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    92 KB Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:14 No.56063502  
    I know this is a recommended "classic", but I just can't finish it no matter how hard I try. I forced myself through the manga, however I did enjoy it to an extent. Was anyone else just not into it?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:24 No.56063932
    It's only 14 volumes so just finish it faggot.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:24 No.56063938
    >>56063502

    Only being a horny 12 year old boy with dial-up internet could make you see this in the same light as anyone who called it a classic.

    Megumi was the best of the lot though. The things I would have done to her back in the day.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:25 No.56064001
    >>56063502
    I read through it, liked it a lot.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:26 No.56064012
    >>56063932

    Already did. Read the OP

    >>56063938

    Ok so then why do people suggest it all the time as one of the baseline animes?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:27 No.56064066
    >>56063938
    THIS. The only way you can really apreciate LH is if you watched it 10 years ago, after leaving the computer on all night while downloading the whole series from Kazaa.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:27 No.56064084
    >classic
    >recommended
    haha, no it's not. after volume 8 it's shit and dualtranslations only suffered through it because of how much they already did.

    it's also nothing more than maison ikkoku with harem and a generic tsunedere bitch.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:28 No.56064093
    >>56063932
    >>56064001

    IMO, same premise, but different aim, I thought Ai Kora was waaaay better
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:28 No.56064103
    >>56064012

    Because we all watched/read it, you should too.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:29 No.56064133
    >>56064084

    10/10. The translations were/are shit.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:29 No.56064170
    The anime was an abortion. Don't bother with it.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:30 No.56064177
    >>56064093
    I liked Ai Kora too

    but I still loved Love Hina
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:30 No.56064178
    >>56064103

    I'm 12/24(25?) episodes in, but I always find something else to watch over it.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:30 No.56064183
    >>56063938

    >Megumi
    >not Kanako

    NOPE
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:30 No.56064207
    >>56063502
    Hold up, are you saying you tried to watch the anime? Don't watch the anime you fool, it's god awful. The manga is good, but it doesn't quite hold up these days.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:30 No.56064213
    The construction of harem
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:31 No.56064223
    >>56064170

    I heard LH:Again was even worse. English dub was bad too.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:31 No.56064238
    Motoko was meant to win.
    But Naru was more popular with the fans.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:31 No.56064253
    Loved this back in the day.

    Only recently concluded that the main characters are pathetic and beta as fuck, and wondered how I could stand this back in the day.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:32 No.56064269
    >>56064207

    Ok so it's not just me then. I enjoyed the Manga, however it was a bit of a forced read at times, but the anime is just killing me.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:32 No.56064282
    >>56064012

    Because it's well known. It's like liking movies and not watching Citizen Kane or Winter's Light.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:32 No.56064289
    >>56064238
    No, Naru was always the winner, but Motoko was the most popular, that's why he cut her hair near the end.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:33 No.56064306
    >>56064213
    The deconstruction of the love triangle genre.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:33 No.56064308
    no, op. it was shit 10 years ago too
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:33 No.56064315
    >>56064238

    GODDAMMIT JAPAN

    But Kanako was better than either anyway.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:33 No.56064335
    Harem is bad.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:33 No.56064338
    It gave birth to many cliche settings right now. Characters, premise etc.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:34 No.56064349
    >ken akamatsu
    over hyped shit tear mangaka. only cares about the dollar and not the readers. only fools read that shit.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:34 No.56064398
    >>56064282

    Fair enough. Is it worth my time to watch the last 12-13 episodes though? Is it THAT different from the manga that I would be missing anything?

    >>56064238

    I've never hated a character more than I've hated Naru, simply because I've been subjected to evil women like that. It's not Naru's fault though
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:35 No.56064429
    for one Love Hina is kind of the first of those cliched harem series (their were harem series, but they were nothing alike these current harems)

    what sets Love Hina apart from the other harem (including many of those before them) was the development

    the characters are not completely likable at first (especially not Naru) but they do grow out of their annoying traits into better people

    and it makes the fact that the harem is after the MC more justified, since many of them hated him at first
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:35 No.56064448
    It's a classic. I enjoyed it too.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:37 No.56064516
    >>56064429
    See that makes sense. It seems that I'm just watching something that was big 10 years ago, and now anything groundbreaking or special is now commonplace or over used.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:37 No.56064527
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    I saw the Anime when it came out in 2000. Its really kind of a show you needed to watch when it was new. By now, dozens of other shows have copied it, some doing the concept better.

    At the time, more people were watching it for the unique digital art design and the hot girls. But I still contend the characters and plot are okay. But again, other shows have done the same thing but improved on it.

    Also, Mutsumi was my Waifu for a long time.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:38 No.56064559
    >>56064012
    LH popularized or created a lot of the foundations for harem stories that we have now. It's also a pretty common introductory series for newer (at the time) anime/manga fans. See:

    >>56063938
    >>56064066
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:38 No.56064568
    At least it avoids the same face syndrome that afflicts Negima.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:38 No.56064578
    >>56064516
    like Azumanga, FFVII, and Evangelion
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:39 No.56064594
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    Naru was, objectively, the best girl.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:39 No.56064628
    >>56064594
    no you piece of shit
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:40 No.56064638
    >>56064527

    Mutsumi was definable one of the best of the series, good taste /a/non. Maybe it just doesn't age well though. I'm watching Initial D: First stage as well and I'm loving it! It's about the same age too, underused genre perhaps?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:40 No.56064674
    >watching the Love Hina anime after reading the manga

    Why?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:41 No.56064701
    >>56064568
    You've got to be kidding.

    I was talking to a friend that started reading Negima before I did, and his description was "It's okay, but there's like 5 Motokos, 3 Narus, 2 Shinobus, etc etc etc"
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:41 No.56064705
    >>56064527
    Wait, you.... you left your waifu?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:42 No.56064739
    >>56064578

    Well I'll be giving Eva a shot, some seem to age well, but I'll be the judge of that once I manage to find time.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:42 No.56064754
    It's the gateway manga of the best kind
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:42 No.56064771
    I loved Motoko better than anyone because she is basically a real tsundere

    at the beginning she wanted nothing more than to kill the MC

    but at the end (especially in the manga) none of her Tsuntsun tendencies are there anymore and even in the timeskip (which was shit and just made me want more) you actually see that she turned into a mature person
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:43 No.56064785
    I always assumed shit like this and Negima were for Girls
    Who told you this was good?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:43 No.56064790
    >>56064084

    >maison ikkoku

    Seriously guys, watch/read this instead.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:43 No.56064797
    >>56064638
    Definitely a factor.

