You were born too early.
>>70390292fuck you OP
>implying humans won't fuck each other to death with greed and wars long before we ever colonize Mars
>>70390292Terraforming Mars is not possible, considering the planet's size. The gravity is not strong enough to trap an adecuate atmosphere.
>>70390458We've had worse.
>>70390499We can smash asterioids into it to increase its mass.
>>70390499>didn't read the manga
>>70390567I like how you think.
>>70390567It's far more plausible to colonize the Venus' sky: there's already a suitable atmosphere there.
>Born too early NO, WE'RE NOT.http://mars-one.com/en/
>>70390613yeah, we just have to deal with the acid clouds and reduce the temperature
>>70390499Nope. Titan has an atmosphere with higher pressure than Earth's, and it's only a little bigger than the moon. It's only a matter of adding more air somehow.
>21xx>Living on fucking MARS>Still travel using boats
I can get free music, movies, and anime from the internet.I'm a white male in a time where that still gets me a little bit of preferential treatment.I think I was born at an okay time.
>>70390359>>70390359>>70390359All my rage.
>>70390690>adding more air>air
>>70390635
>>70390292I'd rather live in the Soaring Cake Girl universe, but yeah, I was born too early.
>>70390721>Not being born as a patrician in Rome.>Buy loli harem and watch them being raped by baboons.>148 BC
Too late to explore the seas, too early to explore the universe, just in time to explore global retardation.
I'm more annoyed thinking that the future will probably be female only, since the Y chromosome is in its way to extintion. I will never see this lesbian paradise.
>>70390801>baboons>not raping them yourself
>>70390690I don't know how plausible it is, but if we crashed a few Ice Comets into Mars around the equator to get a little more water vapor in the air, at least temporarily, we might be able to introduce some algaes to do that.Or we could just pump a shitload of carbon dioxide onto Mars, enough to warm it up and melt some ice... THEN introduce the algae and simple plants.Of course THAT was will take thousands of years.
>>70390803>the Y chromosome is in its way to extintionget a load of this faggot
>terraforming MarsEnjoy wasting your time. It's tectonic activity to generate a magnetosphere stopped a long time ago to deflect solar radiation. Enjoy being fried to death.
>>70390801>loli>not shota
>special OVA of Akari finding Curiosity and using new Aqua technology to learn about humans from the early 2000s
>>70390803This.No men. Frilly clothes everywhere.
>>70390856You can fix that by adding right things into the atmosphere.
>>70390845I've got some bad news for you.
>>70390803>the Y chromosome is in its way to extintionPost citation pls
>>70390871>special OVA of Akari traveling through time again and greeting the rovers as they landed
>>70390857>>70390857>Wanting too see boys getting raped instead of girls.
>>70390897>Some random feminazi forumNot even going to read.
>>70390917I don't think she'd live.
>>70390803>world without dicksHow horrible.
>>70390897cool source brah
>>70390897
>>70390897>using a forum post as evidence0/10, see me after class
>>70390499I see this exact same incorrect claim in every single Mars thread. I wonder who posts them.
>Now, I'm not a scientist but...This what you sound like on both sides of the argument.
;_;7
>>703909521. Cait Sith majicksor2. She buys a spacesuit from an antiques store for some reason
>>70390897This bitch needs to die. The patriarch system exist for a reason.
>That feel when you were expecting an aria thread
>>70390897Wonder how she plans on keeping the population going.
>>70391052That reason being 1% of the population controlling everybody else. Patriarchy is shit. It's a good thing it's dying. Ancient egalitarian civilizations had much higher living standards than early XXth century Europe.
>>70390897>that post>doesn't seem to realize she is pointing out stuff as "facts" when those "facts" have been disproven over a century ago by actual scientific testing and analysis.ISHIGGYDIGGY
>>70391142HURRRRRRBack to the kitchen, bitch.
>>7039102510/10 would read again.
>>70390706Nobody uses Undines just to get around, they're just a tourist service. Kind of silly that Undines and Sylphs (tour guides and mailmen) are put in the same category as Gnomes and Salamanders (gravity and weather controllers), though.
