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that's nice
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>Sengoku Youko
But that's a monthly series...

I do agree though.
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>Nardo
Shitty juvenile HxH ripoff
>Clorox
Shitty poorly written Yu Yu Hakushi ripoff
>Fairy Tail
Shitty, poorly written One Piece ripoff
>Kenichi
Shitty generic fanservice
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>>84679172 (OP)
But there's better battle shounen then those
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I like HxH the best so I'm cool with that OP
By the way, already finished manga don't count? because Hoshi no Samidare should definitely be there.
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>>84679546
Gash Bell is good but it's not HxH level
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where's seven deadly sins?
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I think that i can agree with that.
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>>84679172 (OP)
>Liking shounen
>Ever
Once you kids have seen more than 50 shows, you'll realize that shounen is all the same shit.
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>>84679691
So is shoujoshit and josei is even worse than that
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>>84679546
Name one that is currently running.
>>84679591
>>84679617
Not including finished manga.

Also HnS is considered Seinen.
>>84679647
It's only 26 chapters in. And even then it's good, but not good enough to be god tier. It's well written and fun but it's still pretty generic.
>>84679691
>HURR AM I FITTING IT YET!
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From its debut (Issue 14, 1998) to present day (Issue 16, 2012), Hunter x Hunter has been absent from Weekly Shonen Jump 332 times.
The Chimera Ant arc lasted 134 chapters over 402 issues of Jump; that averages out to one-third of a chapter per week.
The longest hiatus remains 79 straight missed issues (2006-2007).
The series’ record for absences in a calendar year is still 2009, when it missed 46 of 48 issues.
There have been 671 issues of Weekly Shonen Jump since HxH began; Togashi has missed over 49% of them.
Given 48 issues of Jump in one calendar year, that’s 6.92 publishing years missed.
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>>84679790
>HnS is considered seinen
Huh, really?
Well, you guys should read it, it's amazing.
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Fujoshi detected. I'm surprised you didn't list Reborn.
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>>84679756
I like Chihayafuru, fuck you.
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>>84679172 (OP)
That more or less works.
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>>84679756
True enough, that's why I only read seinen.
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I think Kenichi is good and enjoyable
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>>84679844

Yes, it ran in a seinen magazine.

It's definitely shonen material, though.
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I hate the way Magi has gone in the last few months. I think this is no surprise because I've been calling it garbage for a while now. Why is this the case though? What went wrong? I think the fact is that the manga has lost its way and is trying to pander to an audience it doesn't need to, and is hence rapidly losing its unique identity.

It wasn't about characters fighting each other, but rather about journeying together to discover more about the world together. The author created three solid perspectives for this - Aladdin the Magi whose mysterious origins are a window to the nature of this world, Alibaba the begger prince whose life experiences and ambitions form the foundation of a potential world leader who could be a force of good, and Mor the slave warrior of a scattered tribe who seeks to discover her heritage and change the world as the world changed her.

This was all great stuff. But somehow, after tons of build-up and using all 3 characters to expand the scope of the world by going their separate ways, the manga completely drops the ball by abandoning all that in favor for the worst sort of "world event" possible. The laziest and most uninteresting sort. A shounen "war" arc which isn't really a war but rather a few named characters beam spamming everything to show how powerful they are. Not just for 5 chapters, not just for 10 chapters, it just goes on and on.

Characters posing, random explosions, large number of unnamed "soldiers" looking in horror and going "OMG THEY ARE SO STRONG!". This is stupid. It's not why I started reading Magi, and it's not why I continued reading Magi. It's the complete opposite. To make things worse, it completely abandoned the potential for having an actual interesting war arc where 3 characters represent 3 different perspectives, and actually show the progression of a war and valid opinions and strategies, instead of being Hero units just shattering the battlefield.
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>>84679647
In the too new to judge list.
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>>84679919
- We haven't seen Mor in almost 40 chapters. That's about 10 months.

- Alibaba's training and experiences in the Colosseum amount to nothing because he's just some Super Saiyan armored dude now. Plus he had nothing to contribute at all to the Relm perspective, and basically just hopped on the boat to get back into Aladdin's pants.

- All the characters they have introduced along the way serve no purpose other than to be flashy new armored dudes shouting special attacks and creating explosions while posing. It's stupid and boring. There is no story progression either because they're just fighting some intangible force created for the excuse of action. There are no longer any narrative objectives or interesting story elements to look forward to in this arc.

- The manga has completely lost the plot and thrown away all the interesting things about itself in favor of becoming the generic competition which it tried to set itself apart from at the start. Wasteful, tragic, and pathetic honestly.
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>>84679810
It hurts
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>>84679790
Considering this board is primarily shounen loving 15 year olds, surely pretending to like shounen would be me acting like I wanted to fit in? Oh no, I guess you shounentards have a persecution complex. Funny when you consider how many narutards are out there, you guys are definitely in the majority of western anime fans.
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>>84679810
And?
>>84679844
I'm sure everybody on /a/ already has.
>>84679878
Reborn! is objective shit. Not to mention it's a finished series.
>>84679919
I already explained to you in /pol/ 2 nights ago why you are wrong and stupid. Just because you had the wrong idea about what the manga was about doesn't mean it "changed".
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>>84679810
God fucking dammit you lazy piece of shit Togashi.
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I agree

people will probably shit on One Piece though
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>>84679691

Most genres boil down to a few easily-recognizable tropes. That doesn't mean it's not enjoyable.

You probably think your favorite shows are distinct pieces of art, pleb.
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>>84680031
>Godtiertaste
>Implying most of that list isn't complete shit
>Beezlebub
>8
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>84680098
Yeah, but the people who shit on One Piece are the people who have never read it.
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>>84680146
Have you ever read Beelzebub? Explain how it is shit in any way please.

Also, please enlighten me on how most of my reading list is shit.
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>>84680098
Tht's to be expected. It's very popular and has long had ties with Naruto and Bleach for a long time.
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>>84680138
>tropes
>>>/tumblr feminism/
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>>84679172 (OP)
I wouldn't quite put Ken Ichi on the same level as shit like Fairy Tail, Bleach and Naruto but other than that OP actually knows his shit
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>>84680146
>Beelzebub
>Shit
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>84679691
When you see more than 50 battle shounen you realize most of them ain't.

more than 100 manga period you realize all types of manga have their cliches

more than 100 or every medium you realize that's the case with all mediums

and that was when I to stopped worrying and learn to love the tournament arcs.
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>>84680220
You a fan of baby dick, mate?
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All battle shonen is shit.
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>>84680288
I disagree
some are quite good.
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I've read a lot of Battle Manga, and I have to say, HxH doesn't deserve anywhere near the praise it gets on /a/. As far as currently running stuff goes, it's high tier when it isn't on hiatus (not that it has much competition anyway), but as a whole, it's really not that great.
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dbz pl0x
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>>84679172 (OP)
I still haven't read Kenichi.
Guess I should start.
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>>84680342
I disagree, it's without a doubt the best.
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>>84680245
When you've seen and read as many anime and manga like me, you realize that the perceived 'differences' between shounen are nothing compared to that of the seinen. Sure you can read Naruto and One Piece and see the minor setting differences, but realizing that the plot is identical is impossible for shounenfags limited intelligence. Hence why they are aimed at 'shounen' (which means male child in japanese)
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>>84680288
>Hunter x Hunter
>Sengoku Youko
>Fullmetal Alchemist
>JoJo Part 2
>JoJo Part 4
>Gash Bell
>Psyren
>Shaman King
>Shit
Why hello Sir Ruseman.
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>>84680342

>high tier when it's not on hiatus

It's shit when it's running in the magazine, too. Only worthwhile thing is the tanks.
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>>84679617
Gash Bell IS HxH level. And to be honest, I find it more interesting.
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>>84680280
No, I'm a fan of humor and fun. You clearly are a fan of strawman though mate.
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>>84680342
>I HATE IT BECAUSE IT'S POPULAR
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>>84680399
HxH is the only battle manga where the anime adaptation is better than the manga.
Togashi is a lazy fuck
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>>84680342
So edgy mate, don't cut yourself on the brim of your fedora.
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>>84679172 (OP)
Hello Caleb. I take it your efforts to get Naruto banned on here have failed yet again.
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>>84680342
I'm reading HxH and not really liking it but have no question why other people do.

