>not using superior ICL build...

>>78900758
>superior
[citation needed]

>>78900822
>64bit

absolutely disgusting

>>78900822
>>78900799
>>78898806 (OP)
>using free open source players

>>78898806 (OP)
>still using some shitty ass windows 98 skin because you're afraid of change

legit autism

>>78900853
PotPlayer isn't FOSS.

>>78900868
>bashing others personal preference and calling that person an autist
Oh the irony

>>78900894
still free so it's pleb tier

>>78900868

You seriously think XP / Vista / 7 / 8 have better default skins?

You're a hoot.

>>78900789
ICL builds are faster (these are ffdshow builds, but comparable)
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1462027#post1462027

>>78900842
64bit > 32bit build, especially when you use shaders

>>78900842
Huh? How the hell is that disgusting in any way?

>>78900822
>potplayer
>ever

AHAHAHAHA HAHAHAH HAHA

Ha.

>>78900918
>ICL builds are faster (these are ffdshow builds, but comparable)

Faster at what? Building DShow graphs?

MPC performance is irrelevant, external components are doing all the legwork.

>>78900926
it's still better than e.g The KMPlayer (outdated shit) and VLC...

>>78900918
>>78900920

>not using madVR

>>78900939

might as well use MPC-BE if you want some shitskin on your player

>>78900936
If you're blind, they're faster in decoding and shader scripts processing.

Is there a way to tell if MadVR is using my Nvidia card or Intel HD 3000?

>>78900964

If you're blind, decoding is handled by external DShow filters in any reasonable setup, usually ffdshow or LAV.

>>78900947
madVR is shit. It doesn't support DxVA. It's GPU hog. It have very bad performance. And firstly I watching in 1080p and 720p, so why should I care about shitty red color transformations.

>>78900986

Use taxing scalers like Jinc+AR and monitor GPU load?

>>78901024

It's only a GPU hog if you pick elaborate scaling methods. If your GPU is even slightly not shit, it'll handle Lanczos+AR without breaking a sweat.

And it does support DXVA.

>>78901021
But my argument is still valid. They're faster in shaders and overall as app.
Don't forget that many of novice users still use only MPC-HC without anything.
And ffdshow is getting more and more shitty. LAV Filters is the only choice now IMO.

>>78901058
>it does support DXVA.
finally? I will take a look then...

>>78901073

How does the CPU even affect shader performance during regular operation, after compilation?

Also overall app speed is irrelevant, or when did you last wait for MPC to complete a task because it got CPU-blocked?

How good is MPCStar?

>>78900926
Potplayer is ideal for turning video into screenshots for gif making purposes.

So, any up to date guide on installing everything? Gonna format PC in the near future.

>>78901073
>many of novice users still use only MPC-HC without anything.
VLC is better than mpc-hc if you're not using external filters

>>78901162
>not avisynth/vdub

I bet you do crazy shit like "manually deleting every other frame" too

>>78901096
where have you been for the past 6 months?

>>78901180
how do you get those two to "play" 10bit?

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>>78901170

>>78901180
I used to use avidemux, but is absolute garbage and never works.
What is avisynth?

Also, I use Jasc to make gifs.

>>78901202
Oh and without CCCP.

>>78901209
>What is avisynth?

...you're better off sticking to potplayer.

>>78901170
You don't need guides anymore.
Just install this:
http://haruhichan.com/forum/showthread.php?7545-KCP-Kawaii-Codec-Pack
It's like CCCP, except good.

>>78901239
It's the same as CCCP but with madVR

>>78901170
http://www.dvbsupport.net/download/index.php?act=view&id=236

>>78901231
If you need a guide you're better off with CCCP. Less chances of fucking things up. And the latest CCCP is pretty much the same as any sane guide would recommend.

>>78901250
>It's the same as CCCP but with madVR and regular updates
Fixed that for you

>>78901235
Very useless.
Anyway, Avisynth looks like some 1337 hacker shit.
Why would I learn how to use that just to take some screenshots? That would be stupid.

