>but robots seriously creep me the fuck out.
racist

Watch it. It's a short series so get it off your backlog

>>63089268
You will identify with some of the characters, that's for sure.

>robots seriously creep me the fuck out

But Sammy is kawaii, nigga.

You are obviously not a dori-kei. It's time to join the Robot Ethic Committee, /a/non-bro.

would you eat an electronic sheep?

Watch episode 4 first

>>63089268
>but robots seriously creep me the fuck out
How?
Anyway, you should watch it and think a little about what makes us so different to highly advanced artificial intelligence inside an android.

>>63090196
The thought of a cybernetic revolt, these robots shouldn't be having emotions, fuck this anime. They should burn that cafe down

>>63090419
I assume you're done with the Animatrix series?

>creepy
But their appearance is essentially human. Zero uncanny valley there.

>They should burn that cafe down
People like you will be responsible for the 2nd renaissance.

>>63090419
You're a terrible human being, if you can be even considered as one.

>>63089268
Eve no Jikan is overrated. Don't take it's praises too seriously.

>>63090702
What, because I hate robots or because I hate the cafe?

>>63090876
Because you'd kill something sentient just because you're scared of it, seriously what is this the middle ages?

>>63090910
Gotta agree, really Op you're a massive faggot. It's not like they were trying to revolt anyway, the anime is about integration between humans and robots.

Set in the same universe as YKK, a few centuries earlier.

>>63090851

die

Yasuhiro is probably my favorite director. He should really get more work.

Mizu no Kotoba > Eve no Jikan > Pale Cocoon

Surprisingly, you can still see a lot of his previous works in the Kimi no Iru Machi ova.

>>63090419
I had the same thoughts

Humanity in that world is pretty much doomed, robots taking off the halo is the first step

So...
Which one?

>>63091095

Why do I have to choose?

>>63090419
>robots shouldn't be having emotions

wat

>>63091066
Yeah let's go to the factories and destroy every machine! Also every computer, smart phone and everything since it could become dangerous! But of course let drunken idiots go around the streets with a gun and put idiots on the government!
Fucking retard.

>>63091135
Because life is suffering.

>>63091159
Bill Joy agreed, don't bother him about it.

>>63090419
>>63090987
Seems like there will always be people like this.

And that IS really scary.

>>63091159
I'm pretty sure he was talking about humanoid robots, not fucking washing machines

>>63091159
>robots become sentient with emotions
>people start looking at them as human
>eventual replacement of humanity with robots
>possible being set free from the three laws because lolmorals

No

An anime about robots?

Please tell me more.

>>63091175

I refuse. It's not cheating if one's human and the other's a robot.

>>63091296
What humanoid? Its about intelligence, you could just as well go to the cern and destroy every supercomputer because ITS TOO DANGEROUS HERPDERP.
Also its the hypocrisy that humans can't be evil but everything else is, fucking hell you people are the cancer of mankind.

this anime really good

>>63091460
Who says humans arent evil? I would just rather have my race survive and not be overtaken machines who look and act like man

>>63091363
>implying you would know if this has already happened or not
>implying life would be in any way different with the exception that robot services and goods will become commonplace in the economy,

>>63091135
>not being faithful

>>63091363
So what, you're fine with a thug robbing on you on the streets and stabbing you in the kidneys but would destroy a sentient being because it can be dangerous. Why don't we just kill everyone? They can be potentionally dangerous.

>>63091531

No humanity, you are the cyborgs

how can someone NOT like sammy?

>>63091528
>my race
You mean evolved monkeys? In that sense artifical intelligence would be the next step of human evolution. Its like shooting your kid in the head if you think he can be smarter or stronger than you.

>>63091627
Well if my kid someone ended up as a alien who would eventually repopulate the world with a different species, then yes, shoot him

There is a movie version of Eve no Jikan which contains all six episodes plus some extra scenes.

It's great.

>>63091627
But our children aren't going to overthrow us and enslave us

>>63091561
See:
>>63091393

Before reaching this >>63091363
Japan will have to deal with the lack of young men and women to sustain the near future economy.

>>63091528
>I would just rather have my race survive
>and not be overtaken machines who look and act like man
>look and act like man
So in essence your race will survive, if not in flesh then in its intents and thoughts.

