Revving up the torrents

american companies dont care about us, thats why fansubbing will stay

>>55913380
Britfag here watching the stream. Learn to internet

>stream

This content is only available in
>Canada
>United States

Okay.

>>55913441
why would i jump through hoops to watch shitty streams ?
enjoy your cancer

>>55913441
why would I want to mess with proxies and shit when I can just torrent my usual shit

>>55913429
The real reason is that companies in other countries license anime themselves, and showing the NA version to just anyone would be violating something or other.

>Mirai Nikki
>Oct 20
But I already watched it.

>>55913485
>>55913509
Then why are you complaining in the first place?

>B-baka streams... it's not like I LIKE you or anything...

>can stream this shit
>i won't be streaming it anyway

HERP DERP

>>55913575
a lot of other companies buy licenses off american companies, because its fucking english

but a lot of them arent bothering to buy a lot of titles anymore, so there is a huge void of stuff that has been licensed by an english company (america) and what is available in other english speaking regions (fucking everywhere)

these people keep the demand of fansubbing going, which in turn hurts the american companies

I fucking love simulcasts. In the end we get subs at the time time so we just need to wait a couple of hours until someone takes the subs and slaps it on a decent raw.

they're not even using RTMPE, this shit is so easy to dump

>>55913699
This, who in their right mind would stream.
>streaming on nico surely during economy mode for the majority.
Enjoy paying for better QUALITY stream

>2011
>streaming when you can download delicious 480p

>>55914350
>2011
>not watching 720p

If these was 7 years ago, I would be happy about this. However, I've become far too spoiled on downloading decent quality anime that streams can't currently match. (Also, my shitty ISP has a bandwidth cap, so having to download that data every time I want to re-watch an episode is a no no)

>>55914435
>watching upscales

Get a free VPN, faggots

Fuck it i hate streaming. I will NEVER stop downloading HD torrents. Tho its a little bit irritating buying so many hard drives as i never delete my animu.

>>55914580
>implying they're upscales

>use VPN
>mfw I can watch anything without region restriction

>>55914588
why when i already watched the episode yesterday?

>>55914629

Unless they're movies, they're upscales. TV anime is typically produced at 540p.

>>55914722
For future simulcasts

Guilty Crown #01 Genesis - Niconico.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 183 MiB
Duration : 23mn 8s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 1 109 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2011-10-13 17:03:13
Tagged date : UTC 2011-10-13 17:03:13
Copyright : SMILEVIDEO_MP4

Well, part of me is happy that they are at least trying something like this. But once again, they drug their feet too long, and while I'm sure people will use this new service, it won't stop them from downloading the HD torrents.

More importantly, I wish they would finally accept the concept of offering manga officially online.

>>55914588
Nobody here wants you shitty stream.
Gtfo.

>>55914746
why when subs will probably be out by the time i either realize the stream is up or return to my computer?

>>55914189
Well, it's nicovideo. Works for their Japanese site as well.
What do you expect?

>>55914800
you forgot crf 24

>>55914690
>yfw the video quality is shit

>>55914854
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 8 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 23mn 8s
Bit rate : 977 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 4 329 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.044
Stream size : 162 MiB (88%)
Writing library : x264 core 118 r2085 8a62835
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=8 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=6 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=24.0 / qcomp=0.70 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=3500 / vbv_bufsize=3489 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2011-10-14 15:30:43
Tagged date : UTC 2011-10-13 17:03:15

>>55914878
>Bit depth : 8 bits
Guys, we have gone over this a thousand times; 8-bit video doesn't exist anymore. If you see an "8-bit video", delete it, since it's actually a virus to your machine.

>>55914864
You sound jelly

>>55914997

Or, If you see a Daiz post, ignore it, since it's actually cancer.

>>55914690
>>55914588
the fuck is a VPN

>>55915120
kill yourself

>>55915038
take a look at >>55914878
if you dont know what it means, kill yourself

So are we supposed to take these motherfuckers seriously? I think not.

>>55915155
I know what it means. But somehow you seem frustrated just because I stream animu.

