Right

left

Left

Rider.

>>57087571
I'll pick you op
suck my cock, dude

The one with penis.

>>57087610
So, right

>>57087599

>implying OP is a faggot

I'll take the background.

Probably left, but I want both.

Drake.

Misunderstood villain moe~

>>57087616

Shouldn't Nero be the one with the penis?

>>57087646
Fuck yes, let's travel the world on her ship and plunder treasure.

>>57087571

Depends

Is there the fluffy tail?

>>57087670

I would ride in her Golden Hind, if you know what I mean

>>57087678

Yes

>>57087650
Caster also offers attaching a penis if needed if you pick FeMC so...

Both have a penis, a magical one.

>>57087706
I totally know what you mean!

>>57087721
I'm sold.

>>57087846
>similar height

But that's wrong

Right.

http://exhentai.org/g/372306/6dae2a9035/

>>57087898

Jesus Christ Nero is tiny

>>57087898

Is it just me or is Nero perfect blowjob height?

>>57087898

WHY THE FUCK IS NERO A MIDGET

[x] touch fluffy tail

>>57087937
For Kotomine, maybe.

>>57087941
It makes you want to protect her.

>>57087898
Nero just looks smaller because she's in that stance.

What are the official measurements for the two Servants?

>>57087981
Nero is 4'9"

According to data, Caster is 160cm

>>57087898

In that image, Caster is wearing her platform shoes as always which increases her height, and Saber's combat stance has her legs spread out wide which lowers her profile. The shortness is exaggerated due to that.

Because of the boost Caster gets due to being upright and wearing platform shoes, they probably really do have a similar height.

>>57088007
She really is a midget then.

How similar is this game compared to Persona?

>>57088007
I take back what I said, what the fuck.

okay where do I get these

>>57088132
Aren't those self-made?

>>57088098
The dungeon crawling is similar, and that's it.

>>57088132
I don't think you can anymore.
I never buy shit, but I literally reached for my wallet when I saw these.

>>57088146
Nope, but they are store exclusive from Hobby Japan's store

>>57087964

>protect monomaniacal dictator who murdered thousands of his subjects for fun

NOPE

>>57088155
Okay, then.

Also for the people who play this game by emulator, do you use keyboard or gamepad as controller?

>>57088207
B-but..

>>57088223

You can do either, but I use a gamepad simply because I have one.

>>57088223
>>57088241

What, have psp emulators really advanced that much?
I haven't looked into it since they could only play like one game.

Either way I actually have not one, but two psps so it doesn't matter to me.

>>57088312
>Two psps
You know what you have to do. Now you only have to choose between 2 out of 3 servants and play with saber while you grind with caster.

RIGHT

>>57088234

Nero kicked his pregnant wife to death when she didn't sufficiently praise his acting ability

NOPE.avi

>>57088234
MY HEART

>>57088312

There's one emulator that works and it's still very buggy but at the end of the day the game is playable on it.

>>57088385
>Believing asspained christian propaganda because nero tried his best to hunt them to extinction
If only he had stomped out christfaggotry

>>57088385
Why do I suddenly love him/her more after learning that?

>>57088419
Don't start this shit again

This game should have more Servant choices instead of just 3. That way, it could work like Pokemon and anyone who has PSP along with this game can do battles.

Hopefully if they make a sequel, it would have more Servant choices. I want 12 at least.

>>57088419

>Christian

Chroniclers in Nero's day were all still Pagans, broski

Not only are you an ignorant fuck, you somehow managed to be an ignorant fuck with poor manners

Back to /b/ with you

>>57088488

This Nero is only mildly amused with this tomfoolery

>>57088485
If they did that you would get 1/4th as less content for each servant. With only 3 servants that you can choose from they can afford to put more effort into their personalities and put in more content.

Guys, where and when can i find Shiki (monster)?

>>57088570
Ryougi?
Do all of Taiga's requests in your second playthrough.
She'll be in the arena on the last week.

>>57088436
What a woman.

>>57088570
Only on Ng+ and you must complete all the requests

I am semi disgusted with you /a/.

Bros are ALWAYS before hos.

If I could get one for free, left because I don't want to look like a furry.

>Spreading Christian lies

Sup Gawainn?

>>57088667
Take this.

>>57088667
>Unlimited Blade Works
More like Unlimited Spam.