>>78901266
yeah that as well

>>78901257

lol

>>78901250
What else would you need? They're going to include madflac next week or so, then it'll be even better.

>>78901239
>>78901250
Honestly, I'd rather not install any codec packs at all.

I got my current setup from a website whose address I lost. It was basically MPC-HC + madVR and LAV fdilters. Or I might be missing something.

>implying I care about all you plebs not using Notepad master race to watch your cartoons

>>78901276
>Avisynth looks like some 1337 hacker shit.
hahahahaha
>>78901276
>Why would I learn how to use that just to take some screenshots?
You shouldn't

>>78901192
>how do you get those two to "play" 10bit?

use ffms2 to open the video in avisynth
open avisynth script in vdub

>>78901290
So just install the codecs individually.

You can just follow the Haruhi guide.

>>78901276
>Why would I learn how to use that just to take some screenshots?

That's why I said you're better off sticking to potplayer if you don't know it.

>>78901296
>You shouldn't
Why did you suggest it then?

>>78901294
>2013
>still not responding

>>78900916
I quite like win 7's default skin

>>78901290
CCCP is MPC-HC + LAV Filters + Haali + xy-VSFilter.
KCP is MPC-HC + LAV Filters + Haali + xy-VSFilter + MadVR.
If you can't set those up with that information you should just install either of then. Installing them all separately won't make them magically work better.

>>78901310

You should already know it.

>>78900868
>>78900897
>>78900916
>not knowing that the win98 theme doesn't utilize hardware rendering on win7 & win8

>>78901290
But that pack is minimalist and provides you with everything you need at maximum quality settings.
There's no bloat or bullshit, KCP is not K-lite.

>>78901304
>You can just follow the Haruhi guide.
Last update was in 06/02/12.

>>78901310
if you don't even know what Avisynth is you really shouldn't learn how to use just to make gifs and just for the record I wasn't the one who suggested it

>>78901342
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=516729

>>78901357
That guy helps nand and some other persons to make KCP, by the way.

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I've been having problems with MPC-HC sound not working on certain files. All I hear is a sound reminiscent of popcorn popping. Am I missing something?

>>78901342
It just tells you what codecs to install and how to install them. It's not like the codecs themselves haven't been updated since.

>>78901357
I think that will work, thanks bro.

>>78901378

>nand
>still giving a fuck about anything not mplayer

>>78901387
You didnt install all the audio codecs you needed...

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>Not using MPC-BE

>>78901398
i'm not your bro, buddy

>>78901409
Swaps4 is nand.

>>78901387
>I've been having problems with MPC-HC sound not working on certain files. All I hear is a sound reminiscent of popcorn popping. Am I missing something?

Does your sound card have a digital connection to a receiver that can decode AC3, E-AC3 and TrueHD?

Because if not you better untick those bitstreaming boxes.

>>78901431
I'm not your buddy, friend

>>78901431
>i'm not your bro, buddy
I'm not your buddy, guy.

>>78901418
>64 bit

>>78901418
>using MPC-BE

>>78901418
>Using a Russian botnet
>any year

>>78900758
Does that have an impact on ISR?

MPC-HC's decoders are the same as LAV, even same performance because it's updated to the latest ffmpeg/libav sourcecode

There's zero need for external filters

>>78901447

Buddy Guy is a pretty cool guy.

>>78901289
why the fuck are they adding madflac? the second they add that shit cccp becomes the better codec pack

absolutely no reason to add madflac, where's daiz to tell them to stop

>>78901439
spot on, thank you.

>>78901475
>ISR

But yeah, probably.

>>78901387
>LAV Audio Decoder 0.52.0
>0.52.0
Well there is your first problem

>>78901418
Not so subtle Mr. Ruseman.

>>78901499
ISR is still buggy. MadVR is still better than EVR-CP. Internal Matroska splitter still doesn't support ordered chapters.

>>78901174
They are about equal.

>>78901499
>This is what Daiz followers actually believe

>>78901266
>It's the same as CCCP but with madVR and less stability
Fixed that for you too.

>>78901544
>Daiz followers

Daiz the Finland retard doesn't even know shit, who the fuck would follow that retard?

