Yes.
Get to work.

>>89869558 (OP)
what is this? and why is it still on paper?

>>89869633
There's only a handful LN writers that can put out so much stuff.

Take a guess

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>>89869558 (OP)
No, you need to read pic related or
http://randomc.net/2012/06/30/kyoukai-senjou-no-horizon-retrospective-part-1-the-premise-the-world-episodes-01-06/
http://randomc.net/2012/07/04/kyoukai-senjou-no-horizon-retrospective-part-2-episodes-07-13-final-impressions/

>Watch the show
>Understand 25%
>Enjoy it nonetheless

No regrets.
S3 when?

>>89869783
JUST BELIEVE

>>89869558 (OP)
>not wanting to read books

>>89869783
After Sunrise has milked out Rabu Raivu

>>89869883
Must be a pureblooded American.

>>89869891
But average BD sales for Horizon are 20+k

>>89869964
Production cost for LL! is certainly less than Horizons and their average sales are pretty close.

>>89869883
>reading books

>>89870049
So shitty moe over quality and quantity

Is this the stuff explaining Horizon? My fucking god, no wonder I could barely understand what was going on when I watched it.

>>89870104
>horizon
>quality

>>89869783
Typical Horizonfag.
>show is mediocre
>new season please
Every time.

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>>89870150
No, this is explaining Horizon.

>>89870157
>Horizon
>not quality and tiny details with lovable characters

I really enjoyed Horizon.

It's quite possibly the funniest nonsense you can get for 12 episodes. It's the ultimate anime definition of "so bad it's good".

I mean, it reminds me of the Conan The Barbarian remake.It's so fucking dumb and nonsensical that it blows your fucking mind.

How dare the OP miss out on the Autismpedia.

>>89869558 (OP)
Jesus christ and its not even good

>>89870158
>Using insert_name_here-fag as insult
Why don't you go back to IRC

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>Start season 2
>I was able to decipher season 1 so this should be a piece of cake now that I have context
>Politics with England start
>Pic related

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>>89870236
Heresy

>>89870158
Are you still that ass damaged?

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>>89870299
Help is on the way!

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>you will never accumulate this much autism

>>89870389
16th century, a time when jews didn't control 98% of the world's banks.
But they were still cunts.

Well, this is the worst Horizon thread in a while.
Did something happen?

>>89870546
Horizon is shit

>>89870423
>All dat Neito

At least he has good taste

>>89870546
No bitches&whores to save the day.

>>89870150

No it's the collection of most (all?) of the stuff that the author has written.

>>89870571
Duly noted.

>>89870546
Just ignore the obvious trolls-we all know how good Horizon threads are

Just remember, Volume 6C and S3 announcement in September.

>>89869747
Are these all published since 2008? Did the author start writing since 10 years ago or something?

>>89870637
Honestly, I can't think of anything to talk about until js06 starts translating OnC again.

>>89870725
I want to believe.

>Reading LNs

Haha

>>89870781
He started writing in like the early 90's, the OP is all his novels so far, the largest one is Horizon, which he started in 2008 but he had the detailed setting in his head like.. 20 years ago.

>>89870389
Not that guy, but I've read this and I'm still confused.

Isn't the date of the festival more important than the length of the festival? Even if the length of the festival is one day, if the date of the festival is set to be in one week, can England not buy all of the meat on that day, refrigerate it, and process it in the following week?

On top of that, even if the length of the festival was two weeks, why can't England buy the meet during the last week of the festival, thus still buying the meat at the lower price?

Also, why can't Musashi process the meat?

>>89870898
Its a shame how incoherent it still is.

>>89870781
That stack is 2003-2012, I think.
Owari no Chronicle (2003-2005) and Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon (2008-ongoing) and the Kimitoasamade Horizon spinoff novels (2011-2012).
The Horizon and Kimitoasamade stacks aren't up to date though, and it also doesn't include the stuff he wrote in the 90s.

Whats the appeal of this series

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>>89870939
If I remember correctly they can't do regular business because that would piss off the people trying to recreate history therefore they're laundering the meat under the premise it's just a festival so they need to do it for at least a week to process it all before the war with Tres Espania and Musashi has more meat than they can consume in two weeks.

>>89871126
Characters

>>89870939
It's basically all a hoax, they're acting under the premise of a festival since nobody from the TU is allowed to negotiate with Musashi.

