>taking obvious trolls seriously

>>72917430
Not all of those are /a/ posters though I've seen some of that here too.
And no, they're not trolling. If they were I'd have far less of a problem with it.

>>72917341 (OP)
You formed half those reactions yourself faggot.

>>72917551
Ahahaha, nope. I didn't make any of that up. That is actually what people are saying about the show.

Kill off the rookie idiot and this would be an awesome first episode.

>>72917617
Gen needed her to introduce various components of the setting. It's pretty clear that he's still a VN author at heart.
One wonders if she'll get herself killed or not.

I wonder if this is based on the computer algorithms that are being used by homeland security to determine possible criminal activity.

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WARNING: THIS IS A MATURE ANIME FOR MATURE ANIME FANS SUCH AS MYSELF

Story: Those guns kick-ass, mah dudes! Wouldn't dey be like so cool in da nex Call o Dudy or sumthing????? Dat bitch be wack tho, why she shoot da gay guy fo? Man dis shit be crazy n shit fugg mang

Characters:
Shinya - He's a homo with a rlly lame haircut
Nobuchika - GAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY
Akane - She's so moe and kawaii n shit
Shuusei - Cool guy, best guy in the show, and all around MAH NIGGA
Yayoi - Lesbo bitch GET OFF DESE NUTS
Shogo - GAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Tomomi - STRAITE UP OG DIS MUTHAFUCKA

Animation: YO DID U SEE DAT DUDE XPLODED AN SHIT YO DAT WAS FUCKING CRAZYYY YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Overalls: This anime has a lot of rape n gore n shit. Great job! Best anime this season! Another winner from Kubo!

>>72917719
Precrime was an idea long before Minority Report. Wouldn't surprise me.

You've got to learn to look through the obvious trolls to get /a/'s real opinion. From most of the threads on day one, I got that a number of people on /a/ thought that it was at the very least, a promising start.

Personally I can't wait for more, when the credits started rolling I thought "shit, is that it? I want more."

Oh man. How good would this show be if they killed off a main character in the first episode?

>>72917750
I really hope you didn't spend the time typing that whole thing out in hopes of trolling like 2 people

>>72917795
Depends how they do it.

It can either be done really well or really badly.

As a sociology student with a strong interest in the field of crime and deviance, the show's potential interests me far more than its execution so far.
It could explore some really neat ideas.
>>72917806
It's from MAL.

>>72917750
. It's not perfect, It's not the best anime ever, It's not the best show this season but it's far from the worst show this season.

It's worth watching

>>72917871
>It's from MAL.
Prove it.

How the guns WOULD make sense: give the wielder an option to paralyze the criminal, even if elimination is an option.

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>>72917871
>It's from MAL.

My sanity prevents me from believing someone was being sincere when they wrote that

>>72917904
That doesn't make sense though. It seems something is deciding all of this for them, so they're just following orders. If the gun is set to kill, then the order is to kill, not paralyze.

>>72917904
The system doesn't want the cops having that much autonomy.

>>72917905
He's lying.

>>72917962
But elimination is supposed to happen if there's absolutely no chance the suspect can be rehabilitated into society, at least according to the old man. Now the suspect's status can change on a whim.

OP, it's the same imbeciles that couldn't even follow what was going on in SSY, you're alright.

>>72917891
Different person. It came up in yesterday's threads too, so even if it isn't from there it's pasta and perfectly fine to laugh at.

>>72918035
It is a flawed system, but I'm pretty sure that's the point. They don't want the Enforcers thinking, just doing as they're told and not asking questions.

Lady cop got in serious trouble for preventing Darks from killing the girl

What I didn't like about the show was some of the polish and a couple scenes with too much cheese.

>The fight sequence in the beginning was poorly done
>The "hurr they know each other more than anyone but they've never met!" is overdone
>"Forget everything you learned in training, rookie"

And maybe a few other parts were just bad. As for things that flat out don't make sense in the context of the world, it was really only the last scene where the gun switches from kill to paralyze for the girl.

What the fuck? I thought KILL MODE meant rehabilitation was impossible, yet, after the girl calmed down, suddenly you could rehabilitate her again. Clearly, the show is setting us up to see that their "perfect human analysis" whatever isn't so perfect, but for something like that to happen, their should have been HUGE reactions out of the characters as it should have been the first time this ever occurred. I mean, this literally goes against what their society expects.

wow this thread is decent so far, so before we can
have a normal thread you need to point out all the
previous shit people said so they have to come up
with new ones?

I would have killed that hostage in an instant. There is nothing worse than people like that.

>>72918035
Apparently, the point is that the system is flawed in a rather stupid way.

