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http://www.jisho.org/kanji/details/嘴

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>>/jp/

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Nearly forgot.
>Is it? I encountered it as なんじ several times.
>うぬ is derogatory.
That's just how I've seen it read before so I assumed that was probably the
reading to use but it seems I should have done research over something
with so many readings listed.

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Anyone else ever find themselves reading words in that tone that people use when they want to mock Asians?

>TABELUUUUUUU

It's distracting.

>>80364775
Like when speaking English? No. However if I'm reading Japanese I'm going to pronounce how it's pronounced in Japanese.

How many words in japanese are english loan words?

is there a list or something somewhere?

>>80364775
Reading loanwords aloud makes me feel kinda weird because of this.

>>80318195
More questions than expected here but I'd be glad if anyone could shine some light on any of them.
>本職の詩人ともなれば、いつどんな注文があるか、わからないから、常に詩材の準備をして置くのである。
How would you translate ともなれば? If you're main occupation happens to be a poet, you constantly prepare poetry materials because you never know when you'll get a request. Something along those lines?
>死ナズ在リヌル
To be without dying? Did I get that right? What's the conjugation called for 在リヌル?
>決シテ、ハカナキ態（てい）ニハ非ズ。と書かれてある。
Everything in the middle is quite unclear. And the end "has been written" I suppose.

>>80364775
>>80364995
I fucking love reading loanwords. Especially anything that originally ended in an "-er" sound.

Loan words are annoying. I would rather have jukugo instead.

>>80364775
I steadfastly refuse to pronounce loanwords in butchered katakana speech when I am talking to Japanese people. They just have to fucking get used to it, fuck them.

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I'm a bit confused by the jukogo descriptions on kanjidamage, what do the blue kana represent?
Are they particles or part of the word?
Should I include them when making anki cards?

>>80366141
>what do the blue kana represent?
Particles that the readings are usually paired with.

>>80366017
You pronounce butchered loan words in English all the time though.

>>80366430
Actually I tend to make an effort to piss people off by pronouncing as many loanwords as I can as if I were speaking the language they actually came from in the first place. One of the many benefits of having studied a million fucking foreign languages.

>>80366141

You should read up on grammar.

>>80366571
I would do this if I knew any foreign languages because I'm not one for being ignorant.
All this talk makes me want to sign a whitehouse petition for spelling reform.

>>80366141
You should ignore it. It's worthless and doesn't tell you anything that you won't already know if you know your grammar.

>>80365764
Bump

I wish I could retain more vocabulary. I'm trying 15 words a day but that's barely sticking.

>>80369386
I never really worried about my vocabulary. I probably should've considering I can't say much of anything but my understanding is well and good so I'm not really all to disappointed that I didn't focus too much on it.
Basically it doesn't seem to be too necessary outside of reading speed and production.

So does anyone here have some mega-vocab deck that goes considerably beyond JLPT1? As in novel, VN, manga, mined words over the years.

>>80369386
Once your brain gets used to the new language you'll soak it up a lot quicker. Your brain is like a muscle in that the more you do something the better and more efficient it gets at it. Just keep up with your reps and slowly increase them once you feel your current reps are too slow/easy.

>>80365764
>How would you translate ともなれば?
"in the case of"
your translation is fine, except it's "your" and not "you're", also 本職の詩人 is not "your main occupation", it's "a person whose main job is poetry (as opposed to one who does it as a hobby)"

I know very little about classical Japanese, and even less about poetry. You'd be best off trying to find some Japanese yahoo answers result explaining it (middle/high school students ask for interpretations frequently)

Did Lang-8 change so that you can't view other peoples' entries if you are not registered? I liked to go there for reading practice (Japanese people who include their native language in their entries, and English speakers trying Japanese along with native corrections)... but I don't think I can do that now.

>>80370039
Thanks
>except it's "your" and not "you're",
Apologies I don't think about it.
>本職の詩人 is not "your main occupation", it's "a person whose main job is poetry (as opposed to one who does it as a hobby)"
Practically synonymous.
>You'd be best off trying to find some Japanese yahoo answers result explaining it (middle/high school students ask for interpretations frequently)
Those were the questions I couldn't find answers to.

>>80370148
Can you see this?

http://goo.
gl/9weSA

I posted this a while back, but nobody is responding. This lang-8 thing isn't working for me either.

>>80370475
You don't have a picture.
Seriously that's a big deal if you want to be noticed.