>>89871176
Explain

>>89871208
Fun Characters

>>89871208
PLOT

>>89871158
>>89871192
So the meat completely irrelevant? I haven't watched the following episodes because I'm still trying to make sense of this one.

>>89871239
>>89871242
Its ok if you dont feel like explaining
But I just dont have time to read all that to find out if its worth it or not

>>89870939
I think the first question was discussed during the airing of S2, and I seem to recall that Zeroblade said that England somehow didn't have the means to refrigerate it. I do think it had to do with history recreation.
I think the search function of his tumblr is still broken though, so checking it would be hard.

As for the second question, I guess the Armada Battle coupled with that the meat would take a week to preserve causes time constraints.

>>89871274
Nobody's forcing you to do anything anon.

>>89871296
When I see that something is popular Im afraid I might be missing out on something great

>>89871126
A fantastic setting and an interesting cast.
This is a horrible thread to ask that in though.

>>89871274
I really thought i explained it quite clearly with >>89871242 this.
Fanservice.
Which is why i won't read it. i just like to watch it.

>>89871294
Fair enough.

But wasn't England's objective to buy the meat during the second week in the first place? I'm sure that they have the means to preserve in that time.

>>89871262
England needs meat with the war coming up.

>>89871262
>So the meat completely irrelevant?
Why would the thing they are trying to trade be irrelevant?

You are not allowed to trade shit -> Well k, then we have a festival and ...uhh... do a "festive exchange of meat and money" -> Dude what the fuck

>>89871400
Their objective would be striking a balance between having enough time to preserve it while still getting it as close to spoiling as possible to lower the price, right?
I guess buying it in the first week wouldn't be optimal then.
I couldn't make perfect sense out of it while watching the first time either, so I really need to get to rewatching S2.

>>89871369
Faggot.

If you're Japanese? Yes. Anime adaptations of manga and LNs are often primarily a glorified advertisement for the source material.

If you're not Japanese? Sucks to be you. Go read one of the many summaries floating around if you want to understand everything.

>>89871400
I'll try making it short.
War coming up.
Musashi floating around.
Need food bad for war.
Musashi has food.
Try negotiations.
Can't openly negotiate because TU is in bad relations with Musashi!
Eureka! -> cover the trade with a festival(takes time to set up)
Jewish negotiations happen, England gets ripped off, Shirojiro smiles, festival happens.
Now due to that festival they're short on time for the upcoming battle.

tl;dr if Musashi wasn't running around stealing DSAs England wouldn't be in a bind since they'd be able to trade normally and not lose on valuable time.

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>>89869558 (OP)
http://kyoukaisen.tumblr.com/
This has Q&A for every episode that should answer any questions you have.

>>89871400
I am pretty sure they needed a full week to process it all, so their objective was to buy it basically a week out but pushed for a greater discount in order to try and drag Shiro down to a week, it backfired when Shiro called their bluff and you can see other peoples explanation on the amount of wastage that it would have resulted in.

Not really, you just need to pay more attention to it unlike most anime these days.
Can't fault you for turning off your brain expecting everything to be laid down for you, most of us do that.

They really should have kept the potato bit from the novels.

>>89871693
Pretty sure most people in this thread doesn't feel like understanding.

>you're telling me I have to pay attention to things other than tits?

>>89871440
>>89871510
I see, if that's the case my questions still stand.

Further, do they need the meat for the battle, or for the aftermath of the battle? Or does it not matter?

>>89871592
>I guess buying it in the first week wouldn't be optimal then.

That's (one of) my point(s): England is not obliged to buy the meat during the first week. Why does the length of the festival matter then? England wins either way.

>>89871761
Now now, there are actually those who want to understand.

>>89871773
They need to feed both the soldiers and their citizens.
Consumption goes up during the festival, Musashi has a LOT of food, after the battle the meat would spoil.

>>89871656
I understand the larger situation, I'm just not understanding how Shirojiro

>>89871714
See >>89871773 (You)

Too complicated.

>>89871916
It's not complicated if you watch it with others.
It's perfect to watch with /a/ during its broadcast.

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>>89871773
During wars food supply drops.

England needed to buy the meat the first week because the fastest they could process it is a week working at full capacity so they have a secure food supply then those people have time to prepare for the war.

>>89871856
That was arguably the most difficult part of the series to understand, did you have trouble understanding everything else?

The entire trading thing is basically a bluff

>>89871856
That confuses me somewhat as well, I don't remember how him calling out Howard's bluff got him to backtrack to 11 days.
As I said, I'll have to rewatch this soon.

