runs away.

Typical shonen plot. Almost blueprint-like.

I didn't expect Aizen to actually live up to his own bullshit and beat everyone. I thought it was just arrogance.

It was refreshing. It was new.

>>86455564
You're right. Wonderweiss also sealed Yamamoto's ability and helped take him out of commission as well. We officially have ONE useful Arrancar. The only one who actually accomplished anything was clinically retarded. Congratulations Espada, all of you combined were less useful than one retarded ten year-old.

>>86455685
>Maybe it's Kubo changing his mind and forgetting stuff.
Changing his mind? Maybe. Forgetting? Highly unlikely.
Still, I believe it's coherent with how he writes his characters though. There is literally no "wise old man" in the series. Everybody just knows parts of truths and doesn't share the important bits. Some lie, some hype, some simply lack the means to assess things because of their own flaws.
Even Aizen and Urahara, Royal Guards ("enlightened" characters) were surprised by some things and shown to miscalculate.

>>86455893
>Congratulations Espada, all of you combined were less useful than one retarded ten year-old.
Who was made retarded so that he could posses Imagine Breaker tier of ability.
Strawman.

>>86455796
And while I'm at it, I thought the same about Aizen's defeat as well.

Expectation: Countless chapters of powering up and "more final forms" until dramatic defeat.
Reality: Ichigo crubstomped Aizen.

It was refreshing. It was good exactly because it was anticlimatic.

Spoilers in a few hours?

>>86455796
Spending a solid hundred chapters on Arrancar and Espada and building them up only to have every single one of them get beaten in the end and accomplish nothing (except Wonderweiss) just so the big boss could beat everyone in the span of 5 minutes was not refreshing. It was bullshit. Aizen could have showed off and been amazing without having all his Espada eat shit and die.

And then Aizen himself had to go and get beaten by bullshit powerup asspulls by Ichigo.

>>86455893
Aizen's goal: Create Arrancar army in order to beat the Gotei 13 and create the King's Seal

>He only brings 3 generals and their soldiers to the final battle.

His army's accomplishments:
Wonderweiss: Sealed Yammamoto,beat Mashiro,Kensei and Ukitake.
Yammy: Nothing
Arroniro: Nothing
Szayel: Nothing
Zommari: Nothing
Grimmjow: Helped resurect the enemy
Nnoitora: "Teamkilled" Grimmjow
Ulquiorra: Lost because of plotkai,gave Ichigo a new mask.
Harribel:Nothing
Barragan:Nothing
Stark:Nothing

Aizen ends up beating everyone by himself.

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>>86456016
>It was good exactly because it was anticlimatic.

>>86456016
I guess me and Kubo were tired of seeing Aizen walk around like a faggot in Karakura town.
I was so fucking sick of Aizen's face.

>>86456151
This.
Kubo needs to stop with the fucking the trolling.

>>86456159
He created Arrancars so that he didn't have to deal with fuly mobilized Gotei 13, especially Yamamoto, with only Gin and Tousen.

The Soul Society arc changed it from a fun manga about Ghost Busting in Karakura town into DBZ everyone turning into Super Sayian power level 9000000000 retarded shonenshit

Go read Busou Renkin to see how Bleach should have been.

>>86456310
>only Gin and Tousen.

Understandable, since they also achieved nothing.

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>>86456151
It was refreshing for me.
I did not expect it.

I think you have stepped over the line and became a critic instead of a reader, analyzing the outcome of writing from the pov of the writer.

>>86456310
Well that didn't work so good now did it?

>Gin not killing Aizen in SS.

>>86456407
But Busou Renkin was just so...forgettable.

>>86454279
It's funny because half the things you said were rejected by Kubo's editor

>>86456459
It might have been forgettable, but at least it was great and the concept was solid the entire way through.

Bleach is a piece of shit now.

>>86456410
At least Gin cut Hiyori in half. That's at least 1 win.

>>86456486
Source mein nigger

>>86456533
Well yeah I would take Busou Renkin over bleach every day since the villain was just so fabulous but the main character just felt so generic.

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>>86456407
>Go read Busou Renkin to see how Bleach should have been.

I never understood this opinion.

There's already a Busou Renkin. There's no need for a Busou Renkin clone. It is a good thing that it did not become Busou Renkin. If you like Busou Renkin that much then read Busou Renkin. Fuck.

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>>86456542
>tfw you realize that she didn't die because they wanted to make Gin seem like a good guy in the end.

I dropped that shit after 3 episodes years ago. What a waste of time.