Thing about Tagashi series is that he's usually doing different things with his series to the point the arcs tend to go into different genres. Helps that the characters are likable as well.
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>>84680410
Eh no.
Gash Bell is fun and very well wrtitten. But it's nothing compared to the writing, atmosphere, complexity, depth, and execution of HxH.
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>>84679172 (OP)
>Magi

You've invalidated your argument, sir.
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>>84680509
How far are you into it?
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Fixed.
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>>84680551
>Implying Magi is in any way bad
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>>84680390
You could argue that all stories are essentially the same. One Piece and Naruto are similar because you have X character who wants to become Y for Z reason, but that's such a broad statement that you could apply it to practically everything.
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>>84680562
Nigga, don't even dare try and claim that a Mizukami series is bad.
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>One Piece
>good
It's on par with MLP in terms of the quality of what Oda writes.
OP confirmed for pissfag
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>>84680390
Seinen and Josei are less cliched than their Shounen and Shojo counterparts but not that much

being targeted to adults means they are already used to things so you can't use the same bells and whistles, so you use different bells and whistles.

good manga is good manga no matter what type of manga it is.
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>>84680638
>I've never read something but because it's popular I'll just say it's shit so everybody can see how cool and edgy I am
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I smell pork, does anyone else smell pork in this thread?
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I don't even know why I started Hunter Hunter. I should have waited until it finished.
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>>84680623
All his series are shit.

All entry level garbage with terrible stories, forced drama, little character development. killing off characters with no personality is so mature and cool.
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>>84680523
>But it's nothing compared to the writing, atmosphere, complexity, depth, and execution of HxH
I haven't laughed that hard since back when I was a little girl.
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As of the most recent chapter AssClass is now a battle manga, so shouldn't it be added to the grand 4?
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>>84680717
It took more than like 50 post before someone attacked One Piece.

makes me question if this is really /a/.
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>>84680734
Togashi is going to die before he finishes HxH
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>>84680702
For goodness sakes stop using the word "edgy" until you know what it means.
>>>/v/
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>>84680702
sup /v/. piss off, faggot
Also I do read One Piece, but only because I've spent so much time on it I might as well see it through to the end.
And reading it does give me an edge when handling unrepentant fanboys such as yourself.
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HxH is the only good battle shounen.
Jojo and Berserk are the only good battle seinen.
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>>84680824
his point is that you are trying to look cool and controversial when you really aren't.

like one of them angsty teenagers.
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I wonder what would have happened if Akira Toriyama continued Dragon Ball in the way Goku was during his normal state against Piccolo Jr.

And then continue to expand on his adventures.
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>>84680749
>>84680750
Ironic shitpostposting is still shitposting.
>>84680756
Just because Nagisa pulled a Gon does not mean it's now a battle shonen.
>>84680796
>Togashi is only 47 years old.
>Japanese people live a long time
>The series is almost over as the only things left are the Dark Continent, Jairo, and the Ryodan conclusion in Meteor City
>He releases about 20 chapters a year
You idiots are hilarious. Togashi will finish the series before he dies. It might be a while but it will end eventually.
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>>84680903
Go kill yourself, you waste of oxygen
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>>84680903
>HxH is the only good battle shounen
>Isn't even close to as good as YYH was
>Isn't even close to any Battle Manga that came out before it
Top. Lel.
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>>84680926
That's not ironic shitposting
it's regular shitposting
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>>84680903
>HxH is the only good battle shounen.
You forgot Sengoku Youko as well
>Jojo and Berserk are the only good battle seinen.
You forgot Kingdom and Biscuit Hammer,
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>>84680909
And he's wrong, I just want you faggots to fuck off and leave /a/ because you're clearly not welcome here.
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It's all the same shit. However, we will fix it.

Naruto > One Piece
HunterXHunter > Bleach
Fairy tail > Magi yes, that's right
Kenichi=Sengoku Youko
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>>84680983
>Naruto > One Piece
>Naruto over anything
No.
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>>84680983
Fuck off narushit
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>>84680968
>Isn't even close to as good as YYH was
Except YYH is incredibly mediocre. It's just a by the numbers battle shonen with good characters. Not to mention the final arc was an abortion. HxH is better than YYH in literally every single way.
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>>84680983
>Naruto > One Piece
I don't even like wan piss but that's wrong.
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>>84680926
Mizukami fanboys really are delusional.
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>>84680976
What's so good about Kingdom? Heard about it but never checked it out yet.
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>>84680983
It's like you hate logic
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>>84680390
dont even pretend like you are an expert. youre just trying hard to establish a category you can look down upon.
the fact that you think all shonen is the same just shows how new you are to manga in general.

the fact that you see the need to explain what shonen means on /a/ also shows how new you are.
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>>84680909
People have differing opinions.
Disliking One Piece is not edgy nor controversial nor "cool".
I just have different tastes.
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>one piece
>better than bleach
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>>84681019
>2013
>Still not realizing that Naruto is actually better than a decent amount of battle manga out there
>Still think Bleach is better than Naruto
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>>84680983
>Naruto
>Good in any way
No.
>Fairy Tail
>Good In Any Way
>Better than Magi
I'm sorry but what?
>Kenichi
>Equal to a Mizukami series
Ah, you're just a poor troll.
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>>84681086
>Defending Naruto
Reported
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>>84681086
>Implying I implied anything about Bleach
Look at this ass damaged Narushit do damage control.
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Not a big fan of the magi manga. Bleach manga is more interesting imo.
inb4 massive hate
but that is my honest opinion.
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>>84681059
Great art, great pacing, good characters, good plot, and just pretty good. It's a real world series but with the pacing of a battle shonen. I'd recommend it.
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>>84681019
Yes.
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>>84681086
Naruto is objective shit.
What the hell are you smoking?
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>>84679172 (OP)
I certainly wouldn't disagree.
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>>84681086
Do you just completely lack taste?
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>>84681043
So you've never read YYH before right?
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>>84679691
Once you neckbeards watch more than 100 shows you'll realize all LN adaptations of high school romcom harems are the same shit.
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>>84681160
>Bleach manga is more interesting imo
How can something with no plot, a complete Gary-Sue as the main character, and asspulls and retcons up the wazoo be more interesting than /pol/ The Manga?
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>>84679756
>So is shoujoshit and josei is even worse than that
What do you have against good romance? Do you like otaku pandering shit?
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>>84681234
Go back and read it without your nostalgia glasses. YYH is decent but not by any means a masterpiece.
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How long is Magi currently? I need something new to read and it sounds cool.
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>>84680983
>Naruto over Bleach
>Fairy Tail over Magi
Nope.
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I wish I could enjoy One Piece, I just hate Luffy so much.
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>>84681086
But Bleach is better than Naruto you ass blasted narutard.
>>>/q/
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>>84680042
I'd rather have him take his time than rush and fuck it up on purpose like the last half of YYH.
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>>84680509
If you're at greed island and still don't like it, then well maybe you just have bad tastes
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>HxH
>battle shounen
Oh man, we haven't seen a battle in what, 4 years? And Netero vs Meruem was a one-sided pummeling that ended with a pseudo-nuke going off.
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>>84681281
>shoujoshit
>not otaku

there are such thing as female otaku and shoujo really does pander to them.
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>>84681346

He's a lot better during and after the Alabasta arc.
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>>84681314
It's getting pretty close to chapter 200 and it's also Shonen Sunday's flagship series. Also, a new spin-off series that is centered around the big bad as a child just started up as well.
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>>84681310
I read HxH first. It's literally a joke compared to YYH.
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>>84681385
True. I honestly wouldn't call HxH a battle shonen. Hell, the series was relatively battle free up until the Ant arc.
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>>84681314
It's on it's 182nd chapter.
Avoid the anime because it fucked up a lot of things.
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>>84681346
It's hinted he's a lot more smarter than you give him credit for.
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>>84681450
You clearly just completely lack taste then.
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>>84681450
>It's literally a joke compared to YYH.
Your brain is defective.
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>>84679172 (OP)

No love for ZKC.

