>>59639363
Thank god, some of the ideas were getting pants on head retarded.

>>>/v/
>>>/jp/
>>>/g/
>>>/b/
All these boards are better places for this crap.

>>59639363
Post-Apocalyptic VN > Revolutionary VN > Dystopian VN
In my opinion.

Dystopian and post-apocalyptic might have too muted or sparse interaction for galge format.

>>59639394
By giving him control of something they didn't consider relevant enough, then spreading the influence.

Say the guy is sorting electronic trash somewhere for the government.
Make him foreman.
Then leader of the district's garbage collection.
Etc.
>>59639286

All of my DESIRE.

>>59639479
cool story bro

>Revolutionary VN
coup d'état end when MC be the new leader, but alone

>>59639500

This. It seems entirely clear that pre-revolution is the ultimate setting for the ideas we've put forth. One of the main reasons being that we can EASILY incorporate the others ideas into respective endings.

>>59639363

My vote goes to the pre-revolutionary one.

Where the character is already part of a movement and somehow gets a leader role (I go for the all the old men die due to someone blowing the building where they were they were discussing something up).

I would also like the MC to be 25/30 instead of a 17 year old kid.

>>59639500
dystopian can be started in oppressive school. The most typical galge interaction format ever.

For Post-Apocalyptic, is it a water for sex kind of situation?

>>59639363
A little more detail.

Revolutionary would involve a nation (or maybe the world if we're really pushing it) undergoing some sort of massive political upheaval, where from this point on the direction of the nation could go anywhere. The MC in some way reaches a position where his decisions could influence or even outright decide the way the nation will go. And by the end he can support genderbent Yang Wen Li desire for democracy, join an anarchist terrorist group and shut down the Internet and all computers connected to it, seize power himself and establish a dictatorship (benevolent or otherwise), start a true meritocracy, implement Zero Requiem, etc. And each route will have a heroine representing the political stance he took, who may have influenced his ideals or been influenced by him.

Ideas are fucking easy, its actually writing/drawing them that's the problem.

Get some dedicated writefags first, then we'll talk

So MC starts off as the leader from the beggining...
I like it.

Ideas are the least important part of making a VN. Have fun with your projects that will be dead in 2 years.

>>59639594

Tripfags doing cute things.
I'm sorry for samefagging that one time ;_;

Revolutionary would basically be Code Geass.

post-apocalyptic would be STALKER and "hey, i have already seen this shit a thousand times"

My vote goes for Dystopian, but i'm up for revolutionary as well, if majority wants.

>>59639619
And the possibility of the MC being a Lelouch-class chessmaster was brought up.

>>59639629
>>59639633

Then give us an idea that would be worthy of our time

>>59639630
Today the student council tomorrow… the world!

GUYS

guys, listen to me

what about... GUYS LISTEN

what about a revolution in a dystopia?

>>59639545

The idea was for the girls to have the political convictions and the MC going for that ideal for the future of mankind.

>>59639693
I would rather people collectively put their effort into learning Japanese so they can translate Baldr Sky for me.

>>59639619
Some kind of preexisting rebel organization made up of different groups and factions all with their own ideals and goals and agendas united only by their desire to kick out the old men currently in charge? The rebels are already winning and will win no matter what (except in some kind of bad end) but MC's decisions and heroine choice determine which faction of rebels comes out on top over the others, communists, anarchists, aristocrats, fascists, democrats, republicans etc. and what kind of place the nation will be after the revolution succeeds.

>>59639693
If you want the project to go anywhere, you need to get musicians and artists on from the start, or you're going to be sitting there doing a lot of recruiting with no results. Compromise is your friend.

>>59639748
that sounds kinda interesting

>>59639738
that too

>>59639657
Agreed. Dystopia is a fresh setting.

>>59639738
A revolution in a dystopia, in a post apocalyptic world?

I would love to do a project like this but I'm only good at drawing male characters...

>>59639706
why are you saging

So mc could be some regular guy that just happens to be in a position of power for the wrong reasons, that´s when our political view shoujos try to use his to further expand their own agendas.

>>59639813
That's like betraying a faction in Fallout.

>>59639657
Revolutionary wouldn't necessarily be Code Geass because your heroine choice would determine the ultimate victor of the various political factions infighting within the rebels.

>>59639748
So wait, you mean like one of the girls would be named Marx and constantly go on and on about the glory's of COMMUNISM?

Perhaps if a rebel group exists initially, but when there is no publicly obvious turmoil? As in, shit is going down within government (Substitute whatever structure you want here, I guess), but as of yet, they have yet to make any world defining changes. Thus, this gives us a way of introducing the story AND time to let the MC make choices. Within this, if he chooses to just brush it off, he can end up with the heroine(s) who aren't particularly upfront about the war, or whatever it is. If, on the other hand, he decides to investigate more, make plans, etc, then he gets involved with the bolder heroines, and it branches off from there. Effectively two 'main' routes, but each with x amount of 'sub routes' for the heroines.

All ideas sound like "Trying too hard: the VN" to me. We should go with something simple, but intriguing and with strong characters to drive the whole thing. Political plots are like fucking sleeping pills in a VN and amateur writers can't pull that stuff off anyway.

>>59639860
And in the end, when it's all over, with certain heroines the MC actually takes charge and wins over the heroine, and with others the MC was nothing but a puppet?

>>59639843
Most of you should be using nokosage so the thread isn't flooded with people from the front page.

>>59639799
in my experience, once a project picks up with art and writing, musicians come flocking

My vote would go to the Dystopian VN, since that seems to have the most potential. But why not combine a few, since all of the ideas are pretty much closely related.

>>59639594
You are female and have to fuck lots of burly men for protection and influence in your local community.

>>59639897
Do you know how hard it is to gather a sufficiently large and popular rebel group together when there is no politically obvious turmoil? Unless you mean a very small group who knows what's going on and has no popular support, and at one point in the story shit seriously goes down and they gather support then.

>>59639693
They just said that ideas are worthless, what the fuck is wrong with your reading comprehension.

We need DRAFTS, not this stupid hurrr durrr so like, this guy does this thing and we have these waifus and it's kawaii hurrr

There needs to be some drafts that have a scene already written out, a script. You don't spend hours thinking about the PREMISE, the premise is supposed to come naturally from the script. You NEED

Writers
Artists

These threads are worthless without these two. It's just a whole bunch of people bored and wasting time, very similar to how a group of friends just talk when they're drunk/high.

>>59639901

There was an idea of the MC finding a random girl who talks of a promised city and when they get there they get to life in this 'promised' city but the things there aren't as great as the girl was speaking of. This would be relatively easy to pull of since you can easily start with the dude and girl talking about what happened before and how they ended up with where they are.

>>59639969
Jeanne tripfag has volunteered to be a writer, and he has the capability to recruit history and polisci majors, apparently.

>>59639965

Size is irrelevant at the start. All we really need is politcally motivated heroines. Because lets face it, regardless of the story, it's being written for the girls.