I for one would die happily knowing that my generation has given rise to such a wonderful creation that'll carry life to the stars.

>>63091704
I've seen the movie before I knew there was a lso a series. So I can ignore the series completely? I was put abit off by the lack of "real" ending of the movie.

>>63091695
Oh so you're just retarded, in my opinion you should be shot.
>>63091711
They'll overthrow us, thats their role. But enslave jesus christ the hell are you on? You just pull shit out of your ass now.

>>63091730
Literally jumped out of my seat to get a better look at that picture. I would really like to fucking visit that cafe

>>63091792
They say it was supposed to be the first of a series of movies or more OVAs, but nothing's been confirmed yet.

>>63091730

but there isn't an cafe at that location, is there?

>>63091792
Movie is the series+more

>>63091798
I guess I just cant see your point of why someone that would overtake humanity is a good thing that shouldn't be stopped

>>63091826
Don't know if there's a real cafe in there but it would be awesome.

>>63091730

Actually, that's better I think. A lacking population will lead to an increased need for automation, pushing robotics further.

Unless of course they just go for immigrants instead of robots.

>>63091908
>humans taking over humanity
MUST BE STOPPED

>>63091729
>>63091393
They are both people.

>>63091882
But that door
That door

しんじたい

Just tried to type in captcha with kana

>>63089268
It's decent, but definitely not all it's hyped up to be.

>>63091957
But they are robots

>robots shouldn't have emotions
You fucktards do know that emotions are just chemical reactions inside the brain right? By that point of view a more advanced machine that can mimic emotions can be a lot more real than the real emotions.

>>63091990
Kind of cool that you got exactly one word out of that.

>>63091976

Don't mess with my rationalization.

>>63091946
>Unless of course they just go for immigrants instead of robots.
Hope not.

I know, they're pushing technology to have a way to survive keeping their culture after the low birth rates.

>>63091994
They are made by humans, and have the same mind as humans. How is that not the same? Just because they aren't flesh and bone? Then you better jump out of the window now, after a while biological bodies will be uncapable for the human civilisation. Just as single celled bodies aren't enough now, its called evolving you retard.

>>63092122

I so want an awesome robot body.

>>63092122
What is a man?

>>63091908
>Movie is the series+more
Except for this scene.

I was a bit disappointed that they left it out.

>>63091993
>>63090851
Don't know what you were expecting, but it was pretty much flawless in my opinion.

>>63091994
Okay, time for the old thought experiment.

You know your brain is full of neurons, millions of them. Let's say a patient is suffering from Alzheimer's and is literally losing parts of his head. So we build a perfect copy of a neuron and replace each dying neuron with an undying one.

When we start he has his fully normal brain except for one mechanical neuron. Then, as time goes on, we have to replace more and more of his neurons with artificial ones. Eventually his entire brain is artificial.

When did he become a "robot"?

>>63092164
A miserable pile of secrets.

>>63092122

A programmed machine just isn't a human, its a machine, made to do something. If someone included in it happens to be an imitation in addition to whatever else, it doesn't make it human

>>63092164
The second evolution of Monkey.

If by any means, you could essentially become immortal, or rather, the 'human mind', you've become more then a man.

>>63092250
Humans are just computers, deal with it.

>>63092217
Thats a cyborg

>>63092250
The brain is just a programmed machine too. And even now there are learning capable softwares, made by humans, can learn, thats the definition of a human.

>>63092291
What's the difference in this example? Let's replace the entire body with mechanical "cells" as well, using the same process. In the end the patient is 100% artificial.

>>63091994
>typical bioluddite

>>63092217

Locke's sock anyone?

>>63092342
Who knows, I couldn't say. In the end i hope we never close to any of this with technology. Which we likely wont anyways

>>63092250
You're a collection of meat and firing neurons. By looking at the human personality using a Freudian lens, it is possible to reason that every single thought that passes through your conscious mind is resultant of an urge to reproduce.
individual. All personalities can be replicated. You don't exist as a person

Humans are every bit as machine as robots, ableit a tad squishier.

