why are you such an attention whoring faggot?

While I wait, I'm going to dump some manga my group has scanlated.

How's it going Yazawa?

>>52495608
What manga do you think is gonna hit big in the next few months?

Know of any good freelancer cleaner/typesetter?

How much moon do you actually know, and how long did it take you to learn it?

Also, how do you choose what to scanlate?

I was a scanlator back when AQS was still scanlating Mahou Sensei Negima, and I have to ask this: Why are so many scanlators today attention-whoring drama queens who cry whenever somebody uploads their scanlation somewhere else, questions a translation, asks for something, or is wondering why a series is weeks late. Look at Woxxy and that streaming manga attention whoring bullshit. Or the attention whoring of some RAW providers today. Back when I was scanlating, people did it for the fans and the community. Not for the e-peen and internet fame.

I don't understand, what's there to talk about?

Do YOU do it as a hobby or do you get paid/consider it a part-time job.

Stop being a lazy bum and go scanlate something with the time you would waste here.

>Good mood
>Posts in thread in /a/

Prepare for your day to shift!

whats your opinion of one group starting on a series another group is already doing?

whats the next series your group is planning on working on?

>>52495608
Why the fuck do you feel the need to make a topic like this every fucking day. You're not even like that group gthat did Usagi Drop who did work on the board. You're just an attention whoring faggot.

I guess I can jump in for a few questions.

>>52495743
I've been studying upwards of four years now, and I still don't know everything. Translating manga is such a wonderful way to learn Japanese, though; I learn something new every chapter.

It took me about 6 months of studying kana, a little kanji here and there, before I was able to start translating.

Most of the stuff I've scanlated are requests from /a/ or /u/. Anything else are things that I found interesting while reading through magazines I bought for other series. Pic related; it's Femme Fatale.

Sage for disapproving of your (and my) attention whoring at this moment.

What does "scanlator" mean?

>>52495608
I have several questions, as I know almost nothing about the process, and ultimately, would like to get involved with it. What sort of programs would I need, and what jobs would someone who can't read moonrunes accomplish. Also, what stages of the process are the most time consuming. And last, but not least, could 1 person pick up a series, have /a/ translate it, and actually put a dent in it, or would it be a waste of time?

>>52495702

Pretty alright bro.

>>52495712

The King of Neet and Koutetsu no Hanapashira

>>52495728

I know a couple, not sure what they're doing though.

>>52495743

I don't know much moon, but my translators all took from 3-7 years to learn to moon. As for what makes me pick manga, it's really dependent on what I'm in the mood for, but I like older manga best, especially ones with delinquents.

>>52495757

I feel, that when a person picks up a manga, they feel it's theirs from that moment onward. So when anyone insults it, post it on other websites, etc. They feel they have been wrong. Of course it could also be because they want people to go to their site to get ad revenue or something to be get money. It could be a number of reasons, but those are the first two that come to my head.

>>52495915
"scan" is obvious.
"lator" Translator.

OK, how come the big 3 get 3-5 groups releasing the same fucking chapter, while tons of works go untranslated?! Pandering assholes.

>>52496030
because they're better?

>>52495920
You can't read moonrunes? You can do a ton of shit:
Cleaning - taking the raw scans, making them look nice, then erasing the Japanese text. I classify cleaning into two steps; one step for making the scans look nice and white, and another step for removing text.

Typesetting - putting the text on the page. I have a lot of fun with this sometimes; getting to use different fonts and putting words in different formations is awesome.

Proofreading - the idiot's job. Basically just making sure every bubble is filled with the right text, checking for spelling and grammar errors, and fixing sentences that could sound nicer. Even translators born in the states make derby errors.

I do everything from scanning to typesetting, and I use:
Photoshop CS2 (for scanning, cleaning, typesetting)
Notepad (for translations)


Your last question - yes. Hox has been doing a lot of stuff. I'd mention myself, but I haven't been very active on /a/ lately (or in general).

Hey /a/, I'm actually in a good mood today, so let's have this thread. You can ask anything you want except asking for recommendations and sauce, the answer to those will always be Boku no Pico. Fellow /a/ bros, feel free to jump in and answer questions as well.

>>52496117
whers your trip?

why cant I have a shitstorm of people quoting post due to me foreshadowing my consecutive digits appended at the end of my post number?

>>52495950
>So when anyone... ....post it on other websites, etc. They feel they have been wrong.
BULLSHIT! They just want ad traffic hits. Quit lying to yourself.

>>52496117

Do you have a cat? If so, is it fluffy?

That goes for >>52495608 too.

>>52495821

It's a hobby, and you can ask anything. Anything at all, except to work on some manga you want to see translated, I ain't doing that bro, sorry.

>>52495827

But I released stuff yesterday...