>>59639901

I'm sorry to say this, but this /a/non has it right.
I don't mean to jinx this or anything, I've witnessed and even participated on enough failed projects to know where this is headed with the direction the ideas we're having here are taking.

Are people actually willing to work on this or is this just another 'wouldn't it be cool if __' thread?

>Revolutionary VN
>Where your heart will choose the fate of a nation.

>Choose communist girl
>Liberty Prime-chan goes into yandere mode
>"Better dead than red"
> Tyrannical ascend to power and then sets out to hunt down any and all commies.
>The climax ensues as you try to save yourself and your commie girlfriend from Liberty Prime-chan's army in a bloody civil war.
>Communist Revolution good end.

>>59639907
That would depend on the shoujo´s political view, more power grabbing view shoujo´s would just try to use him at the beggining, and then begin to warm up to MC... Or just discard him as the useless puppet he turned out to be.

I liked the 4chan based VN idea.

Pre-Revolutionary setting sounds like it's trying to go for LOGH levels of political discussion.

>>59639920
I threw musicians in because that's not a skill as easily learned.

I guess I might as well copy what I sent to Jeanne about the Post-Apocalyptic VN:
Setting: Post WW3 America
Characters:

MC: A high school student(or at least he would be). Hasn't seen his parents since the war.

Bro: A class A jackass. He would rape a woman if given literally half a chance. Unfortunately for him, every girl in this setting is armed to the teeth and as paranoid as fuck (secretly lost his wife and daughter during the war)
Had a suggestion to switch MC and Bro’s roles


At the start of the game, MC and bro are traveling together when they encounter, the main female group.
Tsundere: Age:17 Cusses a LOT. Drinks and smokes all the time. (was held as a sex slave for several years after the war. Spends most of her route convinced MC is going to rape her)
Quiet Girl: Age:Unknown Genetically altered super-solider. Almost never talks or show emotion, even about killing (during her route she realizes that murdering people is wrong. And she’s killed hundreds. Then has a MASSIVE breakdown.)
Tomboy: Age:22 The broest girl you will ever meet. A former Air force officer. Has been traveling with the quiet girl since the end of the war. (Was commander of a missle silo on zero day. Feels VERY guilty about it.)

>>59639658
I brought up a point against that in th elast thread

Did Lelouch stop the anime and ask "Hey you, the one sitting on your chair, what should I do here?"

MCs need to have a degree of ignorance so that the player can self-insert and make the choices. If there's a chessmaster MC, not only would it require writing skill that demands to stay ahead of the reader, it only hinders the MC.

I got an idea. It can be revolutionary in a dystopia.

The series starts out with the MC stepping on a landmine. His heart is pierce by shrapnel. The only hope for living he has is extensive treatment at a hospital/school for the crippled. There he meets various girls that will change his outlook on the ongoing revolution.

We shall call it... Watawa Shoujo.

>>59640052
That's how KS got started.

Might motivate a few people to get dedicated to an idea if we're lucky.

>>59640068
If you choose to make a 4chan based VN, not only will you be fucking yourself down the road literally, you will also be fucking yourself down the road over the fact that 4chan is the only real audience of such a VN and more than likely no one will like it.

new random idea:

The world is set in a good future where no wars or big issues exist. Humanity has no serious weapons because the galaxy has no other intelligent life.

Aliens mysteriously invade from other dimension.

Mc from 21th century is awoken from a cryostasis cell because he remembers a violent humanity. Put into school to learn about the new world and also help out human scientist with weapon creation.

He instead enlists his schoolmates to take over the world AND defeat the aliens in the process.

...kinda?

I like the revolutionary idea the best. Seems like the premise here is that each girl represents some kind of political faction. Anarchism, communism, fascism, and so forth. Right?

I'm an author and I'd be willing to contribute to this project.

VN Requires:

Game Engine
Programmers
Writers
Drawers
Video Editors
Location Scouts
Music Composers
Editors
Quality Control
Testers
Lead Director

This is probably just the barely the essentials needed to even get started. Find these people before you even carry on with the ideas.

>>59640192
oh and he's young adolf hitler.

>>59640221
>Testers
I got you bro.

>>59640138
Player choices can handle the MC's shifting ideals and heroine interactions. Actual chessmaster stuff can be handled by the MC himself (like in Majikoi).

>Post-Apocalyptic VN

>>59640023
I like this as the opening tutorial to the world.

MC's older brother is in Militia/Guerrilla who opposes MC's side
and the new technology is based on Tesla technology

>>59640192
I think we've already decided to go with one of the ideas in OP's post.

>>59640068
>4chan based
Don't take it personally babe, it just ain't your story

>>59640221

>Location Scouts

>>59640221
Half of those wouldn't even do anything.

Six people is more than enough for a full blown free roam 3d game, don't go telling me I need a crack team to display text on the fucking screen.

>>59640221
>Music Composers
>Drawers
>Video Editors
I can supply these if need be.
I can also double as a writer/editor, and quality control if I need to.

>>59640221

You can't really expect to form a whole team before working on the ideas, at least not on 4chan.
Granted, it's the reason so many projects here end up never going anywhere, but a 4chan project can only move forward if there's an idea interesting enough that it attracts the needed team members.

>>59640221
>he thinks that one person can't do multiple things
Also, most programming is done if renpy is used.

>>59640221
Lead - Jeanne
Code - Hion
Characters - Cooper
Setting and Plot - Gold
Art - Veronyak

Is what I have worked out so far for main roles.

>>59640328
hell one person is enough. It sounds unthinkable because we're all between 15 and 25 on here.

I could do a VN by myself with stock music if it wasn't for the workload.

>>59640316

If you want to go draw all backgrounds from scratch, be my guest.

You will need to take plenty of photos for ideas for backgrounds, locations, inspirations, tracing, references, etc. These people are needed.

Politics might be too much to include in a VN about romancing waifus or whatever.

Maybe something more light. Like the MC is from the future and get a time machine for one reason or another. He travels to the 19th century and gets stuck there because he fucks up the machine.

So he seeks out the greatest minds of the time in hopes of finding a solution. But he finds out they are all girls and take it from there.

>>59640109
>Unknown Genetically altered super-solider.

no
make her a normal girl
shes just quiet because of some childhood trauma

>>59640283
I saw your response in the last thread, but just because Majikio pulled it off does not guarantee it will be pulled off successfully again.

>Revolutionary VN
Sengoku Rance

>Dystopian VN
Sharin no Kuni

>Post-Apocalyptic VN
Baldr Sky

Will our story contain dead ends/bad ends? Because I like those.

>>59640398
True, especially if Renpy is used. It's fucking easy, I just don't know how to draw.

I actually really hate these threads. Why not make a normal VN and see if you can even accomplish that. A bunch of users from 4chan who distanced themselves couldn't even get a coherent consistent quality VN about cripples.

So for the revolutionary idea...

Let's talk character design, shall we? The characters should be drawn according to the route they represent. The main character, for example, should be a sort of bland everyman. Something easy to identify with. This'll make it easier for players to empathize with the main character. If you make his character too unique, people won't be able to identify as readily with him. Of course, you could have his character design change over the course of the game, depending on what route you're on.

