>late to the party
>he's waring a party hat

Does anyone have the "full size" of this?

>>55400904
She's socially retarded doesn't understand personal relationships at all and probably gets all info from her boss who reads Japanese manga

>>55401954
Laura is the CO in their group

>>55401404
I liked the broadcast version a lot better, mainly because of Cecilia's reaction

>>55402051
Thanks, my dear tripf/a/g

This is why Germany was the best.

>>55402129
best scene

Charlotte really stole the spotlight for the BDs
and I'm ok with that

>>55402327

>stole
>not deserved

You know this to be true.

>>55402327
If she was dressing as a guy, why did she wear girls underwear?
What if someone saw it

>>55402451
slut loving samefag

>Mizuki vs. Cecilia in a cooking battle
Oh boy

Why is she so awesome? I..I just can"t take it.

>>55402779
Because shes perfect
I could go on but I have things to do

>implying Houki won't win

>>55402932
>implying it won't be harem or open end

>>55402932
Again, I won't mind this just as long as Yumizuru stops making it so damn obvious. Give the other girls a chance why don't you.

>>55403002
>IMPLYING YOU FAGGOTS ARENT JUST FIGMENTS OF MY IMAGINATION

Cecilia won her saimoe, but Charlotte goes against Sayaka in her section, what chance does Char have of beating her?

Also Laura and Rin are out, for those who didn't know

>>55407420
If Piak-tan's ass won't start this thread, I don't know what will

>>55400904

>>55402740

SAKAMOTOOOOOOOOOOOo

Ficken England.
Ficken China.
Ficken Japan.
Ficken Frankreich ... behutsam und mit Liebe.
Ehre sei dem Vaterland!
Ruhm und Sieg für Deutschland!

Vous êtes fou!

La France est évidemment la meilleure. Pouvez-vous ne voyez pas?

>>55409944

Deutschland hat eine entzückende Häschen Anzug. Ich glaube nicht an ein Wort sagen hören.

>>55409972

La France a un costume de lapin aussi. Et si je puis dire, que cela ressemble beaucoup mieux sur elle alors qu'elle ne le cochon allemand de la vôtre.

>>55410017

Mach mich nicht eindringen Ihr Land wieder.

>>55410038

Pas avant France envahit votre Allemagne!

>>55410017

>alors qu'elle ne le cochon allemand de la vôtre.

>>55409938
>Houki cut off
It can't be helped.

>>55410071

Nun, da geht zu weit! Sie ist zu rein.

>>55409944
>Pouvez-vous ne voyez pas?
>Vous ne le voyez pas?
FTFY

>>55410098

Victorieux France est victorieuse!

>>55410017
>La France a un costume de lapin aussi. Et j'aimerais dire que cela lui va beaucoup mieux que votre cochon allemand.

>>55410071
>Pas avant que la france envahit votre allemagne.

>>55409938

>Tabasco sauce

Why would you need two bottles...

Derp. It took me a while to realize that you guys were using google translate. The autism in me is strong.

>I love google translate.

>>55410348

I was actually copying a thread off of easymodo, but yeah.

http://archive.easymodo.net/a/thread/55249241#p55251308

>>55402256

私も、誰かの愛を持ってもいいですか？

>>55400904
Ah, Laura~

>>55402462
see >>55400904

Pic related.

>>55410607

beide machen mich steif

>>55410780

>>55411009
samefagging spick

>>55411009
You don't deserve her, samefag, you don't even deserve to look at her

>>55411064
>>55411670
Maybe Halios should stop posting if these are the replies he gets every time, kind of kills the thread
Just a thought

>>55410780
I don't like you

That naked armbar submission on the bed has to go down as one of my favorite fanservice scenes ever

>>55412521

>>55400904
This and the beginning of the next episode are why Laura is my second best. I would have no issues with her competing with Char for OTP if they kept her bold personality she debuted with, but then they fucking ruined her and turned her into a generic SO KAWAII SHE'S EMBARRASSED moeblob shit character, probably because they realized they probably couldn't keep the harem-style character development stasis if one of them was actually actively trying to get someone else.

Seriously, fuck Infinite Stratos. Such a shitty author.

>>55412784
I second this,
fuhrer Laura was best and that time was so short
Just like Charles' time, author needs to learn to flush out stuff that makes fan happy, but he was to busy trying to establish the harem.

and then we get shitty characters like Houki as main heroine for the series while more interesting characters get left to the side.
And its not even subtle

>>55413097
Well seeing how he scrapped part of his writing not too long ago for volume 8, it's possible that he's starting to improve and realize that he needs to reach a balance in character development and not just throw in a golem battle whenever it works for him the most.

>>55413676
Hope so.
Wish we knew what the rewrite was about, or what the original was

>>55413676
I'm not getting my hopes up. Frankly, he's already backed himself into a corner. Intentionally or not, he basically wrote Char as THE love interest. The alternative would be if Germany suddenly grew (or rather never lost) her balls and swept Ichika away if Char's too passive. Britain's, China's, and Japan's relationships with Ichika have all been too stale for too long, they're basically out of the running unless he hamfists a lot of character development in all at once.

The fact of the matter is that, realistically, Char and Ichika would have pretty much become official after that bath scene. At that point Ichika had already thrown himself into the protective role of Char's life, they had already developed a bond based on experiencing similar situations and just plain good chemistry. Their intimacy had developed to the point where Ichika would feed Char in private, shared a secret, changed together, and even bathed together. Finally, there's the nipples on back and hand holding in the bath, which probably would have marked their relationship taking the next step.

And then Ichika wakes up the next morning with no memory of Charlotte's existence. This is basically the point at which the Infinite Stratos story 'broke', and when I knew it was time to fucking bail. Nobody else had remotely near the level of development with Ichika as Charlotte had, which is why the author had to pretend it never even happened from that point on.

By volume 8, it's up in the air no matter what the author does, because Ichika's literally ignored every single character for so long that anything the author does will just be something to trigger 'Ichika suddenly realizes he loves so-and-so!" which of course has no fucking relation to prior character development whatsoever. He'd be better off just dropping or ending IS, and doing a new project altogether. Preferably after spending a year learning some basic fucking story continuity.

>>55412784
> probably because they realized they probably couldn't keep the harem-style character development stasis if one of them was actually actively trying to get someone else.

This could be fixed if Ichika had a defining personality or some sort of interest in another character or even in her, as long as it wasn't heavily romantic.

But I think it says a lot when the writer of the harem series can't write the harem portion correctly.

>>55414699
Ichika does NOT have a logical thought process. He has no thought process whatsoever. This is probably why they removed his monologue, probably because it would only make more obvious how mindless and self-contradictory he is. This is another thing that frustrated me about the story. In the beginning he actually seemed like he might have been an okay character.