    There's been so many clones, and clones of those clones, that a person that watches that type of show or reads that type of manga can already tell exactly how LH is going to play out.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:43 No.56064808
    I felt Love Hina was the ultimate victim of circumstances series. Even more than the shit in Ranma 1/2.

    It was good for it's time because it was all we had, in retrospect it didn't age well.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:43 No.56064820
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    >>56064628

    I found her character charming and pulchritudinous, and I was happy when she got together with Keitaro.

    You guys just have inferior mockable taste in women.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:43 No.56064826
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    >>56064790

    forgot my pic
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:44 No.56064850
    >>56064754
    not really
    I regret the horrible haremshit I went through because of it
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:44 No.56064870
    The manga is way better, but I actually really enjoyed the anime myself.

    It's not an acceptable substitute for actually reading the manga, but it's pretty good in my opinion.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:44 No.56064875
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    Left: Perfectly cute
    Right: Looks like she has Downs.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:45 No.56064910
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    Here's a superior series.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:45 No.56064920
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    >>56064875

    >not posting superior adult version shinobu

    the fuck are you doing?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:46 No.56064929
    >>56064808
    I still thought the manga aged well (as long as you still have tolerance for the harem cliches it's still one of the best)

    but the anime definitely didn't
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:46 No.56064933
    >>56064797

    It's unfortunate though, I seem to see alot of "standard" genres being put out, but nothing too to different or boundary pushing. Yeah I'm new-ish the /a/, but I'm slowly learning!
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:47 No.56064967
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    >>56064910
    pic related
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:47 No.56064978
    /r/ing good tsundere/bad tsundere pic
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:47 No.56064989
    Only watched the anime, it was ok.
    Shinobu was cute, OP+ED were excellent, but overall it just doesn't stand out.

    I fucking love Negima
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:47 No.56064998
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    >implying I wouldn't watch the shit out of a Love Hina anime remake that followed the manga 1:1

    Most of /a/ would too

    and troll the shit out of its threads
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:47 No.56065017
    >>56064875

    10/10, She was MUCH better left to the imagination, and not the horrible portal in the Anime
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:48 No.56065052
    >>56064998

    OP here, Fuck yes.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:48 No.56065055
    >>56064998
    this
    this
    and this

    and I would probably appreciate it given it was also babby's first RAGE series
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:49 No.56065071
    Love hina was my first manga (and only one in my country) which got me into anime and manga. I loved it to pieces, as did most guys, from matcho hardasses to effimate faggots that made up as medics in the army where we shared the books. I would never have though these people would enjoy it so much now, some years later. It's really great for an introduction manga.

    However, reading it now, it simply doesn't hold the magic anymore because i've seen every clique a thousands times in dozens of mangas and animes. Because of that, when i tried to watch the anime some time back, i cringed and couldn't finish more than a few episodes.

    I love it for nostalgic reasons, but have you read alot of mangas before this one, it will probably not hold you as much as those who got into manga via LH
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:49 No.56065093
    With the exception of the OP/ED, there is nothing worthwhile concerning the Love Hina anime, the ovas or the specials.

    After watching that shit, I read the Love Hina manga. While it's not a good story, it was a shitload better than the anime.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:50 No.56065113
    >>56064920
    Oh god those horrible quality scans.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:50 No.56065139
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    >>56064705

    >Wait, you.... you left your waifu?

    No, I just found my Waifu was someone else all along and returned to her.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:51 No.56065146
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    >2002
    >Love Hina was my first anime
    >the story is left unfinished
    >lurk the interwebs, discover the manga
    >realize the anime was shit and it destroyed Naru's character
    >first waifu obtained
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:51 No.56065158
    >>56064910
    OH NO WE'RE GOING TO SLEEP IN THE SAME FUTON
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:52 No.56065191
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    If most harem anime these days are clones of Love Hina, why are the leads so inferior to Keitaro? Keitaro had to work very hard for 2-3 years to get (first) the girl's friendship and (later) their love, while current MC (like Ichika) get all the pussy of the world just by having a penis attached to them.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:52 No.56065204
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    Left: looks like a guy in drag
    Right: HHHHHHHHHGGGGGGNNNNNN
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:52 No.56065220
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    >>56065158
    Wait until you see the author's next work.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:52 No.56065227
    >>56065071

    I think that's where the magic of the series came from. It's a different beast from a different time.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:53 No.56065248
    >>56064998
    A Ken Akamatsu manga will never get a good adaptation. I'm sure the universe will fall in on itself if that ever happened.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:54 No.56065282
    >>56065204

    OFT
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:54 No.56065288
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    >>56065113
    >mfw I read the entire manga series from the Library
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:54 No.56065305
    It was extremely repetitive and had one of the worst tsunderes ever. Also Keitaro was supposed to end up with Motoko, but Akamatsu changed it at the last minute. Motoko gets most character development in the whole series.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:55 No.56065318
    >>56065191
    That's the problem; they're copycats who never figured what was special about it.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:55 No.56065331
    >>56065248
    The latest Negima OVAs actually stick hard to the manga, and turn out quite well for it. Still waiting for the movie to be subbed though.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:56 No.56065347
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    >>56065146

    I also geeked out like a mother fucker when this panel
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:56 No.56065369
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    >>56065191
    because Love Hina had Seta
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:57 No.56065398
    >>56065305

    >Also Keitaro was supposed to end up with Motoko, but Akamatsu changed it at the last minute

    [citation needed]

    Otherwise, stop it with the fanwankery.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:57 No.56065414
    >>56065305

    That's what's keeping me from finishing the Anime, and what left me bored with the manga a lot of the time. "AMIGAWD THERE FINALLY GONNA GET TOGETHER!" nope.jpg . I don't want to go through that again.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:58 No.56065453
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    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:59 No.56065474
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    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)19:59 No.56065503
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    By the way, Kitsune was the best girl.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:00 No.56065506
    >>56065369
    Is it bad that I wanted Seta to ntr Naru from Keitaro?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:00 No.56065527
    >>56064516
    That's pretty much what it is, at the time Love Hina broke quite a bit of ground, and brought together a lot of elements in a way that made it THE staple of its genre.
    10 years later though it has been done to death by other series, and before even trying to watch you had probably already seen almost everything that it did in other series, and those series probably did what LH did, BETTER than LH did it when it came out.
    In fact there are probably better benchmarks of that particular type of harem now.
    I still remember liking it though, although I wasn't nearly as picky back in my early days. Probably because of this >>56064066
    although I used kazaalite
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:01 No.56065549
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    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:01 No.56065555
    >>56065453
    >>56065474