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>>86456542
>she's cut in half
>but she's fine now

>>86456616
>and yet I'd gladly waste more to post in Bleach thread

>>86456616
Wut

>>86456602
Maybe it's because the two leads of Busou Renkin resemble Ichigo and Rukia.

>>86456407
>The Soul Society arc changed it from a fun manga about Ghost Busting in Karakura town

That arc was easily as generic as anything that followed.

>>86456602
>I never understood this opinion.
Busou Renkin and Bleach shares a lot of things in its general plot.

Girl comes to town somehow protagonist gets superpowers from her and now its time to ghost busting/hunt monsters.

The difference being that Busou Renkin stayed true to its own ideas, gave screentime to every character, didn't start flooding the manga with thousands of unnecessary pieces of shit and never actually turned against itself.

When people make the comparison they're saying "look at the characters that were/are in Karakura town and realize how much you can do with it without going full retard and sending people back through time/to mexico/etc". They're not saying they should be the same.

Now stop being autistic.

>>86456429
Not expecting something alone doesn't make it good. Execution matters too, and it was pretty bad in this case:

The all-powerful Aizen was beaten with a stupid powerup (the 5 millionth one Ichigo's gotten in the series), and the supposed dramatic sacrifice of Ichigo losing his Shinigami powers was bullshit as well because every person who read it knew he was going to get them back next arc. We all knew Aizen was going to lose, and it was just a matter of how bullshit it was going to be, and it was pretty bullshit.

>>86456854
>>86456701
So in other words you were shipping the two main characters in Busou Renkin and you were sad when the series ended and you wanted your dose of Busou Renkin from Bleach.

I will not tell you my opinion about that shit. You can make three guesses.

>>86456791
I guess in the end the worship of pre-SS arc comes down to just a mere "I liked YYH and I amsad that YYH ended" too.

>>86453983
I see this posted a lot. What is keikaku?

>>86457010
I didn't ship anything in Busou Renkin at all. I'm just saying that the circumstances and dynamic regarding the two main characters are similar, you sperglord.

>>86457042
TL: keikaku means plan

>>86457042
Something that all goes according to.

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>>86457042
guess

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>>86457010
>the themes and all of these concepts could have been used instead of turning it into DBZ
>U R ANGRY SHIPPER LMAO XDDDDDD

>>86457042
You are just baiting right?

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>>86456854
>look at the characters that were/are in Karakura town and realize how much you can do with it without going full retard and sending people back through time/to mexico/etc

Ordinary (actually special) guy meets tsundere superpowered girl who introduces him to a whole new secret world of superpowers, in which he now has to fight, while she secretly crashes at his place.

Seriously, is that really that great? How many times have we seen that?

After Soul Society arc.

>>86457188
>while she secretly crashes at his place.
Actually Tokiko rents her own apartment.

Kazuki thought she was staying in a cardboard box.

>>86457268
>Asking for dubs
>>>/out/

>>86457268
>Dub
>Bleach
>Wako mundo
>Wanting to watch DBZ
>Posting 3D
No

Spoilers, source: baidu


草莓接近剑神告诉他的剑准备好，但比以前有所不同。
春水被告知的重要访客。
驹村鞠躬和叔叔告诉他准备训练，以净化自己。
春水访客是灵魂王。

Strawberry close Jian Shen told his sword ready, but different than before.
Spring was told important visitors.
Komamura bow and uncle told him to prepare training to purify themselves.
Spring visitors is the soul king.

google translated

>>86457042
>What is keikaku?
dosen't know what keikaku is
Just as planned

>>86457330
I wish Rukia would have done the same.

>>86456542
>>86456622
Speaking of whom. What the fuck happened to Gin?

>>86457330
I'm not the guy talking about Busou Renkin.

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>>86456622
Despite being useless in a fight orihime has BS mary sue healing powers. She heals an arrancar who had her head and a significant amount of her torso disintegrated.

>>86457188
>>86457330
Also Kazuki was never special. He worked his fucking ass off. Constantly.

>>86457477
People doubt that Orihime is a Mary Sue?

>>86457366
confirmed on baidu, seems legit. awww shit, we gonna see the soul king in full !!

>>86457477
That's really interesting and all, but Hiyori was healed by Unohana. And in any case ,that has absolutely no bearing on the point that Gin was able to achieve nothing.

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>>86457423
Oh christ. I really liked Gin even, but that's hilarious.

>>86457531
He was still pretty forgettable and dull

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>>86443097 (OP)
Massive pile of shit? Bitch what are you even reading? Pic related for this retard

>>86457366
Better translation:


Ichigo is told his sword is ready, but is not the same as before.
Shunsui is told he has a very important visitor.
Konamuras uncle tells him to train inorder to purify himself.
Shunsui's visitor is the soul king.

