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Toasters general you mean?

>>58488426
SOPA hearings are the best anime of the year, hands-down, and you know it.

So, what did happen yesterday?
Is the internet finally finished and can I commit sudoku?

>>58488454
Issa's arguments are a miracle of the universe

>>58488469
Toasters are recognized as people and will be given human rights at the start of the next fiscal year.

>>58488426
Don't you mean pizzas?

>>58488469
As I was told, one amendment passed that would require the government to submit a list of blocked websites before doing so.

It seems like they plan to bury it in so much nonsense and bullshit that it becomes unenforceable even if it passes. Looks like a safe tactic for the side of freedom, too.

Reporting in to watch Polis finish off what he started.

Can someone snag the stream link? I don't have it handy and I want to be ready when it's time.

When are they meeting again, anyway?

>>58488571
http://keepthewebopen.com/inc/livestream/iframe.php?height=180&amp%3Bwidth=270&nocahce=13+23
969886

>>58488571
10 minutes? i think?

>>58488598
Yep.

America, land of the free.

I'm awaiting for more sopa-chan x clerk-chan fanart

GO ISSA GO

/v/ thread:
>>>/v/120845130

Stream: http://www.justin.tv/dreyen#/w/2253552080

Epic background music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiN6t7K7txw&feature=player_embedded#!

>>58488645
HE NEEDS OUR ENERGY!

bai bai, Amerikansu

>>58488580
I-is it only me who can't get the stream to work?
Someone do me a favor and put in a summary for the first bit? I'm going to miss it because I'll be in transit from class to home.

>>58488669
It's not just you, it hasn't started yet.

>>58488650
>Epic
As expected of /v/.

Were starting off with one of Polis's amendments right?

>>58488714
I think so.
Though it wouldn't surprise me if they switch it up.

Shit, I just woke up and downloading iM@S. I wonder if my internet will be able to hold up with both things on.

So I made it on time!
Are you reading for more Watt?

Hey guys, what subs if there's multiple. I figured I should download everything in sight before SOPA, and I keep hearing idolm@ster isn't just moeshit.

>>58488786
If iM@S, go to UTW's site. Same for F/Z and C^3. For Haganai, I'd go with Mazui.

Someones gonna have to keep me up go date on what's going on today, I wont be home from work until 4:15, and all I have is my phone

>>58488813
Thanks. Anything else this season worth picking up? I've only been watching P4A and Chihayafuru.

>black lady, the voice of determination and reason
>pro sopa get ripped for supporting the bill to stop pirating and yet disagree that porn shouldn't be protected despite they should be fighting for
>Issa and blond lady, bros
>mr.scott is a dick
>i'm offended at offensive

Does the gentlemen yield?

Who the fuck was on which side for that whole twitter thing? I haven't been following this as closely as I should be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqmuloOdzrU

>>58488924
King tweeted that Ms. Jackson was boring him so bad he started surfing the internet on his phone.
She got butthurt.

>>58488924

King called Sassy black woman boring. She called him offensive. Chairman made her take back what she said.

>>58488940
I knew that, Which side is each of them on?

>>58488975

King is for. Jackson is sort of against, but she doesn't really know much.

>>58488975
Jackson is good. King is pants on head retarded.

That Justin chat is fucking horrible.
My god.

Has it started yet? The stream link isn't working for me.

I haven't followed this at all but basically it's going to pass at this rate?

Hold my hand anon...
I don't wanna lose you

>>58489038
No, I have both links open.

It is time.

Justin one just started.
Other link isn't gong yet.

So exactly what amendments have been passed so far? Yesterday I only got to hear a whole string of rejected ones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li8ZqVGzDXQ&feature=related

Get your battle themes gentlemen

>>58489043
*holds fellow /a/non's hand*

Incidentally, yesterday I was on a bus trip back from from college for winter break, so I don't know what I miss. Anyone mind feeling me in with some quick greentext?

>>58489040

It's definitely going to pass congress. Probably Senate too. Obama said he would veto it but >Obama doing what he says.

>>58489077
>*action*
Stop. Not on /a/.

FUCK YEA POLIS!

