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    1010 KB Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)02:42 No.64154501  
    So I just finished watching Hellsing Ultimate, why the shiggidy diggidy did Butler betray Hellsing? ;_; I bet it's got something to do with that white haired faggot that never speaks.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)02:43 No.64154537
    >>64154501
    I mean up to episode 9.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)02:45 No.64154579
    C'mon /a/, I want to talk about this.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)02:47 No.64154644
    He always hated Alucard. He stole his thunder in the battlefield, Integra favoring Alucard over him seemed to have something to do, he hated being that cool old guy. Alucard taunted the fuck of him as they fought because he was going to be "too old" and forgotten.

    Walter's an arrogant prick. Go read the manga. He acts politely, but he insults Alucard (his supposed friend) when his back is turned. He's also pretty arrogant. Integra ate her pride and asked for help when Maxwell came along. Walter didn't want to.

    The reasons of hating Alucard came up as half assed because Hirano didn't finish Hellsing: the Dawn (where you can see they don't like each others). The official guidebook reveals it would have been clearer if he did.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)02:50 No.64154724
    >>64154644
    Interesting, where can I get this manga?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)02:55 No.64154867
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    >>64154724

    Google? Some online readers have the order fucked up and missing chapters.

    So maybe if you torrent it...

    The thing with Walter is that he had a bad case of the green eyed envy. He hated Alucard was besting him in everything, so he tried to prove him that he could defeat him. He also seemed to resent that everyone saw him as a feeble old man (at least Alucard hinted it during their fight eventually). It got worse with age.

    The Valentine's Brothers attack was planned like him, but it didn't go as planned. There were two vampires, instead of one. Plus his dicking around almost destroys the organization and endangered Integra's life (when he was showing off).

    Meanwhile Alucard lunched the other vampire with ease.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)02:57 No.64154948
    >>64154867
    >AlucardxIntegra, PipxSeras, Walterxforeveralone.jpg

    No wonder he's butthurt. He didn't get a waifu.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:00 No.64155029
    >>64154948
    Haha yeah, don't the writers release a new episode of Ultimate every 6 fucking months or some shit?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:01 No.64155050
    >>64154501
    Everyone dies.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:04 No.64155118
    >>64155029

    Read the manga.

    It's miles better than the OVA. Maybe OVA 7 is the only one that can surpass it.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:07 No.64155186
    >>64155050

    ...only the bad guys and traitors and Penwood.

    When a 'hero' does, they just come back with improvements:

    >Seras (beginning)
    >Pip
    >Alucard

    Hirano can't into dark and edgy.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:07 No.64155187
    >>64155050
    Even Count? ;_;
    >tfw I always read the writing at the start;
    "The Bird of Hermes Is My Name, Eating My Wings To Make Me Tame" and get shiver every time
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:08 No.64155218
    >>64154867
    >The thing with Walter is that he had a bad case of the green eyed envy. He hated Alucard was besting him in everything, so he tried to prove him that he could defeat him. He also seemed to resent that everyone saw him as a feeble old man (at least Alucard hinted it during their fight eventually). It got worse with age.

    Which is kinda hilarious. I mean, Walter is just a human while Alucard is a vampire even further enhanced by the Hellsing experiments. I don't know how he thought he could match him.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:09 No.64155250
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    >>64155186

    See

    >>64155187
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:09 No.64155254
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    >>64155186
    >Penwood.

    best death ever, especially considering his character up to that point
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:10 No.64155302
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    >>64154501
    MOE MOE MOE
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:11 No.64155325
    It's sad because Alucarp was a little jealous of Walter too, wasn't he? Or maybe he was just fucking with him. Pretty sure he was at least a little jealous of regular humans though.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:12 No.64155343
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    >dat feel when you'll never get to raise three little psychopaths
    Also, how old is Anderson?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:12 No.64155353
    >>64155218

    Doesn't stop him from being butthurt.

    He hates Alucard because "WHY IS HE SO PERFECT?" AT least he realizes he's acting like a retard in the end.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:13 No.64155385
    >>64155218
    >I don't know how he thought he could match him.

    By making a deal with nazi vampires to have them throw a battalion of undead soldiers, crazy priests and vatican crusaders at the guy, become a superhuman vampire himself and battle it out after all of Alucard's lives had been exhausted? He already decided to kill him 60 years ago and it was a good plan.
    Too bad even that wasn't enough.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:15 No.64155438
    OP here, downloading the manga now.
    Is it worth watching the other series?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:15 No.64155439
    >>64155325
    He wants to die, that's about it.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:17 No.64155484
    >>64155325

    Alucard solves his emo self loathing issues after the last battle. He even tells Walter he was being a little shit and he wasn't stupid to gamble and throw away his entire life like that.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:17 No.64155489
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    >white haired faggot that never speaks

