Pic related, Black Wing's "final message"

>>55198918
I'm not upset, just curious. From what I've seen, a single anon could waltz into a scanalators site, as a guest, and completely shut down his operation. In fact, I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often.

A lot of scanlators are children, yes. They are being way too serious about what people say to them.

I do feel for the groups who get upset when sites like MangaFox upload their scanlations, even when they have clearly expressed that they don't want their scans up there. That's just low. It's going to get worse, since MF are going to start completely ignoring scanlation groups from now on.

>Nozoki Ana scanlator drama again.
That shit is cursed.

>>55199093
I agree, but delaying releases punishes readers more than it does mangafox. The best solution would be to form a sort of union with the other scanalation sites, banding together against hosting sites.

The scanalators would never do this, though... they all hate each other so much, it just couldn't work.

>>55198699

>Nozoki Ana

you know what? an anon posted Nozoki Ana chapter 60 almost 2 weeks ago, but mods deleted the thread before he was done dumping the chapter

>>55199225
Actually, Woxxy's FoolSlide is being used by quite a few groups. That is probably the solution; a semi-decentralized manga viewer/downloader.

MangaFox really should abide by the groups' wishes, though.

>Getting mad over people not following your wishes in regard to your illegal distribution of copyrighted works

Scanlator bitch tears really are the best tears

>i will not check 20 different scanlator sites

How much retarded can you get?

mangaupdates.jpg

Really, if a site like Baka-Updates became more popular, it would be the best for the individual scanalators. Japanzai doesn't even have its online reader, and the download process is a pain in the ass. Its no surprise that the first thing people are going to check is a broad-spectrum site like Mangafox.

This is the web

japanzai.com/index.php?topic=743.30

see ebaumsworld controversy

if the internet went up in arms for that
then the same can go for this

>Nozoki Ana

That's what you get for reading retarded fanservice shit

>>55199385
OP here, this isn't my comment, but just watch the shitstorm that erupts. Rather than just deleting the post, every translator and cleaner on the board is going to go full rage mode on the "guest." I won't be surprised if that one post delays the release of the next chapter.

>>55199271
>MangaFox really should abide by the groups' wishes, though.
Why should they? It's not like the scanlator groups give a shit about the wishes of the manga artist who's works they are illegally distributing.

>>55199447
>ebaumsworld
feels kind of old man

>>55199469
Sure, but it's not like the scanlators are making any money off it. If Woxxy is to be believed, he's even losing money on FoolRulez.

MF on the other hand, is chock full of ads and crap. It's even run by a fucking company. Its only purpose is to make money.

>>55199469
But if the manga in question isn't being released in the western world, it doesn't hurt either. In fact, it would only make it more likely the title will be released in english.

i dont read a lot of Manga.

what does it mean by watermark?

I know what they are IRL but what do they have some shade cover on most manga so it doesn't look clean? i've never seen this before if its the case does that happen often?

>>55199561
It doesn't matter to the reader if the site is making money or not, just how fast the releases appear and how good quality they are.

>>55199588
A watermark is basically just stamping every page with the scanalator's logo, so that even if it is uploaded to a hosting site like mangafox, the reader will know where it originated.

>>55199569
>Seriously just learn it and be done with the drama.
The best advice for all of /a/.

>>55199632
Though that's true, the scanalators don't see it that way. And in the end, its their childish tendencies that will lead them to cancel a project, regardless of the number of fans that project has.

Once your shit is on the internet. It's public property.

I guess I'm lucky, the worst scanlator drama I've seen for my favorite series is updates being slow and the translator being whiny sometimes when they don't get comments.

Suns gonna rise, I guess

>>55199606
It matters to the scanlators.

And sure, you can claim that scanlators are leeching off of the manga authors' work, they are putting time and effort into releases as well, so I don't think it's totally wrong for them to decide if other people should make money off their releases.

>The point is scanlators have no rights to their scans.

Whatthefuckamireading?