>>58489077

>Toasters are people
>Issa and Polis are bros
>The Internet is for porn
>Dat AYE
>Everyone ate vegetables after the hearing.

>>58489079
Nah it's not even going to make it to senate
It's too much of a clusterfuck to make it through congress

Here we go!

I'm so nervous.

>>58489117
You would be surprised how many people in congress just want to rush it through regardless of how much of a clusterfuck it is. There's enough of those people on the committee to get it passed there and considering the bill had 32 sponsors it's entirely possible it could make it out of the house.

>amendment to the amendment
I never get tired of that.

Lofgren time

Go Lofgren oba-chan.

>>58489195
Are sponsors the people who are guaranteed to vote in favour of the bill?

>Glasses
Serious business.

>>58489273
Yes they are.

>>58489293
Do they outnumber the rest of Congress?

>Thinking the bill is gonna past.

The Bill is not gonna past.

I wish Waters knew how to use a mic.

>>58489293
>>58489273
>Our... Benefactors...

that's because the committee members are bribed out the ass with jewgolds and the stupid baby boomer fucks cannot into technology. surprised none of them have mentioned how the internet is a series of tubes

the dumb bastards trying to strongarm this law through are the same kind of dumb old bastards that infect their computers with viruses from porn sites and have to call in a "specialist" because Internet Explorer locked up while they were playing some shitty little browser games while they were "working" on those documents minimized in the background are they saeved? HALP!

>>58489315
32 is not a majority for the house. It isn't even close.
However, it is more than enough to pass a bill in the senate... and even if Obama vetos it, that is pretty much the amount of votes they need to overrule his veto, anyway.

Jesus some one get Ms waters a new mic

>>58489373
No shit.

>>58489355
So, a majority is not needed to pass a bill? Sorry for my lack of knowledge on how the United States lawmaking process works.

Guys, I can't get the /v/ stream to work. It works for one or two seconds then crashes my flash plugin every time I reload the page. What do I do? ;n;

>>58489389
A majority is required, however, he is saying that having a base of 32 is very very good in the senate.

Of course, these people are from the House.

SOPA stream not working for me

They're not gonna close facebook or youtube. Way too many people would care. Normalfags would start to care, not just the silent neckbears.

>>58489398
>;n;
You leave, that's how.

>>58489410

Me either, this one works.>>58488650
But the chat is shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNxoLJy3m3s

Feel it, /a/.
Feel the mad flow through you, making you strong.

>>58489440
Yeah, I'm there
And yeah, it is

SOPA bingo from /v/

Let's get this shit started

>>58489409
So it's more that having 32 people from the House supporting the bill will convince those in the Senate who don't care either way to vote for the bill?

What they are arguing over is pretty much if someone were to get pissed at /rs/ the rest of 4chan doesn't go down with it.
Am i on the right track here?

Faggot here. I can't get either stream to work for some reason.

>>58489474
The only one working is the Justin stream right now, if you have a TV you guys can turn on C-span.

>>58489315
No, there are 435 people in the house of representatives but you're banking on a large portion of those not being as crooked as the people who have already pledged their support (the sponsors)

>>58489355
Well those are just house sponsors. If you're looking at the senate then your should probably be eyeing PROTECT IP (S. 968) which is the senate version of SOPA and has 40 sponsors (the senate has 100 members.)

>>58489419
judging on how they're voting, they're way to retarded to care.

>>58489466
It all depends on is getting paid off when it gets to that point.

>>58489471
They've been arguing about trying to clarify the language of the bill for the past 36 hours practically. It's THAT Much of a clusterfuck and if it goes to congress they'll probably argue about the language for upwards to a week or more because of how fucking moronically worded the bill is.

>>58489493
I'm having the same problem as >>58489398 and I don't have a TV handy.

The rage.

Issa laying down the TOLD yet?

>>58489444
Fuck why am I laughing at this?

http://keepthewebopen.com/sopa
Has been working for me.

I'LL JUST LEAVE THIS HERE...

>>58489524
Doesn't that pretty much go for any bill?

>>58489543
Yep, this is working, try this guys.

