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Original (2003) FMA series: Masterpiece, shounenshit or babby's first grimdark? !!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)05:54 No.55189608

Original (2003) FMA series: Masterpiece or babby's first grimdark?

What do you think? The music was pretty good, so let's leave that aside.

Theme-wise, was it good? The brothers ultimately ended up with less than they had at the beginning - Ed at the other side of the Gate, Al gets his body back but years of memories erased.

Character-wise, how was it? At the beginning Ed was an arrogant fool, and the end Ed was still an arrogant fool. Al was somewhat of a weird character, I think. Especially that episode where he ran away questioning his own existence because some crazy murderer told him so.

The side characters, I think, had more interesting personalities than the main characters. Hughes and Kimblee, for example, were people who really believed in what they were doing. It's easy to understand these characters and their actions are at least somewhat consistent.

What do you think?

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)05:55 No.55189620 Sorry, the question is: Is the Original FMA series a masterpiece, shounenshit or babby's first grimdark?

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)05:57 No.55189674 Wrath was an annoying brat though. And King Bradley wasn't given much of a personality.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)05:58 No.55189697 >>55189674 Not surprising for Bradley... he's a homunculus. An old&wise one, too.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)05:58 No.55189711 Pretty good first half, mediocre toward the middle, shit at the end. The side characters were much less interesting than Brotherhood, Ed & Al were never really rewarded for their journey and didn't learn much.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)05:59 No.55189715 I liked how the 7 Sins were the result of actual sins committed by various Alchemists, not just spawns of a mysterious entity.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)05:59 No.55189725 >>55189697 If he was so old and wise how did he get killed so easily?

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)05:59 No.55189732 File1317117583.jpg-(61 KB, 579x329, 1310240449882.jpg) This is now an orang utan thread.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)06:00 No.55189750 It was my first anime, so I respect it for getting me into anime in the first place. But in all honesty, music aside of the original, FMA brotherhood is better.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)06:01 No.55189756 >>55189725 mustang is bad as fuck

>>	ThatFuckingAirlinePilot !!ILFj+iqcCKp 09/27/11(Tue)06:02 No.55189778 File1317117726.jpg-(117 KB, 960x473, 1316120894790.jpg) >>55189756

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)06:03 No.55189796

>>55189711
>Ed & Al were never really rewarded for their journey

I think that's the point. They finally got the punishment they deserved for disregarding the warnings.

>never learned much

They learned that the Law of Equivalent Exchange was false from Dante, and a lot of other harsh truths along the way.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)06:05 No.55189832 >>55189715 Not only that, but the homunculi exhibit the sins themselves.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)06:06 No.55189855 Now that I look back to it, casting Wrath as the baby of Izumi seems to be a bit weird. I mean Izumi didn't resurrect her baby out of Wrath, did she? She must have done it out of love/sorrow, right?

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)06:07 No.55189869

It wasn't a masterpiece by any means. I enjoyed it, partly because it was one of the first anime I have ever seen, and partly because it is a genuinely good show. But the manga version, and of course Brotherhood is infinitely better, and after watching them, the flaws of the Original 2003 version are even more obvious.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)06:07 No.55189879 Everything was better in S2. Animation, music, openings, story. The original was so fucked up, especially the ending where they made a messiah of that stupid girl.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)06:08 No.55189908 None. Just good shounen. But brotherhood's probably better.

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)06:09 No.55189912

>>55189715
I did too.

Both versions had their pros and cons, I guess. Brotherhood was more "action-packed" but also more comedy centered. This first series was the opposite, and advanced slowly.

I liked Father better than Dante, though. Bradley as Pride made more sense to me, strangely enough. Kid wrath was pretty annoying, like others have said.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)06:10 No.55189945 >>55189879 >especially the ending where they made a messiah of that stupid girl. Yes I agree that making Rose (a rape victim?) into a messiah doesn't make any sense. She never really re-appeared in Brotherhood though did she?

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)06:11 No.55189974 >>55189878 Reported for discussing anime on an imageboard dedicated to discussing anime, sure. I know who the autist here and it isn't OP. I hope you took the hint, but maybe I'm expecting too much from you.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)06:12 No.55189982 >>55189912 >Kid wrath was pretty annoying, like others have said. I think that might be the point. They made Wrath a kid to better show what wrath is really like - throwing temper tantrums.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)06:15 No.55190037 >>55189855 I guess you can say that she did it with hatred toward the nature/truth for taking away her baby. Yeah, that's a stretch, I know.

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)06:21 No.55190118

>>55190037

Possibly, but it seems more likely that she resurrected her baby out of the same reason that Ed and Al resurrected their parents - love.

Now that I think about it, sloth seems kind of a strange reason. I mean were Ed and Al so lazy as to go to the lengths of resurrecting their mother to avoid having to work for a living?

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)06:24 No.55190176 >>55190118 >Ed and Al so lazy as to go to the lengths of resurrecting their mother to avoid having to work for a living Oh...LOL! Yeah that really didn't fit.

junin !KBLcdWJKRA 09/27/11(Tue)06:32 No.55190319

op did a good summary but i only seen the first season and got scared off by the manga. while fun i just didn't enjoy the humor and shit, took me out of it. brother seems to be based off of the manga which meant more of that weird humor. thought the director did alright. maybe i need to read the manga some more. also agree that main characters were annoying, side characters were annoying, greed died too fucking early, and hughes deserve to die by that trap envy and all of you agree.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)06:35 No.55190376 >>55190319 Yeah the humour in FMA was done really badly (anime humour in general is atrocious). I found the side characters like Kimblee alright though.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)06:36 No.55190414 really just babby's first decent shounen shit got too moody for me though, i didn't like it much

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)06:38 No.55190456 >>55190414 >too moody You mean Ed acting like a faggot and being all emotional over death and sacrifice etc? Then I agree.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)06:46 No.55190619 >>55189750 Brotherhood is just shounenshit, so by saying that Brotherhood is better, you're saying that the original FMA is even worse than shounenshit.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)06:49 No.55190695 Honestly the only thing I had going for the original FMA is that the ending was somewhat tragic and not just a generic "beat the bad guy" ending where they win everything.

