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>>/jp/

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http://jisho.org/kanji/details/腋

I sure have defined 脇 as armpit/side instead.

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http://jisho.org/kanji/details/爾

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http://jisho.org/kanji/details/溥

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http://jisho.org/kanji/details/茸

>>79332420
should have

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http://jisho.org/kanji/details/丞

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http://jisho.org/kanji/details/壺

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http://jisho.org/kanji/details/壷

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http://jisho.org/kanji/details/拗

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http://jisho.org/kanji/details/悸

>>79332665
動悸

why can't I hold all these kanji?

>>79332465
Why does this one have a green reading?

>>79334406
Looks cool.

>>79334406
It's a name reading.

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俺は日本だ。

>>79335735
>ローマ字
マジか？

>>79335864
Its off the wikipedia page for Japanese prefectures, the guys just grabbed the first image for his oh so funny joke

>>79335951
I read it as, "I am Japan"
or "I (topic) Japan (particle)"

I don't get what he's trying to say.

Is he trying to say "I Japan" like you'd say something retarded in chan speak, like "I into moon"? Because if so, that indeed isn't very funny and doesn't work.

>>79336107
It's an old joke where people would say 俺は日本.

>>79336107
> "I am Japan"
正解

>>79336107
It's an old 'joke' that started when someone fucked up typing "I am Japanese".

>>79336172
>>79336205
>>79336157

Huh. Sounds on the level of I AM GUNDAM then.

ここ誰が外人ですか。

>>79336382
「僕です」と狐が答えた。

>>79336382
外人は火を食べるべき

>>79332356 (OP)
函館 famous place
>>79332439
Shit, I thought it was the なんじ　in
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm301198
When does this one get used?
>>79332567
>>79332597
These are just 新字体 vs 旧字体 differences. Same thing.
>>79332629
擁護

>>79336614
Foreigner eat fire?

What the fuck does 火 have to do with 食べる?

>>79336686
>Shit, I thought it was the なんじ　in
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm301198
>When does this one get used?
In names and old things.
>These are just 新字体 vs 旧字体 differences. Same thing.
Indeed.
>擁護
? 執拗 is one.

>>79336887
Foreigners should eat fire.

>>79336938
So the "invitation" part of it can be represented by should? I figured eat but interpreted as a command worked.

And, why not くそ? Is eating 火 some sort of idiom for suicide, like the 火 from a gun?

>>79336938
>? 執拗 is one.
Shit, misread.

>>79337077
Don't know what "invitation" you're talking about but べき(可き) has the meaning of should.

>>79337077
>火 some sort of idiom for suicide, like the 火 from a gun?
You're thinking too much about it. It's as simple as it seems.

>>79337175
Rikaisama says word used at sentence end like a particle used for speculation and invitation. But that makes sense put in that way.

>>79337237
So, just eat fire. Huh. That no doubt sounds mean, but just doesn't sound logical in English. Well it does, but it just sounds like some sort of weird idiom.

>>79337324
Probably should consider updating your dictionary.

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whats the best way to memorize hiragana? seriously this shit is pissing me off.

>>79337547
Realkana and stop being bad.

>>79337547
>seriously this shit is pissing me off.
Can't wait to see how mad you are when you actually start learning anything difficult.

>>79337547
Memrise. People will advocate rote, but it's a load of shit. srs is the only decent way.

>>79337547
I bought a iapanese dating sim game.
I know some phrases from watching anime but sometimes theres stuff you can't understand you're forced to search for it from different sites. I learned this way.

>>79337547
notebook
fifty times
etc

>>79337687
>srs for 46 characters

http://www.nihongoresources.com/media/flash/kana.swf
Learn it in a day.

What's the point of OP posting a bunch of borderline useless kanji at the start of every thread? It's not like other generals on 4chan need content injections by the OP to keep them going.

>>79337621
>>79337632
>>79337687
>>79337743
>>79338027
fuck you, and thank you.

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>>79338193
YOU BITCH

>>79338159
Why? Just because you can learn inefficiently, and we did, doesn't mean you should advocate it to others. Rote is a fucking waste of time, and you know it.

>>79338526
Since the kana are so very simple and short, it's really not so bad if you spend a day or week brute forcing them so long as you don't try to apply that to everything else in the language.

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「百葉箱」って今日の言葉

>>79337547
Write it down, find words you want to know in Japanese and write them in hiragana a few times.

>>79338597
I know it works, but it's terribly inefficient. It being short, and easy isn't a proper excuse to use inadequate learning methodology. It's more a rite of passage at this point then what is honestly the best way to learn.

葉下背だにゃ

>>79338673
dick pussy ass penis boobs asspussy shit fuck bitch bastard shitskin and racial slurs are some of some of things i want to learn, guess i could start with those.

>>79338770
なーーーーーーんでｓｒき
This is what you sound like.

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So this is probably a stupid question but bare with me. Obviously in japanese there is kanji and kana mixed together, with only learning the kanji am i going to have to go back through them and learn how kana affects a certain kanji?

>>79339004
What? You need to learn Kanji and Kana if that's what you're asking.

