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おかえり!
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Is 魔改造 a term for figurine nude mods?
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What have you all been reading lately? How easy/difficult is it compared to your skill level?
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マイワイフは乙女子です。
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How do i type in moonrunes using my amerikan keyboard?
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>>88485072
>What have you all been reading lately?
Your mum
>How easy/difficult
Pretty damn easy.
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>>88485347
By reading the guide
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>>88485473
eh it's too long
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>>88485523
Don't waste your time trying to learn Japanese. It won't end well for you.
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>>88485523
/a/ sure does have a fourth grade reading level.
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>>88485565
>>88485589
but i already know japasene
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>>88485259
「雪国」

Had to read the English language version and then translate a few passages from the original Japanese version for a class project a couple years back. I kinda want to finish the original Japanese version since I received a copy of it as a gift.

It hasn't been easy, but neither has it been as skull-fuckingly difficult as I had once thought it would be.

I'm starting Advanced Japanese in the fall (Japanese Language minor) so hopefully this will give me a leg up.
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嵐に気をつけてね
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>>88485653
>>>/http://www.websudoku.com/
>>>/an/
>>>/ck/
>>>/http://askjeeves.com/
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>>88485769
あいつなんかにレスしないで
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>>88485769
10/10 would clap again
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So at least i can read and write hiragana and katakana with ease, now what should i do? how to learn kanji and grammar, which book i should read?
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>>88485927
帰ってくれ
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Weebs.
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>>88485846
俺の顔中それスレ
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>>88486102
グーグル翻訳を使わないで
意味分かんないし
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You are all wonderful people.
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おんあのことおとこのほとわみずおのんでどます

is this how i weeb
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>>88486331
知ってるから言わなくてもわかるんだよ
>おまえが信じるおまえを信じる
最後の「信じる」は「信じろ」だろう。
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>>88486760
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>>88486408
なるほど、すみません。
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じてんしゃわきいろです

じてんしゃわきいろいです

what is this shit
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>>88487410
It looks like there's a yellow bike, but
>わ
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>>88487410
>わ
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>>88487562
>>88487591
what i was trying to ask is one is kiiro other is kiiroi what's the difference
i'm new btw
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>>88485259
Just finished all 10 volumes of 動物の国, now i'm going to start 荒野に獣慟哭す. Also reading Rance Quest on the side, since the vocab is a little easy compared to other VNs i've tried.
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>>88487690
>i'm new btw
刑事さんありがとう
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私の伝記
今日はスーパに行きました
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>>88487756
did you talk shit about my waifu?
or my mother perhaps?
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>>88487690
数独をして下さい。
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>>88487858
Don't act like a faggot please.
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>>88487842
素敵!
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>>88487842
私はバイトをしました
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>>88487690
well first thing first. The particle わ is not written わ。 It's written は and pronounced わ。 Simple thing to get out of the way.

>What's the difference
The part of speech.
きいろ (adj-na; noun)
きいろい (adj-i)

also >>88487895
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>>88487895
i asked a question in english and all i got was moonrunes if you don't want to answer don't say anything
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>>88488012
ファックオフ
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>>88488012
対処しろ
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Daily reminder that no amount of shitposting will ever make DJT worse than the rest of the Internet where Japanese is learned.
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>>88488193
I didn't even realize how bad that English was until I got to the last sentence and reread it.
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>>88487410
じてんしゃはきいろです。
(The) bike is yellow

きいろいじてんしゃです。
(The) yellow bike

これはきいろいじてんしゃです
This is the yellow bike.
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I'm guessing this is a waste of time.
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>>88488490
now why would you answer me properly that's not how it works you don't belong to this sikrit klub
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>>88488563
正解
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Today's reading exercise:

甲賀三郎『琥珀のパイプ』序
http://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/000221/files/48012_41357.html
By 平林初之輔

 いわゆる文壇の小説家という人たちは、たいてい似たり寄ったりの生活をしている。したがってこれらの人たちが自分の身辺の出来事を報告した小説は、自然、千遍一律に流れやすい。近頃の文壇の作品には特にこの傾向が甚しくなってきた。そこで読者の方からは、何かもっと毛色の変わった、刺激の強い、興味のある読み物を要求してくるようになった。探偵小説は、こうした要求に答えるために生まれてきた新興文芸の一つであると見ることができよう。
 生まれた事情が、そういうわけであるから、探偵小説の作家の方にも毛色の変わった人がずいぶん多い。本書の著者のごときも、変わった方の一人で、ペン・ネームだけを聞くと、戦国時代の武士か何かのようだが、どうして近代人のちゃきちゃき、窒素研究所のラボラトリーで、試験管をいじくることを職業としている工科出身の小壮有為なお役人さんである。
 試験管と探偵小説、お役人さんと小説家、こう並べると雪と炭と並べるのと、大してかわりはないように考える浅はかな人があるかもしれんが、そういう人たちは、ファウストの作者が植物学者だったり、ミゼラブルの作者が政治家であったりしたことをご存じないのである。小説家の生活は原稿とペンとの間にのみ横たわると考えているのである。

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>>88488590
Because you're clearly an idiot or trolling.
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>>88488590
Your post was so bad that it looked like a troll post, that's probably why no one took you seriously
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>>88488669
 私は本書の著者のような多方面な趣味と知識とをもっている作者にして、はじめて、空想と現実との両端をきわめ、詩の世界と科学の世界とをむすびつけることができるのであると思う。そして、このことは、まさに現下文壇の単調を破ることを使命の一つとして生まれてきた探偵小説の作者に、何よりも期待せねばならぬ条件ではなかろうか?
 とりわけ、本書の作者は、探偵小説界における本格派の巨星として一般から期待されている人であるだけ、処女作「琥珀のパイプ」から、最近の力作「ニッケルの文鎮」に至るまで、いずれも探偵小説の正道をふんだものであるから、その方面に興味をもつ読者には十分の満足を与えることであろう。短い紙面に複雑な内容を盛って、すらすらとさばいてゆく手際に至っては、探偵小説界に、小酒井、江戸川両耆宿(きしゅく)をはじめ新人少なからずといえども、氏の右に出ずるものはまずなかろうと思う。けだし氏の頭のよさのしからしむるところであろう。
 頃日(けいじつ)、作者甲賀氏、小生をとらえて、著作集を出すから何か序文を書けという。到底その任にあらざることは知りながら、ことわることのいたって下手な小生のこととて、ついうかうかとひき受けて、この駄文を草し、可惜(おしむべくは)錦上枯木を添ふるの不風流をあえてした。「枯木も山の賑い」とならば幸甚である。
(甲賀三郎『琥珀のパイプ』春陽堂、一九二六年六月、所収)

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>>88488590
>bad mouthing your helper
disgusting.
Not everyone is going to help you and people will laugh at your expense. わ is pretty fucking giggle worthy.

However insulting the only two people that helped you is silly.
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>>88488763
laugh at me in the form of "please sudoku"
nah
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>>88488998
泣き虫
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>>88488998
薄皮
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>>88488998
もっと泣くお願い。
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>まんこ
ヴァギナ
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I've tried a couple of apps for android for practicing the kana, and so far JA Sensei seems the most useful.