>>78901507
The argument was that it has better metadata support for Flac and that LAV audio completely fucks up audio channels of flac >2.0 sometimes.
Why does it bother you?

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>>78901418
Master race.

>>78901557
>less stability
How is it less stable?
It's not even out of Beta and pretty much works without problems.

>Hurr not MPC
>muh GPL
MadVR, LAV and xy works with other player too.
Including PotPlayer. Deal with it.

>>78901532
ISR works just fine

Ordered chapters are shit, no one sane will install buggy as hell Haali Splitter garbage which Haali doesn't even bother to fix his bugs

>>78901609
Wow, I LOVE the sub button.
Any chance to customize the interface of normal MPC like that?

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>>78901499

Whatever you say, bro.

>>78901626
you might think ordered chapters are shit but a lot of people still use them. doesnt change the fact that haali is fucking needed.

the fuck are you doing where you're getting bugs with Haali splitter, the fuck?

MPC-BE doesn't even release the sourcecode which they are obligated to under the GPL

Russians can't be trusted at all

>>78901626
I wait for the day when LAV splitter supports ordered chapters, then we can just do away with Haali for good.
But nobody seems to be wanting to code that, so here we are.

They all look the same and the differences are unnoticeable to the human eye

Placebo effect

>>78901609

Ahahaha that looks like something straight out of the olden WinAmp days.

>>78901627

There's that funny S key on your keyboard.

>>78900758
>Using buggy and shitty ICL build

>>78901609
Yuck, why is the time in the progress bar?
That's horrible, I feel like throwing up.

>>78901674
https://github.com/mpc-hc/mpc-hc/commits/master?&page=2

>update ffmpeg/custom_code.txt

Stay mad, faggot

>>78901595
[Citation needed] on both claims.

>>78901675
>the fuck are you doing where you're getting bugs with Haali splitter, the fuck?

Ever heard of OTF?

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>>78901626
>ISR works just fine
Nah, it's still buggy.

>>78901686

What the fuck are you on about? We aren't even discussing renderers in this thread.

/a/ - media players

>>78901614
More often updates + it's still, uh, beta.

>>78901595
dont know about the metadata but the whole notion that LAV audio fucks up more than 2 channel flac is retarded, i havent heard that since the days lav filters had just come out and people were still using ffdshow/coreavc.

I've never had problem with 5.1 flac.

IF KCP adds madflac it automatically becomes bloated shit. it should stick to what it has.

>>78901707

That doesn't bug me as much as the ugly gradient does.

Is MPC-BE skinnable? As in, are there alternative skins or are you forced to put up with this crap?

>>78901724
One should only care for clear, sharp subs, placement of subs is irrelevant

Enjoy your blurry ass subs with VSFilter

>>78901707
So you can hide everything but the progress bar without missing anything.

>>78901744
You know that CCCP uses beta software as well right?

>>78901759
>placement of subs is irrelevant
This guy

>>78901759
Your videos will still be blurry.

>>78901724

Use a 4:3 display if that bothers you.

>>78901744
>More often updates
Has this actually lead to any problems so far?
It's not even really out yet and you already talk out of your ass about how it's less stable.

>>78901800
My videos are sharp and clear

>>78901759
Bakuman is almost unwatchable with IRS sometimes.
Dat scrolling chat shit, holy dog...

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>>78901759
>placement of subs is irrelevant
shit /a/ says everybody.

let's all tell fansubbers that i'm sure they'd agree

>>78901777
That's tested thoroughly before CCCP stable is released.

>>78901832
Fansubbers are retarded, you don't have to replace the Japanese text at all

All people want is clear, sharp readable subs, not the blurry mess of VSFilter

>>78901808
No thanks. I like xy-VSFilter.

>>78901757
You can use classic MPC-HC skin with it.

>>78901820
And the subtitles with (xy-)VSFilter will be at least as sharp as your video.

>>78901724
>>78901831

MPC Options->Subtitles->Default Style, tick the box to the top right that says "Position subtitles relative to the video frame"

>>78901820
Then so will be your subtitles.