>>72918150
What

>>72918143
I thought the fight scene was good, but yes the foreshadowing was a little bit too much. I could have done without it.

I like that last cliche though.

>>72918049

SSY 01 was good, but Psycho-Pass was terrible.

I like how there's almost no hate for Zetsuen no Tempest and K, but when we Psycho Ass gets it's share of negative opinions it's because /A/ CAN'T HANDLE ANYTHING OTHER THAN LIGHTHEARTED SHOWS ABOUT CUTE GIRLS

Ah, rationalizations.

>>72918127
>Lady cop got in serious trouble for preventing Darks from killing the girl
I hope so, though I can see them letting her off with a warning if they're that short on staff.

>>72918209
uh huh

>>72918225
>I like how there's almost no hate for Zetsuen no Tempest and K
Where have you been faggot
>K
>HOMOLUST DROPPED FAGGOT FUJOISHIT
>OMG THEY ARE TOO EDGY AND COOL
>TRYING TOO HARD
>FILTERS EVERYWHERE
>2edgy4me

>>72918245
I'm guessing next episode we'll get a scene with her boss confronting her about it, which will probably flesh things out a bit.

>>72918049
Well, SSY didn't do shit for the sake of being "cool", unlike Psycho-Pass. I mean, the gun design, the character's presentations, the oyaji's speech about forgetting everything she learned... And it didn't have the obnoxious infodumps.

>>72918143
We don't know how those metrics work. Her panic and willingness to do harm to herself and others likely had an impact on her Psychopass level.

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>>72918225
>no hate for K

>>72918225
>almost no hate for Zetsuen no Tempest and K
Holy shit what

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>>72918245
>Darks

>>72918319
lol

Why are Psycho-Pass fans so defensive?

>>72918356
I hate myself for calling him that but I don't remember his name.

>>72918379
Why are Psycho-Pass trolls so terrible? You'd have far more success luring the fans into repetitive conversations about the plot than shitting out the same transparent nonsense for 2 days straight.
>>72918400
Shinya

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Psycho-Pass
More like Psycho-Ass

>>72918437
MORE LIKE PSYCHO-PISS AMIRITE

>why did the girls rating go up and down
The gun promoted the guy to kill status when paralysis didn't work
It promoted her to kill status when she was about to kill an enforcer

It looks like the gun can read the situation a bit too? If you don't sit there and be paralysed, their generous offer of 'treatment' is withdrawn.


>Why was no-one shocked by the rating going back down
The debrief will be in the next ep. I wouldn't expect the enforcers to care, or the rookie to be coherent enough to think about it.

>>72918320

Clearly. The issue is that Kill Mode, as the solution would imply, indicates that the only means of handling the person is to remove them from society permanently. At that point, rehabilitation is meant to be impossible - a lost cause.

YET CLEARLY, this isn't the case. Even though she had gone past the border of "no return," she calmed down and got her Psycho Pass level to below the kill threshold. This should be impossible; the kill threshold should be something nobody can ever return from (hence why such a permanent solution is necessary for those criminals). The fact that someone was able to return from that state should be INCREDIBLY shocking and prompt questions from at least a few of the most free-thinking characters.

But nobody seemed surprised. Maybe they will be in the next episode, but an occurrence like this should have been either incredibly rare or downright never seen before. There should have been some sort of shock.

>>72918374
Whatever you say. When a show takes itself seriously, I expect it not to break my suspension of disbelief for the sake of flashy lights.

>Yeah I graduated top of my class which would have taught me the laws of society and the theory behind with great proficiency
>Yeah I wrote an entire thesis on the subject of Psycho Hazard
>Someone demonstrated Psycho Hazard effect
>AH MA GAWD WHAT IS GOING ON
>NO SHE IS INNOCENT SHE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING
>I CAN'T ACCEPT IT PLZ DONT SHOOT HER
>I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IM DOING DESPITE BEING SO EDUCATED
>I AM INNOCENT AND NAIVE PURELY FOR THE SAKE OF UROBUTCHER RUINING ME LATER ON

Making your typical "I dont want anyone to get hurt" shonen hero into a neon colored dystopia is just stupid. The only thing that came out of it was illustrating how stupid her actions were.

>>72918471
> I wouldn't expect the enforcers to care

Yeah that's the thing, I think at this point it's obvious that the Enforcers are just literally that: enforcing whatever the gun says. I'm sure that if it said Lady Cop was to be killed, they'd do it.

>>72918526
I don't think she's going to be the MC, thankfully.

>>72918400
I don't remember any names for the first half of the season.