    Kitsune > All

    Why did they ruin her in the Anime with that fucking southerner voice? Fucking killed it.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:01 No.56065569
    >>56065503
    MAH NIGGA
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:01 No.56065579
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    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:02 No.56065582
    >>56064910
    that shit was so fucking boring
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:02 No.56065593
    The OST was really good.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:02 No.56065606
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    Classic
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:02 No.56065607
    >>56065506
    when he was introduced I would've said yes

    now, not really
    bastard deserved fuck whoever he wants after the shit he pulled
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:03 No.56065632
    >>56065527

    >Holy shit! 200Kbps! I can download music in under a minute!
    >Lasts 10 seconds
    feelsbadman.jpg

    I remember using Kazzaa. Brings back memories, good ones.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:04 No.56065642
    >>56065582
    OH...GOD
    I remember barely finishing the original series, having the sequel on my computer, and being like fuck it and moving on to something else.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:07 No.56065719
    >>56065305
    >Also Keitaro was supposed to end up with Motoko, but Akamatsu changed it at the last minute.

    How the hell did this myth start? Naru was obviously the winner from the very beginning. At any rate, Keitaro fell for her pretty early on, which is something you don't see much in later harems: the guy actually has obvious feelings for one of the girls.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:08 No.56065746
    >>56065719
    I actually thought Matoko would take him from Naru for a bit there.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:09 No.56065794
    >>56065746
    Sorry Mitsumi not Matoko.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:10 No.56065825
    >>56064910
    I hate this series with a passion. When it first come out, I was like, oh look another harem. As I just finished Chobits (?) I needed another romance series, so I started following it.

    ...IF YOU WANT A SUBMISSIVE DOLL OF A WOMAN, WHY DON"T YOU JUST BUY AN INFLATABLE DOLL. This series repulses me in a way that no other series has done. I mean, just because he is your arranged fiance doesn't mean you have to act like a fucking slave. Do you have a mind of your own woman? Jesus I was only about 14 back then, but even I knew this is just retarded Japanese Yamato bullshit.

    No, I am not a feminist (quite opposite of one, actually), but this series really touched (still does, somewhat) my nerve.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:11 No.56065843
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    >>56065719

    Ken said it himself. About halfway threw he was thinking of switching from Naru but changed his mind because of all the foreshadowing and set up he had already done.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:11 No.56065854
    >>56065746
    Secondary Girl Syndrome. Late in the story, the author develops the #2 girl so much that she becomes more appealing than the heroine, but alas she can never win.

    This is a complement to Main Girl Syndrome, where the heroine gets neglected midway through the story because she can't be developed much further without actually hooking her up with the main character; also, she tends to be less interesting than the secondary characters.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:11 No.56065860
    the series confirmed that Motoko as 16 years old and Keitaro 20 years old (it's more apparent in the manga than the anime)

    so I doubt Motoko was going to be the lead girl in any case the rough draft maybe, but not the original series (said rough draft had Shinobu being the tsundere)
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:16 No.56065992
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    Only newfags don't think this is a classic.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:17 No.56066035
    >LH
    >Laying the grounds for harem romantic comedy in manga/anime

    what the fuck am i reading? Tenchi was the production model, not LH. And the harem angle had been pioneered long before even that series. LH streamlined nothing, not even the concept of the blank slate protagonist getting overly lucky or growing on women's hearts. THAT plot line had been done forever via datesims and nukige (before Visual Novels grew popular).

    LH is breakthrough only to westerners who were 12 at the time. It wasn't bad at all (baring the anime, which did suck mightily), but call the spade the spade.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:17 No.56066046
    >>56065860
    At the very beginning Motoko was 15 and Keitaro 19.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:18 No.56066068
    >>56065642
    And we have already discussed the completely logical reasons for it. I know for a fact that if i suddenly started now, i wouldn't enjoy it nearly as much as then,
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:19 No.56066113
    >2000
    >using kazaa and not DC++

    ishygddt, etc..
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:20 No.56066132
    >>56066035
    besides the "Asexual MC" and "harem instantly after his cock" Tenchi doesn't have much in common with modern harems
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:21 No.56066177
    >>56066132
    though one could argue that's the only thing modern harems have
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:21 No.56066189
    >>56066068
    Derp, meant for >>56065992, obviously
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:23 No.56066257
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    >>56065549
    >>56065579
    >>56065606

    Oh God. It still has its charms. Time to reread this shit.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:23 No.56066258
    >>56065843
    [citation still needed]
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:24 No.56066261
    >>56066035
    No. Before LH, almost all harem series take the following 2 forms-

    1. Either you are like Tenchi where the romance comedic harem is coupled with another genre. For example, Tenchi (and Nadesico) are sci-fi + harem. Or Renma is fighting + harem.
    2. Or you are like maison ikkoku or I's where the romance is actually the main element, and the comedic element takes a back seat.
    (funny enough, by mid 90s they have all but disappeared. People back then were tired of them.)

    It seemed that a slice of life comedic harem series would not be successful. LH changed all these by creating the ideal mixture of comedy, romance and advance drawing. This is why it is famous.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:26 No.56066347
    I didn't find Naru annoying at all. I actually find the making-keitaro-fly-with-a-punch funny. It's not like it really looks violent.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:26 No.56066349
    >>56066261
    Love Hina is not a SoL.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:27 No.56066373
    >>56065825
    the whole yamato nadeshiko archetype makes me puke my fucking guts up every time
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:27 No.56066387
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    >>56066261
    >advance drawing
    >love hina
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:27 No.56066389
    >>56066349
    Fine, a harem event set in the real world, where the characters are not anyone special.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:28 No.56066400
    >>56066347
    I found it funny at first
    then I got used to it and found it irritating especially the non-punch to the sky tsundere actions she did
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:29 No.56066420
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    >>56066261
    lol lots of newfags think harem should be about all the girls in the anime to want the MC's cock within an episode.

