Drawfag Thread 638irc: #drawfriends @ irc.rizon.netsecond rarfag's files until thread 629:http://www.mediafire.com/2ndrarfagDraw Friends Booru! http://drawfriends.booru.org/Please help a little by tagging pics!If you're going to tag a lot, use this script: http://userstyles.org/styles/66769/dfboorueasytaggerCan't find the thread? http://catalog.neet.tv/a/Missed a delivery or sudden 404? http://archive.foolz.us/a/Like auto refresh and shit? http://mayhemydg.github.com/4chan-x/thread 637 >>69722852
Taiga as a tsundere MILF with her son look like Ryuuji.
Reposting colored version of a 15 min delivery.
Just reposting this request for the drawfag that posted a WIP for it just in case he needs it! Thank you for picking it up! >>69727582Requesting Mizunashi Akari from ARIA using Iron Tager from Blazblue as a Gondola to ferry people around Neo Venezia.Or alternative, Akari sitting on his shoulder.
Either of these two AKB0048 characters being sekshi
Leonmitchelli from Dog Days dressed in her Great Lion Samurai clothing. Perhaps, if you're up for it, she could be fighting some kind of giant demon with her katana. A dynamic look would be key for that however, so I understand if you would look past that.Or if you're looking for something simpler, just her merely eating dango under a cherry blossom tree would be fine too. or just anything at all with her in these clothes too. Thanks so much!
Requesting Kyouko Sakura and Kyouko Toshino cosplaying as each other
These were requests of Oreki and Kaho from a Hyouka thread.I thought it would be appropriate to post these here, since they were, you know, requests.
requesting Aigis! cute preferred
Requestan:An upset DFC Naga pouting while holding up the graphically oversized top of her outfit, possibly due to a spell backfiring.Or anything of her will do.
Mimi Tasogare from Duel Masters dressed in a Yukata, while wearing visible geta with Twintails like this >>69773406Ones that still have her signature head curl if you could. If you're up for it, something cool with her having defeated a giant dragon or something would be awesome.
An anime girl of your choice is sniffing and licking the feet of this monster-girl.
>>69773480Ooh, that's really good!I wish I got some shipfaggotry requests from some series I like too. I like drawing couples.Postin' some Husbando-kun x Waifu-tan, it wasn't a request but I guess it can go here?
>>69773747What series do you like?
>>69773777Judging from his pixiv, Eureka Seven, Penguindrum, Kids on the Slope, and Fullmetal Alchemist.
>>69773747someone should draw some vanilla of Waifu-tan and Husbando-kun.
Requesting a Sea bishop monster girl having consensual sex in the missionary position for the purpose of procreation while holding hands. Please and Thank you
>>69773777This guy is right: >>69773923Aside of that, from currently airing: Moyashimon, Kokoro Connect, YuruYuri, Space Bros.
Requesting the girls on the right in the poses, respectfully, on the left please and thank you.
>>69773923Requesting couple of the all the yearsCan I have the link to your PIXIV?
>>69774137check previous thread
Gon-san(right) Jajanken-ing(glowing fist) through SSJ Goku's(left) Kamehameha/
>>69773747Well, if you like Yuru Yuri, then how about Akari and Momoko here? If you are not familiar with her, she is a mahjong player who has the gimmick of being able to be so unnoticeable, it's like she is invisible. Invisible girls would go great together.
I guess I'm going to have to break up >>69690203 into pieces...Requesting a snarky Kaname Madoka as Commissar Ciaphas Cain...
>>69774658>>69774658...Accompanied by a Akemi Homura as a very very very smelly Jurgen.
I promised that I'd colour this. I hope OR is around for lewd Nagatoro.
>>69774717>>69774658Have them taking down a monsterous Kyubey-fex.
Requesting Kawahama and Misato trying to talk Emukae into making wine for them, saying it would impress Zenkichi. If possible, a few Aspergillus microbes commenting on how dumb their plan is.
Requesting one of these...
>>69774860I can't fap to this.
>>69774907with Erica (from Campione).
repeating bunny Rukia request
Requesting Clover dressed like the girl at the right.
>>69773747>>69773923Does that mean you might actually do the Winry automail shop request?!