I said that in the last thread already, but why don't we think about the characters before we think about the setting? What kind of girls do we want in a VN? What kind of MC do we want? What makes the characters interesting? These questions are much more important than the setting, which acts ultimately just as a background for the character interaction.

>>59640454
a VN with actual conflict? It MUST have bad ends. Gruesome and heroine-killing bad ends.

Whats the best irc client? I'd like to chat with you guys.

If women represent political ideologies, I think that they need to be characters instead of an idea incarnate. The characters need to HAVE the ideas, not BE the ideas.

>>59639776
And the reason the MC reached such an influential position within the organization was because the different factions could trust him to be impartial and not favour one over the other, but now the end of the war is in sight and sooner or later one will have to win out?

>>59640383
I sure hope Cooper, Gold, and Veronyak are taking a break from fapping and actually writing out scripts/drawing drafts and thinking about themes and arcs, and that you told them that, or else this is a failure in the making already.

>>59640572
Gold here.
I'm currently brainstorming.

>>59640556
And finding the reason they bear those ideals is part of the romantic development.

We can do all three. There's hundreds of people browsing this board

is there a irc channel for the post apocalyptic vn, btw?

>>59640383
Anyone have a picture of Veronyak's art?

>>59640328
>>59640398

Theoretically 6 people can do it. But it took 5 years for KS with a team of 20+ people.

Schedules will conflict. Tasks can be a hell more than one expect. It's even more important to have a project lead to delegate tasks and keep people in line. Organization is needed above all.

You guys are underestimating how much effort it takes to make something simple.

>>59640383

Hi Jeanne. I'm a writer who would like to contribute to this project. But no matter what my commitment ends up being, I'd like to make a note about how I think this should be handled.

Whether it's post-apocalyptic, pre-revolutionary, or dystopian, the world this game takes place in is going to suck, right? So I hope the game will reflect that. Characters should be dying. Getting imprisoned. Generally having a shitty time. For every good ending, there should be a bunch of endings where your chosen girl gets killed, or you get killed, and so forth. And even the "good" ends should be pyrrhic victories.

Basically what I'm getting at is, it should be depressing as fuck. It should be like The Road in VN form. Once you start, you don't WANT to continue because it's so gut-wrenching, but you HAVE to. And at the end there is no rainbow, no ride off into the sunset, the story just stops, and you're left feeling empty inside.

Do something like this. Really shake up the very concept of the VN. Do something... revolutionary.

>>59640604
Now whittle down how many of those people are motivated enough to not ditch. Whittle that group down to people with actual talent.

Artfag here, going through ideas for costumes. Got one down for the main girl.

In order to appease all fetishes, I've replaced clothes for straps.

>>59639619
>Genderbent Yang Wenli
Sounds like a nice idea for a "Democracy' side heroine.

>>59640505
And I already responded to you in the last thread that both top-bottom and bottom-top approaches are fine and it doesn't have to be one way or the other. You do not write down who you want to be and then wake up and act it out. Your environment and decisions eventually make you, you.

Writer here, I've already come up with a few character idea's that could be used in all 3 of those ideas. Still fleshing them out and will share later.

This will be a deconstruction of the VN genre...

>>59640754
Cool.

>>59640645
I concur.

>revolutionary

>>59640645
even during stalinism or nazism many people didn't have "bad lives". The "bad" in society was whspered in bars or during casual meetups. Revolutions were planned in basements, while people cheered for the dictators one meter above.

>>59640645
So the title of the VN is now officially REVOLUTIONARY
Right?

>can love bloom

>>59640778
So, are you doing Revolution, Dystopia, or Apocalypse? Since you have people working on it already, you know what we're doing, right?

Looks like it's hopeless. A few people ITT are too stuck up on their ideas, so let's give them a week or two to fail and we can start again, hopefully brainstorming better initial ideas.

Those all sound dumb

I took part in several VN projects, in this board and /jp/

in every case, everyone lost interest one or two weeks later and disappeared. I'd like to help but how do I know you guys won't do the same?

Totalitarianism side like Latveria

Anarchy-chan, put some clothes on for the love of god!

Make the 4chan House a VN. I would play that game.

>>59640539
>>59640539
>>59640539
>>59640539
>>59640539

Timeskip characters?

>>59640990
For you, mirc.

>>59640930
You don't know. But if you want to do this, it's worth the risk, isn't it?

>>59640930
with no risk there is no profit

>Post-Apocalyptic VN

If you do this, I'll be expecting too much from it. I'll be expecting you to make me cry as much as Planetarium. Bring it.

>>59640930
The only way to know is to get people involved, get them to work doing something they enjoy, and then lock them in and guilt them into staying around when they're doing something they don't.

Just sayin'
WH40K is already all three of these at once. Well, maybe not revolutinary. Revolutions tend to have rather short lifespans.

I'd like a VN which takes place on an anonymous imageboard.

You can choose which threads to browse, you can make replies to posts, but since everyone is anonymous you can only tell the heroines and a bunch of normal posters apart based on their writing style.

If you manage to get close to one of them, you may catch their interest and they may give you additional info, in which case you get to communicate per e-mail with them or something, get more personal info on them, etc.

And in the end it turns out all the female heroines were the same person. A 41 year old fat neckbearded basement dwelling virgin and the moral of the story is: there are no girls on the internet and you should never give personal information of yourself away.

>>59640868
The majority of people have agreed to do a revolutionary setting.

Occupy Wall Street V/N?

>>59641058
HOH DESIRE

>>59641138
Do you guys have a chat up or something where you're discussing it?

>>59641144
>>59641099
Those comics...

>>59639545
Let's just make a doujin type VN eroge about Lelouch. Everybody loves him.
Of course there's a Suzaku route.
And a Rolo ero scene.

>>59641138
Alright.

Anyone in this thread want to form a second group to work on the post-apoc VN? We can work in parallel

>>59641175
No, but we should really get an IRC going. #Revolutionary or something.

>>59640876
writer/editorfag from last thread. I warned an anon that they need to have someone to shoot down ideas and tell people to shut the fuck up and do what they need to do. If they do not have the interest or motivation to self-police themselves to meet deadlines or at least chat about their progress, they shouldn't have a place in the team. This isn't pussyfuneveryonefeelsgoodaboutthemselves time.

>>59641175
No, it's e-mail for now until someone makes an IRC. I'm not very fond of chats myself.

>>59641153
You're looking at it.

calling it now
military dictatorship-chan is best girl

>>59641248
I agree with >>59641242. I'm not a fan of chats either, but I think if we plan to do this, we'll need an IRC or something like that. We need the basics before anyone can start with concept designs or conceptual anything, really.

HEY

HEY, LOOK HERE.


Japan makes VN's. Notice how they mostly have large teams of people working on it? Ever wonder why? Because it takes ALOT of fucking time, resources, planning, etc to make one. You are a bunch of faggots spread across the globe. You are not pros at this. At all.