So right now I'm calling the cast:
>Lady Cop
>Cigarette
>Glasses
>That Kid
>Ponytail
>Old Guy

>>72918434
>Why are Psycho-Pass trolls so terrible?
This is small time compare to shows like Bakemonogatari, K-on or Madoka

Every anime got trolled on /a/ especially the popular ones.
Deal with it or go back to ANN.

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Are those Soul Gems?

>>72918143
Can you even into dystopia?

>>72918297
In K threads, obviously.

Most of complaints where legit and about the silly filters. "Homolust fujoshit" is just a fact statement, the show is gay as fuck and there's no denying it. And you're kind of making the rest up. It's nowhere near Psycho-Passs levels of hate.

>>72918551
I don't know the names of anyone in K either. I'm pretty bad with names til about halfway through the season

>>72918527

This makes sense. The enforcers are "criminal" types who probably want to kill other people anyway. However, there were police officers there, so some sort of shock that the system wasn't working as predicted would have made more sense.

>>72918554
True, at least there are no Frodos... yet.

>>72917769
I was thinking the same thing as well. Not to mention the theme of treating crime as a public health issue.

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This guy.

I already like this guy

>>72918035
From my understanding they are trying to highlight the lack of certainty the system has which would be the prevailing criminological theory at the time. The current way criminology works right now is a mix of theories which both work and don't work in many situations while mixing and contradicting each other but not being able to prove others absolutely wrong. There were past theories which have been entirely dis-proven but at the time, were thought to be correct (see the theories of Cesare Lombroso).

The system attempts to create one unified theory and defends itself by removing the discretion of officers. It's basically like a dictatorship as the staff can only do what they're told. This also removes the possibility for criticism to be directed at the officers and even the system as there is only one way of doing things making the system absolute without error.

>>72918592
Filters are a plot point to show gang control and no the rest I am not making up, go look at those early threads.

>>72918628
He's either going to force the girl to kill him or do something absolutely horrifying.

Probably the former after the latter.

>>72918628
He seems pretty cool.

I'm betting that he will turn evil or die later on though.

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>>72918551
>That Kid
>Not Genki-kun.

>>72918609
>Not to mention the theme of treating crime as a public health issue.
Psycho-Pass confirmed for deconstruction of the welfare state.

>>72918669
I'm guessing twist in the middle where he's actually the bad guy.

If that happens I'm still going to like it

honestly it was just boring. GitS was ten times more interesting in the first episode and had way more atmosphere and interesting characters right off the bat.

this is garbage of the year if anything

>>72918591
Dystopias don't have to be stupid.

>>72918518
Theory vs. practice.

>>72918707
My criteria for good show isn't "has to be as good as GiTS by episode one", so whatever.

>>72918689
Don't.

>>72918686
Duly noted.

Also is this one cour or two cour?

>>72918735
your standards are too low anon

>>72917551
He did not. Stupid shit like that has been all over the threads.

>>72918751
22 episodes

>>72918751
Two according to my sources.

So I'm the only that have a problem with the BAD animation quality and direction ? Or no one notice such things anymore

>>72918725
We've gone over this dozens of times already. You don't put theoricians on the frontline, at least not without giving them some training. Not even North Korea does that. Dystopian setting doesn't mean everybody is suddenly fucking stupid.

>>72917341 (OP)
>I kind of wonder how you people deal with American movies and other Western works that are similar to this.
And it's not a coincidence that all those movies are shit?

>>72918595
Perhaps they aren't surprised because the show specifically tells us that people's levels being variable is common knowledge. Only one person was pointing a gun at her when she was marked as killable, and even that is a little muddy because we don't actually know what he told Rookie-chan. It could well have been that she'd need to shoot him to stop things.

>>72918707
Did you really expect an anime that's directed by a director who has never worked on any anime before to be as good as GitS?

Seriously?

>>72918816
No problem with the animation. Direction is bland and uninspired.

>>72918816
>So I'm the only that have a problem with the BAD animation quality and direction ?

Probably, yeah.
Most PP watcher don't even care about the animation quality.

>>72918485
The problem you seem to have is you believe what the old Enforcer said at face value. I would be surprised if what he stated wasn't anything more than state propaganda, and not "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."

>>72918816
Yup, you're the only smart one in the world

>>72918518

The old guy told her to forget everything she learned.

>>72918872
Keep samefagging

>>72918887
Oh, you.

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>>72917341 (OP)

>I kind of wonder how you people deal with American movies and other Western works that are similar to this. The sheer naivete exposed here is really sad.

Alot of us do our best to avoid them... Hence we wach anime instead. You complete dip-ass.

>>72918845
What the fuck are you talking about ? The director is a regular IG key animator, he was episode director on several IG anime and he directed Blood-C The Last Dark.

>>72918863
Ah, so I'm crazy, Thanks.