Keep angry, brah. Your rage is delicious.

>>55915341
>animes

>>55915355

AH!!! This is sooo kewlll I stre/a/m /a/nimus too!! XDD ^^
I heard we can comment while watching animu now, so how about we have a kawaii chat next time? :D ^_________^

>>55915608
>don't know what to comeback
>goes full retarded

>>55915341
>Animes

Are they by chance... JAPANESE Animes?

>>55915721
not him, but the previous person

no rage is being had, you are just acting like a smug individual and everyone likes to take goes at smug faggots

>>55915721
Uguuuu~!!!!!! T______T
Don't be mean!!!!!!! I just showed up here! >_>
Let's watch some kewl streams together instead!!!!! :D ^^____________^

>>55914588
>get a free VPN to watch some shitty streams

How about just using torrents/XDCC/DDL to get far better quality releases instead?

>>55916510
But my dear Daiz, that is not the way of the c/a/sual.

>>55916510
daiz, any plans for some of those shows that funi just announced?

>>55916510
>torrents/XDCC/DDL
>stre/a/ming & c/a/sual

Whoa hang on there tiger. Shit's too intense for us

>>55916510
fuck the stream argument, the interessting thing are the official subs. stream included subs -> dvd/br subs

Time to download BDs of everything FUNi has ever done and start posting Nico rips on TT.

>>55916749
>stream included subs -> dvd/br subs

Hold your seahorses there and think about it for a moment. I don't think I've seen a single show that would have been streamed on CR or NicoNico that would have had the official English subtitles on the R2 BDs. I think the only one so far is Tiger & Bunny, which had a simulcast by Viz/Hulu.

>>55916668
Not much point when basically all of them seem to be latecasts instead of actual simulcasts.

Also what in the name of fuck, for some reason /a/ is currently breaking my userstyle scripts.

Never watched it so I don't give a smurf.

inb4 moot gets a million angry emails

>>55916929
the board now applys the cookie saved style once a page finishes loading, if you stop it or refresh or leave a page before it finishes loading the cookie goes to yotsuba

>>55916929
>Also what in the name of fuck, for some reason /a/ is currently breaking my userstyle scripts.

Actually nevermind, seems like disabling the scripts and re-enabling them fixed it. Quite an annoying incident, though.

>>55916995
Yeah, that happened a while ago already, and I happen to find it pretty fucking annoying since my style is built around Burichan.

One of these days I should just port this to 4chan X and be done with it.

would this be considere anime?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZL9qxT01Fo&feature=channel_video_title

Streaming:
Legal
Support Anime
Professional Translations
Fast

Download:
Illegal
Viruses
Hi10P shit
Trollsubs
Slow translations
Karaoke
Take up space on HDD

>>55917075
as is mine

one day ill integrate the whole burichan style into my userstyle and make sure it overrides everything in yotsuba so it doesnt fuck up, but i cant be bothered

I have to admit though that it makes sense to advertise a legal anime site on /a/. If I ran a legitimate anime site I'd do the same thing too. But then again, if I ran a legal anime site I'd make sure it'd allow actual high-quality downloads and not some streamshit so the advertising would actually have some point to it.

fuc..........k stre........am......ing

>>55917221
But would you advertise not only the site, but also /a/ on all boards?

>>55917116
downloading anime is illegal in my country, but the copyright-anime-whatever doesn´t even persue uploaders. so legal/illegal is no point of choice for me.
if theres a chance for professional subs in hd-quality video i´ll go with that. hdd space is a ridiculous argument though.

The best part about streaming is you can watch the streams from VLC! \( ^_^ )/

>>55917221
It seems really stupid if you ask me, because anyone who regularly visits /a/ knows we all hate streaming, and are happy to pirate in order to get our shit in the best quality possible.

>>55917116

>Professional Translations

Yep, those "?????" are very accurate

Besides, I can at least rewatch the stuff I downloaded a couple of years down the line, if I wanted without having to worry about it getting removed.

