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>>/jp/

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kanjidamage.com/kanji/1102-bribe-provide-capital-to-賄
http://jisho.org/kanji/details/賄

As I said I won't be here Thursday to, not this weekend, but the next weekend.

Also I put the Nihonshock cheatsheet mediafire thing in the pastebin. I think I saw several posts where people wanted me to add something to the pastebin or guide so if you have anything you want me to put in there, just post it and I'll take a look at it.

http://kanjitomo.com/
This OCR is fucking mana from heaven.
http://www.mediafire.com/?dckt6ix32l93f35
Complete Nihon Shock.pdf

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anjidamage.com/kanji/1152-clump-塊
http://jisho.org/kanji/details/塊

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kanjidamage.com/kanji/1164-resist-抵
http://jisho.org/kanji/details/抵

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kanjidamage.com/kanji/1233-diameter-径
http://jisho.org/kanji/details/径

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kanjidamage.com/kanji/1246-withdraw-撤
http://jisho.org/kanji/details/撤

>>74734200
Thanks.

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kanjidamage.com/kanji/1259-get-afeared-怯
http://jisho.org/kanji/details/怯

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kanjidamage.com/kanji/1263-international-trading-貿
http://jisho.org/kanji/details/貿

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kanjidamage.com/kanji/1286-starve-飢
http://jisho.org/kanji/details/飢

http://kohada.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/wmotenai/1342411703/
Some practice reading I'm sure you guys will enjoy.

I only know 30~ of these things, but it feels pretty good to be able to pick some of them out of random sentences.

How do you guys remember the differences between stuff like tomeru/yameru and kudasai/onegai?

>>74734820
Are you talking kanji?
Or the politeness?

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>>74734467
>>>
> Anonymous 11/14/12(Wed)19:56 No.74735321
>>>74735187
>I don't think they are a match for us. We'll just pile them up and alternate with our dick and fingers. It's not like they don't want our cock, anyway.

おととい？　おとつい？

>>74736337
さきおとといだ。

>>74735326
I mean politeness and how the words mean very similar, but not completely the same thing.

>>>/jp/sies

>>74734685
those were the days...

couple months you may be reading those sentences.

>>74736769
Hopefully.
It'll be better than "Hey, that's ひ. I wonder what the rest says.."

>try to order some books from Japan
>credit card declined
>decide I need to call my bank
>psych myself up for about 30 minutes
>call
>enter CC#
>enter zipcode
>"That does not match our records, try again"
>try 3 more times
>"You have used up all your attempts, goodbye."

不幸だ。

>>74737174
絶望したか？

>>74737174
最初にもらった時は他の所に住んでましたか？引っ越したことかなんか？

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>>74737419
絶望した。

>>74737703
いつもここに住んでいます。
That was hard to read but I think I understood.

I hate talking on the phone so much. I have to mentally prepare myself before I ever call anyone. I'll probably go to my bank in person and straighten it out.

>>74737703
Oh, I could understand this and this:
>>74738076
I'm quite happy with my Japanese. Yet, I still can't read Yotsuba. That's sad.

I swear, this weirdo times where 大人 you would expect something like たいにん or たいじん or replacing た with だ, but nope that shit is　おとな. The you have shit like 入れる being いれる instead of いりれる, though that's be a bitch to say.

>>74738866
なぜ「いりれる」の方がいい？

私はLang-8を使っていますよ。これで私は３日本人に話しています。　誰にで
も使ってみますか？

>>74739263
>３日本人
日本人三人

>>74739159
>なぜ「いりれる」の方がいい
I don't know man, I'm just used to 入 being いり. Granted this is my first time studying vocab but it's confusing the hell out of me.

>ラジオを聞いている
>女子の司会
>「ねぇえええええええええええええええ」　「いやぁああああああああ
ああああああああああああああああああああああああああああ」　「いぃい
いいいいいいいいます」
おまいら、本当にこれをしないでほしい

>>74738076 Here
>>74737703
I read 最近 not　最初. Now that I see that I understand!

>>74739519
I always have problems knowing whether to read 入るas はいる or いる.

>>74739263
>I'm using Lang-8, you know. With this I'm talking with 3 japaneses. Anyone want to try use it?
Am I right?

>>74739753
>Japaneses
わらう

>>74739753
His Japanese is poor.

>>74739753
That's my mother tongue fucking me up.

>>74739826
Well, as long as it's poor Japanese, I'm able to understand.

>>74739263
Google translate spotted
commencing seppuku

>>74740355
I wrote it out. I'd like to know what was wrong then if it's all right.