>>70391142https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlvMAS_20K4
>>70390897>radfemspeak.net/aboutus.html>As we are not a commercial business, or a registered organisation etc - we were not able to use the .Com ending. Being about 'networking' - (and not particularly well "organised") - we thought the .Net domain was the most appropriate. >2012>Thinking that ICANN, and anyone on the internet, cares about what you think, or even adheres to it, about your domain extension
>>70391152Awesome.
I really doubt turning this into a habitable place is worth the effort. And Mars's gravity is unhealthy for humans.
Italian is always winner.Why?
>>70391406Any non-Earth gravity is unhealthy, moron. It's adapting to it that matters.What would happen is, I remember hearing somewhere, we get taller.
>>70390690>Titan has an atmosphere with higher pressure than Earth'sTitan is also very cold and very far away from the Sun and it's protected from atmosphere being broken down by solar wind since it sits in the big-ass magnetosphere of Jupiter.Mars frequently has >0°C temperature, and has absolutely no magnetosphere to speak off.
>>70391406read>>70390567
>>70390897The best part of the whole thing is the source on that quote at the end.
>>70391471Actually Titan is Saturn moon and the problem is gravity which is less than Earth's.
>>70391462Which is why only planets with gravity around 1g should be colonized. Other answer are cities with artificial gravity. Do you even realize how many diseases and deformities humans born in Mars's gravity would develop? Just imagine what would happen to their bones.
meh, we should just set jupiter off and turn it into a weak sun
>>70390845Basically it is. But that process has been going on for BILLIONS of years and the likelihood that other genetic material will act as replacement is 99.9%. We're safe. Don't worry.
>>70391471That wasn't the point though. The point was that a smaller mass can still hold a substantial atmosphere.
>You will never eat at a Baked Potato standI was born too soon ;_;
>>70391025>>70391152>>70391394These are fucking great. Are there more?
>>70391665Probably because it's much further away from the sun and is protected by Saturn's huge-ass magentosphere so it doesn't have to worry about the solar wind blowing it away.
>>70391535>SaturnYeah, I had a brain fart. Still, even colder and far away. And Titan has twice less gravity than Mars. The problem isn't gravity (well, it is for humans, since we're actually pretty dependant on 1g for development, but let's not go that way).
>>70391634Auto domestication of humanity is a fact. Males are becoming weaker, less aggressive and in general less "manly" when there are no wars. Western civilization is going that route for generations now. Which is not really a bad thing. Just look at Bonobo. Our society is getting closer and closer to them.
>>70391814Dude. The process really is taking billions of years. The Y chromosome is old as fuck. Don't worry, the only thing that's changing our attitudes so wildly is culture, and it can revert. We still do evolve, but the newest gene is 10,000 years old.
>>70391025Humanity fuck yeah.jpg
>>70391633You'll need about 80 more Jupiters if you want to do that.
>>70391633
You can do all of what you're talking about here to terraform mars, these are all ideas already being proposed by expert.The problem is still the planet's size being too small. You can terrafrom it and create an atmosphere. It won't last forever though and eventually mars would die again and you'd have do re do the terraforming process.
Less shitty debatan, more Arian and science fictionan.
>>70391394alien_sweating_profusely.jpg
>>70390650the acid clouds are only in one small part of the planetthink simba and his dad"those lands are bad don't go there simba"
>>70391908>The problem is still the planet's size being too small. You can terrafrom it and create an atmosphere.It's really a problem of magnetosphere.
HEY GUYS! LISTEN! I GOT THE GREATEST IDEA!SERIOUSLY LISTEN!You know how the atmosphere around Mars would vanish because it has nothing to protect it from escaping? Why don't we surround Mars in glass and prevent the atmosphere from escaping?
>>70391988>all those glassblowing jobsPROFIT
>>70391907>>70391988Am I in a troll physics thread or something?
>>70391988That idea's so insane it might just work.
>>70391747I think I have that comic where there's a man who turned into an abomination after some bug creature drag him down a hellhole then put him in a regenerating black liquid. I don't know what I named it, though
>>70390650No, the idea is to live under domes. At around 1 Bar of pressure, the temperature is Earth-like.