>>72918893
I will.

>>72918735
Well, you just have shit tastes

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>>72918908
>dip-ass

>>72918938
*not

>>72918938
The chief director.

>>72918722
But it's not stupid. The cops weren't acting surprised because I'm sure they've seen it happen many times before. The fact that this anon thinks otherwise implies this is his first dystopia.

>>72919002
forgot a word
>>72918966

>>72919002
>Are you trolling?

Did you read his post? Of course he is. He could have presented his opinion in any way, but instead he implies that only idiots could have liked it and that he's the only smart one simply because he didn't like it.

That's either trolling or stupidity

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>>72918908

Only stupid moeshit eaters would hate this brilliant show.

People who're trolling this show are Chuunifags and Hidamarifags.

>>72918826
They said that they were low on man power. They put a theorician on the front line because they had to not because they thought it was a good idea.

>>72919057
Why, hello IRC.

>>72919057
Do people actually fall for this?

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>>72919057

Chuuni love this show man. This is as Chuuni as it gets

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>>72919029
>Official T-Shirt
MC's Psycho-Pass will be over 300, calling it now.

>>72919093
Chuunifags loves K and Roboticshit.

>>72918471
Why are you so stupid?

There's nothing to be shocked about. It measured her as a danger to people at that moment, and she was as you saw with the lighter. Police often make snap judgments like that and gun people down that could otherwise be okay only minutes later but the judgement is made regardless.

Nothing needed to be explained. Goddamn.

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>>72919108
my sides

This is 100% original story do not steal right?

I don't wanna have to worry about spoilers.

Two things I found quite interesting:

>part of the main chicks reaction I think can be attributed to the thesis the wrote on teens not being able to handle stress might have lead her to feel more sympathy to those who were not directly criminals but influenced anyway.

The second thing I found interesting was the old mans statement about why they became enforcers. Naturally he was cut off but I would guess each of the 4 people working for them are in a situation where they were normal people who had some stress and that set their crazy number over allowed levels so they got arrested and forced into service, but thats just my guess. (i.e. some crazy chopped off the old dudes hand and now the system thinks he is too batshit to have a normal life.)

>>72919108
But she already pointed the gun at him.

>>72919108
>IT'S OVER THREE HUNDREEEEEED
>WHAT, THREE HUNDRED?

>>72919076
>They said that they were low on man power.
Which is, in my opinion, fucking stupid when this system is basically the one thing keeping the population in check. And it's not as if they don't have budget. Fancy gun-containers, special wagons, and they can't spare anybody to train her the littlest bit or hire some people? Well, I hope there is justification down the line, because right now, it just seem contrived writing to allow to infodump for the viewer's benefit.

>>72919076
This raises a question on how an oppressive society could ever run short of law enforcement.

Maybe the cafeteria's guacamole was spoilt.

>>72919187
Maybe she coudn't listen to the number because she screamed really loudly.

>>72919182
>This is 100% original story do not steal right?
Yes, it is.

>>72919142
>Why are you so stupid?

It's his first non-moe anime.

>>72919182
My guess about the enforcers:

Completely normal people who had a skill-set that the police wanted, so they artificially set their Psycho-pass to make them look like criminals. Then they forced them to be Enforcers

>>72919226
>This raises a question on how an oppressive society could ever run short of law enforcement.
Yep, this.

>>72919210
>Which is, in my opinion, fucking stupid when this system is basically the one thing keeping the population in check

They aren't usually needed because of drones, remember? Them being understaffed is more than realistic. Hell, real police are understaffed everywhere and we don't even have drones.

>>72919247
Will you stop that already? And FeMC is plenty moe.

>>72919266
No...drones...DRONES, remember?

>>72919290
>And FeMC is plenty moe

Are you for real, nigger?

>>72919320
moer than moe

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What's her Psycho Pass ?
Pure black. Calling it now.
She's also the moest

>>72919320
Hey some people like retards, like Yui for example.

>>72919210
Maybe the cops keep quitting because they don't like the system or something?

>>72919287
Real police/military isn't understaffed in dictatures.

>>72919320
She is.

>>72919210
You're making assumptions about the world. That is your problem, not the show's.

>>72919376
>darks ex

my sides

>>72917341 (OP)
>That rape victim's Psycho-Pass returning to Paralyze levels is fucking stupid! Judgments made by computers have to be perfect! It's not like the show is trying to question our dependence on machines to make decisions or anything!

I wouldn't have a problem with this if they didn't specifically state that the lethal firing mode on the guns only activates once they reach a point where they can't be helped by therapy or any other means.

>>72919344
>>72919329
Fucking moefags ruing the thread.
take your waifuism bullshit else where.