>>57088667
>Bro
>Archer
>Implying he would hesitate to kill you to save a million of Alaya told him to do so

GIVE LINKS YOU FUCKING MONGRELS

>>57088667
But I plan on doing a bromance playthrough with Archer once I'm done with Slutber.

>>57088696

Fox ears and tail are not enough to constitute furry. Get with the times.

>>57088727
>Wouldn't

>>57088735
Did someone say Slutkura?

>>57088729
How about you not be a faggot and buy it.

>>57088770
I think so.

>>57088770
Nope.

obligatory

Caster being one of the 3 selectable Servants seem out of place.

Caster is known for having a weak combat ability, and the other 2 selectable classes are part of the Knight classes. Why not Lancer instead of Caster?

>>57088796
Jesus Christ, that's Rider-length hair.

>>57088814

forgot image

>>57088826
You could never win with Lancer.

>>57088796
I guess you could say she has a couple of bugs in her programming.

>>57088826
>Lancer
Game Over 3/4 of the way through the story.

>>57088796
>mfw

>>57088826
Because suffering.
A game where you die in the first few rounds won't be too fun.

>>57088865
Haha, ok I smiled

>>57088778
>How about you not be a faggot and buy it.

BUY WHAT, MORON?
GIVE LINKS I'LL BUY
CAN'T FIND THIS SHIT ON AMIAMI, HLJ OR 1999.

>>57088826
>Lancer
Because they actually want you to be able to win.

>>57088832

>>57088873

>>57088887
It's called the fucking PSN store.
Perhaps you don't live in N. America in that case import the damn game.

>>57088826
>Be lancer
Its like you're asking for a dead end where you sacrifice yourself in the manliest way possible. Or you die like a bitch to true assassin in the first 5 minutes.

>>57088902
>Slutkura whiteknights
Stop defending her bros, even her AI is slutty

>>57088966
I'd rather a slut than a drug addled bitch

Woah, where are you guys getting the height measurements? They don't say them in the game.

Stop insuating that Sakura is a slut guys. She's pure and you're probably just jelly that you don't have a waifu like her.

Luckily for you however,by the time CCC comes out Nasu shall bestow us all with our own personal Sakura's.

>>57088966
lol Sakura got fucked by 3 or 4 dudes and Rin, well more than her

>>57088926
>It's called the fucking PSN store.
>Perhaps you don't live in N. America in that case import the damn game.

I"M ASKING ABOUT CASTER AND SABER PLUSHES, DUMBASS.

>>57088982
Not the same person. Most likely her descendent or relative

the fucking fluffy tail

>>57088966
To be perfectly frank, the majority of females in Fate/Extra are sluts.

Slutber
Slutrin
Slutrani
Slutcaster
Slutkura

Either by dressing like a slut or by throwing out sexual innuendos all the time, they're all pretty slutty.

The only exception is Lil' Ronnie.

>ctrl+f
>enter both
>2 results one of which is regarding whether they both have a penis or not

I am disappoint /a/.

>>57089076
Lil Ronnie is the biggest slut of all. She's fucking Vlad to make more babies to eat.

>>57089016
>mysterious black magus
>purple hair
Oh gee, I wonder who it could be

>>57088832

World's tiniest lion?

>>57089142

>playing Fate/Extra
>In the elevator with a derranged clown
>"Lil Ronnie only eats the things she loves. They're so delicious!"
>"The first time Lil Ronnie had a delicious meal was with her pet canary. It broke its wing and couldn't fly, so she ate it! It was soooo good!"
>"From then on Lil Ronnie only ate the things she loved. Lil Ronnie's momma... Lil Ronnie's papa... everybody she loved, they were delicious!"
>"But the one I loved most was Lil Ronnie's baby."

NOOOOOOPE

UNLIMITED NOPE WORKS

NOPE OF THE DERRANGED

NOPING STONE

THE NOPE CELL AUTOMONOPE

LIVE OR DIE BY THE NOPE. WHAT IS IT YOU HOLD IN YOUR NOPE? CRUMBLING NOPE, DECAYING NOPE, WITHERED NOPE.