    You dare insult The Captain?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:17 No.64155492
    >>64155438
    Only thing TV series has going for it is some of the music. Everything else was anime original bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:18 No.64155530
    >>64154501
    >hating on the captain
    >shiggidy diggidy
    yeah, nah, you're a cunt
    >>>/v/
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:19 No.64155538
    >>64155438

    It's ok in an AU kind of way. Many of the key plot elements exist only with a different setting. Anime's a lot darker and depressing, even if it lacks gore.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:19 No.64155540
    >>64155489
    That faggot shot my favorite character and then SHOWED HER MERCY
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:20 No.64155562
    >>64155489
    Ironic how a character who's barely in the show gets the best fight in it.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:20 No.64155566
    >>64155439
    >missing the point of his entire arc

    He doesn't. Not yet anyway. He's fucking tired of losing when it matters and losing everything.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:21 No.64155588
    >>64155254
    I want to pinch his cheeks.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:24 No.64155663
    >>64155439

    He doesn't want to die... He even unconsciously strives to keep on living during his fight with Anderson. That's why he awoke. Because he did not want to give up.

    The issue with Alucard is what is hammered down our brains every fucking time a flashback or nostalgia plays: OH GOD, I HAVE NOTHING. I FUCKED IT UP TWICE AND LOST IT ALL.

    Instead of blaming to his enemies who bested him, he blames himself.

    His battle with Walter helps him to say: I won't fuck it up this time like this faggot did.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:29 No.64155819
    >>64155439

    One day, he will meet Anderson in Hell. But what Alucard wanted is not going full retard and get abandoned by whoever he was fighting for, then losing everything (his servants, country and castle as he did twice in the past). God and Mina betrayed him.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:33 No.64155968
    >>64155819
    >mina
    I'm guessing all will be explained in the manga?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:34 No.64156000
    >>64155968
    read your Bram Stoker
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:34 No.64156001
    >>64154501
    >why the shiggidy diggidy
    Stop blatantly misusing memes, even if it is an awful one to begin with.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:36 No.64156055
    >>64155968

    OVA went full retard and cut the whole present/past parallel narrative of a vampire traveling to England to claim a woman he wanted to fuck. The mist and fog were mentioned and how the ship aboard was filled with corpses and one coffin.

    The theme of past repeating itself was a BIG FUCKING thing in the manga. Major even called it a rehearsal of the play that was staged 100 years ago (Dracula themed).
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:38 No.64156101
    >>64156000

    It's a mix of Bram Stoker and Coppola movie. Also in the official guidebook (and Hirano said it many times in interview). He wanted to add a gothic romantic element to the story or some shit.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:41 No.64156190
    >>64156101
    >>64156000
    >stoker
    >cappola

    OP here, what the fuck. I'm downloading the manga, what else will fully explain all this?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:42 No.64156228
    >>64156001
    >saging my thread
    >trying to tell me what to do

    How about eat a dick.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:43 No.64156256
    >>64155566
    >>64155663
    >>64155819
    >>64156055
    >>64156101
    Not the same guy, but fuck I missed this as well when I finished the series. Watched OVAs (up to 8) and finished with the manga, never realized the underlying theme you guys spoke of until now.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:45 No.64156310
    >>64156190

    Stoker is the writer of the novel Dracula...? Coppola made a movie adaptation with a reincarnation subplot love story between Mina and Dracula in 1992.

    Hirano was inspired by both and other Dracula stuff (the guy is a big geek, he wrote Hellsing because he wanted to make a tribute to Dracula, that's why he published it in the 100th anniversary of the novel). He had Vlad wear a similar armor of the Vlad in the Coppola version and had a romantic subplot with Mina (it's only mentioned) without reincarnation hinjinks involved. Mostly he sticks to Stoker aside of that.

    Oh and he omits Harker, Mina's husband. Major mentions in the Dawn that Abraham and Dracula fought 'over her' ("madness and sanity fought over her and sanity won"). So who knows.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:47 No.64156375
    >>64156256

    Hirano flat out admit since volume 1 that Hellsing exists because he wanted to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Dracula novel.

    He added the Nazis later. Then he tied up to say lolz it Nazis were fodder it was all about Dracula.

    Understandably, the OVA production axes this a little since it seemed like reading two plots.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:50 No.64156432
    >>64156256

    And now you realize why did Alucard tends to ignore everyone while going to seek someone out in particular. Every. Single. Time.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:53 No.64156507
    >>64156228
    You are trolling, right?
    Sage is not an insult, it is merely a way to make your post not bump the thread, which mine should not since it does not contribute to the topic at hand. And I'm telling you what to do because you come off looking like a retard when you mash words together that don't make any sense. So how about you go eat that dick yourself? You seem to have a bigger need for it than I do.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:55 No.64156562
    >>64156256

    That's why the story ended that way, you know. It all tied up with Alucard getting what he wanted without losing what he had.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)03:56 No.64156590
    >>64156507
    >thinking anybody besides /jp/ knows how to use sage
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:00 No.64156693
    >>64156256

    Now re-reading knowing this. It's set up since the beginning. Major even outs Integra as the reason why he remains in volume 4. She's better Master than God and purer waifu than Mina. Two failures wrapped together.