>>69775074You can replace the "MILK" on the scarf with her name, Clover.If you want, of course
Cardcaptor Sakura wearing the German M36 Nazi uniform.
>>69775030>Bunny RukiaBeen done bro, last year
>>69774137Here you go. I wanted more... detailed requests though? Also if you didn't find it in the previous thread, id=486354.>>69775114>Winry automail shop requestMore details please. Maybe I can actually do it, though I'll be going soon, and tommorow I'll be doing that husbando thread
>>69775349I think he means this one:http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/64307467/#64384692He's not kidding about it being around for a while:http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/41670249/#41707189
>>69775349It was basically Winry with a shop and whatever customers you would like. I always suggested Alita but it could be any character you want that would make sense to get repairs.
>>69775779>>69775723Well, I might at least try drawing Guts with Winry saying "Oh, a new customer". Seems fun.
Can i get a drawing of the last shot, with Mikuru ensnared by the tentacles?
>>69775723It's almost the two year anniversary!http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/40089236/#40098372
>>69775349>>69774137Coloured.
>>69775858yay!
>>69775990"Come on baby, light my fire."
Asking for a birthday picture for Hikaru from Magic Knight Rayearth since hers is on the 8th of August.
>>69776486How about her in her birthday suit?
>>69776486How about a faceless anon giving her a birthday cake and a gift?
from last thread.Too hot for clothes.
Requesting Godot (from Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations) and the owner of Cafe Florian (from ARIA) enjoying a coffee together.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEOaUeBvxgc
>>69777043Ha, I was going to do this as well, but I decided against it. Nice to know I'm not the only one parading around in underwear at home.
>>69776486>mfw I knew thisshe was my first waifu after all ;__; someone please do it
>>69773479hope you like! It's a little messy...
Labrys dress as FemScout from Team Fortress 2 or Saber and Monty Python's King Arthur deuling to the death or Teaming up
Requesting more cat eared santa suit Kaoru.
>>69777650Not OR, but I like it.
>>69777650I wasn't the person asking for it, but it's really damn cute. I especially like how you drew Kyouko. Nice work.
>>69777953>I especially like how you drew Kyouko
>>69777953>I especially like how you drew Kyouko.
>>69765895Left is MPE and Right is Lazengann.Any side can win as long as I see some punches and kicks in it.
Requesting Virsago gundam girl blushing & acting flustered.
>>69775160I hope you like it.
This is probably a bit too difficult. I'll understand if so.Requesting Yuzuriha Inori (pic below) posed as Mayael the Anima (pic above). Flowers (except the leaf) would be appreciated but not demanded.Drawfag has freedom and is encouraged to change the drawing as much as he appreciates.Thank you in advance.
>>69778901forgot the reference pic
Is it just me or is my 4changrab not working?
>>69773506
>>69775448That looks fine. Thanks, keep it up.>>69767662Thanks for your work. I like the drawing regardless of colors. Maybe she would be better with Rei's test suit instead of Asuka but that was mainly my fault since Asuka's plugsuit was part of the request.Thank you very much.
Progress on this? It didn't get dropped, did it? please
>>69777836I like that and think along with bunny Rukia it should be done.
>>69773747OTP.
>>69781437I don't think everyone's gonna like that.Good job though. Whatever everyone else says. Good job.
>>69781437
>>69781437Why is she a nigger?
>>69781501derp why waifu-tan brown herp i dont like it
>>69781577Because
>>69781577I think brown Waifu-tan with white Husbando-kun is a wonderful expression of love's power to transcend all boundaries of race, color, and creed.
>>69781700Their eyes are open. Certainly they're aware that they expect the other to attack with a knife first.
Requesting the Engineer and Naomasa Walking past each other and highfiving or working on blueprints for a new invention.
>>69781812Im stupid I forgot picture.
>>69774860She needs to be more abusive to senpai.
Le Masterpiece~This is my first drawing without a reference.
>>6978194311/10
>>69781943That is the best drawing I have ever seen, period
>>69781437Whoops, forgot Husbando-kun's handkerchief.
yo second rarfag, where's the uploading?thread 629?
>>69775030
>>69782118>interracial marraigeDisgusting.
>>69782343The vast majority of waifu relationships are interracial.
