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http://pastebin.com/w0gRFM0c
http://pastebin.com/xUufY26D

Guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QkKNc3AYP5sOv23FRjBoCs2dDzHN83BuT1T_aRU21t0/edit

Reading List:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Agk2IH0ZXhn7dDNmSW1BVFU5dVgyOHkzWjU4b2l2dkE
#l/a/nguage on irc.rizon.net

Previous Thread:
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/90818964/

http://jisho.org/kanji/details/直
直接
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http://jisho.org/kanji/details/失
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Wow, this kanjitomo program is pretty nifty. It can recognise things even with really shitty picture quality.
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http://jisho.org/kanji/details/弱
弱者
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幸運
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両親
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http://jisho.org/kanji/details/母
お母さん
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僕の伝記
【任】と【妊】は同じの音読みを持っています
面白いな
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市場
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姉妹
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>>90886713

God damn, I always thought that was a single vertical line.
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>>90886899
So did i, and that's how I'll continue writing it.
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>>90886951
You will be laughed at by the superior Nips.
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>>90886713
>>90886899
My entire life is a life...
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>>90886684

Why is かあ not listed as a reading for this one?
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>>90886951
me 2

based as fuck
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How do I update my deck without adding a bunch of duplicates?
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あなた達のお嫁さんはみんな美人で素晴らしい人です
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I cannot for the life of me find the stroke order for

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>>90887420
>みんな
What is the purpose of that in this sentence?
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OP-sama

do you know of a list of non-joyo non-jinmeiyo kanji that is used in... modern writings?

I learned things like 贏 譏 讒 about a month back.
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>>90887665

Are you retarded?
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>>90887665
http://jisho.org/kanji/details/%E5%AF%85
dis nigga...
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>>90887807
>spoonfeeding
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>>90887239
All of those kinds of words are exceptions.
お母さん、お父さん、お兄さん、叔父、伯父、小父
This is probably one of the few things worth complaining about.
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>>90887735
All of yall's wives are beautiful and wonderful people.
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>>90888491

So some of the most common and popular readings are exceptions deemed not worth listing in dictionaries?
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>>90886741

出た!
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>>90887740
The best I can tell you is kanken or this http://kakijun.jp/main/jis1_ichiran.html
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>>90887735

Emphasis, like saying "no exceptions".
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>>90888545
You have to attach honorifics to use them and 御 is usually accompanied so I can understand why they would just brand those exceptions because they don't stand alone, i.e., you can't just say とう and mean father.
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>>90888777

I don't see how that makes them different from "regular" onyomi.
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>>90888777
You get little kids saying that kind of thin, don't you?
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>>90888545
当然でしょう
あなたは皆の日本人に嫌われます
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>>90888619
>出た
>not キタ━━━(゚∀゚)━━━!!
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>>90888856
なら納得
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>>90888833
Because onyomi is a borrowed pronunciation. You can't just brand shit onyomi it has to actually be onyomi. If anything it would be kunyomi.
>>90888839
No one says shit like とう or かあ ever.
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>>90888856
>皆の日本人
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>>90888833
Nitpick: They would be (if they weren't already) kunyomi
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>tfw reading half a page without consulting the dictionary
>tfw when playing a VN without needing the dictionary for every line

It pays off. All of that work is actually paying off!
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>>90889124
文句あるか
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>>90889373

>That first time I was able to go through a whole chapter of yotsuba without having to look anything up

I'll never forget that feeling.
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So I've been going through Tae Kim for a few days now, taking notes and doing the exercises. I'm wondering about Anki though; I've been doing KD but that doesn't cover vocab, and I've heard going Core2k random order is a bad idea. How do I reorder them?
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Question. Can you literally add お to the begining of everything to make it sound polite?
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>>90889647
お正しい
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>>90889396
そうです
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One question: what's the criteria when choosing the kanji for the DJT? I noticed some of them are JLPT N5 level, others, I don't even know.

>>90889647
I don't think it applies to everything, but only when you are addressing that thing. Like お客and 客 (Okyaku / Kyaku).
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>>90889631
It's the default setting
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>>90889647
おまんこ
おちんちん
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>>90889834
#trippy

...But does that mean I just add words as I encounter them? I don't understand.
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>>90889647
I'm not sure if you can technically but just don't and just use お when お is usually used because it's going to sound fucked up either way if you use it on the wrong words.
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>>90889956
Simply put, I don't know how I should vocab.
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>>90889631

KD does have vocabulary in it, but it's not very efficient to learn it in the same batch as the kanji itself.