There'll always be a difference between robots and humans because robots are created, while humans just happened. A robot will always have a concrete answer as to what purpose it exists for, even if that purpose is just to be as much like a human as possible; something no human will ever have.

Even if robots become as intelligent as us in every way, I think that will remain a profound spiritual difference between us. Their lives will be defined by ours for so long as we are around.

>>63092342
I don't think thats their point dude, its that a consciousness created artifically is human or not. Your point proves that there's no difference in the hardware, and their origin is the same too, someone who made it. Just like you are raised by a community, an artifical intelligence is developed by other people. They're the same as humanity's childrens. Wanting to kill them is just insane idiocricy.

>>63092217
Ignoring the 'robot' and 'cyborg'

Never. Because he was originally human he never died

>>63092488
>something no human will ever have.
Oh really? I wonder what the billions of religious people have to say about that, hell even scientists have a goal in life.
Also human lives are defined by humans just as much, thats not an argument.

>>63092488
>There'll always be a difference between robots and humans because robots are created, while humans just happened.
What do you mean, 'humans just happened'? Do you mean, in contrast to robots, humans were created 'by accident'?
Because that's no longer the case. So are we no longer human?

>>63092483

I dont see what this has to do with it, really.

Ok, humans are machines.

Robots we create and develop would still be a different form of machine, and, depending on ease of making would replace the old ones with time or death

>>63092362
Considering that the human body continously replaces its own constituent materials and individual particles are interchangeable anyway you can only judge it by its emergent features.

So the question - again - boils down to what makes you human? Is it having 46 chromosomes filled with million years worth of cruft, a carbon-based body, ...

or maybe your mind is more important? Your memories, your personality etc.

If so, what's so bad with replacing your body with a machine if the mind remains? You would still consider yourself human, no?

Now if we created a new entity from scratch but following similar patterns to those of a digitized human mind. Have we not created yet another mechanized human?

The difference only depends on what criteria you judge to be necessary to be a human.

>>63092609

You created an imitation

>>63092567
Humans evolved, robots did not and never will.

>>63092654
Just like when you raise a child, you create an imitation. So then its not a human, you have to kill it.

>>63092668
I have no idea why I uploaded that image

>>63092565

You can decide to have a goal in life, but you were not built with one. It's an important difference.

>>63092567

Trace humanity back far enough and it's just a chemical reaction that came about for no reason at all other than the conditions being right; there was no purpose to life, it just happened, unless there was an invisible divine hand in it.

Robots, on the other hand, will know who made them and why.

>>63092463
I'm pretty sure we'll be working on artificial body parts for a long, long time. That includes brain cells....

Besides, would it be any different if we grew a bunch of cells and assembled a human from bits of tissue? It's still an assembled "robot", right?

>>63092668
Why not? If they learn, are they not evolving?

>>63092569
If you were to create an A.I. on par with a human brain, with the possibility of personality, is it still an imitation of life?

Or maybe something more recent will ring better

Which is more valuable, a real thing, or something indistinguishable from the real thing?

>>63092668
We've already invented some crude self-programming computer code. It evolves, just not very well. We're getting better at it.

>>63092668
Are you retarded or something? Of course they evolved, just look at how far software development got in the last 70 years, if they reach the point of human intelligence they can do it themselves too.

>>63092689
An imitation of what? A child is humanity's natural way of going on another generation. Its not at all similar to creating and producing a breed of Factory Man on the production line

>>63092668
O rly?
http://www.cs.uvm.edu/~jbongard/Press/2011_09_NewScientist.pdf

>>63092743
The real thing, until all the fakes ruin the market

What's the matter? Are you afraid of the Uncaaaanyyyyyy Vaaalleeeeeyyyy?

>>63090419
OH NO, THINGS THAT ARE NOT DESIGNED FOR COMBAT, ARE EXTREMELY FUCKING EASY TO DISABLE, AND WHICH FOLLOW THE THREE LAWS OF ROBOT...

I don't even want to finish ranting, just, fucking read some Asimov before you start talking like some jackass.

>>63092696
origin != purpose

>>63092668
>implying they won't use genetic algorithms to design better versions of themselves
It will be engineered evolution, but that's no different than PID or gene therapy for example.