1-6 people? Are you fucking kidding me? KS had 20+ people, and it took them 5 years. It still is not consistent in art, still has problems with pacing in certain routes, still is lacking interactions, etc.


I'm not saying it cant be done, but stop underestimating it. It was a miracle that we lazy faggots managed to produce KS.

>Revolutionary VN/Dystopian VN
Oh dog, do want

"Exitus Acta Probat: the Outcome Justifies the Deed." -Dictum Vindicare

The Vindicare creed is that enemies of the Imperium of Man die ignoble deaths. No trials for these heretics, no recognition of any ability they hold, not even a record of their order to be killed. A quick, surgical procedure; a reflexive, impassive reaction to eliminate an enemy that leaves behind only the slightest of blemishes, soon to be hushed up and covered for fear of prompting more invisible, bureaucratic executions. Traitors and rebels may gird themselves for the unlimited waves of guardsmen crushing their towns underfoot, continent-disintegrating orbital bombings, and fearless, unstoppable, merciless space marines. Yet how they quail when, oh-so-casually, their honored leader, prophet, demagogue, idol, chosen one, noble general, great hero, neighbor, friend, mother, father, child, or beloved falls lifeless, a round dark hole in their forehead.
"Do not fail."
Most munitions that this assassin had dealt with previously have been subsonic: quiet, subtle machines that are expected to be kept hidden and assembled on site. Other dogmas stated that all weapons had to be popular with those populations that were to be affected, to show the Emperor's judgment came from the people.
And then there was the Exitus rifle.
Tough enough to break a terminator's Tactical Dreadnought Armor, quiet enough to not wake the baby you are using for a fire brace. It is immense, huge and unwieldy, one-point-eight-seven meters long when deployed, nearly as tall as the man carrying it, and weighing eight kilograms unloaded, a full nine loaded.
"One shot is all I need."

>>59641312
when a team of interested people is made, there needs to be some restricted brainstorming to give each other ideas and streamline expectations.

>>59641245

Listen to this man.

>>59641350

spoilsport. help out or fuck off.

>>59641350
Let them learn the hard way, it's for the better.
>>59641245
I like you.

>>59641350
It took them 5 years because of drama and team members quitting, forcing the rest of the team to re do a lot of shit over and over again.
if we start working now we can get a 5 min demo out by this saturday.

anyway if anyone's interested in the post-apocalyptic story, give 10 mins to set up a irc c

>>59640221
I seriously hope you're not implying that these should all be separate people. That many people for a project where all cooperation happens online and no one is truly accountable for anything, would be complete chaos. And if you're serious about those plurals.. That would be a nightmare.

I wouldn't mind contributing as a developer in case you were interested in adding maybe a tactical/strategic layer to the whole thing.

e.g. what I kinda missed in Majikoi for example was that the game made most of the tactical decisions to me, during the war for example - things like that could have been handled by the player, in some sort of strategy game.

Practically, I'd be thinking of something like Utawarurumono, where the VN is maybe at times interrupted by some squad tactics game, or perhaps having take things take place at an even larger scale, akin to Rance where general strategic decisions are made.

This can theoretically be developed separately from the VN though, and only later included.

>>59641350
You're right.
But it's worth a try, and I think with enough time, we can get something fantastic out there.
If we fail, then we fail. Oh well. At least we tried.

Drawing kids aren't my strong points.

>>59641479
>Drawing isn't my strong point.
ftfy

Now that I seem to be in charge of characters, I guess its to for me to take up a tripname.

My ideas for characters are:
Communism-chan
Democracy-chan
Dictatorship-chan
Anarchy-chan

>>59641350
>Tsukihime
>Fate
>Umineko
>Higurashi

inb4 babby's first VN
try again, faggot. As long as a VN has a good story (one writer who isn't shit), then everything else is second.

can't help but feel this is being done backwards, no one played Katawa Shojo for the plot, they played it to fuck cripple girls only to find that it also had an enchanting plot. You should focus on the characters and then develop the plot around them, if they're interesting enough then the plot will write itself

>>59641479
Can you do colouring work?

>>59641583
A name is acceptable, but do not avatarfag.

>>59641583
Add theocracy-chan to that list. She is already my waifu.

Even if you don't like them, it's in your best interests to use an irc channel. Just having people idle around is a good reminder of work to be done.

I go to eat something
I dont know how help in this proyect, but if you need help from some people, here I am

good luck

>>59641479
Unless that's a sketch (and even then), that's not skilled enough for a big project.
I'd like to join after at least two years of training.

Oh, well. I've tried to offer my wisdom, but I guess this one was not meant to be.

Of course I could be wrong, but this soon into the endeavor, this project already has all the signs common to most failed projects. I've witnessed it happen way too many times. But I guess I'll offer one last word of warning, just for the sake of it.

Jeanne, I know nothing of you or your commitment to working on this, but with the way you're handling things right now, and the direction you're taking the story idea, you're setting yourself up for failure.
It's important to understand the strengths and limitations of the group of people you're working with (/a/), and I don't think you're giving that any heed.

I don't mean to pick favorites or anything, but I still stand by my word: if any of these ideas has any potential of actually going somewhere as a 4chan project, it would most likely be the post-apocalyptic STALKER one.

alright, chat.mibbit.com #the_road for the post apocalyptic story.

>>59641629

I was thinking the same exact thing. Christian fanatic who's really very doubtful and just following in her zealot preacher father's footsteps.

>>59641602
The approach for any project can be done in many way. Of course, the things that the developers see as important should come first.

>>59641710
I like that idea.

>>59641462 here
I guess you should get the general concept done first and then we can see whether something like that fits in the game.

Developing a simple 2D game engine for some sprite-based squad tactics shouldn't take too much work after all; I'm quite certain there are enough open-source engines which already handle most of the necessary functionality.

More work would go into assets, and there one has to see whether there is enough time to add something like this and how the game progresses.

So I guess you get things started first and then consider whether the inclusion of such a "game" aspect would take too much effort, for the inclusion itself wouldn't take too much effort.

>>59641602
I tried telling them that already, but apparently no one cares.

>>59641671
>mibbit

Why would you do that?

Someone set us up #Revolutionary

>male Hanako

>>59641741
because it works
we can always move somewhere else later

the goal is to get a short demo (5 mins) done by this weekend

>>59641831
>the goal is to get a short demo (5 mins) done by this weekend
That's absurd.

>>59641710
Done. That gives us 5 characters. I think any more is a bit much.

Communism-chan
Democracy-chan
Dictatorship-chan
Anarchy-chan
theocracy-chan

>>59641720
No, unless you have some extremely talented writers on board, you always want to start a VN with the characters and not the other way around.

>>59641826

Have you contributed to the board-tans? Your style seems familiar.

>>59641350
Actually, I would argue the exact opposite.

The vast, vast majority of doujin circles making VNs are tiny. Sometimes it's just one single guy who does most of the work and seeks out some help with stuff like art, music, voices, etc (it helps that it's much easier to find these in the Japanese communities).