>>89872091
Ooh~ Mister Berlusconi

>>89872136
>Because Howard himself performed a DOGEZA in order to begin negotiations, and to keep his pride as an English merchant knowledgeable about the ultimate special move, DOGEZA, he must concede to Shiro’s DOGEZA.

It's one of the silly parts of the setting.
This settings takes its job classes VERY seriously.

>>89872091
But England's plan was to buy the meat during the second week in the first place, wasn't it? If that's the case it's suitable to assume that they have the means to process it and prepare for the war in time.

>>89872116
>>89872136
Sorry, I worded that a little wrongly. I understand the argument, and how Shirojiro got 13 days in the end, but I don't see how that means that he won the negotiation.

To reiterate:
>That's (one of) my point(s): England is not obliged to buy the meat during the first week. Why does the length of the festival matter then? England wins either way.

>Shirojiro starts doing the Triple Axel Dogeza
>Trisection from FFT kicks in

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>>89870423
>never
I'm working on it.

A cleaned version of Far East Longhouse Life has been uploaded to sadpanda by Nackbjorn.
http://exhentai.org/g/612170/687f4502b8/

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>>89872242
I give up.
These negotiations were the one thing in the series to be truly too deep for me.

>>89872242
Shojiro got to sell at the least possible discounting(maximized profit) because the festival length made the expiry date on the meat near irrelevant. Shorter festival would mean that food can possibly be wasted to spoilage so Shojiro would have to give a higher discount.

>>89872136
Howard begged Musashi to sell them meat so when Shirojiro begged him to reconsider far better he was forced to return the favor by offering him more days but then Shirojiro called his bluff forcing him to give him more days under the premise that they wouldn't have to rush Shirojiro then says he didn't take days off into account then offers him a hostage to help sweeten the deal.

>>89872347
Magnificent.

>>89872384
Why can we treat the price of the meat to be constant throughout the festival period?

>>89869558 (OP)
As I started watching Horizon I immediately knew it was not a simple anime and one that would require quite a lot of effort to process. Thus I postponed watching it.

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Is it time for meat charts?

>>89872347
>>89872371
That cover is wallpaper tier.
I pray I'll be able to stitch it easily and get rid of the spine marks.

>>89872442
Selling in bulk/wholesale, which is what gets you discounts anyway.

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>>89872523
Ain't a shortage of these thankfully.

>>89872518
>>89872577
I know I'm repeating myself but Lady Horizon has one magnificently engineered posterior.

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Timeline(S1)

>>89872553
But- wha- I think that flew over my head. I'll try again. Every day the meat is one day closer to expiry, so why does the price of the meat not fall over the festival period in your assumption?

>>89872523
>>89872578
They seem to be very useful. If only I could moon.

>>89872610
Ieyasu was a great man.

>>89872631
Now you just frightened them irc posters more.
Why would you do that.

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You might need to let the info sink in and rewatch tommorow as most people had a week between episodes so their brains weren't fried the first time watching it.

>>89872631
Are there any other anime that are very detailed? S1 was like 2 days in 13 episodes, and I like that.
Anything similar?

>>89872711
People who don't like complex things don't really belong here anyway.

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Whoops my captchas expired while I was away

>>89872734
Watching it while airing had its problems too.
You tend to forget some things from week to week and this isn't the show to take the time to remind you of that sort of stuff.

>>89872734
I liked the geometry and parallel discussion more.

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>>89872861
Funny how you learn stuff in the least unexpected places.
The weekly history lessons were pretty great too.

>>89872912
>in the most*

>>89872857
I really like these two, they aren't really the focus of the series due to the time a lot of characters share but I really want them to be happy considering how much shit they went through, and still are.

Where are the "Horizon in the middle of [character name]" futa doujins?

>>89872993
I think there was one or two with the Honda's

>>89872831
At least it makes rewatching it more enjoyable it wasn't until my 3rd time I realized the significance of Toori's eroge in the first episode or that Naruse was sending Asama a secret message in the first ep of the second season

Sasuga scanner anon and Nackbjorn.
My shit should arrive this week, hopefully.

ITT:
People bashing things they cannot comprehend.
If I don't understand it, it must be stupid.

News at eleven.

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I guess I'll just put it out there that if anyone feels like trying to translate this doujin or the one linked to in >>89872347 I could redraw and typeset either of them.