I always pick out all the kunyomi and jukugo given on the cards and add them to my personal vocabulary deck to study them on their own.
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>>90889956
>>90890001
Download the core2k deck and don't do anything to the settings. It should be fine.
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お腹がいっぱいいれば、勉強することもっと効率的だ
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>>90890039
So just go through them in the regular order? That's simple enough. Thanks.
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I tried using the real-time import feature of rikaisama, but after adding one thing to my deck, it says everything else that I try to add is a duplicate. This is in a deck with currently only 4 cards.

Has that happened to any of you before?
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>>90887365
go into the card template from the browser and delete the other tabs at the top
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>>90890091
お腹が精液でいっぱいの場合は?
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I wish Rikaisama would just let me zoom into a kanji by hovering into it without giving the meaning away.
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>>90890333
食べ物より精液の方がいい
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>>90890214
Nevermind, I just had to restart anki. I'm not sure if Otokogumi is the greatest place to start, since 刑務所 is the third thing I'm adding to my vocab deck.
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>>90890401
windoze has a magnifying glass. There are probably other applications that do what you want to do too.
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>>90890401
Why don't you increase your faunt or just ctrl +/- or ctrl scroll?
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>>90890488
なるほど、参考になった
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Does anyone knows why it looks different?
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>>90890792

Your font may be optimized for Chinese script, which has subtle differences.
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>>90890792

Stop using chrome.
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>>90890848

Anyone have some examples of kanji that are affected by this? I'm trying to figure out if any of my fonts are like that.
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>>90890598
Does anki stop you when you've learned a certain amount of cards in one session? Say I want to do 20 new ones a day, will I have to keep track myself?
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>>90891402

That's kind of what this setting is for dude.
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>>90891479
So it stops on it's own? Great.
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>>90891349

Any Kanji using the 糸 radical, like 紙.
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>>90888833
It might be in the same category as words like 今日, where 今 and 日 don't have きょ and う, respectively, as readings on their own.
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What's with this sentence?

だから: therefore
こんあ: this kind of
バカ: idiot
は: topic
もう: already
絶対に: absolutely
しない: not do
と: quoting particle
約束しよう: let's promise
じゃないか: question

So you've got something about this kind of idiot already making a promise to not do something. It's not clear from the conversation what kind of idiot she's referring to
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>>90889982
お俺おはお日本おです
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恐怖で人縛る事が上に立つの者為すべき事ではない筈だ

Can someone help me word this in in a way that doesn't sound like babbling and is that が n the right place? It feels like there should be a comma there or a pause.
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>>90891969
おおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおお俺はおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおおきれいです。
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>>90892207
最高丁寧ですね
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>>90891833
>こんな
She promises that she will definitely absolutely (maybe? what I'm a slut) not do dumbasses anymore.
Yes
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>>90891969
>>90892207
自重っていう言葉、聞いたコトある?
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>>90892564
何それ
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>>90891833
Sounds like it should be バカな事

>>90892177
Given that it makes 0 sense, no I can't help. Say it in English.
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ちょトマト
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>>90886387 (OP)
In Heisig, the keyword for 直 was "straightaway", and I always thought it meant a straight road. This is why keywords don't work.
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>>90892177
Isn't it just a leader shouldn't rule by force? Are you retarded?

Christ just give up already faggot,
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>>90894629
トマト?
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>>90894785
Tomatoes frighten me.
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>>90894713
What? I'm just asking for someone to help me word it out is all but I did realize I fucked it up a bit.

恐怖で人縛る事が上に立つ者の為すべき事ではない筈だ

It still sounds weird though i sounds more like he's talking about something else
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Message to people taking Japanese in the fall semester since mods deleted advice thread:

Most autismal weebs will drop out after Japanese II. It's one of those universal laws that nobody can explain.

Most people pretend to be normalfags that "just happened to fall into the class by mistake" or they will pretend that they have a desire to be a professional jap/english translator for the government (doesn't exist lol.)

The key to finding acceptable 3D friendos in such classes is to find people who are unashamed of their power levels yet self-aware enough to know that they need to hide them. The problem is that most self-aware weeaboos tend to either commit Drew Carey or sink into their autism and live in their parents' basements forevermore. Always remember that you are dealing with broken and sad human beings like yourself and not to be too judgmental.

Really remember when you are in class that you are no better than anyone there. You are part of the piss in the ocean of piss, anon. If you put yourself on a pedal stool you will be no better than that one mildly attractive girl in your lecture hall who will demand constant attention from every lonely and repulsive beta in the audience.