>>57089076
Connect the dots bro
>she eats what she loves
>her mama
>her papa
>her baby
>no mention of a husband
>implying she was married
>implying she didn't whore herself out to make babies and get food

>>57089450
I am the bone of my refusal.
Caution is my body, and hesitation is my blood.
I have encountered over a thousand terrors.
Unknown to bravery.
Nor known to courage.
Have withstood fear to create many escape routes.
Yet, those legs will never know rest.
So as I pray, Unlimited NOPE Works

So does the NPC Sakura have NPC worms?

>>57089450
>LIVE OR DIE BY THE NOPE. WHAT IS IT YOU HOLD IN YOUR NOPE? CRUMBLING NOPE, DECAYING NOPE, WITHERED NOPE.
oh man, i can't breathe

>>57089528
Purple hair, and her last name. Also see >>57088796

>>57089528
A worm is a kind of computer virus.

Why is she so pure?

>>57089638
>chicken legs.

Nero syndrome ? Get the two of them some sandwhiches alrady

>>57089638

[x] lovingly caress the fluffy tail

>>57089742

>>57089638

Pure? Ha!

She is nothing but a filthy demon!

Were we in any sort of civil place she would be driven from our presence by the flat of my sword along with all the other prostitutes!

>>57089821
Fuck off Fagwain

>>57089821
Go away, Gawain.

>>57089871
>implying you don't love his trashtalk

>>57089821

How is my Arhcer build after week 2:
STR: C
DEF: C
AGI: D
MAG: E
LCK: E

>>57089821
I'm disappointed that they somehow managed to turn Gawain into a bigger faggot than Lancelot.

This is nothing like my Arthurian texts.

Why doesn't Caster have any Divinity, isn't she the Avatar of a God?

>>57089821
You died a virgin didn't you?

Why is she so perfect?

>>57089914

Get STR on A and Agi on C

>>57089821
It's like Jeanne all over again.

Is that because you used to pass of as Seibah who kinda look like DAT MAIDEN or ?

>>57089941
>Agi on C
No. Agility is worthless.

>>57089932
Because "Perfection" is a Rider class trait. Every Rider is flawlessly magnificent.

>>57089927
>Gawain
>virgin

Bitch please the whole kingdom couldn't contain their orgasms when he was here.
He never got the Grail because he was such a manslut.

>>57089923
But Gawain's smacktalking swagger is awesome.

>>57089821
If only you could summon Lancelot to slap his shit

>>57087592
mah nigga

>>57089993
It's not since it also boosts your minimum damage that you can do.

>>57089932

Ah yes, the filthy pirate slut.

At sea for years on end surrounded on all sides with naught but sea and men!

There is little doubt, I think, in which it was which most often were touched by her disease-ridden body!

>>57089923
Eh, I think he's pretty faithful

>pretty boy
>broken as fuck
>loyalty
>anger issues

They didn't had the time to show his sluttiness and his hardgay moments with Ywain, but still.

>>57090057

Archer of course.

>>57090057

>surrounded on all sides with naught but sea and men!

I see what you did there

>>57089914
Get MAG to C-borderline B if you want to rape everything from week 5.No Servants can resist the might of UBW + skill spam.

>>57090057
>At sea for years on end surrounded on all sides with naught but sea and men!

Dat feel when your Kingu.

>caster is being replaced by Merlin in CCC

I wonder how Gawain would feel about Iskander then? I mean in actual history, the dude practically surfed on other men's asshole

>>57090113
>Get MAG to C
why even bother, i had magic at E and raped gawain with UBW and caladbolg

>>57090123
>lol magic cocks everywhere
>everyone underwears get stolen
>probably magic'ing everyone for shits and giggles

Best Caster of the year, every year.

I have always wondered how
>pagan historians everywhere
became
>christian propaganda

>>57090128
Only his BEST FRIEND FORVER NO HOMO I SWEAR, so it was like Gil tier homolust.

And cute eunuch. But they're like traps without actual cock, so it's okay


And Gawain was pretty bi himself by the way.

>>57090210

Because reading is hard

>>57090223
But Alexander literally used men's asshole as his chariot wagon to invade

HE WAS HARD GAY AND ONLY FUCKED WOMEN FOR POLITICAL REASONS

>>57090223
Ah shit, now I remember Red Saber having a penchant for eunuch shotas. Fucking stop reminding me.

>>57090057
>>57089821

Is it really befitting a noble knight of chivalry and crap to talk shit about women?