How do i add the adblock rule for blocking the background music in /v/? It's driving me nuts

>>58489546

DAMN IT CAPTCHA

>>58489543

Thanks, now I don't have to look at that shitty /v/ stream.

It's that time again!

>>58489548
Not usually, no. This bill is extraordinarily poorly thought out.

>>58489546

thanks for the ellipses bro

Why are they even bothering with this shit? All these votes are already bought and paid for.

>>58489564
That /v/ stream really is fucking shit.

inb4 dat No.

NO!

So if Issa is the MC, who is Polis and Blonde Older Lady?

>>58489591
NO! FAGGOT!

CLERK-CHAN i missed you

Hey, it's the only guy with common sense.

Fucking chairman, stop interrupting clerk-chan

This one was bad, wasn't it?

So does this Sensenbrenner guy know what hes talking about?

>>58489115
You forgot >piracy is a crackhouse.

>>58489632

The last amendment was. But the guy talking right now is good.

Polis namedropped Youtube and reddit
He'll be the one to say 4chan today

>>58489645
And all roads leading to said crackhouse are responsible for the crackhouse.

Did they just pass an amendment that made SOPA even more retarded?

>>58489667
Yes.

>>58489667
Yes they did.

>>58489667
Yup

>>58489650

He said Tor and .onion yesterday.

Just waiting on the 4chan name drop

>>58489562
go to adblock, click on blockable items and click on the loop link, only the loop link

>>58489115
they decided IP Address = People, Toasters have IP addresses, so Toasters = People, and you can sue a toaster

Our greatest allies are Issa, Lofgren and Polis

The lyrics of "The Internet is for Porn" were quoted and added to the record

Everyone got multiple varieties of pizza

And we still can't decide if Issa was drinking Coke or Pepsi.

I like this guy. He knows his shit.

>>58489715
TOASTERS ARE PEOPLE JUST LIKE CORPORATIONS ARE PEOPLE

BUT PEOPLE? PEOPLE AREN'T PEOPLE ANYMORE, UNLESS THEY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY.

>saving the government money
How about just dump this whole fucking thing?

>>58489077
The Government knows about the deepweb, Tor, Silkroad, .onion, entering IP addresses directly into browser, all of it. They're not all tired old men running the world.

>will the gentleman yield?

FUCK NO

Does anyone else find his voice irritating above and beyond how stupid and wrong he is?

So Goodlatte ally or enemy?

Step the fuck back, Issa's back on

>>58489597
Issa = Kamina
Polis = Simon
Blonde Old Lady = Yoko

>>58489769
Enemy.

Private Rights:
Effectively, if UMG wanted to take down a site, they could take a site to court and get that site shut down.

This is bad, gentlemen.

>>58489667
Basically the amendment would grant immunity to an ISP if they just took down an entire website if a complaint about infringing content is found. This is bad because it encourages ISPs to just pull the plug on a website even if there is just a single user infringing on it.

Issa Telling it like it is.

NO ISSA, DON'T ADMIT DEFEAT

Tell them Issa, you go dude

>>58489769

Goodlatte is the worst enemy.

>>58489779
No.

>Issa-san
Oh boy here we go

Shit Issa don't give up.

It's letter time motherfuckers!

>virtually everyone who created the internet

get ready guys

Posting from yesterday.

Did... did they just reference "Al Gore invented the Internet"?

Holy shit son.

Did Al Gore create the internet now?

>Is Al Gore on that list?

Oh fuck my life

>Al Gore

BWAHAHAHAHA

>>58489835

Someone should add Goodlatte and the Chariman.

So, why arent the people who wrote that letter sitting in on the hearing?

>Al Gore
FUckthisgayearth.jpg

>flip on stream
>Senator understands the technical aspects of the bill better than 90% of 4chan's 'hurr durr It's only murrica bye bye amerifats'
For shame /a/.

>>58489767
You know what I hate? He utters every fucking word with a Zouken smile in my brain.

I don't know why, it feels like he's literally screaming I AM ABOVE ALL to me.

>>58489873
they could be in the audience but they wouldn't be able to talk because they aren't voted in as representatives

Issa just told everyone

>>58489835
>Not including Ron Wyden

>NDAA
>SOPA

Jesus Christ, America.