    >>56066349
    Stop redefining SoL in every thread.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:29 No.56066430
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    >>56065191
    Gratification. Editors likely got demanding seeing how Akamatsu printed money with every book (enough that the demanded 6 more volumes worth of stories after the damn thing came to a logical conclusion). Publishers wanted more of that pie that finally sold mainstream instead of to lonely otaku with computers, lube, bacon, and a case of Pocari Sweat (Anyone who's played Season of the Sakura, Tokimeki, or any other like game now knows the original target audience of Love Hina).

    They could bleach the original intent of the story (because we all know Keitarou would've nailed every single one if it stuck to core foundations of its mechanics), crank up the sexual appeal and slapstick, and boom--instant printing machine. But they chose to amp up the Tits and the Tropes (Tsundere, Wallflower, Drunken Party Girl, Shameless Eccentric, Hippie McFreelove, Even MORE Tsundere, etc) and make each MC more blank/unassuming than before. Sacrificed story or even genuine development for bang & flash.

    And all audiences ate it up because they were really, really looking for the next LH high. Harem was, and sometimes still is, a hell of a drug.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:29 No.56066438
    >>56066387
    Come on, open up a Sunday magazine from the late 90s. You can see the drawing style started to shift majorly. Characters were drawn with more straight lines (as oppose to the simple curve lines used in the early 90s, or the CLAMP tons-of-lines style). LH just caught the wave of it.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:30 No.56066447
    Animu sucked.
    Manga was great.
    Harem with best ending, I always wanted more after re-reading this.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:30 No.56066459
    >>56066420
    >Stop redefining SoL in every thread.
    Nah, you should learn what SoL actually means.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:31 No.56066488
    >>56066389
    >Motoko is the heir of a demon hunter clan
    >Kaolla is a princess and a mad scientist
    Yeah, everybody is normal
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:32 No.56066515
    >>56066459
    I'd have to guess your definition of SoL is to the dot. Which means you don't watch anime.
    >> sacchaRIN !SWEETOIeZA 10/17/11(Mon)20:33 No.56066556
    sudden wave of nostalgia.

    Also, pleasantly surprised at a 100+ reply thread about Love Hina.

    In all honesty, taking off the nostalgia goggles, right now the series is mediocre, but at the time it was very enjoyable. Naru was the reason I started liking long hair. It was also the reason I started writing shitty fanfiction
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:33 No.56066562
    >>56066515
    Enlighten me. What does SoL means.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:33 No.56066566
    >>56066488

    OP here, I think what he's saying is the characters are still plausible. They aren't Mary sue's and whatnot
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:33 No.56066567
    >>56066488
    Plot elements, you've heard of it? Do their background changed the core of the story in any way?

    I am talking about the main characters being normal people, going through (at least for the first 2/3) normal things in their life.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:35 No.56066610
    >>56066562
    An episode of actual experience represented realistically and with little alteration in a dramatic, fictional, or journalistic work.
    -thefreedictionary.com
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:35 No.56066618
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    >that feel of emptiness after reading Love Hina for the first time

    That ending. 11/10
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:35 No.56066621
    >>56066556

    I'm a complete newfag and I made a decent thread. Am I doing it right?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:35 No.56066640
    >>56066562
    Slice of life is a phrase describing the use of mundane realism depicting everyday experiences in art and entertainment
    -wikipedia
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:36 No.56066649
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    >>56066610
    >with little alteration in a dramatic, fictional, or journalistic work.
    Whoa, this clearly defines LH!
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:36 No.56066662
    >>56066562
    a series where nothing happens
    -/a/
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:36 No.56066671
    >>56066649
    You finally agree. God I thought it was gonna take forever
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:37 No.56066681
    I liked it but I don't know if I'd call it a classic.

    Just recently re-read tokyopop translation, man were they lazy.

    He should've ended up with anyone but Naru.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:37 No.56066684
    >>56066618

    I know that feel bro. As much as I struggled through the manga, the ending left me complete. I was more than satisfied.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:37 No.56066691
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    >>56066671
    This is how gullible LH fans are.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:37 No.56066696
    >>56066132
    You mean "whimpy" MC, not asexual. And there were plenty of conventions in Tenchi recreated through numerous mango and anime, though even THOSE conventions didn't start with Tenchi--he's simply the streamlined model.

    Your bath adventures. Exotic location staring schoolboy and his harem. First Girl Wins. Shy adorable sister with a crush/love. Adults Turn the Blind Eye. Crouching wimp, hidden badass. Transformation/conversion hijinks (more a Ranma-recognized staple than Tenchi, though). Maintaining the status quo for as long as possible.

    The only thing Tenchi did different than most of its successors is a genuine Harem Ending.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:38 No.56066713
    Fuck you guys, the christmas special was 10/fucking10

    And OP if you had to force yourself through the manga then you are a certified fag.
    And animes is not a word, idiot.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:38 No.56066738
    Love Hina: mediocre show that the new generation won't dare touch. Just like Ranma.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:39 No.56066744
    >>56066556
    it wasn't mediocre as it was ok

    it has the harem cliche that are annoying now
    but it also has the character development that makes it better than more harem series

    it's one of the great harem series, but that's not saying much due to the overall quality of the genre
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:39 No.56066750
    >>56066691
    Yes, very gullible. I believe the world is flat, Jesus came back from the dead, the world will end in 2012. Its good to find someone else that understands.
    I also believe sarcasm does not exist.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:40 No.56066770
    >>56066713

    0/10

    You should read the thread before posting.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:40 No.56066775
    Urg... everytime they started to do crazy things like travel around I wanted to barf.

    I wouldn't recommend it today.
    >> sacchaRIN !SWEETOIeZA 10/17/11(Mon)20:40 No.56066777
    slapstick comedy, romance, with just a hint of drama.

    >>56066618

    I remember finishing the manga and just sort of sitting there in a feel-good moment. also slightly lonely because forever alone never married etc ;_;
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:41 No.56066805
    Thankfully nobody reads or watches this trash anymore.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:42 No.56066860
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    >>56066805
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:42 No.56066863
    >>56066805
    >nobody watches harems anymore

    how troll r u?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:43 No.56066876
    >>56065632
    >>56066113
    I never liked DC++, I did use winMX for a little while though, but klite was still better in every way other than occasionally stuff would show up faster on winMX
    I actually got into bittorrent/bittornado really early on though, back when animesuki was an amazing site for just how massive of a library it had and how good the download times were.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:43 No.56066878
    >Or Renma is fighting + harem.