One last thing. The native Japanese people that will be instructing the class (if you go to a legitimate university) were raised on Japanese principles. That means that no matter what they say to you they hate you and think less of you than they do a cockroach. Do not try to befriend them. They will surely be making fun of you behind your back. Good luck.
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>>90894882
Post it in fucking english you fucking retard fuck
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>>90894920
>professional jap/english translator for the government (doesn't exist lol.)

what government? you can translate professionally for State/whatever your country's foreign service is.
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>>90894690
>This is why keywords don't work.
No heisig just fucking sucks.
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>>90894690
>thinks the word means not what it really means
>waah, it is keywords' fault, not mine

Check this, brah http://www.thefreedictionary.com/straightaway
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>>90894920
Thanks, man, you basically confirmed what I thought. All the guys I talked to took 2 semesters if japanese max, but, thanks to these threads, I tested out of Japanese 2 and I will start Japanese 3 next semester.

Hiding power level is the key to everything
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>>90895352
Unless you meant to say something like
>thinks the word doesn't mean what it may mean
>waah, it is keywords' fault, not mine

Then you better read what you try to post

Actually, you don't really have any excuse. The guy's shit blogging but whatever.
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Today's reading exercise:

Azumanga Daioh
Volume 3, "October, Part 1"
Previous chapter: >>90687383

(1/8)
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>>90894920
> The native Japanese people that will be instructing the class (if you go to a legitimate university)
This part is bullshit. Non-natives can often be better teachers, as long as they have spent a bunch of time in the country and speak fluently.
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>>90896132
(2/8)
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>>90896152
(3/8)
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>>90896172
(4/8)
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>>90896195
(5/8)
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>>90894920
>Really remember when you are in class that you are no better than anyone there.
kekled
You don't have to be narcissistic to know that most of the people around you are shit.
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>>90896149
Case in point: Señor Chang from Community.
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>>90896227
(6/8)
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>>90896259
(7/8)
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>>90896149
The part that's bullshit is the part after it.
And that as well.
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>>90896284
(8/8)
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>>90894920

Weebs actually take classes? Don't they all learn Japanese by using anki and fapping to VNs?

Funny thing is, they're probably learning more than class plebs.
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>>90896251
Yeah, using a sitcom as an example really helps your case.
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So I'm trying out the Core2K deck. Just a really really basic question as I get started. How do I answer the example sentences after they show you the new word? Should I be trying to understand the entire sentence before clicking good?
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>>90896435
Basically I'm not sure if they are just there to show you how the word is used in a sentence, or what. I just can't really get through them yet without looking up almost all the nouns / verbs / etc.
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>>90896435
>>90896715
Sorry to ask a lot of questions. Also should I cram the Kanji in the vocab? Or wait until I get to it in Kanjidamage and just focus on remembering the sounds?
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行く秋の
土に収まる
蛙哉
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do you mix your kanji vocab words with your vocab words not in kanji?
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>>90894920
I don't know about that last point... I became friends with two of the Japanese TAs from my beginner classes. It's funny when we go out and they get drunk and start waxing philosophic on the most bizarre shit.

But yeah, JPN 101 was the pits. The lecture hall was packed wall to wall with people on the first day. About a third dropped out by midterm. Then JPN 102 and 103 rolled around and classes got smaller and smaller. Day one of 103, there were only 15 of us. Only 10 made it through.

I'm taking 301 in the fall, and so far only 6 others besides myself have registered. The 350 classes (high advanced, i.e., for those with near-native fluency) are always on the verge of being cancelled because so few people progress far enough to register.

I suppose most classes with ever higher tiers are like this, but the attrition rate of the Japanese program compared to the Spanish and German programs is astonishing. I think only the Arabic and Russian programs do worse.
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>>90897053
>The 350 classes (high advanced, i.e., for those with near-native fluency)
You mean "high advanced, i.e., for those who know over 1000 kanji" right?
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>お金があればいいね。
>お金があったらいいね。

Tae Kim tried explaining the difference between them but i honestly don't see it. Help.
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>>90896435
>kanji
If you don't have problems learning the kanji via words or you don't plan on studying writing then you don't need to study kanji elsewhere.
>word or sentence
If you focus on the word then you can use the sentence for context, either as a clue or for clarifying how the word is actually used. It's much faster to do than testing yourself on the whole sentence.

If you test yourself on the whole sentence then you are not only testing yourself on individual words but also on grammar.

I'd recommend you focus on the words and get your reading practice via actual reading.
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>>90897188
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1115354691
「AばB」
典型的な条件表現で、Bの部分(結果)より、Aの部分(条件そのもの)のほうを重視するときに使います。

「AたらB」
「ば」と異なり、AよりB(結果・帰結)の内容を重視します。
こちらは主に、個別的、一回限りのことに使います。
また、時間が経てば実現することも、「ば」ではなく「たら」を使います。
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>>90897198
ok thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
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>>90897338
Basically AばB puts focus on the condition or A and AたらB puts more focus on the result or B.
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>>90897179
No, I mean they read, write, and speak like goddamn natives. They hold mock debates on current Japanese politics and have to turn in 30-page reports exclusively in Japanese because, surprise, a good deal of them transfer to Japanese universities to complete their degrees.