>>69774860Made some fixes which make it marginally better.
some one draw a fujoshi saying "your dudes are already paired"
>>69782118Could you do a version with their both eyes closed, if it's not too much to ask, please?I think it would be more...hmm..."lovely" like this.
>>69782118>>69781437Please make a version where she doesn't have brown skin.
>>69782297There are several things wrong with this but thank you.
>>69782528Why not changing the color yourself like you do normally?
>>69782398Yes but those are the acceptable kinds.
>>69781577Please note I have nothing to do with the rest of this trolling. I just hate brown with rainbow.>>69781578>>69781700>>69782343>>69782528
>>69782669Because everyone complains about the quality when I do it.
>>69782398I'd say they're interdimensional, even.
pic related
Here's a color example.
This shade is also good.
Can we please stop with the waifu skin color bullshit?
>>69782687it isn't rainbow for the last goddamn time you stupid fuck.
Requesting brown waifu-tan colored white by the force of a thousand cums.That should make everyone happy.
>>69782118I have to admit, the fact that Waifu-tan is brown and Husbando-kun white give a really nice charm...I really like it.
>>69783058pic relatedbitch.
Someone please do this.
>>69783269Did someone send Kyoko on her?
Anything with her,
requestin itsuwa making diner.
>>69783398
Could I request Cirno being horribly maimed by this tiger shark?
>>69783078Everyone knows what is meant when I say that.
>>69783243>>69783006>>69783058Looking at these three pictures at the same time really shows why the light skin color is best.
Requesting Solva of NEEDLESS actually using those magnets in her hair to do something....or Solva with the covered odangos hairstyle.NIGHTMARE MODE: Solva has her hair in covered odangos while also using those magnets in her hair to actually do something with them.
>>69783718whyyyyy?
>>69783269
>>69783754Light hair (as in, the pink on the bottom of waifu-tan's hair) looks good with dark skin. Get that "color theory" bullshit out of here.
>>69783889
>>69783889Woah
>>69783058Also I should note I do not rage and complain and demand no one ever gives her brown skin unlike how everyone tells me to not request white skin.I just would like a version I can save and look at.
>>69783904Except that argument would only work if her hair was entirely light, which it isn't.
>>69783889Is she crying? I can't telleither way its what I was looking for
>>69783980But the bottom of her hair is what's next to her skin, hence being the area of relevance.
>>69784043But your eye is drawn to the hair as a whole, not just what's touching her skin. It's overwhelmingly darker than it is lighter.
>>69783904You think that looks good? 8/10
>>69784130I'm done. Your taste is just absolute shit garbage tier. Pack it up, boys.
>>69784228It's like she has some sorta skin disease
>>69784228White skin waifu-tan confirmed for cancerous.
Skin colour aside, it kind of looks less like they're kissing and more like they're talking directly onto each others faces.
>>69784449Stop
Can we just get back to requests and deliveries?
>>69784235w/e
>>69784470I asked nicely first.
>>69784449wow its starting to look good!now all she needs is longer hair
>>69782118Confirmed for troll
So now these are waifu threads now. GreatPlease draw my waifu for me because deserve it over all these other fags and retards with shitty requests.
>>69784576Like this?
>>69784621That's not how you shitpost, anon. You have to post BRS or Saber instead.
Brown waifu-tan without her wig.
Requesting Makoto(bottom right) from AKB0048 squirming while getting her hand bandaged by nurse Yukirin(top, bottom left).
>>69784761People who talk about shitposts are always the shittiest posters.
>>69783658Did the author knew about spear-kun??
>>69784602>>69782118Waifu-tan FACT: Waifu-tan's skin contains millions of microscopic chromatophores which can rapidly shift between brown and white, allowing her to change skin color like an octopus.
>>69785255
Requesting Old Akagi smoking a 1000 ten stick.
>>69785255>Waifu-tan FACT: Waifu-tan's skin contains millions of microscopic chromatophoresDoes this mean she's a Jedi?
>>69785485>inb4 waifu-tan gets drawn with a lightsaber.
>>69782118So I would like this picture one second later when her skin isn't brown.>>69785255
>>69784761This is how you shitpost
>>69785731>>69784953
>>69785535then draw it or color it yourself faggot
>>69785532>a RAINBOW lightsaber
>>69785814>>foolz
>>69785814I don't think anyone picked it up or delivered sorry.