>>	junin !KBLcdWJKRA 09/27/11(Tue)06:52 No.55190729 >>55190376 I like Mustang and Hawkeye, and the homunculus crew. They should've showed them more. is there an anime where humor is done right, seriously. i know it's personal taste but goddamn!

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)06:52 No.55190731 >>55190619 >Brotherhood is just shounenshit This literally means nothing. Brotherhood was good, original was bad.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)06:55 No.55190795 It did many things better but suffers a lot from Mizushima's inability to wrap things up nicely. However, it averts many shounen themes and isn't as grimdark as /a/ says so I'll just call it "decent".

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)07:02 No.55190918 >Masterpiece, shounenshit or babby's first grimdark? You're not giving us good choices here. It was very good, but not good enough to be labeled a masterpiece.

junin !KBLcdWJKRA 09/27/11(Tue)07:05 No.55190974

>>55190731
I don't really think the original was bad, liked it better than the manga. different feel to me. sometimes it's better when they don't follow the manga despite the ending. See berserk. people complain that the anime ended badly, but if it kept going people would've been disappointed in it like they are with this current well drawn but kinda shit manga arc.

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)07:08 No.55191036

>>55190795

I'll agree that it avoids many shounenshit tropes and isn't as grimdark as, say, Elfen Lied or Berzerk, but it's still pretty grimdark. I mean, the entire character of Rose is basically there to be raped. Ed gets killed, Mustang gets stabbed in the chest, Bradley strangles his own son, etc.

It's not your typical shounen anime. I think the ending was okay, it could have been left where Ed was killed, it would have made more sense in my opinion. But then there was the gate and so on. They had to explain what was on the other side of the gate so what they did was somewhat understandable.

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)07:12 No.55191123

>>55190974

The anime ending is just as bad as the manga. The arc they chose was a really bad one, but it would have been worse if they put the Skull Knight in - a deus ex machina.

The arcs after Tower of Conviction are just horrible though, at least they didn't pick the troll arc

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)07:21 No.55191316 I liked the first one. I really liked the ending too. I like those bittersweet endings. I didn't like the antagonist in Conqueror of Shamballah but I did like the ending to that. How those brothers lost their entire world but got to keep each other.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)07:23 No.55191363 >>55191316 Yes I agree, the bittersweet ending fit the dark mood of this series perfectly.

junin !KBLcdWJKRA 09/27/11(Tue)07:24 No.55191374

>>55191123
yeah ending is bad, but parts leading up to it were golden. I'm one of the few who probably didn't mind the ending, it was depressing and different to me at the time. no point now, I heard the creator once said he wanted to do around 100 volumes so we're never going to see the end of it.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)07:26 No.55191410 How comes Hughes died after being shot just once? You can't die from blood loss that quickly. And he wasn't shot in the head.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)07:33 No.55191567 Hey, remember when Ed and Al said that they weren't going to investigate any further about the philosopher's stone and the homunculi? That was a lie, to keep their guards safe. But they saw through it. So...yeah. That failed.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)07:47 No.55191904 How comes Hughes never told Roy that he was investigating Lab 5 and the homunculi? Also, going out on your own against homunculi seems kind of stupid.

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)08:18 No.55192543

My vote is for babby's first grimdark, but not necessarily a bad thing. I've never seen Brotherhood, because I honestly wasn't too crazy about FMA as a concept. That said, the original anime was pretty decent, I'd say. You can't really call it shonenshit because it's really nothing like your average shonen.

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)08:23 No.55192636

I thought the ending was better in the first just because it wasnt generic feel good lets kill godbullshit

The original anime also i feel has better plot twists and everything just seems less easy to predict

However Brotherhood does a better job of characterizing the homunculi (greed especially)

brotherhood also benefits from being longer by a few episodes

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)08:31 No.55192761 >Original (2003) FMA series >grimdark wat

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)08:43 No.55192992
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>Original (2003) FMA series: Masterpiece or babby's first grimdark?

Its not a Masterpiece but it WAS a very good Anime. I liked the path it went down much more than the Manga did and its one of the few(Or if only?) good examples of an Anime taking its own path from the source material.

...Unlike,y'know the monstrosity in my picture here. This thing is terrible.

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)08:59 No.55193345

Brotherhood is more popular than the original because of the same reasons that the big three are popular. It has way an excessive amount of characters with lots of tangent battles going everywhere. Lots of characters to like at the expense of a the plot and flow.

The original FMA is linear and didn't weigh itself down with too many characters. The Elric Brothers were involved in every event that happened. Also, Dante was a much more fleshed out and human villain than Father, who is essentially pure evil. It is impossible to relate to him, and that makes him a bad villain.