今日、勉強しなかった。
僕は悪い少年だ。

僕が罰を与えてください！

>>74740690
Not that guy but I'll try to point out what you did wrong.

>>74740690
>私はLang-8を使っていますよ
You can cut 私は.
>これで私は３日本人に話しています
Stating the exact same topic twice consecutively is hugely redundant. The topic is assumed to be the same till you change it, or (when beginning a new paragraph.)
３日本人, as already stated isn't what you'd say.

>誰にでも使ってみますか？
誰でも is better I'm almost positive.

>>74741233
Oh and the topic wouldn't be you, because you're clearly talking about lang-8 and not yourself.

>>74739263


正しくは「Lang-8を使っていますよ。　３人の日本人と話しています。誰でも
使ってますか？」

>>74739677
It's pretty much always はいる except in specific phrases like 悦に入る. Basically, いる's meaning was hijacked by はいる (whose original kanji is 這入る), and since はいる is now used in its place, the 這 was dropped for simplicity.

>>74740692
気持悪い、バカ少年！

>誰でも使ってますか？
If this is supposed to be "Is anyone else using it?" then you'd want to say:
>他に使っている人いますか

The way it's phrased now makes it sound like you're trying to ask if anyone can use it, but doesn't quite make sense.

>>74740692
>僕が罰を与えてください！
I please punish me.
僕に罰を与えてください

>>74741450
Thank you. Several of the sentences in Core2k have it as いる, so it always confused me.

>>74741308
>話しています
I am talking. You want 話していました

>>74741689
マスター、ありがとう

>>74741750
It does tend to be いる when it's used as a suffix on another verb as opposed to being a standalone, so that could be why you saw a bunch like that.
For example: 寝入る　気に入る　消え入る

>>74741750
ちんこを入れたらちんこが入る。

>>74742065
typed it fast didn't notice that mistake. thanks.

>>74742065
Maybe. Present tense is not incorrect if he was talking about the exchange over long term, and not exactly now. (eg. I'm using lang-8 to talk with 3 Japanese people.)

If you want to talk about something that's past, you would use 話しました。

Anyway, I wanted to point out the last part:

>誰でも使ってますか？

This should be 誰か使ってますか？
Is anyone using it?
or
みんな使ってますか？
Is everyone using it?

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Do you like book people?

>>74744726
>冊人
黒人

>>74744999
黒人は皆殺人ってことか...?

>>74745064
そうといったことない。勘違いしないで下さい。

>>74746320
ごめんね

>>74744468
>If you want to talk about something that's past, you would use 話しました。
Are you implying that 話していました isn't correct?

>誰か
This is somebody.
>みんな使ってますか？
This is all inclusive, so no.

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＊吸う＊

>>74746871
これでも吸え（大麻を出す）

>>74746320
"I haven't said そう before"
そう言わなかった

>>74746946
Or actually, それは言わなかった is probably what you would say.

>>74746858
話していました will mean I had been talking. Not incorrect but a little weird in my opinion.

誰か means somebody, yes. "Does somebody use it?" would be the literal translation.

Why no? The translation I provided is correct. I didn't see OP's real intention, so I suggested another way of saying pretty much the same thing.

>>74746871
これでも吸え（チンコを出す）

Okay, I know I'll inevitably learn this and it's a simple question but curiosity is killer. Do particles always go directly after what they are referring to? Like は、の、に That's all I know

>>74747135
こいつに笑え！

しゃぶると吸うを勘違いするな

これでも植え　（作物を出す）

>>74747427
植えろ＊

>>74747708
はいはい、そうだね、冗談殺しさん

お休みなさい！

>>74747287
Seems that way to me. I'm not that far along either, but farther than you (just fucking around with adjectives now).

Also, since starting to learn moonrunes I've had an incessant Chinami in my head speaking in moon. Of course, no vocab or such that I don't already know, but it's disconcerting hearing her.

Solitude makes people crazy, I think.

>>74750441
よく夢を持ちます。

>>74753378
大爆笑ｗｗｗｗｗｗ
>>>jp

How decent are Japanese people on the internet at typing their language grammatically correct?

I mean in comparison to english text nowadays with "how r u 2day', in place other than 4chan.

>>74754518
lel

ユル♂ユリ　はっじまーるよー

>>74734204
Are those in the resources pastebin? If not, why aren't they there?

>>74755023
Seems they've both been put in.

>>74755023
new/unknown stuff pop out from time to time, if anyone finds a resource that they find/think someone may have use for then tell us in this thread.

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>>74753378
>her face finally got fixed
I... I don't know what to think anymore.

