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>Idol M@ster is finally coming to America

Fuck yea...
>Shiny Festa
>Digital only at $54.99 each
Okay...
>iOS only!

Truly the devil must exist for this is his work.
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What did you expect?
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Wait are the voices in english?

Please say no.
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>>84061588
Shiny Festa isn't voiced. Imagine them dubbing the songs
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>>84061637
Oh god whats the point of releasing it then especially for that much?
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>>84061790
Wait just found a youtube video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVNVE4aWato

At least it is not dubbed but still
>$54.99
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>>84061637
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>>84061486 (OP)
>$54.99
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I' never certain on whether I love or hate Bamco.
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>>84061836
It comes with all the songs for each game which is okay I guess
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>>84061637
>Imagine them dubbing the songs
I want disney to get the rights and do all the songs~
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>$54.99 each
>each

Yeah, I don't like iM@S that much.
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I can't wait to pirate them.
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>>84062018
>Ai like Hamburgers replaced to be about how you should eat healthy foods like celery and carrots
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>Releasing on Mac
>The most casual electronic device on earth
>The people who wouldn't be caught dead within 10km of anything remotely anime
>The people only willing to buy games if they cost $2.99 or less
They want it to fail, don't they?
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>>84062103
with a guest appearance by Michelle Obama!
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A-ARON? Is there an A-ARON here?
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Shiny Festa is complete shit. They'd be ripping you off at five dollars. Why you people want this in English is beyond me, the threads are bad enough. Just learn Japanese.
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>>84062172
Maybe they're just joking. Tomorrow they'll be all like "Oh ho ho you silly gooses. Here's a translated Idolmaster 2 for your PS3 and/or 360." or something right? right?
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>http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-04-22/the-idolm@ster-shiny-festa-games/anime-debut-in-english-on-ios

Bamco truly is the EA of the east. Probably more evil. Remember, this is the company that has nearly $2000 worth of dlc for one game.
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>>84062172
They're looking for excuses not to release this series in the West, so they're going to use this knowing it's just going to flop.
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>iOS

I didn't care about the price.
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>>84062326
Well the ideal is good sales would encourage more idol m@ster games to be released in english. Sadly, we would never get what we really want..
>Sir! Shiny Festa is selling great!
>Perfect! Just send them the rhythm games and only the rhythm games, they would never want the sims!
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Did you know that the devil is only referenced three times in the Hebrew Bible? And one of those times isn't as the snake in the creation story. That connection wasn't made until much later.

Anyway in at least one of those instances (the book of Job) it is implicit to the text that the devil is not actually opposed to God but a member of the celestial court whose purpose is to test the virtuous on God's behalf. Or something.

Also all three of the devil references in the Hebrew Bible are from postexilic writings. Isn't that fascinating?
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>>84062826
Yes, please cuntinue
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>>84062660

Same. Hell if they released iM@S 1 or 2 translated for the PC I'd pay plenty for it. Because if they only released it for a console I'd have to seriously consider buying a console just for it.
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>>84062979
>>84062826
satan detected
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I haven't seen a lose/lose situation like this since Valkyria Chronicles 2. Either it does well and only comes over on iOS or it fails and we never see idol m@ster again.
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>>84062826
The devil of the Hebrew religion as I know it isn't exactly the opponent as it is in Christianity. I believe it was something along the lines of an angel whose task was to test man's faith and virtue
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has any Japanese company released a dialog heavy, non-dubbed game over shores before?
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>>84062826

STOP MAKING ME LEARN THINGS CHEN.
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>>84063132
Muramasa?
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>>84063132
I remember that Yakuza wasn't dubbed
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>>84062826
Jew here.
Satan is in there 13 times.
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>>84063132
Agarest 2.
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I own an iPad, a Macbook Air and an iPhone

I will enjoy playing this
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So, can you like emulate iOS on a PC? Mite bite the bullet and buy one if I can.
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>>84063132
Most get licensed by western companies I think like Agarest
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Just jailbroke my iphone last night. This and Phoenix Wright HD Trilogy will keep me busy for quite a while.
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>>84062979
I can't remember what the other two devil references are.

Oh and the devil does appear in the book of Tobit, but that's apocrypha. To the Jews at least. Roman and Orthodox Catholics include it as part of the Canon of Scripture for some reason.

Anyway once you get to the New Testament the devil is referenced all over the place.
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>>84063250
How do you jailbreak as I have a ipod touch that I dont use that much but might as well do it.
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>>84063223
Did you have to give up both testicles before you could afford all of that?
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>>84063300

http://evasi0njailbreak.org/
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>>84063213
Is that so? Hmmmm maybe what I meant is that he's only referenced in three books then, but his name appears 13 separate times.