Brotherhood is classic shonen crap and the original was a well pieced together work of art. Being done by the new BONES doesn't help either.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)09:03 No.55193435 I've always found the "Ed is a shorty" joke really forced and unfunny

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)09:08 No.55193512

Ed started early. He killed his grandparents when he was just 15. Ed explained this by saying he just wanted to know what it was like to kill them. That got him shipped off to a state mental hospital for 5 years. Then they had to let him go -- as is noted in the video above, he was returned to his ever-lovin' momma. Whom he hated with a rage-filled passion few of us can fathom. Ed didn't kill mom right away, though. First he practiced on co-eds in Santa Cruz, CA, where he lived at the time. Eddie generally tended to stab his high school and college-age female victims before taking them to the house he shared with his mom, where he might remove the girls' heads and take a few pics to commemorate the moment. Necrophilia and cannibalism were also part of the package. Ed killed at least six girls this way before he worked his way up to mom. Ed killed his own mother with a claw hammer, removed the head from her corpse, had sex with the headless body, then he tried to shove his mom's voice box down the garbage disposal. His final act was to take out his mother's best friend, who pretty much received the same treatment. Fortunately for the hitchhiking college girls of Santa Cruz, Ed eventually turned himself in. Tidbits: Ed is a very smart man, he's well-spoken, even eloquent. He is also unusually forthcoming for a serial killer. Ed's not above messing with people still, though -- he once told profiler John Douglas that he could twist Douglas's head off and leave it on an interview room table before the guards even made it to the door. Apparently, that was Ed's way of joshing around with the lawman.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)09:41 No.55194148 Not to mention Ed killed his own brother and turned him into an empty suit of armor

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)09:56 No.55194465 All the villains in FMA are pretty badly written, actually.

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)10:26 No.55195167

>The 2003 series had a better characterization of the Homunculi and made them have a closer meaning to the cast, due to their being the product of a failed Human Transmutation
>Brotherhood was better with developing the main cast, especially Scar
>At the same time, Brotherhood made Scar seem less redeemable and less of a MOTHERFUCKIN' PALADIN, by the way they had the killing of Winry's parents play out
>Also, Kimblee is fucking great in Brotherhood
>The ending of Brotherhood was more in line with the tone of the series, which was less grimdark and bittersweet, while the ending of the 2003 series was more in line with the dark, bittersweet feel of the series, and thus the bittersweet ending
>Both are very good, but it all comes down to whether you prefer a darker tone with better developed villains, or a lighter-but-still-mostly-mature tone with a happy ending

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)10:28 No.55195211 People actually liked Square Enix: The Anime?

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)10:31 No.55195283

I don't know that I'd call it any of the three things you listed, OP, but I do remember enjoying it quite a bit. It was one of the first series I actually followed week-to-week as it was airing, and it didn't really let me down until the last three or so episodes. Up until that point, I'd thought it might be headed somewhere more interesting than, "war is bad, mmkay?"

I was also disappointed with the resolution to Lust's subplot -- she was my favorite supporting character. A large part of why I never read the manga/watched Brotherhood is that she gets killed off so early on... but at least getting incinerated by Roy is a better way to go than jobbing to fucking emo-kid Wrath.

But even taking that stuff into account, I enjoyed it quite a bit. Weak ending aside, it was solid.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)10:42 No.55195531 >>55195283 What themes were explored in the anime? What are the characters motivations?

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)11:40 No.55196928 When Al got the philosophical stone, why didn't he use it to bring back his mother as well?

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)11:42 No.55196986 Entry-level shounenshit

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)11:43 No.55197004 >>55196986 weren't you the retard that didn't get SnW?

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)11:45 No.55197054 >>55196986 >entry level trolling Go check out this faggot's MAL and laugh /a/nons http://myanimelist.net/profile/AAAtierTripfag

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)11:52 No.55197192 File1317138744.jpg-(114 KB, 1280x720, 1316719085336.jpg) >>55197054 >http://myanimelist.net/profile/AAAtierTripfag

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)12:00 No.55197335 >>55197054 >>55197192 Your argument?

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)12:01 No.55197348 >>55197004 SnW is K-On in the military. Fucking appeasement bullshit.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:08 No.55197504 >>55197335 you dropped Cowboy Bebop and Evangelion, but not Naruto it speaks for itself

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)12:11 No.55197565 >>55197504 I completed the first season of Naruto before I had good taste. Next argument?

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:12 No.55197582

>>55197348
>apeasment

laughinginigomontoya.jpg

I am so glad that you will never be a member of the military

aren't you also the faggot who was like 'shinji's distrust of people is stupid because having more friends always makes you stronger derp.' wow, you cannot even into basic psychology

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)12:13 No.55197602 >>55197582 Your argument is?

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:13 No.55197617 Like most "babby's first"s, it's actually a very good show but it also demonstrates an undeveloped palette. Consider it a classic and well executed dish at a restaurant that is has been done to death but is always a safe bet if nothing else looks appetising.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:16 No.55197672 >>55197617 fma is the grilled cheese sandwich of anime?

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:17 No.55197701 >>55197672 Well quite.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:18 No.55197729 Pretty good. Anime original ending was kind of fucked up though.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:19 No.55197743 >>55197724 You have yet to address what he was actually saying.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:21 No.55197797 If I can save one thing from the original FMA series, is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_ddTqnOVhU

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:22 No.55197836 >>55197743 Oh, and you drop your trip when it's convenient to pretend that actually someones agrees with you or tries to defend you (which never happens to shitposting tripfags) ! Samefaging with a trip is a bonus.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:24 No.55197876 >>55197836 Why are you so rectum ruptured?

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:26 No.55197927 >>55197876 Ignore him, he's just trying to troll BJiY.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:27 No.55197942 >>55197876 >why are you so rectum rupured EPICWIN EPIC WIN XD

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:29 No.55197989 >>55197937 But do you actually have a point to make in this discussion? Do you actually have a valid criticism of me? No, you don't.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:31 No.55198053 >>55197989 it's okay, I think you're cool BJ.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:31 No.55198054 >>55197989 yes we do retard. you're an uncultured shitposter.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)12:33 No.55198094 >>55197989 I don't think he has a valid criticism of anyone in this thread, no.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:35 No.55198146 >>55198053 BJ sucks a huge ass though

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:36 No.55198167 >>55198124 >implying he did that >implying you aren't talking to several people >implying that makes him wrong in this discussion >implying that fallacious reasoning makes you someone worth talking to >implying this exchange isn't over

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:38 No.55198226 >>55198143 >60% !!BJ posts more like 93,5 % and climbing

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)12:43 No.55198360

>>55198124
>Worst tripfag that saw 20 shows but shit posts and trolls 24/7, uses old stale pasta and autism images

And am I supposed to conclude from this nonsense?