Also, the last part of ch02 of the 4koma anthology is a pain to redraw and I'm going to be busy in the near future, so that won't be out in a while.

>>89873339
That's some dedication right there.

>>89873339
>Aoi Kimi
>part-time Librarian

I.. what?

>>89873397
That's not even complete yet.

>>89873449
That's why she calls herself a "smart sister".

>>89873449
Why do you think she's called 'Wise-sister"?
She's well educated, she's constantly tutoring Toori in the LNs

It's just that she's so brazen and arrogant that you normally wouldn't think she's so smart.

>>89873339
I really have to update that pic with Masazumi's mother's picture since for some reason everyone thinks their face was wasn't shown.

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Who else has Kazuno and Cavewoman on preorder?

>>89873573
Oh hi there.

>>89873604
Volk`s Horizon for me.

There are so many horizonfags in buyfag threads!

>>89873656
Well there are plenty of characters, there's bound to be a few that sparks someone's fancy.

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>>89873604
Regrettably, I could only afford one.
I've already paid the proxy to pick up Mary for me, though!

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>>89873573
Done.

>>89873687
And yet, only a handful has got figs.

>>89873826
Blame Kawakami.

>>89873656

I tend to stay away from Volks since the time I tried to buy from them with a proxy, they found out it was a proxy and took the money but I never got the figure, and got away with it because of their "We won't ship to proxies" rule. That was years ago, but still. And anyway, most figure makers will release their version of the characters steadily, so I,ll just have to wait for a good Horizon from, say, Alter or Koto.

And I tend to stay away of Buyfag threads, they tend to become a bit too repetitive on the long run.

>>89873714

That's nice, which one did you pick?

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>>89873949
>which one did you pick?
I worded that badly. I could only afford one figure, so I waited for Mary.

>>89873949
Oh shit, you scared me now.
Will have to wait and see, anyway...

>>89874122

Nah, you should be okay. Proxies are a lot smarter nowadays and I haven't heard of anyone having trouble with one in the last few years (as long as you stay away from the shady ones, of course).

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ALL MY WANT!

>>89874546
Well, apart from being really slow with email, can`t call yokatta shady.

>>89874575
HOLY SHIT

>>89874575
Why do those faces look like something that came out of TypeMoon

>>89872702
England need to buy meats at the cheapest price and able to process all of that, it mean 8 days before the war. They need to buy 2000 ton at all not through out the festival, but they can only buy when the festival open since it's their excuse for trading with Musashi. England consume 2000 ton of meats in 2 weeks normally, and their excuse to Musashi was with the festival the consume rate will be double so they only need 8 days to consume all of the meats before it expire.

>>89874606
Type Moon invented chibis, didn't you know?

>>89869558 (OP)
>implying you retarded gaijinese can even read Japanese
lel

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>>89874575
Those are fanmade, right?

>>89874597
>really slow with email
I've never had this problem with them

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>>89876169
http://ja.myfigurecollection.net/item/142205
http://ja.myfigurecollection.net/item/142206
I don't think so.

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>>89876326
>garage kit
Figures.

>>89876326
>Garage Kits

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>>89874575

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We adaption yet?

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>>89877091
Anytime now.

>>89871332
Everyone here could care less about your welfare.

>>89877167
I really like that font.

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>>89877091
>CV: Rie Kugimiya

>>89869558 (OP)
>>89869747
It means "fuck off you are unwelcome"

>>89869558 (OP)
Can somebody edit the pic or something to show what each stack is? Judging from the book on top the second largest stack is OnC.

>>89878129
youshouldbeabletosolvethis.jpg

>>89878129
>not memorizing the time eras in order

The order is FORTH AHEAD GENESIS OBSTACLE(phone) and CITY

EDGE would be between AHEAD & GENESIS but it isn't written yet.

>>89877921
But who will be Shinjou's brother?

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>>89878129
>not having been in every Horizon thread since the beginning of time thus being able to recognise any Kawakami novel without knowing a lick of Japanese
I bet you don't even have autism.

From left to right:
Rensha-ou (FORTH era)
Owari no Chronicle (AHEAD era)
Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon (GENESIS era)
Obstacle Overture (Android game) (OBSTACLE era)
CITY series (CITY era)

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>>89878403
Shinjou doesn't have a brother.

>http://yuri-ism.com/2013/07/18/release-149-new-horizons/
I'm slow but pleased.

>>89878523
I didn't want to believe in that spoiler. This just gets better and better.