You're mixing professionally developed VNs with this, which is a completely different story. They're made by actual developers who are working full-time on the project, are kept on a leash by their boss, and actually get to sit together in the same office building while working on their project. You can't compare that to picking up 20 random people from /a/ and hoping everything works out. By the sound of it, that's part of the reason KS took so long to make in the first place.

>>59641831
You.. You cannot possibly be serious.

>>59641857
What about Oligarchy-Tan?

>>59641854
It isn't. have you ever used ren'py?

>>59641857

Dictatorship-chan should be fascism-chan. They should all be espousing an actual political ideology.

Is there a chat or something going on? >>59640645 here and there's a lot of ideas I have brewing in my head which I'd like to discuss in detail.

>>59641857
What about a character who wants the elimination/reduction of technology to reduce society into a more primitive form, thinking that technology causes the worlds problems?

>>59641831
>we can always move somewhere else later
That's a good one

>>59641831

>>59641901
>I think any more is a bit much

>>59641918
>Anarchy-chan

>>59641918
Amish-chan? I don't like it.

>>59641907
It's absurd because it implies you'll be able to have a vision of where your VN is going by the weekend. You'll have characters, setting, and a plot. It's completely absurd.

>>59641647
What I've been posting are quick 2-5 minute sketches.

>>59641603
I don't colour often. Usually flat colours or cellshading.

>>59641907
Good luck coming up with even a few decent characters by this weekend.

>>59641967
You don't need all of that for a 5 min demo.

Seriously, It's like no one in this thread has ever watched Welcome to the NHK

>>59642036
Yeah, you do.
Otherwise, you threw shit together and said "I made something completely unrelated to my project!"

I guess this got big because KS just released, right?

Almost all the well-known dystopian novels involve a love plot. If you don't want to be cliche as hell, don't fucking make it the plot centerpiece.


How about:

>revolution that overthrows a dystopic regime
>post-revolution anarchy as citizen militias fight for power
>the old regime isn't completely dead, waiting for the right moment to reassert itself
...
>MC is a former administrator for said regime in hiding with conflicted feelings of guilt and fear
>pushed into political intrigue after a fanatical revolutionary threatens to blackmail him if he doesn't consent to help in plot
>the revolutionary wants MC to aid him in an assassination plot against the former head of state
>drama ensues as the poor schmuck has to deal with threat and manipulation from everyone around him
>can either aid the old regime in reasserting itself or help the assassination
>but the moment he stops being useful to any of the groups, he's as good as dead

Well? Actually, this was a plot to a unfinished play of mine. It was supposed to be Kafkaesque, but it doesn't have to be

>>59641907
So you want characters, character designs and backgrounds done by this weekend. Haha oh wow.

I almost want you to succeed just so I can see what kind of pile of deviantart worthy shit you'd have to churn out to make that kind of deadline.

>>59641967
You can make a demo with just a basic idea, and refine it later. It's not like anyone will care that the real thing doesn't match the demo perfectly.

Besides, it's clear that the main point of such an exercise would be to motivate the team by showing them that they can actually make something playable.

>>59642217
But then what is the point in making the demo? If you are so impatient that you MUST have something playable after 5 days, how do you expect to stick with this for possibly even years?

>>59642041

>Seriously, It's like no one in this thread has ever watched Welcome to the NHK


Faggots from /v/ dont watch good shows.

>>59642217
The thought of putting together a 5 minute demo is not unreasonable, it's your supposed deadline that is utterly ridiculous.

>>59642259
Only faggots watch anime
real man read manga

GUYS

GUYS I FUCKING GOT IT

THE PROLOGUE IS ABOUT A GENERIC ASS FUCK MC WITH A HAREM OF WOMEN IN A JAPANESE HIGHSCHOOL

BUT AFTER THE PROLOGUE YOU PLAY AS HIS QUIRKY BEST FRIEND

AND THE GOAL IS TO GET ALL OF THE GENERIC BETA HAREM PROTAG'S BITCHES

>>59641874
Nope. The last time I've drawn for a board was a while back with TF2 drawings on /v/.

Some ideas about a revolution in a dystopia since I got a flash of inspiration:

MC should be in his 20's or 30's and in university with conscription done. Otherwise he is going to be a shitty leader or Yet-Another-Teen-Genius MCXXVIII. Good majors for him would be history (lots of general knowledge about how the world works, but not as much pressure from the government as PolSci students would be under) or chemistry (McGuyver and bombs, duh) I think.

MC's male best friend would be pretty deep in the revolution business and the MC has been his hideout guardian/leaflet spreader/what have you a couple of times. Thus the MC too knows some revolutionaries by name. However he has not yet got himself actively tangled with the revolutionaries.

Girl A would be MC's research partner or something like that. A democrat who works in a different cell than MC's best friend, her route would involve academia, middle-class and lots of wheeling and dealing with the potential turncoats amongst the government's ranks.

Girl B would be some sort of tsundere-ish communist who is the strategist of MC's BF's cell. Working-class, her route would involve lots of glorious communism liberating the poor and downtrodden labourers and putting the bourgheoisie pigs into their place.

Girl C would be a pretty neighbour. Basically a cowardly (so to speak) deredere who would like to just cuddle quietly with the MC until shit calms down. Her route would be basically a love story and survival as MC tries to balance between his girlfriend's insistence that Revolution will eat its children and his best friend's wish to join him in his struggle.

Girl D would be a middle-class fascist who is a professor's daughter or something like that. Her route would involve a palace coup against the government.

Other girls, like the theocracy one could be added.

My two cents just before going to sleep.

>>59642104
Sounds well to me since it gathers all of the wanted things in one set.

>>59642317
and REAL men read the novel

>>59642259
Welcome to the NHK is about a deluded NEET, not an actual conspiracy.

>>59642286
well, the Moetron team got a demo done in 2 hours a few months back.

>>59642370
Then what is the guy who makes the novel?

/a/'s definition of "visual novel" - some /b/tarded porn fic and deviantart sewn together in galge format using a python script, and given both a blog and endless threads on the japanese anime and manga board, the video game board AND the DEDICATED J-GAME board on 4chan, all the way from concept stage to release.

Because fuck anime, amirite?

Oh well, still beats endless bloggy depression / "crushing loneliness" junk threads of the kind that even grossed moot the fuck out, I guess, except of course you fags fold that crap right in to VN discussion as well.

>>59642253
I don't see why a little extra motivation would be a bad thing. It sounds much better to start with a "alright, we can do this, guys!", than a "no, stop implying we'll be able to actually finish this project, we don't know for sure yet!".

I am gonna be honest, off the heels of KS, there will hopefully be some start up VNs.
Many will inevitably fail, but there will be a few that get released.

And as interest in western VNs can build up, we can truly enter a golden age.

>>59642379

>deluded NEET

this is exactly why it's relevant

>>59642402
Japanese and wealthy.

>>59642421
Have you actually played KS?