    Seriously asking, did you READ Ranma 1/2 after vol 7?

    >Or you are like maison ikkoku or I's

    I"s wasn't harem. It was romance. There WERE no harem elements. It was Ichitaka chasing after one girl with many, MANY sidetracks. And those types of stories are still done today (as /a/ frequently loves kimi no RAGE for some bizarre reason). Try not to confuse romance with romantic comedy or harem.

    >SOL, advance drawing
    5/10. Because I replied seriously anyway.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:44 No.56066902
    Love hina had god tier character developments that you won't see in any other harem shit you all faggots talking about.

    The setting can be cliche as fuck but as long as the character development is good the story will turn out interesting and enjoyable.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:45 No.56066946
    >>56066035
    Tenchi was a clearly different genre of harem in my mind, for one Keitaro wasn't completely asexual like Tenchi.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:45 No.56066949
    >>56066878

    >Seriously asking, did you READ Ranma 1/2 after vol 7?

    It's like calling Negima lolharem, because it really is shounen fightan with just a dose of harem antics (because that's what get akamatsu paid, apparently)
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:46 No.56066986
    >>56066878

    You don't know what you are talking about. You don't even know what a harem is. Please shut up.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:47 No.56067007
    People used to call it shit when it came out, too, and I remember there being an overwhelming amount of antipathy towards the series not long after it ended (even though the ending was great... just maybe took a few too many volumes to get there).

    People just like to shit on harem series. I mean, I "get" that they're generally horrible, but as far as romantic series go, Love Hina was a pretty mainstream one with a lot of likable characters with redeemable qualities. It is a great read for young adults. I mean there is even some degree of relational normalcy in that series, even if it is rather immature... people like to call Naru a bitch, but the relationships between young men and women are often defined by that kind of love-hate behavior. Most people don't tend to learn or appreciate or let themselves feel much tenderness until they leave adolescence.

    It is a good series to read, and much more normal than the cornucopia of bizarre fetishes you see in most other harem series aimed at adults.

    >>56064910
    ai yori aoishi is boring as shit.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:47 No.56067020
    one thing I loved most about Love Hina was the second act

    -Kanako trolls the Harem
    -Keitaro Mans up and goes to Toudai
    -Seta and Haruka gets together
    -Naru gets the spot-light thus she has to now deal with half the shit that the MC had to deal with
    -full circle maturity for Motoko
    only thing that pissed me off was the constant cock-blocking scenes

    harems today may have copied the first Act word for word, but if I find a harem with the second part, I'm watching it
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:49 No.56067145
    >>56066878
    >implying chasing only one woman makes a series non-harem
    THEN THERE'S THAT IDIOT
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:49 No.56067147
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    >people thinking LH pioneered anything at all
    This thread is just sad.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:49 No.56067149
    >>56066946
    >>56066949
    >>56066986
    Oh you.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:50 No.56067233
    >>56067007

    I'm not trying to say that I hate the series or anything, but the anime specifically is just impossible to watch. I read the manga all the way through, and I'm glad I did. The ending left me happy and fulfilled, but it was still a semi-forced read after the first 70 chapters because of it's repetition.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:51 No.56067240
    >>56066902
    That's true. In most harems now, the ultra-beta MC is surrounded with beautiful women who hunger for his flaccid cock right off the bat.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:51 No.56067241
    >>56067147
    no your just retarded
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:51 No.56067255
    >>56067020
    a lot of people accused LH of running out of ideas when that stuff started happening (and when the indinana jones type stuff started up in full force they may have had a point) but, yeah, I enjoyed that aspect too. The series never really leaves harem territory, but at least wrestles with the idea of what the other characters actually do when they discover they are all in love with this protagonist but they MIGHT NOT end up being the one he's gonna go for.

    Of course, they all end up in this weird state of perpetual maidenhood by the end anyway, but it's nice that there's some development into the idea of why they might be okay with that.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:52 No.56067271
    >>56066878
    Did you see what I was typing?

    I said Ranma 1/2 is a fighting series with rom-comedy + harem, but the harem stuff is not the main focus.

    Or when I said that I's is a SERIOUS romance (no sarcasm here) with harem as secondary? (Come on, you mean 2 girls chasing after 1 guy is not?)

    Jesus. I am not saying they are bad. They influenced a generation of Japanese males for god's sake. I am explaining why LH is popular and why it is so.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:52 No.56067276
    >>56067020

    Are you implying that I should watch the last half of the series? Ive only watched up to Ep. 12
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:52 No.56067302
    >>56066902
    this
    it's not the cliches, it's how it's executed/developed
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:52 No.56067304
    >>56067147

    Love Hna didn't invent anything. But it inspired dozens of similar shows like Zero no Tsukasima and Working.

    Just like Mahoromatic opened up the door to crap like Green Green, Kanokon and etc.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:53 No.56067318
    >>56067276
    no he's talking about the manga where all that stuff happens
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:53 No.56067348
    >>56067276
    >watched
    >Ep.

    yeah you can only get this in the manga (it's cut out for the OVA which butchered it)
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:54 No.56067354
    >>56067318

    Ok. Thanks for clearing that up.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:54 No.56067361
    >>56067145

    /a/ doesn't even know what the meaning of Harem nowadays.

    All they know are buzzwords like moeshit, DEEPshit, pretentious shit

    oh wait.. they also don't what the meaning of all those
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:56 No.56067434
    >>56067271
    Maybe I should clarify here. It's only until vol 5 that Keitaro settles on Naru, even though the other girls love him.

    Compare that to I's, where the mangaka had to draw an alternate ending to satisfy the losing girl's fans. You tell me which one is more harem.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:57 No.56067467
    >>56065579
    Goddamn Naru is delicious in this page.
    Just..goddamn.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)20:58 No.56067508
    >>56067304
    I actually liked Mahoromatic too...
    Dear god though, Green Green, that was one of the most painful series I ever sat through.
    >> sacchaRIN !SWEETOIeZA 10/17/11(Mon)20:59 No.56067563
    >>56067467

    Akamatsu at least had a knack for drawing attractive females.

    >>56067434

    >draw an alternate ending to satisfy the losing girl's fans.