>>55198974
>>55198699
I translate mostly h-doujins but I can understand the feeling.
It's a combination of factors but:
1.) You are getting this shit for free. People do it as a hobby. If they have a bad day, someone happens to troll them when they are in a bad mood (even if it's an obvious troll) it's easy to go "you know what, fuck it, why do I even bother with these people?"
2.) People do this as a hobby and therefore get no compensation (if they do, they are doing something illegal, but we'll get to that). They do get genuinely pissed off when someone uploads that stuff to mangafox or even just exhentai because someone else is making money of both their work (translation) and the original authors work without paying either of them. If they do have a way to make profit, they'll get pissed off someone else is hogging all the viewers who'd bring in ad revenue and traffic.
3.) Yes, we are selfentitled pricks who do this to get praise and (at least in a few cases) because it's a way to use the Japanese knowledge we've acquired and check if we are doing a good job. Constructive criticism because of mistranslation, weird English grammar, etc. are welcome. Obvious trolling is only going to piss off your scanlator of choice for the same reason as number 1.

>>55199723

Do they have? It's not like they can do anything about it.

>>55199723
If a bank robber hides the money in his house, and then has it stolen from him by another robber, whose money is it? The bank's, obviously. Since the scanalators have no right to the scans in the first place, they have no right to be complaining when those scans are stolen from them.

Unfortunately, the only people these conflicts really harm are the readers.

Glad I created this thread, its interesting to see what other people's opinions of scanalators are.

I heard watermarks?

>>55199684
but there's nothing in it for the scanlators

Scanlators can't take the moral high ground towards Mangafox for distributing it

but

readers can't take the moral high ground towards scanlators for scanlating it

everyone is a thief that has no standing

and as such I don't have the right to rage about this topic

>>55199850
Unfortunately, most scanalators don't see it that way.

>>55199871
I already use mangaupdates thanks, and I'm not the anon posting in the first image. I just like going to the Japanzai forums after every Nozoki Ana update, because this literally happens every single time.

"Oh hey, I'm gonna translate this shit along with my internet pals, just because I want to"

"STOP TROLLING ME OVER THE INTERNET OR ILL DELAY THE RELEASES, IM THE TRANSLATOR THERFOR IM GOD YOU BITCH, YOU SHOULD BE GLAD I SPEND MY TIME DOING THIS SHIT FOR YOU. NOW ON YOUR KNEES AND SUCK MY DICK, AND YOU AMY HAVE A NEW CHAPOTER TOMORROW. MAYBE."

>>55199927
You DIDN'T suck the translator's dick?

What are you, a fucking fag?

>>55199871
>wall of text
versus
>go to reader site

I stick with online readers than you.

why dont scanners treat manga the same as subbers treat anime? they should be doing it because they feel it's nessicary not for the praise, not for the fans but becuase it's something they love and want to give other people the chance to read it and enjoy it to. they shouldn't even look at comments about it. their passion alone should be what keeps them going.

and in the case of haters:
rule11- all your carfully picked arguments can easily be ignored.

[spoilers]fuck that makes me feel like a newfag[/spoilers]

>>55199927
Well, yeah, bro. You might be surprised but scanlators also have something called lives and use their free time to do this shit.
Piss them off, they'll just go back to play Persona 3 and pretend Aegis is their girlfriend (or level up their WoW character)

>Its like they're all children.

It's not /like/ they're children, they are children oftentimes.

>>55199225

The thing is that it's impossible to both release your scans to the general public and to keep them from ending up on mangafax and the rest of the warehousing sites, so really scanlators just need to accept that warehousers are gonna warehouse and idiots are gonna idiot.

>>55200010
That might be because you are one.

God damnit I wish someone else would pick up Nozoki Ana. I barely read any manga and it's one of the few I'm currently reading that I enjoy.

>>55200010
the failed spoiler tags don't help

>>55200010
>implying there are any fansubbers still doing it for the love of anime.

>>55199993
>wall of text
>Translation: I'm 12 years old
Do you even know how to use an RSS feed?

>than you
I hope you're trolling and not just clinically retarded you lazy piece of shit.

>HURR DURR EFFICIENCY, MANGA IS SERIOUS BUISNESS

ITT: there is nothing you can do about it (except drop the manga)

Anime fanbase is infested with autists. Autists gonna autist.

>>55200013
>>55200010
Unlike subbers you don't have any of those companies doing the scanlating themselves.