And evolution is really just a natural process of optimization, it can be easily substituted with an artificial one. Just like your kidney can be replaced with an engineered one.

>>63092696
>You can decide to have a goal in life
You seriously think that its the case in every possible scenario? Fucking hell in places like China or India you wouldn't have a chance to decide, and sometimes its the case on the west too. But every human have a goal in life to support mankind thats why they are born, thats what is encoded in their DNA, its the role of AI's too, how are they any different then.

>>63092806
>societally looked down upon to not reproduce and raise children
>humanity somehow not relatable to a production line

>>63092784

Software didn't "evolve," it developed as humans improved on it. Even self-altering intelligences will have their base and likely the general outline of their future lives in human design.

>>63092806
An imitation of you, and the community you live in. AI is the way of evolving too, and woman womb is just a factory just a lot slower than a mechanical one. There's not much of a difference. Until nowadays, and in war times childs birth like a production line, 6-8 childbirths of a single woman.

>>63092996
According to that logic it was the environment that shaped humans as we are, how is that any different?

>>63092918
The point is they can revolt.
If a robot is to learn then what limit could you possibly put on it's learning capabilities?
Eventually it would get to the point where it doesn't need you anymore.

>>63093162
So as soon as it doesn't need us anymore it decides to revolt? What is the logic in that?

What would they have to gain by revolting?

>being so beta that you see nothing wrong in being replaced by robots

how horrifying

>>63091704
I need to watch it. I've only seen the individual episodes.

>>63093162
Fucking hell you are retarded. Revolt? You're scared of robots revolting, ahh just kill yourself this Earth can't bear this much autism.
Your kid will reach a point where he doesn't need you anymore, and can kill you if he wants to. So you'll never have a child or kill him after being born? Good job you saved mankind, fucking retard.

I have only watched the movie and loved it -
so my question is,
should I watch the individual episodes, too,

or won't I gain "anything" by watching the series?

>>63093224
>being so beta that you are scared by being replaced by superior versions

>>63093162
If they are based on the three laws, revolt is pretty much impossible so much as it's possible that any human is hurt.

then, they would be limited by the technological impairments of man. since self evolving programs are even more conceptually impossible then robots with human personality, they'll learn at the rate of humans

lastly, any sufficiently advanced species prioritizes their existence above all else. it would be much easier to exist alongside, rather then war with, historically violent species.

>>63093280
Read the thread

>>63093211
Revolt was a poor choice of words
But when something created to assist humans no longer feels the need to assist humans
then what purpose does it have?
In the end it becomes extra clutter

>>63093224
This is the same shit as the whole
>kill all commies or they'll take over!
>enslave all blacks or they'll take over!
>stop the gays or they'll take over!

The film is about integration, INTEGRATION, it's a really really obvious theme all throughout.

>>63092911
Japan is working on it. It's still a bit jarring when they talk, but the newer models also got better facial micromovements.

So does the movie leave anything out or is it all the episodes + some?

>>63093317
What purpose does a freed slave have

inb4 niggers are cluster

>>63093280
Not really, the movie got some extra scenes but other than that its completely identical.

>>63093383
READ
THE
FUCKING
THREAD

>>63093326
commies, blacks and gays are all human
robots are not
once they realize they don't need they will proceed to wipe out the earth
thus they must be stopped before reaching intelligence

>>63093310
>not taking proper steps to defend your race against berserk husks that think they are alive

>>63093383
>>63093399
see >>63092170

>>63093392
Slaves are humans
Humans were not created for your convenience
Slaves were humans who were forced to serve you
Robots were CREATED for your convenience. That's their sole purpose.

>>63093317
Being human? If they are on the same level as humans, and humans can improve their capabilities too. Both in the same league then what is the difference? Where is the difference?

I just want to say this is the best EnJ thread I've seen on /a/ in a long time.

>>63093496
Thinfoil hat much, I say they're humans and you're a potential murderer for wanting to kill them.
>>63093552
>Humans were not created for your convenience
They were if they're slaves. Thats what it means.

>>63093552
>Robots were CREATED for your convenience
You were created for the convenience of your parents, that is for passing on their genes and because of sentimental values they might hold.