>>69785877>>69785877Ah oh well, Ill request it again with the right pic this time for reference. Thanks Anon.Requesting Tsundere Sion handcuffed to Rider with Sion trying to pick the locks and Rider looking away blushing.
That reminds me, I didn't see anyone pick my drawing of Misha either. This is from like two weekends ago.
>>69785780lol
>>69784228see>>69785813
Is Orta around?
Request Suiseiseki standing in her case which is flying in the air and she says "I'm here to save you all ~desu"
>>69786142No we drove her out of /a/? She only gets on gaia now. >>>/gaia/
disappointing
>>69786582That's not true, right?
>>69786142She has the eyes of a late 20s unmarried borderline-landwhale. Disgusting.
>>69786627its true. go check the archives. She's out of here.
Animated gif of Horo juggling apples and her taking a bite of one.
Before I ruin it by trying to shade/color BG, color delivery for Kaga-anon.
>>69782343I couldn't resist.
>>69786871>BB imagines himself raped by black gangsters
>>69786631First half sure but second half no.
>>69786909What a slut
>>69786865I like that.
>>69786871Now I want a shirt that says "Not Going To Fit"
Requesting Hawkeye in Deadshot's costume.No mask, just the eyepiece
>>69786824Lies.
>>69787058It should say "It's not going to fit" and she's being gangraped by niggers
>>69786824>posted less than a day ago>say she'll be finishing it soonYour pants are on fire
>>69786582>>69786627>>69786824You guys believe anything.
>>69787086Deadpool > Deadshot
>>69787161Dayumn, I need step by step tutorial for that mountain.
>>69787250>In before I need a step-by-step tutorial for everything
>>69787305No, I just haven't seen that many BG tutorials around.
>>69787250Bob Ross?
>>69787215I didn't believe.
>>69787228Get on my level
>>69787350the clouds aren't happy
>>69787161If I was a big enough faggot I would post an emoticon but you already know I'm cheesing it like cheddar cheetah.tldr; dont get your panties in a bunch.
>>69786865Also, would anyone happen to have the screenshot of the image this was based on for BG reference? I know it's from YY, but I don't have this shot saved and I'd really rather not search for the exact scene if someone has the image.
>>69786142>>69786582>>69786582geez it's not even 7am there and yer start againFor half year none found out my gender and it was fun to take part in these threads, and now some of you guys start to act like retards over 3D girl. Are You really that desperate ? It's gross. Go to /b/ or /s/ if yer looking for such entertainment, /a/ is not for people interested in 3DPD women. /end of bitching
>>69787369>>69787369
>>69787480>/a/ is not for people interested in 3DPD women/a/men
>>69787480>/end of bitching Really?
>>69787480Don't be mad. If anyone asked about another drawfag I would have said done the same thing.
>>69787542She said "/endofbitching", as in the end of the endofbitching. Meaning the bitching begins anew.
>>69787480Isn't it your fault you went all "btw I'm a girl" on these faggots?
>>69787161I'd rather have this as the background.
>>69787480>/a/ is not for people interested in 3DPD women.
how about we turn this away from drawfag drama and to deliveries within the thread.
>>69787480I was just complimenting you and your beautiful eyes.
>>69787745
>>69787763Stick to business, the drawfags are here for their services and no more, don't make them more than what they are. Either way, don't make a big deal of female users.
>>69787086will start on it when I awake. I was in the last thread all night last night and only got a little bit of sleep.
>>69784602Seems like an incest marriage.
>>69787943I'd service... oh it's no fun doing jokes if she isn't going to laugh about it.
>>69787943>the drawfags are here for their services and no moreI want orta to service me, staring at me with her cold eyes.
>>69787980racist
>>69788045>>69787994You should be more like me.
>>69788059It's a hair thing. Even if it was brown Waifu-tan I would still say it because a rainbow hair gene can only come from her family.
>>69787627Of all the things I could be doing right now...
>>69787980Perfect for /a/
(self-fulfilling prophecy)
>>69788423And yet you're here every week. Who's the crazy one now?
>>69788423You should try harder to change it.Now draw me some Mio.
>>69788423Requesting drawfags draw their waifus dressed as farmers, carting away the thread, delighted at having free fertilizer.
>>69788276kagami should be smiling.