It's both inspiring and frightening.
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>>90897053

Maybe fewer people have the language aptitude and/or perseverance necessary to make it all the way through a university Japanese program. Let's look at kanji alone:

Year - Number of kanji you need to know:
end of year 1: 250
end of year 2: 600
end of year 3: 1000
end of year 4: 2150

How many people can learn all that?
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>>90897659
Holy shit in 3 months i learned what they learn in 4 years, i'm a fucking genius.
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>>90897659
not much for a whole year
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>>90897544
Well shit, that's pretty impressive for a university program. Doesn't sound like it would be passable without studying abroad though, but I guess people who are that serious about japanese should be doing a full year abroad or so anyway.
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>>90897732
What was your setup and what methods did you use?
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>>90897732
To be fair, they don't just learn kanji, and have to usually work on 4 other courses at the same time.
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>>90897732
Please don't equate your shitty KD "knowing kanji" with actually knowing the language.
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>>90897787
I did around 30 kanji a day, 30 vocab from core deck, and read at least 50 manga/10 LN pages a day.
>>90897831
Kanji took the least time out of my daily studying.
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>>90897929
God damn you had some free time.
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>>90897929
What deck did you use for kanji?
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>>90897732
It took you three months to learn 2150 kanji?
Fucking step it up, pleb.
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So what does knowing kanji mean here on /a/?

You just recognise it and know what it means, or do you know all it's readings too?
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>>90898074
KD.
>>90898062
Not really, anki took 1-2 hours at first, not it takes like 30 minutes. Reading is around 40 minutes-1 hour. If anything i feel like i don't study enough.
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>>90898143
It doesn't mean anything anywhere. "knowing kanji" is something people who still suck at Japanese use to brag about how much they know despite not actually being able to read the language.
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Nice
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>応無所住而生其心(おう・む・しょ・じゅう・に・しょう・ご・しん)
Th-Thanks.
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>>90897732
>>90897752
>>90898091
>>90898239

I seriously wonder about the retention level and practical use of blitzing the jouyou kanji in 3 months.

I'm that guy using WaniKani, and I think the pace is fine.
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>>90898595
>wanikani
LEL

enjoy being jewed
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>>90898595
Retention doesn't actually matter that much, since most learning is done once you start reading anyway.
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我是中国人。你好吗?
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>>90898742
ニーハオ
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>>90898742
貴方こそチングチョングピングポングなのです
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>>90898910
나도 중국어를 배우고 싶어요!
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>>90894920
>pedal stool
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I've started learning Hiragana and Katakana a few days ago.
Is it wise to memorize both at the same time or should learning stick with hira/kata first then focus on the other?
I'm afraid of unable to distinguish which is which after learning both at the same time.
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何これ!?俺様は犬じゃない。
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>>90899447
I learned all the hiragana first, then all the katakana. I think it's better to focus on one at a time so you don't get them mixed up. In general, katakana have more sharp lines and angles than hiragana.
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>>90899588
That's what I thought too.
Guess I'll go with that.
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>>90899645
use hieseg method
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>>90899447
Nothing having to do with learning Kana besides the act of learning it matters in the larger scale of learning Japanese. That is to say that any sort of optimization of learning kana is wasted effort. You're over thinking something that you should be through with in a week, and is really just you opening the door, and is your first experience learning something in moon. You're going to have to try your hand at the self analysis and adjustment game on your own in the future, and now's as good a time as any to get a start.
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>>90899447
Write them.
Make a chart and write them over and over and over until you can write 'em without lookin at the chart.
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>>90899751
>heisig for kana
pls no
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>>90899834
hieseg is the best method.
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>>90899982
but if you don't know the story behind か then you won't know how to read it ;)
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>>90900033
bait
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>>90899817
Isn't using the site more than enough?
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I can recall the reading and the meaning of words pretty easily, but I have a really hard time going in the other direction. Is that normal? I recognise what something means when I see it, but going backwards from the definition, I just can't visualise the kanji.
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>>90900324
Recall is always easier than reproduction. It just takes more time and practice.
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Hey, new guy here. I checked out all the OP stuff and it's insanely useful, thanks to the community for putting it all together. I learned hiragana and katakana a few years ago, but I took Chinese in high school so I thought it best to do one language at a time, especially since using the same characters for two languages might get a bit confusing.