>>80370727
Plus you said your native language is Japanese. Are you fucking retarded?

>>80371144
It was set to English when I asked the question and for a few days after. I just switch between English and Japanese to read various questions.

How do you guys answer your reps?

For the Core 2K+6K I look at the card and say "(reading) means (meaning)" and I think this is most effective for me because these aren't really kanji reps. So, for example, I read 笑う and say "わらう means 'to smile or to laugh'".

Do you do it a different way or am I doing it right so far?

>>80365830
コート

>>80371731
I read them backwards because fuck the system

How important is it to know each possibly kunyomi and onyomi for a word?
I noticed kanjidamage only lists 1-2 kunyomi and 1-2 onyomi for each kanji, should these be the only ones I memorize?

>>80372676
Yes. Most reading are useless and never used but all the ones he has listed will the be the ones that are used the majority of the time.

>>80371731
Why don't you just think about the meaning instead of linking them to English words?

>>80372676
Kun translates directly into a word, on is used for compounds, some of the time. Knowing a kun of a kanji lets you use that word, knowing an on only lets you make a more educated guess to a compound you haven't seen before.

Personally I prioritize kun over on when I study kanji most of the time but a lot of time on's are pretty easy so I probably know on for like 60% of my kanji without really trying.

Does anyone know a good way to reset progress in a deck? I've neglected my kanji reps for 2 months and 150 reviews have piled up, but luckily I was only ~200 kanji in. I'd like to restart completely from 0 and work my way back up again so that I'm not attempting to cram 100+ kanji back into my head at once. Any help is appreciated.

>>80372817
well how would you do it then

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Today's reading/translation exercise is from Hukumusume. The stories from here tend to be on the easier side, and many of Hukumusume's stories do not use Kanji at all.

エンドウ豆の上のお姫さま
From Hukumusume: http://hukumusume.com/douwa/amime/w/06_06.html
Illustrations and audio reading available (Click イラスト版 or the embedded Youtube link)

　むかしむかし、ある国に王子さまがいました。
　王子さまも年頃で、そろそろおきさきをむかえたいと思いました。
　けれど王子さまにふさわしいおきさきは、本物の完全なお姫さまでなくてはなりません。
　そこで王子さまは世界中を旅して回り、どこから見ても完全なお姫さまを探しました。
　ところがどのお姫さまも、美人でなかったり、品がなかったりして、どうしても王子さまのおめがねにかないません。
　王子さまはガッカリして国へ戻ると、すっかり気持ちが沈んでしまいました。

そんなある夜の事、ひどいあらしの中を誰かが訪ねてきました。
城の門を開けると、雨にぐっしょりぬれた一人の娘が立っていました。
「わたしは王子さまがお探しになっている、本物の姫です」
娘がそう言うので、その夜は城に泊めてやることにしました。
「本当のお姫さまかどうかは、すぐに分かる事ですよ」
王子さまのお母さんはそう言うと、娘のベッドにちょっとした工夫をしました。
　まず一粒のエンドウ豆を置き、その上にしきぶとんを二十枚も重ねて、さらに二十枚の羽根ぶとんをかけた上に娘を寝かせたのです。

I have just started learning Japanese. I've memorized all of the hiragana and katakana and am ready to start learning kanji. I've heard that learning them by radicals is much better than learning by strokes, so I would like to do that, but I have no clue where to start. So if anyone has done this, can you please tell me how you went about it?

>>80373192
Delete and redownload the deck? 150 isn't very many. I get over 300 reps per day.

>>80373228
次の朝、お母さんは娘にベッドの寝心地(ねごこち)はどうだったか尋ねました。
　すると娘は、眠そうな目をこすりながら、
「せっかくのおもてなしですが、寝心地が悪くて少しも眠れませんでしたわ」
と、答えたのです。
お母さんは、さらに聞きました。
「寝心地が悪いと言いましたが、どのように悪かったのですか？」
「はい。ベッドの下に、何かが入っていたのではありませんか？　背中に、あざがついてしまいました」
お母さんは娘が、本当のお姫さまだと思いました。
　だって、たった一粒のエンドウ豆であざが出来てしまうなんて、ふっくらしたベッドでしか寝た事のない人に決まっています。

　こうして王子さまは、やっと本物の完全なお姫さまをおきさきとしてむかえることが出来たのです。

おしまい

>>80373218
Don't worry about it he's just talking with ideas. Switch to J - J as soon as you can though.