>drop your trip when it's convenient to pretend that actually someones agrees with you or tries to defend you (which never happens to shitposting tripfags) !

How is this relevant to anything? You can't even prove that I drop my trip (which I never do).

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:45 No.55198419 >>55198360 LOLZ I GET SERS :D_@#

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:45 No.55198438

>>55198124
>Seen 20 shows
prove it.

>shitposts and trolls
he made valid points, you failed to answer them other than to call him a shitposter and a troll.

>posts autism images
lots of people do that. usually when responding to a moron like you.

>that entire post
no factual data regarding !!BJiY's reliability as a participant in the debate he endeavoured to start.

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)12:52 No.55198613

>>55198511
>The nonsense part is that you are giant faggot watching anime for 2 months yet 'runing your mouth' like you saw everything ever made in japan spouting 'this is shit' 'that is shit' 'all is the same shit'

Not really. What I'm saying is the truth, and you just can't handle it.

If you check out my MAL profile it says I've seen 75 anime series, lol.

>You were caught many times samefag with a trip. Simple easymodo tripcode filter check can show that.

Really? Show us how it's done.

>>55198513

Might wanna fix that link, it's broken.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)12:59 No.55198808 >>55198513 You seem a little colon-crucified to me pal.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:01 No.55198867 >>55198613 >What I'm saying is the truth, and you just can't handle it. >YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH !!!! I saw that movie, Jack Nicholson sucks.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:03 No.55198927 >>55198834 I dropped my trip but didn't post after dropping it. And what is wrong with samefagging with a trip?

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:03 No.55198935 >>55198613 >Might wanna fix that link, it's broken. It's not broken faggot. just paste it in after http://archive.easymodo.net If you weren't a newfag you would already know that faggot.

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:08 No.55199062

>>55198927
>And what is wrong with samefagging with a trip?
Are you really going to play stupid faggot ?
There is a shitload of your threads started with a trip and replied with dropped trip (something you sometimes forget and then 'you are great op', 'i agree with you op', 'yes it's shit op' still with your trip happens) and you are a fucking LIAR for >that I drop my trip (which I never do).

GTFO FAGGOT YOU ARE NOT WELCOMED HERE !

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:08 No.55199063 >>55198935 Sphincter-annihilated.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:09 No.55199097 >>55199063 Stop it triple faggot you are not fooling anyone, it's only two people left in this thread and your samefaging is OBVIOUS !

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:10 No.55199129

>>55199062
>There is a shitload of your threads started with a trip and replied with dropped trip (something you sometimes forget and then 'you are great op', 'i agree with you op', 'yes it's shit op' still with your trip happens)

Are you going to prove that or not? If not then I've won this argument.

>and you are a fucking LIAR for >that I drop my trip (which I never do).

Yes, I never post without my trip. What now?

>>	Kevin-kun !!jXa1xyIyNUh 09/27/11(Tue)13:10 No.55199137 File1317143449.png-(1.51 MB, 1918x1080, FMA.png) FMA < FMA: Brotherhood. Sorry, it was just better in everyway.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:11 No.55199148 >>55198952 I doubt most people here have even seen 50 shows, they're just trolling by saying they've seen 500 shows.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:12 No.55199171 >>55199148 I'm reading 50. I've watched about 25 though.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:12 No.55199175 >!!BJiYgff8zf2 >Shit poster >Troll >Liar >Samefag >Newfag >13 years old

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:14 No.55199237 >>55199148 >they're just trolling by saying they've seen 500 shows. NEWFAG 390+ (watching for 13+ years already) and my stomach turns whenever i see you shit up this board. Go away fag.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:15 No.55199266 >>55199148 Except those of us who are 38 this year and have been watching anime since the 80s. faggot.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:20 No.55199372 >>55199266 Yeah and I'm 83 and I have been watching anime since the 1950s. I can do it too.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:21 No.55199408 >>55199355 I still think they should implement a forced ID. Then I could prove to you that I don't drop my trip.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:22 No.55199449 >>55199408 Yeah right. >Inb4 half a million people says how stupid he is, when he's obviously doing it on purpose.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:23 No.55199463 >>55199321 Brotherhood is Soul Eater-level shounenshit. Just because it has good animation doesn't mean it's good.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:24 No.55199513 >>55199463 What's so good about the original then?

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Yeah and I'm 83 and I have been watching anime since the 1950s.

I can do it too.

>> Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:21 No.55199408
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I still think they should implement a forced ID. Then I could prove to you that I don't drop my trip.

>> Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:22 No.55199449
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Yeah right.
>Inb4 half a million people says how stupid he is, when he's obviously doing it on purpose.

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>>55199463 !!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:20 No.55199372
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Yeah and I'm 83 and I have been watching anime since the 1950s.

I can do it too.

>> Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:21 No.55199408
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I still think they should implement a forced ID. Then I could prove to you that I don't drop my trip.

>> Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:22 No.55199449
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Yeah right.
>Inb4 half a million people says how stupid he is, when he's obviously doing it on purpose.

>> !!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:23 No.55199463
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>> Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:21 No.55199408
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I still think they should implement a forced ID. Then I could prove to you that I don't drop my trip.

>> Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:22 No.55199449
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Yeah right.
>Inb4 half a million people says how stupid he is, when he's obviously doing it on purpose.

>> !!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:23 No.55199463
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>>55199463 !!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:20 No.55199372
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Yeah and I'm 83 and I have been watching anime since the 1950s.

I can do it too.

>> Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:21 No.55199408
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I still think they should implement a forced ID. Then I could prove to you that I don't

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:26 No.55199572 >>55199520 >>55199537 Asspained much?