>>55414687
>he basically wrote Char as THE love interest.
Except he didn't, it might have come across like that in the anime until the last two episodes, but in the novels the love interest is Houki, and its so obvious its painful.
In fact in 5-7, Tatenashi, her sister and Houki basically get the spotlight, while the rest rot in the corner

>>55414687
But you're fucking wrong. Houki has had tons of development with him. Arguably shitty development, but it's clear the author has invested some into Houki end. IMO, I don't think it's quite to the point where he can't steer to another route, though. The only girl with astronomically low chances would probably be Rin.

>>55414687
This. I would have given all of my money if IS was about Char and Ichika's relationship; it was much more interesting than the ones he had with the other girls. For the love of...I mad.

>>55414984
It says something when Ran of all people gets more time with Ichika then Rin has in 7 volumes.

Ah, such is the life of a maiden in love...

>55413575
>IS general comes up

Should we migrate or stay here? It seems pretty deserted in the other thread.

>>55415040

>>55413575

>>55415120
>>55415040
Lets stay here

>>55415120
why did someone make that one if this one was up already.

>>55414687
>only watched the anime
>pretends he's read all the volumes from 1-7

Yeah no. Charlotte hasn't gotten that much focus past volume 3, believe it or not.

>>55415215
She has little moments like going on a date with Ichika, and talking to him on his birthday, but most of it is overshadowed by Houki and Tatenashi and in Vol 7, Kanzashi
But every girl gets her little moments, but its like comparing ant hills to a mountain

>>55414941
Well, the problem is when he should have been defining Houki as the DEFINATE love interest, he does all of that shit with Charlotte while Houki does little to nothing to the side.

The thing is, that to make her special, more needs to be done than just taking an interest in him, because every bitch in the fucking series wants to take an interest in him. That's one way this series went wrong, surrounding this man with girls that want him. She's going to have to do more to convoy the point that these two really dig one another, not just what everyone else is doing. With fewer girls around, that effect is diminished.

But even when she's the only girl around, and Ichika starts off wanting to talk/reconnect with her, she hardly says anything. When they share the same room, the issue isn't her being in a room with a guy she has some feelings for, it's BECAUSE HE'S A MAN/PERVERT.
And even when she has to fight Ichika with Laura on her side, she apparently doesn't have a problem. They don't even make it a big issue out of it, when they could have to imply her intense feelings for him.

And then she just does a bunch of nothing until the plot kicks in, she's made to be really special and the plot tells us that her and him really like each other. We don't experience this onscreen so it's a huge fucking problem.

Shit, even on ZnT, nearly ever intimate moment is between the main character and the main female character. If anything their relationship moved too quickly for a harem.

You don't get that with Houki and Ichikia, you get that with Ichika and Charlotte. So that's why it's a big problem that Ichika suddenly considers it a one-night-stand and out of the blue here comes Houki.

All that shit with Charlotte is what he should have wrote in with Houki. You can't do all that shit and then go to a barely defined relationship

>>55415215
Erm...I think that's what he's saying and not just for Charlotte...

>>55415283
You really only watched the anime, didn't you?
Heres the novel
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Infinite_Stratos
Come back when you're done

>>55414941
That's because of the writer's style. He basically casts the spotlight on one character at a time and shoves everyone else into the corner until it's 'their turn'.

The problem is the subject matter of each turn. (The whole system of writing being broken aside.) As I mentioned, Ichika shares a secret with Charlotte, he empathizes with her past and feels personally motivated to protect her, they work well together, and grow in intimacy very quickly. (Not to mention the obvious parts like the fact Charlotte fancies Ichika and Ichika finds her attractive.) This is a *textbook* case of a romantic development. Unless this, and especially the bath scene aren't canon, then they were basically meant to end up together. The fact of the matter is that there is no way they would have become THAT personal THAT quickly unless they were falling into a romantic relationship.

Frankly, any extra spotlight Houki might have gotten is almost irrelevant unless she can outdo Char's relationship, because what's between Ichika and Char is definitely not platonic.

>>55415283
Yeah, too bad they're the mutually awkward-shy-dense official couple that barely move forward even though the plot is straining its back trying to get them to do so.

>>55415457
I'm not going to read that garbage

>>55415491
You obviously do not comprehend the extent of Ichika's density.

Where did Ichika ever show romantic affection for her?

>>55415515
Well then, don't criticize it.

>>55415457
>>55415577
If there's a lot to the novel it should be easy to present relevant information shouldn't it? Well? Armed with both the novel and the anime, where is Houki's development with Ichika?

>>55415577
I think I will criticize it.
I don't have to read it to know it's the same shit as it was in the novels, and the typical "he's more of a badass in the novels, the anime made him dumber!" defense is being mounted.

How about you tell me what the novels does right and actually bothers setting up what's apparently the main character and main female character rather than the plot telling us that's the case?

Remember, there's a big difference between being told a relationship is there, and being able to follow a relationship because it's being expressed

>>55415551
I'm not downplaying Ichika's density, a great portion of what I've been talking about is how poorly written his character is in the first place. In any case, it's hard to say who he has romantic affection for when we get no monologue of his thoughts and he doesn't declare how he feels about anybody. The closest we can do is infer by his behavior, which I've already detailed in previous posts.

>>55415782
I'm not mounting the defense at all I think the novels are terribly written as well, I'm just saying you shouldn't nor can make overarching criticisms of the series until you've... read the series. As of now, your complaints only touch on the anime, don't even try to criticize the novels.

>I don't have to read it to know it's the same shit as it was in the novels
Yeah you don't know.

Op Related.

On a lighter note...

>>55416114
Let's get past this "read it, haven't read it" shitfest and carry on with the point. I'm not that anon, but I've been reading these novels as quickly as they're being translated. The points they raise are essentially valid.

Houki's relationship development consists of a few childhood flashbacks, the plot related events forcing her into main heroine role, the scene on the beach at end of anime or volume 3. and a cliche harem confession drowned out by fireworks. To which Ichika responds in no manner other than "hand on breast, act as men act". HE doesn't provide any f the flashbacks linking the characters together, it looks like a one-sided romance from Houki. For the rest of the girls, just insert their names where needed.

Outside of the of the attempted romance areas, the only source of plot development is a Tabane scheme of the month.

Do me one better than defending it. Tell me, anyone, how Yumizuru can possibly, from vol 8 onward, restructure this into something slightly coherent, if that's even possible at this point.

>>55416396
>Let's get past this "read it, haven't read it" shitfest and carry on with the point.
Except thats the entire point, if you only watch the anime and skip the novel, you're missing out a ton of character development, like Cecilia's.
and a ton of other information, you can't base it all off the anime because 8bit did an awful job.
Heres the manga
http://www.simple-scans.com/slide/reader/series/infinite_stratos_is/
it follows the novel more closely then the anime

>>55400904
At first I got really mad seeing that image but then I got like really sad.
Forever alone.

>>55416396
I personally think that he should reduce harem antics to an even greater extent that he already has. Right now, as many people have pointed out, the state of Ichika's romantic affairs is a clusterfuck, and the fastest way to fix that would just be to bury it under plot development until both readers and characters forget about it, and start anew after a few volumes of INTRIGUE and PLOT.