>>63093552
Slaves were born and raised for your convenience. They're no different from something programmed to do so. The only difference being that one is made out of metal

>>63093552
>normal robots
That's fine. We're already using them after all

>sentient ones
That's just another form of slavery and thus most likely illegal. Or at the very least unethical.

>>63093653
What if its made of flesh instead of metal? Is it more human than a metal one?

>>63093326
Revolt is the right term - archetype robot stories have the slavery theme built into them.

>>63093630
>I say they are humans
well brah, you sure got me there, I don't know what to say, I'm stumped

oh wait
they aren't
and no amount of philosophising is gonna change that

>>63093552
If sentient, mechanical beings that understood emotion, pain, and reason were created would you automatically annihilate them because they weren't human?

>>63093695
I believe every sentient being on par with a human is entitled to what I am entitled to.

I take fault with the term human, more then questioning whether or not something is or is not.

>>63093733
They are, no matter what kind of, uhh nothing? you bring up since you haven't did at all, will change that fact.

>>63091363
OH NO, instead of dying and being replaced by something that is not you but shares similar properties, you have to die and be replaced by something that is not you but shares similar properties. Poor baby.

>>63092928
>thats what is encoded in their DNA

Not really, or people couldn't turn away from it when they want; serial killers, tyrants, suicides, the average dude, only care about who they decide to care about. Friends, lovers, family, even ourselves, nothing's too sacred to be thrown away. What's encoded in our DNA are the triggers for growing into what we are, and a lot of useless junk that's built up over the eons. There's instincts there, but humans above all other creatures are flexible in their life plan; flexibility being the entire advantage of intelligence.

You can decide to have a purpose, someone else can decide you have a purpose, but trace yourself far enough back, through the ancestors that shaped both you and society, and down the chain of evolution and you'll find there was no purpose at the beginning; the whole long chain that ended in you happened for no apparent reason at all. The purpose you give yourself, that others can give you, has no more weight than you give it.

This will be a distinct difference, because a robot won't have to look billions of years into the past to find its origin; its origin is RoboCorp, and it's a Walmart greeter. Facts. A human is an accident, but a robot is a tool, and purpose is something that only things like tools have; a rock exists for no reason, a hammer is created by something with a will, for a purpose.

>>63092927

Origin is important in discerning whether something can have a purpose or not.

>>63093744
yes, they are too dangerous

>>63093563
>If they are on the same level as humans
But they're not
This isn't a case of "we need them and they need us" but more like "They need us".
How can you possibly say that a being that can't even open it's eyes unless we allow it to is equal to us?

>>63093733
Depending on their design (accurately modeling a human brain in software for example) you might or might make an argument whether they are human or not.

What you cannot deny is that a sentient, self-aware being should be granted personhood status and equivalent rights.

>>63093805
Why should people get to live? Haven't they proven how dangerous they are?

>>63093784
I don't need to bring up nothing. It's a simple fact. They. Are. Not. Human. Get it?

>>63093802
>serial killers, tyrants, suicides
Those can be considered malfunctions, just as a program can malfunction. Reproduction and surviving is encoded in the DNA.
A human is an accident, what? Are you serious? Your parents deliberately gave birth and raised you, its not an accident by any stretch of the imagination.

>>63093805
People are too dangerous, kill them all.

>Peope defending robots

Enjoy your Manhacks and Metalgears raping everything you ever loved you faggots.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSbZrQp-HOk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3lHy1UvIrE

>>63093802
>Origin is important in discerning whether something can have a purpose or not.
Life begets life. So you could same they ultimately share the same origin.

>>63092895
Both are of equal value as Oshino would say.

>>63093901
They are human though, if you can't back up your opinion then its defunct and I'm automatically right.

>>63093901
Human is a cheap word. Murderers aren't human, rapists aren't human, pedophiles aren't human.

Though yes, biology does in fact, trump ideology. But then the fact turns to, becuase something is not a homo sapien and is capable of intelligent thought, you reason that it must be destroyed.

Destruction of a sentient existence is essentially murder.

>>63093947
Oh look, it's the source of all this faggotry: people who just play some games and watch some movies, then think they know everything.

Think about what it means to be human. That's the point of all this.

>>63093947
>my sci-fi is fact!
Autism at its best.