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:28 No.55199596 >>55199513 That's what I'm trying to find out. If it's really a masterpiece or just shounenshit

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:28 No.55199614

!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)06:03 No.55189796
>>55189711
>Ed & Al were never really rewarded for their journey

I think that's the point. They finally got the punishment they deserved for disregarding the warnings.

>never learned much

They learned that the Law of Equivalent Exchange was false from Dante, and a lot of other harsh truths along the way.

>> !!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)06:05 No.55189832
>>55189715

Not only that, but the homunculi exhibit the sins themselves.

>> !!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)06:06 No.55189855
Now that I look back to it, casting Wrath as the baby of Izumi seems to be a bit weird.

I mean Izumi didn't resurrect her baby out of Wrath, did she? She must have done it out of love/sorrow, right?

>> Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)06:07 No.55189869
It wasn't a masterpiece by any means. I enjoyed it, partly because it was one of the first anime I have ever seen, and partly because it is a genuinely good show. But the manga version, and of course Brotherhood is infinitely better, and after watching them, the flaws of the Original 2003 version are even more obvious.

>> Anonymous (SAGE) 09/27/11(Tue)06:07 No.55189878
your autism knows no bounds. Reported.

>> Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)06:07 No.55189879
Everything was better in S2. Animation, music, openings, story. The original was so fucked up, especially the ending where they made a messiah of that stupid girl.

>> Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)06:08 No.55189908
None.

Just good shounen. But brotherhood's probably better.

>> Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)06:09 No.55189912
>>55189715
I did too.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:28 No.55199621 >>55199575 So you agree with me? Why do you needless hide your opinions?

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:29 No.55199648 >>55199572 >talking to yourself i seriously hope you guys don't do this

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:29 No.55199651 >>55199596 It's In the middle

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:30 No.55199658 >>55199614 > >> 55189878 >> 55189879 >samefag Hey, wait a minute...

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:31 No.55199686 >>55199651 I don't believe in "in the middle". It's one of those binary things - God either exists or he doesn't. An anime is either good or it isn't. There's no middle.

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:31 No.55199687

Well, well, well, what have we here? Another faggot neckbeard (most likely yuro) shitting up the place with his autistic faggotry. You picked the wrong night to fuck around, asshole. I've just texted the /a/ mod (we're friends irl) about this thread, so he'll be here shortly to deal with the matter, and most likely hand out some sorely needed bans. I'm also going to report and sage the thread (for safe measure), as well as alert the other moderators in the 4chan irc channel. And just in case you wanna try and pull a fast one, I'm screenshotting *the entire thread for additional proof* and e-mailing moot about the matter personally. i'm tired of you stupid fucking dick sniffers pressing out whatever lolrandom faggot shit you want on the fucking anime board. It's time for you assholes to get a reality check, because this shit won't fly for much longer. Prepare your anus, you 500 pound piles of shit. Your days are *fucking numbered*.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:32 No.55199714 >>55199686 Well, how high is your "Master Piece" then?

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:32 No.55199722

>>55199596
>That's what I'm trying to find out. If it's really a masterpiece or just shounenshit
This is ONE of you flaws faggot. Everything you see is either MASTERPIECE AND GREATEST CREATION OF HUMANITY or SHITSHITSHITSHIT SHITIER THAN SHITIEST SHIT. Grow up.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:32 No.55199724 >>55199682 I don't mind the reactions, sometimes they help bump my thread too. Now obviously I would prefer actual discussion than mindless insults, but sometimes that's too much to ask for.

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:32 No.55199728

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>>	Argumentative Anonymous !!HkNjX9NFPG1 09/27/11(Tue)13:33 No.55199765 >>55199724 Well hey, at least I can provide an argument at times.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:33 No.55199766 >>55199714 10/10 See http://myanimelist.net/animelist/AAAtierTripfag I only have 2 shows as masterpieces i.e 10/10. The rest are not masterpieces i.e 1/10.

>>	Kevin-kun !!jXa1xyIyNUh 09/27/11(Tue)13:34 No.55199799 File1317144864.png-(374 KB, 450x653, MMT.png) >>55199687

>>	Argumentative Anonymous !!HkNjX9NFPG1 09/27/11(Tue)13:36 No.55199847 >>55199766 Mm'kay then. Well, I will present what I find "Good" about the FMA Manga, and brotherhood. First off, The ideas were generally, original. It had some nice characters, Somewhat consistent lore And some nice(?) battles.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:38 No.55199901 >>55199842 I agree completely and i am prepared to back my statement with 20 Euro if !!BJ uses that money to kill himself ! (Would have offered much much more but many figures came this month and i am starving now.)

Kevin-kun !!jXa1xyIyNUh 09/27/11(Tue)13:45 No.55200089
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>decide to sign up to myanimelist anyway to keep track of my anime.
>check email for the first time in weeks.
>find out I was invited to try TOR.
>HOLYSHIT NOW I CAN TRY THIS PEICE OF SHIT BEFORE I BREAK DOWN AND BUY IT!

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:45 No.55200096

>>55199962
>If he kills himself, he won't have a chance to watch more chinese cartoons and potentially form an opinion more akin to yours
I don't want all people to have same opinion. But if you check his 3800+ posts (with trip) on easymodo good 90% of them are: SHIT SHIT PASTA SHIT TROLLING SHIT SHIT MORE PASTA etc.
No one would miss such FAGGOT !
>If he kills himself, you don't conquer his spirit, you simply remove it from /a/. That somehow just isn't as satisfying.
I don't want to break his will either, just want him to shut up because when i occasionally stumble upon his posts even my vomit wants to vomit.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:47 No.55200138 >getting an actual TOR invite instead of a piece of shit 3-day marketing hype invite

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)13:48 No.55200180
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>>55200089
No kevin-kun. It's not worth it. I had beta for a month. Hated it. It was awful. Also,

>A man who stood when every said to sit down
>A man who brought a galaxy to its knees
>A man who survived to the brink of death and a shattered mind
>A man who saved the republic
>A man who was described as the very heart of the force.