>>55917351
a lot of f/a/ggots stream, all those who dont are us hardcore faggots

>>55917116
>Streaming:
>Legal
We don't give a shit.
>Support Anime
Sure, but nobody wants to support Funanimation or other dub shit.
Supporting it by buying figurines etc is a better idea.
>Professional Translations
lolno
They are just as shit as fansubs and in most times even worse.
>Fast
not really

>>55917391
>a lot of f/a/ggots stream
no, those are just faggots

Okay... what?

Haha, I knew Daiz had to be a faggot in here.

>>55917116
I removed all bullshit points.

Streaming:
Legal
Support Anime

Download:
Illegal
Doesn't support the horrendous copyright system and doesn't reward greedy, incompetent corporate pigs

>4chan getting funding from niconico instead of J-List
the fuck is this

>>55917116
>Streaming:
>Legal
Depends on where you live
>Support Anime
Not really, anime studios make very little money out of it
>Professional Translations
A lot of "professional" translations are actually quite bad
>Fast
Diarrhea is fast too, does that make it good?

>Download:
>Illegal
Maybe, but it doesn't really harm the studios any more than streaming
>Viruses
Bullshit
>Hi10P shit
Deal with it, it's not difficult to watch Hi10P
>Trollsubs
Generally you have the choice. And anyway, 100% literal accuracy doesn't always make for good, flowing subs
>Slow translations
Again, bullshit.
>Karaoke
Don't like them? Just turn off the subs.
>Take up space on HDD
You seriously need to upgrade your 200MB hard disks to something a little more modern. Hard disks are really cheap now. And guess what - one it's on your hard disk you can watch it any time you like anywhere for ever, whether you have an Internet connection or not.

>>55917221
But wouldn't a download website be even easier to pirate than a stream already is?

Fuck streaming.

>>55917502
Nico is a shitty Japanese youtube clone that is financed by premium memberships instead of primarily ads
I hope they fail to expand.

>>55917559
Not really.

And a lot more people would be interested in using it.

Explain to me, how is downloading stuff that air on japanese TV illegal? Nips who record TV are breaking the law too?

The show lineup is crap anyway.

>Blood-C
>Dark Rabbit
>Twin Angel
>R-15
>C3

Nope.

Fall 2011
Hi10P breaking thousands of perfectly working installs and killing set top boxes. Pirating becomes less useful.
4chan endorses streaming that just works.
Golden age of anime begins.

>>55917578
i dont believe that polish fansubbers exist.

>>55917680
They have legit access to the broadcast, and are therefore allowed to timeshift and formatshift. They are not legally allowed to download shows that don't air in their region or download BD rips. Doesn't stop them, of course.

>>55917720
Would a more 4chan oriented market bring the death of moeshit and the rise of more good animes like Cowboy Bebop?

>>55917680
>how is downloading stuff that air on Japanese TV illegal
Corporations bribe politicians to make unnatural and unjust laws, that declare normal activities illegal.
The worst thing is that people don't care and even buy inferior products to "support" the producers.
See a picture for the result of such behaviour.

>>55917747
And when did you fall under the impression that I can not into english subs just because I'm Polish?

>>55917720
where's that streamfagsareyoueventrying.jpeg when you need it

You know, I remember back when streaming first started and it was garbage quality. It still is. But honestly, if they offer GOOD looking 720p streams with good translations simulcast, why do we hate that?

I mean, we hated on VLC because it was a shit player, and we hated on streams because the quality made your eyes bleed, or had ridiculous 4 week delays.

I guess my question is, at what point does it become ok to stream?

>>55917824
Considering how we reacted to fate/zero, no. We'd probably end up with more loli fanservice instead.

>>55917825
Communism already failed. Some of us actually want shit to work and think people should get paid for their work. Go back to trying to get multiple sound streams to work on your shitty debian install.

>>55917989
Fate/Zero is a loli fanservice anime?

>>55917942
>at what point does it become ok to stream?
For me, never.
There is absolutely no logical reason for me not to save a backup of the file that I just viewed to my HDD.