Perhaps Yumizuru could kick off this process by some sort of major event that makes everyone serious the fuck up.

>>55416396
Like I said before, we can stop with the character development through golem battles.

Vol 1: Golem
Vol 3: Golem (essentially)
Vol 5: Golems
Vol 7: Golems

I know Yumizuru needs something non-human to show off how the girls and Ichika have improved in using their ISs, but it's always fucking golems.

Frankly Cecilia's the lucky one in this regard since at least she has a little thing going on with Madoka a.k.a Silent Zephyr.

I know, harem first, mech second but I think what I'm saying makes sense from a character development standpoint.

>>55416114
Once again, you're welcome to explain how he's wrong instead of saying "You're wrong because I say so"

The big issues with IS are that
>Horrible pacing and writing, characters will simply be put 'on hold' for indefinite periods for no apparent reason, so the author can show off X character

It's basically impossible to have any 'proper' character development when the author just drops characters off the map whenever he doesn't want to deal with them. I somehow doubt this is in any way different from the novel.

>>55416396
Sounds exactly like the anime. Thank you, anon.

This is why I keep asking novelfags to just provide the details and examples themselves. I can easily list examples of Ichika and Char's development from the anime, it should be easy to do so from the novel shouldn't it?

>>55416479
Honestly, 8-bit didn't do a terrible job. The biggest flaws of the anime (namely Ichika, Ichika, BOATS, and nonsensical plot) were already present in the novels. The only major mistake of 8-bit's was to push Charlotte as the main heroine (most likely to increase sales, because Charlotte was already most popular) which inconveniences the plot development that a theoretical season 2 would have that's mostly Houki-related.

>>55416572
Like killing Houki

>>55416632
The complaints he holds against the anime are valid, I just don't think he should try to extend them to the later novels without reading them.

It's more of a problem of attitude rather than whether he's actually right.

>>55416595
You are correct, but there's an underlying issue past that. It can also be stated as:
Volume 1 - Tabane
Volume 3 - Tabane
Volume 5 - Tabane
Volume 7 - Tabane. This genius is really creative in these plans of hers, isn't she?

The only way i see this being broken up is by the "world" this series takes place in to start giving a damn about a peace treaty being violated every few weeks. The anons in these threads have come up with nice ideas on their own as well. Clone and spy theories may sound stupid, but you have to start with some form of variety from this formula.

>>55416936
Don't forget the fact that:
Vol. 5 - Phantom Task (Madoka, Squall, and Autumn)

Will inevitably be revealed as
Vol. 5 - Tabane

I don't recall golems appearing in vol. 5, though. Weren't they a vol. 1 and 7 occurrence only?

>>55417064
Silver Gospel hijack was Tabane, may as well have been a golem. The pilot inside had no control of what was going on.

>>55406462
Anybody know what the tag on gelborro is for panties like this?

>>55417064
No, Vol 5 had a large scale golem attack where Cecilia showed everyone up by learning how to bend beams and took out a bunch of the golems.

>>55416917
All these people with attitude show up and hate the series because they see the author hasn't thought anything out long-term. There's foreshadowing, and there's plain formulaic predictability. Execution is its own problem, but when you can see 4 episodes or 3 volumes down the road where the series will be, and turn out to be right, one is left to feel like the author hasn't put as much thought into it. It'd be hard to not be upset about that.

It feels like NovelTroll or Hayate should just write the rest of these books.

Another problem is the fact that the plot hijinks do not gel well at all with the background setting Yumizuru has set up for himself.

Examples:
IS = dangerous, government-regulated WMD's almost never comes up. There ought to at least be a throwaway line here and there to justify why no one bats an eye at their ridiculously common usage in the series
IS = invincible, one-man army type weaponry. The main girls' IS's are shown to be nowhere near that level, with the only example of an IS even approaching those levels of possible destruction being White Knight and Silver Gospel. There's a grand total of one line that ambiguously states something about Silver Gospel's power being too much "even for an unlimited military IS" or something to that extent, but the apparent power gap between IS's actual operation and their mythical status as super-powered weaponry is too big too just leave alone with a statement like that that just raises more questions
Tabane- What's the point of establishing all these IS restrictions such as limited core numbers and international treaties if fucking Tabane's just going to IGNORE ALL OF THEM, EVERY NOVEL?
Phantom Task - Why is the fact that there is a terrorist organization with multiple WMD's on its hand (and perfectly capable of stealing more) not a matter of international importance. And, if it is, why hasn't this international uproar
been mentioned?
Now, these things don't necessarily have to clash with the background setting. If Yumizuru devoted more time to connecting the background setting with the current events, perhaps they could be justified. But as of now, too many logic-disturbing implications are left hanging for this to be believable.

>>55416917
Personally I'm just wondering how 8-bit modified Charlotte's character development. Was anything between her and Ichika in the anime non-canon? My understanding so far is that
1) Charlotte and Ichika not only developed together the most, but also have the best chemistry
2) Houki is basically hamfisted into being the OTP by the main plot, and this pisses off just about everybody.
3) This is all done on the excuse that 'Ichika is a tremendous retard.'

To be perfectly frank, I don't want to read some terrible novels just to get the right idea, which is why I just want someone who has read to provide with examples from the story of why those 3 statements could be wrong. So far I haven't had anyone do so, and even one novelbro pointed out that Houki's development is mostly one-sided.

>>55417316
Are you sure about that? Because the Animesuki summaries state that in vol. 6:

In vol.6, Cecilia finally embrace her awakening moment and does a major power-up.

While being seriously cornered in a battle against BT test-type #2 and its mysterious piloit 'M,'
she finally learns the high-level BT technique called 'The Flexible,' being able to modify the trajectory of beams fired from her BT weapons.

She chase M away with an attack using The Flexible, and the battle ends... with Ichika arriving a little too late. (bummer...)

So did Cecilia's technique upgrade happen in 5 or 6?

>>55417452
Besides a few narrative details, all i remember being different is after Laura forced that kiss on Ichika, she hit him with that piledriver.

>>55416396
See, I don't have a problem with Houki being the main character's 'true relationship', my issue is that if THAT'S the case, then you have to go through the steps of making that a fact or at least trying!

This is writing, hell, HAREM SERIES writing, 101!! You can't be doing all of this fucking around with other and then try and hash these two characters together, and then expect someone not to point out there's a fucking problem here.

I could see the anime having an issue with this, since it's based off one chapter in the novel, but this guy's got the space to do this shit, but he doesn't.
Ultimately, it's like he wanted to have his cake and eat it too.
He wanted all the fun of mecha and harem anime but has no idea how to make it actually work. If anything he got lucky, because this should have been shot down at the front gate.

This would be like if at the end of Tenchi Universe, Kiyone was the character that got with Tenchi. If you've been paying attention and/or even any sense of character and/or any self-fucking-respect, you'll see that's a problem and the writer is treating you like an asshole or just trying to troll you.