So what's the difference between negative verbs and using a negative polite ending?

As a specific example I'm trying to say "do not know" and I'd think しってる　－＞　しってない, but then I've seen that "do not understand" can be わかりません and that leaves me confused.

>>80373244
http://kanjidamage.com/
Go through each of the pages under "getting started"

So a friend of mine is finishing off his 1st year of college Japanese....he didn't know what "お前” meant...in fact he didn't even know how to say "you" at all... Seems self study is the way to go.

>>80373911
That's usually one of the first things a language class teaches. I'm curious what he actually did learn.

>>80369510
Grab a corpus and frequency analyze it.
>>80371731
That's good for translating, especially for those that mean pretty much the same thing. You might want to add sentences and Japanese definitions though. Sentences so you could see how it's actually used and Japanese definitions because English ones can be misleading once you get more advanced. They double as practice too.
>>80373192
Don't reset. You don't have to do it all in one go. It's unlikely that you forgot it all. Just press again for those you get wrong. The review limit is there for a reason.

>>80373707
分 かるis weird like that for some reason. I think it's because it's sort of derived from 分ける's meaning(s) to divide/split up/apart, etc. so literally 分かりません might be "It's does not divide/split up" or whatever which would also explain why が is used. It's a pretty vague concept to understand but for example in Latin word for explaining something is explico which literally means to fold out. Understand in kind of similar in meaning and the concepts from which they're derived are also kind of similar.

>>80373911
I remember him learning names for buildings and household appliances....

So I'm just getting started. Is it better to learn katakana and hiragana simultaneously, or one then the other. Or is it just whatever works best per person, or should I just quit being a faggot and memorize them all already?

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>>80373911
What the fuck did you just say to me?

>>80373450
What I'm saying is what is a japanese translation of a japanese word? Like if I read 聞く how am I supposed to understand it?

>>80374110
Was I correct with 知ってない or would it be something else?

>>80373911
>>80374125
A few people I knew in highscool took Japanese online, they said it didn't teach any kanji at all.
Glad I never decided to take it.

>>80374269
No you're right with 知ってない

>>80373911

I don't know that I've ever even heard of someone gaining substantial knowledge off of classes. Those that do supplement a lot independently.

Meanwhile, everyone and their grandma has taken three years of Russian, never passed toddler level, and subsequently forgot all of it.

>>80374192
ドアホ

>>80374176
Learn hiragana then katakana

>>80373911
What a fucking asshole. I hope he gets aids.

>>80374315
Alright, thanks for the help.

>>80374380
>takes a class
>doesn't get taught anything
>HE is the asshole

>>80374445
There's no fucking way they didn't cover you. He probably just slacked off and masturbated in a corner like all the other faggots.

>>80373911
I guess it depends on the school... but I can say two people I know went to learn Japanese in university (Europe) and it's underwhelming. The amount of hours dedicated to actually studying the language is very scarce, since you also get history and other stuff. In fact, playing 1 eroge/month far surpasses the amount of class time they have.
They both graduated and they have absolutely no clue on anything that is not mildly-polite business-oriented Japanese. They can't even watch anime without subs since they don't do much listening comprehension, and they say that's the most difficult part, where many people fail hard (they went to different universities, by the way, but had the same problems).
Yeah...

You guys do realize that "you" is rarely used in Japanese, right?

I'm not surprised he didn't remember it, since it's so rare. Stupid nonetheless.

Also, "お前" is slang. No shit he doesn't know. Do you expect classes to teach words like "親父"and "ガキ"?

>>80374805
The retardation of education pisses me off to extremes.

>>80374841
It's used all of the time, just not as much as we would use it. He either slap-cocked his work or the teacher is slap-cocking his.

>>80374841
>"親父"and "ガキ"
You might as well have asked if I expected the class to actually teach the language.

>>80374841
>being in animu land for an entire year
>not knowing the word 君
suuuure

>>80374841
Did you just start learning Japanese or something? Just because every sentence doesn't have a pronoun, doesn't mean it's not still one of the most common words. お前 and あなた are both in the top 100 most used words in Japanese.

This thread is literally a better teacher than the best university course out there.

Even the semi-enlightened ones that somehow managed to use google to discover anki don't really make students add much per day.

It's both hilarious and a tragedy that most Japanese majors probably can't even pass JLPT1.