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>japanese 2 has been out for years
>they're still struggling with japanese 1

>>74755777
Go back to >>>/int/ with your retarded memes russian scum.

>>74757048
So edgy.

>>74757105
Stop misusing the word and get out ruskie.

>>74757189
For the record I'm not a ruski and I don't even go in the shithole that /int/ is, stay mad.

>>74757220
>file name in russian
>retarded russian meme face
>i'm not ruskie

>>74757275
Memes aren't exclusive to the nations they come from, stop being retarded.

Why am I even wasting time with you

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今日も勉強モチベーション皆無

>>74758546
もうすべてを終えろよ

>>74758546
その気持ち、分かるよ

気分転換にエロゲーでもやったらどうだ？

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>>74758992
さようなら、好きだった人間の世界

じゃあしりとりしようぜ

自動販売機、次は”き”から始まる言葉

>>74759308
亀頭

>>74759380
逃亡

>>74759443

うるせえ死ね

>>74759380
いきなりヤらしい単語が出たな
さすがＤＪＴ

You are already bumped.

>>74747397
>implying you can't smoke a dick

>>74764786
いたいよ！

>>74764865
経験ある？

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Is it normal to cry when starting kanji?

I've been at it for a week now and feel like I've made no progress at all. There's so much to learn at one time it's overwhelming and nothing I do seems to be effective. It's even slowed my grammar/vocab down to a crawl.

I knew kanji was going to be a bitch, but I don't even feel like I know what I'm doing anymore.

>>74766404
>a week
that's no time at all
learning Japanese isn't easy, you can't half ass it
if you aren't willing to actually work, then quit before you waste more of your time

>>74766404
There are a lot of people who have learnt them and they are not smarter than you. Learn kanji is not a difficult task, but a long one. Just keep going at your own pace.

>>74766404
Learning a language, any language, is not measured in weeks. You measure years.

You should know no one can take off the burden of learning the jouyou kanji set for you. If it's any help, do it in pieces. I learned N5-N3 kanji in a streak and after that I just learned kanji when I happened upon them in a text.

>>74766487
I'm not expecting to magically learn a hundred kanji a day, but a week with no real progress is a bit of a motivation killer.

>>74766563
I'm prepared to be in it for the long haul. It's taking the first step without falling off that I can't figure out.

>>74766404
Getting past the beginning with kanji is the most bothersome part but after you get into it you should have a lot more fun studying, not to mention being able to play/watch/read various stuff. Don't give up.

>>74766742
A week without progress?
一 ichi, hito. means 'one'.
It's a fucking line.
If you remember this tomorrow you've made progress.

Good evening DJT, while reading a LN I've come across a really long sentence that is giving me some trouble. If a Japanese language pro would be so kind as to post a translation, or some hints, I'd be really grateful.

三年前の沖縄防衛戦における完勝とその後国際的発言力向上以来、それ以前
の劣勢な外交動揺を反映した過度の管理重視風潮への反動から、過度に自
治を重視する社会的な傾向がある。

What throws me off is that this sentence is being used while the author is describing a student council meeting. I have some difficulties seeing the connection between politics and a student council meeting.

>>74768691

typoes:

「後国際的発言力向上以来」 should be 「後の国際的発言力の向上以来」

すまんすまん

>>74768691
>I have some difficulties seeing the connection between politics and a student council meeting.
The connection is in the final clause, 過度に自
治 を重視する社会的な傾向がある. It's talking about a move away from 管理 (think bureaucracy and outside control) and toward 自治 (self-governance/self determination, which I presume is linked to the student council) as a result of some sort of battle in Okinawa. I don't know what "battle" it's talking about though.

If this interpretation is completely off base, I blame the lack of context.

>>74769004
なるほど、筋が通る。ありがとうございました。

The context is that the student council has a lot of 「権限」. I presume the author wants to emphasize the origin of said authority. Though, funnily enough, this is the very first sentence in 100+ pages that mentions this war.

まいっか。

I know namasensei does more than grammar, but how much will I be missing if I were to hypothetically only use him? I'm using Tae Kim as well and may throw in Genki. I honestly haven't looked in the doc/pastebin in a while but I don't think it can help me with these two questions; where is a good place to learn vocab and know any good music in jap? I used to listen to some maximum the hormone, but that's all.

>>74770280
>but how much will I be missing if I were to hypothetically only use him?
Nearly everything. He's good at the absolute start, but as you get more into learning the language you realize that not only does he make a fuckload of mistakes, but he also covers just a tiny bit of what you absolutely have to know.