>kill him
>steal his pants

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:52 No.55200307

>>55199765
Thank you, I can appreciate that.
>>55199829
Ah the SnW thread. Yes, I wrote a review about it on MAL you can read it if you're interested in that. But on the subject of war and history, I am quite interested in those, so I wouldn't mind a discussion anytime.
>>55199847
>First off, The ideas were generally, original.

Well, that may or may not be a good thing.

>It had some nice characters

This is a point I have a problem with. Are the characters good or not? We should actually have a look through the episodes to find out. In episodes 1-2, we see Ed fighting a priest for apparently no reason other than that he's a phony. Is this really a good character?

>Somewhat consistent lore

Not sure about this either. I mean the one thing that can be considered lore is the Law of Equivalent Exchange, which is actually pretty vague if you think about it "something of equal value must be lost" who determines what value something has? It's subjective.

>And some nice(?) battles.

That I can agree with, but shounen battles tend to have a lot of talking during fighting and some other elements which I find rather unrealistic and detracts from the experience.

Kevin-kun !!jXa1xyIyNUh 09/27/11(Tue)13:52 No.55200318
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Haha. I'm actually more happy to get it to make my friends jelly and to dissuade myself from buying it. If I can prove to myself that this game will suck hardcore, I can convince myself to not buy it and watch anime instead.

I always knew this game was going to suck from just the videos and EA, but everyone was defending it horribly. Now I can have PROOF.

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)13:53 No.55200341 >>55200307 Sorry I am talking about the original 2003 anime not the Brotherhood anime.

Argumentative Anonymous !!HkNjX9NFPG1 09/27/11(Tue)13:56 No.55200419

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>Well, that may or may not be a good thing.
Originality, In my mind is great.
>This is a point I have a problem with. Are the characters good or not? We should actually have a look through the episodes to find out. In episodes 1-2, we see Ed fighting a priest for apparently no reason other than that he's a phony. Is this really a good character?
Ed fought the phony priest because he promised to give Rose back her boyfriend, and since he knew about the Equivalent law stuff, he wanted to go and find out If he really was a messiah, or not, and If he wasn't screw his shit up.
>Not sure about this either. I mean the one thing that can be considered lore is the Law of Equivalent Exchange, which is actually pretty vague if you think about it "something of equal value must be lost" who determines what value something has? It's subjective.
The "Thing" that determines what value has, is the Outline, the boy near the door, the person who has Ed's arm and Leg at some points, you know who I'm talking about.
>That I can agree with, but shounen battles tend to have a lot of talking during fighting and some other elements which I find rather unrealistic and detracts from the experience.
I do agree, shonen battles generally are not so realistic.

>>	Argumentative Anonymous !!HkNjX9NFPG1 09/27/11(Tue)13:58 No.55200477 >>55200341 I don't mind, I can go with either. Just take into consideration I don't like the Original as much as the Manga/Brotherhood.

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)14:08 No.55200714

>>55200419
>Ed fought the phony priest because he promised to give Rose back her boyfriend

Why would you do something like that? It doesn't make sense.

>and since he knew about the Equivalent law stuff, he wanted to go and find out If he really was a messiah, or not

Okay, fair enough. They found that out easily. But why publically challenge the priest? It's as if they want to make a big ruckus and destabilize the town of Liore.

>and If he wasn't screw his shit up.

Why would they do this? It doesn't benefit anyone. It seems like Ed only did it for his ego.

>The "Thing" that determines what value has, is the Outline, the boy near the door, the person who has Ed's arm and Leg at some points, you know who I'm talking about.

Yes but that is kind of an asspull. Also not present in the 2003 anime, thankfully.

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)14:13 No.55200846

>>55200714
>Why would you do something like that? It doesn't make sense.
Because, he knew that If he was able to do such a thing, He'd be able to get his arm and leg back, and If he wasn't able to, then the "Boyfriend" Rose saw before (The Chimera) was fake, and It's actually against the law to use human transmutation anywho.
>Okay, fair enough. They found that out easily. But why publically challenge the priest? It's as if they want to make a big ruckus and destabilize the town of Liore.
Well, It actually got alot better afterwards, not to mention lots of people have been promised their loved ones back.
>Why would they do this? It doesn't benefit anyone. It seems like Ed only did it for his ego.
Well, you're not going to start something off by doing nothing.
>Yes but that is kind of an asspull. Also not present in the 2003 anime, thankfully.
It isn't an asspull really, It's the "Gate" technically.
Anywho, since It's not in it, I've got no explanation for how people are judged.

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)14:19 No.55201037

>>55200846
>Because, he knew that If he was able to do such a thing, He'd be able to get his arm and leg back, and If he wasn't able to, then the "Boyfriend" Rose saw before (The Chimera) was fake, and It's actually against the law to use human transmutation anywho.

So he wanted to find out if the human transmutation was for real or not. Why would he promise human transmutation if he knows that it's not possible, or is at least unsure of whether it's possible or not?

And why does he want to help Rose that badly anyway? What's in it for him?

>Well, It actually got alot better afterwards

No, actually it got worse. Envy immediately steps in as the new priest and everything goes back to as it was before.

Then Rose somehow becomes a messiah after being raped? I don't understand.

>not to mention lots of people have been promised their loved ones back.

How is that a good thing?

>Well, you're not going to start something off by doing nothing.

He basically destabilized the entire town of Liore. I don't see that as a good thing.

>Anywho, since It's not in it, I've got no explanation for how people are judged.

Clearly people are judged on the arbitrary whims of some random kid sitting in a gate.