>>80375045
>>80375007
>>80374969
>Not using お主
ISHYGGDDT

>>80374841
I'm watching Japanese southpark with Japanese people typing over the video while watching...I'm seeing and hearing the word "お前” left and right...

The class probably taught polite speech. Saying きみ or　あなた is rude in non-colloquial situations.

>>80374969
>>80375007
き み is used in casual speech quite often, I'll give you that. あなた？ Nope. Most of it is a wife calling her husband, or maybe polite speaking acquaintances and friends.

>>80375045
>お前 and あなた are both in the top 100 most used words in Japanese.
Source?

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>>80375109
>not being a wolf

>>80375314
Do a frequency analysis on any Japanese text and ctrl+f.

>>80375314
>あなた is rude in non-colloquial situations.
It's probably the most polite way to say you without making it an honorific.
> あなた？ Nope. Most of it is a wife calling her husband, or maybe polite speaking acquaintances and friends.
I'll have to disagree.
>>お前 and あなた are both in the top 100 most used words in Japanese.
>Source?
Not that guy but they're both common as shit regardless.

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>>80375411
Btw, this is based on 5000 novels, and it includes grammar like だ and っけ, if you were to strip it to just words they would most likely be in the top 100.

>>80375411
What's the tool for doing that if I may ask?

>>80375314
普通に日本人を聞けば?　どうだい？ そりゃかなり十分な証拠だろう？

>>80375617
firefox + any Japanese website ever?

>>80375746
I was assuming this would be more official. In any case I'm interested on an actual tool for doing this if anyone knows of one.

>>80375804
I'm not even the guy who posted that. I meant get a script or something to scan a text file and parse it into Japanese words and sort it by frequency.

>>80375804
Have you tried boku no pico?

>教え甲斐があるのかないのかよく分からないアーニャに、健太は深く溜息をつくのだった。
How would I translate the end?溜め息をつくのだった that is.

>>80375915
Sorry I was under the impression that I had googled this before but apparently not.

>>80374239
耳に音

>>80374239
As it states it in a Japanese dictionary. (v5k,vt) 〈五〉 ① 音・声を耳に感じる

I think that a lot of language teachers are scared to assign the amount of work that learning a language truly demands, especially with beginning students.

Expecting students to spend a hour or two every night on study and walk out of five month's study with hiragana + katakana, a few hundred words, maybe a hundred kanji, and a decent grasp on grammar under their belt? That's crazy talk. Instead, we'll just teach them how to say "Good morning!" and board a train. They'll love that.

>>80375665
会話を聞いて、もっとも使われてる単語１００こききだしてこいと？
そんな無茶するくらいならほんの一冊や二冊読んだほうがましだとおもうけど

>see review word
>it's right on the edge of your mind, but you can't recall
>hit show; see word
>are sure that you would know it if you saw it in context

What button do you push, /djt/?

What is a better way to study vocabulary: memorizing index cards from a big list of words, or using a dictionary to force through sample readings and adding words to Anki? For me the former seems easier and a faster way to learn a lot of words (but also easier to forget), while the latter would build intuition slowly but more deeply with recognition practice.

I'm thinking it would be better to memorize some vocab to recognize in samples, but that's the point anyway in the end and would require studying index cards and practice readings separately. Is there maybe a vocab guide that could help teach in a structured manner like grammar and kanji are taught?

>>80376540
Again. You obviously don't know it well enough.

>>80376540
Anything other than perfect recall on the spot is a "hard" for me.

If it happens more than once, I hit "again"

>>80376540
Again obviously. Put context so you don't have to make excuses.

>>80376552
Anki + reading gives you the best of both methods.

>>80376540
All or nothing
http://images.4channel.org/f/src/Look%20at%20my%20Horse%20remix.swf

>>80376233
どっちでもいいじゃん？

>>80376552
Go mine Japanese text.

>>80376552

My plan of attack is to hit maybe 800 words (happy to say that it probably won't take long at this rate), work my way through Tae Kim's essential grammar, and then pick up Yotsuba.

>>80376687
>>80376730
Not that guy, but how do you make use of reading if you're at beginner levels?
If you don't understand any or most of the words around the words you do understand, how is that any more helpful than just reading the word along?
Seeing something in context is only useful when you can understand the context.

>>80376954

You don't. Shit's useless. Grind vocab moar.

That's my experience, anyways.