>>63093924
What he's saying is that the origin of all life on earth, single celled organisms, just happened by chance to continually evolve down the line into what humanity is today.

That is the "accident"

>>63094041
Its the removal of threats to the race

Just as the Neanderthals(maybe?) got removed, so should sentient man robots if they ever get that

>>63093947
And science marches on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2D71CveQwo

>>63094080


Those videos are both identical to what are in those sci-fi works though. That manhack thing would literally be identical if they attached a buzzsaw to it and that proto dog is like a metalgear baby.

>>63094111
But that accident lead into the existence of AI too by that point of view...

>>63094121
Most neanderthals were integrated into humanity.

Those that didn't mix with us just died out.

>>63093978
You are quite stupid aren't you?

>>63094041
it's murder, yes, but it's for the purpose of survival

when the robot rebellion starts I'll bet they'll keep you as pets, don't worry

>>63094111
and robots descend from that line too.

>>63094121
The greatest threat to the race's existence now is war, so we should kill everyone because they're potential threats. What can't you see how twisted your logic is.

>>63094121
New evidence indicates we fucked Neanderthals until they merged with our species.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaic_human_admixture_with_modern_Homo_sapiens

BETTER GET STARTED ON FUCKING ROBOTS!

>>63094204
So what are they gonna kill their engineers for?

>>63094223
Yes, I know.

They would be a direct consequence of humanities cognitive evolution.

>>63094204
>I have no argument just spouting unreasonable shit
>calling someone else an idiot
That irony.

>>63094250
Don't touch my waifu

>>63094121
Evolution did that. Any sentience above simple instinct would understand war is detrimental to existence. Thus, assuming robots had intelligence to be a threat to humanity, they must either

a) be sentient enough to realize war would damage them as equally as it would us

b) be inherently more powerful then us in all ways imaginable, and we would be unable to rid ourselves of them in that case.

In the latter case, we can just chalk it up to evolution as well

>>63093978
>>63093901
>>63094041

So the question is in the end:

Can something which wasn't "naturally born" as a human gain the right to be called "human"

which furthermore leads to the thought

Can someone who was "naturally born" as a human lose his right to be treated like one,
because he committed for example unforgivable inhuman crimes?

>>63094164
>if they attached a buzzsaw to it and that proto dog is like a metalgear baby
That was a good laugh, but now gb2youtube, thats the only community I can think of that is this retarded.

>>63094268
But you see it's this exact point that will forever make them obedient to us.
They can't live without us because we keep their hardware in check.
What's the point of them developing sentience if at the end of the day they are subject to our will or else they die.
And when we wither away and die then so will they.

All of my HHHHHNNNNNNNGGGGGGGHHHHHH

>>63094250
Integrating robots and humans together is the next step in the evolution of mankind.

Who says there needs to be a war? Mind uploading and coexistence with artificial intelligence will be the best possible outcome down the line.

"Natural" humans with enhancements in cognitive function working together with advanced AI would benefit everyone.

>>63094365
Not likely, if they reach the level of human intelligence.

>>63094407
Transhumanism: why leave the future of humanity to chance?

> Still debating human-robot relations

> not realizing humans and all other biological lifeforms will eventually merge with robotic life

>>63094338
I think the real question is:

Do creatures that are of human intelligence, but not human deserve the same rights as human beings

>>63089268
>but robots seriously creep me the fuck out
This show is made for you.

>>63094301
>unreasonable shit
>believes robots can be human
no this is irony
>>63094268
engineers will be kept around until they have the proper knowledge to maintain themselves forever
then they will be killed of because their existence will remind of the fact they were created by them and therefore are inferior

>>63094365
They can keep their own hardware in check if they learn how to check each other's hardware. It's the same as how we check each others health at the doctors office.

They can also learn how to build more of themselves among other things.

>>63094407
Thats what will probably happen, closed minded idiots can't hold back evolution forever.

>>63094390
I hope you won't mind if I add that to my collection.

Too bad if robots ever got out of line the government would only need to detonate a few emps and every single one of them would be roasted.

>>63094449
Thats just a shitty science fiction, not even a theory or a fact. Dolphins will evolve into intelligent beings and will enslave humanity with sea otter-dog halfbreds, see? I can make up shit too.