By the way, did you know that Jesus' name is referenced more often in the Koran that Muhammed's name is? To Muslims, Jesus is the second greatest of God's prophets, and Muhammed talked about him much more than he talked about himself.
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> It can also be used on iPod touch (5th generation), however when downloading additional data you must use a Wi-Fi connection.

I have a 4th gen iPod touch, am I fucked? Will it not work at all? God damnit.
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>>84061982
You mean it's all three games in one? If so, that's not bad.
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>>84063366
No, I got the iPad for a birthday present. I paid 200 dollars for my iPhone (same as any Android phone) and my Macbook Air was 1000 dollars on sale during Black Friday which is no more expensive than an ultrabook.
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>>84063462
No, it's 55 bucks per version. Three versions.
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>>84063413
That's because the Koran is just Mohammed's mistranslation of the Bible, and thus he has caused 1400 years of misinterpretation.
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>>84063476
Why not spend that money on something good?
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>>84063502
T-that's too much. Maybe if it was like $20 each game, that'd be passable...
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>>84063372
Neat
Do I need to update or can I do it on my 6.0 ipod
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>>84063476
>1000 dollars
>on sale
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>>84063519
>That's because the Koran is just Mohammed's mistranslation of the Bible,

No... it's a collection of Muhammed's teachings.
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>>84063546

Read the site, that's all the help you get.
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>>84063413
It's actually more like 5, but we typically interpret several other passages to refer to him.

As for what Satan is, he is indeed made to test man. He tempts men, but only on Yahweh's order. He can't act with Yahweh ordering him to.
We don't actually have a "Devil." Satan's name is הַשָּׂטָן (Ha-Satan), which we usually translate as "adversary."
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>>84063372

>A4 devices only

Fuck I get this ipad for free and when I actually want to do something with it it can't be jailbroken
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>>84063525
Like what?

I have a top end gaming desktop and I wanted a lightweight laptop that's not some ghetto ass netbook.
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>>84063643

Guy who jailbreak his iphone lastnight. I have an iPhone 4S (A5 I believe) and it jailbroke just fine.
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>>84063662
Like, something not by Apple.
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>>84063620
Which were all misquotes from the bible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Syro-Aramaic_Reading_of_the_Koran
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>>84063662
How about you use your endless pool of money to by computer parts and make something better than overpriced machinery.
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>Translated IM@ster for 360 never
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>>84063769
I hadn't owned a Mac since the 90's and I wanted to get one to play around with it so I did. I don't get what the big deal is really, it has the same internals as an ultrabook, cost the same as any ultrabook and it is aesthetically pleasing...it just happens to run OSX.
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>>84063629
Well perhaps some of those references are sort of ambiguous, because the book I was reading explicitly said that he was either referenced three times or in three places.

That book was edited together by a Catholic Bible scholar, for what it's worth. He had enough fancy degrees to be taken seriously as a scholar, also.

Anyway the Christian interpretation of Satan is that he's ultimately playing in God's hands, as it were, but he thinks he's being rebellious by acting against God.

I'd been meaning to ask the religious studies guy at my university when this whole paradigm shit in regards to the devil took place.
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>>84063890
If you aren't willing to learn moon, you're undeserving of your aidoru.
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>>84064018
A few of them are fairly ambiguous, but we still consider them to be Satan usually.
There are a few more instances of him in the Book of Job, but after the beginning, most of the references are fairly ambiguous and there are still arguments over what means what. Job refers to an adversary several times, but nobody is sure if he actually means Satan or if he just feels as though someone is out to get him and calls them an adversary.

I know virtually nothing about Christianity and its related religions. I actually don't even practice Judaism anymore. It's an interesting subject, though.
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>>84064257
There are so many kanji how can I ever learn them all
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>>84064257
I'm learning, but I still don't know much kanji and vocabulary.
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>>84061790
Not even are the songs subbed. There is no reason to pick this up if you have the PSP games. Hell, there's no reason to pick this up.
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>>84062559
Basically. They're probably tired of Im@s fans asking them to bring the games over, so they did this as a way to make it fail, milk out a few dumbasses (like yours truly), and then go "Well, no one bought it, so it must mean they don't like the games as much as they claim."
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>>84062826
Do tell, Chen.
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>>84062103
>>84062018

Disney is a big company, and they know how to do kawaii when they want to. Wreck-It Ralph even has AKB48 in it.
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>>84064356
The OVA and dialogues are all subbed. OVA and song lyrics both have fan subs out there you can find. But not the game dialogue.
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>>84061486 (OP)

>people buy overpriced iDevices of $800
>They cannot buy apps pf $50
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Prepare yourselves for the swarm of /v/ermin who are going to buy it and come here to talk about it.
I guess I might as well quit perusing those threads.
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>>84065236
Most of /v/ either despise iOS, or have their iOS devices jailbroken. Trust me, interest over here is almost nonexistent.
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>>84063769
hahah fuck you man , you make my night
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>>84064876
It's pretty obvious considering how little they are spending in the way of advertising. It wouldn't be hard at all to make a profit off of the console IM@S games. As there is a fairly good following in the west. It's like they hate money.
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>>84062172
More like there are way more fucking Apple devices than PSP's in the West, and they know Im@s fans here are probably willing to pay, they just aren't sure how many, so they're gonna test it out.