>>55917857
kurwa, you missed the point of my statement, no nje?

Who the fuck cares? I'll just do what I always do and download them off Toktotosho

>>55917116
But I like trollsubs

>>55917942
Never, I would like the file on my hard drive to view whenever I please. Also I have a internet cap, so I don't want to be bothered whenever I want to rewatch a episode.

>internet cap

>>55918002
Enjoy being a mindless consuming drone and getting fucked in the ass all day every day.

>>55914189
>183MB
>.mp4
Sure is shit quality up in here.

>>55917116

And what about the anime titles the streaming companies won't pick up?

>>55918042
That's a fair point. From my perspective, though, I just watch an episode and move on. Even though I have my terabyte HD packed with anime right now, I don't hesitate to delete hundreds episodes at a time, arbitrarily, when I need more space.

I generally don't watch a series twice, so the wanting a hard copy argument doesn't matter to me, since I don't archive to begin with.

>animes

haha told you stupid pretentious weeaboos. It's animes. This is the English site.

>>55917942
Never if you're a penniless creator hating pirate.

>>55917494
a lot of streaming doesnt "support anime"

what do companies get out of you watching on niconico? you dont have to pay for an account, are there any ads? likely they just paid a tv station for the rights to stream it so the money doesnt go to the studio

>>55918037
Did you miss the threads about it? Serious show full of adult male characters with an actual plot, and our reaction was a gigantic shitstorm of hate, trolling, and bitching about how there was too much talking. Meanwhile, the people whacking it to loli rin and loli sakura getting wormed were really enjoying themselves.

Here is what they need to do. Have direct downloads of subtitled anime and just leave the commercials in. Or hell, they could just put English commercials in, since most of us won't buy Jap stuff.

>>55918225
Everyone and their mom and even wikipedia say the plural is "anime".
I see terrible mistakes in ads every day.
Marketing people and designers are either retarded or don't give a shit about spelling and grammar.

>>55918269
Aren't most anime TV broadcasts advertisement that actually cost the creators money in Japan?

>>55918269
Copyright Law doesn't work that way. Don't get me wrong, Copyright is a broken worthless system that perpetuates a lot of the bullshit that makes good streams hard to do to begin with, but this statement is just false.

>>55918269
Then studios undervalued their IP when they sold it to the tv station. Licensing is money for the relevant rightsholder which provides additional revenue and makes producing content more valuable.

I'´m..I'm a little confused, I haven't streamed anime for the poast 5 years, what changes will this brign for us who download anything and dont give a crap about livestream?

>>55918361
it's tough, no show wants their shit publicly available as a file you can run simply from your computer, even with ads.

the only way i can see this happening is if they made their own video player and made it so the file you download could only be played using said player and force you to watch commercials. but really no company will ever go that far.

>>55918476
Nothing.

>>55918476
with a little luck, less trollsubs. thats it.

>>55918476
>>55918537
Nico is available in English now.
That's new, isn't it?

>>55918383
they have to pay for the timeslot, yeah

they make most of their money off merchandising deals

>>55918426
i didnt once mention copyright in that post and it isnt even linked to copyright
im not saying that downloading anime isnt piracy, all im saying is that the studios dont get a return or get shit all return from people watching legal streams, using the argument that you are helping anime by watching legal streams is invalid
actually buying merchandise is a legitimate way of supporting the industry

>>55913380
DAMNIT FUNIMATION!!! FUCK YOU! WILL YOU EVER STOP FUCKING UP MY ANIME!!!!

>>55918511
You mean like what is already happening in the set top box, console and smart TV space? The general purpose computer is dying and provides capability to pirate. Small, efficient, secure systems are better than do everything freewares.

>>55918572
Only if you care about streaming.

>>55918683
>The general purpose computer is dying
What?

>2011
>downloading reencoded transport STREAMS
ISHYGDDT

>>55918476
for our purposes it's just another crunchyroll for groups to rip the subtitles from

The cloud computing thing will probably deal a blow to piracy in the future.

Germanfag here, nothing changed. Nothing changed at all.