You people probably don't remember the dramas around Dattebayo and other fansubbers who did shit like this back in the day before crunchy was around (not that I like crunchy but at least they are doing the translation they offer themselves not stealing it from someone).

The day mangafox starts scanlating shit themselves I'll stop abusing the 4chan quoting feature when someone posts a screenshot from them.

>>55200127
>than you

Clearly, it is a typo. It was meant to be "thank you". If the best you can do is insult me personally and poke fun of typos then that just shows how weak your argument really is.

>Tazmo profits off scanlators' works
>Everyone bashes Tazmo
>Online manga readers profits off scanlators' works
>Everyone bashes the scanlators for bitching about it
How low have you fallen, /a/?

>>55200254
They are just being white knights for the mangakas.

"Oh, pirating and downloading things that are copyrighted on the internet is bad!"

this is why I'll learn Japanese and never deal with this again. One day.

>>55200285
Is this copypasta?

MangaFox is shit, yes, but groups like FoolRulez and RHS have full-quality scans in their readers.

This is a dumb argument.

Why do shit sites like MF still exist?

>>55200233
Thats ironic, you ignored the rest of the text and went straight for the typo.

>that just shows how weak your argument really is.
Arguement? What arguement? Its a point, learn the difference you illiterate shit. You use online readers? I'm not surprised, enjoy eating shit.

Never change faggot, go ahead and change the subject you're not going to refute my point anyway.

>>55200333
Finding raws would probably be much harder than getting them from scanlators

http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?&tid=28000

http://forums.mangafox.com/threads/297962-The-World-God-Only-Knows-chpt-159

http://forums.mangafox.com/threads/266751-Red-Hawk-Scanlations

http://forums.mangafox.com/forums/8393-Scanlator-Hosting-Policies-(Closed)

>>55200359
That online readers are somehow bad. When we have established that they are just more convient.

>>55200254
Back then, scanlators attacked Tazmo and appealed to their fans rationally and made their loyalty worth something.

Now they just bitch at their fanbase for the sake of a couple bads, shit up their fan's discussion threads for attention and then crumble or drop shit at a moment's notice.

>>55200345

Well I don't know about you guys, but I've been on the internet long enough and seen enough things more stable than scanlation groups go under that I want to personally archive all the mango I read.

I cleaned for a scanlation group for a few weeks. It is a pain in the ass. I have sympathy for them because they work hard and most of them try to make enough money via advertisements/donations to pay there web hosting fees, and purchase manga they plan on scanlating. Those online manga readers kill the groups money source, and they need to start completely funding themselves if they want to continue. So essentially you work your ass off so that you can then fork money out of your pocket to buy manga, and pay for a server. Online Manga Readers that aren't cooperating with the scanlation groups are killing them.

So much drama I hope sub drama never comes back that was so zzzzz.

>>55200542
Just popped into the thread.

So if I want to remove my traffic from online mangareaders, I should make note of the scanlator groups and use RSS? Anything else?

> "waaahhhhh the mango we translated is hosted in ohter webo site!! fuck the readers, they should only read OUR things HERE, because WE tranlated it and so we want the WHOLE INTERNET know that!! waaahhhhh"

Sup /a/

>>55200439
>When we have established that they are just more convient
You're speaking for /a/ again, retard. Established when? Because you said so?

>That online readers are somehow bad
Gee, opinions. More accurately, shitty FORCED opinions from a tripfag who can't type properly.

I think its time you headed back to >>>/gaia/, you're nothing more than a Pork wrangler-tier shitposter.

So I recently got into reading manga again and I have to ask, what sites do you use to download manga? I found a few decent torrents on bakabt but that's about it

>>55200596
I add series to mangaupdates and follow the RSS and pop into the scanalator's site whenever they post something new.

>>55200542
1. There are plenty of ways to get around paying for a website.
2. Remember that time a popular raw provider started watermarking their releases and, all those scanalator asking for donations to buy manga came to a screeching halt?
3. They are taking what they have no claim to so I can't feel bad when the same thing happens to them.

>>55200345
Direct Downloading has the same or better quality so that is irrelevant.

>>55200542

Why not just use a free forum, website or some shit? Wordpress for example.