>>80376954
Because you're seeing them placed in actual sentences and you are forced to break down the sentence and learn common structures. Rikai is there to help you with any words you don't know.

>>80376954
>reading the word along
Elaborate.
You're gonna grind anyway right?
You don't use context only.
You pick the words that seem useful.
You get actual practice.
You don't have to understand everything.

>>80376233
>平成25年
>本を読む事
汝が何をやっておるのじゃ？

>>80377530
Banging your mom.

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So I just learned my hiragana and katakana with Namasensei. I guess there's not going to be many times that I'll need to write them out, but I sort of want them to still be legible. If you guys could critique my writing and tell me if anything looks wrong then I'd really appreciate it.

>>80377631
Legible. Certainly better than Namasensei's.

>>80377631
I can tolerate the others, but you should fix these :
な　ぬ　ね　め れ　わ

Some of your handwriting looks terrible, write more and try to mimic computer's font (handwriting style if possible) :

http://www.umich.edu/~umichjlp/Hiraganapro/

It's hard to correct bad habits once you're get used to it.

Your う looks like a ラ, Your え looks too angular and like a ス, the bottom should be curvy. き and さ　shouldn't be connected, your ぬ, れ, and わ needs some work.

ス looks like 久
フ looks like a backwards く.
チ, ツ, and ネ could use more work.

>>80378469
>>80378491

Thanks for the feedback. I'll try to work on these things

さすが白豚　だまされやすい

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Oniichan_CD_Track13_sample.ogg

>>80379829
What kind of page would even use this?

潮と渚が死んでいます。

>>80371731
That's what I do. It doesn't really matter because anki is just a supplement. You should be learning your words, how to use them, etc through other means, and anki just reminds you how to read them to make reading japanese easier.

>>80364453
>>80364485
I'm not the only one that immediately thought of this, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKPCCuHiVSg

>>80380366
安らかにR.I.P.

>>80381526
バラバラにR.I.P.

>>80381659
ちんこまんこにRIP

So whats the difference between reading and learning? From what I gather Using TA to look up words is fine but using it to learn will get you kicked out of the thread. So is TA bad to use then? Am I allowed to use it or will it just hurt me?

I asked in the wrong thread while continuing the trend of translating everything that pops up on 4chan.

>晴れのち姦々
Clear skies after rape^2?

How do you guys feel about Namasensei?

>>80382266
50 times. YOU BITCH

I'm sorry to bother you guys, but could anyone translate this for me?
http://mm.my-gg.com/cp/before_walpurgis/

>>80382266
Horrible

>>80382485
That reminds me, is there a reason a lot of Japanese sites use pictures with text in them instead of text?

>>80382266
Useful for kana and te-form conjugation, funny motivator.

>>80382734
So that baka gaijin players like s are left out. And all of us who do speak moon are currently offline.

>>80381866
please help I want to know if I'm hurting my studies

>>80382943
ur a fagget

>>80382943
Couldn't help you as I haven't frequented enough to know what TA is.

>>80383051
TA is teacher's assistant. They help you grade homework and shit.

>>80381866
Do what you think works.

>>80383189
Use them bitches to look up words.

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Hello. I've yet to delve too much into Kanji. I've got a decent grasp on katakana and hiragana, and can pretty much sound most things, just sort of slowly, and going through my flash cards for both kana to pick up speed on that. I'm also very weak grammar wise, but I'll keep studying.

I'm going to delve into Kanji soon and try to get about 300 beginner ones down in 2weeks-month since I've had nothing but time for the last 2 years and finally putting it to use.

I know about immersion and such, and I use all the techniques out there I've heard off, but I have a question.

When I was a little kid in elementary I would read simple 50-80 page books to improve grammar and that reading was invaluable. So about how much knowledge of the language should I have to be able to read the Japanese equivalent of elementary school literature and obviously simple manga?

>>80383400
but from what I've heard it hurts you in the long run to use those tools.

>>80383868
See >>80383045

>>80383798
Solid grammar. You didn't have Kanjitomo, or Rikai when you were reading as a kid.

>>80384508
Don't know much about Rikai. Kanjitomo is pretty cool, but I haven't used it much.

WWWJDIC has to be my favourite online resource. Nothing like a dictionary with audio to ensure proper pronunciation.

I also enjoy Genki. Though still working through it. I can see why it got a lot of positive reviews though, it's a solid resource.