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1303699&postcount=12

Blurry subs a shit

>>78901838
The same can be said about KCP

>>78901882
You do know that doesn't fix the problem, right?

>>78901058
>Use taxing scalers like Jinc+AR and monitor GPU load?

I tested GPU loads and it's always using Intel 3000 HD graphics. My laptop has Nvidia Ge Force GT 520M. Is it supported by MadVR? I tried right click to choose the graphics card to run but it's still using Intel (from checking GPU loads).

>>78901855
you're fucking retarded if you think that's all what typesetting is.

fact is xy-vsfilter is needed. and "desktop resolution" subs will come in time for those who want it. I still favor the notion that subs should be at the resolution of the video so they blend with what you're watching rather than stick out but thats just me.

>>78901724

They STILL haven't fixed that? Oh wow.

Good thing that slightly unsharp subtitles don't bother me, I guess.

>>78901715
That's what was brought forth in favor of madflac in the KCP thread:
-LAV audio fucks up the channel mapping
-madflac has better meta data support.
You can go there and for details and examples if you want.
http://haruhichan.com/forum/showthread.php?7545-KCP-Kawaii-Codec-Pack&p=10805&viewfull=1#post10805

All components are optional and you can tick it off if you want anyway.

>>78902031
You can believe whatever you want, I get clear sharp subs with ISR and it works much better.

>>78902016

madVR supports all even remotely modern GPUs.

Dunno about the whole laptop / GPU switching business though - you might want to Google or maybe search the madVR thread on doom9 for possible solutions. For what it's worth you're not the first person to have this issue.

>>78902065
>LAV FLAC's channel mapping is utter garbage.
>FLAC
>channel mapping

The fucking format only supports a fixed, very limited set of channel maps. How can you even fuck that up?

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So I compared MPC-HC ICL's internal H.264 decoder with LAV video, and surprise surprise, LAV video performed better.

>>78902065
the fact that they're talking about adding Reclock as well on KCP makes me think they're beyond help.

If they add this shit i'm going to stop recommending kcp. can't believe theyre bloating a rather simple codec pack

>>78902158

Outside of the most common of channel mappings (mono, stereo, 5.1), multichannel audio encoding, decoding, and playback is basically one gigantic cluster of fuck.

There's literally no kind of conceivable or inconceivable faggotry in that field that can still surprise me.

>>78902106
Eh, I didn't use xy-vsfilter for the same reason as you for the longest time, but I DID notice problems with the sub placement, they just weren't very noticeable usually, like some subs outside of the video, but still within the player.
But with some shows (namely Bakuman), IRS completely shits itself and displays nothing or only a part of the subs when complex placement is used.

I started using xy-vsfilter, when I switched to KCP and it's generally more pleasant.
I have to say that I haven't watched DVD quality since though, that might become a problem.

If I understand this correctly, that won't be a problem forever though.
https://code.google.com/p/xy-vsfilter/issues/detail?id=97
If God wills it, xy-vsfilter might give us sharp subs in 2013.

>>78902193
If you're not using the latest 6640 build, it's invalid

>>78902065
Yeah, that's great, but some example files would be nice.
And if LAV audio has problems with flac, why isn't anything reported on its issues tracker?

>>78902200
Yeah, I wonder about re-clock too.
Please go in the thread and post if you have good arguments against it.
All I could say is "nobody fucking needs it".

However, it still stands that you can deselect everything during setup, but that is no reason to just bloat away imo.

>>78901357
>>78901378

>Usually able to flawlessly playback 10-bit 720p. 1080p 8-bit is okay, but 10-bit will depend on your GPU.
>10-bit will depend on your GPU.
>10-bit
>depend on your GPU.

>That guy helps nand and some other persons to make KCP, by the way.

They're fucked.

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1602316&postcount=13110

>AMD on the other hand is blacklisted in LAV, because some AMD driver versions accept 4K material, but then crash or even BSOD

AMD HAS NO DRIVERS

>>78902298
Ask in the thread. I'm just reposting. I don't even have a 5.1 setup.