Hey, Jeanne, you should set deadlines for some of your team. Nothing big, but maybe "I'd like if you could get me an outline for a few of your ideas/sketches by Friday" or something.
Also, the character designer and artist need to be in contact.

>>59642356
Heh, I just hope it interests people enough to consider writing about it. Hard to tell with /a/ sometimes

>>59642459
I chuckled.

>>59642461
Don't respond to trolls

>>59642104
While that's a bit DEEP, what if the MC works for the government as a minor functionary? He gets captured and agrees to/is coerced into helping the revs by being the inside man? Makes him important but still 'small' enough to be sympathetic.

>>59642459
That was funny, congrats anon

what do you guys think of this?

http://db.tt/RvG8yuc5

>>59642104

This sounds very interesting.

>>59642344
Good ideas, heres some of mine

Communism-chan
Youngest in a family of 5 sisters, she believes in sharing everything. Very, VERY tsundere Has red hair.

Democracy-chan
Comes from a rich family. Slightly naive, seems good-hearted, and mostly is, but has a dark side. Has blonde hair.

Writerfag here again. Since there's no chat, I guess I'll share my idea of what the general structure might be for the game.

Basically, there would be three sections each separated by a timeskip.

You start out as a student at an elite university. One of the best universities in the world. And it's fairly standard galge stuff. You can meet all the different girls and start down whichever route you want to, by getting involved with the campus groups each girl part of. You can be a college communist, or a member of the campus church group, and on and on.

You get very close to your chosen girl during the university phase, but she seems to reject you at the last minute. You graduate and figure you'll never see her again.

Timeskip. You're not a promising, up and coming intellectual. Depending on your chosen route:

>Communist-Chan: you're a well-respected author of radical literature who tours the country speaking at college campuses
>Theocracy-chan: you're the heir apparent to the pastor of the largest megachurch in the country, an energetic young fire-and-brimstone preacher man
>Fascism-tan: you work for a hyper-conservative thinktank in Washington, DC
>Democracy-chan: You're a congressional aide.

These are all tentative, obviously, but the idea is that the MC's chosen career will bring him into contact again with the chosen girl, this time in a professional capacity. You get close, again, and again, she rejects you at the very last minute and you part ways.

Timeskip. The economy has collapsed, the world is in the shitter, and factions are vying for control of the country. You get involved with some radicals, move up in the ranks, and find out to your mutual surprise that the girl you've chosen is the shadow leader of that faction. You help her with the revolution, and finally, if you get the "good" end, she doesn't reject you this time.

>>59642379
It's also about a couple of losers who make a VN.

I'll be honest, just from reading the summaries of these plot ideas about revolution and politics and whatnot I already want to press the skip button.

>>59639363
>Post-Apocalyptic VN
>Where survival can be too much to ask for, can you find love?

Wasn't that a movie called Zombieland?

>>59642586

Sorry, that should be you're NOW a promising, up and coming intellectual. I'm banging all this out sort of off the cuff here.

>>59642628
A shitty one that nobody liked, at that.

Perhaps you could find yourself in conflict with the other girls depending on which route you take? For instance, I doubt Communist-chan and Theocracy-chan would get along well.

>>59642633
I lol'd

"YEAH YEAH WHEN CAN I SAY I LOVE MY WAIFU AND GET TO THE SEX SCENES ALREADY FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU-"

>>59642586
I like this a lot. A real lot.

>>59642586
Needs Annarchy-chan
>you become a full-time protester.

Can't we just turn this story, no this EPIC into a VN

part 1: http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/58232569

Part2: http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/58252681/

>>59642583
Seeing as the other characters are named by their ideology, renaming dictatorship-chan fascism-chan seems to me like a good idea.

Revolutionary > Post-Apocalyptic > Dystopian

>>59642522
Sounds good to me, no point in making him downright evil. I was kind of figuring most of the MC's contacts with the government would generally be manipulative and self-serving. It fits to have the MC in a lower hierarchical position to these kinds of people

>>59642758
How about... Post-dystopian apocalyptic revolution?

Anarchy-chan could be the daughter of an ultra-right wing conservative part of the governing body, tired of dealing with his dad´s crap she revels and joins the revolution.
Of course, she wears heavy duty boots.

>>59642517
"troll" here, I'm criticising, not trolling. I wish I was just trolling, I really am mad at you guys over this shit. That said, yeah, don't even bother defending this crap, I've heard it all already. And I can't honestly demand you bother going to /jp/ right now, they've been meta-trolled to the point of being fuck-useless and us /a/ purists are the weaker faction on /a/ right now. So I don't know what to tell you to do, but you could try to condense your threads if you can get all the VNfags on board with that as an effort. Thanks!

WHO WANTS TO PLAY A VN WITH GIRLS NAMED AFTER POLITICAL IDEOLOGIES? THEIR DEFINING CHARACTER TRAITS ARE THEIR POLITICAL VIEWS COMBINED WITH SOME ANIME ARCHETYPE? ARE YOU KIDDING ME??

>>59642846
I do.
Only faggots play VNs for the sex.

>>59642685
Fascism-tan
Rasied in a broken family, with drug-addicted parents. Believes that you should help people even if they think they don't need to be helped. Has Black hair.

>>59642815
OR OR hear me out OR, how about a space cowboy samurai mystery pyschological thriller?

protip: Those three are totally different and require different circumstances for each.

>>59642586

Also, the other girls shouldn't disappear after the university phase -- they'll be leaders of the other factions you're fighting against. Maybe in some plots you end up becoming a mole in their organizations.

Maybe jumping the gun here, but I think a pretty good bad end for fascism-tan would be, she puts you in as a mole in the communist faction, then thinks you've gone rogue and gotten too close to communism-chan, so she has you assassinated. It would happen if you were too buddy-buddy with communism-chan during your interactions with her on fascism-tan's route.

This is just one idea, but there should be lots of shitty endings like that where you lose everything.

>>59642380
And it was horrible.

>>59642873
Yeah, people play VNs for emotional and engaging stories. Basically the opposite of what I associate with politics.

>>59642873
naming girls for their ideologies is too impersonal. We need to have a few heroines, each with their own deep personalities and ideologies. Humans, not moefied ideas.

>>59642922
It's not only politics. The politics will most likely not be outright, but more of a kind of thing that comes out through interaction with the girls, and you get it from their personality. As you move along their routes, your choices reflect those ideologies.

>>59642949

I agree. The ideology names are just placeholders. And you won't just be playing to get the girl -- you're also upholding the ideology they espouse, too. If you want to win fascism-tan's heart, you have to become a fascist yourself.

I can't help but feel that this whole "lets have sex with mai [POLITICAL STEREOTYPE HERE] waifu" thing makes the whole plot paper-thin.

This thread is starting to piss me off. I think it's the way you just throw around a bunch of random gimmicks and desperately try to weave it together into something comprehensible, and think it's going to be awesome and original because you use many more gimmicks than other works.

Gimmicks are kinda like special moves. They can be extremely powerful, but it would be foolish to build your whole fighting style around them.