>>55200637
In several threads over the past several days. Your ad hominem won't change that no matter how pissed you get.

>>55200693
To paraphrase: People care about the manga not the translators.

>>55200639
Read them online at Mangafox, obviously.

Make those scanlators cry.

>you mad? =))

>>55200732
>People care
>I care about the manga but I don't care about the translators

Fixed that for you.

>>55200778
translator and scanlator's namida are delicious

>>55200285
>Additionally, I question the judgment of anyone who really wants traffic from the gaiafags and shounentards who regularly visit mangafox and its ilk.
This.

>>55200732
Stop speaking for people as if everything you say is a fact, your ego is too big for someone as new as yourself.

>>55200705

But you wouldn't know this scanlation thingy if you don't first read online and see the credits pages.

Type " [manga name] read online" on google and the first things you will see are the manga reader sites.

Online readers help make the scanlators website known to casuals and new to manga.

>>55200705
They do, they just don't care.
Same for people using e-hentai.
Humans are animals following set patterns. Once they get used to something they won't change it unless:
a.) Something easier/more convenient comes around
b.) Something flashier/"cooler" comes around.

The discussion is moot anyway. People will continue going there until someone who actually owns the rights C&Ds Mangafox (seems unlikely seeing nobody has done anything by now) or scanlation groups disappear due to their own inertia (even less likely) and Mangafox is forced to live on the existing backlog they have or having to start hiring translators themselves.

Stop the machines. I am the owner of mangawox. Ask me anything.

>>55200780
I wasn't even the one that came up with it. The last thread there was an anon that pointed out that a lot of scanalators get into because they think they can get internet famous not realizing that people care about the manga not the people doing it. That is why people are fine reading manga on places like mangafox.

>>55200831
My arrogance and pride have little to do with it. Do try to stop being distracted by my radiance and focus on the matter at hand.

>>55200889
>Woxxy

Here we go.

>>55200889
How much kane you have?

Shitsen subs should pick up Nozoki Ona..

>>55200971

I hate how i have to join every single scanlator site to get my releases.
Sure, i'm willing to download my stuff from your site, but please don't make me join your forum, put in 15 (quality) posts before i can download the latest chapter of -insert manga here-
God forbid those livejournal communities where you have to join the community, await approval and either get denied or accepted depending on how the person feels. Or when they come up with additional rules before you even get accepted.

Now i don't use online readers either (asides from mangatoshokan, but that one died). I just like to have them bundled and ready for ddl. But apparently that's not allowed either

My manga aggregator puts this logo on every page.

>>55201024
Stop getting your shit from shitty scanlators, then. Good scanlators don't force you to register.

>>55200971
Because the scanalators are too focused on being glory hounds to have one centralized reader site. It is more convient to go to one large site than it is to go to several small ones.

>>55200971
They want it all handed to them on a silver platter with a spork because they can't learn to internet.. In other words, everything in one place, no matter how bad the quality is reduced, no matter who is hurt. They are the cancer that will slowly kill scanlations.

>>55200693
On Blogger for example, if you post Mediafire links in every post you make, Google will delete your blog for spam.

>>55201050
Batoto.com

>>55200872

this
scanlators should be more grateful.

>>55201039
shut the fuck up and start translating those missing chapters of SYD

The worst are the guys that put their scans up in forums that force you to comment a certain number of times to download the releases and then are shocked when they get posted to places like mangatraders. Of course people are going to download it from the easier place.

>>55201100
We can't be grateful. MangaFox is trying to migrate every user over to MangaHere and preferably to MangaRush to remove also the credits pages.

We were silent until this situation started going on. We knew the good part of it, but now we're just getting shit thrown at us.

>>55201159

>removing credit pages

Now, that's a problem.

>>55201128
HAHAHAHA... no. The scanalators are just thieves too. No one cares about boosting their ego. People just care about reading the manga in a way with the least hassle.

>>55201159
You started the war. Mangafox just retaliated. Also thanks to these threads and your bitching MangaHere and the like are getting a hell of a lot more exposure than they could have hoped for. You're being hoisted by your of petard and, you don't even realize it.

While I do understand that scanlators are butthurt that aggregators make advertising money off of their work, they need to understand that that's the consequence of operating in a black market.