That hurts.
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>>84681385
>>84681479
By far the two stupidest posts in this thread.
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Rurouni Kenshin is the greatest battle shouenen ever.
Prove me wrong.
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>>84681491
>more smarter
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>>84681450
see>>84680558
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>>84681314
It's on chapter 182 and it's honestly really good.
The only issue is it's probably the only manga that /pol/ also reads (they even have Magi threads over there) so sometimes the Magi threads on here get infested by /pol/ posters.
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>>84681513
Says the person who thinks HxH is better than YYH.
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>>84681550
well I'm certainly not, but he is.
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>>84681592
It is, both are good but YYH has some piss poor arcs
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>>84681532

That's because it's above that.
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>>84681549
HnK is better.
But that's it
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>>84681592
Yu Yu Hakusho was just battle after battle after battle. Not to mention the end of the Sensui arc and the entire Three Kings arc were absolutely horrible.
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>No Toriko
Plebs.
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>>84681568
>it's probably the only manga that /pol/ also reads
I'm afraid I know why.
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>>84681549
Realistically speaking it would be Dragon Ball given it's influence and popularity.
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>>84681549
The Violinist of Hameln is better.
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>>84681707
HnK copy
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>>84681635
The Majority of HxH is just one piss poor arc.
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>>84681310
>Go back and read it without your nostalgia glasses.
Not the guy you're arguing with, but I read it once when I watched the TV series, then once again within the last year.

If you want to say the CB and 3 Kings sagas were bad, I agree. But the first half, the characters throughout and the close we got at the end were fantastic. They even gave us a nice OVA years later.

The understated but still present and relevant romance in YYH is leagues better than the shit romance we see in most genres now.
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>>84681568
They seriously do?

What about..JOHJ?
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>>84681731
Is it. I need to pick that up
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>>84681568
>it's probably the only manga that /pol/ also reads
/pol/ here. And i can vouch for that. I mean, with how Al Sarmen is clearly based around the Jewish Illuminati conspiracy theories, and how the Balbadd arc was one huge Libertarian preaching circlejerk it's kind of hard not for us to get into the series. And don't even get me started on Dumblejew.
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>>84681693
SJ staff pls go.
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>>84681484
>Avoid the anime because it fucked up a lot of things.
It's not that long and it does some stuff well.

Mor is fucking love.
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>>84681740
Too many words for you plebeian?
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Lol Bleach. How long has Ichigo died and revived now?
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>>84681773
Yep. They seriously do.
And I haven't seen any TerraFormars threads on /pol/, but I wouldn't be surprised if they popped up in the future. Hell, it took a long time for /pol/ to hop on the Magi bandwagon so who knows how long it would take for them to jump on TF as well.
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>>84679172 (OP)
>One Piece
>Good
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>>84681687
>Not to mention the end of the Sensui arc
Going full DBZ mode was the only thing that made Sensuis arc at least enjoyable. He could have been a decent interesting villian earlier on, but the backtracking they did with Yusukes character and ability level during that entire arc were so stupid I couldn't handle it.
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>>84681549
I like you anon
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>>84681693
Toriko is okay but it's not god tier. Not to mention it's been really devolving into powerlevels and inconsistency ever since the end of the Soup arc.
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>>84681266
I've read both series.
The comedy in Magi got really dry for me.
I look forawrd to the next chap of bleach more than Magi because if anything kubo can write a cliffhanger.
And the powers in magi are kinda 'meh'.
naybe its just because I've just investes do much time into bleach that I want closure and more depth.
plus the current arc is really cool.
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>>84681902

Have you actually read One Piece?
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>>84681876
Once.
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>>84681266
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Bleach, despite all its flaws and shortcomings is perfectly consistent and retcons simply do not exist.
Ichigo is just strong as hell and a unique snowflake, always has been, he only got stronger.
I understand if this conflicts with your archetypical weak shounen MC who grows strong over time due to his nakama.
I do agree with you on Sengoku Youko being better though
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>>84681896
What else does /pol/ like? Don't they like Litchi Hikari Club? That shit's gruesome as fuck, but the art is very gorgeous. Did they have Gargantia shitstorms?
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>>84681859
>Too many words
>HxH
Ha?
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So HnK until Raoh's death still holds the title as king right?
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>>84681964
People kept telling the plot was going to get good, it never did.
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>>84681955
I kinda understand. Magi feels lacking in a way I can't really put my finger on.
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>>84681975
So Ichigo being a Quincy, Vizard, Fullbringer, Shinigami, Hollow AND Human isn't an retcon or asspull how? Bleach is a poorly written piece of shit with no plot and you just need to accept it.
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>>84682036
yes
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>>84680983
>we will fix it
>creates shit list

8/10 Very subtle.
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>>84682048

How far are you into it?
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>>84681990
I just said that /pol/ is the only manga they discuss.
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>>84681600
Nope, Luffy is still dumb as dicks
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>one piece
>not akame ga kiru
shit taste detected
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>>84682048
see>>84680558
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>>84682021
Are you trolling? HxH is basically just a book with occasional pictures with how many text dumps there are.
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>>84679172 (OP)
shit 8 ?? shit 8
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>>84681990
>Don't they like Litchi Hikari Club?
I think you're grossly overestimating them.
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>>84682036
HnK in general holds the title of king. The first part just further cements it as holding that title.
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why is never beelzebub in one of those top something lists
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>>84679172 (OP)

Fairy Tail is actually really good. It isn't the best series in terms of depth of characters/plot etc, but it's fun to watch. Good music, great fight scenes, decent fillers (except Daphne) + mildly funny. Wouldn't call it a masterpiece, but I definitely enjoy it.

>inb4 elitist faggots get on my ass for being mainstream
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>>84682134
AgK is good but it's not god tier (not yet at least). Not to mention it's only 36 chapters in.
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>>84682134
too many waifu wars
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>>84682073
They are explaining all of it right now, you are just some retard that can't understand.
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Umi wa mite iru. Sekai no hajimari mo~
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>>84682166
Beelzebub isn't a battle manga. I love the fuck out of Beelzebub but it's a gag manga.
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>>84682166
He's in the Toriko level.
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>>84682177
Holy shit my sides just erupted like never before.
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>>84682073
It isn't a retcon, or an asspull because it does not contradict anything that has been said, or done in the past.
More to the point, some of it is hinted throughout the series.
From the very beginning of Bleach we've known that his mother had powers, we even thought that was where his shinigami potential came from.
Now we finally know what kind of power user she was.
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>>84682136
HxH never struck me as wordy.
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>>84682073
>Quincy, Vizard, Fullbringer, Shinigami, Hollow AND Human
Most of these overlap in some way. A Vizard is a Shinigami/Hollow hybrid, and a Fullbringer is a human who has powers derived from Hollows.