Quick question, about what level will I need to be at to read things like Yotsuba or Pokemon or something of similar difficulty?
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>>90900385
You should read up on grammar, and you'd probably be able to start straight away.
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>>90900127
Yeah use whatever you want but write them over and over, making a chart helped me.
You can do the same shit with kanji, though some people say its a waste but, imo, its the best way to remember shit.
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>>90899982
Heisig has a nice order for learning them, at least.
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What's with Tae Kim and not having part of the vocabulary in the examples?
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which kanji wud u fuq
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>>90900385
Some grammar, some Vocab and you're ready to go
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>>90900773
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>>90900385
Learn kanji individually.
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>>90900773
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>>90900773
I'm torn betwen 母 and 妹
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>>90900385
>Yotsuba and Pokemon

This is literally the best thing for beginners. If this is what you wanted to read/play anyways, then you will learn stuff while having fun
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>>90900385
I would say finish a beginner course such as Genki I+II, and then try it. Don't spend time trying to memorize or perfect anything, just read through it all. Then when you are reading you can think "Oh, this looks familiar" and you'll know what to look up in the book, if you don't already remember it.

I had a really hard time with Pokemon, no furigana and tiny kanji made it a pain to look them up. Furigana just makes things so much easier.
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>>90901159
Which Pokemon game did you play? I played FR/LG and it was all かな.
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>>90901159
Black 2 I think. They let you choose between kanji and kana now, but I need both! I'm not even sure if I made it to the first gym or not.
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I used to have trouble remembering the difference between 待つ and 持つ, and then I used the mnemonic that the left half of 待 is more "open" like your mouth is when you say "あぁぁぁ" and the left half of 持 i more closed like your mouth is when you say "おぉぉぉ."
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Guys I think I figured out how the hell 鳥 resembles a bird.
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>>90901853
持つ HAS an extra line
待つ is WAITING for that extra line to be drawn

Original mnemonic, do not steal.
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>>90900385
What a stupid fucking face.
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>>90901958
wat
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>>90901240
Play the newer ones. I think that starting with Black&White (I know for a fact there is furigana in B&W2) you will have kanji
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>>90902017
So does the line above the 亻 not count?
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>>90902168
What's not to get?
tail + 羽 + 頁(head) is basically the parts that make a bird. Since that's a pain in the ass to draw you just fucking mesh them together and then over time that character changes a little bit.
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What verb do you use to say "to wear glasses"? Like 眼鏡を〇〇?
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>>90901853
How's about 持つ has the fucking hand radical because it's "to hold" and 待つ is that other one
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>>90902444
掛ける
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>>90902260
Maybe it isn't a good one for writing, but it helps me tell them apart when I'm reading.
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>>90901853
>>90902017
お前ら馬鹿だぞ。これ見てよ。
>持つ
>手の部首
手では何をするんだ?持つんに決まってんだろう。
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>>90902712
So does anyone know why Genki doesn't teach the kanji for some words, including かける which is apparently 掛ける? This isn't the first time, either.
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>>90901958
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>>90902801
Kanji for kakeru as a verb isn't used often
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I have a possible recommendation for the pastebin. It's called Human Japanese and it explains things in a very straightforward, almost conversational way. I'm not sure how good it is overall since I'm still pretty new but the style might be really useful for some people, and it's worked great for me so far.

http://www.humanjapanese.com/features.html
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/4764984/Human_Japanese_Version_2
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>>90902800
手で主にオナニするんだけど、あまりあまり役に立ちはしないね
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>>90904262
>あまり
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>>90901958
>thinking kanji actually resemble concepts they refer to
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>>90904924
>what is 会意 and 象形
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So I've got a question about the Anki Core 2k decks.

Along with making my own deck from shit I see around I'd really like to get another deck to make some more solid and regimented progress.

Looking on the Anki website there are 11 or so different decks listed in as Step 01, Step 02, and so on.

How do these work exactly? Are all 2000 split up between all these decks so I just do one of the steps at a time?

Is there a reason for them being split up like that?
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>>90905438
cool, was about to ask this exact same thing
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>>90905438
>>90905647
There should be one that has all 2000. I'll never understand why someone separated them like that.