Has anyone used something better before I get the paid version for the other features?
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>>88490016
Does realkana or hiraganaquiz.com not work on your phone? You probably don't need to spend money to learn the kana.
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>>88490016
>paying for things
>paying for KANA
It's like you want to waste money.
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>>88490016
>romaji → kana
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>>88490107
>implying it makes a difference
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>>88489896
尻取か
肛門
セット
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>>88490155
>implying it doesn't
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>>88489965
That's not how you play.
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>>88490208
膣?
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>>88490085
Sorry if I wasn't clear. Both kana are included, as well as one category of vocabulary, kanji, verbs and grammar. The paid version unlocks the others.
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>>88489896
ココナツ
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>>88490429
You should look into Anki if you haven't already. It's pretty hard to beat once you learn how to use it.
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>>88490312
尻取のルールを読んで下さい
それに、
>>88490174
もう俺は勝ったんだよ
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>>88490460
I have it installed on my PC but I don't have any decks. I'm guessing it's just for windows.
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>>88490554
You can get it on mac as well and on phone
It's kinda expensive on phone but worth it if you use it a lot
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>>88490554
It's for linux, windows, android, etc.

It can be a bit daunting to start using but it really is a godsend.
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I haven't reviewed nor learned any new kanji in the last 5 or so days.

Still at 1400 with Heisig.

Loathe me.
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>>88484651 (OP)
new to this, what's the dot mean in the Hiragana? is it just a pause?
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>>88490604
I believe it's free on every platform, including Android, except iOS.
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>>88490636
How long have you been studying for?
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>>88490657
This is covered in the guide.
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>>88490614
>>88490604
Are there links in the sticky somewhere to get decks?
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>>88490604
you can just use a web browser if you don't want to pay for it.
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>>88490657
It means that ひもとく is written as 繙く if you use the kanji. In other words, the kanji stops at the ・

Read the guides
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>>88490703
Lotsa months.
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>>88490707
https://ankiweb.net/shared/decks/
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>>88490707
Probably, I prefer decks I make myself but >>88490749 is where you would go for them.
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>>88490707
Maybe? Either way you can just go to the website, click "Japanese" under the decks portion, and download what you like

I'd recommend kanji damage and core2k

>>88490714
I really like the iphone version even if it cost money
they have a "drawpad" so you can draw kanji and everything, it's pretty nice
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>>88490740
Well i started 2 months ago and just reached my 1400th. If you hadn't stopped, i wouldn't have caught up with you, faggot.
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>>88490816
Looks like you tried to speed race through it too hard. I saw you just try again except this time lower the number a bit.
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>>88491242
>>88490816
Are these threads always a biggest dick contest
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>>88491324
yes
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>>88491242
>speed race through it too hard
I think that's the hardest thing about learning Japanese. Going at a reasonable pace it's easy to feel like no progress is being made so you go faster then burn out.
>>88491324
I may not be normal, but a while back people used to commonly post about how many new kanji they added daily, I wouldn't have picked up my pace if it wasn't for the dick comparing, even if most people were lying.
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>>88491442
yeah there was a week where i did 100 a day because of this thread

then i wanted to kill myself and now im back down to 20

it was ridiculously helpful but I definitely could not have kept it up
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>>88491242
I'm not the guy who stopped though, i haven't gone a day without reading something and doing my reps.
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>>88491242
>speed racing
That's about 23 cards a day after 2 months.

Assuming he didn't miss his daily reps. This just means it's been a little longer than a month or less than a month but he has like 25 a day.

It's a little more than average but not by much
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>>88491630
two months rather.
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>>88491630
>23 cards
No, it's 46. You're forgetting that he probably set the cards up to show both front->back and back->front.
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>>88491630
>It's a little more than average but not by much
Then how come the highest I've seen in this thread is around 4000? You just learn a lot of kanji real quick and then go learn the rest of the language that that amount of kanji would give you up to that point and then continue at a slow but steady rate?
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>>88491766
didn't think about that.

>>88491802
Most people don't actually post how much they have done. The other thing is 23 is assuming he doesn't have "front>back and back>front" and that he didn't miss a single day.

and honestly how do people even keep track, I don't know how much kanji/vocab. I can tell you I finished my N5, N4, and N3 deck but I can't tell you how many are in each deck.
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>>88491802
no one has the dedication to do it continuously
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>>88492153
I'm doing 40 cards a day for the kanji deck, so 20 kanji. At the start i had more, that's why i got to 1400 in around 2 months.
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>>88490460
Yet Anki costs money too...
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>>88492153
> I can't tell you how many are in each deck
Just look at it.
>>88492174
To me that suggests that you're going to fast because I went at a pretty leisurely pace and I haven't seen anybody far above my level that didn't have a lot of prior experience in the language.
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>>88492344
>using common sense
pfft, what am I a faggot.

I embarrassingly never thought of that.
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>>88492304
It's free on every platform except iOS
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Anyone play slime forest?

I got up to around 600 kanji but installed linux so I lost my progress.
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>>88492452
Too bad it's so boring.
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>>88492304
you can use anki via web-browser on your mobile device.

+ I'm pretty sure it's free for everything but iphones, in which case that's your fault.
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>>88491916
I liked that part of 2:16. It was somewhat hot. Not in a gay way but in a seiyuu sexual audio cd kind of way.
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>>88492503
I think anki is worse.

Maybe. My retention rate has always been shite with anki. I'm thinking of writing down every kanji as it appears to see if that helps.
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>>88492503
It's better than your typical learning game.
>There blocks have numbers on them
>2, 3, 2, 5
>_+_=4
>Put the correct blocks in the blanks!

It's like they aren't even trying to make kids want to learn.
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>>88492595
iktf
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>>88492595
>open up your picture in paint
>click the color copy tool
>click on the yellow part
>click the paint can
>fill up the blue part with yellow
Was that so hard?
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>>88492600
you always should
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Is anyone taking JLPT here? I'm studying for N2 this year
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>>88492672
But if i did something the wrong way i'll never be able to objectively defend myself in DJT and will have to commit sudoku for my shame
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Why do people like to push their agenda even in flash cards? Fucking straightedgefags.
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>>88492703
Use your orange part to type up shit in DJTs. We'll call you a faggot and point out your mistakes in the form of greentexts so you can fix them.
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If I have a deck which has kanji on the front definitions on the back, is there any easy way to make that deck have double the amount of cards by flipping each card so that now there's two copies, one with the kanji on front and english on the back and one with the english on the front and knaji on the back?
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>>88492702
Don't be a bitch, go for N1.
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>>88492845
>english on the front and knaji on the back
Why
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>>88492876
isn't N1 like very hard? I've heard of people who speak fluently and aren't game to try it.
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>>88492876
I dunno if I can make it
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>>88492957
So I can write the kanji down on my own and check it without being spoiled by the card

is this possible?

>>88492988
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>>88492988
Passing N1 doesn't even make you fluent. Tones of people who pass N1 can't actually speak for shit.
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>>88492988
Yes it's very difficult
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>>88492988
It's not easy, but it's not at all fluency.
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>>88493034
No, but it is still difficult for fluent people, because there's so many obscure kanji and shit like that.