Hell, Fullbringers and Quincies are required to be humans by nature, and he doesn't even have Fullbringer powers anymore. Since he doesn't use his mask, we can assume he doesn't have that aspect anymore either.
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>>84682177
Is Fairy Tail the only series you've ever read? It's just an incredibly poorly written One Piece ripoff that is filled with fanservice. Hell, even most of it's fanbase recognizes that it's objective shit nowadays with all the ridiculous asspulls and it's repetitive nature.
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>battle shonen shonen
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Why don't any of you plebs know Fujita?
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>>84682108
The flashbacks shown he had common sense but when you can punch out godzilla and was trained by a hot-blooded shounen protag and Vice Admiral Teddy Roosevelt, you tend not to use it.
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>Talking about Bleach
>Not just dismissing it as the shit it is

Just get the fuck out, seriously.
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>>84679172 (OP)
>Shonen
>Different
How can nakama powered fun be any worse than nakama powered fun
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>>84682177
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>>84682358
We do faggot. Everyone already read U&T and is awaiting more Karakuri Circus chapters to come out.
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>>84680983
In your dreams faggot.
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>>84682293
He does have it, you cannot ever reverse Hollowfication and his Fullbring is still present despite Ginjo supposedly stealing it.
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>>84682429
That's what you'd think, but...
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>>84682358
You mean the author? What has he written that we should know of?
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>>84682358
Ushio to Tora, Karakuri Circus, Moonlight Act, Bakegyamon and Springland, Anything else?
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>>84682399
Noone is denying is shit.
It's just alot better than Naruto
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>>84682220
>beelzebub is not a battle manga

sure
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>>84682399
>It's shit
Why?
>Because I say so.
And every time you're told to present arguments against Bleach you fall flat on your face.
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>>84682497
That isn't fun and they have shit nakama levels.
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>>84680031
>grading unfinished series
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>>84681314
182 chapters, went on a 4 week brake on a major fucking cliffhanger though.....even oda wasnt that mean when he went on time skip. But its been really well written so far. So i have to allow her.
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What about ZKC?
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>>84682628
This is by the same mangaka of Hoshi no Samidare right?
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>>84682478
Fair enough.

He's still just Shinigami, Quincy, and Hollow at his core though. All his abilities are just different applications of those three.
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>>84682565
>Poor direction (Le back attack xD)
>Poor story telling (You're an X Ichigo, and a thumpin good one!)
>No backgrounds
>Bad artwork that makes Naruto look good in comparison
>Dull cast of characters
Really son?
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>>84682565
>>84682565
why is bleach shit

because aside form the ichigo vs that dude that makes his sword petals and some of the kempachis fights, all of its battles are boring and in most of the,m you cant eve tell wats happening
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>>84682562
Having occasional battles does not make it a battle manga. See>>84680185
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>>84682442

would chuckle again/10

>>84682319

Never said it was well written, I just mentioned that I enjoy it (for reasons listed). Yeah, the plot - if you can call it that - have been done a million times before. Not every series has to be a suspense filled masterpiece. It's not serious in the slightest, which is partly what makes it enjoyable.
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>>84682660
No enough battle shonen manga, or not like Mikami.
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>>84682665
Yes. It's Sengoku Youko
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>>84682565
It's the same level of shit as naruto, darkness everywhere, takes itself way to fucking serious
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>>84682562
I guess you consider AssClass and Spirit Circle battle manga as well right?
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>>84680342

I say the same thing and everyone calls me a troll. It's honestly not any better than early Naruto.

And imo stuff like FMA is way better than it.
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>>84682596
You can always change your rating, you know;
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>>84682596
I go back and grade them lower or drop them if they become shit.
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>>84682628
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU I HATE YOU!
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>>84682689
In all honesty Bleach's art makes it easier to keep up with plot. Naruto is a fucking clusterfuck, hard to tell what's going on.
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>>84682442
give this guy A FUCKING MEDAL LMAO!
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>>84682628
You will never have your waifu sacrifice her body to rescue two infant babies and then become a rock...
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>>84682689
This post is entirely composed of buzzwords with no actual substance behind them.

You could use this for pretty much every manga in existence.
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>>84682690

Really? I thought most of the fights between Ichigo and the Mexican Hollow niggers were pretty cool. The Aizen fight was kind of a let down though. The faggot comes out with god powers and doesn't really do anything except use a long black line of death attack. I was expecting an even fight but that was just one sided slaughter.
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Ruroni Kenshin is shit
Hellsing is shit
Trigun is shit
Any anime/manga with High School in the title is shit
Clannad is sitting in shit
I like Psyren and the world god only knows though
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>>84682783
>FMA is way better than it
Yeah no. FMA is good, but nowhere near HxH level. Especially since FMA really dropped in quality and became incredibly generic towards the end.
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>>84680031
You're actually reading Jumbor and Kingdom? Are they any good?
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>>84682689
>>Poor direction (Le back attack xD)
Valid strategy, better than rushing head first while yelling like a moron.
>>Poor story telling (You're an X Ichigo, and a thumpin good one!)
Ichigo's dominance in the battlefield is justified, deal with it.
>>No backgrounds
Fair
>>Bad artwork that makes Naruto look good in comparison
Ahaha, no.
>>Dull cast of characters
Opinions. Personally I find Aizen, Grimmjow, Gin and Tousen to be very interesting characters.
>>84682690
>only lists fights
You're just dumb as a brick.
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>>84682711
Erza is literally the authors waifu. She wins every fight by being down and out, then one shotting with nakama power. Every arc is the same "fight-lose-powerup-win" formula and every character fighst a similar enemy. Natsu gets some bullshit powerup every 20 minutes to kill everything. Every time someone wipes there own ass Mavis gives a speech about how pround she is of Fairy Tails friendship power.
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>>84682776

shit a gag manga having better battles than an actual battle mangas speak very poorly of their editorial departmeny
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>>84682898
>I like Psyren
Still shit.
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>>84682776
Wait, hold on. Assassination Classroom is a comedy based on the interactions and quirks of students and teachers (including Koro-sensei), Beelzebub is a comedy based on the interactions and fights between students and demons.
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>>84682783
>imo
You're not a troll. Just an idiot.
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>>84682565
please, just shut the fuck up.
every third month or so i sit down to catch up with bleach, but honestly i dont give a fuck anymore.

i read a lot of manga. and in my eyes there isnt a single thing more scummy than a person defending bleach. NOT A SINGLE THING.
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>>84682873
>Legitimate criticism is now a buzzword
Well, buzzword is a buzzword too anyway.
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>>84682927
Jumbor is okay so far, there are only 6 chapters out (Mankin Trad JUST picked it back up) so I can't really judge it.

Kingdom is great and we get about 4 chapters released a week. I'd definitely pick it up.
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>>84682933
>dull cast
>opinions
Nope, it's objective. Asspulled power levels from left and right. Awful writing.
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>>84682976
The problem is your post contains no legitimate criticism whatsoever. It's just meaningless words like "bad" or "dull" without actually explaining why.
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>>84682898
>Any anime/manga with High School in the title is shit
>Highschool DxD
>shit
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>>84682922
>but nowhere near HxH level
Well yeah, HxH is mediocre and FMA is good like you said. What's your point?
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>nobody will ever pick up Karakuri Circus
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>>84682948
Yes but both series focus on humor and the characters more than fights. Just because both series have fights don't make them battle manga.
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>one piece
>grand
pick one
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>>84682888
name one good and interesting fight in bleach aside the ones that i mentioned

there are not..even the fight that involved the soul society boss were boring and not worth remembering

bleach has like three good fights

1- ichigo vs rukias brother
2- kempachi vs the black dude
3- the two science dudes
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>>84682898
>Ruroni Kenshin is shit
>Hellsing is shit
>Trigun is shit

Yea, fuck good guys dieing and storyline
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>>84682933
>Poor Direction
>Valid strategy
You've missed the point. When you keep having the same thing happen over and over again to move the plot, it's called bad direction, and makes things boring. No one reads something like Bleach for "more logical" action scenes, they read it for entertaining action.
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>>84683098
I think it is
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>>84683077
see
>>84682445
>>84682503
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Kinnikuman > Every other battle shounen

But, if we take those 8, it would be:

One Piece = HxH > Bleach > Magi > Sengoku Youko > Shit > Kenichi > Ultra shit > Naruto = Fairy Tail
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>>84682628
God, I don't know how this author does it but he is great at making my cry. This fucking scene made me cry even more than the ending of Biscuit Hammer.
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>no JoJo's
You done fucked up now
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>>84683176
>Bleach above Magi
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>>84682898
you know what else is shit? your taste
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>>84683176
>Bleach and Magi better than Sengoku Youko
Are you retarded?
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>>84680220
Not him but i dropped that shit at chapter like 60 or something. Really fucking boring and not fun at all. Also horribly drawn and sameface is everywhere. Also Oga and Beel are bad MC's.
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>One Piece
>Good

Unless you're 12 you must be a troll.
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>>84683204
Jojo is seinen.
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>>84683176
>Bleach above Sengoku Youko
Very subtle
8/10
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>>84683176
>One Piece = HxH
Pffffff
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>>84683098
If the marineford arch was a separate anime it would be in my top3
So yea, it's pretty grand
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>>84683249
Chances are you haven't even read most of it. It's a stable, well-constructed story for its length.
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>>84683176
>Bleach
>above anything but Naruto
>Naruto
>above everything

I don't care how good Kinnikuman is, your list is invalid
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>>84679172 (OP)
HxH isn't bad but the shitty art just ruined it for me. It felt like the artist didn't care at all there for a while. Not to mention the hiatuses.

Magi isn't particularly good in my opinion, but it is better than the top row.

Nanatsu no Taizai may only be 20 or so chapters in, but its first 20 chapters are by far better than the first 20 chapters of any of the rest of these. Save possibly Naruto.
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>>84683204
JoJo is no longer shonen.
Currently running JoJo is seinen.
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>>84683250
The first 6(?) parts aren't, and this thread is about currently running stuff. Not that Jojo is worth reading after part 4 anyway.
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>>84683079
There's a lot more fights in Beelzebub, though.
The entire plot revolves around fighting to get to places and meet people.

I'll give you that they're similar, and that AssClass might become more fighting-related, like Beelzebub, but so far it's not even close. There's been what, 3 fights so far, plus the upcoming new teacher/student bout. It's not even close to Beelzebub's ratio.
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>>84682073
I haven't read it since he got full bring powers and killed his predecessor but is he actually a quincy now too? That is just fucking silly.

I thought something like this would happen ever since that time Aizen claimed that he "created" Ichigo and planned every single fight he had and been observing him. But I didn't think they would actually go through with something so silly.
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Where is Shingeki no Kyojin?
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>>84683287

Jojo is so fucking overrated it hurts, anyway.
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>>84683326
Overrated shit and pretentions Seinen.
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>>84683286
>Naruto
>Good
No, even at the beginning it was a poorly written, juvenile, generic piece of shit.
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>>84683286
>shitty art
Then watch Madhouse's adaption, it's fucking great despite being too cheery in the first arc.
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>>84682922
I love HxH to bits, more than I loved FMA, but FMA is objectively superior in many ways.
It actually ended, for starters.
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You can't forget about this, can you?
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>>84683353
Still no where near madoka or Eva
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>>84683106
Ichigo VS Grimmjow
Kenpachi VS Nnoitra
Ichigo VS Ulquiorra
Soifon VS Barragan
Stark VS Shunsui
Rukia VS Aaroneiro
Tousen VS Komamura & Hisagi
Hisagi VS Findor
Kira VS that eagle guy
Soi Fon VS Ggio Vega
Ichigo VS Ginjo both
Quilge VS Tres Bestia
Yamamoto VS YHWACH
Yamamoto VS The Overkill
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>>84683245
that sucks man, beelzebubs tars getting really got after chapter 100 or 110
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your face when bleach's final is better than other shonen.
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>magi
>long-running
que
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>>84683326
>Pic related
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>>84683326
Monthly. Sengoku shouldn't be in OP's pic.

I'd say it's one of the best battle manga out there though.
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>>84683395
>battle shonen manga
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>>84683249
Only opinions from people who have read the material, please.
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>>84683277
>well-constructed story for its length.

Let's beat the bad boys with the power of our friendship and dreams.
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Jojo was only seinen after SBR, it should bein grand 4
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>>84683376
I'll give you that the first few chapters were rough, but Zabuza and the bridge were great.
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Another Shonenfags vs. Dark Seinenfags thread?
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>>84683395
Not a battle manga.
Plus it's too early to judge in the first place.

I'm still blown away though that Tosh is in Jump. It's just one of those things that people would joke about happening because you know it never would.
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>>84683286
I never really saw the issue with HxH like you did because I didn't read it through scans.
I bought all volumes released so far in my country, and enjoyed it thoroughly.
HxH is a great manga, but Togashi is not reliable enough for a serialization.
If he worked straight to tankobons, I think a lot of people would be a lot happier.
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>>84683176
>Kinnikuman
Suigin?
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>>84683439
I'd say your tastes is incredibly shit
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>>84683369
>seinen
Uh...
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>>84683353
Only part 3. Part 4 and 7 are better than most of the shit on that list.
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>>84683427
> yfw you have low standards
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>>84683456
>Let's describe every shonen
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>>84683430
>Almost 200 chapters
>Has a weekly spin-off series as well
Excuse me?
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>>84683427
*will be
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>>84683376
>No, even at the beginning it was a poorly written, juvenile, generic piece of shit.
What's it like to be objectively wrong?
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>>84683507
>Part 4
>Good
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>>84683445
>food battles
>shonen manga

Fits the description.
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>>84681421
>Sinbad
>Big Bad
Yeah no. Yunan is the big bad. It's so fucking obvious it's not even funny. Sinbad is more mid-boss material.
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>>84683517
Mi negro.
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>>84683445
>>84683485
>battling with cooking
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>>84683543
>Food battles
Yeah, sure... "battles"
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>>84683466
Currently running shonen only.

Also the only good Shonen JoJo parts are Part 2 and 4.
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>>84683486
Don't get me wrong. The story and everything is great. And the art wasn't bad until somewhere in the middle and then it improved slightly.

Like I said, it just felt like he wasn't putting in any effort.
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>>84683456
>Let's beat the bad boys with the power of our friendship and dreams.
You missed the world building, corrupt world government, secret past of the world, likable characters, terrorist hijacking a country, amazing save the heroin with a dark past arc, breaking into a prison, complete crew defeat, themes of slavery and racism, sense of adventure.

Oh wait you're just a troll or an idiot.
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>>84683427
Ichigo pours all his power into one last final burst and lets it out in Soul Suicide fashion and fades away.
Either that or Ichigo becomes the new Spirit King and is locked away for all eternity.
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>>84682804
I gave psycho pass a really high score then dropped it in episode two or three.
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>>84683588
what is ben-tou
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>>84683507
Not to piss off Jojo fags, but part 3 is probably the most overrated battle manga out there. Unless you count Narutards/Bleachtards.
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>>84683532
Please get out Narutard. You and your autism are an embarrassment to the rest of the board.
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>>84683419
>Ichigo VS Ulquiorra

stopped reading there

your taste stinks please get out
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>>84683588
>MC is op as fuck
>MC comes across someone who cooks better than him
>MC trains a lot
>MC beats him
>MC finds another guy who is better than him
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>>84683456
>Power of friendship
>One Piece
It's like you haven't read One Piece.
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>>84683176
Why always One Piece is better than anything else?
I never understood this fact retarded.
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>>84682827
To be honest. I can at least tell what the fuck is going on in Naruto.