Liking it so far, and I think that the "threat" system works, in the sense that the world is probably over populated so they just say fuck that and kill more people than necessary.

>>72919320
Well, she is moe, a bit like a frightned cute animal.

>>72919378
It's not really a dictatorship...it's presented as the normal evolution of law.

>>72919257
That seems like a reasonable alternative too.

Also: The opening scene had the edgy guy try to shoot the one chainsaw guy, but the gun did not work. After he threw him out the window, he was able to shoot him, but only after damaging the helmet.

Do you guys think the helmet allowed for psycho regulation or that the window acted as some sort of barrier where the system had no effect?

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>>72919411

>>72919344
She seems like one of the good guys but I guess we don't know.

I want to fuck her regardless.

>>72919411
>>>/IRC/

>>72919394
Well, I hope they bring some solid worldbuilding behind this, because for now, I'm fairly non-plussed.

>not implanting your whole population with Hue-detection chips

>>72919410
Did you actually watch the show?

How can you be this stupid?

Goddamn!

>>72919410
Do we know if that is an accurate translation?

Any moon people who can confirm?

>>72919378
This isn't actually a rule. Often one or the other is well maintained and that's the one that serves the additional role of protecting the individuals in power. The leftover force tends to languish since all the money is being spent on the one guarding the bosses. See Libya for a modern example of unbalanced resourcing.

>>72919477
Do explain.

>>72919516
Pay attention to the show, fucktard.

>>72917341 (OP)
I liked it. But parts of it were hilarious.

>>72919477
Did you?

>>72919474
Yes, I'm sure there will be. Perhaps with more wonderful infodumps!

>>72919516

Power of friendship.

>>72919539
Do explain.

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>>72919580
>Perhaps with more wonderful infodumps!
Woohoo.

>>72919595
*sigh*
What do you have your brain for?

>>72919647
Nice explanation

>>72919595
see

>>72919142

>>72919631
I know you can't wait for the debriefing in the next episode.

>>72919647
>*sigh*
Why am I not surprised.

But please, do explain where it is said that after all, no, >the lethal firing mode on the guns only activates once they reach a point where they can't be helped by therapy or any other means.

>>72919647
>*actions*
>can only insult people like a child instead of defending their argument with facts

Please return from whence you came

>>72919631
>He doesn't like info dumps
Who don't you go back to your nurutu fourms, son? All your friends are wondering where xXxSASUKEMASTERxXx went.

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>>72919693
Debriefing are always my favorite parts. I sure hope they include some flashbacks of her lectures too.

>>72918485

I think the kill-level is simply to a response to her becoming potentially dangerous to the Enforcers. The thing that seemed to regulate the gun wasn't her actual psycho-level, but rather the fact that she was threatening to light the fuel.

tl;dr The gun allows Enforcers to resort to lethal force if their target got a dangerous weapon. Jii-sans ramble was simply a ramble meant to exposition the setting, not a tech explanation..

>>72919647
>¨sigh*
ahahaha get out

>>72919687
But it was said that once the gun reaches lethal firing mode, the person the gun is aimed at is at the point where nothing can help them change.

But for some reason it kept changing to paralyze mode even though it was stated that it was impossible for that person to change.

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What's Yazan's psycho pass /a/?

>>72919793
And suddenly the rest of the show is about Hanazawa's wacky police academy hi-jinks.

>>72919810
>>72919721
>>72919717
What the fuck is wrong with your moefags?

That's it.
I'm out of here.

I'm so sick of retards who can't even pay attention to the episode like you faggots.

>>72918485

I think the kill-level is simply to a response to her becoming potentially dangerous to the Enforcers. The thing that seemed to regulate the gun wasn't her actual psycho-level, but rather the fact that she was threatening to light the fuel.

tl;dr The gun allows Enforcers to resort to lethal force if their target got a dangerous weapon. Jii-sans ramble was simply a ramble meant to exposition the setting, not a tech explanation.

"Beyond theraphy. Unwanted person. Etc" was rather a philosophical statement on how the State views the use of lethal violence.

>>72919827
> the person the gun is aimed at is at the point where nothing can help them change.
That likely means "Unable to be helped via rehabilitation".
That threshold is likely caused by the fear of rehabilitation, in this instance the fear of it was removed, meaning rehabilitation would work.

>>72919805
It was only stated in the anime after the gun changed to lethal mode that it did so because he was no longer useful to the world and couldn't be helped.

Probably will be resolved with next episodes infodumps.

>>72919880
lol cya

>>72919880
>gets criticized because of being a faggot
>immediately assumes we're moefags
I like Psichopass but that doesn't make you less of an idiot onii-chan

>>72919892
This makes sense.