I'm studying for n2 with a nip friend who's studying for n1
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>>88492845
>>88493022
So is there any way to do this?
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>>88493291
>so many obscure kanji and shit like that.
You have no idea what you're talking. It doesn't even have half of common use kanji. Japanese children could pass it
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>>88492713
俺の両親がずっと前からタバコを吸っている。俺は朝に起きてから台所を歩く時に俺の顔をシャツの中に埋めなければならなった。埋めなかったら、息ができなくなっちゃうから。学校を通っていた時にも「どうしていつもく煙臭いの?」と他の子供から言われていた。
タバコを吸う人は自分の都合のいいことしか考えない。最低だ。
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>>88493602
He's right. It's meant for people for non-natives. Child might be stretching it but a middle schooler certainly could. If you want something with obscure kanji look at kanken. JLPT isn't shit.
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>>88493602
The estimated number of kanji it has is less than the amount nips are mandated to be able to recall with proper stroke order by the end of high school. That's not even including jinmeiyou or tons of other really common kanji.
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>>88493957
It was because your post was shitty that I saged.
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>>88493957
釣り
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>>88493984
>>88493986
>saying that children can pass N1
>not retarded

counter sage
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>>88493466

>comparing native speakers of any age to foreign speakers

this is bait

this always will be bait

if you are taken in by this you have no idea how the human brain works
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Japanese San, Chan, Sama, Sensei, Kun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2CosRZFxdA
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>>88494039
I legitimately believe that. Everything on there is common besides a few name kanji.
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>>88494039
釣り釣り
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Reminder to report the trolls.
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How far should I get into Tae Kim before I start trying to read a simple VN?

Will the Basic Grammar section be sufficient for me to chip my way through a moege or something else that's equally simple?
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>>88494324
>Using emoticons isn't an obvious troll
Tell me how old you are so I can off myself because I reach your age.
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>>88494353
Whenever you feel ready.
>Will the Basic Grammar section be sufficient for me to chip my way through a moege or something else that's equally simple?
You'll still have a lot of points of confusion but you'll do decently. If you get Tae Kim out of the way real fast then the rest is pretty easy.
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>>88494353
Vocab will be a bigger hurdle than the grammar
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>>88494324
There are people in this thread that think that Jouyou kanji are obscure and that a Japanese person couldn't pass JLPT N1. They're either incredibly ignorant or trolls. As well as people getting mad at others for saging.

I'm not saying it's because of summer, but it's because of summer
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>>88494353
>Tae Kim
Is that the guy who spams lit with viral marketing? Or at least claims he does or something?
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>>88494446
だって夏なんだも~ん
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>>88494446
Of course the average Japanese citizen could pass N1, but saying that children could pass it is just wrong.

Why sage when your post is relevant to the topic of discussion?
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>>88494522
>も~ん
>>88491916
これ見てくれ
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I have a calculus 1 final in 2 days and I know nothign and my mom will get angry.

Just saying.
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>>88494560
Why bump when the thread isn't about to 404?
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>>88494560
>but saying that children could pass it is just wrong.
Are you daft? A child could easily pass it.

You can study ANY language for DECADES and you will ALWAYS be outclassed by a native speaker, even if said speaker is a child.
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>>88494607
Do you understand how sage works? If your post is on topic, you should not sage.
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>>88494560
>Why sage when your post is relevant to the topic of discussion?
To show that we've placed ourselves higher on a social hierarchy than you.
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>>88494642
You mean lower. Using sage is a sign of lower self-worth.
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>>88494638
Anyone who wants to be in this thread is already in this thread or can find it easily through the catalog. There's no need to keep bumping.
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>>88494609
>You can study ANY language for DECADES and you will ALWAYS be outclassed by a native speaker
That's not true. Natives don't know a lot sometimes. Especially when it comes to older stuff.
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>>88494661
Yeah, "Right", that's totally what I'm doing here.
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>>88494685
It sounds like you're confusing "old <insert language here>" with "modern <insert language here>"

Just like a native speaker of english wouldn't understand Old English, just because a foreign knows a lot about Old English, doesn't mean they're better at English than a native speaker. Old <language> != Modern <language>
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>>88494609
I was under the impression that elementary school children only learn around 1000 kanji. Is this wrong?
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>>88494790
>Don't believe your post is worth bumping a thread
>Not a sign of self worth issues
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>>88491916
I like you tofugu but you gotta stop with these videos that's filled with nothing.

There was probably about 24 seconds of information in that video and it didn't explain much other than "it developed over the years, you sound like a faggot, go to my website."
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>>88494638
sage should only NOT be used if you think your post is worthy of bumping the thread, e.g. you have a learning resource or found a game that beginners can play to learn vocab.
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>>88494852
That's the amount mandated by schools for writing from memory, they could easily read more.
JLPT has a very low barrier for passing.
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>>88494907
>they could easily read more
>could

but do they?
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>>88494830
Whatever m8
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>>88494949
分かりません(w)
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Why does rikaisama have "no audio" for a lot of characters? Isn't japanese 100% deterministic in how it sounds, therefore meaning a computer can generate a correct pronunciation every time? i.e. like German?
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>>88494875
>sage should only be used if you think your post is worthy of bumping the thread, e.g. you have a learning resource or found a game that beginners can play to learn vocab.
And unless your sense of self worth is shit, all of your posts are worthy of bumping a thread

Y-you're not under some delusion that 4chan is immune from The Law Of Sturgeon, Are You?
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>>88494573
ナイス・ブログ、名無しくん
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>>88495008
There's minor stress of syllables to be able to differentiate words that are pronounced the same like in 雨 and 飴.

But yes, it would be easier to make a more convincing computer voice in Japanese than in English.
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>>88494861
sage has nothing to do with how full of yourself you are, it's about board organization; general threads are always up, they only need to be bumped in order to avoid having them get pruned, there's no other reason to, not because you think your post is "worth bumping the thread" or whatever stupid shit some retard who copied a Japanese concept and then gets it wrong all the time told you it is for
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>>88495008
Why do you need audio for Japanese?
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>>88495124
>Why do you need audio for Japanese?
Learning(?) I had to boot into an OS that doesn't respect my freedoms to get audio to work with it, and it's worth it
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>>88495071
>All your posts are worthy of bumping a thread.
So if I were to reply only with "nice one m8 XDDDDDDDD" then my post should still bump the thread?
90% of the time when I don't sage it's because I forgot to type it in and I can't figure out how to get appchan x to auto-sage for me.
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>>88495104
see
>>88495071

you're not bumping anything except pure shit threads off the front page anyway
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>>88495177
>90% of the time when I don't sage it's because I forgot to type it in and I can't figure out how to get appchan x to auto-sage for me.

You guys really belong on /jp/, both in mind and spirit
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>>88495177
>auto-sage
Someone make it.
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>>88495227
/jp/ is shit.
Too much autism, shitposting, 2fucks, and just general shit.
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>>88495259
Persistent quick reply keeps sage in the email field anyways.
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This is probably a stupid question, but why are some things considered as harder to read than others?

If you learn the grammar rules then isn't everything after that point just a matter of looking up vocab and piecing together the sentences? I don't really understand why one sentence would be harder than the other, even if it used obscure vocab, since you can just look up any word and then add it to your anki deck.