>>57090280
If they're a harlot and a wench, yes.

Or a heretic

>>57090266

No

Nero is going to castrate male MC and rape his tight little asshole

How does that make you feel?

Gilgamesh

>>57090280

So you don't like it when he talks smack, but you're fine with him beating the shit out and women and murdering them?

Seems like that's a bit less noble to me

>>57090167
That makes me think about Arthur daily life in Camelot
>Merlin : lol futa, lolunderwears
>Kay : tsundere
>Bedivere : crazy stalker
>Gawain : Fabulous Max
>Lancelot : crawling in his skin

And from Arturia's memories, it seemed like Camelot was the most boring shit in the history of ever and she never smiled or anything. How can she says that when she did played baseball with Kay using swords instead of sticks.

>>57090342
10/10 you're one scary bitch

I've heard that theres ways to upgrade certain skills. How do i upgrade archers skills?

>>57090342
I don't see the problem here. It's one step closer to being the little girl, after all.

>>57090342

But... Nero has a vagina

>>57090342
My butthole started moving on it's own.

>>57090400
Not possible. Only Caster and Saber can upgrade one of their skills.

>>57090400

Go to the temple

That's where you do it

>>57090385
It's not Camelot that was the most boring thing ever. It's just that she was forced to decide a lot and be a man who has anal sex with her brother during a time of tribulations. You can still have enjoyment as a man. One of the reasons Avalon got stolen is because Arturia got drunk after all.

>>57090385
Because Arturia was too busy trying to be THE PROPER KING(tm) instead of, you know, actually living a human existence.

All that crazy shit going on around her was irrelevant to her execution of proper kingship, so she paid it no attention whatsoever.

What a bad king.

>>57090342

>How does that make you feel?

With my hands

>>57090381
If he held back against a woman ready to fight it'll be like admitting Seibah is just a woman and not his rightful King.

No Anon you're the faggot here.

>>57090500
>One of the reasons Avalon got stolen is because Arturia got drunk after all.
True and proper kings need to know how to party after all.

>>57090385
>Bedivere crazy stalker who said he never saw her smile even if he followed her everywhere

I can see her playing knight baseball and the second Bedivere comes along, she pokerface the fuck out of him. No smile for you.

>>57090500
>be a man who has anal sex with her brother during a time of tribulations

You learn a lot of thing when you're a knight's squire. It comes handy sometimes.

>>57087571
right because I am a mammal not a lizard.

>>57090632
Does she get into Alter mode because of the wine ? Must be Merlinmagic again.

>>57090724
Alter only happens if Dark Sakura is the Master.
Otherwise, Seibah just becomes drunk.

>>57090385
Lancelot only becomes crawling in his skin around the end of the story. So in a daily life thing, he'd be fucking Arturia's wife everywhere they can't be seen.

>mfw it's the same text with mc and femc about the clinic's bed making them horny

>>57090808
Slutkura's equal opportunity.

I was thinking of picking up Fate/Extra tomorrow, but I haven't watched or played Fate/stay night before.

Is this still a good entry point in the series? I know it's different from the original and I know the basics of the plot from the original Fate/Stay Night.

I'm hoping for something in line with the Persona games.
If you guys recommend the game, which servant should I start with?

>>57090724

>>57090830
Archer + MC or Caster + FeMC.

>>57090830
Saber - Easy
Archer - Normal
Caster - Hard

>>57090835
Haven't seen that one in a while.

>>57090835
can't remember what was the name of this doujin

>>57090830
>you'll get the gist on how the war works in a way but stick to the VN,more paths to see
>nero easy mode, archer medium mode,caster THE POWER OF LOVE WILL GET ME THROUGH THIS

>>57090861
The difficulty isn't what's important for me. Who is the most enjoyable servant in terms of dialogue and stuff?

wait which right, mine or the monitor?

>>57090850
You mixed them up. Nasu said to do the reverse.

>>57090791
Well to be fair, in the legend he gets Arturia syndrome and thinks he camoflaged his shit like a pro. He basically didn't gave a fuck about anyone warning and he and Guinevere were kissing everywhere, and everyone else had to randomly 360° when they went somewhere in the castle. A miracle Mordred didn't caught them before.

>being all lovey dovey during dinner
>suddenly everyone has some urgent shit to do
>and no one had dessert that evening.