>>59642916
A VN where pissing off a girl makes her send an assasin behind your ass?
Do want!

Well, /a/, I myself have managed to acquire a rather skilled team of artists, writers, musicians, and programmers. Although we're relatively small, we're extremely passionate - in fact, we've been together for near a year now, and I am confident that we can produce some fantastic content if we push for it.
Our plot idea is simple. This isn't really a request for help or a plea; I am just taking this opportunity to teach /a/ about our current project.
We're making a visual novel, as you'd expect. The premise is rather simple - all we're doing is personifying days of the week. Each girl in the VN represents a day of the week. As a total, we have six, since the main character represents a day himself.
The MC represents Sunday - a blank slate and a day of beginning. He is perfect for a self-insert.
Each of the girls represents a sin as well as a day, to spice things up a bit and allow us to add a big of theological inquiry to each route.
The six girls are as follows:
Monday - Sloth [Kuudere]
Tuesday - Envy [Yandere]
Wednesday - Gluttony [Fatdere]
Thursday - Wrath [Tsundere]
Friday - Pride [Genki]
Saturday - Greed [Trolljou-sama]
Sunday - Lust [MC]
Hopefully, in a few weeks, we'll have a sample to show you.
In the mean time, I will try to procure the character designs for you, /a/.

>>59642949
The point of the girls is to show what kind of person is attracted to each of these ideologys.

Politics manifested into characters seems... linear. I mean, it has potential. Yet without a good team of writers and quality checkers, I can see the qualities of each character being only the obvious. Commy-chan hates facist pigs. Demo-chan wants the world to be equal. Stuff like that. It needs to delve deeper. Commy-chan needs to experience the side effects of poor management that wastes the country away. Perhaps manifesting in herself as not eating and wasting away.

I can see the writers falling into this sort of trap, but politics is always viewed in two ways: Those who are in it and those who look upon it. It has to display both sides of the coin.

>>59643024
Exactly. Piling a bunch of superficial elements on top of a shallow premise doesn't make it deeper, it just makes it more superficial.

I'd care more, but none of these people are going to go through with any of this, so it doesn't matter much.

>>59640068
Ok, is there anybody here except me and the trolls?

>>59643218
I'm here.

>>59643218
Veronyak here

This whole idea of girls representing political ideas kinda remembers me to the smt series. With enough passion and a good team behind it, it could become something pretty cool... or a fucking mess in the worst case scenario.

Characters come before setting you stupid fucks.

All I see is PLOT PLOT PLOT with barely anything about the actual characters aside from 1-2 lines of basic gimmicky personality quirks. VN's typically build off of characters, not universes. Look at KS. It's all built off of one interesting premise and takes off with the unique personality of each girl. Infact, they had too little character interactions most of the time, but bit was still enough to keep you into the game. You did not keep reading because you wanted to learn about cripple highschool life; that was just the hook. You stuck around because you wanted to get to know the CHARACTERS better.

You fags dont even have your priorities straight. You are completely missing the differents between a visual novel and a regular one. As one anon put it, "I already want to hit the skip button and get to the characters interaction."

Get your shit together. You are bound to produce shit at this rate.

I can already see the ending.

>>59643032

I really like this idea

Fascism-tan could be the member in some fascist militia like SS or
if she is member, MC's older brother is the leader and MC's master was be a former general or hero in the country

>>59643032
fucking awful

>Post-apocalyptic VN

>They Haven't played Swan Song

>>59643032
For those that remember from months ago, this was the secret project I was involved with that I mentioned before.

OP your picture is retarded. Soldiers have a real wife. They don't care about that waifu shit.

>>59643382
Threads over. Go home everyone.

>>59643308
THIS

>>59643308
>creating characters without drama
>not resulting in lackluster plot
Although I think this guy has a point in that we're going too specific in descriptions

>>59643308

The plot is just as integral as the characters. Both must be developed in tandem. What do the characters do? Why do they do it? What do they accomplish? How do they feel about it? Plot and character are inseparable. I agree that we should have a better understanding of who these people are. But we need a good idea for where the story will ultimately take them too.

>>59640505
>>59641602
>>59641727

We've tried to explain this.

Look, here's some constructive criticism, look for a book called 'Story' by Robert McKee. It covers the fundamentals of plot writing and offers excellent tips and advice in a easy to read manner. pay attention to the part about characters

It's not characters v. setting. You need both for a good product. Even if you get a pile of great characters, if you slap a boilerplate "GENERIC HIGH SCHOOL" setting under it all, it's going to have to fight to overcome that overused, stale-as-shit setting.

On the other hand, an exceptionally strong setting can overcome weak characters. Lord of the Rings has characters that aren't the strongest, and their interactions aren't exactly nuanced or clever-- but it has an exceptionally strong setting, and the characters act as a vehicle for the reader to explore the richness of that setting which carries the entire series.

OKAY GENTS

FUCK THIS MEANDERING. WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT ASSETS FIRST, NOT JUST PLOT IDEAS.

I suggest artists and otherwise talented persons put up their hands, and instead of just arguing with ourselves they get the final say on where this thing is headed.

Why is that? Because their support is the most important thing that matters at this point. If there isn't a dedicated artist at the core of the project, we're sunk

>>59640109

Whoever wrote this, are you still around?

>>59643721

NiggerJustWentFullRetard.jpg

>>59642657
Mindless fun and I loved it.
I find it curious that nobody tried a VN without a girl. I mean, yeah girls are cute and shit, but still.

>>59643756
Yup

>>59640221
While all of these are essential at some point, really, what's most important right now is getting a strong vision and some writers to start on the project.

Art and music should be next, as they're going to need to rely on the writer's vision for inspiration. Location scout would probably come at this point as well.

Then you have the game engine (I think the standard is Ren'py) and programmers once something tangible is produced, then you bring in the testers.

At any rate, you don't have to worry about this all at once. May I also suggest getting an IRC channel? It makes discussion for your ideas so much easier.

>>59643752
1. Write a script.
2. Have SOMEONE ELSE edit that script.
3. Then send it to the art monkeys.
4. Send Script+Art to the code monkeys.
5. Send the whole thing to QC.
6. Done.

Art is important, but ultimately secondary to the writing. If you get the art monkeys churning out content before you've got a finalized script, you're going to end up wasting a shitload of assets, or making your script a meandering mess as you try to include all this random shit the artists made.

>>59643721
I'm going to disagree. Something like "generic high school" works as a setting, as long as that's what the story calls for. What's more important is the atmosphere.

Are people seriously thinking about making one? Because I've been wanting to write for one for quite a while. I'd personally go for a Revolution VN, lots of scope for interactions, while still being a great dramatic backdrop.

We need more translations for multiple languages .

>>59643901
You forgot the part where you found some committed art and code monkeys

>>59643970
We can worry about that much later.

>>59639363
More like this:
After a post-apocalyptic event, to preserve the lives of the general population an oppressive government was established .Thats were you start, further on in the story you find out that Doomsday never happened and embark on a quest for truth and freedom in for of a revolution.