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)14:25 No.55201189

>>55201037
>So he wanted to find out if the human transmutation was for real or not. Why would he promise human transmutation if he knows that it's not possible, or is at least unsure of whether it's possible or not?
Human transmutation is real, but you need to Sacrifice human life, or use the philosopher's stone and surprisingly enough, there was a RED GEM, on the guy's ring.
And he knows the pain of blahblahblah relative coming back to live, hope and despair general shonen philosophy.
>No, actually it got worse. Envy immediately steps in as the new priest and everything goes back to as it was before.
Well this is why I didn't want to talk about the Original anime, I know just about jackshit of it.
>How is that a good thing?
It isn't a good thing, He's showing the truth to the people, and obvious despair and whatnot.
>He basically destabilized the entire town of Liore. I don't see that as a good thing.
I meant with the actual anime/manga you aren't going to start a manga off successfully with no battles or anything else.
>Clearly people are judged on the arbitrary whims of some random kid sitting in a gate.
Yep, but he isn't exactly a kid, and that gate is rather important.
Not to mention, If you have used the gate once already, you can use It again, and choose what to lose.

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)14:29 No.55201309

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>Human transmutation is real, but you need to Sacrifice human life, or use the philosopher's stone and surprisingly enough, there was a RED GEM, on the guy's ring.

It's never been established that this is actually possible though. They never brought anyone back to life except for Ed at the very end.

>And he knows the pain of blahblahblah relative coming back to live, hope and despair general shonen philosophy.

Yeah I really hate that. It's so flawed I don't know where to start. I want to criticize this really badly though, since it's like a central point/theme/character trait of the anime.

>It isn't a good thing, He's showing the truth to the people, and obvious despair and whatnot.

Oh okay then.

>I meant with the actual anime/manga you aren't going to start a manga off successfully with no battles or anything else.

Well fair enough, but at least have good reasons for the battle, and make the battle at least somewhat realistic.

>Yep, but he isn't exactly a kid, and that gate is rather important. Not to mention, If you have used the gate once already, you can use It again, and choose what to lose.

This is all new to me.

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)14:33 No.55201407

>>55201309
>It's never been established that this is actually possible though. They never brought anyone back to life except for Ed at the very end.
Bringing people back to life, Is impossible, bringing new life (Although they won't have a soul) and new body parts is.

>Yeah I really hate that. It's so flawed I don't know where to start. I want to criticize this really badly though, since it's like a central point/theme/character trait of the anime.
Well, It's what you get If you wanna read shonen.
>Well fair enough, but at least have good reasons for the battle, and make the battle at least somewhat realistic.
That is true.
>This is all new to me.
It's explained in more depth in the manga.
But It can be also more complicated:
For example, Ed sacrifices the power to access the gate to bring back Ed's true body

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)14:35 No.55201442 >greentext, greentext everywhere It's like I'm really reading an online forum with quotes. Jesus Christ, people, you can actually reply to people without having to bring up every single sentence in their posts for individual scrutiny.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)14:36 No.55201470 >>55201442 It helps put things into context. And easier to see than "Jesus Christ, people, you can actually reply to people without blah blah"

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)14:36 No.55201486 babby's first grimdark Brotherhood is babby's first "loldeep" shonen Both are shit don't bother, the manga is even worse, it's drawn by a woman who can't draw backgrounds and couldn't keep being consistent.

>>	Kevin-kun !!jXa1xyIyNUh 09/27/11(Tue)14:37 No.55201506 File1317148638.jpg-(14 KB, 356x174, ohnoes.jpg) >That feel when you realize how much anime you've actually watched over the years and the list is still growing. What the fuck.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)14:37 No.55201508 >>55201486 You sure you read the same thing as us?

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)14:38 No.55201541 >>55201506 >43 >Alot The fuck are you talking about? You are still entry level

>>	Argumentative Anonymous !!HkNjX9NFPG1 09/27/11(Tue)14:39 No.55201559 >>55201541 He's talking about the other tripfag.

>>	Kevin-kun !!jXa1xyIyNUh 09/27/11(Tue)14:39 No.55201573 >>55201541 This is a lot more than I thought...leave me alone. Can you help me name a gundam series I can't find? It ends with one of the MC losing a limb and the other MC falling in love.

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)14:40 No.55201588

>>55201407
>Bringing people back to life, Is impossible, bringing new life (Although they won't have a soul) and new body parts is.

Yes but they would basically be making a new homunculus. (And there are only 7 sins lol), it wouldn't be the same as bringing her boyfriend back to life. He wouldn't have the same personality etc.

>Well, It's what you get If you wanna read shonen.

Yeah I guess it's just shounenshit after all.

>It's explained in more depth in the manga.
>But It can be also more complicated:
>For example, Ed sacrifices the power to access the gate to bring back Ed's true body

Don't you mean Al's true body? I don't really understand any of this but why is the Gate so important anyway?

>>	!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)14:41 No.55201603 >>55201559 Nooo, I have 76 total entries.

Argumentative Anonymous !!HkNjX9NFPG1 09/27/11(Tue)14:44 No.55201694

>>55201588
>Yes but they would basically be making a new homunculus. (And there are only 7 sins lol), it wouldn't be the same as bringing her boyfriend back to life. He wouldn't have the same personality etc.
The "Sins" Manga wise are taken from father, meaning any Person(?) could take their "Sins" out as homunculus.
And, Ed didn't know this at that point, and was searching for a stone anyway.