>>72919880
pfffft

>>72919717
see >>72918874
You can't take information presented by an authoritarian government at face value.

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>>72919903
>next episodes infodumps
Formula of the show: present something stupid and contradictory, solve it via infodumps, rinse & repeat.

I'm joking, but I seriously hope it won't be that way.

>>72919892
Or it measures whether they intend to commit a crime before rehab can take effect. If they're about to do something like the woman with the lighter, obviously they're going to commit whatever act they were thinking of before they can be bundled off into therapy and for the purposes of the reading are 'un-fixable'. But I'm sure it will be clarified later.

Oh boy.
This thread seems to have a bad case of the frodo.

A person is marked for death once rehabilitation no longer will work on them. The rehabilitation likely requires a certain level of trust in the rehabilitation method.

The girl in this case was scared into believing that rehabilitation would be hell, instead of "helping" her, but femMC convinced her that it would not be a bad thing, removing her fear of rehabilitation. Which means she would then be able to be rehabilitated.

Anyway, I explain shit to you frodo's enough in SAO threads, I don't need to do that in these as well.

>>72919478
It's probably accurate, but it didn't mean to imply PERMANENTLY. Just momentarily they were not going to be "helped" essentially. In other words.

-Auto-assumption from profile check that negotiations will LIKELY fail. Since this is based on statistics it could just mean that whoever tries to help may be injured or worse.
-Every second they are active they could be killing someone.

As you saw, the paralyzer function does not guarantee a take down. Though I feel they presented that incredibly poorly...he could have just shot him again with it.

>It's basically like a dictatorship as the staff can only do what they're told.

Dictatorship by computer...

Anyway, the anime does present itself another theme: Imperfection of technology. Even the most highly advanced computers can be subject to imperfections of someway.

>>72920039
>A person is marked for death once rehabilitation no longer will work on them. The rehabilitation likely requires a certain level of trust in the rehabilitation method.
Your explanation isn't in the show though.

>>72920071
>Dictatorship by computer
Well it tecnically is. This reminds me of Appleseed.

>>72920091
>why didn't the show explain literally everything about everything in the first episode
Don't start.

>>72920039
That's your theory, not an explanation.

>>72920091
It doesn't take a genius to connect the dots, seriously

>>72920091
What?
The first half of that quoted part certainly is, the second half is a logical conclusion that you can reach by simply fucking paying attention

Just because it isn't spelled out to you does not mean it doesn't exist.

Christ, I was hoping you frodo idiots would at least stick to SAO so I don't need to see you shitposting in other threads.

>>72920118
Your explanation isn't in the show, there is no source material, that means you pulled it out of your ass. It's just your hypothesis, not a definite answer.

I thought it was terrible and now have dropped everything this season. Only anime I am watching is Space Bros.

>>72920141
Uh-huh. You didn't answer his question

>>72920039
>removing her fear of rehabilitation
They should have people to do that so they don't have to kill every scared citizen.

>>72920154
I didn't make the post. Stop being a faggot who suddenly has a problem with speculah.

>>72920145
>Just because it isn't spelled out to you does not mean it doesn't exist.
Just because you say it exists doesn't mean it does nor is it accurate

>>72920154
Then why the fuck are we having this discussion?
You clearly won't accept anything that isn't spelled out in babby words in the show itself, so why even bother?

>>72920145
>the second half is a logical hypothesis
ftfy

And logically, you don't put body on the streets that don't know how to use a fucking gun. Not even in Liberia. Not even in wars with child soldiers.

>>72920145
>The first half of that quoted part certainly is
No it's not
> the second half is a logical conclusion that you can reach by simply fucking paying attention
Also wrong

>>72920194
He didn't present it as speculation but as fact. Arrogantly so, too.

>>72920224
>bodies*

>>72920192
The implication is that this is a situation that doesn't come up very often. They said at the start of the show that this was an unpleasant case for them.
I'm sure it will just be coincidence that all future cases will also be unusual.
>>72920245
Oh no, not someone being arrogant in a thread rife with blatant shitposters!

>>72920192
I think the entire point of the show will be focusing on how a system like what is show in the show is completely flawed.


>>72920228
>No it's not
Stopped reading
You are a fucking moron, HALF OF THIS EPISODE focused on that.

>>72920145
I thought you left already.

>>72920114

The guy did work on Phantom and a number of cyberpunk stuff.

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I love it when something get's loads of attention.

These threads are so fun. Mad and all.

>>72920145

Your opinion=/=truth. You are speculating, which is fine, but don't get mad when people don't believe you. That's childish.