>>78902322
but it does because of MadVR

>>78902340
I'm not registering to some faggy site. If they intend to viral they shit on /a/, they better answer the question on /a/ as well.

>>78902239
http://code.google.com/p/xy-vsfilter/issues/list

There's so many unfixed bugs in that shit, good luck with that

Meanwhile the rest of the world uses superior clear sharp subs

>>78902374
their shit*

>>78902374
But they aren't here.
I'm just some user.

>>78902408
So I hope those users repost it there.

>>78902408
someone tell nand to come here.

faggot comes here from time to time anyway to boast about /g/ shit when he doesn't even watch anime

>>78902398
One has sharp subs but fucked up placement.
One has subs at video resolution and buggy placement.

I never bothered with xy before the pack, is it easy to disable in case I wan to watch some old anime?
Complex sub placement doesn't really exist in low res anime, so IRS should be fine for those. I don't mind the slight blur in 720p+, but DVD is harsh.

>>78902193
>performance comparison
>using task manager

Adorable.

>>78902482
>and buggy placement
I meant perfect placement...........

>>78902443
If I asked for example files, I couldn't do anything with them if I got them, so it would be pointless for me to do that.

>>78902398
it's like you're implying ISR is perfect as well.

I love how you're the only person on /a/ defending this shit

enjoy your pleb subs while the rest of us are using a master race setup that took seconds to install

>>78902353
>but it does because of MadVR

But that's irrelevant. madVR will put just as much strain on your GPU for an 8bit video.

>>78902398
Now name some bugs from list that will affect you while watching fansubs.

http://www.bishoujoproject.com/mpc-hc-playback-guide/
All the rest is just a second-rate shit.

>>78902563
you clearly don't know what you're talking about

>>78902553
ISR is perfect, I only care for clear sharp subs

Text placement on signboards is irrelevant, just like ordered chapters are irrelevant

>>78902590
It's shit.

>>78902590
outdated.

read the components on cccp/kcp now and you'll see why.

>>78902538
You would post them in a later thread on /a/, saying how LAV audio is shit and madFLAC is master race.

>>78902601

Oh I damn well do.

Once JW's improvements are included in MPC-HC, all the xy retards will be TOLD hard

>>78902634
I would feel uncomfortable with that.
I know jack shit about all this audio stuff and can't even test the files in any way.

>>78902664
I think they are already. And ISR still sucks.

Is there much of a difference at all using EVR-CP vs madVR if you aren't upscaling/downscaling? My eyes must be going bad.

>>78902664
When will that be?
Is JW even still working?

>>78902682
Doesn't matter. Just keep saying how LAV audio improperly handles those files, and wait for somebody else to prove you right or wrong.

>>78902664
So you'll get less buggy subtitles that still stand out for being completely different resolution from the video? I'll stick to xy-VSFilter, thanks.

>>78902693
yes.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/2565
madvr's jinc3+ar vs EVR CP bilinear

>>78902731
Stick with your inferior blurry subs for all anyone cares

Rest of the world reads in comfort with clear, sharp subs

>>78902590

As opposed to BP which is third-rate shit?

>>78902664
>Once JW's improvements are included in MPC-HC

That happened one or two months ago for the vsfilter improvements.

>>78902244
6625, latest ICL build.
Which is much newer than LAV video 0.55.1

mplayer2 + smplayer + gl3 masterrace here.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison.php?id=2580

>>78902764

He asked about cases where you are NOT upscaling or downscaling.

The comparison you posted shows upscaling from 716x480 to 1280x724.

>>78902789
>>78902604
>>78902627
>outdated
Nothing really happened since that time.

>>78902764
>>78902693
sorry i didnt read the part of

>if you aren't upscaling/dowscaling

which i doubt you aren't what about 480p dvd releases. TV shows are 720p and movies are 1080p.

im sure you're always resizing unless you're watching one resolution of video all the time

>>78902693
No idea how EVR-CP handles chroma upscaling to be honest. But there is a difference between madVR and VLC at native resolution.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/2470

>>78902603
>text placement is irrelevent
Seriously?
It's terribly distracting when the text is off center or weirdly placed to me.
I'd much rather have subs that blend into the video than deal with wonky sub placement.