>Yeah I guess it's just shounenshit after all.
At points........Yes, at other times It deviates from that path.
>Don't you mean Al's true body? I don't really understand any of this but why is the Gate so important anyway?
Yes, I meant Al sorry.
The "Gate" Allows you to access Human Transmutation, and the "Clap" Transmutation as well.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)14:45 No.55201711 File1317149124.jpg-(55 KB, 720x295, annie mays.jpg) >>55201506 I've only been watching anime regurlarly (and following shows airing in the season) about 3 years ago, i had watched a few series before that though.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)14:47 No.55201764 BJ, get your ass in here and teach this moron about anime: http://bunbunmaru.com/wakaba/general/res/36851.html#i36864

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)14:49 No.55201812

>>55201694
>The "Sins" Manga wise are taken from father, meaning any Person(?) could take their "Sins" out as homunculus.

Okay fair enough.

>Ed didn't know this at that point, and was searching for a stone anyway.

Ok fair enough. But shouldn't he learn about the stone BEFORE he uses it?

>At points........Yes, at other times It deviates from that path.

When?

>The "Gate" Allows you to access Human Transmutation

Nobody ever uses that, and it costs way too much.

>and the "Clap" Transmutation as well.

A minor inconvenience, you can just keep drawn circles on your hand like Mustang and avoid having to draw the same thing over and over again.

Argumentative Anonymous !!HkNjX9NFPG1 09/27/11(Tue)14:52 No.55201902

>>55201812
>Ok fair enough. But shouldn't he learn about the stone BEFORE he uses it?
The thing that's outlawed by the most powerful nation, with nearly no written data, blocked top secret records, and no actual people knowing what the fuck it is?
I'm pretty sure that's easy.
>When?
The parts where It turns into Grimdark.
>Nobody ever uses that, and it costs way too much.
>A minor inconvenience, you can just keep drawn circles on your hand like Mustang and avoid having to draw the same thing over and over again.
I'm not saying either of them are good, I'm saying the Gate simply allows you to use these.

>>	Kevin-kun !!jXa1xyIyNUh 09/27/11(Tue)14:59 No.55202079 >>55201734 >08th MS Team? I think that's the one. Possibly. It aired on Toonami at one point, yes?

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)15:07 No.55202353

>The thing that's outlawed by the most powerful nation, with nearly no written data, blocked top secret records, and no actual people knowing what the fuck it is? I'm pretty sure that's easy.

Dr Marcoh knows about it. Why not ask around in Central.

>The parts where It turns into Grimdark.

Deadman Wonderland.

>I'm not saying either of them are good, I'm saying the Gate simply allows you to use these.

Yeah okay so its basically nothing other than a minor inconvenience then.

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)15:10 No.55202441

>>55202353
>Dr Marcoh knows about it. Why not ask around in Central.
Dr Marcoh's research notes were not found until they searched through years of records If I remember correctly.
>Deadman Wonderland.
?
>Yeah okay so its basically nothing other than a minor inconvenience then.
Well, not to mention the gate also symbolizes your ability to transmute things.

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)15:13 No.55202546

>>55202441
>Dr Marcoh's research notes were not found until they searched through years of records If I remember correctly.

Yes but by chance somehow Ed meets him early on in episode 14 I think?

>?

Deadman Wonderland is another shounen grimdark story. You might wanna check that out before saying grimdark isn't a shounen thing.

>Well, not to mention the gate also symbolizes your ability to transmute things.

That doesn't matter at all compared to getting Al's body back for free.

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)15:15 No.55202617

>>55202546
>Yes but by chance somehow Ed meets him early on in episode 14 I think?
That's before the Priest though, so your point is invalid.
>Deadman Wonderland is another shounen grimdark story. You might wanna check that out before saying grimdark isn't a shounen thing.
Aha I see.
>That doesn't matter at all compared to getting Al's body back for free.
Well, It means Ed can't transmute, at all.
Ever again.

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)15:17 No.55202667

>>55202617
>That's before the Priest though, so your point is invalid.

Fair enough.

>Well, It means Ed can't transmute, at all.
>Ever again.

Bummer.

Why does Ed care so much about getting Al's body back anyway?

Surely Al's immortal body is superior to his weak and frail biological body?

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)15:20 No.55202758 >>/a/?task=search2&ghost=&search_text=&search_username=&sea rch_tripcode=%21%21BJiYgff8zf2&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new

Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)15:20 No.55202761

>>55202667
>Why does Ed care so much about getting Al's body back anyway?
>Surely Al's immortal body is superior to his weak and frail biological body?
Well, It was Ed's fault anywho.
And the "Immortal" body, cannot feel, cannot eat, and isn't really useful, not to mention, no one really wants to be immortal when they have friends.

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)15:29 No.55203109

>>55202761
>Well, It was Ed's fault anywho.

Ed's fault for giving his brother a superior body. Okay.

>And the "Immortal" body, cannot feel

It can see and hear. That's good enough.

>cannot eat

How is that a bad thing?

>and isn't really useful

I disagree. I think it's much more useful actually. Al can transmute any part of his body and instantly repair himself. He is the ideal fighter.

>not to mention, no one really wants to be immortal when they have friends.

Well get Ed to make their friends immortal too. What's so hard?

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)15:30 No.55203141 >>55203109 Ed wanted It back. There.

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)15:31 No.55203171 >>55203141 *Al Goddamn I confuse those two alot.

!!BJiYgff8zf2 09/27/11(Tue)15:35 No.55203321

>>55203141
>>55203171

Al doesn't want it back. It's Ed who wants to get Al's body back.

And just because a character wants something doesn't make them immune to criticism.

It's precisely because they have these foolish wants that we criticise them for being shounenshit

>>	Anonymous 09/27/11(Tue)15:36 No.55203354 >>55203321 Al wants It back but doesn't want to sacrifice human life for it. And Ed wants to get Al's body back because He feels guilty.

>>	Kevin-kun !!jXa1xyIyNUh 09/27/11(Tue)15:38 No.55203445 File1317152325.jpg-(38 KB, 225x350, 93786.jpg) >>55202288 Thank you~!

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