>>57090791
Daily Life in Camelot sounds awesome already.

>>57090923
If you want a smartass pick archer
if you want a waifu pick caster
If you want a whore of Babylon pick Saber

>>57090954
Nasu is a faggot obsessed with mollusks. This is the proper order.

>>57090984
Stop posting, gawain.

>>57090791
He sometimes gets all depressed and shit because "BETRAYAAAAL-oh wait I have a boner, Guinevere where are you ?" and randomly go mad for whatever shitty reason of the month.

>>57090830
I never played F/SN either and I still got the story and such. My advice is to use Saber on the first playthrough, and use Caster for NG+

>>57091013
The true Gawain would have pointed out that Archer's biggest con is his uncuteness.

>>57090984

If you want Gilgamesh pick... oh wait ;_;

>>57091098
No Gilgamesh for mongrels.

>>57090923

>>57090991
>proper
>going against the creator of the game
lol

>hating on Gawain
hah

>>57091098
>If you want Lancer it's "Kill yourself, Lancer"
>If you want Gawain, wait you're not cute enough
>If you want Rider... I don't know why you couldn't because Shinji was a faggot.

>>57091238
Well I like Gawain. Loyal gentleman fond of cute things and doesn't afraid of Sun blocking cheaters.

A shame he doesn't get fanarts.

>>57091264
Why didn't shinji just typed greedisgood 999999 so rider would just one shot everything?

>>57088700

What friendship.
I am moved.

>>57091319
You forgot to put your Frodo face on

So wait...Rider is chilling in Avalon with Shirou and Saber?

>>57091488
Of course not. Where did you get something as stupid as that?

>>57091166

What..? Am I supposed to take it as an insult?

I'm just saying that I can deal with hard games or easy games as long a they're fun. And I want to know who is the most fun servant to play with, since I already know they sort of represent difficulty levels I want to know who has the most entertaining dialogue.

Somebody was asking for the Nero voice pack earlier, mediafire derped but here it is.

http://www.mediafire.com/?js33fgu0490fo4g

>>57091488
If someone were to cockblock them, it would Merlin who decided to woke up from his tree and wanted to indulge in Ye Olde Trollan.

>>57091564

Oh great

Now I get to hear Nero say SOUSHA 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times in a row

>>57091564
glorious, soushayo

>>57091530
From the game.

>>57091564
I have a brilliant idea to tie the soundpack so that she says things when you boot up your computer and such

>>57091557
It means that you should pick Caster. No questions asked.

>>57091557
It depends, from more fun lines that's probably Saber.
For brostatic homolust Archer.
And Caster seems like the most hnggg servant.

>>57090908
I'm also interested in the name of the doujin.

>>57091787

>And Caster seems like the most hnggg servant.

nope.jpg

Saber and Caster are tied

>>57091564
I've posted it loads already, but the Tamamo sound pack is
http://www.mediafire.com/?1fihddb6opw7hga
Enjoy.

>>57091728
Hail the queen and shit. I bet she'd fuck with Shirou just for shit 'n giggles.

Not literally, but messing with him.

>>57091728
>Now that my Round Table is no more, I can't wait to be useless piece of moeblob and be with Shirou for eternit-
>OH MY GOD PIRATES ARE FALLING FROM THE SKY

Avalon is the paradise of Rule 63

>>57087571

Depends

Which one puts out?

>>57091957
Both.

>>57090908
>>57091791
Purple Sky, Golden Dawn.

>>57091728
That has to be a different Avalon. Only Saber can even get into Avalon because it's a world made especially for her.

I just tried this and now I have to clean my nutbladder off of the ceiling.

>>57091957

Caster will be your lover but if you cheat on her she'll castrate you

Saber will be your lover but will probably castrate you because that turns her on

>>57092217
Or possibly Nasu is contradicting herself? *GASP* Who ever heard of such a thing?!?!

>>57092260
Saber will be everyone's lover. Fucking slut.

>>57092217
>Doesnt understand legends and how Avalon was accessible by others

No u.

>You've only found half of them, sorry but you're light years away from being a collector
FUCK. I was doing a rushed second play through, i 100%'d everything the first. What happens if i get all items with archer?