For example, if you understand Japanese grammar but know very little vocab then what would be the difference between trying to read Muramasa and trying to read Ping Pong Pantsu or Yotsuba? Aren't you going to be looking up every single word either way?
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>>88495318
I just want it for the mad I could get off of it.
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>>88495318
Persistent QR is checked for me, and my sage never stays.
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>>88495339
Well even at the most basic level reading Manga is significantly more easy than a LN because of the pictures as well as it being conversational. There's a lot of literary BS required like "'dicks' he said angrily" that just make it harder to understand the core meaning.
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>>88495339
Maybe words or vocab that don't translate even close to 1:1 to your native language?
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>>88495177
>So if I were to reply only with "nice one m8 XDDD" then my post should still bump the thread.
Trick question, the correct answer is to not post it at all.
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>>88495339
Compare "Onii-chan my hips are moving on my own" to something like pick related.
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>>88495339
Well, "knowing Japanese grammar" is pretty difficult. It's easy to understand sentences like "I have a flower," or even, "The young, brown-haired boy threw the flower through the air at the face of the short dog that he had seen in the grocery store," but then sentences can keep getting more and more convoluted, which can be hard to keep track of if you're having to look up every single word, unless you write it down or something.
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かなによねインティsthレアづんでrsたんdティs?
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>>88495503
あしはあなたをすきだ
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>>88495524

>Handwritten Japanese

Sometimes it's so unrecognizable that it almost looks like Arabic.
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Ah.. really, is rikisama supposed to be missing this many phrases for pronunciation? It's such a useful tool to actually hear how it's pronounced
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>>88495650
Also, how the fuck does this work for multiple pronunciations?
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>pronuncation difference between 買う and 飼う

Can someone explain or vocaroo this please?
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>>88495524

How do people even begin to read this chicken scratch?

It looks like a drunk wrote it.
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>>88495847
If you read enough and have knowledge of proper stroke order it's not as bad you think.
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>>88495794
There's no assigned pitch on 買う so it goes steadily up. 飼う has a set pitch on the first syllable and goes steadily down.
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>>88495885
That's still pretty bad though. Luckily nobody actually writes like that anymore.
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>>88495645
>>88495847
It's because that picture is clearly written in 草書.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursive_script_%28East_Asia%29
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>>88495885

>and have knowledge of proper stroke order

Isn't this becoming less and less common even in Japan? Now that everything is getting phased out by computers and fonts become increasingly more familiar than handwritten Japanese. I can't imagine that most working class Japanese people still remember stroke order that well when they probably barely ever write outside of some kind of keyboard.
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Would you recommend watching this guy? I mean his shit is hilarious
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Could someone break down what 「あんまりのり出すと危ないぞ─」means from the first Yotsuba chapter?
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>>88496189
his videos are shit and he isn't funny
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>>88496151
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_amnesia

Yep, it is a problem. In China they're making people take calligraphy classes.
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>>88496189
I wouldn't recommend anything after his kana and his handwriting is shit.

also his humor is fuck shit.
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>>88496151
Having a lapse in memory is becoming more common but they still can write 95% of things 95% of the time. It's never going to go away.
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>>88496007

I like how cursive is a pain in the ass in every language.

Whoever that shorthand was a good idea is a very cruel person.
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>>88496204
leaning out the window is dangerous

あんまり is too much in this case
乗り出すis lean out (the car window i assume from memory)
危ない dangerous
ぞ─ is just a sentence ending
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>>88496463
(I think)

disclaimer my nip is shit
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>>88496295
Nice, so I only have to be 90.25% proficient.
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>>88496189
I just finished his hiragana. I might watch his katakana, and then stop.
>>88496224
>>88496254
What would you guys recommend then?
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>>88496189
Character: 8/10
He's better than most online teachers. He really knows how to motivate you. His cursing is something you grow attached to, but sometimes you feel like he does it a bit too much. You also feel like he's right there with you sometimes, which is good. Excellent motivation.

Teaching: 9/10
I haven't watched any of his kanji, but from his kana and what he DID do with vocab, he is very good. I also caught one possible mistake, and it was "city council" or something. I forget exactly what he wrote it as. It may have not even been a mistake. It was something like しゃくしょまえ, and if I got that right after a year of not studying any of his vocab, then that proves how good he actually is at teaching. His mnemonics helped a lot, even his bullshit ones. His slow-mo writing was helpful. His examples were glorious.

That fucking handwriting: 6/10
It's honestly better than average, but it was still lacking. His stroke order is fucked up. I honestly believe that stroke order doesn't really matter, but he is actually writing his kana in ways that are clearly harder than they need to be. Overall though, pretty good. He at least puts a computer font up there with his handwriting, so he knows he is shit.

Preparedness: 4/10
This fucker's markers keep running out of juice. His hat keeps getting in his eyes. He runs out of beer every now and again. His camera's angling fucks up and he has to fix it once or twice.

Enjoyment: 9/10
He knows how to have fun. I love his counting video, it really helped me.

Please like my reviews on MAL guys.
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>>88496700
>しゃくしょまえ
しやくしょまえ
Pretty close though for an entire year.
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>>88496700
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9_TCfzPlLI
this one? Yeah I love that one
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>>88496691
You don't need to watch youtube videos.
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Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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what's the difference between 行く as いく and ゆく? I don't really understand it
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>>88497328
>行く as いく
Well 行く usually means go and いく/イク is used to mean cum
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Are there any "Japanese-only" fonts in that they don't have the latin alphabet?

My reason being that I use the terminal urxvt (which allows you to specify preferred and fallback fonts) with the font GNU Unifont, but I don't like the way it displays some kanji (Hangul versions). However, I do like the way it displays the latin alphabet.
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>>88497320
覆水盆に帰らず
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>>88497451
>hangul versions
>kanji
What
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>>88497448
no I mean, why is it sometimes pronounced with an "i" and why sometimes with a "yu"?
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>金色の髪はからは不思議な芳香が匂い立つ。
>はからは
Typo?
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>>88496463
thank you very much
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Any way to get rikaisama to do the audio for the alternate pronunciation?
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>>88497857
no prob

did you download the reading pack? You really should; it's very helpful and free. (I wouldn't rec the second though because you have to pay for it and that's not worth it)
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>>88497772
I don't know what its meaning would be if it wasnt but I'm not qualified to say
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>>88497943
for reading along to Yotsuba? そそんな事があ?
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>>88497737
After looking at some J->J dictionaries I can't really discern much. I wouldn't worry about it, but you may be able to find some answers if you look around hard enough on Japanese Google.
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How is ふ pronounced?

I thought it was fu as in Fu Manchu but every pronunciation that I've heard sounds more like "who"
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>>88498097
the ho in who.
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>>88498097
it's both fu and hu, just kind of release air out through semi closed lips. a very soft bu.
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>>88498097
It's a mix between 'hu' and 'fu'. There isn't really an equivalent in English.
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Do you also need to learn the double and extended katakana characters?
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>>88498312
Yes. The very first chapter in Genki uses one.
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>>88498097

Here's a trick that I use. Imagine that you're saying fug and then you're suddenly punched in the genitals.

The resulting noise that comes out of your mouth before falling to the ground would sound like, "fffHhuu"
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>>88498312
絶対だ。
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>>88498075
Yes, check the pastebin

>>88498090
Ok, thanks, I'll just treat them the same if I ever see it then
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>>88497772
yes it's a typo
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>>88498312
>double and extended katakana characters
What?
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>>88498600
He means stuff like ウェ, as in スウェーデン
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>>88498600
http://www.realkana.com/katakana/double/
http://www.realkana.com/katakana/extended/
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>>88497737
ゆく is old. いく is modern. old japanese sounds cool and adds more depth of meaning/emphasize to what is being said when it's used. you see it a lot in songs and other stuff like that (prose, poems, etc)
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>>88498701
I see, thanks!
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>My 400+ and counting vocab reps that used to take me 4-5 hours a day of redoing it over and over until I finally remembered the correct answer again are now only taking me 30 minutes.

This is the first time that I've ever succeeded in something before.