/thread

>>59643975
4chan is the field of dreams for writefagging. If you write it, they will come.

>>59643368
Shit, Fraggot. If you're working on it, then the script has to be good, right?
...Right?
;_;

>>59643901

Yeah but without the art, all you have is sub par writing. please consider your artists with respect and not refer to them as monkeys

>>59643970
Why would someone care about doing it in a different language if the project is complete shit?

>>59643853

A few of us (very few, really) have taken a liking to the idea of the post-apocalyptic setting, and we've been talking about it on an irc channel.
Myself at least, I've liked some of the character ideas you've submitted, and I think it would be nice if you could join us.

The channel we're using is that from >>59641671, if you're interested.

Watching /a/ projects fail is part of my regular entertainment.

>>59644027
It isn't.

>>59643752
I'm this guy, I'm raising my hand for writing.
>>59643968

I've got a BA in Drama and Scriptwriting, if any kind of qualifications are important. Been working on a few plays and a radio drama, nothing published thus far.

>>59644093
Then the art is going to be sugoi...?

Okay, then. Characters.

Communism-chan
The requisite tsundere. She genuinely cares about others but she has a hard time showing it. Probably this is the reason she got involved with radical politics in the first place. She comes from a middle-class upbringing but strongly identifies as working-class. She's sometimes crass, given to cursing, drinking, smoking, and lewdness, but you get the feeling that these are just affectations. Underneath this facade she's really just a petit-bourgeois trying to shirk her privileged roots.

Theocracy-chan
Daughter of a famous televangelist. Outwardly a complete bible-thumping nutter. Inwardly she entertains doubts about her religious upbringing, but she feels trapped, and forced to follow her father's footsteps. She's not an agnostic or an atheist, mind you -- she's very devout -- she just isn't sure that her father's brand of fundamentalism is really the true way. Though she's quite extroverted and outspoken publically, when she's alone with you, she's very shy and self-confident.

Fascism-tan
Cold and logical to a fault. Daughter of a major corporate executive. Slowly you come to find that she was beaten and abused by him as a child. She isn't attending college with her father's money; he disowned her. She's there on a scholarship. She subscribes to the "rugged individualist" ideology because that's who she is. But she also believes that most people are dull, violent animals, who need to be kept in line by a powerful state. Basically a walking bucket of daddy issues. Kuudere.

I have to run an errand now but there's a start for three characters and I have ideas for the other two as well. I'll return.

>>59644081
I occasionally go to /v/ just because there aren't enough here to enjoy crash and burn.

>>59643994
Wow how original.
Could be a Gainax anime.

>>59643901
The more I think about this, the more I realize this should not be a group project,

Why not just have a mutual-aid writer/editor group which circulates their ideas around to everyone else for sake of editing/feedback while still letting everyone roam free?

Or perhaps we could just decide on a basic setting already and start dividing people up into "sections" of the plot they "own"?

>>59644131
Nope. But you should hype it for me anyway.

>>59644096
Do you want to work on the actual dialogue and narration? All I have so far is setting and characters.

>>59644156
Anything for you, Senpai.
I'll become your personal fanboy.

>>59644168
I would love to do that, definitely plays to my skills.

I agree with the sentiment that characters are what make a VN (that is a Visual Novel, not an anime nor a manga nor a book) succeed or fail. However you can't be seriously expecting some writefag to come up with brilliant, nuanced characters on this very spot especially when there doesn't seem to be even a general consensus about the setting.

>>59642104

and

>>59642344
>>59642586

offer two quite different settings that will probably require some similar characters, but also some wildly different ones.

First thing is an IRC channel and soon after that, forum. Nobody can be really expected to write or draw their stuff to /a/ where it will disappear within a matter of hours. A setting and the main characters might be decided on this thread, but everything else needs a different place really. Also an IRC channel or a forum will lure people with prior experience from working on VN's to give their advice.

>>59644208
One down, now for the rest of /a/

>>59644256
Send me a message then. Thanks.

Hey guys, I've actually been working on a VN about mecha pilots in love for about three years now and we're going to have a demo out soon. This a good thread to talk about it?

Pic related, it's QUALITY programmer art of the main characters.

inb4 take it to /jp/, it's an OELVN, they don't care about that shit.

READ THIS

Okay guys, how about this:

1) we start a "VN club"
2) we make a bunch of really short 10-30 minute games
3) EVERYONE IN THE CLUB GETS A CHANCE TO PITCH THEIR OWN IDEA AND WE MAKE IT, NO FUCKING EXCEPTIONS
4) Allow said group to get into bigger and bigger projects
PROFITS

>>59644344
Sent

Well, I wish you guys luck. I really doubt this will get even close to finishing/being quality work, but I hope you prove me wrong.

I'll be watching.

>>59643853
>>59644065

So I guess that's a no, then?

The only way a VN started on /a/ can succeed is if we start it with the characters first. We need characters that make the artists and writers go "holy shit, that bitch is kawaii, I want to writer her story/ draw her" What we DON'T need is a ton of pointless, worthless plot ideas. Everyone can come up with that shit and even if it sounds interesting in your head, it might very well be boring as hell to read for anyone else.

>>59644733
You might be unto something. Take KS, it all started because of that one page showing the different characters and demonstrating their moe points.

But on the other hand, I highly suspect that doing a character brainstorm would end up pretty close to this.

>>59644733
Doesn't need and must not to be limited "kawaii" though.

This sounds fun, can I join in?

>>59644733
I partially agree. But I also disagree because the all this plot idea stuff intrigues me, and I happen to write code. They're gonna need programmers eventually, right?

>>59644733
I think that's one way to start, not the only way.

>>59645105
sure
>>59641671

>>59644733
Not really. You can start from wherever you want, but characters do need to be exposed outside of the project the most, because they'll be driving your game.

>>59645111
Yes we will.

>>59645153
Awesome, I wonder what I can do...

>>59645227

Definitely. What we need is someone who can draw some nice concept sketches of the different girls and get those circulating on /a/. That generates interest, which generates people who can work on the project... as well as an audience to play the finished product.

Anyone out there who can draw a moe fascist?

What irc server is #Revolutionary on?

>>59645448
Rizon.
#Revolutionary_Girls

How far would you go to protect her?

Anyone remembers that Haiwaian Gutts dude and his MS paint comic? His art was utter shit and his story cliche as fuck, yet it still catched on and people were interested in it because it had an interesting premise. Let's just take that premise and expand it to VN form: Guy strands on island with let's say 4 random girls. Now doesn't that sound overall much more simple, yet more interesting for a VN than all this plot infodump about revolutions, politics etc? At least that's how I feel. Maybe I'm alone on that.

>>59645715
I think you're confusing plot with setting...

Is this still bumping?

>>59646168
329 posts. 330 with mine.
Of course not.

page 14.
soon dead.

>browse post-apocalyptic IRC
>negative atmosphere all the hell over the place

>browse [Political ideology X] chan IRC
>jesus christ this idea is shit

Oh goddammit. I felt like there was potential in this thread

I was here!
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