In Bleach I have no idea what's happening during most of the fights.
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>>84683106
The post below covered most of them, but the Ichigo vs Ulquiorra was pretty interesting. Also the Yamamoto fights were incredibly fascinating, just because we finally got to see what this fucker does, and Kubo really didn't disappoint (I think).
>>84683419
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>>84683660
>do I fit in guize?
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>>84683438
>People die
>MC being piss about people dying when they are killed
>LIIIIIINKIIIIINNN PAAAARRRRK
Really, a shit ton of shonen start of the same
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>>84683532
What's it like to use philosophical terms wrongly?
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>>84683353
it has aazing fights

wat else you should look in a battlemanga
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>>84683419
>Ichigo VS Ulquiorra
One side curbstomping the other the entire time, no.
>Soifon VS Barragan
Soifon jobbing the entire fight until Hachi killed Barragan does not a good fight make.
>Rukia VS Aaroneiro
The actual fight itself is mostly Rukia dodging attacks and Aaronniero screwing around.
>Soi Fon VS Ggio Vega
Killed instantly the second she got serious.
>Quilge VS Tres Bestia
Not even a fight.
>Yamamoto VS The Overkill
Not a fight. Yama just killed him after taking Chojirou's Bankai to the face.

Most of these shit and you had better choices to pick from.
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>>84683635
>trying to predict the Kubo's mind
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>>84683659
>but part 3 is probably the most overrated battle manga out there.
So is HxH but nobody takes HxH fags seriously anyways
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NARUTO4LYFE
>>
The "Grand 4" should be:
HxH
Hikaru no Go
Jojob
Bobobo
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This seems about right.
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I think it's hilarious how One Piecefags think they're better than Narutofags and Bleachfags, and Bleachfags think they're better than One Piecefags and Narutofags.

But in reality they're all in the shit 3.
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>>84683633
Are you fucking stupid? I can name you countless battle shonen with all of those types of arcs you mentioned.
>world building
One Piece, HxH, Magi, NnT
>corrupt world government
One Piece, HxH, Magi, NnT
>secret past of the world
One Piece, Magi
>likable characters
I could go on and on for this
>terrorist hijacking a country
Hunter x Hunter
>amazing save the heroin with a dark past arc
Literally every battle shonen in existence
>breaking into a prison
Literally every battle shonen in existence
>complete crew defeat
One Piece, HxH
>themes of slavery and racism
Magi, Hunter x Hunter
>sense of adventure
...Are you just trolling around or is Bleach the only shonen you've ever read?
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>>84683633
Aaaannnnd characters drawn by a 5 years old kid.
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>>84683659
It is shit, even shittier than part 5 and 2. But Japan loves them.
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I'd have put HxH on the grand category but the shit togashi kept pulling over the readers just ruins its reputation. Only OP and Jojo deserve the title and even Jojo is no longer shonen now. So yes, objectively One Piece is the one and only grand long running battle shonen at the moment.
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>>84683691
That's because you're a dumb, stinky narutard
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>>84683691
Strange, for me it's the reverse. Probably because I forgot most of the characters in the war.
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>>84683690
most people that actually read one piece hold it in a somewhat high regard.
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>>84683633
You do realize all those arcs you described are also present in every other shonen manga in existence right?
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>>84683532
Bleach had a decent start and then died
Naruto was never alive
>>84683660
Calling austiem in a shonen thread...fucking really
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>>84683659
I want to tell you even if it is overrated, it's still a really good battle manga, but I can't do it without making it seem like I'm overrating it myself.
The fights relied on type of skill and clever use of them, instead of just powerlevels, new interesting characters join the group after being defeated (like all great battle shonen), characters we already know reappear stronger and different, unexpected powers, world traveling... It's pretty damn good no matter how I look at it, even if it doesn't reach the level of some other parts.
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>>84683740

Your opinion is cool and all, but if you're going to claim there were better choices, you may as well drop them and give your reasoning.
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>>84683780
If we include completed sports manga the entire list is pointless.
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>>84683780
>Yes
>Already finished
>Not shounen anymore
>Pfff

No.
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>>84683681
How they call it? nakama? same shit bro.
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>>84683826
>I can name you countless battle shonen with all of those types of arcs you mentioned.
Oh look, the specific ones you mentioned are all also good.

>Implying I've ever read Bleach
I'll wouldn't touch that shit with a 10 foot pole.
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>>84683826
You idiot, you're replying to a guy who is quoting One Piece, not Bleach.
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>>84683839
Holy shit you're so dark and edgy.
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>>84682065

I think the characters are good but they aren't great.

If one of them died, even Alibaba or something, I wouldn't be moved all that much. I like them but it would be like "oh, my favorite pencil broke" and not like "OH NO THIS CANT BE HAPPENING!!"

The rest of it is good though. I would probably say character development is the weakest part. It's not bad, per say, but it isn't great either.

It's very difficult to get a complex plot and good character development right. Usually it's one or the other.
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>>84683909
>Not liking Bobobo
One of the few interesting battle shounens Jump ever did.
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>>84683780
Jojo is seinen.
Hikaru no Go isn't a battle manga, and it's finished (terrible rushed ending, btw).
Bobobo... not bad, but it's more of a comedy, and also it's not as good as the others in the list.
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anime & manga approved by /pol/ (some shows are missing)

Angel cop
Jin roh
Legend of the galactic heroes
DBZ
MD geist
Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Wake ga Nai
Space adventure cobra
Eve no jikan
Sora no woto
Ghost in the Shell
Evangelion
K-on!
Code geass
Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic
GuP
Mobile Suit Gundam
Grave of the Fireflies
Monster
Barefoot Gen
Texhnolyze
Battleship Yamato
Hellsing ultimate
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>>84683780
Bobobo was fucking horrible.
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The only good shounen ever made.
Prove me wrong.
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>>84683944
Let it go man. He's an angry retard on a mission.
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Hey, where's the Toriko fanbase to defend themselves?

Oh wait...
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>>84684003
Where the fuck is HxH, Biscuit Hammer, Punpun, Sengoku Youko, and Spirit Circle?
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Pic related; it is happening right now.
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>>84684035
Yotsuba is better in every way.
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>>84683719
Pretty sure I used the term correctly, especially when describing something like the beginning of Naruto which has received nothing but Unanimous praise from the fast majority of the media community in general.
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>>84683970
Actually people who likes shonenshit are the edgy ones.
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>>84684003
Is there supposed to be a theme here?
You're all over the map.
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>>84684061
dat entry level taste
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>>84683909
>>84684026
>not liking bobobo
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>>84683846
I don't even like Naruto. It's shit and most likely whatever you like is shit too.

Especially if it's HxH or JoJo or some other obscure manga that you will claim is good just because no one has ever heard of it.
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>>84684003

Wish they'd have given YYH an honorable mention, despite the disappointing ending. ;-;
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>>84684003
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>>84684035
Yotsuba > Azumanga Daioh
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>>84684065
Link to the archive of that thread please?
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>>84684076
Actaully people who dismiss an entire demograph or genre instead of judging each individual work on it's own merits are edgy and borderline retarded.
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>>84684003
>code gayass
I guess it has a lot of political bullshit though,
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>>84684035
>Shonen
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>>84684102
How in any way?
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>RurouKen
>shit
Maximum overpleb.
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>>84684120
The post number is right there.