>>72920059
>A person is marked for death once rehabilitation no longer will work on them. The rehabilitation likely requires a certain level of trust in the rehabilitation method.
They'd rather kill the suspect straight away without even trying rehab?

Psycho-Pass confirmed for deconstruction of American justice system.

>>72920192
You think they don't have a reason to arbitrarily kill citizens? Why do you think they'd go out of their way to protect them if they can be replaced with another who won't flip their shit?

>>72920275
>Oh no, not someone being arrogant in a thread rife with blatant shitposters!
There aren't so many shitposters. Remember, just because somebody is criticizing the show doesn't mean he is a shitposter.

>>72920145
Looks like people who are defending this show are the same fags that like SAO.

>>72920308
>deconstruction
Stop that.

>>72920308
More like the Japanese justice system, which this reads as more of a perversion of with its focus on police manufacturing guilt and the justice system being a rubber stamp.

>>72920039
You just misunderstand the frodos.

> A person is marked for death once rehabilitation no longer will work on them

That can't be literally true. If I interpret your words literally, it implies that once someone is marked for death then there can be _nothing_ that can ever make rehabilitation possible. This means that once a person is marked for death, it doesn't make sense for them to be unmarked.

But since she was unmarked, it is not literally true that "rehabilitation is impossible". This inevitably means that the gun marks people for death even though rehabilitation may be possible in the future.

>>72920347
You would be correct, shitposter-san

>>72920347
Not in my case; fucking hated SAO.

>>72920327
Granted this thread is better than some of the earlier ones, but don't act like there isn't tons of the same idiocy.

>>72920347
>Samefag replying to himself

>>72920380
Pretty much this, I dropped it in 1 ep. Liking the concept of Psycho Pass so far though

>>72920361
That might actually make more sense. The Japanese judicial system looks fucking horrible from an outsider's PoV.

>>72920375
Did you even read my post?
They make no external efforts outside of the rehabilitation system to "fix" people.
That means once rehabilitation no longer works on that person, the system sees them as "unsaveable" .

In this case, external methods WERE used (And are incredibly unusual, as we have seen), and that moved her back into the "Rehabilitation can fix this" zone.

>>72920313

Well, liberal killing just means the city's judicial system is very liberal with the death sentence. Judging from the Enforcers' reaction it seems like killing is a pretty normal way of dealing with troublesome criminals.

It should be noted though that in both cases the targets were armed (knife, artson) and threatening an Enforcer (Tryhard-guy, Spike), so most likely the system allows Enforcers to kill in self-defense.

The lethal ammunition was removed in conjuncture with the woman dropping her weapon.

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People have different feelings and opinions about this show and it's staff, Are you that autistic that it bothers you?
People like you OP are a joke.

>>72920039
>A person is marked for death once rehabilitation no longer will work on them.
This wasn't actually said, the old guy said he was a person no longer needed in this world, determined by sibyl, and then said the guy drove himself into a corner and nothing, including therapy will work on him anymore. That his judgement was rehabilitation for him would no longer work.

The reason it went into lethal mode for the girl was because Kogami, stepped in the fucking gasoline. He did it on purpose so sibyl would detect her as putting his life in danger and he would be able to kill her. Fucking guy did it on purpose, just so he could kill her.

>>72920440
> In this case, external methods WERE used (And are incredibly unusual, as we have seen), and that moved her back into the "Rehabilitation can fix this" zone.

The point of my post is this system does not take into account these external methods. The fact that it doesn't take into account these external methods implies that it allows people to die, even though rehabilitation is possible.

>>72920440

No we aren't reading your posts anymore, because they are shit and filled with your shitty ego and opnions rather than actual arguments.

Get over yourself.

>>72920114
Ironically, Appleseed's primary setting is a democracy. The countries computer is just there for city management and communications.

>>72920507
People like you are cancer killing anime.
Go back to your kyoanus moeshit.

>>72920545
Yeah, I know. I mean giving administration powers to a computer and allowing it to decide by itself.

>>72920523
>even though rehabilitation is possible.
Again, you're looking at it as though the government and Sibyl are benevolent entities, which is not necessarily the case in a fucking DYSTOPIAN society.

>>72920518
> This wasn't actually said, the old guy said he was a person no longer needed in this world

It is implied if you take the statement
"A person is marked for death once rehabilitation will no longer work on them".

If rehabilitation becomes possible in the future, then in a sense it was always possible. Just follow the steps that make it possible in the future.

The problem with the system is that it doesn't take into account such factors and allows people to die even though they could possibly be saved.