Anybody who "frequents" /a/ can, I hope, take this stupidshit troll board with a grain of salt.

Or fuck it, a pound of salt.

As for OP's derp, scanners really are being shafted when "streaming" (gallery) sites put their stuff up, because they probably get a buck every time 50 people (or whatever it is) download one of their releases from a /rs/-type 1-click filesharing host.

People are supposedly "contributing" scanners' work when one of these "manga streaming" galleries wants to put their scans up. It's supposedly not the gallery's fault, it's their users or whatever.

Really it's the manga stream site owners doing it, but if the scanner thinks it's his own fans doing it, hey. I mean, the stream site gets ad revenue at the scanner's expense, so they punish the people who are supposedly putting it up for doing that.

It's simple internet bottom-feeder economics.

>>55201265
3/10

there are people that actually save the images from mangafox or mangareader to discuss them in redhawk forums. There is something wrong about that and it makes me giggle everytime I remember. I don't know if they are trolls or not (proabably not, more likely unintentional) but it's so fucking funny. The real reason is probably that they don't download the chapter, but there's some kind of irony in it. If they start watermarking stuff, think about the images in redhawk with the watermark and the streaming site.

you can check it here if you are interested
http://www.redhawkscans.com/showthread.php?1298-TWGOK-Latest-Chapter-Discussion/page78

Ugh, sometimes I wonder if it's worth it to keep going when I get lumped together with people like this all the time. Not all scanlators are like this. There are assholes among us just like among any other group of people. You just notice them because they actually have a say in providing a good you enjoy.

>>55201234
But I am obviously doing it to advertise my comic management system. This is the best viral marketing, and works wonders to attract scanlators.

I'll soon take over scanlation, and be the most popular tripfag in 4chan. The dream of all my life, basically.

>>55201377

>hurr mangafox
>hurr aggregators
Why do scanlators feel the need to bitch about this on /a/? Shouldn't you attack or appeal to the groups of people who actually use these services instead?

This is like musicians crucifying people who go to their concerts because someone in another country downloaded an mp3.

I hope the Western community doesn't turn into the Chinese translation community where you have to register, get enough rep and reply to the thread to get access to a translated piece of work. They even disable right clicking, scripts, hotlinking just to screw with you.

>>55201348

Haha. Why would he even do that?

My group actually uploads our manga to mangafox to troll me.

I read all of my manga on mangafox out of spite.

>>55201420
You forgot about the credit system which forces you to keep posting on their forums if you want to download more, and the online readers with 6+ ads (which come with videos/audio)

>>55201411

That failmanga sounds like an /a/non. An underage at that.

>>55201377
- wait, is she naked?
- click the thumbnail
- okay, it's just a bikini
- WOOHOO TAKE IT OFF, LITTLE GIRL, TAKE IT ALL OFF
- WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWOO

- YEAH!!

>>55201493
Because they use Adsense which is not reloadable without reloading the whole page, unless you want to risk an Adsense ban.

Scanlators use projectwonderful.com on my readers, because it allows reloading. Also, nicer image-only ads with asynchronous loading, and works by pageview.

Brb, I am going to buy a car with my $13 a month.

>>55198699
Hey, OP. I'm an scanlator, and I agree.

That's why I took business in my own hands, and I have either killed or forced to change a couple of groups. I also made a tutorial for you to do the same!

Here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?aqqa21ewtebc18w

If you've got the time to whine like a little bitch, you've got the time to mess with them motherfuckers. I'd do it myself, but I don't give a shit about Nozoki Ana. Dropped it in the 10s.

In a perfect world, people would come to MY blog to DOWNLOAD the manga just as I intended. However, this is not a perfect world and therefore I have to deal with things like mangafox, and people wondering what the status is on my projects when they're right fucking there on said blog.

But I accept this. I mean, sure, it'd be nice if people didn't talk about the stuff I do with THIS IMAGE IS HOSTED AT MANGAFOX.COM fixed to the bottom of a downsized version of a spread I spent hours redrawing. But at the end of the day, it's getting out to more people who're enjoying it, in whatever format, and that's all I set out to do. I find myself unable to understand why other scanlators get so damn mad about this sorta thing.