>>57092271
>implying there can only be one avalon
Avalon that Saber has was a world created by her mind and faeries for her. It is her own personal space. The only way to reach it is to either be Saber or be very connected to her. If someone else has their own Avalon.

We don't say all Reality Marbles are the same Reality Marbles after all.

>>57092287
Over here >>57092341
Saber's Avalon in Nasuverse is her own personal domain that no one else can intrude on unless she allows it to happen. Everyone else could have their own Avalons, products of their mind.

>>57092217
>it's a world made especially for her

Where was that stated? Avalon is just the land of fairies.

>>57092341
Except the game states they BOTH dwell in Avalon AND even specifies that it is the same Avalon. Saber is allowed there, Shirou is allowed there, Rider is allowed there, Several other people are as well probably.

>>57092404
In the game. It's not the same as mere legend the same way that Saber is not a man in Nasuverse. Avalon is her NP, not some retarded land of whatchamacallits.
>>57092411
I find that hard to believe. That makes every Avalonfag in every T-M powerlevel thread ever a lying scumbag then.

>>57092411

Guys, this is an 'alternate' world, remember?

If there's any inconsistencies Nasu will just chalk it up to glitches in the matrix or some shit

Working for everyone?
http://www.mediafire.com/?kfxt0d7x0z6ql86

>both are SAID to dwell in Avalon, CITY OF THE DEAD
>Avalon is neither a city nor a place of the dead

So basically, it's a rumor, not a truth?

>Play Fate/extra
>Aww shit new Figurines for Fate/extra come out
>It's Nero and Caster
>No Archer anywhere.

JAPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

I hope the reason for cockblocking is that they are working on an awesome Archer Figure with a huge field of UBW as it's base.

Am I the only one who shat himself when fucking ARCUEID BRUMSTEAD showed up as a servant?

>>57092551
It is. They can say that she stays at Avalon, but the real denizen of Avalon is really just Saber.

>>57092532
Still getting that can not find main class thing despite doing all the suggestions to fix it

>>57092599
I shat bricks after I defeated her.

>>57092629

>implying she didn't let you win just to troll her 'master'

>>57092574
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsWMjLWP5eE
are you not entertained?

>>57092485
If it matters aby, I heard the jap version implied that Rider was queen Elizabeth pretending to be Francis Drake

>>57092609
Even with "java -jar" ?

>>57092659
It doesn't.

>>57092654
Archer looks to derpy and it's a figma. The only figure looks shitty.

>>57092599

Picture and filename was my reaction to her when I encountered her in the JP version

Scared the everliving piss me out of me. I've never agreed with Nasu's "ITS TIME TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS FUCKING DEATH TRAP" narration more than then.

>>57092674
Yes. I've even tried to use a bat to run the command while inside fluffytail.jars folder.

>>57092574
Chill, that Archer Figma is coming.

I'm a leftist, so I'll roll with Saber.

>>57092716
Damn. Did you set the correct JAVA_HOME in your System Variables? And what about the PATH there too?

>>57092736
>figma
sauce and pictures anon. also i will keep my agenda of forcing goodsmile or maxfactory to make an awesome archer figure.

Saber is by no means bad.

But she is way too haughty for my taste, so i would go with Caster.

>>57092411
This makes me wonder if Arc can get on Avalon (at least as Archetype), since Avalon was created by the world and she is the world's greatest authority.

Nero is my choice.
I actually think she is dangerously close to becoming my first real waifu.
I can finally give up all hope of having kids and be like you guys!
I don't mean that, we both know you'll find your waifu one day through magic or some shit and then you can have kids.

>>57092893
Don't forget to use a lot of items on her.

I did all the tasks for taiga on NG+ and i dont see shiki anywhere? Did i miss a triggering item or conversation after having turned in the thermos?

>>57092805

over at >>57092551

If you believe that rumor, then yes, Arcueid can easily penetrate Avalon, since it's just a faerie construction. But it's not just a faerie construction. You guys shouldn't believe "said" as more than rumors.

>>57092805
Doubt it!
At least when its closed of. Nasu will probably handle it like GoB and Ea concerning Arc.

So I'm thinking Caster or Saber for my firstp laythrough of Extra.

Let me hear your people's thoughts.

>>57093150
Saber for 1st, Caster for 2nd

>>57093150
Week 4 got tough. Then it got easy again halfway through week 5.