>>70391976well that's what I'm saying. Eventually the atmosphere would be blown away by cosmic wind.
>>70391913>condomNope. I'll cum inside and make her pregnant.
>>70391587Total Recall type shit?
We just need to develop gravity crystals and bury them deep undergroundOh and as far as heat is concerned, we'll just levitate a huge island above the surfaceGod damnit this is never going to happen.
Guys, I'm a retard.What's magnetosphere, and how is it important?
>>70391875>billionsI think you mean millions
>Terraformin Mars when it's easier to terraform Earth.
>>70391942But Venus is all volcanoes and other such shit
>>70392202Fine, hundreds of millions.
>>70392172tl;drEarth magnetic field, protects us from the sun.
>>70392081Oh Anon, you card.
>>70392172Fucking magnets
>>70392283>Implying I'm an ugly fatass.fuck you
>>70392246Actually, the >>70392172>A magnetosphere is formed when a stream of charged particles, such as the solar wind, interacts with and is deflected by the magnetic field of a planet or similar body.It protects us (and our atmosphere) from the very charged particles coming from the Sun.
>>70392313Arias will accept you no matter what you look like.
>>70391931>>70391394
>>70392172A magnetosphere is what protects us from solar winds, so that we not only not fry to death, but also make sure our atmosphere stays intact while allowing some solar radiation to penetrate. The current theory is that Mars lost all its water because it lost its magnetosphere. Because it lost it, more solar radiation was able to enter, and thus evaporate the water. And since there is no atmosphere to keep the water cycle intact, all that water just went into space.tl;dr--The magnetosphere is saving your ass now as you argue on the internet.
>>70392277>>70392352And you're saying both Venus and Mars have weak magetosphere, right?And from that, we'll get UV rays easier or something like that?Is it possible making an artificial magnetosphere?
>>70392437Even if Venus has a weak one, it's atmosphere is so thick it wouldn't matter
>>70392437Venus has as a magnetosphere. Mars doesn't have one because it's core is no longer molten. The spinning of a molten core is what generates the magnetosphere.
Damnit, I want more cosmic short stories about humankind being awesome and shit. I love them so.
>>70392514What are the theories on why Mars's core solidified?
Unless we can jumpstart the dead core somehow, terraforming Mars ain't happening.
>>70392514>>70392626This sounds like some serious SCIENCE shit.And that's awesome.
>>70392625Probably just because it's a lot smaller than Earth or Venus so it takes less time to cool.
Who's ready to pioneer space and establish our genes on martian land for future generations of mankind?Just think, your child might be the ancestor of a beautiful undine!
>>70392670But I thought the constant motion kept ours hot indefinitely?
wch aria wud u fuq
Are you sure you want so set foot on Mars?
>>70392785I ain't even scurred.
>>70392785weren't beta found on the moon
>>70391394>>70391152>>70391025oh god these stories
>>70392804The first one is my favourite, I think. The second one is pretty awesome too but ends too abruptly.
>>70392514>>70392472Venus and Mars don't have magnetospheres. That's why Mars doesn't have an atmosphere anymore and why Venus' is chipped away slowly.
>>70392730Not indifinitely, no.
>>70392804>>70392855Heh. /tg/ has grown tired of HFY, so don't expect new material.
>>70392624I have a whole folder full with these
>>70392858Yes, Venus does have a magnetosphere. It's just much, much weaker than Earth's.
>>70392657No that's sounds like some serious IMPOSSIBLE shitLike trying to repair a car or a computer what was hit by some thermite shit, and you can't use spare parts.
>>70392922excellent, keep posting them
If earth has this magneticfield, how come the iron powder on my table is unaffected?
>>70392785Ofc, I want to ask them, how you're waifu tastes
>>70392922PLEASE POST THEM ALL KIND ANON
It's not that strong, gravity is stronger.It's just fucking huge.
>>70392958Your personal magnetic field is cancelling it out. If you leave the room, it will move.