>>55201528
>online readers with 6+ ads (which come with videos/audio)
I know that feel, fuck those flash ads.

>>55201348
If I have a manga archived then sometimes it's easier to just hunt for that one page online than fire up the external. That would be stupid for anything recent, however.

You can bet your ass off that no anime fansubber likes the billions of illegal anime streaming sites with ads plastered all over them. You can also bet that the fansubbers would be very glad if these sites got shut down for good.

But even then, fansubbers don't drop or delay shit because of them. Despite what you might think about the maturity of the anime fansubbing scene, you can probably agree that the scanlation scene is way, way worse with all the shit that goes on in it (like that one scanlator which requires 50 new posts a week to their forums in order to get a private link to new releases).

Seriously, why does so many manga scanlator do shit like this?

Daiz and Woxxy in the same thread?

It's like the Gods of distribution are here.

>>55201706
>Seriously, why does so many manga scanlator do shit like this?
pic related.

Also, dude, go kick the shit out of Kusion until im@s comes out. Although, if you're the encoder and typesetter... what's left for him to do?

chix with dix

>>55201799

>>55201835
... stop what?

There is far too much personal drama in the scanlator world.

I remember when I worked with a group and the leader decided on a whim that we should start watermarking and announced it on the site, and all the other members managed to convince him that was a bad idea, and even after he agreed he said we couldn't change the watermark policy back until after about 2-3 weeks because otherwise it would make us seem 'weak and indecisive'.

Fuck.

>>55201706
>(like that one scanlator which requires 50 new posts a week to their forums in order to get a private link to new releases)


Past me a link, I wanna troll the fuck out of them

>>55201799
>manojuchiha
>uchiha

Why his retardness doesn't surprise me?

>>55201889
http://3dmangascanlations.wordpress.com/faq/

>>55201866
Related to what the guy CAPSed in your image.

>>55201899
yet, at the time, they were the fastest at releasing bakuman. It was to fight their bullshit that redhawks, muda and... the other group got together to scan bakuman.

>>55201889
Think it was Doko Demo Doa or something. Thank god I don't actually follow anything they do.

>>55201879
>For god's sake don't lump me into a fucking "scene" with the immature kiddies who think watermarking is cool.

Yeah, I won't. Some scanlators are very cool guys and who I take no issues with, but for every well-behaving scanlator there seems to be at least a bunch of these retarded howler monkeys screaming about how watermarking is absolutely essential and how they will drop shit if people don't pirate it THEIR way.

>>55201993
Also, these same Doko Demo Doa guys (or girls, I think) also plaster fuckhuge watermarks over every single goddamn page. Like, watermark the size of 1/6th of the page or so.

>>55201993
>Doko Demo Doa
Oh god those watermarks. Too bad I deleted that release where every page had a huge one.

>>55202034
according to some threads I've seen, they also have some kind of deal with mangareader to do that.

I don't get why the something something coalition hasn't killed mangareader yet. I don't give a shit about online readers (hell, I've posted about some of the manga I work for in mangafox), but mangareader actually pays scanlators to watermark (see >>55201799 ). At least the other readers aren't so obvious.

thats why i love gg, they suck, and they know it, but they don't give a fuck

they are heroes saving fansub anime, the only ones left with the old motto of fansubbing

>>55202061
HELLO WATERMARK

>>55202155
Is this on every page? Jesus Christ, how horrifying.

>>55202155
THIS MAKES SENSE, GUYS.

>>55202155
This was exactly the one I wanted, thanks anon.

>>55202155

>>55202155
post the page where the watermark covers the face of a girl who is smiling.

>>55202170
LET'S COVER THE CHARACTER'S FACE FULL WHILE WE'RE AT IT

fuck I hate this group

>>55202170
Always gets me. So hilariously bad.

Sucks for the people that actually want to follow the series.

>>55202199
And it's sad because this fucking manga is interesting but there's no raws anywhere

>>55202199
The most hilarious part: they have mangafox link in the sidebar.

>>55202238
I swear they have a vendetta against this character

It's too bad since I was slightly interested in the manga. You could immediately tell that they were all bitches.

>>55202238
>>55202199
>>55202170
Why not just get a hold of some raws and use their own translations to screw with them?