>>78902889
>madFLAC
>JW32's MPC-HC
It is outdated.

>>78902337
>AMD HAS NO DRIVERS
wat?

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/4095
EVR: Bicubic 0.75
madVR: Jinc 3 taps

>the hand and arm
No idea. It's exactly the same frame, I double checked (7170, if anyone cares).

>>78902935
>No idea how EVR-CP handles chroma upscaling to be honest.

Depends on your GPU, you might have to enable the YV12 Chroma Upsampling shader if you notice aliased chroma with EVR-CP.

>>78902969
>madFLAC
How is that outdated?
Were there recent developments?

>>78903046
No, that's quite clearly not the same frame.

>>78903073
MPC is fucked in some way then.
It is frame 7170 both times.

>>78902889
yes it has. CCCP got updated with the exact same components as that guide lists minus madvr (which KCP has)

your guide is outdated. it doesnt even talk about xy-vsfilter or madvr's new jinc algorithm.

madflac is obsolete.

your guide's from october, most of the new stuff thats talked about came out in december.

Plus CCCP/KCP comes pre-configured without any bloat/extra codecs so you dont even have to follow a guide for setting them up.

it's outdated. a lot of these online guides are.

>>78903046
Release is ANE, by the way.

>>78902969
>JW32's MPC-HC
I still prefer it to xy-VS
>madFLAC
Is perfectly fine. At least it works without problems with my Lynx AES16 & external DAC combo. And that's far more important for me than software "improvements".

>>78903100
I've noticed that the jump to frame feature can be a bit buggy for some reason. The best way I've found to get the same frame is to just framestep until you find the frame you want.

>>78903161
Well, shit.

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>>78903046
>testing a renderer/resizer with a 1080 source + image
nigga thats not how you do it.

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>>78902863
>mplayer2 + smplayer + gl3 masterrace here.

I think there's something about gl3 that keeps it from working properly on Windows, because I refuse to believe that the shit in pic related is already the full extent of its capabilities.

There's a clip with that frame at http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?q8ztvea31w12zgz

Please check what it does on your end.

>>78903203
Because I stare at gigantic upscales of tiny red letters all day long, rather than watching anime.

>>78903203
Some guy asked whether you would see the difference if you didn't upscale.

>>78903204

That's almost VLC levels of bad.

>>78903066
It was useful when FFdshow had some problems with FLAC. Now it's simply bloat.

>>78903218
i just posted a random image relating to the thread.

fact is if you have a 1080 screen and you're watching a 720 or 480 show show you should care about upscaling

>>78903272
Why upscale if you could just watch it at native resolution?

Even then it's more of a proper BDrip than a "ooh look at my madVR + madFLAC + fifty filters and shaders"

>>78903240
Oh what? that's a dumb question
>>78903218
Way to miss the point of the image

>>78902693
>Is there much of a difference at all using EVR-CP vs madVR if you aren't upscaling/downscaling?

The differences are mostly in functionality in that case. madVR always dithers reliably to RGB, it tries to bypass video "enhancements" your GPU wants to perform, you can switch color conversion matrix, deinterlacing/IVTC and levels via hotkey, it synchronizes to your monitor a bit differently, stuff like that.

>>78903406
because watching a 480/720p video without upscaling on 1080 resolution is the dumbest thing i've ever heard.

>>78903406
TV anime is 720. 1080 is just BDs upscale and/or movies.

>>78902118
Thanks. Searched online and finally figured it out.

In case anyone else has the problem:
For some reason the Nvidia control panel recognizes MPC but the option to use Nvidia graphics are grayed out. What I had to do was rename mpc-hc.exe and manually add it to the programs list.

Now I need to check weather this will give me improvements over Intel 3000 HD as it's a pretty low end card.

>>78903204
what do you want me to do with that clip? upscale it to 1080p and show the comparison from gl3 to madvr?

>>78901499
>MPC-HC's decoders are the same as LAV, even same performance because it's updated to the latest ffmpeg/libav sourcecode

About that...