>>55417452
Nope, all that happened. The anime just paced those events more slowly and cut out less Charlotte-related events to put emphasis on her.

And, I don't think that labeling Houki's romantic development as ham-fisted and plot-forced is necessarily fair, I think think there's a genuine amount of chemistry between her and Ichika in the scenes they get. Less thank Charlotte, though.

>>55417589
I remember reading in volume 6 that Cecilia does training after school early on the novel, Chapter 2 I think since she hasn't mastered the bending and it doesn't mention prior.

Then again Teh Ping is on Chapter 3 in Vol 5 so we'll eventually see Cecilia gain the technique in the fight against the golem invasion if I'm correct.

>>55417647
Stop complaining about that. Yumizuru has been trying hard as fuck to develop Houki together with Ichika following the Charlotte shenanigans of vol. 2. There's a reason why people are pointing out "forced OTP", it's precisely because Houki has been getting an inordinate amount of development with Ichika.

Whether that development was good is another matter, but the screentime is there.

>>55417745
The summary of vol. 5 I'm going off of is here: http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=3773612&postcount=2004.

There's nothing mentioned about golems. Is this summary wrong or something?

You know why Houki x Ichika is OTP? Because together, they form the perfect black hole. Ichika provides the denseness, and Houki provides the gravitational pull that makes the plot revolve around the two of them.

>>55417857
Huh. Maybe I got that from NovelTroll when he used to be NovelBro long ago in a distant land, I Aku, the shapeshifting master of darkess...

Also the other girls need to wear the tracksuits. I just found that really alluring with Charlotte.

>>55417676
The thing is that pretty much anyone having a relationship with Ichika would have been hamfisted, because of how Ichika's written to basically not give a shit about anybody at any given time. He's known all these girls for extended periods of time, and would have already shown interest if he had any.

The only reason I stress Char so much is because she had ONE chance to launch into a proper romance subplot. Basically everything up to the bath scene is pretty much a standard romance opener. That, however, is long gone. If Ichika suddenly realized in Volume 8 that he loved Char, it would be just as retarded because she's already been sitting in the friendzone so long, just like everyone else has as per the author's formula. The other character who had a shot was Laura- If her bold personality from the start persisted, she could have made something happen, but the author cut her balls off because we can't be having any of that.

The big issue here is that romances don't just spring up out of nowhere, especially when dealing with teenage girls who all like a character right away. Something will happen quickly if at all, and nothing has, so at this point it's pretty much far too late for *anyone* to suddenly get a romance subplot.

>>55418115
Despite how dense Ichika is, I think Houki IS getting through to him some. He's commented on how alluring her eyes are, has dreamed of her, and is afraid of her getting jealous (admittedly something he's afraid of all girls doing). It wouldn't be too hamfisted if he were to have a SUDDEN LOVE EPIPHANY about her.

Any of the other girls, yes.

>>55418115
Would've been nice to see an Ichika with character seriously date these girls starting with Char, only for every relationship to fail horribly and then have him reconcile and end up with one of them properly at the end.

>>55417751
Screentime doesn't equal development. Development would be how Ichika learned Charlotte's secret, empathized, and decided to protect her. It's something that happens in the plot that demonstrates a bond between two characters.

I've asked about 10 times in this very thread for some novel-specific examples of development of the bond between Houki and Ichika, and have not gotten one yet. Ichika can walk in on Houki dressing 100 times, or eat lunch with her 50 times, and it still won't demonstrate any significant bond between the characters.

>>55418334
Well to be perfectly frank, the only instance I can think of right now that hasn't been animated already is the whole photo shoot/dinner Ichika has with Houki in Vol 7 but we're still a ways from seeing that translated.

And the whole Houki confessing to Ichika thing in Vol 4 doesn't count because of FUCK YEAH FIREWORKS.

>>55418282
We need to go deeper.

Ichika dates every single one of the girls... At the same time, and every relationship fails horribly when they find out what's going on. In the end, Ichika is reconciled when they slowly and painfully kill him for taking advantage of them.

In the end what we do is forcing our opinions and thoughts to Yumizuru.

>>55418593
It's called constructive criticism.

We're all telling him to be not as shitty of an author.

i like harems where the mc actually straight up gets all the bitches at the end

为什么人不是在谈论我！！

>>55418630
And better editor. Author is not working alone you know.

So out of those here who can see the flaws in this series, will any of you keep following it?

>>55418279
It doesn't need to be an epiphany or anything. My point is that when the only connection between two characters is that 'they're in love' it feels cheap. There just doesn't really seem to be any connection between Houki and Ichika other than the fact Houki wants his dick and Ichika is at a retard's pace becoming more aware of her presence. I understand you can't help who you fall in love with, but in a fictional romance it just leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth when 'they're in love because they're in love'.

>>55418818
I will. I read it for the jelly.

>>55418818
I'll stick with it to the end, and hope he changes, hes young, naive, its his first work, hes learning to ropes.
I got this far I'm not giving up yet.

Plus I got a waifu out of it.

>>55418733
I like harems where he actually gets with at least one girl in the end. Not any open "we're all going to stay friends" shit.

>>55418818
Honestly, this isn't the first time these flaws have been pointed out. And I'm still here.

OMNIBUS OR HAREM END

THIS IS WHY YOSUGA NO SORA AND TO LOVE RU ARE THE BEST HAREM ANIME/MANGA

>>55418908
True, but there's a difference between that and those who just come into the threads to call it shit. It was getting hard to tell if there was any real kind of vocal fanbase outside of the tripfags.

>>55418334
Despite being accused of deus-ex-machina development, Houki's development has been the most low-key so far. Houki's side is definitely developed, she's no longer the cold tsundere who expects Ichika to sweep her off her feet even though she's a bitch. I think the fact that she's heads over heels for him is obvious, there's need to go over that. Instead, let's see at what kind of advances she has made on him.

There's the whole episode 12 thing where she asks him whether he realizes she's a girl and they almost kiss.

In vol. 4, Houki dresses up for the obon festival and Ichika comments how pretty she is. They then go walk around and play in the stalls while reminiscing about their childhood. Houki tries to confess but LOL FIREWORKS BLOCK HER OUT.

In volume 7, She does things like invite him to dinner and tell him to hold her hands if his are cold and stuff like that.

On Ichika's side, he certainly comments (vocally) on her beauty once in a while. A lot less outward signs that he's interested in her, but this is Ichika, what can you expect. In vol. 7, he gets caught in her eyes during the photo shoot and apparently the atmosphere was so good around them that the photographer decided to take a picture there and then. There's also the fact that he dreams of her in her miko uniform and comments on how the girl he's seeing is beautiful even though he can't see her face.

>>55418818
Going to finish it. I'm thinking about waiting until the novels are translated because I just want to read it all in one go and be done with it. If and when the rest gets animated I'll watch it too.