I'm so happy that I feel like I can fly.
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>>88498849
>Trying to front load 400+ vocab all at once.
Jesus Christ how horrifying. It would have probably taken you less time to do 10 at a time.
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>>88498849
If you can maintain that then it's fine. It's better to go slower and be consistent then to go fast and burn out.
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>>88498849
Congratulations anon, and keep up the good work.
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>>88498849
Anki is a really really powerful tool, imo.
However, don't be afraid to calm down a bit and try to get the most from every source you can. Inmersing yourself in the language, that might be your best strategy.
Good luck anon, I'm trying my best to learn too and I wish you the best of luck.
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Is it difficult to pick up a new dialect?

I don't want to sound like some fancy Tokyo pussy boi. Osaka-ben is the only acceptable dialect for a man to speak in my opinion and I'll want to switch to that as soon as possible.
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>>88498849
Holy shit i would sudoku if I did that much at a time

You must have a will of iron
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Is it me, or are the pics in the Core 2k deck(s) really arbitrary? As in, they don't relate to the given word a lot. Just about the only con I have for it so far. Any other pros and cons on that series of decks?
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>>88499070
You'll always sound like a 外人, you can probably do an imitation about as well as you can impersonate an Australian accent, or American accent if you're Australian.
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>>88499070
>Osaka-ben is the only acceptable dialect for a man to speak
Most of Western Japan sounds like that.
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>>88499070
Have fun sounding like a country boy. A pal of mine went to Osaka for a semester and, while they do actually treat each other as brothers and sisters, he couldn't get over the fact that they added shit to the ends of words for no reason.
Don't speak Osakan, you'll sound like a poser who's trying to pose off something stupid. Nobody tries to sound like a country bumpkin on purpose.
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>>88499070

>Why is that white piggu trying to sound like a yakuza?
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Fucking shit why the fuck are so god damn many phrases without audio
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>>88499070
iktf osakaben is ridiculously hot sounding
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>>88499268
Wait, do Japanese not consider themselves white?

No wonder they have such shitty self-esteem.

Well, at least they're not niggers.
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>>88497680
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanja
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>>88499341
>iktf
Stop that. Nobody knows what your text lingo means here.
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I'm going through Grammar now but i don't understand



This has like, 10 different meanings, with 10 different pronunciations

Seriously?
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>>88499400
日本語にようこうそ!
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>>88499370
I know what you're talking about but isn't hangul the other thing?
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イエローモンキー ホワイトピッグ ブラックモンスター
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>>88499376
It's "I know that feel"
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>>88499482
I meant 「ようこそ!」
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>>88499400
You won't use all 10 in normal speech.
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>>88499539
How can Tae Kim just give the kanji without the Reading though?
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>>88499512
I thought it meant "I know, [what] the fuck?!"
Just stop. If you can't type it all out, don't type it at all.
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>>88499376

I killed the ferret.
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>>88499539
>>88499577
Pic didn't upload. Here are the one's you'll use.
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>>88499485
Yes. I wasn't aware of that; thought it was just another name for the Korean language. Thanks for pointing it out.
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>>88499592
I didn't consciously register it, my brain automatically filters out gibberish apparently.
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>>88499510
黄猿 白豚 黒獣
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>>88499592
That's like complaining about mfw and inb4.
inb4 is pretty faggy though.
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What is the correct pronunciation of 瞬く?
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>>88499679
Well those are actually used, so people will know what you're talking about if you use them.
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>>88499679
inb4 is /b/-tier.
I can deal with mfw.
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>>88499661
Blacks are the ones that look like monkeys though. South East Asians do to an extent, but South East Asians should be respectively separated from the rest of Asia.
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>>88499785
It's all relative. Relative to dogs all humans look like monkeys.
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>>88499510
猿は丸い目を持っているからアジア人じゃない。
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Japanese culture has shown they idolize the Aryan Race anyway, so this is all pretty much just damage control.
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It's been a year and a half. I don't browse these threads anymore, but how are your studies coming along? Anyone nearing fluency?
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>>88499901
Japan is white so it doesn't count.
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whiteと言うよりはpinkだよな
特に太ってる人は
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>>88499901
But if they idolize the Aryan, why would they want waito pigu go homu?
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>>88499945
>Anyone nearing fluency?
I imagine if I could grow the balls needed to talk to a native I could probably get pretty good real fast. I'm doing fine on everything besides production.
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>てぃ
How do I pronounce that? How do I even type it with IME?
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>>88500022
You can make smaller versions of a character by typing x infront of it.
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>>88500022
Ti because ち isn't ti
thi is how you type it.
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>>88500055
ありがとう
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>>88500063
アリガトウ
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>>88499785

ebony and ivory~
live together in perfect harmony~
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>>88500022
Speaking of this is there a key trick to switching from hiragana to katakana to characters like this or do I have to press the button every time?
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>>88500125
黒いものが氏ねばいい
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>>88500125
we must look to the cookie
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>>88500162
>氏ね

hipster as fuck
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>>88500179
alt+caps
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>>88500179
Either ctrl + caps to switch to kana and alt + caps to switch to katakana or shift to type katakana or f7 to convert hiragana to katakan.
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>>88499713
Bump.
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>>88500125

I don't like that the black monkey has his arm over the white monkey's arm. It shows that he thinks he has the position of dominance.
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>>88500212
It's net slang.
You wouldn't understand.
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てぃthi うぉwho ちぇche しぇshe でぃdhi でぇdhe
ふぁふぃふぇふぉfa fi fe fo ふゅfyu
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Is there an equivalent to /pol/ on 2ch/2chan?

That would be all the motivation i would ever need.
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>>88500291
マタタク
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>>88500295
;_;
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>>88500328
yes but if you have gaijin IP it won't even appear as an option on your screen
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ち is "Chi" in hepburn style.
Ti/ち is the kunrenshiki style.

ところで、「Chi」の発音って「ちー」だよな。
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What does Japan's /pol/ think of America?

Do they still like us for operation tomodachi or have they forgotten about it?
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>>88500392
Good thing I have a few Japanese IPs at my disposal
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george ommlanu
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>>88500492
Probably, but they also still hate us for bombing them and forcing them to trade with us.
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>>88500492
They don't forget.
They don't forgive.
About the nukes.
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>>88500265
>>88500262
thanks
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>>88500463
>ところで、「Chi」の発音って「ちー」だよな。
英語では?そうだろうが、ネイティブの私でもよくわからない。
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>>88499945
>>88499945
I am fluent by some definitions of fluent. If fluent means "of native or near-native level ability and ability to participate in discussion on specialized topics of many kinds" then I'd say I've still got a way to go. But I'm good enough right now that I can read most anything I want, watch anime raw, enjoy the lyrics of the music i listen to and sing along, and I recently got back from spending three months in Japan living with Japanese people and hanging out and having fun all in Japanese. As far as speaking goes, my active vocabulary is much smaller than my passive (naturally. be sure to note that this is also actually very much the case in your native language too), but I was generally able to talk about a topic without needing to pause and think about what to say much if at all by the time I left (in reality I didn't get too much speaking practice until the last month because I was hanging out with foreigners that only spoke Engish for the first two months. not intentionally mind you, just due to circumstances it just kind of... happened. was disappointing. what ever let that happen again)

started studying using nama-sensei and a shitty book of almost no value (japanese for dummies I think?) about 2 and half or 3 years ago, and eventually learned about actually good methods and anki through AJATT.
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>>88500614
>聖戦
>Jihad
People usually think "crusade," not "Jihad"
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>>88500492
I think Americans care more about Pearl Harbour than they do about the nukes.
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>>88500730
I think holy war and apply it to Jihad were applicable.
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>>88500492

I wonder how many illegitimate children were conceived during Operation Tomodachi. When those Japanese women saw all of those muscular white marines flying in on their helicopters and saving them then they must have been pretty moist and eager to take the D.
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>>88500926
>Muscular marines
>that picture
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>>88500717
I think with media, understanding what's being said in a literal sense is one thing, but to truly enjoy it you should also be able to pick up on the subtleties. If you reach that level, you're well on your way.