Look it up yourself.
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>>84684109
>HxH
>JoJo
>obscure manga

Do you even read your comments after shitting them out?
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>>84684103
lel so randum xD
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>>84684003
>K-on!

every fucking time
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>>84684111
>despite the disappointing ending
Read the manga and watch the OVA. It's not perfect, but a lot better than the anime ending. (Which was still pretty good)
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>>84684120
You have the post number. Look it up.
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>>84679172 (OP)

take one piece and magi out of there to the shit group. add jojo and zombi powder to the grand group
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>>84684035
Even those shitty doujins the author made when he was poor were funnier than Azumanga Daioh.
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>>84683633
>You missed the world building
Not a plus.
>corrupt world government
I certainly haven't seen this done way better in countless manga before, no sir.
>secret past of the world
Same goes
>likable characters
Now you're just grasping for straws.
>terrorist hijacking a country
Again, done to death and better in the past.
>save the heroin with a dark past arc
>heroin
Yes let us save all the drugs! Literally in every shounen ever.
>breaking into a prison
This too.
>themes of slavery and racism
Which were never fully explored, or well executed in the first place.
>sense of adventure
HxH does it better.
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>>84684103
This.
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>>84684143

The political issues in that show were incredibly nonsensical and trivial, but I guess it did allow for many of Zero's "miracles" to occur.
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>>84684175

You act like their more popular than Naruto or Bleach. They're pretty unpopular and shit.
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I just got into Hunter x Hunter a while ago. Already caught up to the manga and im around episode 60 right now. To be honest i was disappointed because of all hype it got here and now i realize it was mostly dick suckers and fanboys. Its good at best enough to keep you wanting more. Nothing too spectacular.
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>>84684139
Every shonen is about protecting the ones MC love and fulfill your dreams.
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>>84683873
not nearly as well done like in one piece, i can assure you that.
you could say that out of the three:

one piece
>innocent (shonen), heavy themes but light delivery, keeping in touch with the shonen ways at all times

naruto
>some themes but failed delivery

bleach
>no bigger themes. no real sense in the story, straight up juvenile.
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>>84684188
Read the thread.
Stop posting shit.
Actually inform yourself.
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>>84684188
>Zombie Powder
>Good
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Shonen has better art then seinen only exceptions are Nejimaki Kagyu, Tokyo Ghoul, Terra Formars and Jojo


Deal with it
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>>84684217
Except for, you know, sales.
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>>84684003
>not a single drop of piss
/pol/ confirmed for bros
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>>84684188
>Zombie Powder
0/10.
At least make an effort when attempting to troll.
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What about Soul Eaters guys?
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>>84684226
Be honest. Do you consider it better than early Naruto?

Think Zabazu/Chunin exams.
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>>84684188
>That shitty grammar
>No capitalization
>Zombie Powder
>Good
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>>84684217
>HxH
>Shit
Excuse me? How in any way?

Also you do realize that HxH is one of the top 10 best selling Jump series of all time right?
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>>84684252
>Hasn't read Berserk
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>>84684217
HxH outsells Bleach
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>>84684295
Fairy Tail and D. Gray-Man level.
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>>84684184

I've checked out the alternate endings, but growing up on the anime left a very very dark stain in my mind regarding YYH... The bitter lingering thoughts were left far too long.
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>>84684200
Wow, you really proved your point with all those examples you cited. Nice job!
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>>84684217
They're actually really popular and really good.
Not that popularity really matters in a manga's quality, but yeah, they have it.
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>>84684295
Soul Eater is shit.
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>>84684200
> World building not a plus in a story about ADVENTURE
Fucking idiot.

> HxH does it better
HxH is a god tier battle manga, but in terms of adventure, One Piece > HxH
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>>84684073
>Unanimous praise from the fast majority of the media community in general.
There you go misusing terms again.
Also what I meant is that you do not even understand the concept of objectivity in the first place, you dumb nuruturd
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>>84684003
ok so whats the criteria for a show to be a approved by /pol/?
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>>84684217
ITT: An anime is obscure if it doesn't have an English dub.
In short, you're a faggot.
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>>84684296
Just get the fuck out. Naruto is objective shit and it will always be objective shit. Now please stop shitposting.
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>>84684188
jojo is seinen, read the fucking image for once.

Also I love One Piece but I thought the mermaid arc was really schizophrenic and it was a pain in the ass to keep track of what was going on.
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>>84684200
>Not a plus.
Stopped reading there. You're spewing shit, giving no examples and whining about everything despite One Piece doing it well.
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>>84684231
And every seinen is a reminder of how you never paid attention to the shounen morals and now you are a worthless salary-man.
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>>84684295
>Eaters
Shit Eater fans don't even know how to spell their own series' name.
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>>84684331
I have retard the art is nothing new
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Started watching Bleach now. It's pretty good. Up to the episode where Ichigo fighting some guy with a bow and they've got to try and kill as many hollows as possible in 24 hours.

I'm guessing like many long running shows this has that one episode where the quality just drops. Remember that being the case with Naruto. Still don't understand how anyone can be into it.
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>>84679172 (OP)
I see your shit4 and raised you the shit2.
PoT and Basugay.
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>>84684384
I think you're the one misusing terms now, but you're a tripfag (let me guess I'm using this wrong too now right?) so it is to be expected.
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>>84684231
Yu Yu Hakusho was about punching people in the face and learning to bridge the gap between humans and demons.
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>>84679691
>Doesn't realize how broad shounen is

it's one thing to throw all endless battle shounen together, but to say shounen overall is bad is just stupid.
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>>84684461
>losing the argument
>I'll whine and cry like a bitch. T-that'll show 'em!
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>>84684437

Bleach is passable up until the end of the rescue arc. After that, it's shit, don't bother continuing beyond that because it only gets worse and worse.

Really, the pinnacle of Bleach was the SOL/MOTW part at the very beginning.
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>>84684367
This guy knows what he talking about, it is mega-shit.
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>>84684252

> Not mentioning our goddess, The Mori.
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>>84684447
PoT?

Anyways Basugay is actually pretty good. Hell Togashi is the editor for it.
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>>84684343
But there's an anime OVA ending that shows them all chilling a year later.
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Whoa, all of these people who're suggesting manga and not a single soul has posted about Saint Seiya?
I understand it's finished and therefore wouldn't make it into the list, but it's a fucking great battle shounen nonetheless.
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>>84684226

I think that's the hype, it's consistently interesting. There are no points in the series where you lose interest (Greed Island was questionable). It's this very reason that fan's still exist to this day to defend it and encourage it onto others.
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>>84684252
>togashi
>kubo
>eichirooda
>attackofeoten
>better art
TOP LEL
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Sports shounen > Battle shounen

Just dropping by to state the obvious.
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>>84684523
Sorry I haven't read it yet
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At this point I'd switch out Fairy Tail with One Piece. Both are lower middle tier with fun characters but the only thing about OP is that its not even worth getting into at this point. Fairy Tail may have more obvious flaws than OP but at least its finally starting to show signs of ending within the next couple years. Personally I prefer OP but if I were forced to recommend one of the two to someone I'd tell them to read Fairy Tail.
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What about sports manga?

Grand tier currently running:
Diamond no Ace
Baby Steps
Ippo
Chihayafuru

Shit tier:
Kuroko
Prince of tennis
...I don't know.
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>>84684529
I think he meant Prince of Tennis.
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>>84684523
Otoyomegatari isn't really shounen, dawg
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>>84684506
>Losing the argument
>You're wrong because I don't know how to properly use my vocabulary and will provide no reason as to why your use is wrong
Okay?
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>>84684529
> Togashi is the editor for it.
Togashi is working as an editor instead of on HxH?
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>>84684529
princess of tennis
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>>84684578
>lel
Now that is Leddit tier
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>>84684400
nazis, Aryan men doing Aryan things, meaningful messages, jew references, and politically incorrect stuff in general
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>>84684594
>Fairy Tail may have more obvious flaws than OP
And One Piece has things going for it besides fanservice.

That's one of the stupidest posts I've ever read.
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>>84684602
>Kuroko
>Shit
Togashi reads it every week and disagrees.
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>>84684405
>this much butthurt

Early Naruto wasn't an worse than any other shounen. Get over yourself.
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>>84684564
for some reason i've never liked saint seiya, even as a kid.
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>>84684564
Go back to Mexico.
No, en serio, estoy cansado de esa mierda.
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>>84684578
Uhm, One Piece has god tier art. Hell, it as a weekly series looks better than the majority of monthly series.