It might be better to do JLPT decks instead, I think you will get more useful words that way. Core2k has quite a few business/financial words. When I start using Anki again, I'm doing JLPT order.
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淫夢

I learned a new word.
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Question: According to Genki, if I want to use two adjectives in one sentence to say something like "You are fat and ugly," I can say 「あなたは太くて見苦しいです。」 and if I want to say "You are fat and not ugly" I can say 「あなたは太くて見苦しくありません。」 How do I say "You are not fat and ugly" without changing the order of the adjectives?
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>>90906301
「太くなくて見苦しい」と思う
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>>90906166
If you just get the CorePLUS deck, it has the Core2k plus all the JLPT stuff plus all the Genki stuff.
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>>90906380
>>90906166
is this the right deck?
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/4221416043

the link for the images is dead because megaupload link and I was wondering how I can get the sounds to work
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>>90906378
How does it work for な adjectives, like if I were to say "not beautiful and fat"?
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>>90906616
綺麗じゃなくて見苦しい
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>>90906533
The one I downloaded that has JLPT + Core2k + Genki is https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/194665997. As for audio, I personally don't use it so I have no idea, unfortunately.
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>>90906657
>見苦しい
太い*
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>>90906657
ありがとう。あなたはきれいですごいです。
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>>90906667
thanks, i'll start doing that deck then.

what's a reasonable amount of new cards a day?
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I am so fucked right now as I try to begin learning kanji. I am struggling to figure out when to use on-yomi and kun-yomi when reading a word. Anyone have tips to clarify this?

I'm using Kanjidamage btw
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>>90906785
We've talked about it everyday for like the last ten so just ctrl f through the threads.
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>>90906785
Did you read the kanji facts?
Its the only useful shit in KD.
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>>90906948
I read through all of the introduction and history pages and took some notes. It seems to make sense until I see things like 二日(ふつか). It isn't supposed to have "ni" in it somewhere, since it should be read with its on-yomi?
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Can we have a blog thread?
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>>90907216
this stuff put me off too
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>>90907216
>二日
>日
>suffix, counter
It's a counter for days of the month in this instance.
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>>90907216
> It isn't supposed to have "ni" in it somewhere, since it should be read with its on-yomi?
There are a lot of exceptions to kunyomi only being used byself and onyomi being used only in other kanji. Native Japanese words are going to be read with kunyomi a lot of the time and borrowed words will usually always be read with the onyomi. The first 10 days are read with kunyomi.
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>>90907457
下げのつもりじゃなかった
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>>90907293
明日シコるつもり
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>>90907216
>It isn't supposed to have "ni" in it somewhere, since it should be read with its on-yomi?
Most of the time it'll be on'yomi, but it's not that rare to see words like that use either readings that aren't usually listed (今日, 昨日) or kun'yomi (書留, 手袋). Just assume it's on'yomi while keeping in mind that's not always the case.
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>>90907493
大したことじゃないから恐れ入れなくてもいい
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>>90907524
今日はやらないか?なぜ?
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>>90906533
Audio goes in
My Documents/Anki/DeckName.media
folder. You will most likely have to create it.

Honestly, images are a crutch anyway. Most of the time you won't remember the meaning of the word, but the meaning of the picture. I also quit using audio just because I got sick of listening to the same sentences over and over.

>>90906380
>>90906667
I use the CorePLUS deck, but I'm always hesitant to recommend it because the default card layout is absolute shit, and a newbie shouldn't have to go through the trouble of changing it just to get started.
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>>90906301
You wouldn't. You're trying to force things into a particular grammatical structure. Stop that.
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>>90907661
オナるのは一日置き
毎日するとあんま気持ちよくなくなる
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>>90907948
>毎日するとあんま気持ちよくなくなる
我慢できないからこっちなら仕方ない
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>>90908082
我慢より暇の問題だと思う。今は夏休みだからほぼ毎日やってるけど、忙しい時は二三日経っても平気だ。

ところで、これはオナニーの話じゃなくて、大麻の話だ
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>>90908353
420 blaze it bro xDDD
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>>90908353
さすがアメリカ人め
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>>90907940
Oh man oh man. How do I get my deck to look like that? It's beautiful.

This font size default. Google hasn't helped.
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>>90908353
ブレイズ・イット・エブリーデイ
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>>90908412
どもども~
褒美としてこのかわいい画像をおかずにしてオナって下さいまし
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>>90908553
HTML and CSS. If you have no idea how either works, then you might be better of just copying the template from an already styled one.
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>>90908677
>implying I can get of to three black lines
I'm what you might call a "hardcore masturbatour". I'm going to need at least a dozen and then a story on top of that.
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>>90908704
Well shit. I don't about things like that.
If there is no way I could steal yours?