Anyway do you have any recommendations on things to read at the elementary level? This way I'll pick up the suggestions when my reading ability is competent enough.

>>80385077
You should clear Tae Kim, and Genki first. I didn't bother reading anything before having done that. You'll also probably find that translation aggregator is especially useful if your grammar isn't solid. http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/the-great-library/beginner-level/ may be useful

>>80385414
There's also the Mangaland series of books which you may also find interesting if reading is your goal.

>>80385414
Great advice. Thanks a lot. Those books are great.

>>80385501
I appreciate the help. I'll take a look. As for my goal. I want to be absolutely fluent at one point, both to be able to enjoy Japan's incredible entertainment industry to the fullest and to bring myself closer to the natives by being understanding and respectful of the customs and culture they have and being able to converse properly and politely with them. As well as expressing an attitude to learn what I don't know.

I have a lot of admiration for the Japanese, and I want to be able to express that by understanding Japan as much as they do and after that objective is complete, my dream is to contribute to the country in some way.

>>80385854
Whoa man, we just want to fap to their artwork. People with your attitude belong over here >>>/jp/

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>>80386018
When my Japanese is at the intermediate level, /jp/ isn't on my list with actual Japanese sites being accessible.

Plus watching anime and reading manga is my greatest passion and a huge factor for learning Japanese, since I want to watch and read all my stuff raw.

>>80335810
Thanks! I guess it was a problem with the txt file I got from aozora since I just copied and pasted that section.

Man I hate writing わ, れ, and ね

>>80388770
I hate you.

>>80390704
No bullying please

バムプ

>>80385854
>I have a lot of admiration for the Japanese, and I want to be able to express that by understanding Japan as much as they do and after that objective is complete, my dream is to contribute to the country in some way.
Wow. I don't know what to say.

Beginner here, anyone know why I can't type 死ぬ on google IME?

>>80395450
Am I doing something wrong typing "shinu"?

>>80395587
死ぬ
using google IME, typing shinu and pressing space once or twice (think it was once but cannot recall properly)

>>80395587
>>80395739
>Typing the h at all
Are you trying to burn extra calories because you have fat fingers, or what?

>>80396753
actually, I do have a fat finger, but that's neither here nor there, I just prefer to type the h because it seems more natural to me, and it's the way I've learnt to do so

>>80396753
Isn't typing with 10 fingers a standard regular skill on 4chan ?

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>>80396753
>not using direct input

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>>80395739
Thank you, any reason it doesnt appear here?
死ぬ

>>80397107
Keep scrolling

>>80396961
People can't type for shit. I wouldn't be surprised if half of the people here still type with just two fingers. It's pretty embarrasing when you see those people using a computer.

>>80397146
Well, after having input it with spacebar it's now the first one that pops up. I swear it wasn't there before though...

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>>80397168
>2012
>not using two single hand Dvorak keyboards simultaneously

>>80397289
>>2012+1

>>80397289
>2013
>still thinking it's 2012
I shiggy diggy.

>>80397168
I sure am glad of all the time I wasted on runescape as a teenager these days. Its probably the only reason I learnt to type quickly

>>80364536
>A fucking scary dude

>>80397168
Do they not even teach touch typing in public schools anymore?

>>80400802
My elementary school was teaching 10 finger typing. I hope it's still like this.

>>80400884
I don't think it matters considering most children only ever type on phones and tablets now anyway.

>>80401173
Yeah. Pretty sad.

Do kids seriously not type on keyboards anymore?

I remember doing mavis beacon and crap with the orange film covering the letters. Then I discovered instant messengers and quickly surpassed 100wpm.

>>80401572
I only know that people don't know how to use keyboards correctly. In my university, 90% of people I have seen type using only a few fingers while looking at the keyboard. Maybe it's a thing of my country, because they didn't teach us how to type in school.
And yes, I think kids nowadays just use their smartphones.

I wonder if kids today see people who know how to actually type and we look like characters in old hacker movies whose fingers just seem to fly over the keyboard...

I also use only several of my fingers but it doesn't really matter because I think about what I want to post in English slower than I type.

>That one Kanji/Word that simply wont get into your head no matter how many times you review it.

Which one is it /djt/? Mine is 脱 (脱ぐ) and i don't even know why, i've been through a bunch of harder shit just fine.

>>80402488
>/djt/
Please don't do this. There isn't a /djt/, this is /a/ and thinking of DJT as a separate board can only bring us shit in the long run.