It's the art style you don't like, not the art.
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>>84684568
People say that, but I thought Greed Island was great. Reading all of the numbered cards' effects and seeing them training was really great for me.
Though I didn't read them online, and can see how it would be bothersome to do so.
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>>84684688
I'm not mexican.
Or from any spanish-speaking country.
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>>84684602
>Kuroko
You do realize Togashi is the editor for Kuroko right? Fuck off.
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>>84684618
I know. Did you read the post I was quoting?
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>>84684594
It doesn't matter if it's long as long as what's in there is good. Look at fucking Conan.
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>>84684602
Ippo will always be running, Ippo is eternal

>>84684747
Yeah I can't into reading comprehension
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>>84684622
Yes. There was this recent interview a few months ago where Togashi was talking about how he's the first and current editor for Basugay and how it and AssClass are his favorite Jump series right now.
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>>84684665
>>84684739

I don't care what Togashi thinks.

If he thinks Kuroko is good he has shitty taste in sports manga.
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>>84684564
Saint Seiya is just like Bleach in the 90's. Nobody cares then and now.
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>>84684665
He's the editor for the series. Of course he's going to claim it's good.
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>>84684594
i really dont want to know on what basis you judge a manga.
i mean its true fairy tail is improving a bit lately but still..
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>>84684602
>Karuta
>Sport
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>>84684698

I felt the same way, Greed Island had a very RPG'ish feel to it, where they were completing quests and collecting cards, all while getting stronger for the inevitable fight. It was overall a good training arc that setup the required boost in power for the Chimera Ant arc, which just blows all the other arcs in fights, powers, and story (imo).
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>>84684564
Probably because we are talking about manga.
Saint Seiya is art...yeah.
By the way, Seiya is an awful lead character.
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>>84684783

>The tastes of someone who reads manga is better than one who's successfully sold thousands upon thousands of manga

Well, alright
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>>84684876
>i mean its true fairy tail is improving a bit lately but still..
Fairy Tail is worse than it's ever been.
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>>84684766
>It doesn't matter if it's long
This is actually the reason most people don't read manga, so yes, recommending someone something long is generally not that great an idea because it's very time consuming, even if it is good. It's just the sad state of the world we live in.
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>>84684698
>>84684905
Eh, I enjoyed GI but it's probably my least favorite arc in HxH mainly because it's the only arc that feels like a generic battle shonen arc. Every other arc in HxH is incredibly original and feels like something never before done, yet GI was just your average sucked into a video game arc for the most part. Still good, but just not at the same level of the other arcs.
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>>84684893
It's categorized as a sport manga.

Besides you'd get wrecked if you played Karuta, admit it.
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>>84684905
You can tell how Togashi is obsessed with making games into reality by reading everything he made and realizing in ALL of them, people are transported into video games.
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>>84684620
You're not quoting me there, but sure I'll set straight, narushit.
>Unanimous praise from the fast majority of the media community in general.
First of all you're capitalizing a word that shouldn't be capitalized.
Second claiming that something is 'unanimous' is the same as saying that there were no disagreements on the verdict, which is most certainly not the case with naburo.
Third, typo on 'fast', you meant to say 'vast majority.
And last, objective means that something is an absolute truth, an opinion can therefore never be objective and you're a shitposting moron from /v/.
Now kindly fuck off back to whatever hellhole you sprung from. And I advice you to stay in school.
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>>84684980
This isn't a thread to recommend manga to casuals, it's to rank the current manga.
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>>84684893
That nigga called Karuta a sport and didn't include based Fukumoto
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>>84684783
>he has shitty taste in sports manga.
He likes Slam Dunk so no.
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>>84684914
I can't argue with that. I read for the other saints, but really disliked how they were all bumped down a level so Seiya could stand out, after the coliseum.
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>>84684876
>Simple objective facts.
>459 posts and 47 image replies omitted. Click here to view.
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>>84684967
What does that have to do with it?

He works on the manga, he's going to say it's good.

Also, if you've read it you would realize that it is a poor sports manga. There is no tension, everyone has superpowers and I really have no interest in who wins or loses.
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>>84684779
>AssClass
Good to see he enjoys AssClass. It's also my favorite Jump series right now. Especially after those last few chapters.

Hell, we actually had an amazing thread last week about how AssClass seems to be taking inspiration from HxH with how Nagisa is mentally fucking insane just like Gon
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/84176044/
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>>84685013
You were doing well until "I advice you".
It's "I advise you to stay in school".

Not the guy you were talking to, btw.
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>>84685001
I play baseball bitch nigga and I pitch at 50km/h. Those bitch ass japs barely make 20km/h with their shitty games.

Besides,
Richii Mahjong > Shogi > Karuta
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>>84685070
It's impossible to not like Slam Dunk.
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>Togashi is wasting his time being the editor for some shitty shotacon sports manga rather than giving us new HxH
I fucking hate that lazy faggot
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>>84685200
Minefield Mahjong > Richii Mahjong
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>>84684602
>Diamond no Ace
Okay, not amazing.
>Baby Steps
Seen better.
>Ippo
Correct
>Chihayafuru
Josei, and a piss poor one.

I think Ashita no Joe and Major should be added to the list.
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>>84685171
Both work, it's a matter of old non-Americanized British English vs the American bastardized version.
I tend to get them mixed up from time to time.
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ITT: Togashi fanboys suck Togashi's tiny dick
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>>84683890
>Tsukishima vs Byakuya
Book of the End is a pretty interesting ability. There's a fair bit of mindgames involved, an explanation of how Senbonzakura works and how to counter it, and Byakuya wins by using his ability in a way that his opponent never expected him to.

>Gin vs Ichigo
There's a surprising lack of "I am now behind you." in this fight, Gin screws around with Ichigo a lot with his Bankai's speed, and the entire thing mostly revolves around Ichigo aimdodging and parrying strikes long enough to actually get in an opportunity to attack.
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>>84685329
>Tiny dick
I'd think not seeing how his massive godly man scepter of love is good enough for Princess Naoko Takeuchi. Fuck off.
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>>84685200
>50km/h

Are you 3?

I'm pretty sure I stretch faster than that.

Also Mahjong is luck. Now if it was Go > Shogi > Karuta
I'd agree.
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>>84684003
/pol/ doesn't like even Lina Inverse?
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>>84685363

>Mahjong
>luck

I bet you think Poker is luck, too.
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>>84685305
It's a list of currently running manga, otherwise anon wouldve looked like a massive jackass for excluding Rookies, Slam Dunk, and One Outs
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>>84685358
>Naoko Takeuchi
Wait... WAIT! THAT Naoko Takeuchi? As in the creator of Sailor Moon? What are you talking about?
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>>84685346
>Tsukishima vs Byakuya
Ya blew it
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>>84685409
Uhm, how new are you? Togashi and Takeuchi have been married since the 90's and have 3 kids together. Hell, Naoko even helped him draw a lot of the Ant arc.
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>>84685305
Baby Steps is "objectively" the best tennis manga ever.

Prove me wrong.
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>>84685409
Dude how could you not know Togashi has been fucking Takeuchi since forever
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>>84685422
In what way?
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>>84685409
You can't be that ignorant, anonymous.
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>>84685405
It is luck. Yes, there is skill involved, but a lot of it is up to luck.
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>>84685363
First year pitching with my left hand. I am lefty but I was incapable of doing shit with my left hand after I got it busted when I was young.

>Also Mahjong is luck.
Yeah, on Tenhou is luck. IRL it isn't. You think those theory books and abstract mahjong concepts exist just to take people's money?

Go a shit.
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karuta is quite different though. its not strictly a mind game, its more of a focus and reaction game.

at competitive level it is guaranteed to be a tough game.
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Shonen Part Z
>>84685511 →
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>>84685409
They're married, and have a kid.
He talks about it in the tankobon's ramblings.
There's even a Sailor Moon drawing in one of the volumes.
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>>84679172 (OP)
>forgetting girlchan in paradise


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