I've not been able to find something like that after looking for a bit. Or maybe I'm just dumb.
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>>90909138
I'll post it in like 30 minutes, doing something right now.
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>>90909304
You're the best, Anon. Thank you so much. This will make everything so much better.
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>勃り起った肉棒
勃り起ったの読み方は?
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>>90909581
おこりたった
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>>90909581
間違ってたんじゃないの?
勃起は英語で「erection」だから
動詞じゃないんだけど…
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>>90909733
ありがとう
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>>90909532
http://pastebin.com/SNwESA5d

The 3 different sections are marked like ###THIS###, those labels don't actually go into the layout.

Stroke order font is here if you don't have it:
https://sites.google.com/site/nihilistorguk/
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>>90886387 (OP)
I hate this kanji along with 値. Surprisingly others that use it are easy.
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>>90900773
Hiragana is more sexy.
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>>90910562
It's cute not sexy.
I would enjoy if there was a script that somehow managed to entice me sexually. I bet it can be done.
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>>90910456
Thank you. I'll get to setting that up right now.
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Fuckin Namasensei's adjective tutorial (part 4) always kills me. This is twice I've stopped studying because he throws so many adjectives at you in the middle of learning hiragana.

Considering skipping that and learning all the hiragana first...
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>>90910456
Thank you so fucking much Anon. I could cry this is the greatest thing I've ever seen.
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>>90890021
My personal KD's jukugo deck is at 760 words after 360 kanji. If you add kunyomi, whole KD should have 4-6k vocab.
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>>90911099
Forget everything else and just learn the kana first. I also recommend not watching Namasensei, but some disagree.
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>>90911276
Do you add words for every kanji? How do you choose what words to add? Sometimes KD gives examples that seem rare and useless at this point.
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>>90911348
I started out watching his videos because they helped a lot and they were motivational, but I've noticed that since I pulled up hiragana stroke order, his videos have kind of lost their purpose. I look at a stroke order chart now and it fills the same role his videos did...
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>>90911099
Here, take these

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qch89hlrmhknabv/FP3w9Rklcj

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hb8prxxx8zpm473/KWVpR9tQHj

No need for namasenseis kana lessons. You can write 'em on your own if you want for practice, but it literally takes like 3 hours with these to learn all the kana. You might wanna read through them a couple times. Hiragana a few times over until you know 'em then move on over to Katakana and do the same thing.
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>>90911488
Wow, these look great. Thanks a ton.
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kemistry set is much easier to remember than a McDonalds DLT sandwich.
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What's the difference between 気持ち and 感じる? Is 気持ち more emotional and 感じる more physical? Other way around?
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鶏がなんで道を渡りましたか?
別な側に行きたいから。
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>>90911405
Everything. Still better than business crap. JLPT vocab is best for for common words anyway.
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>>90911926
ワロタ
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>>90911866
I would say 気持ち is strictly emotional, and 感じる can be used for both emotions and other stuff. Just look it up in a japanese dictionary.
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私の伝記
今日は走りました
とっても痛いです
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What does 一度あたり mean?
Sentence is
一度あたりの回数が増えていく、俺たちのキス
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>>90912457
Maybe something like "(with) each occurrence"? That kind of seems to make sense with the results on google.
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Hey, person new to Japanese here. I have a quick question. Is 高くない supposed to be 'たかいくない' or 'たかくない'? I've just started reading Tae Kim and it didn't seem too clear.
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>>90912878
>たかくない
This is the correct one. The pronunciation of the kanji stays the same when conjugating a verb.
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>>90912934
Thanks a lot.
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>>90912457
>>90912740
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>>90913746
アリスマーガトロイドは俺の一番好きな東方少女ですよ
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I have to phone someone in Japan
Suddenly my reps mean nothing
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I wish I wasn't a NEET so I could buy some physical books, I hate trying to learn from PDFs.
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>>90914446
>PDF's
get 青空文庫 format txt files and read them via a 青空文庫 reader program or app.
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>Doing grammar
>Learning という,
oh, I understand this....
>リブートというのは、パソコンを再起動するということです。
Fuck you Japan. Fuck you.

Could someone explain this sentence to me? More specifically, I don't understand what こと is doing here.
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>>90912384
>私の伝記
→私の日記

伝記→a biography
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>>90914954
That was deliberate.
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俺は日本!
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>>90915178
韓国が貴様を食べる!
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>>90915128
i m embarassing.....
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>>90915178
>>90915281
It's people like you that made learning Japanese confusing as fuck for me.
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>>90915339
*embarassed

Embarassing means you make other people feel embarassed.
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>>90915339
>>90915493
*embarrass
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>>90915493
Extremely embarassed............
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>>90886623
幸せ is much common reading, why not included?
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>>90915716
確かそうですね。まぁ単なるミスなんでしょうけど。

てか嘘教えてる人いるんだけど、真面目にやってる人達を混乱させるのは良くないですよ。
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What's a 買取票?