>>58489908
That he did.

Issa Lofren Combo, fuck yeah

>>58489873
That's what Issa has been pushing for, unfortunately the chairman and many other people in the committee are fervently for passing the bill and can't have that.

>>58489912
Don't blame me, I did not make that.
I really meant to post the second instead of that one.

Lofgren incoming!
get ready to be told

I can't help but suspect that more than one of the people on our side are secretly our bretheren. There are too many subtle memes slipped in... You guys notice them too, right?

Also, that guy is clearly upset by this. What was his nickname, again?

>>58489893
>Senator
These guys are Representatives.

So of the 30 some odd people there, only like 5 are against it, why the fuck are they even debating this its going to reach the house inevitably

>>58489917
You wanna feel SOPA-neechan's breasts don't you Issa-kun.

MEGA COMBA

>>58489943
"Phoenix" Issa, ore AYESIR.

Issa, Lofgren, Chaffetz combo, 9001 MEGATONS

What will the current amendment they're discussing do?

Chaffetz is kinda cute. I wonder if he'd make a good trap?

>>58489896
His adoptive granddaughter is sucking his dick under that table.

>>58489964
1) Stalling
2) Laying groundwork for actual floor debate if the bill does get out of committee

Shit, our Heroes keeping the combo chain going.

GODDAMNIT BERNMAN
SHUT UP, YOU'RE GOING SENILE

>>58489964
Keep pushing amendments until one side gives in. Also, they can discuss it as long as they want until it's outdated. Search "filibuster".

>>58490001
Nice.

I really like the fact that they're somewhere between standing on ceremony and trolling each other, constantly.

Also, Berman looks like a circumcised dick.

>>58490001

>>58489964
The idea is that you bore the other side to death, and they get so sick of trying to argue that they give up on the bill completely.

Issa for president.

>>58490018
example: calling for a recorded vote

>>58490034
I can't stop laughing.

>>58490046

>>58490012
I think everyone knows this is just constructive time wasting.

>>58490009
That only happens in the senate.

This is basically the SOPA hearing in a nutshell

>>58490056
5 stars anon, 5 fucking stars.

>>58490072
Go back to reddit you fucking cunt

>>58490072
Keep that stuff on reddit.

BACK OFF THE MIC, WATERS

what the fuck ms waters, I can't understand a word you're saying...this may be a good thing

DAMN IT SOMEONE CHANGE WATERS' MIC

Fucking mics, how do they work?

>>58490072
Why would you save a reddit image? You're not "trolling" anyone.

Jesus waters.

goddamn waters what does philosophy have to do with this bill?

>>58490073
>>58490101
It's a clever ironic picture implying those voting for SOPA belong on reddit.

All I heard was philisophical

Recorded vote

>recess until 1
Pussies.

>>58490101
>>58490106

if those heads were just hand draw stick heads you would have said that

>>58490131
Thats deep man

We want an aye in this right?

Did anyone snap a picture of Yawnguy in the background? I was too slow to nab it.

Recess until 1? What time is it there right now?

>>58490131
That we do

no don't recess!
I have to go to work at 1! I'll miss EVERYTHING

>>58490139
>>58490126
I feel like she said something very DEEP and clever but it was lost. Oh sorrow.

>>58490171
11 o'clock

2 hour recess

>>58490160
Bracing for AYE

AYE

>>58490171
11:00. Same as 4chan time.

Fuck yeah Polis

fuck yeah polis
AYE-ing like a boss

and it's just after 11 where they are

What's special about the gentlemen from Texas, New York, Virginia etc?

I wish my exam were earlier so I could watch this in peace instead of studying.

I missed the Mr. Issa thing, what did he say?

time for recess

Well see you in 2 hours guys

Yesss long recess, I can actually get shit done today.

>>58490218
You mean aside from the fact that they're members of the U.S. House of Representatives?

20 Nos?

how many ayes?

What was it about?

>>58490244
Meeting is adjourned.

Late to the party here, guys.
What was this last amendment about?

Would somebody post all the SOPA related images we have?