>>55202271
>>55202238

Well guys, then let's remove the marks!
Some anon said something about that...

>>55202303
Removing marks as big as those can be difficult, though.

>>55202303
>>55202299

see
>>55202238
>there's no raws anywhere

There was a dedicated thread to finding them, but no one actually could. Trust me, if I could I would.

>>55202299
>>55202303
I was planning on doing that when the thread came out, but good luck finding raws.

>>55202299
we looked for them back when chapter 1 had just been released. We wanted to apply >>55201634 to them.

But no raws anywhere. Seriously.

>>55202155
>>55202170
>>55202199
>>55202238
>>55202271

Dude, that's nothing. Wait till you see the watermarks on the last chapter of Limit (yes, they were "kind" enough to give it to the public for a few hours). Give me a minute.

>>55202330
not if you have raws, no.

If you don't have the raws, though, removing the watermarks is basically impossible without redrawing.

>>55202303
I tried

test

>>55202377

... and here we go. Feel free to laugh.

>>55202396
You should feel bad anon.

>>55202396
funny enough, it looks better than >>55202199

>>55202420
Haha oh god. They do offer the watermarkless version if you circlejerk in their forums right?

>>55202420
I don't even have a reaction image suitable enough to show how I feel right now.

>>55202420
Oh wow. That's fucking horrendous.

>>55202420
oh, you've gotta be squidding me...

>>55202420
oh god, what the fuck.

>Doko Demo Doa
Female scanlators.

>>55202420
Even the thumbnail generator thinks this is fucking stupid.

>>55202420

>>55202420
Godlike.

>>55202479
landwhales being annoying and ruining fandoms?

Who would have thought?

>>55202420
Okay, now I can only think they are trolling every reader.
Just trolling.

Seriously, no one can be this retarded.

The problem is essentially that scanlators are people who believe they will be respected and loved by all for doing this work for free.

What you're seeing when the breakdown/ragequit occurs is the moment they realize we live in a world that is mostly made up of scum, some of whom would piss on their project just for the fun of it.

>>55202333
Maybe you should try buying the manga if you're that upset over it.

Just saiyan.

>>55202420
Wow.

Words fail me.

>>55202519
>Seriously, no one can be this retarded.
But they can
See
>>55202479

So much trolling, it feels good to be a mere lurker.

Sure they are dicks

but when you register in their forum just to call out on their faggotry and provoke them, knowing there is a chance they will throw a fit and delay the project. That is just retarded

The retards who act like people are entitled to translate manga for them are even worse, their logic is there are always 100% chance that someone will pick a manga up and translate them, yeah right

You guys should be glad you're not reading yaoi manga. You can't even begin to fathom the level of paranoia that is commonplace in that fandom.

At least your shit is getting translated

>>55202834

so how is this paranoia related to certain scanlators acting like children and the children who bad mouth them?

Somebody buy me licenses for Tonnura and SYD. You can have all the advertising money. All my $13.

>Woxxy and Daiz in the same thread

OHGODWHY

We all know that you're the Daiz of the scanlation scene, Woxxy, stop shitting our board.

>Manga volume costs 500yen
>Upload it to mediafire for free
>Beg for donations

>>55202963
diaz is a fucking bro and the champion of 10bit that made it all possible

you'll show some fucking respect

GUISE HEY GUISE WHAT IF....

SCANLATORS MAKE 2 VERSIONS OF THEIR RELEASES!!!, 1 WATERMARKED FOR MANGAFOX AND ETC (they upload it themself) AND ANOTHER VERSION WITHOUT WATERMARKS FOR THEIR ONLINE READER?1

>>55202788
it's not about "act[ing] like people are entitled to translate manga for them". It's about stopping cancer from spreading.

Look at the JE example. They were releasing maria holic in password-protected rars that you could only download from their forum if you registered and made 5 posts - and said rars were forbidden to be uploaded anywhere else. So we killed them via a combination of watermark-removing and a different group releasing faster (and a couple of chapters later, dying).

The leader of JE ragequit, and all their projects were halted. Some haven't been picked up in over two years (like Gakuen Alice), but that's preferable to JE succeeding in their bullshit and influencing other groups.