>>55418972
Even if there is a difference, it still doesn't mean it isn't ever pointed out. It's just rarer, but it's not as if discussion about the quality of Yumizuru's writing never happen.

>>55418860
They're in love because of osananajimi shenanigans. You don't show that development because it's already happened. He respects her for her strength of moral character (which she apparently lost but then recovered) and she respects him for his. They have a solid platonic relationship already. They also find each other physically attractive.

What more do you want?

>>55418975
Well, the reason that it gets accused of deus ex machina is probably because everyone else is kinda just twiddling their thumbs while Houki's character advances at a rate similar to a snail dragging a bag of inbred hammers.

>>55418975
That's just trying to relish up everything >>55416396 said.

It hardly counts as a relationship between both characters

>>55419269
Why does it not count?

>>55419149
If Ichika's loved her because of osananajimi shenanigans we don't know about he certainly doesn't act like it.

Besides, playing that card is practically the same as playing the "OH, BY THE WAY GUYS, ICHIKA HAS HAD A GIRLFRIEND/LOVE INTEREST OFFSCREEN ALL THIS TIME" card.

>>55419386
It an entire post about how Houki's changed. It doesn't really have anything to do with a hypothetical bond between the two of them or an explanation why he'd basically ignore every other character while apparently waiting for her to make a move on him.

>>55418975
>There's the whole episode 12 thing where she asks him whether he realizes she's a girl and they almost kiss.
>In vol. 4, Houki dresses up for the obon festival and Ichika comments how pretty she is. They then go walk around and play in the stalls while reminiscing about their childhood. Houki tries to confess but LOL FIREWORKS BLOCK HER OUT.
>In volume 7, She does things like invite him to dinner and tell him to hold her hands if his are cold and stuff like that.

Yes, but WHY does this happen? This is exactly what people are frustrated about. There is nothing between Ichika and Houki other than 'he thinks her eyes are alluring' and 'he thinks she's pretty'. That's basically star-crossed lovers bullshit, but at an excruciatingly slow pace.

>>55419460
So the problem falls to Ichika not making a move on any of the girls?

Then we arrive back at the conclusion that he isn't interested in any of the girls at all.

>>55419572
Whoops, not star-crossed lovers. More like Love-At-First-Sight.

I really hope you all voted for Ceci.

>>55419627
She barely won, didn't she?
Like she'll probably lose her next round

>>55419572
It's not love-at-first-sight, it's one-sided romance, because Houki's side is clearly developed with FLASHBACKS and whatnot but Ichika is dense as fuck.

>>55419693
>>55419609
>>55419595
>>55419572
>>55419460
>>55419415
>>55419386
>>55419269
>>55419202
>>55419149
>>55419106
>>55419087
>>55419087

Maybe we need to clarify what exactly constitutes a valid relationship development both in-universe and from a meta point of view.

>>55419595
Frankly, what people are pissed off about is that none of the other girls are even given a proper chance. It's like if you watched The Bachelor (It's just an example, don't get me started on reality shows.) and the fucking Bachelor inexplicably ignored EVERY girl other than one until the very end.

Frankly, it's just really shitty writing that 'He never makes a move on X just because' and 'Oh, all along he liked X just because'

>>55419748
I just wish there was some more writing done for the other girls. I don't think Rinin would just sit on the sidelines forever and not do anything. If she loves him she would try to spend time together with him.

>>55419761
Hey hey, don't be like that, Kanzashi is given a fairly good chance.

>>55419834
At this point, I just want Rin to fall in love with another guy and end up with a happy end like that, because her chances of ending up with Ichika are frankly almost zero now. If she does end up with him, the plot will probably break its back from being bent over so much.

I hoped it would be Dan, but alas, it seems Utsuho has caught his interest first.

>>55419889
It's always made me wonder why he even created her. He just sets her aside or uses her for harem shenanigans. Why did you make this character if she isn't even relevant or has no fighting chance. Why did you do this to me.

>>55419748
He needs to learn to balance the girls in the novels, giving each their fair share.
Make it less obvious Houki will win, no point in watching a game if you know how its going to end.
Learn to put the girls into the plot, so its not just Houki, Ichika, Chifuyu and Tatenashi when the plot needs to move forward
and stop doing events at school that lead to golem fights. Its obvious the Mondo Grosso at the end of the series will be interrupted for the final battle

Then we'll have a good series

>>55419922
She's exclusively there for jelly, I guess. Sort of the "isn't it sad" character that everybody is supposed to snicker at while she vainly attempts to catch the MC's interest, oblivious to the fact that she has been doomed to an end of forever alone.

Feels bad.

>>55419748
Valid relationship development is basically what happened between Char and Ichika. Char had a conflict, Ichika got involved, they grow a lot closer because of it.

The problem, once again, is Houki has no development of that sort with Ichika. Ichika apparently just likes her for no apparent reason, and their entire development is based off of 'you look pretty, Houki'.

>>55419955
It feels like the jelly is the only thing that's been properly handled. It is delicious, but I wonder how long it would take for the gag to become stale.

>People complaining about star-crossed lover bullshit
>Houki's birthday is on Tanabata
>Altair = Ichika
>Vega = Houki
>Deneb = Tabane

Just as keikaku.

Wait is there a season two?

>>55419889
>>55419834
I can't believe they actually finished this scene without Ichika eating any.

Being Rin truly is suffering.

What is this??

I really hope you vote for Cecilia because if not, she can't win this.

Kind sirs I kindly request the information on this anime.

>>55419889
Dan would have made a better protagonist.

To tell the truth, why don't we leave all of those "WHO GETS TO KEEP ICHIKA" things to the fans. That way, we get even more doujin to enjoy and more things for Hayate to translate.

This would even get better if all the doujins simply implied a harem end.

>>55420117
Getting shafted at every turn.

>>55420315
At least they made a doujin of her doing it with Ichika...

>>55420272
Better personality, better looks, better sister, better voice actor.

This show really should have been about Dan.

>>55420272
Char should've been the male lead.

>>55420384
Yeah, but sex doujins don't mean that much to me. I'm not all about sex or crazy for it.

fuck... fuck...

doctor says i cant fap for a week and then i find this thread

>>55420384
Ichika pisses me off so much that it's gotten to the point where I don't even like to see him in doujins anymore.

>>55420384
doujins mean nothing, they're not canon
If they did, basically mean Char wins

>>55420562

you poor thing

>>55420521
You must be joking if you think Dan has a better voice actor and a better sister than Ichika.

>>55420743
>implying Ran isn't sexier than Chifuyu
She certainly would be kinder and more loving

>>55420743
Dan's voice is deeper. Then again, I might just have started hating Ichika's voice simply by association with the character.

Oh, and imoutos > onee-sans by default.

>>55420831

>>55420613
At least she'll be happy about it.

>Cecilia using Tabasco sauce for her dish
I'm ok with this

>>55420924
Maybe about the SFW ones, but I can't see Charlotte being happy being seen so sexualized
and don't get me started on those ntr ones...