    What. I guess I liked Iori enough where I never actually knew about this.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:00 No.56067567
    >>56067255
    but at least we see them develop into maidens
    instead of it just being thrown out there

    and when Keitaro confesses to Naru he never truly takes it back

    and what I liked about Keitaro, he was determined, if he wanted something he would literally break every bone in his body to get it
    he WILL go to Toudai
    he WILL be a good manager
    he WILL ask out his childhood friend and live happily ever after
    he is weak, he is stupid, he is a loser
    but goddammit he'll do all this shit because he is Keitaro fucking Urashima


    never again will I question why he deserves his harem
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:00 No.56067598
    OP here, I'm outta here. Thanks for the discussion.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:01 No.56067617
    >>56067233
    Yeah if you can't watch the anime I don't blame you. It's been a long time since I've read the manga or watched the series, but I remember the "feel" being off in the anime, plus all the characters looked all wrong and chubby.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:01 No.56067635
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    I think what a lot of people need to set back and remember here is that LN is not strictly a Harem manga. While the other girls do fight over him to an extent. There is always one main girl and ends with a girl getting picked.
    >> sacchaRIN !SWEETOIeZA 10/17/11(Mon)21:02 No.56067640
    >>56067567

    Yeah, Keitaro did have that going for him. Can't criticize him for not trying.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:03 No.56067742
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    I sat through the whole series, plus Again, because I thought "OH, CLASSIC HAREM ANIME, RIGHT!?" and because of the Love Hina Date Sim RPG I played on NG.
    >mfw I finished the series

    Seriously, what a load of shit. One of the few anime series I've seen where there really is FORCED DRAMA. KEITARO AND NARU, WHY ARE BOTH OF YOU SO FUCKING STUPID!?!?
    AND WHY DIDN'T YOU PICK MOTOKO!? Tall, Dark, and Bishoujo are ALWAYS THE BEST.

    Why the girls lusted over Keitaro's cock was beyond me.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:03 No.56067755
    >>56067635

    You're confusing the genre Harem with "Harem End"
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    >>56067567

    >he is weak, he is stupid, he is a loser

    Umm dude what. By the end he is able to fight seta and makoto pretty well not to count hes pretty much invincible
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:05 No.56067868
    >>56067742

    >anime

    You did it wrong. Akamatsu is cursed to have all his works to have a shit anime adaptation.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:05 No.56067886
    >>56067567
    >deserves his Harem
    There weren't many protagonists who "deserved their Harem," and Keitaro is definitely NOT ONE OF THEM.
    >> sacchaRIN !SWEETOIeZA 10/17/11(Mon)21:05 No.56067891
    >>56067742

    >watching the anime

    there's your problem. The manga was superior in quite a few ways.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:06 No.56067909
    >>56067271
    Except Ranma 1/2 isn't a fighting series by the trends of then or now. Fighting was a draw, but the focus was primarily in romantic comedy, misunderstandings, and hijinks adventures. No one really took Ranma's fighting ability seriously like they would in say, FotNS or one of the SJ favorites. The story DOES dip into moments of extreme badass or serious, but the majority of the time it's not Ranma training to be the best. It's Ranma's already flipping awesome but has to go through whacky circumstances to win against his opponent (if he DOES win). Shit, how does one take Martial Arts Tea Ceremony seriously?

    It's a romantic comedy/harem/adventure series with fighting. But hey, this may just be nitpicking.

    Also, I didn't slam I"s (although I could and it would rightfully deserve it, because fuck Katsura and his dick-teasing story styles). I LIKED I"s and have the blueballs to show it. But that still doesn't make it the least bit harem. For one, it took itself far too seriously to be related to any sort of harem. There were no side adventures or debate over which girl would win--the story-telling elements are were different from what you'd find in earlier or production model harem stories (where girls are actively fighting over MC's cock. Iori spent more than half the story going "Not Sure If Want" like she had other prospects she could chase. Itsuki was a flash in the pan to basically make readers feel bad about the boner they popped the instant she showed up).

    teel deering they're difference sets within a Romance category--two very different creatures. D.N.A.^2 would quicker qualify for something haremesque than I"s would.

    And yeah, I agree--all of those series helped to mold Japan's soronery crew into the fantastic cash machine it is today.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:07 No.56067959
    >>56067886

    The lesson to take away from Love Hina is that if you work really hard and are a nice and honest guy, you'll have women all over you, eventually.


    So, typical anime bullshit.


    but I still ate it up
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:07 No.56067967
    >>56067803
    ok then "WAS" stupid, weak, and a loser
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:08 No.56067976
    >>56067742

    >because of the Love Hina Date Sim RPG I played on NG.

    My nigga
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:09 No.56068003
    >>56067886
    >NOT ONE OF THEM.

    excellent argument
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:09 No.56068006
    >>56067755
    >You're confusing the genre Harem with "Harem End"
    FUCKING THIS

    Fucking idiots think this way and say harems are not harems because of picking one girl.

    FUCKING LEARN THE GENRE, YOU DUMBFUCKS.

    Harem has always been 3 or more girls around an MC. This has been the definition for the harem genre in either Japan OR America.

    It's like you guys were fucking born in 2005.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:09 No.56068042
    >>56065843

    Wasn't Naru based on his girlfriend (who later dumped his beta ass)?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:10 No.56068078
    >>56067886

    and why? You're like one of those people who spout "THIS ANIME IS SHIT" without giving any reason.

    Oh wait you're not like them, you are.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:10 No.56068106
    >>56067959
    except typical harem MCs don't do shit to get their harem
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:11 No.56068148
    >>56065843

    This would have been quite the tweeeeeest


    and I would have probably cried since I liked Naru and first girl always wins
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:11 No.56068167
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    >>56067976
    That game was fucking LEGENDARY. Especially all of the cussing and humor and shit.

    >>56068003
    You remember Color Wars? NOW THAT MOTHERFUCKER DESERVED HIS HAREM.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:13 No.56068242
    Great characters, great humor.

    Fuck the haters.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:14 No.56068248
    >>56068006

    The difference is, while Love Hina is a 'Harem', there's only 2 girls who actively interact with the MC in persuing a relationship.

    The problem is, due to a lot of bad shows around 2003-2005, people automatically think a 'Harem' show means every girl in thew show wants the MC balls. And it doesn't work that way. The 'Harem' term itself is outdated and stupid. Would you call Sailor Moon a Harem? Its got 5 girls surrounding one guy, but only 2 of them like him. So why is Love Hina considered a 'harem'?