>LAV is nearly 30% faster

>>78901710
>Stay mad, faggot

Nay thou.

>>78903630

Please upscale to 1280 pixels width (should end up at 1280x724) so it's comparable to the other caps of that frame.

But you can do one at 1080p vs madVR Jinc3+AR as well on top of that, if you feel like it.

>>78903668
do you mind testing ffdshow's decoder as well?

I've been curious as to how it stacks up to the current LAV, seen people /a/ that still swear by it

>>78903733
Where can you get the most recent FFdshow builds?

>>78903754
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout

>>78903754
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/

>>78903462
I can't be the only one who keeps my 720 anime at 720 on my 1200 screen, am I?

Perhaps it's because I dual monitor full time.

>>78903668

This is LAVFilters-0.55.1-17 vs latest MPC standalone filters by the way, all x86. MPC 6625 ICL and 6640 vanilla build exhibited the same performance.

>>78903733

Vanilla ffds (4499) ~395 fps, ICL ffds (4343) ~421 fps.

>>78903754

ffdshow.info for MSVC builds
videohelp.com for ICL builds (not updated since last February though)

>>78903852
>Perhaps it's because I dual monitor full time.

Wouldn't that mean that you could be using a full monitor for the video?

>watching anime at stamp size
>any year

>>78903852
wait why would you not have your video full screen while having dual monitors? shouldn't it be the opposite?

>>78903932

Clearly he needs a third monitor.

>>78903899
>>78903932

It just feels weird to have a monitor full of windows and a monitor full of movie. If I move one of my monitors and go into bed-mode I always fullscreen.

Not to mention that taskbars ignore always on top so I have to keep my focus on mpc if I fullscreen it. Otherwise I get this 1 pixel high line at the bottom of the screen that distracts me.

>>78903877
thanks but was sort of looking for an image comparison like you did before for archiving purposes.

if you can't, can you tell me where you got that performance decoder test program?

>>78904086
>ffdshow faster than lav
Fucking yes.

>>78904086
>>78904149
oh just as i post... that's pretty interesting that ffdshow is outperforming LAV slightly.

>>78904181
If both used default settings, LAV would outperform it. Both have increase of performance when I set number of threads to 8 though.
>>78904149
MONOGRAM GraphStudio.

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>>78904112
>It just feels weird to have a monitor full of windows and a monitor full of movie
But that's how any normal person would have it, i don't understand.

you're doing it wrong

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>>78904188
>that's pretty interesting that ffdshow is outperforming LAV slightly.

It is, especially considering that you're using an MSVC build of ffdshow. Mind testing the ICL one?

>>78904149

Here you go, and what >>78904254 said.

>>78904335
wait why is the older build outperforming the newer one

>>78904264
Perhaps I am doing it wrong. Maybe I just like having the mpc gui visible without it imposing on the show. It's funny, I don't even notice the changes in background every 30 seconds when watching anime in not-fullscreen.

As long as that taskbar is there though I'll never be able to full screen comfortably. Is it possible to prevent the taskbar from going over mpc?

>>78904423
>wait why is the older build outperforming the newer one

The older one is built with Intel's C Compiler, the newer one is built with Microsoft's.

And I'm testing on an Intel CPU.

Speaking of which, >>78904086, are you perchance testing on an AMD?

Or do you have another reasonable explanation for MSVC ffdshow of all things suddenly outperforming LAV, when it's nearly 10% slower on my system?

>>78904485
>As long as that taskbar is there though I'll never be able to full screen comfortably.

Ctrl+Enter / Alt+Enter / View->Fullscreen? Dude, how do you not know this?

>>78904573
Hah, it's amazing how much compiler -> assembly optimization matters. I never thought anything of it until I finally learned about cpu architecture and instruction sets.

>>78903722
how do is specify window size in mpc-hc?

>>78904485
i dont get why its not going over the taskbar. maybe move the taskbar to your other monitor? that's how it should be anyway. taskbar+browser+windows in one monitor, other monitor with just fullscreen mpchc.

or >>78904613 please dont tell you dont know how to fullscreen and are just maximizing the window

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>>78904335
The only difference I see is due to restarting computer.