>>70392802Yes.Shall we check the out the moon again?
>>70392922
>>70392707What do you mean?
>>70393060
>>70392935It has no magnetic field, and the Sun's magnetosphere wrapping itself around the planet doesn't prevent massive atmosphere loss and charged particles to hit the upper reaches of the atmosphere.
>>70392938That's why it's SCIENCE and not science.
>>70391633Needs more mass
Cheer up dudes
Wow... reading this thread makes me rethink of Martian Terraforming.After a few reading, it looks more plausible to terraform Venus given the right technology
>finally we have the technology to send a lot people to mars>everyone os hyped>we need the moon because it is easier to start from there>build up camps and exploration teams>suddenly BETA
>>70393093
>>70393027forgot to qoute >>70392958
>>70393093Anon I love you!
>>70393219>it looks more plausible to terraform Venus given the right technologyHahahahahaha, no. Living on Venus is however slightly more possible.
>>70393186Exploring the Internets ended when AOL got connected to it.
>>70393093>Aliens' faces when discovering Australia
>>70391025Jesus, someone needs to teach this guy what homophones are. For that matter, he also needs to learn that commas are not a form of catch-all punctuation to be used anytime you think a period would be inappropriate.
>>70393235
>>70393219I don't think anyone has ever thought about terraforming Mars, it's simply not possible. That's why it's all about making small colonized areas.
>>70393093>their
>>70393369>I don't think anyone has ever thought about terraforming MarsBut we're all thinking about it right now.
Mars cannot be terraformed until it's core starts moving on it's own providing some motherfucking magnetic field
>>70393409Well in terms of the people who can actually go there, they know it's a waste of time and don't bother.
>>70393459>"Earth-san, my c-core is moving on it's own...!"
>>70393459>onii-chan>my core is moving on its own
>>70393459Why don't we just send a bunch of magnets there?
>>70393259>Every last human on that planet somehow found a weapon and shot at us with it
>>70393459>until it's core starts moving on it's ownLOL
>>70393486>>70393491'moving on its own'mind
>>70391025>>70391152>>70391394Are those from some anime plot threads?
>>70393538they're from /tg/
>>70391814Either way, science says it won't go extinct and previous theories were extraggerated.
I want /v/ to get the fuck out.
>>70393369In SCIENCE, and nor in normal science, there is no such thing as impossible.
>>70393555/tg/ confirmed for /a/'s butt buddy.
It's simple, we just set up an array of satellites that form a magnetic shield around Mars.That's how the Cult of Mars did it.
>>70393060>>70393093>>70393259THIS FEELING
>>70393677That's actually a good idea.
I miss /tg/ now, maybe I should start going there again
>>70393732What if one of the satellites gets taken out by space debri?
>implying Mars won't just have it's atmosphere blown away by solar winds again
>>70393776Make a new one
But we need an incentive so that amerifags stop killing arabs and actually go to mars. Some private company should carry a secret mission to take a lifeform from earth to mars and have curiosity take a pic of it. Then sit down and witness the shitstorm.
>>70393794Wouldn't the magnetic field fall when that happens causing some serious shit?
>>70393677Solar shit would fuck up the satellites though
When I think about space it's just so odd to me, an infinite enormous space with giant balls of rock and gas floating around in it, and some of these rocks have shields and fucking vegetation and life on it.Like what the fuck, that's just so fucking strange to me.
>>70393776We have to build it redundant, if any of them breaks, we should have some time to replace.Also, some basic AI to avoid thse shits and we have less to fear from>>70393832>solar shitA lot that shit can (could) be used as energy source.
Please I'm going to freeze my self when I die so I can be brought back to life when this does happen.
>>70393879Such is life in the zone
>>70393879I fact there are almost as many, maybe more space with nothing, inside of the atoms around, and inside of you.
>>70393907If you freeze yourself when you die, you'll only be preserving a corpse.
>>70393804China's increasingly advanced space program might reignite the space raceI can imagine Americans feeling threatened if China land a man on the moon or mars
>>70393907That is actually the best thing that could come to us.It's a joker to every scinetific achievement.You just freeze yourself for some more years, and you can see the new shits.