>>80402488
Pay attention to radicals. My guess is that you're probably having trouble because you didn't properly learn a lookalike such as 説. The visual information you commited to recognition was the 兄 shape, and it's giving you trouble now.

>>80402488
擁 keeps fucking me over

>>80402488
The dumbest ones: 左　右

>>80404201
"open is left, closed is right" is how I remember it

>>80404201
Eat with your right hand, work with your left.

>>80404201
>>80404394
You throw your 石 with 右 hand.
You hold your 工 ruler with 左 hand.

>>80404394
>>80404461
>>80404505
Thank you. I'm surprised I didn't think of learning both of them as opposites instead of completely unrelated.

>>80404461
I declare yours the winner. I don't have much of a problem with those anymore but I'm sure I'll find it helpful.

How is your listening level in comparison to reading level?

>>80406342
Fucking shit. I don't know what would I do without my moonrunes. Too much homophones for me. Not that I trained my listening really hard. I just want to read for now.

>>80406342
About half as good.

>>80406342
Pretty shitty. There are anime whose source material I can read without much difficulty like Maoyuu or Horizon, but I have a difficult time understanding what they're talking about in the anime even though I've read them beforehand, just because I'm not used to hearing or using a lot of technical words in conversation.

>>80406342
I don't know about you, but if I watch something with subs once (it doesn't matter how long ago), I can watch it the second time with 95% comprehension with no subs.

Odd.

>>80407943
What does comprehension mean? Knowing what's happening, or knowing 95% of the individual words?

>>80406342
I can watch anime/movies raw. Fuck if I new more than a few hundreds kanji. Someday I'll learn them properly, so that the pacing of my eroges will not be screwed anymore...

Has anyone played this?
http://vndb.org/v8038
I know it's a nukige, so it shouldn't have very difficult japanese or story. Or at least I hope so. I love the art, but I don't want to be overwhelmed.
Should I go for something easier?

>>80410590
Dialogue is easy and there's a lot of it. The prologue a little less so, as it's more descriptive. Once you got past that it's a nukige after all, so yeah I think you can try it.

>>80410590
I don't remember the language being too hard but not too easy either. The story seemed rather simple from what I read so I doubt you'll miss too much if you have trouble with some descriptions or something. What's the worst that could happen? The H-scenes start quite in the beginning and there are animated scenes so at least you'll get a fap or two out of it.

Reminds me, I should get back and read this and the sequel sometime later.

>>80410919
>>80410935
Ok. I'll give it a try. Thank you, guys.

>>80411207
Have some of the first lines to try out:
>仲居 「いらっしゃいませ。遠いところをようこそおいでくださいました。お疲れになりましたでしょう？」
>深見 「いや……空気もきれいでリフレッシュできました」
>仲居 「そうですか～。それは何よりです」
>僕がこの信州の山間の温泉宿を訪れたのは、執筆のためだった。
>僕の仕事は、小説家……と言えば聞こえはいいが……まだたいした作品も残していない、駆け出しのホラー作家である。
>１年前に過度川ホラー大賞という賞を頂き、文壇にデビュー。その後は文芸雑誌やホラー雑誌などにちょこちょこと短編を書かせてもらっている。
>一流の売れっ子作家には程遠いけれども、贅沢を言わなければどうにか食っていけるだけの仕事はある。というのが、偽らざる僕の現状だった。

Oh my, ha! A hoe KA

Fuck 楽

Kanji がく
Vocab らく
Most words たの・。。。 ex: 楽しい

>>80415339
That's actually an interesting example.
がく for music related words
らく for pleasure related words
>Most words
You mean 3.

>>80415538
楽しみ
楽しい
楽しむ
shut up ;_;

>>80415339
>Most words たの
Not really. Sure 楽しい, 楽しむ and 楽しみ are quite common, but more words come to mind that don't use "tano".
楽園、落書き、楽天、楽観、楽　itself and 楽器 out of the top of my head. There are probably way more.

>>80415599
Those are pretty much the same word anyway.
い for adjective form (ends in i)
む for verb form (ends in u)
み for noun form (stem of verb form)

The japenese say "あの。。。" quite a bit. Purrrfect

>>80417262
Funny if you know spanish.

>>80417426
Ha ha. It's funny, because ano means ojete del culete!

How do you know if a する verb is transitive or intransitive?