>>72920440
Some of this discussion is also based on downplaying elements of the episode. While it was stated that kill mode was some kind of final judgement on a person, we don't know how reliable the person saying that is or if he was providing the full truth. The later events in the episode appear to directly contradict this idea, and it's obvious enough that we're probably supposed to see that. Further, there was still only ever one gun pointed at the woman when she had the lighter, and Two Days from Retirement also said that they tried to use the paralysis shot to stop situations escalating in the first place. There's also the matter that, if Shinya's training is anything like a modern cop's, he probably wasn't supposed to lower his weapon against a 'lethal' threat. They also have the other class of cops who can force them to stand down if necessary.

>>72920524
>I cannot bother trying to tell you why you are wrong, so ill just shit post instead

>>72920518
>This wasn't actually said,
But it was heavily implied.
Either way, at this point we are simply stating different theories on why what is happening is happening, and getting into arguments over that is fucking stupid.

>>72920523
>even though rehabilitation is possible
The system doesn't understand or consider shit like what happened on this episode. That is likely to be a major plot point / motivation for the show.

>>72920701

That just means the system is callous. Which sounds appropriate considering the setting is a dystopia.

>>72920697
I'm just stating facts. The machine in the end concluded that it was possible to save her. The machine also concluded that it was reasonable to kill her. Therefore there exists people that can still be saved that the machine decides should be killed.

I'm not making a moral claim, so I'm can't be looking at it through benevolent eyes. This is merely a factual claim. The machine decides people should die even though they can be saved. That is all.

>>72920518
Or the gun doesn't care what Kogami was doing and classifies the woman's potential suicide as a form of murder or general possession of a deadly weapon. The woman would be far more likely to die than anybody else there, since gasoline pools and open drums don't actually explode when you light them.

>>72918628
He's an old dude in a young and mainly homolust cast. He'll either turn villain or die saving the girl cop.

>>72920701
It was only being judged on the rapist though. Which from what was said, therapy wouldn't have worked for him. The girl was a different matter, and was never stated therapy wouldn't work on her, she was only being targeted since she was putting Kogami's life at risk. For what has been said once it has been judge rehabilitation is not possible, we have to take that as fact right now, since nothing else proves otherwise from what we have seen.

>>72920524
>we aren't reading your posts anymore

As expected from a braindead retard like you.

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The beginning of the episode was like watching Spike and Vicious all over again.
I liked the first episode, the old mas was/is the best, just look how awesome he looks. I hope it gets a more complicated story in the next episodes.

>>72920870
> The girl was a different matter, and was never stated therapy wouldn't work on her,

It is stated that a person is only marked for death when therapy will no longer work.

>>72920812
>This is merely a factual claim. The machine decides people should die even though they can be saved. That is all.
When it made the decision to kill her, the system determined that she was unsavable.

Then external factors kicked in (The actions of the MC), which pushed her mental state into something the system believes it can fix.

Another explanation that is being said here is that it was because that one faggot was "in danger" of being harmed by her, so it allowed them to kill her. The only problem I find with this explanation is that it doesn't do the same thing when they are harming (Or in this case, raping) a person who isn't law enforcement.

There is one thing I want to say.
Seems like there are a lot of people who find cool to see that the director said "fuck moe".

But moe doesn't even sell anymore, a show aimed at moefags will sell 10k at the highest possible, and even then it's pretty rare.
Now the buying base has been completely overtaken by WOMEN.
If you want to sell you have to attract fujoshi and other women otaku.

Even K-ON sold a lot because it has a huge female fanbase (it even aired on Disney Channel), heck even Madoka does.
See Chuuni koi that doesn't get much preorder? Because it doesn't try to attract women, it's a pure moe show.

And PP is definitely aimed at women, just look at the character designer or the characters themselves.
So the director took no risk, if anything this statement will just attract the shallow SO DARK AND EDGY base too

>implying state of your psyche is static

Yeah, it's not like people go through phases of depression, happiness, anger, etc.

>>72920946
*old man

>>72920976
No, it wasn't. You are taking what applied to one person, and what was judged for one person and applying it to everyone in different circumstances.

>>72921042
That's exactly how the show works.

Be in college and leave /a/
Fall break so I decide to check up on it
People hating Psycho-Pass which is hands down the best show of the year. Season easily.
Worst part is im actually surprised. Ive been gone too long.
Whats the matter /a/. Can't enjoy nice things. If any of you faggots actually studied philosophy and read Plato's republic you'd know the difference between deep and DEEP.

>>72920946

From the first episode alone I found the old guy to be my favourite character as well so far.

>>72920976
>only

They never said this, they only said that the system considered him too far gone.

>>72920946
It's like I'm on MAL

>>72920999
>So the director took no risk

>Urobuchi said Motohiro protects him from noitamina producer's demands to add appealing elements for female audience
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=503103

Try again, shitposter-kun.