    What these shows really should be called is 'Love Triangles' like Love Hina, Kimagure Orange Road, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien or Boku Ha Tomodachi Ga Sukunai. A true 'harem' would be something like Shuffle or Ranma 1/2.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:15 No.56068307
    >>56068248
    >Would you call Sailor Moon a Harem? Its got 5 girls surrounding one guy,
    No, because he is not a MC.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:16 No.56068331
    >>56068248

    Don't make your own definition of the genre Harem. That might be your preferences but it doesn't work that way.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:16 No.56068334
    >>56068078
    If you're going to collect a harem of girls, there needs to be a reason why they flock to you. Keitaro has 0 redeeming qualities. He's submissive, clumsy, weak, and doesn't even look attractive by anime standards. If the MC is meant to represent the average guy (or the viewer himself, most likely), they are not a good Harem protagonist.

    Compare him to Akuto Sai from Color Wars and you'll see what I mean.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:16 No.56068349
    for Naru people say "she's a good person it's just the anime that fucked over her character"

    however it was the manga that made me dislike her

    like that one chapter in vol.3 where both Keitaro and Naru fail to get into Tokyo U
    then afterwards Naru constantly insults Keitaro on him being a loser, an idiot, and a nerd
    so Keitaro calls her out on her hypocrisy (since they were in the same boat at that point)

    in the anime they play it off as a joke, so I was ok

    but the manga played it as Keitaro was a bad person for commenting upon it, and force him to apologize for it

    all while Naru is completely unrepentant
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:18 No.56068402
    >>56068042
    What? no, are you retarded?
    They had a kid just the other day.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:18 No.56068418
    >>56068334

    Character developments. Character interactions throughout the series. Plot advancement. Do you know them?

    Protip: You don't.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:19 No.56068429
    >>56068334
    All of the girls who liked him had a reason that was legitimate and established in the story.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:19 No.56068451
    >>56068349

    That was to show that Keitaro was a nice guy to a fault.

    Also at that early point in the manga Naru is still super-defensive and in ball-busting mode. It takes her practically the entire series to warm up to Keitaro.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:20 No.56068460
    >>56068334
    seems you didn't read >>56067567 correctly

    his redeeming feature was his determination

    and even though he didn't have any in the beginning he goes to level 100 at the end
    (see >>56067803)
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:20 No.56068466
    >>56068334
    Fuck you, Kei was pretty cute
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:20 No.56068484
    >>56068349

    I don't remember anything you just have said. Mind posting the pages?

    Mangareader will do.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:21 No.56068502
    >>56068307
    >>56068331

    I'm not seeing anything to despute this point:

    >What these shows really should be called is 'Love Triangles' like Love Hina, Kimagure Orange Road, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien or Boku Ha Tomodachi Ga Sukunai. A true 'harem' would be something like Shuffle or Ranma 1/2.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:22 No.56068529
    >get on /a/
    >Love Hina thread
    >211 posts and 38 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

    Is today a nostalgia day or something?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:22 No.56068545
    >>56068451
    yeah but the shit she gets away with during that time

    like in the beach chapters where the typical harem misunderstanding made Naru hostile towards Keitaro through the entire fucking arc

    it took his friends to explain that it was their fault and all they get is a slap on the wrist
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:22 No.56068553
    >>56068484
    It was after Naru's first attempt at Todai, they go to a bar and get drunk. Then they both start swinging shit at each other and keitaro gets bludgeoned.

    After that both make a trip to Kyoto separately but end up meeting and making up there.

    It's been 5 years and I still remember all this shit, fuck this thread, I'm out to dust off my volumes.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:24 No.56068594
    >>56068529
    OP asked "why people liked it" and "was it just nostalgia"

    for many people it is (especially those sick of harem cliches)

    for me it isn't
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:25 No.56068625
    >>56068502
    >LH
    >love triangle

    There's at least 3 who wants to have a serious relationship with him as far as I can remember.Naru, Motoko, Shinobu.

    Not to mention his sister, Kitsune also likes him.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:25 No.56068635
    >>56065719

    are you retarded...
    LH is the definition of a harem, all 5 of the fucking girls in the house fall in love with him, on top of that his half sister joins the mix, the lost Osananajimi comes to join the romp.

    Also I'm a motokofag, at the end she changed so much, and so much for him, but because of all of that bullshit promise crap he had to go with naru, which i was alright with but still depressed. Also I'm pretty sure LH pioneered the shitty, flash back promise to marry, when they were younger.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:25 No.56068641
    >Not picking delicious kendo girl

    Fuck you ken, I knew this would happen but im still mad.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:26 No.56068658
    >>56068460
    >his redeeming feature was his determination

    like you think people on 4chan are going to appreciate that.

    Everything on here is about being alpha or naturally gifted or whatever, and not about good old-fashioned hard work.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:26 No.56068670
    >>56068248
    Sailormoon is not a harem because the MC is Sailormoon. That's why the show is Mahou Shoujo.

    Harem = dude MC surrounded by a flock of girls with affection for him

    Besides, in LH, it's NOT just two girls that want Keitaro by the end. Almost everyone of them tried to bone him and even in the epilogue, they still wanted to bone him, a married man.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:26 No.56068678
    >>56068545
    she does have her good moments and the Kanako arc does give her her comeuppance

    so I don't hate her
    but I wouldn't put her in my top 5 Hina girls list any time soon
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:27 No.56068686
    >>56068641

    and tall dark and bishoujo as well too.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:27 No.56068688
    >>56068553
    Oh yeah, forgot to mention. during this arc Kaolla kidnaps Shinobu and both make a trip all around Japan with shinobu's funds (Kaolla tries to use her own money but it's monopoly money).

    The rest of the girls decide to follow suit and in the end they all meet in kyoto. Shinobi is selling matches for money and Motoko is doing wooden figures because kitsune spends all tehir money.