>>79339004
面白い

It's called vocab, and yes just learning kanji isn't going to get you anywhere. You can clear all Kanji, be able to write them down and everything. But if you don't do any vocab or grammar, you won't even be able to read Yotsuba& without a dictionary.

>>79339004
Yeah, particles and conjugation fall under grammar and okurigana should be learned alongside kanji, in my opinion.

Incase you don't know okurigana are the trailing kana after a kanji in the kun reading example: 行く(いく). It's how a single kanji can have 10 different meanings outside of compounds without being too confusing. Some don't have okurigana and have different readings, but fuck those.

>>79338739
Spend a month learning kana through SRS.
or
Spend three days learning kana rote.

Hmmm..

「よつばと！」がたくさん面白かったです。日本語であなたが漫画を読めるの何ですか？

言 radicals on the bottom look so ugly.

警

#YOLOしく

>>79339626
Why take longer with srs? If you add the same amount it takes less time with srs.

What's your name in Japanese?
Mine's 南。

>>79340380
服湯

>>79340380
ミルク

>>79340380
In terms of meaning?

Fuck. Finally this thread is here so that I can post this and move on with my life.
http://sukebei.nyaa.eu/?page=torrentinfo&tid=23370
Please seed; besides me there are only 2 other people seeding and I don't even know if they have a full copy.

>>79340380
My friends call me 巨根

>>79340478
I am Chinese so...
But why not. If your name means something, it'd be better to translate to Japanese because they suck at other languages.

So apparently 架空線 means power lines even though 架空 in every other context means fictional. Good to know, I guess.

>>79340681
赤 then.

>>79340725
>架空
>(adj-na,n,adj-no) aerial; overhead; fiction; fictitious; imaginary; fanciful; (P)
>aerial

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〇的入宅作是〇一部？

The fuck is this shit, I can't translate it OR find those 2 Kanji in Jisho.

>>79341095
It's Chinese.

Today's reading/translation exercise:

浦島太郎
From http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/the-great-library/lower-intermediate/
Difficulty: JLPT N3

昔、浦島太郎という人がありました。ある日、浜辺を通っていると、子供が大勢集まって、何か騒いでいました。
見ると、亀を一匹捕まえて転がしたり、たたいたりして、いじめているのです。浦島が「そんなかわいそうなことを
するものではないよ。」と言いましたが、子供らは、「何かまうものか、僕たちが捕まえたのだもの。」と言ってなか
なか聞きません。「そんならおじさんにその亀を売っておくれ。」と言って、亀を買い取りました。浦島は亀の背中
をなでながら、「もう二度と捕まるなよ。」と言って、海へ放してやりました。

それから二、三日後のことでした。浦島が船に乗っていつものとおり釣りをしていると、「浦島さん、浦島さん。」
と呼ぶものがあります。誰だろうと思って、振り返って見ると、大きな亀が船のそばへ泳いで来て、ぴょこんとお辞
儀をしました。そうして、「この間はありがとうございました。私はあの時助けていただいた亀です。今日はお礼に
竜宮へおつれしましょう。さあ、私の背中へお乗りください。」と言って、背中に乗せました。

(Part 1)

>>79341159
間もなく竜宮に着きました。たいやひらめなどが迎えに出て来て、奥の立派な御殿へ通しました。美しい玉や
貝で飾ったその御殿は、目も眩しいほどきれいです。そこへ、乙姫様が出ていらっしゃいました。そうして、「この間
は亀を助けてくださってありがとうございました。どうぞゆっくり遊んでいってください。」と言って、いろいろごち
そうをしてくださいました。たいやひらめなどが面白い踊りを踊りました。

浦島は、あまり面白いので、家へ帰るのも忘れて、毎日毎日楽しく暮らしていました。しかし、そのうちに、お父
さんやお母さんのこと考えると、家へ帰りたくなりました。そこで、ある日乙姫様に、「どうも長くお世話になりまし
た。あまり長くなりますから、これでおいとまをいたします。」と言いました。

乙姫様はしきりに止めましたが、浦島がどうしても聞きませんので、「それでは、この箱をあげます。しかしどん
なことがあっても、ふたを開けてはいけません。」と言って、きれいな箱をお渡しになりました。浦島は箱を抱え、
亀に乗って海の上へ出ました。

もとの浜辺へ帰って来ますと、驚きました。村の様子はすっかり変わっています。住んでいた家もなく、お父さ
んもお母さんも死んでしまって、知った人は一人もおりません。こんな時に、箱を開けたら、どうかなるかもしれな
いと思って、乙姫様の言ったことも忘れて、そのふたを開けました。すると、中から白い煙がすうと立ち上り、浦島
は髪もひげも一度に真っ白になって、お爺さんになってしまいました。

(Part 2)

>>79341192
Vocab list:

浦島太郎 Urashima Taro
そんなら If that’s the case..., If so..., Well then...
ひらめ flounder (fish)
浜辺 beach
買い取る to buy, to purchase
御殿 palace, court
騒ぐ to make noise, to be noisy, to make a fuss
なでる to brush gently, to stroke, to caress
玉 precious stone (Jade)
亀 tortoise, turtle
放す to set free, to turn loose, to separate
眩しい dazzling, radiant
捕まえる to catch, to arrest, to seize
ぴょこんと quickly, action of quickly bowing
乙姫 (youngest) princess
転がす to roll
お辞儀 bowing and greeting
いとま 1. spare time, free time 2. quitting (job), leaving
たたく to strike, clap, beat, drum
竜宮 Palace of the Dragon King
しきりに 1. frequently, often 2. eagerly, strongly
いじめる to torment, to tease
たい sea bream (fish)
すうと quietly, gently, softly / すっと

>>79340380
Mine would be 最大 if literally translated. My name is Max. I though of just transcribing into kanji like so: 馬九数. I think that's a bit too weaboo though.

my captcha was "Max rynamatt" wat

>>79340380
スミス
>your name will never sound Japanese
;_;

Did any of the newberts see this? >>79340494
Add to the pastebin perhaps?

>>79341338
>your name will never sound Japanese
ヱアーブが嫌だね。

>>79341159
Now that I have the chance to ask, for some reason I cannot understand how という and っていう　work. Is there an easy way to work with these?

回答するください。

>>79341129
I thought so to, but I did a Google TL and nothing intelligible came, and I tried to search the similar to 尓/称 rune in Hanzi search, but to no avail

>>79341578
Mandarin.

>>79341534
It's 你. I'm not sure if that was your question. The other one is 哪.

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>>79341338
>your name will never sound Japanese
Actually...

>>79341738
It was a broader question as to how という and っていう work in any sentence. Sorry If I was not clear.

>>79341861
I fucked up really bad and quoted the wrong person. Anyway, っていう is the same as という as far as I know, but って alone can mean many different things. See: http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/define

I posted Chinese anyway lol

>>79341534
It essentially just means "called", e.g. 恋と言う気持ちはいつでも刺のある。

恋と言う気持ち just means "the feeling we call love" or "the feeling called love".

Of course, it gets used in a shitload of contexts, but if you just break it down you can usually figure out what it's trying to say.

I actually used to have trouble with という before, but I found that a bit of reading practice made it much clearer what it meant.

>>79342017
I meant to quote this guy:
>>79341095

>>79341405
what is the torrent?

>>79342103
I see, well, gotta practice reading more then.

I should ask, at what point should I expect this to stop being fun? I've learned all my Hiragana and going to start on Katakana and i'm having a blast so far.

>>79342365
Perhaps grammar.

>>79342365
When you realize how much of a daunting task learning Japanese really is.

So, grammar or kanji, whichever one you do first.

>>79342365
When you reach 500 kanji

>>79342365
I'm still having fun and I've been doing it for 6 years now.

>>79342365

Depends. If you're really motivated you can have fun all the way. Learning kanji is pretty fun, I have a kanji trace order app for my cellphone and whenever I have time I practice stroke order. Being able to read something in Japanese, specifically understanding humor is the most rewarding feeling.

>>79342365
If you do it right never.

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>>79342365
Hiragana and Katakana are very easy.
The fun start when you're touching Kanji.

Either you'll rape it with your superior intelligence, or pegged 24/7.

>>79342910
>>79342879
>>79342563
>>79342686
>>79342552
>>79342424

Thanks for the responses. Kanji I sort of expected, but is grammer really that bad?

>>79343224
Is that every single kanji?

(not including jokugo/okurigana?)

>>79343346
From my experience so far, it's easier than other languages, less conjugation. Just very context based.

I think the most problem you'll have with it is with the fucked up way sentences are structured, and when rules start getting layered upon eachother.

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>>79343346

It's only daunting if you have no plan.

>I'm not spending years doing this shit but I don't have a bunch of time
So do 10 new ones + reviews. This is agreed upon as a reasonable number in this thread, and more is easily possible. You'll be done in half a year. Do the same for grammar and vocab and you'll have tons of achievable goals.

>>79332465
Whoa. 2spooky4me.

I booked a flight to Japan for the month of May, I'm pretty excited. Making my way through Genki, but it's a little too slow from a grammar perspective. I guess the exercises help with remembering vocabulary.

>>79343346
I think grammar is a LOT harder than kanji, but that's mostly because you can fuck around and learn kanji without thinking/any real effort after enough time. Grammar requires your full attention for long periods of time and then requires practice.

>>79343980
>fuck around and learn kanji without thinking/any real effort after enough time
Well I've found that if I'm sort of "aware" of a part of the grammar I'll notice it more and usually I understand it better. Similar with kanji.

>>79343375
It's only the kanji from Heisig.

「大空晴夜」
Is it a name or does this just mean "Clear Night Sky"?

What is your opinions on Minna no Nihongo?

>>79344899
TaeKim>Genki>*

How the fuck Soku (Foot) and Ritsu (stand up) becomes Adachi (one of the Tokyo wards)?
(I don't have Japanese input on this phone.)

>>79345097
nanori (name-only reading)
足　あ + 立 たち = the killer

>>79345259
almost forgot
rendaku たち→だち