>>74770280
The Core 2000 decks on Anki are a good place to start.

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>In japanese class
>Afraid to speak and get laughed in these threads.

ぼくはなにをしますか？

>>74770394
Mind giving me a heads up on a few of the more critical mistakes? Right now the only thing I've been taking from him is verbs/nouns/adj. along with a view particles.

>>74770420
Alright will do. Thanks.

>は pronounced "wa" as a particle
why didn't they just use わ?

>>74770550
何言ってるの？
千里の道も一歩から

>>74770757

Because they didn't.

>>74770757
the pronunciation changed over time

>>74770757
あんたばか？
way didint da inglish jast wrayt layk dis

>>74770994
I'm not sure what you're trying to show as that would make english even more fucked up. I'm just saying I don't know why they would change an "h" sound to "w"

>>74771227
http://www.mipmip.org/tidbits/pronunciation.shtml

>>74771344
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cuirass?s=t
fucking pronunciations

>>74771227
dis
>>74771344
olso, yor kweschon has olredi bin anserd, for mor diteyld eksplaneyshons, gugel/net is greyt
>>74770891
http://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/5965790.html
http://www.speekit.com/a/japanese/grammar/why-the-particle-wa-is-written-with-the-character-ha

>>74771564
Why is English so fucked with pronunciations? Is it due to the influx of foreign words and poor standardisation?

english is truly the worstest language以上だ

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>>74771714
I don't know man. I have autistic levels of mad at how bad it is once I learned how bad it is. I wonder if the grammar is just as bad.

>>74770280
JIBUN WO

>>74771631
So, is it still that は is "wa" so long as it isn't the start of the word, or just as a particle?

>>74771963
After World War II, the alphabet was updated to reflect the modern pronunciation of words. In other words, writing the letter わ when the pronunciation called for the sound ‘wa.’

However, since the particle は is so commonly used in Japanese and they didn’t want to over-complicate the change in writing-system, they decided not to change the writing of the particle は, even though it is pronounced ‘wa.’

>>74772035
Okay, I'll assume that the particle remains as "wa" while the kana is "ha". I read the link, I was just asking for clarification.

やる気がない。

>>74772232
単純なばかでありたい

>>74772333
いや、純粋な女になりたい

>>74772867
けっして純粋な処女にならない

>>74772973
私は純粋な処女んだけど、まだ女に変身中です

>>74773119
そくまんはもっとふさわしいだとおもう

Has anyone tried TextFugu?

>>74773283
そくまんというなにそれ？

>>74774012
即答のそく
まんこのまん
やりまんみたいの意味,でもちょっとちがう

Is it hard for a foreigner to get any other job than English teaching in Japan? If I have a Master of Science in Engineering degree and if I pass JLPT1, would I be able to get a well-paid job? Or would the companies rather hire some cheap Chinese or Korean?

>>74774356
no, but probably only in international companies, or companies that are already based/hire from your country. we got plenty of those here
we're not howaito piggu though

what first language is the best for pronouncing japanese?

>>74774356
Get a job with a company with offices in Japan. Then ask to get a position overseas

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>>74774557
Japanese

>>74774557
I've heard Finnish is pretty close to Japanese in terms of vowel sounds.

OOI, why does the 言 radical have an antenna when handwritten?

Which style is the most common? I've seen a huge variety of ways of writing it: J4CS, for example, uses a WSW stroke that doesn't join the stroke below, whilst BKB the stroke is SW and joined to the lower one. And printed, of course, the stroke is horizontal.

>>74774557
finnish

>>74774321
なるほど、ありがとう

>>74771714
It's actually because of early standardisation. The Great Vowel Shift took place after printing had resulted in a fairly uniform spelling being widely adopted, so as words changed their pronunciation their writing remained the same. Next time you have a deep and meaningful question, use the fucking Wikipedia.

Memrise is just not working at all right now... I hope they finish migrating the database soon.

>>74774557
Well, I speak Hebrew and it's pretty good.
I would assume German and Yiddish would be good too, but I don't actually speak those languages.

>>74774557
Spanish.

>>74774768
>>74774807
Quick! Find a finn speaking Japanese!

>>74779386
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIUVSD3yqqE#t=3m20s

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>>74774557
English

>>74751016
夢を見る

夢の中へ

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>>74774557
ANY LANGUAGE BECAUSE JAPANESE ONLY HAS FIVE VOWELS AND THEY FUCKING STICK TO IT
A E I O U
THAT'S IT
THAT'S LITERALLY IT
EASY AS SHIT
NOW YOU'RE SPEAKING JAPANESE