Also, do take some caveats with Nama-sensei. I'm sure you're already aware.
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I hate 事.
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>>88501000
Okay, I'll bite. Why do you hate 事?
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>>88500997
>implying he couldnt kick your ass
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>>88501098
I think I can take him.
I can tell by his bulge
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>>88501049
It's ugly and I hate its meanings.
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>>88500926

That guy looks like a pussy. We should have pulled out all of the big and masculine bearded soldiers that we've got over in Afghanistan and sent them over to help Japan.

Seeing these blue eyes and that big beard would be an example of masculinity that those Japanese girls would have never seen before. They would probably just start masturbating right then and there.
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>>88498419
I laughed really fucking hard, that is the most wonderful way I heard to say it.
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>>88501262

Those eyes are staring into my soul
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I kinda want to learn Japanese just because of how much media I already consume where the original language is Japanese, but I also would like to try and use foreign language knowledge to get a job. What the American media and what job recruiters say is that the only languages that are in demand are Chinese and Spanish. Is it true? Also, to what degree is Japanese mutually intelligible with Chinese? From what I understand its only some of the Kanji, and only written Japanese, not spoken.

Sorry for the bolgish post.
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>>88501771
You can get a job as a translator in Japanese, it just doesn't pay very well and you have to translate boring things.
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これらのスレには初心者が多すぎる。
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>>88501833
I don't care at all. I don't exactly see my self getting a better job prospects as a NEET. That being said, its going to be a long time before I get good enough at any language to get a job from it.
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>>88501771

You'll never stick with learning a language if your only motivation is to get a job with it. It's just a waste of time when you consider that the time it would take to learn these languages is longer than it would take to just get any job and make the same amount of money.

Translating is a nice side opportunity once you've already learned a language that you're passionate about, but learning a language where the only appeal is the potential job opportunities isn't any where near enough motivation to stick with it.
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That is unbelievable!
直訳:それは信じられない!
意訳:信じられない・・・!
実際:バカな、あり得ない!
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>>88501771
despite similarities you will NOT have any semblance of knowledge in Chinese by learning Japanese.

I don't know about Spanish but Chinese is in high demand. What >>88501833 said but if you go to college you can get a very nice job translating for the Japanese government.

However it won't help you escape "translating boring things." and if you don't enjoy translating your job opportunities is probably better spent elsewhere.

You can take the even more obscure route that another anon did and go to college to get a bachelor's in Chinese painting and calligraphy and work as a historian in Japan.
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Are there any micro-translator opportunities for Japanese?

I used to do this job on the internet where I would transcribe shit, usually just the business meetings of Indians and shit like that, but I would get paid something like 50 cents per minute of audio. There was no job interview or anything since microworking is just based around millions of people doing little pieces of a larger project in exchange for pennies.

Is there anything like that for Japanese? Maybe translating text messages for a dollar or something like that.
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>>88501970
もともと初心者が作った初心者向けのスレなんだからしかたないだろ。嫌なら出てけ。
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>being to read raw manga
>realize most of the scanlators translations are pretty much reworded/rephrased

I can't take scanlations seriously anymore ;_;
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>>88502413
I saw some translation offer on Fakku a while ago where some place was paying $20 per doujin translated.
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>>88502435
馬鹿な問が何度も繰り返される。もういやだけど、しかたない。
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>>88502463
No way. You don't even have to be good at Japanese to translate most porn.
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>>88502413
http://www.translatorscafe.com/cafe/default.asp
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>>88502526
まあそれはそうだけど。毎回聞いている者が違うって心底信じたいんだよね。でなけりゃ……
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>>88502463
fuck, how long ago.

I'd do that in a heart beat, it's like the same 100 words with a lot of moaning and descriptive dick words.
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>>88502788
>毎回聞いている者が違うって心底信じたいんだよね。でなけりゃ……
その気持ちわかる
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>>88502526
それは新しい人がこのスレッドに来ている証拠では?僕は良いことだと思う。
初歩の勉強や基礎固めは大事だ。
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Can anyone tell me what kanji this is?

>気に入ったなら、今日は ○○○ まってく?
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>>88502862
その気持ちを分かる。
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>>88503101
泊まる
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>>88503101
泊?
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>>88503101
Looks like "泊まってく" if you ask me
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>>88502966
そうだけど…それにしてやっぱり煩わしくないと言えない。
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>>88503121
「がわかる」だろう
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>>88502862
ってかそういうお前はどの程度の腕だ? 別に攻めてるわけじゃないぜ。ただ聞きたいだけだ。俺、日本語の能力をつけた他人とあんまり交流する機会がなくてさ、好奇心が出てしまう。
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>>88503336
どっちでもいいと思うぜ? まあ確かに文法的には間違ってるのかもしれないけれど、口語なら普通に言えるんだ。
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>>88503211
>>88503231
>>88503238
Thanks
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>>88503268
>ってかそういうお前はどの程度の腕
俺は話が下手糞なんだけど、読書や他のことが悪くないと言えると思うが、そのことにもしくじる時もある。

もっと書くところが、やめちゃったからごめん。
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>>88503967
>書くところが
Sorry I messed this up. I can't remember how to say this. I'm probably just a bit too tired today.
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Is it possible to download all of the Japanese study material that I will need?

I'm planning to move into my car and become a forest otaku that lives in the forest and shits in the woods, but I don't want to stop studying Japanese. It'll be easy to maintain a charge on my laptop but I'm less confident about what signal strength will be like out there.
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>>88504513
>I'm planning to move into my car and become a forest otaku
What's the benefit of that?
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>>88504513
な、なぜ?
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>>88504562
no procrastination
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>>88503967
>もっと書くところが、やめちゃったからごめん。
いえいえ、気にしないでよ、そんなこと。疲れてるでしょ? 俺も集中してないとなーんにも書けやしないし、疲れてて長文が書けなくなっちゃってもしょうがないんだ。

さあゆっくり寝て、明日目が覚めたらまた勉強に励め。
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>>88504513
Download an offline dictionary, tae kim in PDF format and plenty to read/listen to.

Also that's probably a bad idea, gonna get raped in your sleep, and not by hot lolis
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>>88504562

It's free so I won't have to get a job.

I got enough money from life insurance that I can afford to maintain my supplies for what I estimate to be another 50 years, longer if I can use my new rifle that I bought to hunt for animals instead of needing to buy food.