>>58490252
But why are they referred to in a different way from the rest of the committee?

>>58490156
Nope...reddit just regurgitates memes en masse, basically original content with no originality.
Stick men would be fine.

>>58490218
That's just how they refer to each other instead of by name. For instance, instead of saying Darrell Isssa or Mr. Issa, they might just call him the Gentleman from California.

And to think this is all happening 10 min from my condo.

I wanna spank that rollcall-san...she looks like she would have a nice ass.

>>58490255
21 Nos
8 Ayes
We wanted an Aye

OH GOD YES KUNG POW ON THE JUSTIN.TV /V/ STREAM

>that feel when you're literally watching a few bought and paid for old people end DNS as we know it
You guys remember that all the root's being in America was to safeguard the system from political meddling? All the little squabbles would be ignored because that's what the US does best? Well now we're full circle and all that self interest has reached a breaking point.
Enjoy your fragmented DNS as other countries are pissed enough that they'll actually do something about this.

>>58490303
which amendment were they voting for

>>58490277
Last amendment was about giving Big Content to go it alone on shutting down sites without the go-ahead from the Attorney-General.

AMERICAN PSYCHO FUCK YES

>>58490303
So we lost this battle?

>>58490308
Fuck off, this a SOPA thread niqqer.

>>58490361
They're just voting on amendments here, not the full bill itself.
And this is only a committee.

>/a/
>Talking about politics
>Enjoying politics

What the fuck am I reading.jpg

>>58490383
Watching the committee for the past day or so should have led everyone watching to the conclusion that this is going to sail right out of it largely intact.

>>58490361
Not necessarily, some good amendments were passed yesterday, most notable the last one Mr. Polis added
>>58490340
see >>58490348

>>58490361
Yeah we lost the battle and unfortunately were more than likely going to lose the war as well.

it wont affect animu since it only persecutes US copyright.

I can't decide on my Gentleu
Issa is gar
Lofgen is Bro
Chaffets is shota cute
and Polis is a moe troll

>>58490383
When is the vote for the full bill ?

>>58490393
Actually, now that I think about it, I'm convinced that this is a reverse troll to get our generation into politics. As much bickering about specifics we do on /a/, we could be good politicians. As you can see, even the average anon is smarter than these guys, or at least we aren't as easily swayed by money. We just want our animu.

Allright guys, see you in 2 hours

>>58490393
only politics that affect the future of animu and 4chan.

>>58490393
/a/ makes politics fun, we had like what? 4 500 post threads yesterday?

>>58490393
History and international relations discussions are much livelier and much, much better on /a/ than anywhere else on 4chan. For some reason. Or another.

I better not jinx it.

>>58490431
I do not know.
>>58490406
I am inclined to agree but I'm hoping.

>>58490431
Has yet to be decided. First it needs to make it out of committee for that to happen (where it's at right now)

It will most likely be approved by the committee since around 30 of them are industry shills.

>>58490421
What about licensees?

>>58490435
Not easily swayed by money, throw in a boxed set of Madoka, Eva and Spice & wolf LNs and then we can talk

>>58490435
Seriously speaking, I'd like to see a collected group of the more well-adjusted 4channers work together and support each other to get into politics... and we can really support freedoms for our generation.

I guess it's sort of a cliché, but why should these older guys be telling us about our future?

>>58490431

If they can keep stalling, hopefully not until after christmas.

>>58490490
Many of them were probably saying the same thing when they were younger, you know.

>see this thread
>watch the hearings
>Yields everywhere
>Aye! No! Aye! No!

But I ain't even a murrikans

>>58490480
No, it affects everything. The amendment trying to make sure it was only for US copyrights was shot down.

Basically, anyone can go into a US court and fight for an infringing website to be taken down (at US taxpayer expense) if this is passed. This includes someone from Nigeria fighting to have a Russian website taken down or any other wacky combination like that.

Is Issa our Lelouch, /a/?

>>58490480
yes, but at least we can download while it isn't / it is airing. it sucks I know.