Has anyone read the CITY series?
The Osaka game looks interesting.

>download horizon batch
>watch 3 seconds
>dropped and deleted

>>89879159

You dropped it because you saw a book and Earth?

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>>89879029
>The Osaka game looks interesting.
I've been trying to download it off Share for ages. I'll notify you people if it ever gets completed.
Too bad I suck at fighting games.

If js06 gets done with OnC some time in the future, has got his hands free and doesn't object to doing more Kawakami stuff, we should try to urge him to pick up some installment of CITY.

>>89879275
Maybe he's so religious that depicting knowledge and the implication of a round earth got him offended?

>>89879029
Speaking of games, has anyone played OBSTACLE? What is it even about?

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I want my dryad milf.

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>>89879667
I think the five billion trial missions in the beginning put people off, added to the fact that it's all in Japanese.
Also, installing it was a pain. I still haven't bothered following Bitches' guide to getting it to work yet.

>>89877921
NO.

Someone should make a homebrew rpg for /tg/ to enjoy.

I'm sure they'll gobble this right up.

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>>89881087
It's already set in stone because drama CD.

>>89881126
There has been a lot of talking about it but I'm not sure if someone has actually manned up and started writing.

In other news, Aoi Nagisa is also a fan of Horizon.
http://twitpic.com/cr36z2
Doujins where?

>>89881763
To be fair, sometimes VAs are changed for anime. Remember Lucky Star?

>>89881763
NOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK.

We better get Norio Wakamoto as someone.

>>89882584
She's not that bad.
I'd recommend giving the CD a listen through even if you don't know Japanese, if only for Noriki/Nenji as Sayama.
It's on Bitches' mediafire.

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>>89881957
I know that even Kawakami approves of h-doujins of his work, but I still find it heretical.
Except the ones involving canon pairings, I'm indifferent to those.

>>89878437
>From left to right:
>Rensha-ou (FORTH era)
>Owari no Chronicle (AHEAD era)
>Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon (GENESIS era)
>Obstacle Overture (Android game) (OBSTACLE era)
>CITY series (CITY era)

Ok. So how far apart in timeline do each of these Eras are? IIRC Owari should be like 1000 years or so before Horizon right?

>>89882759
Why not just pay attention to it and note who's talking? It's pretty much just certain dialogue parts from 1A and 1B. I did that for the poison cup & Sf scenes a few days ago actually.

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>>89883633
I don't think we've been given actual hard numbers on how much time any era encompasses (except FORTH, maybe), so I think that'd be hard to say without wild assumptions.
There's another era between AHEAD and GENESIS, EDGE, which doesn't have any media set in it yet.
The eras are defined by their properties and stages of human civilisation, so it wouldn't surprise me if some were drastically shorter than others. (I could imagine AHEAD being the shortest)

I think there's a link to a considerably long page on the subject in the FAQ of every Horizon general on 2ch, but that's obviously in Japanese so yeah.

>>89883874
Yeah, I listened through it before the translation even started though.
I guess I can do it again once the entirety of V1 is complete and I can actually figure out what they're talking about.

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Is kugurie that bad, really?

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>>89887829
Not really, she was great as Koto in Kyousogiga, and her Shinjou voice on the drama CD really isn't half bad.
http://nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2644328

>>89872470
Are you retarded? It's not even that hard to understand what's going on. Even k-on requires much more processing power than hurrizon.

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>>89891274
>hurrizon
Please go and stay go.

>>89891445
Yeah, until it`s time to bump again!

When Js06 will return to OnC, by the way?

>>89891445
No.

>>89891568
After he finishes Zashiki Warashi, I guess. And whatever else he is translating.

>>89892329

Looks like he finished Zashiki. So he'll probably work on Daimaou and OnC again.

>>89892542
That instils hope. I want to wake up to a fresh chapter again. ;_;

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6A and 6B scans when.

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>>89896233
August, I think.
Translations never though.

>>89896742
Hey, trust in our translator anon. He's busy now, but some day he will get there.

http://pastebin.com/u/midorikasa

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>>89896733
Nice.
Was there ever a face in this logo, or am I imagining things?

>>89896912
It's coming.

>>89896991
I CAN FEEL IT

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>>89896980
I based it off of this, so no.

>>89897071
Legs will need additional work, I think.

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>>89896838
QualityT-anon is doing God's work, yeah, but the time it'd take for any (human) translator to get all the way up to the current releases is almost forever.
Still, I'm thankful.