>>70393776Fuck satellites. We put the thing at the end of a space elevator.One on the north pole, one on the south pole and wherever else we need. They will double as trading ports.,As for space debris. We have Planetes. You copy?
>>70393963For sure, America can't handle another country competing with them in space.
>>70393934Oh god why does this creep me out
>>70393963if china lands on the moon, its on like donkey kong.
>>70393963That's the only way it'll happen. America will never get back into space until they have a rival again.
I watched a show called "death of a rover" the other day and actually felt feelings towards the Mars rovers ;_;
>>70393989I think satellites would be betternumbers win over strengththose satellites can be locked down, no one cound have access to it, they would avoid everything.Those shits on ground would create insane polical wars, also it would be a great target for terrorists.With two times the satellites we need they would have to shoot down too many at once to fuck up everything.
>>70390635>1 way ticket to marsyou travel you cant come backtake ur animus and mango, no internet over there yet
>>70394137Can you imagine one day in the future talking to anons on 4chan who are on Mars? What a strange realization that would be.
These stories are making me feel oddly patriotic to the fictional human empires kicking ass around the universe
>>70390635terraform >>>> shit >>> boring shit >>>> more shit >>>>> raped by BETA >>> waifu eaten by BETA >>>> that thing.
>>70394177It's pretty much impossible to share internet with another planet.
>>70394177Imagine how shitty it would be to browse internet from Mars>3-18 minutes of lag depending on how far away Mars is to Earth at that time
>>70394223Ya now that i think about it I kind of jumped the gun, bummer though.
>>70394211>obligatory post about humanity can achieve shit because wars. money. and politicsWe will end up will prisoners on Mars, I'm almost sure.
>>70394177The Earthling vs Martians thread will be glorious.>lol earthfags enjoy your heat>not even mad marsfag, enjoy your dust and brown everywhere
>born too earlyBefore we terraform Mars we are going to need fusion, clean transportation and other ways to improve the environment on Earth. Let's not kid ourselves. If we can't fix our own planet, we're not gonna live long enough to see Mars change, and will just fuck it up like how we fucked this planet up.
>>70394235i can just imagine all the future kids complaining about lag from one planet to the next in their Cawadooty Modern Warfare 99
>>70392055http://www.plasticbrickautomaton.com/?id=71
>>70394255I don't know man, humans are like a plague, we just stick around no matter what even if we don't contribute anything.
So, if mars has no magnetosphere, all we need is to fix thatI say we dig a deep hole on mars and nuke its insidesAfter some nukes the core will be molten again and we will have a summer home to go
>>70394041>The rover completed its planned 90-sol mission. Aided by cleaning events that resulted in higher power from its solar panels, Spirit went on to function effectively over twenty times longer than NASA planners expected following mission completion. Spirit also logged 7.73 km (4.8 mi) of driving instead of the planned 600 m (0.4 mi), allowing more extensive geological analysis of Martian rocks and planetary surface features. Initial scientific results from the first phase of the mission (the 90-sol prime mission) were published in a special issue of the journal Science.>On May 1, 2009 (5 years, 3 months, 27 Earth days after landing; 21.6 times the planned mission duration), Spirit became stuck in soft soil. This was not the first of the mission's "embedding events" and for the following eight months NASA carefully analyzed the situation, running Earth-based theoretical and practical simulations, and finally programming the rover to make extrication drives in an attempt to free itself. These efforts continued until January 26, 2010 when NASA officials announced that the rover was likely irrecoverably obstructed by its location in soft soil, though it continued to perform scientific research from its current location.>The rover continued in a stationary science platform role until communication with Spirit stopped on March 22, 2010. JPL continued to attempt to regain contact until May 24, 2011, when NASA announced that efforts to communicate with the unresponsive rover had ended.That little thing fought to the very end. :_;
>>70394319Sounds like a flawless plan that couldn't possibly go wrong!
>>70394223Quantum entanglement would like to have a word with you.