I don't have enough money to afford renting a place though, so living in the woods in my car and being a car dwelling forest otaku and forest hunter is the best option.
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>>88504683
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
頑張って、アノン君!
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>>88504683
living the dream
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>>88504683
メシウマ
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>>88504683
森オタクwww
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Ayaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!
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>>88504683
Enjoy your infections from diseased animals and diarrhea from unripe fruit.
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>>88504683

You should probably download a few of the survival manuals that /k/ or /out/ recommends in addition to all that Japanese stuff. Probably gonna need it.
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>>88504845
ペニスを呉れて遣る
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>>88504683
Make sure you listen to denpa too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IwgXooPskw
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>>88504683
>>88504847
>going outside
He'll deserve whatever he gets.
I hope your life doesn't end up being too shitty anon
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>>88504683
Why not live in an apartment and hunt food instead?
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>>88504845
へ、変なことはするなって言ったのに、やっぱり変なことをしちゃった! こ、このバカ兄さん!
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>>88504929
「ペニスをくれてやるんだ」の間違いじゃないのか、それ。
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>>88504972
Why not get a shitty job and just deal with it? If you're a NEET, having to work seems better than trying to live out of your car. Having to either shit in the woods or in public bathrooms for the rest of your life, etc.
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>>88504972
あいつはもういかれてるんだって。説得するのを諦めろ。
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>>88505053
辞書引いたら「呉れて遣る」でも良いみたいだな
昔の小説なら使われているかもしれない
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Why not we all live in a forest and build a cute otaku village? That'll be so fun!
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>>88505253
Let's buy a /DJT/ mansion.
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>>88505216
>>88505216
いや、だからそういうのじゃなくて、「のだ」をつけるべきだったって言いたいんだ。
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>>88505321
You can actually buy old giant houses in the midwest for really fuckin' cheap. Doubt they have high speed internet though.
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>>88504980
誤解するなよ。俺がセクハラするのは、お前だけだぜ?
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>>88505253
So, NEET animal crossing?
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>You will never live in the /djt/ mansion
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>>88505398
This should be a thing.
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>>88505490
That would be hell
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>>88505579
>it's futaba not 2chan you faggots

every time.
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>>88505579
>brainbased learning
I laughed
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>>88504683

He attempts to hunt in silence. His terrified expression indicates that he has stumbled upon a herd of deer. This is the forest otaku of the North American forest. The last man on Earth to use what some believe is the most useless hunting technique in the world. He clumsily attempts to move towards the animals. The otaku is not moving fast.

The animals have taken fright. This is the signal for the next stage of the hunt to begin; the chase. The otaku begins to frantically waddle towards his prey, he must be relentless. This is now a test of endurance, but who will collapse first? Waddling on two feet is more efficient over long distances than waddling on four. The otaku sweats from glands all over his body and attempts to cool himself.

Minutes pass and the deer have disappeared. The chase has lasted fifteen minutes and the otaku is at the end of his strength. And then the otaku collapses from sheer exhaustion, it is close to death.
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京アニのホモ水泳への意気込み
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>>88505490
>OP hangs himself in the living room
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>>88505839
>>88505490
If it's anything like this thread we'd have hordes of retards invading the house and shiting everywhere
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>>88505902
We'll put a fence up next summer and fill the year with forest otaku.
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>>88505938
yard*
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>>88505806

I wonder what David Attenborough would say if he made a documentary about observing the average NEET in its natural habitat.
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>>88505326
「のだ」はつけてもつけなくても意味は通じる
「殺してやる殺してやる殺してやる殺してやる・・・」とか「次は絶対勝ってやる」
などどちらかというと独り言に近いニュアンス。
「のだ」をつけると誰かに予定や願望を主張している感じが強い
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>>88504513

Download this torrent, a lot of good stuff.

http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/6672792/Japanese_Language_Learning_Pack
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>>88507640
Visited a bookshop yesterday and saw a lot of stuff related to kanji remembrance, phrasebook, history etc

With this link though, do I have a need to buy physical books anymore?
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>>88508002
Its all about what kind of media you prefer. If you prefer to read off paper, then get the books, if you like reading off your computer you should get the torrent.
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lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uw9veOrGMs
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>>88508651
mighty crazy
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>>88508651
Jesus, what's with nips and tearing up manga.
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>>88509509
>Jesus, what's with nips and tearing up マンコ.
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>>88508651
What is the context here?
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>>88509601
korean nationalist
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>>88509686
馬鹿チョンwww
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/14/world/koreans-slice-their-fingers-in-anti-japan-rite.html
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チョンスレッド?w
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Let's drop it.
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見当たんねェし
This sentence is positive right?
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Can you use verb stems in the same way that you can te form to mean "and"? For example:

フライパンに卵を割って落とし、卵黄をくずさずに焼いたもの。

If not, what does it mean?
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>>88509957
Nope.
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>>88510013
2 見当違いなこと、間の抜けたことをする人をののしっていう語。とんま。まぬけ。すこたん。「この―め」「―野郎」

this is it?
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>>88510045
I don't know what you're talking about.
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>見当たんねェし
見当たらない/見当たらないし

私のメガネが見当たらない。
うまい言葉が見当たらない。
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>>88510164
Thank you based anon.
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>>88510322
cool memes #epic
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>>88509982
Bump.
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>>88510445
#rekt
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How does DJT feel about Tofugu?

TextFugu?
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>>88511009
If it's only this easy
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So how many kanji have we learned so far in these threads?
The first 400 had 8 a thread I believe, so 3,200, and ever since (264 threads) it's been 6/thread, so 1,584, that give an overall 4,784 kanji, is that about right?
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>>88511067
It's as easy as that guide says it is, but it's still at least 6 months of work if you're a NEET, and more if you're not, before you can become fluent.
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>>88511202
Why can't I learn this instantly? Where are the surgeon computers that can plant weeaboo brain cells in my head?

I-im sorry /a/, i'm too weak willed
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>>88511270
Faggot.
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>>88511270
c-cool m-memes b-b-b-bro
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>>88509982
卵を割って落とし、卵黄を = 卵を割って落として、卵黄を
Your sentence is better.
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>>88511446
I got it from the dictionary, I was just wondering if it just means "and then".
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小学生(6-12 year old) 1,000 kanji
+中学生(13-15) 600 kanji
+高校生(16-18) 400 kanji
=2,000 kanji
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>>88511099
>ever since (264 threads)
CDLXIV is 464, not 664
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>>88508651
So let me get this straight, he bought the manga with his own money and destroyed it? Doesn't he realize he just lost his money?
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>>88511202
>6 months of work if you're a NEET
Damn, didn't know that I was fluent a year ago. I just wish you had told me sooner. Sarcasm aside, freetime with which you can potentially study =/= time spent studying.
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So I've beein learning only Kanji for probably 2 months now started on 10 new a day and have been on 15 new a day since been going great for the most part until maybe 2 days ago when it feels like I've forgotten most of which I've learnt...

So I'm planning to re-cap all the cards I've learnt so far to catch up. My question is, is there a way to set something like that you get no new cards on the weekends and an increased recap amount? or is that not possible and only achievable through you manually tweaking settings.

>>88511009

>Don't learn Kanji individually, that's retarded

Hardly retarded at all learning vocab before you know all the kanji is fucking stupid though becuase the kanji just look like random piles of shit if you don't know radicals. I personally find it much easier to get well into Kanji then make a start on vocab when your familiar with most Kanji as you'll only be learning another pronunciation not a whole fucking symbol too.
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I asked this on the last minutes of the last DJT so I retry :

Does anyone know a website where you can download a lot of raw light novel ? I can only find translated version on bakatsuki.