>>55420521
Dan is extremely possessive of his sister to the point he'll even kidnap her and take her back home.

Ran even had to sneak out with her middle school friends just so she could go to a local festival because Dan doesn't let her hang out with her friends at night.

>>55420994
I meant that she'll be happy with Ichika seeing that they both seem to love each other (I think).

>Girl who was pressing her nipples against you in the bath and holding your hand pulls you into a dressing room
>Starts undressing
>Obviously wants to fuck
>Stare at a wall and start reciting pi

SO
FUCKING
BETA

I think Yumizuru needs to do these following things in the next few volumes:

-Resolve and cancel Kanzashi's romantic subplot. She's gotten by far the most vitriol so far, and advancing it further would do no good, especially since her introduction was all kinds of forced. Perhaps "I'm no good for him as of now. I need to seriously re-examine myself and grow as a person before I can seriously pursue Ichika" would work and she could become a recurring side character whose progress we could see.
-Elevate Tatenashi to main harem member. She's HEAVILY involved in the main plot as of now, and surprisingly, in a not-so-obtuse manner, and frankly, her continuing to sexually harass Ichika will become extremely irritating after a while if we know that it's not going to go anywhere
>Reduce Ichika inviting girls out/them cooking for him/harem hijinks. Don't remove it completely, of course, it's the main entertainment. But, reducing it will make there seem like less "pointless romantic fluff" and more "development"
>Have each girl seriously re-examine why they like Ichika, and preferably have this be prompted by a change in their status in the main plot. As in, they are thrown into the main conflict by some combination of their past, their country's politics, and their relationship with Ichika, and are given some sort of crisis that prompts inner reflection
-For Cecilia, this would probably be tied to Madoka, Silent Zephyr, Britain, and her fortune. Maybe Silent Zephyr's theft has put British government into an extremely precarious position that at the same time threatens their ability to help Cecilia protect her fortune. Cecilia reaffirms that she needs a "strong man" to help support her in these hard times

>>55421053
Ah ok

>>55421080
>Dunois company's crisis escalates as no progress has been made on IS development even with the data that Charlotte sends back. Charlotte's father begins to get desperate and starts pressuring Charlotte. French government appreciate's Charlotte's talent and wishes to keep her as representative cadet, but at the same time, is also deeply troubled by Dunois company's crisis, so they also begin to put pressure on Charlotte, encouraging her to take riskier and more legally shady methods to acquire data. Maybe to further embroil them in the plot, Tabane appears in the backrooms of France to give Dunois company an offer that they can't refuse... Charlotte reminds Ichika of the promise he made with her about figuring out her problems.
-Laura's status as an Advanced comes to the front when Kuu appears, revealing herself to also be a product of the supersoldier program. What's more, being a more recent and advanced Advanced (heh), as well as being Tabane's "daughter", she is superior to Laura in terms of both piloting ability and IS specs. Laura is recalls her battle with Ichika and how she learned what "true strength" is (lol PROTECTING OTHERS and MORALFAGGING), and decides not to despair.
>Rin... uhh... Rin... Rin remembers how Ichika protected her from bullies and decides that she's been childish in attacking Ichika and that she ought protect him instead... becoming a second Houki... fuck it

What the writer stops to be doing is interrupting everything with Golem Attacks.

If he really wants to show how the girls have progressed IS-wise just don't interrupt the tournaments and make them fight against each other, or against other Representatives (there have been mentions of other Candidates without personal IS)

And he can introduce side-characters without making them part of the harem.

>>55421108
>In tandem with Cecilia's development, reintroduce Madoka and line her up in direct conflict with Ichika. Probably the most obvious route is to make her some sort of "abandoned loveless child" (parents abandoned her? Failed Tabane clone experiment) that became immensely jealous of Ichika and Chifuyu's family bonds once she learned of their existence years after being abandoned. Then, of course, Ichika beats her up, swoops in, and tells her that even in the most wretched circumstances, people can find love. She then gets adopted. Somewhere down this line of drama, have her abandon Silent Zephyr in favor of a White Knight/Kure-Zakura/Byakku Shikki/IS that is similar to these in her transition from Cecilia to Ichika's rival
>Have Houki realize what Tabane's up to. Put her in the confidence of Chifuyu as the only two who know what's really going on. Chifuyu x houki scenes can be all about kendo and how KENDO LINKS HER AND ICHIKA TOGETHER THROUGH THEIR STRENGTH. Or, alternatively, have her fall from grace and join Tabane.
-All this PLOT will hopefully provide more meaningful character and storyline development which makes the remaining harem fluff seem more substantive as well with this backing behind it


Comments?

>>55421000
Should he ever marry Chifuyu, their kids will be more fucked in the head than Germany.
>>55420521

A harem lead with something other than medium-length spiky black hair and dough eyes?
Impossible!

>>55421080
I think it's heavily suggested through a conversation Tatenashi has with Kanzashi at the end of Vol 7 that she has fallen for Ichika, but I can only see that leading to Kanzashi's inferiority complex getting worse.

>>55421173
You could turn that around and show how far Kanzashi's CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT has advanced when she doesn't get all pissy about Tatenashi being in love with Ichika.

>>55421173
And then A NEW RIVAL APPEARS to the five reps we already have.

>>55421000
Can't say I blame him, man. You never know what those middle school sluts could rope her into.

>>55421136
What the author does is to rewrite the entire IS story to not be retarded.

>>55421100
YOUR POSTING THE WRONG PIC

>>55421396
>give the green light for recolors
>this happens
What devilry have I wrought.

This will be the only thing I'm drawing tonight. There remains work to be done.

Perhaps I should invest in a name and tripcode combo meal. Any suggestions?

>>55421705
Welp, apparently I spelled Cecilia's name wrong. I'm surprised nobody has given her a nickname yet, whether out of affection or teasing, like "Ceci" or "CC".

Also, for the record, I'm for Houki end. But you probably already knew that, Hataki and Momoaki and all.

>>55421705
>IMPLYING I NEED YOUR PERMISSION TO COLOR IT

>>55421832
Well in Japan they've got a nickname for her due to her assets.

>>55421840
>implying you would have colored it had I not reminded everybody that there was nothing stopping them from doing it

>>55421916
What program are you using for the drawings?

>>55421832
>>55421705
> Perhaps I should invest in a name and tripcode combo meal. Any suggestions?
Hataki, duh.

>>55421983

>>55421916
>IMPLYING IMPLICATIONS

>>55421832
I always call her Ceci.

>>55422042
Or maybe "凰百秋" for cruel irony?

>>55422045
I call bullshit.

>>55422141
You get the gist of what I'm saying.

>>55422097
Can't into moon. What does it say?

>>55421705
Oh yes.

>>55422239
"Huang Bai Qiu (Hundred Autumns)"

AKA "the girl with less chance of existing than Lion Ushiromiya".