That's not to say I condone submitting yourself to ass rape though.
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>menu translations only
So far so good.
>PSP rhythm game ports on ios for $60 each
What in the literal fuck are they doing.
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>>84065783
They don't even have the games on the New section of the AppStore
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>>84065947
I wanna say "It's cheaper and more convenient than importing," but yeah, it's shit.
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HOLD THE FUCKING NIGGERFAGGOT PHONE (PUN INTENDED)

This shit is ONLY on that faggot iOS???? The last 'console' (I don't even want to call it that sincerely) that the target audience would use or even own.

This shit is fucking balls. fuck this gay niggerfaggot earth
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>>84065947
Actually, they translated all in-game text, including all the little story sequences and they subbed the OVA.
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>>84062464
They made Train Simulator?
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>>84063132
Warriors Orochi 3?
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Good, I hope it never comes to the US, because I know the vocaloid tumblr fags will latch on to it and I'll have to deal with at least 20 obese miki's at cons, the tumblr dipshit retards who are anime only are bad enough.
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>>84066294
This. If you want im@s, learn moon.
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>>84066294
Oh god. I never even thought of that. I don't even want Idolmaster to be translated anymore.
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>>84066416
That only matters if you go to cons. And why the hell are you going to cons? It's fucking eyecancer.
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>>84066294
>Mikis
Could be worse. They could be cosplaying a good idol.
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>>84066464
You're right, but I still have to deal with the fact I know they exist.
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>>84066474
This nigga.
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>>84066545
Quit being an autistic asslord.
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>>84066530
Damn straight. Miki is the only bad idol.
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>>84066585
I support this.
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>>84066585
>he doesn't know about CG and ML
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>>84066727
>implying there's such a thing as a bad idol
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>>84066464
>That only matters if you go to cons. And why the hell are you going to cons? It's fucking eyecancer.
Yeah and the height of the Miku craze didn't spread retards everywhere right?

iM@S is huge in Japan, so I give zero fucks about it coming to the west, I get to enjoy it without worry because of those jap sales, with the added benefit of no retarded entry level weaboos who either couldn't bother to hunt the translated games down or learn moon.
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>>84066727
I know about them. They're not legitimate idols.
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>>84066862
If only there are more people like you in that cancerous general...
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>>84066930
>still browsing /@/
>not just checking the news and leaving
It went to shit when we allowed the wotas and yurifags to run the place, and then the CG fags merged and that was the final death blow.
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>>84066862
Thank you.
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>>84066858
Everywhere meaning where? I haven't seen any Miku's walking into my classroom. Unless you're going to shitholes like cons, you never have to lay your eyes on hambeasts in retarded costumes.
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>>84062826
Thank god for SMT.
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>>84066294
The US Vocaloid fandom largely originates from youtube, and the vast majority of chicks who cosplay Miku don't give two shits about Vocaloid they just wanted to go as something recognizable. You will regularly hear them utter such phrases as "Miku is my favorite Anime character", "I don't like the music I just think she's cute" and " I just like her outfit".
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>>84066930
You do realize that the people who cry and bitch and moan about CG are far worse than anything else, right?
You can have a bunch of people talking about CG idols with no problems, and then some fucktard comes along and does the whole "Stop liking what I don't like" routine and sends everything to shit.

YOU are the cancer. You're even worse than the contributor-haters.
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>>84066727
CG and ML are huge horseshit and the fact that a shitty obvious otaku pandering konata tier faggot "idol" like anzu can get a figma before the main cast makes me want to die.
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>>84067074
Nah, the final death blow is when some pretentious faggot that got a power trip thinks his thread is only the official one and posts CG as the OP.
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>>84065236
They already have the occasional idol thread.
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>>84067111
No shit retard, it's not translated and it hasn't come to the west.
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>>84067324
The generals are for all iDOLM@STER products, not just the ones that you personally approve of.
How can you POSSIBLY be this fucking stupid?
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>>84066294
>I don't want good games to come over because they might gain an awful fanbase that I could just ignore

Kill yourself.
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>>84067277
Have the actual idols had any news on their figmas since their announcement?
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>>84067390
Fuck off Jalexter.
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But the originals will get figmas still right? I mean, its not like if the orders for the two CG figures is low they'll shelve the whole line right?

Oh god....


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