>>58490421
Actually, there was an amendment that said EVEN IF IT'S NOT WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION IT'S NOT OKAY TO STEAL OTHER COUNTRIES' SHIT kind of amendment. I have no idea what the fuck they were thinking. Not sure if it passed or not though. Hope it didn't. Though I'm pretty sure it did.

>>58490490
well it could happen, given 20-30 years or so most of these old fucks will be dead and there will be huge holes in congress that need filling.

>>58490536
Realistically nobody is going to actually do that, though. It's just too much effort, and most foreign companies couldn't care less what we do with their products.

>>58490429
And Ms. Jackson hooooo I am fo reeeal is a tsundere

Is that nigger Watts in the hearing today or was he butt fucked by the experts?

Politics make me hungry.

>>58490536
I could see funimation or something trying to kill off fansubber sites using this bill in order to get a monopoly on anime. and it doesnt matter if those sites are not hosted on US soil this bill doesnt give a shit about that

>>58490566
You'd be surprised, even if they won't do it, it would be best to stop them now rather than say in hindsight "THIS WASN'T THE ORIGINAL INTENTION OF THIS"

>>58490566
I disagree.
Some small website starts up and has content similar to another website, the bigger website gets pissed and takes the guy to court to eliminate competition.
Same thing with the Movie industry bring lawsuits against people, I don't like you downloading and sharing out content and we see here you've shared and downloaded a lot in the past and we'd like to bring a lawsuit against you.

>>58490620
I... uh... dont... uh... know... uh

>>58490552
No, it was an amendment preventing that. The amendment was denied.

As it stands our Chinese cartoons are very well threatened.

>>58490620
It was too early for him, he was probably asleep at his desk.

>recess
>ditditditditditditditditditditditditditditditditditditditdit
I can't be the only one hearing this

>>58490546
So Crunchy Roll can just request for nyaa.eu and co to be delisted and there goes all your anime?
Can they take down IRC servers too?

Well, off to Canada.

>>58490625
I'm getting pizza.

>>58490620
If enough money is thrown at them yes they can

>>58490620

He hasn't said anything yet so I doubt he's there. But he might be after the recess.

Although Black Archer is there. I wonder how long untill we get another Unlimited Stuttering Works.

>>58490702
You can stay at my place, Anon-kun.

>>58490685
I don't know.
IRC are privately hosted.
But I guess this shit get's everything even if it's private.

>>58489835
fix'd this mothafucka

>>58490702
Fuck, Canada is too far for me. I'll have to go to Mexico.

Captcha: ignorance bePaya

Damn straight captcha.

>>58490738
Perfect!

>>58490685
>So Crunchy Roll can just request for nyaa.eu and co to be delisted and there goes all your anime?
Yeah. Nyaa would still be functioning at that point, but anyone in the US would not be able to access it outside of a proxy or VPN. This means the tracker itself would be blocked, but fortunately DHT would still function fine and you could download your shit as long as you got the .torrent file or magnet link.

>Can they take down IRC servers too?
It's not a "take down" it's a block. But yeah, the sure as hell could block IRC servers with this bill. Also usenet and basically whatever else they can think of.

>>58490757
Thanks bro. So when does the recess end?

>>58490741
Be sure to get to the center of the country as soon as possible
It's the nice part, still untouched by cartels and shit

>>58490776
See, now is the time to be calling these fuckfaces and telling them to eat a fucking dick.

>>58490798
Back in session at 1.

is moot doing this to keep the /b/tards feeling like they are special ?

>>58490776
Everyone should just change to some foreign DNS, then

They can't do shit, then

>>58490776
I was under the impression that they can take down any website/parts of it (at least websites rooted within Murika) under the law. Was I wrong?

Fuck, in ten years there will be so much of various parts of the internet blocked that we'll be having to get at it all by going through other countries who don't block the same thing as our own.

>>58490806
I'd do the same as that /a/non if it weren't for the fact that my house is in Michoacan. Shit's dangerous in there, been to afraid to take a trip back there in 2 year.s

>>58490812
Except unless you can pay them more than RIAA/MPAA are it's not going to do shit, most of the people at the hearing aren't even paying attention they are just payed to say NO every 20 minutes or so when someone wants to change the bill.