>>55203035
HAHAHA
oh wait you're serious
Keeping sucking your own dick...
Daiz.

>>55203045
Mangafox would steal the unmarked one.

>>55203045
Why wouldn't mangafux just take the non-watermarked version?

>>55203054
Perfect!

Now do the same with the rest of it, then we will troll those Doko Dama Dick faggets.

>>55202963
Eh?

>>55203045
Someone downloads and uploads the watermarkless version to Mangafox...

>>55203087
Pretty sure that was sarcasm.

>>55203157
Ya know what I'm talking about, you blabber wash-mouth.

>>55203086

WOW, YOU ARE A REAL HERO TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T READ SCANLATED CHAPTERS OF MARIA HOLIC ANYMORE.

DO YOU WANT ME TO SCREEN CAP YOUR POST SO THE FUTURE GENERATION WILL KNOW OF YOUR NOBLE AND HEROIC DEED?

We should all stop releasing manga for a month. I am sure it would kill the evil sites.

>>55200476
Whatever you do, don't try to learn individual kanji one by one. That is absolutely worthless.

HOWEVER you MUST learn whole words instead (which often contain two or more kanji). Use SRS. I recommend Anki or iknow.jp. Learning to read a moderate amount of words with kanji is imperative so you don't have to stop to browse your dictionary every two bubbles. Once you get past maybe 500 kanji in 1500 or so words (if you're committed—with SRS that should take no more than half a year if you persist and train half an hour every day) you'll be able to read most manga WITHOUT furigana (and a lot of the good stuff comes without it) fairly fluently, only having to check back to a dictionary once or twice a chapter. At this point other parts of your language comprehension will develop rapidly as you are able to absorb large volumes of text.

Unfortunately there's no way around the grind. You're going to have to spend many utterly boring nights just cramming this stuff into your head. Having done that myself I think it's worth it; I can (and do) order manga from Japan that nobody's bothered to scanlate and I can freely enjoy it while also getting better with the language.

this is why i like when anon scanlates chapters, it gets done quickly and without drama.

>>55203342
You can count the amount of groups buying tankoban on one hand.

The donations are such total bullshit, as are the private forums and all the other faggotry in it.

>>55203342
Because they are not techies.

Still, going too cheap gets you closed down due to TOS. I usually suggest Linode $20 plan for having a stable site plus the $5 Virpus plan for the FoOlSlide load balancer.

Slowly scanlators are migrating to my same setup. $25 a month for two servers and summing up 1.2tb of bandwidth. It's crazy good.

>>55203193

There is another lesson to be learn here

You learn to genuflect, and think about all those other people who are also going to be affected by it.

>>55203045

This could be fun. Make huge watermarks and put them all over everything, and make sure they get up there first, maybe even before the unmarked ones are released.

At the very least it'll piss off mungufux users/admins.

>>55203339
I already know the nan, human, big, day and month kanjis.

Fuck yeah.

Whichever butthurt scanlater mod that deleted my post about donations, fuck you.

>>55203418
and wrong, and then the raws disappear because they get tossed and nobody re-ups them, whereas people will continually re-up the (incorrect) translation (or blatant troll or rewrite)

>>55203418
And isn't consistent. That's the big problem with /a/ efforts.

>>55203545

http://archive.easymodo.net/a/thread/46164986#p46165712

still relevant.

>>55203545
does the phrase "fuck donate4chan" mean anything to you?

>>55203517

Water marks are hardly an issue unless you are a whiny faggot.

Chiming in because this shit is retarded.

As a translator/scanlator, I don't care who the fuck uploads my shit anywhere, as long as they don't edit off the "translated by translator-fag" on it. I don't care if Mangafox kiddies don't know who's translating. There are plenty of people who come by my blog to say thanks. And that's fine.

I don't understand why groups get so butthurt when kiddies think "mangafox" is translating it, or when their site doesn't get many pageviews. And I don't understand why they get so angry when someone tells them their work is bad. Sure, I might get a bit annoyed, but I'm not gonna delay a release or post a big angry post about how I should "get more respect".

polite sage for non-contribution

>>55203640
Can't see images in archive, bro.
Post it yourself.