>>78904573
I have i52500k. Are you using default number of threads in LAV video and FFdshow?

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>>78904613
Nono, I mean when I go fullscreen and move the focus off of mpc the taskbar will prioritize itself and go over mpc. I've set my taskbar to auto-hide to minimize the problem but it still annoys the shit out of me.

It's barely visible in the picture, but it contracts with my monitor and becomes very very visible and distracting to me.

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>>78904640

No real need for you to do it in MPC-HC

But if you absolutely want to make the cap yourself and can't set your monitor to 1280x? resolution, press Ctrl+J, and resize the window until it says "target rectangle 0, ?, 1280, ?"

>>78904720
>I have i52500k. Are you using default number of threads in LAV video and FFdshow?

Huh. Same CPU here. Both decoders forced to 8 threads. That was my idea, dammit.

>>78904840
If nothing else helps, madVR's Fullscreen Exclusive Mode will fix that.

>>78904844
yeah but when i make a screenshot using mpc-hc with the window being 1280x724 it still gives out the original 716x480 video

>>78904992
when i use save image in mpc-hc i meant.

>>78904887
That's kinda amazing. Makes me really curious of the reason for such difference.

>>78904992
Use print screen and crop with gimp.

>>78905014
not that dude but you could probably press 1 on mpchc and use snipping tool to save the image as png.

set snipping tool to window snip

>>78904955
Just tried enabling that, and unfortunately it made me unable to interact anything on my other monitor.

>>78905075
snipping tool?

>>78905107
Works fine here™

>>78905129
comes with windows 7. programs > accesories

>>78905148
Or not, the problem occurs only when the video is on the main monitor.

>>78905027
Assuming you both are clocked to the same speeds: RAM, HDD, OS, and everything else you have running.

The way programs are scheduled for a CPU is pretty complex and can affect test results. Your RAM/HDD and how the file is stored on the HDD can also cause differences.

>>78904840
>>78905107
that's hella weird I've never heard of this happening. but yea i see it in that pic.

wish i could help but i dont know what's causing it or how to fix it/replicate it since im a poorfag and only have 1 monitor at the moment.

>>78905227

The difference between our systems is uninteresting as we aren't even testing on the same file. What's odd is that the relative performance of LAV and ffdshow (especially the MSVC one) is so different.

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why does /a/ always have better media player threads than /g/?

>>78905387

Maybe we're just more obsessive about the whole thing. Last time I looked at a media player thread on /g/ it left me in a constant state of facepalm.

>>78905283
Ahah, I've figured it out and fixed it. As you'd expect it was my own bloody fault. I was to busy to watch anime when I set this monitor up so I didn't notice immediately when the problem occured. It's because I use display fusion to create that second taskbar as it let's me only display the stuff that's on that window. And in the settings for that specific taskbar I never unchecked the box for 'keep taskbar ontop of fullscreen applications when they lose focus'.

Thanks for basically troubleshooting me through until I found my problem lol.

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>>78905524
i always believed in you anon

>>78905462
too true.

>>78904844
here you go
my cropping skills aren't up to par so there's some movement going on.

but really there any noticeable difference

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/4120

So to those members of /a/ that use jinc upscalling. Does this cause you lots of lag when the camera pans from one place to another. I ended up switching back to Lanczos becuase the stuttering was pissing me off.

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>>78905720
>that aliasing on gl3
look at those disgusting edges

Sorry but google bring nothing. How do I run decoder testing?

>>78905799
Already mentioned in the thread - monogram graphstudio.

>>78905720

That's quite a bit of additional aliasing in the gl3 cap, but at least the sharpness looks more like what I'd expect from gl3.

Also the slight "movement" / difference is not due to cropping, it's caused by a slightly different chroma scaling implementation. It's basically offset by about half a pixel.

Mind doing another comparison at 1080p or whatever your monitor's native resolution is?

I'll definitely stick to madVR

>>78905827
We should all do decoder tests using that 4k underwater video.