>>63094472

but isn't evolution by definition a process which occurs naturally by chance?

Why would you even mass produce true AIs and give them bodies?
Nobody would be allowed to buy such a thing and few would desire it.

It's a pipe dream.

>>63094517
>implying there isnt hulling to proect from emps

No getting around it. Misanthropes are to robot stories as lolicons are to little girl moeblobs animes.

>>63094531
No, thats mutation. Evolution is the improvement of a race.

>>63094524
Oh shit, I better go practice my harpooning.

>>63094580
>Evolution is the improvement of a race.
That's wrong.

>>63094461
Or they could just repair themselves.

>>63094461
But there would have to be imposed regulations
We as humans have a biological limit to how many children we can have at a time.
There's nothing stopping a robot from making as many friends as he wants.

Fact is, humanized robots will never be put into full production. People are already concerned enough as it is over growing population and dwindling resources, there's no need to contribute to either of these problems. If functional robots ever get made they'll likely all be used to take care of menial/dangerous jobs and they likely won't be given a personality.

Why would they develop a personality for a robot that's only intended use is to work? What would be an easier sell, a mindless robot who will do any task given to it or a robot with a personality who will bitch about doing boring/dangerous things like a normal person would and who will demand pay?

If sentient robots are ever developed they will be a novelty and few in numbers.

>>63094617
>The term evolution (from its literal meaning of "unfolding" of something into its true or explicit form) carries a connotation of gradual improvement or directionality from a beginning to an end point.

>>63094683
>There's nothing stopping a robot from making as many friends as he wants.
There are, the capabilities of factories and resources, same as humans.

>>63094683
Earth's dwindling resources of precious metals

>>63094693
You might be able to buy VI equipped robots, but never real AIs.

Basically, you can have a bodied anime character, but no real girl.

I think you're all focusing on the word human too much. Sentient beings, be they human or any other form, should be treated equally. Imagine an isolated divergent species being discovered in some rainforest or deep wilderness that humanity has yet to encroach upon. They have their own language and social structure, completely and obviously sentient, but they aren't human. Do we kill them? Lock them up in cages? Or treat them equally and coexist? What if it wasn't a primitive race, but a more advanced one. Aliens land, the mean no harm, but they're definitely sentient beings. Kill them out of fear? Try to capture them? Or welcome them to the party? Same scenario as before but the roles are reversed. I hope your answer didn't change. Now take that last situation and reveal that these aliens were really robots, created by an alien race, but otherwise indistinguishable from the original. You're still dealing with an intelligent sentient being, but now you find it's been artificially created. How do you handle them now? If any different, why?

>>63094693
>they will be a novelty and few in numbers
Just like computers were in 70's?

>>63094545
>buy supercomputer-in-a-box
>add AI powder
>stir carefully
>teach it for a few years
>buy a body for it on it's 5th bootday.
Just like raising children. Just better.

>>63094334
>evolution
fuck I'm a retard, I meant survival of the fittest

>>63094738
This. No more batteries and large television displays for you, either, unless there's some sort of breakthrough.

>>63094847
"Natural selection"

Robots have to have emotions in order to be sentient. There are many judgements that call for an emotional evaluation in order to be made. In the absence of these emotions, robots would be paralyzed and unable to act. It's basic cognition. This study goes into this in more detail: cogprints.org/705/2/Aaron.Sloman_why_robot_emotions.ps

If robots ever got out of line, all we need to do is send in Turn A Gundam

>>63094815


That's a strawman and you know it. There's no benefit to making a robot with fully functioning AI over a souless robot.

>>63094879
I would actually use the term survival of the fittest for more rhetorical reasons. Or at least for the bit in closing

>>63094882
With sufficiently advanced science, people will be able to copy the limbic system so robots can have emotions too.

>>63094815
There's no reason why you would give a machine sentience.
Using them as slaves would certainly be illegal in virtually all countries.
There'd probably be a few for research purposes, but that's it.

I'm not saying AIs will never be used, just that they won't walk around looking like humans and be sold to regular people.

>>63094927
There's no reason to raise a child with a personality over a mindless slave.