    Tanko 10 even adds a scene with Integra telling Major Alucard will return home and he (the Major) was the fucking true monster.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:01 No.64156726
    >>64156590
    Who are you quoting?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:10 No.64156917
    >Yumi gets torn apart and Heinkel gets her face blown away

    Fuck this gay earth
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:11 No.64156947
    >>64156917

    Heinkel couldn't even avenge Yumie. ;_;

    Integra avenged Alucard and Seras avenged Pip.

    AND THEY CAME BACK. FUCK IT.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:12 No.64156949
    >>64156726
    >>64156507
    >>64156001
    that autism
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:13 No.64156994
    >>64156947
    Doesn't Heinkel get the last shot on Walter in the final volume? Been a while since I read it
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:14 No.64157018
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    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:17 No.64157069
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    >>64157018
    aww shiit, did someone say Hellsing image dump?

    well too bad, i only have like 2 pictures
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:17 No.64157094
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    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:18 No.64157102
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    >>64157069

    Why would you post that faggot anyway
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:18 No.64157106
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    oh, found a couple more
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:19 No.64157130
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    >>64157102
    are you implying Rip Van is a guy?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:20 No.64157157
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    >>64157130

    >implying he isn't
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:22 No.64157208
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    >>64157157
    >implying she is
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:22 No.64157226
    >>64154867
    >Plus his dicking around almost destroys the organization and endangered Integra's life (when he was showing off).
    You mean just like how Alucard does in every other chapter? Like instead of facing the enemy head on he sits in the basement while the whole army gets killed off? Or when he goes on the boat and the whole city of London gets fucked?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:23 No.64157256
    >>64156994

    Walter decided at last moment that Heinkel wouldn't kill him. So he fucked off and went to kill Doc, discover Mina's remnants and die because the Zeppelin was set on FIRE.

    No, he just taunted the shit of Heinkel and then left.

    >>64157157
    >faggot detected.

    Rip is Hirano's waifu. He likes to draw her getting dicked by Russians.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:24 No.64157274
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    >>64157208

    this show is full of traps

    rip van is a hairy dude beneath the tight nazi uniform, deal w/it
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:26 No.64157333
    >>64156190
    God you are stupid

    I bet you think Alucard was invented by the Japs too
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:26 No.64157334
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    3dpd, look away quickly
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:26 No.64157341
    >>64157226

    Alucard trusted that they would take care of the menace themselves since Luke was shit-tier and, lo, they did. He didn't fucking sell the helicopter escape to the enemies like that piece of shit Walter did.

    Also, Alucard can't cross running water. That's why he hurried th fuck back to come back.

    You can talk shit of Alucard in everything, but he's fucking devoted to Integra unlike that beta jealous old man.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:26 No.64157347
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    >>64157274
    I refuse your blasphemy
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:27 No.64157360
    >>64157334
    emphasis on the PD, Jesus man
    >> I like my !Trip.6m6eg 04/12/12(Thu)04:28 No.64157385
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    >>64154501
    reminds me of shaft head tilt
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:28 No.64157395
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    >>64157347

    Hey look, another sexy nazi girl

    ...Oh wait
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:29 No.64157414
    >>64157341
    >Also, Alucard can't cross running water. That's why he hurried th fuck back to come back.
    They could have easily bombed the ship and sink it instead of sending the only valuable troop they had.

    But the could have also shot down the zeppelins above the Atlantic ocean, so it's not like it matters
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:29 No.64157415
    >>64157226

    When?

    The time she's in serious shit, he even shields her with his body. He trusts that Seras will protect her too. He SENDS Seras with her.

    He's a creep to everyone but Integra. That's why he's called a lapdog by his enemies. Because he acts like one.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:30 No.64157450
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    >>64156726
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:31 No.64157464
    >>64157414
    I though they mentioned shooting the boat down but dismissed it for one reason or another. Also, no one saw the zeppelins coming due to defectors in the British ranks.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/12(Thu)04:32 No.64157495
    >>64157414
    >I didn't read Hellsing

    Key agents of the government sold out to Millennium.

    Also the Major is pretty retarded. He knows Alucard remains for Integra and doesn't touch a strand of her hair when she's in his fucking Zeppelin. He knows his weakness is running water and he doesn't drop a bomb into the Eagle carcass on his way to London.

    Noooo. His plan are edgier and ultimately fail. HE'LL HAVE INTEGRA WATCH NEXT TO HIM WHILE A CATBOY FINISHES HIM.

    Brilliant.



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