I'm sorry, iPhone, I just can't help but poke fun at Rin's misfortune. I'd give her a reassuring pat on the head, though.

>>55422322
None taken. Some things just are how they are. Can't help it.

She never asked for this

>>55422322
Well
>>55422097
Ouch.

Nah, leave it at Hataki.

>>55422426

>>55422322
>Hundred Autumns
Is Ichika's daughter going to be named this no matter who her mother is?
Though, this presents a problem in German, French, and English...

>>55422426
I just want to pat her head :3

>>55422426
Such is life. Shit happens. I never asked for it either. What has this author done to you and me... ;_;

>>55422426
And she has a derpy dragon of an IS.

Being Rin is suffering.

>>55422462
You can always make "Hundred" her middle name.

"Saison Cent" (Charlotte)
"Autumn Hundred" (Cecilia)
"Herbs Hundert" (Laura)

Why doesnt' Ichika use Reiraku Byakuya in short-bursts so he doesn't run out of energy?

>>55422720
Probably takes a lot of energy to start it up.
Like a car, you turn it off and on a lot, burns more gas then just keeping it running

>>55422720
Because he actually conserves more energy when he uses it constantly.

The fact that he DOES use it constantly implies that he's a fucking moron, dense as fuck. Remember that in an area with extremely high gravity, time travels at a slower pace. So, when Ichika is dense as fuck, his sword actually runs out of energy more slowly.

If he uses it like any rational, intelligent man would, then his gravitational field would disappear, and the resulting acceleration of time would offset any possible gains from turning the sword off.

>>55422720
Better question: If Ichika spent his life learning the same kendo as Houki and Chifuyu, why does he suck at it so badly? He has just as many years put in learning the exact same thing as Houki.

>>55422905
because he fell out of it when Houki left and Chifuyu started using IS and traveling around the world, to Germany
He was living on his own, or with Rin's family, probably didn't stay with it when no one was around

>>55422905
Because he stopped practicing it throughout his entire middle school life.

France indeed.

>>55422520
Pasta delivery.

You know, honestly, I'd watch the fuck out of this. Non-genderswapped, of course. And told from the perspective of Rin.

>My name is Huang Linyin
>I'm a second year at (something) middle school
>This is Orimura Ichika, my osananajimi
>Although he's a bit dense, he's also kind... and brave...
>What am I saying?!
>This is Gotanda Dan
>He's beta as fuck
>And this is a thieving fox of a girl (Ran)

And if we were to veer into non-canon:
>Eh?! A transfer student? Shinonono Houki...
>FIRST OSANANAJIMI?!
>And now, a rich westerner oujo?
>A suspicious boy from France?
>And a strange military otaku girl from Germany?!
>What has my life become...
>Jouji Nakata narrator: and now this young Rin must fight on for her love. What kind of future is in store for her? Will it be sweet, or spicy? Are those bells ringing the sounds of love or despair? (insert more stereotypical puns)


Maybe she'd have more luck in this setting?
I don't have the image that goes with this unfortunately. Have a thumbnail instead.

>>55423013
>saving a thumbnail
Someone post the full picture for this poor soul

>>55423013

Meh, This tripcode is easier to remember.

>>55423090
Why does Dan have a mustache?

>>55423554
That was... supposed to be a grimace.

Somehow it ended up looking like a moustache.

>>55423090
Speaking of that, I wish we got more background on life with Rin, Ichika, Dan, and Ran when they were kids.
Actually I just want more background on all the girls, such wasted potential, I wouldn't mind if he devoted an entire novel to fleshing out their characters.

Maybe you all forgot but the war isn't over.
>That Cecilia "bang".
Also this thread is awesome after some boring threads lately

>>55423844
She's gonna carry that weight.

Tuturu~

Tatenashi has more balls than her.

Mighty fine thread guys, had the most fun in a long time, shame we can't have more IS threads like this
We've had so many bad threads recently

>>55422426
She never asked for this. She did it to herself.

What is she got more screentime?

>>55425807

She would be a bit more popular, hopefully they can flesh her out a bit in the OVA or S2...

Also
>Miss entire thread

FTGE.jpg.gif

>>55419996
>Char had a conflict, Ichika got involved, they grow a lot closer because of it.

Houki had a conflict (the gospel), Ichika was involved, they grow a lot closer of it

See? Easy. The conflict was different. But it's still there. And just because Charlotte push her tits to Ichika doesn't mean him want Charlotte as lover.

And does it occurs to you that the reason Ichika is 'dense' is because he don't want to make a move to his girl friends that may cause misunderstanding, because he already have someone he likes? If the author let Ichika being in the same room with Charlotte, it will only be a disrespect for her, as Ichika's heart is somewhere else

>>55425919
No no, many of Ichika's actions are genuine denseness. If they were out of faithfulness to a certain girl he likes, he would think, "this is bad, my heart belongs to xxx only", but no, his thoughts are more like "I have no idea what's going on. Why is xxx doing this strange act?"

In fact, he gets called something to the effect of "the king of denseness" later by one of his classmates in the novels.

>>55426003
It make me wonder what IS would be like if Ichika was an ultra perv or a ladies man.

>>55426250
>I-I-I-chika... we've met after so long...
>What is it Houki? Oh, your shy face is so cute. I've missed it so much
>Wha-a-a?! What are you sa-
>Hahaha, but an angry Houki is cute too. I've always adored that pouting face of yours.
>Hauuu... (steam rising out of head)

>Do you really think you can defeat me in combat, Cecilia Alcott?
>Hmph! You ought to be asking yourself that question! I, Cecilia Alcott, representative cadet of Britain, shall not go down that easily!
>Really. But your eyes are telling me that you are just begging to be dominated by me, deep deep down. Perhaps you should throw the match? It's not as if I am not confident in my ability to win, but perhaps you would like to be conquered by me in more... private quarters?
>Y-y-you insubordinate man! Know your place! (Aaaaah~, he's so strong and overbearing... I think i'm about to faint)
>B-b-but Ichika, I'm a guy!
>As long as it's cute, it doesn't matter. Ah, and look here, apparently you weren't a guy after all!
>I will not accept you, Orimura Ichika! (slap)
>No u (slap).
>(This pain... it feels just like Instructor's slap...)
>Orimura Ichika... PLEASE PUNISH ME MORE!

>I'm his childhood friend! Ichika belongs to me!
>Preposterous! Ichika-san only deserves a lady of highest breeding, such as myself!
>Both of you realize that I've slept with him a dozen times more than both of you combined, right...? Teehee, the advantages of being a roommate
>NONE OF YOU SHALL DARE TO TOUCH MY WIFE.

>Hey everybody?
>ICHIKA-SAMA~
>Why don't we just all get along? I'm enough man for all of you.
>HAI, ICHIKA-SAMA~

Infinite Stratos sure would end fast.

>>55426564
No Rin?

>>55426629
Hahaha oh wow.