If no one knows, do you think sending an e-mail to Bakatsuki asking for raw could be successfull ?
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>>88513343
>look like random piles of shit if you don't know radicals
That didn't stop you from learning Kana in a day or two. That's not going to stop you from learning the radicals. If what you're saying were actually true learning either would technically be impossible. What's more there is really only a handful of words where knowing the radicals is actually beneficial to not fucking it up. Oh, and you'll also pick up some useful radicals as words in themselves 聞く 耳 門 being an example off the top of my head.
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>>88513858
Links are in the resources pastebin I believe, but when I'm looking for manga/ln I try Nyaa, Jcafe, and google.
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>>88513867

I personally found trying to learn kanji from vocab just long winded, not to say that some people won't find it easy but for me it didn't work there was no structure to what you were learning as with Kanji damage you just learn more and build up. With vocab everything was so drastically different it just went in one ear and out the other.
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>>88513981
You probably didn't give it a fair shot. After you learned about 50 kanji through vocab you will already know every single radical, as opposed to RTK or KD which requires to to learn all 2000 which is a pretty big roadblock before you can actually start learning something useful.
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>>88514317

Guess I'll give it another got then I'm right now at around 650 Kanji when I first attempted vocab I was at 100.
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>>88513981
That's well, and good, and frankly more or less how I feel about learning through vocab. I wouldn't do it straight and pure as that guide suggests, as that's not exactly what I did. It seems to me that there is a sweet spot in Kanji where one can pick up vocab with unknown Kanji with considerably less trouble. I think it's the brain getting used to learning Kanji, and certainly being more familiar with both basic Kanji, and their radicals. Having said that I'll admit to sharing your immediate difficulty with vocab, and also share that my 600 Kanji wait before starting vocab in earnest was a several hundred Kanji too much.

>>88514317
>>88514407
It behooves you to know the radicals if you're learning vocab without them and finding it too difficult. If someone can't hack it after knowing the radicals then Kanji first is certainly for them.
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Going to ask a dumbass question here.

I learn characters super slowly. It took me way too long to learn kana. Words, less slowly, if used in practice, I think.
I've been picking up some basic vocab but kanji is not sticking as well. I can't learn words at the same pace that I can learn kanji.

In the guide (I read it, wow) it says I should try learning them at the same time. What am I fucking up?
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>>88514572
>What am I fucking up?
Analyze why you're fucking up, and try addressing it. The guide is just that a guide, and if it isn't working try something you think might work.
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>>88514940
Well, the kana took me ridiculously long to learn. I really only do well with practical examples, it doesn't stick otherwise.
I think learning more vocab and actually being able to form sentences would help me to remember the radicals and kanji later on, but I really don't know.
As it is now, I will probably just keep learning vocab until I'm forced to confront kanji, which I believe may be awful.
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http://happylilac.net/hiragana-h.html
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>>88515442
Cool, do that then.
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>>88499947
Japanese aren't white though.
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Is there really any point on learning vocab and kanji? I mean japanese has so many loan words you can speak it using english words only!
チスのワイでスピークすれば、ジャパニースはケーキのピースだよ。
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>>88509509
>>88508651
It's clearly written in gook.
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>>88517027
Are you trying to sound like an Indian, or are you genuinely confused about the pronunciation of some of those words? The first two are so bad that it's actually hard to figure out what you're trying to say. Pity, your general idea was okay.

You should be able to figure out the really bad ones on your own, so I'll only point out the other one. For the purposes of katakanisation at least, the s in the -ese suffix is voiced, and is transcribed as ズ. Try it that way and you'll see it's even on edict.
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>>88513858
Is it so hard to just Google it?
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>>88517027
mitemite watashi mo kanpeki na eigo dekiru
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>>88509765
>The ritualistic display reflected their rage over the planned visit by Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi of Japan to a shrine honoring Japan's war dead.
>Many people, both Koreans and Japanese, have been outraged by the shrine visit, seeing it as a sign of Japan's insensitivity and lack of repentance for it past aggression in northeast Asia.
What?
>One of the protesters, wielding a microphone, led the group in denunciations of Mr. Koizumi's plan to go to the shrine as well as his refusal to order revisions of middle-school textbooks that Korea has officially criticized for glossing over Japanese colonialism and militarism in northeast Asia.
>The ministry said the Korean government ''deeply regrets'' the visit to the shrine, which it called ''a symbol of past Japanese militarism.''
This is pathetic.
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Why can't the Japanese give good names to their literature? Instead, we get a paragraph-long description just to fuck with us.
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>>88517769
If you're not reading eroge then the titles are always pretty terse.
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>>88497451
>Are there any "Japanese-only" fonts in that they don't have the latin alphabet?

Anyone?
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>>88517803
Name three LNs that have a terse title.

Oh wait, you can't.
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>>88517837
I don't even understand what that means.
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>>88517837
I know what you're doing and it's fucking stupid. Stop that.
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>>88517860
銀河英雄伝説、キノの旅、涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱
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>>88517860
キノの旅
ハイスクールDxD
デート・ア・ライブ
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>>88517860
>LN
>literature

>>88517837
Most Japanese fonts just use Arial or something for alphanumerics
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>>88517965
> Literature (from Latin litterae (plural); letter) is the art of written work.
> LNs are written, hence literature.
Stop being a 馬鹿 anon.
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>>88517997
When people say 'literature' it's unlikely they mean stuff written for middle-schoolers. If you want to talk about LNs, just say LN.
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>>88517997
>LNs
>art

Also all of you people who are starting out reading with a LN as your first lengthy Japanese book, you should try reading some actual modern Japanese literature like 村上春樹 or 舞城王太郎; despite what you might think, normalfag books are often easier because the authors aren't autists who use difficult kanji for the sake of it
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>>88518054
I will continue to say horse when I mean horse and mammal when I mean mammal, and anyone who insists that bipedal mammals shouldn't be called mammals can continue to suck my cock.
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>>88518205
I read LNs because they're easier to acquire in txt format
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Is anyone here at the level yet where they can read Japanese automatically? Like when I see roman letters, I simply can't NOT read them, it happens subconsciously. When I see Japanese, I still have to flip a mental switch first that lets me decipher the characters.
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>>88518205
I'm pretty new and not far enough to actually read anything in japanese. Is it true that LN autors often simply make up readings for kanji/make up new words?
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>>88518551
>Is it true that LN autors often simply make up readings for kanji/make up new words?
yes
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>>88511568
b-but Japanese children could pass N1 n-no problem!
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>>88518639
Japanese people can read a lot more than that though. I don't think children can but I think Middle schoolers could.
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>>88518538
For short things, yes. When I see a large block of text, I have to make a mental effort to start reading it, but once I don't have to think about it much.
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>>88520132

Where do they take the time to make all this kawaii stuff?
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僕は、英語が教科の中で一番苦手だったから教えてださい!
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>>88520614
僕は、日本語がこのスレの中で一番苦手だからよろしくお願いします。
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>僕は、英語が教科の中で一番苦手だったから教えてださい!
okey.とりあえず日本の英語教育はマジで糞ったれだから気にするな。
文法なんて後からで良い。
君が赤ん坊の時にした日本語教育を思い出しな。
TVアニメや絵本を見ただろう?それと同じさ、頭の中を英語にするんだ。
映画や音楽、良く分からないオッサンが英語話してるYoutubeチャンネルを見まくればいいよ。もちろん日本語字幕なしでね!Good luck!
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>>88520132
>>88520927
>文法なんて後からで良い
文法は大切なことだと思う。文法を学ばなければ読むと大変なことになる。最初だけだから学ばない理由がないと思う。英語での文法は日本語の文法より難しいのは確かであるけど、それでも無視すべきことでないと思う。
そうはいっても、L2に没頭するのは文法より大切であると同意する。


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