Draw Yuuka doing a kamehame-ha!
>>69788482Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are those of the fictional character, BB-tan, and do not necessarily state or reflect the views of the actual artist, BB.
>>69781437The precise moment this thread ran into a ditch.
>>69788571>Now someone draw me some Mio.I should start checking my posts twice before posting.
>>69788635whatever bro, get some sleep!
>>69788608
>>69788635Requesting BB-tan looking out from BB's computers screen with that text overlaying her shouting "But you drew me saying that, you son of a bitch! I'm a drawing, I don't have opinions!"
>>69788594This sounds like it could involve cowgirls somehow.
>>69788794Yes! Perfect!Makes me happy!
Come on guys, I only have one request I have already posted that needs to be fulfilled and I can leave these threads.>Implying I'll ever leave.
>>69788984What is it?
BEEP BEEP! DERIVERY!!
>>69789065Very nice a non. Say if you got the time can you do this one?>>69785967
>>69789236Ok. Do you want those costumes or something else?
>>69789349I was gonna say regular outfits, but use those costumes. Thanks again.
So I was looking for color references for Caster, and I found the pic where she's wearing bloomers. So requesting Caster and Saber, also wearing a gym uniform with bloomers, doing what the Hidamari girls are doing.Thanks in advance!
>>69789492Son of a bitch, my next project stolen...Yours will be better anyway, guess I need to get back to old requests in the meantime.
>>69789616>Son of a bitch, my next project stolen...Sorry dude, but don't be a pussy and stop because I started coloring this. Who knows, your version might be better.
I never get how you guys get so good using tablets. I can't fucking stand to use them, having no response is a pain in the ass. I envy you all.
>>69789468Here you go! I don't know when I will get back to it.
>>69790625It looks great drawfriend! Thanks!
>>69778991
I made a shitty comic for waifu-tan and husbando-kun, but it takes up three images so I just uploaded them onto imageshack.http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8499/waifuvanilla1dun.pnghttp://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8611/waifuvanilla2.pnghttp://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7078/waifuvanilla3.pngi'm sorry for making husbando-kun look like such a little bitch holy fuck
>>69792203Are you trying to kill me?
>>69792203See you guys later, I'm -
>>69792203Hey what's thi- HNNNGHHHHHelpI love your version of him.
>>69792203Uncolored Husbando-kun reminds me of a mix between Ararararagi-san and Koizumi.
>>69773311sekshi?
>>69792463Me too.
>>69786865BG and shit before shade.>>69792478I assume that "sekshi" is japanophile for "sexy".
>>69792203Man that's fucking adorable.
>>69791785Nice>>69792203AdorableRequesting Erika doing the reaction of the girl on the left.Goodnight!
>>69792243>>69792288>>69792441>>69792463>>69793067>>69793226Thanks, guys!Aaaaand goodnight, dudes.
Random question: I'm trying to practice drawing characters, but I can't think of anything when it comes to poses.Any ideas, or just grab any random pose I think looks cool?
>>69794961Draw characters looking/facing in a certain direction, or doing an action.
>>69792203
>>69794961Look yourself in the mirror?
>>69794961Random poses are always good when trying to learn, select a few that catch your interest and go from there.
>>69794961Try posemaniacs.com
>>69788423Why does BB-tan look so tired all the time? I kinda like it.
>>69795193Too much sex.
TIME TO ROCK AND ROLL
Dog Days harem endwww.dogdays.tv
>>69787622monkey_society.jpg
>>69791785OR is pleased. Thank you for your drawing.
>>69792203>Waifu-tan sees your dick
>>69787622Someone noticed on her youtube or pixiv account her gender. And then they found her picture, it confirmed that she's a girl.I've noticed something:> Nrvnqsr Chaos !bBlcN5UKUI 04/15/12(Sun)20:44 No.64359462Requesting genderbent Aoko Aozaki or Mahou Shoujo Aoko Aozaki(found on her soup)
>>69798521I remember that Aoko. Or more like I remember THAT ASS. She used different trip than Orta back then, right ?
>>69792203>blockedcan someone upload it on imgur?
I did this in like an hour off by heart. I don't usually draw.
>>69798848>off by heartLooks traced to me bro
>>69799011It isn't I assure you, I'm really good at remembering things about people though.