It's pretty typical for shonen to follow this pattern.
>Not so well known shonen jump writer makes a good story.
>Becomes international smash hit.
>Author has no idea where the fuck he was going with it.
>Tries to make it last as long as possible.
>Infinite money.

>>86457626
I doubt you ever read it.

>>86457629
>4koma
>old pic
Seriously?

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>>86457389
My current captcha.

>>86457646
>still no Rukia

>>86457704
I watched the anime, is there a notable difference between it and the manga?

THE HEART

>>86457366
Seems pretty boring except for the soul king.

>>86457629
> Plot twists = good

>>86457815
Most of those aren't even twists.

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>>86457815
Stop being Tsundere, you want to be Kubo'd.

>>86457366
Hope this is real, I want to learn more about the soul king. maybe he is suggesting an invasion or giving shunsui a warning.

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>>86457646
>Ichigo is told his sword is ready, but is not the same as before.

It's probably going to fire attacks which are called "getsuga tensho", but which are spelled with different kanji!

>>86457629
That's awful and you should feel awful

The single episode fillers in the anime are pretty much better than the manga.

And when fillers are better than the source material, it's really time to reconsider.

>>86457972
It's a pretty sad state of affairs when Bleach fillers get better animation quality then most other series.

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>>86457972
>The single episode fillers in the anime are pretty much better than the manga.

Oh yeah, that one where Ikkaku puts a wig on was truly the masterpiece of our times.

>>86457815
>Twists

Nigga 3/4 of that shit was foreshadowed

>>86457771
Anime are always inferior to manga. Anime cut out small parts that make or break characters.

>>86458049
Twists can be foreshadowed.

>>86457646
>purify himself
>bleach
>komamura becomes man character.

>>86458083
Well I guess I will read the manga, not I disliked the Anime in the first place I just felt that it was a little bit forgettable.

>>86458049
>>86457920
>>86457909
>>86457888
i actually like this arc,and it doesnt even have that many plot twists just for the sake of shocking us.

>>86458163
That's a perfectly valid opinion to have.

>>86458186
It's better than Hueco Mundo and the Fullbring arc at the very least. But that's not really an accomplishment.

>>86458043
It was better than the Heart, "I didn't want to win this way!", ButterflAzien, Gin's Bankai, Espada's fights and lots of other insipid bullshit.

Bleach is bad and you should feel bad for liking it.

>>86458267
>Bleach is bad

Clearly since I said that terrible anime fillers are not better than the manga, I must think that Bleach is really, really good.

LOGIC.

>>86458267
It was better than Bounts. And that's about it.

>>86458267
If you managed to encounter the worst translations, worst enviroment, and worst mood while reading Bleach, that's not really the fault of the manga.

I understand hating the Ichixhime shippers, but why all the hate for Orihime herself?

Are people expecting her to be anything other than a teenage girl with emotional issues, thrust into crazy life or death situations? I mean, when you compare her to the other female characters she looks bad, but they're all decades older than her, and they're all trained soldiers to boot.

>>86458371
Tripfucker in charge of good taste.

>>86458523
>I mean, when you compare her to the other female characters she looks bad, but they're all decades older than her, and they're all trained soldiers to boot.

Now explain how come she's so much worse than Tatsuki.

Kubo should have had Tatsuki go with Ichigo, and just left Orihime as the school ditz.

>>86458523
shes not that bad a character but has been useless for a long time. she would be the cop-out choice for ichigos heart

>>86458527
>>86458267
Throw shit elsewhere. Your lack of emorional involvement is showing. You just want to talk to people.

>>86458523
>Are people expecting her to be anything other than a teenage girl with emotional issues, thrust into crazy life or death situations?
Well, yes. Because she used to be. see >>86450224
She was once competent and brave. Then she became a babbling retard with no use other than filling panelspace.

>>86458523
Because she is a clumsy annoying idiot?

That on top of being useless kinda makes her shit in my book.

>>86458523
This. Orihime is one of the best characters of the series. She's very well-written and well-rounded. She's endearing, realistic, caring, and strong. She even compliments someone who she sees as a love rival (which is frankly debatable).
I think the hatred for Orihime is the standard hatred for female characters that the shonen fanbase seems to harbor.

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>>86458523
>but why all the hate for Orihime herself?
Most of it is due to landwhales though.

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>>86458653
agreed. Tatsuki is a better match for ichigo

>>86458653
Probably should have. Not sure what Kubo was going for when he gave her powers and not Tatsuki. She seemed like a good choice at the time and I was disappointed that she ended up having no role after the initial story arc.