>Your species will never ally with the most hated bunch of dicks in the universe and wage war across the galaxy as it burns
>>7039431912/10, brilliant American plan
>>70394281>fusionThey sure are taking their sweet time on that
>>70394267my thoughts exactlywonder how can we do fun things in mars...
>>70394281>we are going to need fusionhttp://www.iter.org/The single most important international research project currently in operation.
>>70394319>insidesThis thread is stragely boner inducing sometimes.
>>70394281>f we can't fix our own planet, we're not gonna live long enough to see Mars change, and will just fuck it up like how we fucked this planet up.Oh look, it's this guy.
>>70394331I think it would be extremely cool if in the future when or if we make it to Mars that some one went out and grabbed the rovers and brought them back home.
>>70394319God bless, murrika
>>70394404
>>70394331
>>70394281>we cant fix our planet...We won't 'fix' Mars. We will just make habitable enough to fuck it up again.
>>70394281Also, we need a better system then capitalism for driving progress, unless we all believe survival of the richest is the best way to succeed.
>>70394331He just wanted to come home.
>>70394404I think what he meant is that it would be better if we invented ways of using planets without killing them in the process, as in we would be able to live on the planet almost forever without us fucking it up beyond repair.
>>70394404The first paragraph of that alone is already correct. The Earth is quite capable of fixing itself as long as man leaves it alone long enough that reducing human population would be beneficial. The problem of course is that it takes generations before any noticeable changes can be made. Plastic is another problem that the Earth has problems fixing. But reducing plastic waste pollution still fixes that since less people will be around to add to the problem.
>>70390499we need to evolve in order to overcome adversity
>>70394443It's better than the alternatives.
>>70394427>arriving at Alpha Centauri THIS YEARIS THIS FUCKING TRUE?
>earlier claim in this thread>Atmosphere will be blown awayYup, in millions of years time. You know that a 10 year/return investment is considered long term in the real world, right?
>>70390650create a glass bubble of a floating airship greenhouse filled with plants. slowly expose them to the acidic atmosphere.Over several generations of plants, they will eventually be able to survive the acid, and eventually be able to thrive.Convert the atmosphere into oxygen, toss a few hundred ice comets into it, and viola! a tropical water planet with healthy volcanic system, allowing for strong magnetic field to protect against solar activity, which will last long after the planet Earth itself dies off.
>>70394552technology is already part of our evolution. We will not adapt to new worlds, we will adapt them for our use.
>>70394510Mars is already dead, dude. You're saying we shouldn't cast Resurrection on it because it would just die again a few thousand/hundred thousand/million years later.
I just want to spend my life relaxing in a beautiful, canal-laden city without a care in the world.Can't do that in Venice because it's too expensive. Can't do that in Neo Venezia because it doesn't exist.The closest thing I've got to a city filled with canals is Birmingham.
I live in exciting times. I'm glad I was here to share them with you Anon.
>>70392412sauce
>>70394663Boku no Mars
>>70394663Space Brothers
>>70394596If we could get a rocket that can travel fast enough, yes.It is roughly 4.37 lightyears away. Assuming we could press this rocket at 1/10th the speed of light, it would take 43 years to reach it.since the only real issue is fuel, we can make it with current earth tech.
>>70394802Don't listen to this guy, it's Space Sisters
>>70394596It means that if we had actually funded the space program, we could have used available technology to launch a probe twenty years ago and been receiving data from it today. Alpha Centauri is four light years away, a probe can't reach it in one year, but an Orion-powered spacecraft could make the trip in twelve to fifteen.
I wish more people were interested in space, most people I talk to know nothing about it and act like it doesn't even exist or they don't care.This is un-fathomable to me that someone does not care about the universe the biggest fucking mystery in our reality.
>>70394839Nah, it's Space Gondoliers.
>>70394828>>70394904Holy shit. I can't even imagine the implications of this.We need more science. Really.
>>70394920Couldn't have said it better
>>70393235>Japan is secretly working on a Buster Machine.BETA a shit
>>70391025great post, de geso
>>70395067
>>70391907The best thing is that it would workAssuming of course that Jupiter is majoritarily hydrogen