>>55918842
so long as you can see it it can be ripped

>>55918683
>The general purpose computer is dying
>implying shit like Crunchyroll will ever be up-to-par in terms of video quality.

>>55918842
Just like how onlive killed console gaming, huh?

>>55918758
Tablets, smart phones, smart TVs etc providing ubiquitous computing instead of chaining you to a single machine. Cloud services removing the need for local servers and local storage. Stop living in the 80's. We're going to Big Blue 2.0.

>>55918898
What good is seeing if you haven't got any eyes?

>>55918599
You didn't mention it directly, no, but just because a TV network has rights to broadcast doesn't mean they have the ability to sell that right to Niconico. Only the original copyright holder has that right. In that sense, your statement is false. You can make the argument that the revenue from the stream is minimal, but not that they get nothing.

fuck streaming, they should just give you the file then you can watch it on your computer..

Lol no.

All I need to know is that I now have 32 bit floating point processing (streaming uses 8), LittleCMS color correction in realtime (streaming doesn't even have this option), full 10-bit output in D3D fullscreen (streaming again supports only 8), white point adaptation and black point compensation (not an option), and I don't even lose DXVA support now.

Oh, and I can write and use my own HLSL pixel shaders in realtime.

>>55918932
No private person needs cloud bullshit for anything.
It's snake oil.

>>55918932
>Tablets, smart phones, smart TVs etc providing ubiquitous computing instead of chaining you to a single machine.
>ubiquitous computing
>compared to a fucking PC
are you fucking serious. do you know what you're saying?

Non weeaboo here, just stopping by. I thought you folks hated FUNimation. I expected people to get their butts hurt.

>>55919088
... and yet, I use cloud functionality between my PC at home, my PC at work, the PCs at school, and my phone. Every day.

I guess I need to rethink my perspective on snake oil.

>everyone thinks streaming and cloud computing are the future
>US is still like #13 in internet speeds
>companies want to add monthly data caps

>>55918932
>Cloud services removing the need for local servers and local storage.
Which is retarded, a NAS is damn cheap and with IPv6 and decent broadband i can basically be my own cloud storage.

No need to feed the data gobblers.

>>55919208
>cloud functionality
That means exactly nothing.

Too bad the subs are shit and it's not even HD.

>>55918383
>mistake
>grammar

Are you seriously saying this is how plurals work in English? Holy shit.

>>55919131
Yeah. Cheap useful purpose driven devices instead of bloated obsolete machines that sit idle most of the time. It's not a computer in every house. No one wants that. It's a computer chip in every useful device. Smart grid appliances. Networked cars. Mobile Internet everywhere. TVs that can stream any show on demand. Mobile devices streaming you the same content on the go. General purpose tinker machines are obsolete.

>>55919280
Exactly.
Everyone can have more storage than 95% of the population can ever use for not much money.
Many many people have to live with slow, unreliable and sometimes even capped internet and can't do fuckall to change that.
Enjoy accessing your 2TB cloud storage over your measly 8Mbit line.
Onlive didn't work and this shit is just as retarded.

>>55919280
>buy new machine
>spend hours configuring NAS
>more hours resolving IPv6 (assuming you can get a static IP in the first place)
Versus
>cheap subscription or free
>easy to use
>no single point of failure

>>55919410
>are
The main problem is that nothing you described will be available to relevant portions of the population for AT LEAST another decade.

>>55919391
My English sucks.
I thought it's fairly obvious that it's not my native language.

>>55919456
>onlive doesn't work
I must have imagined running a resource hogging heavy duty CAD application on a low end laptop over onlive then. Snake oil he says. FUD says I.

>>55919410
what you're missing is that all those cheap devices are marketed towards the it just werks crowd. Netflix, TVs with internet, tablets. they're all retarded-tier. and will never be up to par to the quality of computer quality. shit like your TV processor won't ever know the quality of stuff like encoding, color correction, 10bit, gpu acceleration, etc.

Your argument is just like saying PC gaming is obsolete because of consoles.