Is it like an order form?
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For jukugo with multiple readings, how do you know which one to use when both fit the context? Like 明日 being あした or あす.
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>>90916835
あした basic
あす a little more formal
みょうにち Most formal
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>>90914153
英語が話すますか turned out to be all the Japanese I needed to know
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>>90917705
>話すますか
wat
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>>90917751
oh, 話しますか
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お前らの書き込み見てたら日本語ってこんな難しかったのかって改めて思うわwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
20代以降に初めて上手く話せる様な奴いるけどあいつら天才だな、一体何が見えてんだよwww
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Can someone comment on the decks I've got going? I added them at random when I was starting out and now it just looks like a complete mess
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>>90918347
decks?
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>>90918321
>初めて
Oh! miss convert!
始めて
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>>90918396
you're so sharp that your japanese maybe good than native japanese
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>>90918387

I don't know what you need so many for.

The Core2000 deck I have has all of the words from the smaller decks in one. The Genki deck has the vocabulary used in the Genki textbooks. KD is all I use for kanji, personal vocab is self-explanatory.

I don't know what your progress in all of those decks is but I'd consider removing or at least suspending some of them. Seems like there'd be a lot of duplicates across all of them, too.
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>>90918486
Yep there are a fair amount of duplicates. But I've already spent 2 months in self study so am about half way into most of the current ones. Probably just need to spend some time re-organizing everything one day
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>>90918669
I agree with him. I wouldn't even need the 2k deck if i had gotten the 6k one from the start.
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>>90916157
p-pls respond

It's some kind of form you fill out but I don't know what the name would be in English.
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>>90918945
Could it be a receipt?
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>>90919072
I think you may be right, it does look one.
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>>90918486
I believe it isn't wrong to have some duplicates but maybe across two or three decks (to strengthen your grasp on, let's say, basic vocab by adding JLPT deck), not nine. I assume that when you have many decks there will be days when you get nothing but duplicates (read: just additional reviews) so learning would be quite irregular even if you study every day. It might also divide attention too much but that's just my speculation.
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>>90918945
a form used when you sell something to a shop

or an order form
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>>90919371
Yea it definitely feels like that. It's just that I'm reluctant to outright delete the decks since I've sunk a fair amount of time into them.
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So is CorePLUS the deck to go for an all in 1 vocab workout?
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/194665997
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>>90919733
What does the second word mean?
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>>90919968

Penis.
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>>90919559
JLPT N5 is easy stuff and you most likely already 'know' 70-90% of it from anime, just make the connection with kanji (well, quite a lot is kana anyway) so I would up reviews there and finish it quickly, especially since you'll meet those words the most, so they'll help you read the most. Same with other small and/or easy decks. You could shift more of your attention to bigger decks then.

Aren't you confused using several kanji decks? Meanings are somewhat arbitrary, they probably differ quite a lot between decks. With vocab it's good to look at things from different perspective to get nuance but I doubt it is of any help for kanji.
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So why does あの mean both "that..(over there)" and "umm.."

I can't seem to get different kanji ways of typing them either, is it a purely contextual thing?
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>>90920143

Because they just happen to sound similar.

And あのぉぉ。。。 doesn't sound the same as あの男.
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Anyone have any experience ordering LNs from amazon.co.jp? Do they even ship internationally?
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>>90920143
You don't watch anime? "umm.." is usually pronounced with a pause, "that..(over there)" is in the middle of sentence, pointing at something.
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>>90920212
>You don't watch anime?
not really.

>>90920212
>>90920196
Thanks I guess that makes sense when used in speech, it was just giving me a little trouble doing reviews on it.
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>>90920143
why "that" means such and relative pronoun and demonstrative?
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>>90920143
Words can have more than one and even very unrelated meanings.

On the other hand, I've seen "that's..." to mean "umm...". I have no idea if that's just from jap/weeb influence though.
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>>90920361
I know the difference between anos but don't understand ­>relative pronoun and demonstrative
Complicated grammar terms pls go, no one likes you.
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>>90920361
Stop thinking English. Stop learning Japanese. You don't learn a language - you get used to it.
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>>90920568
What's the difference between 漫 and 漫画? First is cultural phenomenon and second is physical book or what?
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>>90920682

The first is a single kanji that doesn't mean anything on its own. The second is the word manga.
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ネジが壊れた
でも本当は陽気で
ひとの良い時計マニア

>A rabbit with a few screws loose, but he's otherwise rather cheery. He's a maniac for people's nice watches.

I'm fuzzy on the second sentence. It's a short profile for a rabbit character in a pirate suit in case someone needs context.


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