>>55426564
Maya: Orimura-sensei, this is bad, students in IS academy are getting pregnant at an alarming pace! At this rate, we'll have no students left fit to pilot IS's anymore! Do you know the reason behind this?
Chifuyu: That idiot... always the same... actually, no. He's gotten better.
Maya: ?
Small, black-haired child: Mama! There you are! I came to visit!
Chifuyu: HUH?! YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE! QUICK, GO BACK HOME, NOBODY'S SUPPOSED TO KNOW ABOUT YOU HERE.
Maya: Orimura-sensei... could that possibly be...
Chifuyu: YOU. NEVER. SAW. THIS. CHILD.
Ichika: Oh, Chifuyu-nee!
Child: Papa!
Maya: Huh...? Wait... don't tell me!
Chifuyu: Oh god no...

>>55426629
Who?

>>55426629
>>55426638
>>55426839

As usual.

>>55426844
I actually feel sorry for the wee lass, I hope the give her more time in S2.

>>55426844
>>55426776
>>55426564
No, actually, Rin has got it best because...

1. Pimpmaster Ichika gets every girl he meets pregnant.

2. Who was his middle school classmate?

Rin is already a happy and fulfilled teenage mother, while the other girls still have to catch up.

>>55426944
That still puts her the same level as Ran.

>>55426958
Dan put a stop to that, actually.

>>55426564
>Ichika forgets to turn his swag off
>Houki's pout turned into steaming
>Cecilia turned into a masochist
>Laura still as bossy as ever

Hell, I'd watch this.

>>55429389
But, Cecilia is used to being beaten by the other girls

Breaking News: Cecilia lost her saimoe match.

>>55431968
Shikataganai-desu wa~

>>55431968

>>55429389
>still bossy
>asking to be slapped again

Well, I suppose she's commanding him to...

>>55431968
Link?

>>55435340
http://www.animesaimoe.org/

>>55431968
I don't get the big deal about these.
I mean sure its cool if they win, but if they lose, who cares?
They're still important to us and in these threads, isn't that what matters?

>>55435391
THAT SOUNDS VERY SEDITIOUS CITIZEN......

>>55426564
>Both of you realize that I've slept with him a dozen times more than both of you combined, right...? Teehee, the advantages of being a roommate

Oh Charlotte.

>>55431968
In memory of Dat Ass

>>55426776
>>55426564
I'd watch the hell out of that.
Multiple times.

>>55431968
So who's left?
Just Houki and Charlotte?
and what chance do they have?

>>55438495
Char is up against Sayaka from Madoka

Sayaka's vote-count on her matches were overwhelming, but i have faith on Char.

>>55438632
All all the characters from Madoka have overwhelmingly large amounts of vote.
I hope Charlotte wins, but I wouldn't put money on it
Poor Charlotte...
>>55438495
Houki goes against Agnese Sanctis and Kanon Nakagawa. Don't know how she'll do.

>>55438838
I think she has a decent shot.

As far as Houki/Kanon goes, I think Houki's got it in the bag.

You underestimate how much Japan loves tsunderes.

>>55439432
Do creators pay attention to saimoe or do they just laugh it off?
Hate to think some popularity contest would influence Izuru

>>55439882
The overall rankings of his characters shouldn't affect him too much, but I can see him editing the story to reflect changing popularity internally within his own character cast. Seeing how Charlotte's once again showing herself as first place girl, though, I don't think anything is oing to change.

>>55439432
>You underestimate how much Japan loves tsunderes.
If they love tsunderes so much, shouldn't they see a bad one when its looking right at them?

>>55440173
Japan loves tsunderes. Doesn't mean they don't have shit taste in them.
>implying that Houki isn't a god-tier tsundere

>>55440225
houki is a far better tsundere then most it

>>55440391
Shes mediocre at best

japan hates non-japanese. houki is japanese. everyone else is a filthy gaijin. do the fucking math. wait, americans fail compared to grorious nippon maths. go to mcdonalds fat american hamburgers.

>>55440173
You know Aria sold like crazy, right?

Houki is decent compared to anime Aria.

>>55440539
No no, she's adorable as fuck post vol. 3 and on.

Especially in volume 4 when she's being teased by her uncle about a certain boy she wants to chase.

>>55440710
Whoops, aunt, not uncle.

>>55440600
Yeah they hate gaijin, especially the French and Paris.

/sarcasm

I dunno, I really don't like Houki, and I really don't like how shes coming across forced romance with Ichika.
She doesn't do anything till she gets her IS, and then all of a sudden shes the most important girl, and the story can only move forward if shes there
So boring

Its obvious that the author was learning when introducing characters because as the series progress the characters got deeper and more interesting than Houki, who was first introduced.

Of course everything i say, has been stated above

>>55440600
That's just stupid.
Basically saying Houki wins by default because she's Japanese.
I know some in Japan are xenophobic but if the author feels Charlotte or even Rin should win the. He should do that

>>55442007
>but if the author feels Charlotte or even Rin should win the. He should do that

But he doesn't. He wants grorious Nippon master race to win. It's the fans that have Paris syndrome.

>>55426564
It's like normal Akane, except childhood friend...
Various degrees of want.

>>55429389
I'd watch it.

>>55431968
That's a shame.
How's Houki doing?

>>55444198
>>55444198
Well Houki is as racist as her sister.
name one non-japanese character that she considers a friend

>>55446170
This opens up the possibility of a sequel where the main lead's harem is composed entirely of his half-sisters.

>>55446568
Ichika is Japanese
and before anyone says Tatenashi, shes Japanese too
The point is she has no foreign friend

>>55446482
>implying Houki has any friends at all and it wasn't out of a sheer miracle that Tatenashi and Ichika managed to bulldoze into her life

>>55446482
Ichika's one.
Also
>implying you can name more than one person she considers as a friend
Though i'm only on chapter 2 of volume 2 LN wise, so I could be wrong.

くっ Third time's the charm I guess? No, I have no clue why I use old phrases ethier.

>>55444198
I know I'm in the wrong place
but I like all the girls, and when people go about how glorious and superior their waifu is over the other, just feels like you invalidates your argument.
But thats just me

>mfw its open end
>mfw I have no face

>>55446739
>non japanese
Read that wrong, oh well.

>>55446620
so shes that racist kid in class that thinks fighting is the only way to get attention and he parents don't love her. i had a kid like that my elementary school his parents where all about white power.

>>55446919
But Houki assaults people without discrimination.

Actually, scratch that, she assaults Japanese people by far the most.

>"My goodness, don't you read your history? Since the dawn of time, the world has never been fair, even once "

Every.Fucking.Time.

>>55447357
Helps that Ichika is japanese.

>>55446501
Is that a request for me to draw the remaining harem's potential daughters?

Because I can't. Not for a few hours anyways. Expect pics to arrive in a few hours.

Maybe I should stop giving them all dark hair, because sameface is rearing its ugly head and they all look the same without any foreign hair colors.

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>>55447404
Have to give Yumizuru credit there, that is a prime trolling line.