>>69798848>I don't usually draw.Yep. Are you trying to garner pity points for a shitty drawing, or did you genuinely think it was a decent picture and attempt to make it seem impressive?
>>69798848You got hairy legs.
>>69798848Reminds me of my very first anime drawing ever. Both are frontal face drawings and even the quality is just as shitty.
re-requesting these girls in any pose, possibly interacting with each other.
>>69786857Trying my hand at animation. This should be fun. WIP1.
>>69799432The movement looks like it's forcing to itself to obey the "principles of animation" instead of what looks great.
>>69799432That's not juggling, that's tossing, juggling is when you through under hand and over hand in a circle, or suspend objects in air, but not toss hand to hand.
>>69800225Hmmm here's another try.
>>69801309That looks alot better
>>69801309I agree, it does really look better now, good job!
>>69801309Much better, although I don't think you need to motion blur so much when the movement isn't that fast.
>>69801419I think it looks nice. It doesn't make the balls seem like they're moving at the speed of sound or anything, but removing/reducing it would take away from the motion in my opinion. It gives the sensation she's flicking her wrists to throw the balls.
>>69798521She has a youtube account? Link?
>>69801656http://www.youtube.com/user/123LadyMika123her blog http://radical---dreamer.tumblr.com/http://tusiek.soup.io/pixiv id: id=1015668she had deviantart, but is seems like she has deleted her account
>>69801656Sup Hisao?
>>69801960
>>69801960Now we spoonfeed too? These threads are awful
>>69789065OR here. This is absolutely perfect. Thanks a lot!
>>69801960Nice
>>69801960>Favorite type-moon character>Not Saber
>>69801960TIL Orta is a naughty girl
>>69802761>TIL>>>/reddit/
>>69803019TIL is awesome. I don't post there bt there's always one or two cool headlines each day.
>>69803128>Visiting reddit to begin withGet the fuck out.
>>69803285Fuck off and die, fascist.
>>69803493You're the one who browses that shithole, why don't you take your own advice?
>>69803493>fascistThat's right. We don't like attention whores here.Back to reddit.
>>69803546>>69803493>>69803285>>69803128>>69803019>>69802761>>69803588First it was btw im a girl, now it reddit. Yes this is a drawthread and yes this is drawing and requesting. But do go on, i am loving this shit.
>>69803661
Caster from Fate Extra wearing Nero's wedding dress, her hair down instead of tied up. Because fuck, anyone who has played the game knows Caster deserved the dress over Nero
>>6980383911/10 post right here. Here is mine credit card number 6545-9644-9878- CIV 154. Go buy more internet.
>>69801309Thanks for all the comments guys. Here's the third WIP. I think this will be it for now.
>>69803906There's a frame without collarbones.Cute little animation, though.
>>69803906Do you animate?Do you have some sort of way to take requests privately?
>>69803839Is that mascot their version of Kyubey??
Request waifu-tan and husbando-kun on bicycles in Hawaii seeing the world's tallest tree and husbando-kun is a reverse trap and whatever else you can work in from TIL
>>69803980I do a little bit of animation but I barely have an understanding of timing. I was just lucky that this animation was really even and cyclical. As for private requests, it'd have to be something commissioned cause this takes way more time than I'd like. email in email field.
>>69803906this is turning out much better than expected but I hope she smiles in the final delivery
>>69804059>>69799359All these waifu tan stuff should stay in the waifu threads.
>>69803839What a sad time when 4chan no longer prides itself on being terrible and calls other places cancerous.
>>69792203That's way too cute.
>>69786871BB has kind of a thing for Lil Jon, doesn't he.
I'll stop waifutan stuff is someone does the Sailor Mars rover request.
Faye wearing a Cowgirl outfit.
>>69804564Is that a pathetic blackmail attempt?
>>69804564I don't negotiate with terrorists.
Requesting more of her, please.
If someone says draw your waifu/favorite character.What if you have multiple favorite characters, but don't think of them as a waifu, but just as favorite characters?
>>69806003Draw whoever you feel like drawing the most.
>>69806003Then don't draw them?Or just say the truth, they're not your waifus, just your favorite female characters?
>>69804564What exactly is that request?Can't expect someone to pick it up if you don't have both references and what you want it to be.