    I think I have a problem /a/
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:29 No.56068765
    >>56068625
    >>56068625

    Wha? At least in the Anime, Shinobu and Matoko have no relationship with him. Just like him because he was 'nice' to them. Naru and Mutsumi are the ones fighting for his affection. And fighting is a very loose term as Mutsumi is more 'ara ara' over everything.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:30 No.56068826
    >>56068765
    >anime
    There is your problem, the anime was terrible in every aspect.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:30 No.56068843
    >>56068765
    >At least in the Anime
    >Anime

    Haven't you been reading the thread at all?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:31 No.56068909
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    >>56068484
    Not that anon, but I've got time. hold on.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:32 No.56068940
    >>56068765

    I said "wants to have" I didn't say they had.

    Also
    >anime
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:33 No.56068995
    >>56068765
    >Shinobu was horny for Keitaro and was always lovestruck
    >Motoko wanted to steal Keitaro from Naru
    >Kaolla wanted to marry Keitaro
    >Mitsune would have taken Keitaro if not for his monogamous lifestyle, she almost raped him
    Keitaro's imouto wanted to freaking ride his cock.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:33 No.56069040
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    >Also I'm pretty sure LH pioneered the shitty, flash back promise to marry, when they were younger.

    Nope. That's a comedy staple and LH played it seriously. See also: Ranma & Ukyou.
    >> sacchaRIN !SWEETOIeZA 10/17/11(Mon)21:34 No.56069069
    >>56068909

    Oh Su.... you always knew so much more than you let on.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:36 No.56069115
    >>56068248
    >The difference is, while Love Hina is a 'Harem', there's only 2 girls who actively interact with the MC in persuing a relationship.
    Irrelevant. Harem is about the MC being surrounded by a bunch of girls with the manga/anime focusing on that harem aspect.

    >What these shows really should be called is 'Love Triangles' like Love Hina, Kimagure Orange Road, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien or Boku Ha Tomodachi Ga Sukunai. A true 'harem' would be something like Shuffle or Ranma 1/2.
    And now you keep going on with how a "true harem" should be like according to your own definition (harem = girls that love the MC), when in fact harem is just about the MC being surrounded by girls.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:36 No.56069128
    >>56068995

    motoko didn't want to steal keitaro... it's just keitaro was being the idiot, always helping her that she got attached, fell in love with him and changed herself for him, her story is a bitter sweetness, because as my waifu she's still pure, but from her happiness perspective I revile keitaro for making the wrong choice... fuck that stupid promise, I'm pretty sure Ken of now would say that too, those allusions don't have to play out, because their trite and meaningless AAAARRRRRGGGGGH, the motokofag rage is welling inside me!!!!!
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:36 No.56069131
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    >>56069040

    >>Kaolla wanted to marry everyone

    Fixed your comment for you. Can't imagine the rage I felt when that fucker actually BLEW the harem ending.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:38 No.56069215
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    >>56069131

    >Irrelevant. Harem is about the MC being surrounded by a bunch of girls with the manga/anime focusing on that harem aspect.

    His count is off (They ALL wanted Keitarou--it was just to varying degrees of want), but you're definition's also way too damned general and not informative at all.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:40 No.56069248
    >>56069128
    When Motoko got desperate, she literally tried to steal Keitaro from Naru. But Keitaro defeated her in live combat.

    Then again, years later, she's writing smut novels about her and Keitaro.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:41 No.56069322
    >>56068248
    >Would you call Sailor Moon a Harem? Its got 5 girls surrounding one guy, but only 2 of them like him. So why is Love Hina considered a 'harem'?

    you just went full retard.

    Seriously I think the confusion from the term comes from the term itself, and the fact that it DOES predate LH, even though LH arguably epitomizes it.

    I can see why people would call Ranma a harem since the women in that series seem to have this unrelenting desire for the protagonist, but I think that's kind of different from what happens in LH.

    In LH, first of all, there are no other real significant male protagonists. There is Sera, who is a not insignificant character, but given how Keitaro turns out, Sera might as well be time-traveler Keitaro from the future. And there are his friends, but they are practically non-entities (do they even show up in the later volumes? It's been so long, I forget), and basically there to talk about how awesome it is he lives in this huge hotel with a bunch of girls.

    Due to this absence of other male characters, there's a lot more plot tension as to who is the optimal match for the main character, and it's done without sullying the "maidenhood" of the other female characters. I think this makes it much more deserving of the "harem" label, as the protagonist could pick ANY of the characters without fear of any other kind of significant romantic competition. I mean, obviously it's clear who WILL end up with Keitaro, given how much plot time is dedicated to coming up with situations that involve that character and Keitaro, but the lack of other male characters at least makes it a bit less than a foregone conclusion.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:42 No.56069355
    >>56069215
    Will this help:
    >Because romance is rarely the main focus of an entire series, harem structure is ambiguous. The most distinguishable trait is arguably the group of girls who accompany, and in some instances cohabitate with the boy, and while intimacy is just about customary, it is never necessary; when it is present, there must be a minimum of three girls who express it, otherwise two is a love triangle. Additionally, it is not essential for there to be one exclusive boy; many can exist as long as they are given less attention or the story calls for an unusually obscure sex ratio
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:43 No.56069376
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    >>56069215
    >And now you keep going on with how a "true harem" should be like according to your own definition (harem = girls that love the MC), when in fact harem is just about the MC being surrounded by girls.

    No. Traditional harem is girls that are actively lusting after one cock and AGREE to do so freely and without backstabbing/fighting/etc. We call it harem in anime/manga because it's close to what occurs--each girl is thrown in for one MC's romantic/sexual benefit. But in truth it's become a distorted slang term to mean "all girls vying for one man's cock and may the best girl win", far as anime/manga is concerned.

    But that anon's wrong, too. Shuffle isn't true harem because the MC (Rin) BLEW the chance to have a harem end. The best he could manage was nailing a girl and her sister simultaneously.

    Koihime Musou (the eroge not the anime) is a far more traditional form of what "Harem" really is.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)21:44 No.56069405
    >>56069040

    eh not what i was referring too, I mean like the childhood promise is the reason they love eachother, there is this entire arc where mutsumi and naru are at odds they cry about who is really to be with keitaro, which is later parodied in Kujiki unbalance. I mean it may have been done, but manga plays that stupid promise everytime keitaro develops feelings for any of the girls, it's one of the constants that is trite
    >> sacchaRIN !SWEETOIeZA 10/17/11(Mon)21:44 No.56069422
    Anyone calling LH not a harem is delusional.

    That doesn't stop it from being enjoyable back in the day, but it is what it is.

    It did (unfortunately) pave the way for a lot of bad shit though.



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