>>52495842

I doubt it'll be that bad bro, /a/ can be ok sometimes.

>>52495861

I think it's fucked because they're only picking it up to get attention and such. However if it's a manga that hasn't been worked on in MONTHs, then it isn't bad, they're just trying to get the manga moving along. As for the next manga we're doing, we're working on the one shots at the end of Gorgeous Irene.

>>52495901

>Everyday
>Do it once or twice a month at best.

Anyways, if you don't like it bro, just hide the thread.

>>52495915

Person who scans and translates manga.

>>52495920

Well it goes like this:

1. Scan the manga
2. Translator translates it
3. Cleaner Cleans it
4. Editor/Typesetter typesets it
5. Quality Checking commences
6. It is complete.

It's all a matter of opinion of which is most difficult, but for me it's typesetting. It's such a bother. Anyways, for programs, Photoshop is a must.

>>52496030
>>52495757 has a point. The reason 10 groups will do a popular release is because they want the e-peen of getting stuff out first.

Honestly, doing a popular series is more trouble than it's worth. I did a popular shoujo series for two years, and the fanbase is absolutely nauseating. Much better to do lesser-known series, take your time and do a good job, and contribute to the community, rather than try to suck a fanbase's cock.

Continuing to politely sage.

>>52496140
I had to read that twice to understand it.

>>52496062
>implying the big 3 are better
kill yourself

>>52496154

I do, but I like my cats shaved.

>>52496193
Nah i'm joking, but one piece is.

>>52496159
This thread is kind of annoying, since it makes scanlators look like meta-thread attention whores, but whatever. I agree with Translator-Fag, working on popular shit is a hassle, we've done it a handful of times and it's never been as fun as doing our niche titles.

>>52496030
1. e-peen
2. A large number of translators (especially the more talented and creative ones) choose projects because we are interested in translating them, rather than because we feel that we have some sort of duty to the community. I personally translate things because I like translating; I do not give a fuck about who, if anybody, ends up reading them. I went to school for translation, I am a straight-up translation nerd (the same way you have geology nerds or physics nerds), and that's why I do it.

>>52496030

Because if a group works on a popular manga, the group becomes popular.

>>52496152

Uh, at the rest of the post I said they may just want people to go to their site for ad revenue as well to get money.

>>52496154

Nope, no cat. I have 4 dogs though.

>>52496214
long as you don't say Bleach is, I can accept that. Cause that series quickly turned to dogshit after the Rukia arc ended.

>>52496247
>>52496226

Why is Village Idiot being a jerk and adds watermarks and random hentai pages? Why don't more translators add a translator's page and not adding translator's notes.

you make any money doing this?

Why are a lot of you guys such faggots? Not necessarily you in particular, but tons of the people of your trade are whiny bitches.

>>52496276
Nope, i agree.

About how long does it take you to do a chapter of the average manga?

>>52496247
I wish I could find someone like you to tackle this fuckton of untranslated material. Seriously, wish there were more out there who enjoyed doing it and sharing their work with others.

>>52496299
I assume that at least one scanlator out there is trying to make money off it, in one way or another (ad revenue, for one). I've never tried. It's not like I'm looking for site traffic or to make money, anyways. I just want to allow other people to be able to read the series I like, too. And giving back to the community I've leeched off of for several years is always nice.

>>52496338
I have no idea. I assume it's because people are doing it more for the e-peen now, instead of for the fans. They get jelly when other groups take 'their' project, or when rival group is getting more pageview than them. What losers.

We tried picking up a shoujo series once when it was first announced, and some other group pounced all over us, telling us to back off. Guess what happened three months later? They dropped it. And guess who's going to be translating it now?

It's really a lot of useless drama.

>>52496338
it's the internet AND it's a nerd subculture

For those of you who did not have the fortune to be a nerd before the proliferation of the internet, let me tell you that nerd subcultures just breed tremendous faggots. The internet just made things worse, by giving those faggots the ability to be a faggot to people outside the range of their local comic book shop.

What was the hardest thing to translate that you've worked on?

Do you guys ever get asked to translate for actual companies? If not why don't you advertise that way? I love being able to read stuff online but sometimes I'd like a hard copy of some stuff in english and i really don't feel like printing an entire series page by page...

>>52496373
Breaking it down into parts:
Translation: 30min - 1 hour
Cleaning (1): 1 hour
Cleaning (2): 2 hours
Typesetting: 1-2 hours
Total: 4-6 hours.

I can churn out a 20-page ecchi in 3-4 hours due to ease of translation and typesetting, but a 50-page seinen with lots of handwritten text on the sides can take me upwards of 8 hours.

When I was first starting out, it took me about 16 hours to do a chapter, as I wasn't as speedy with cleaning and typesetting yet.

>>52496440
>They get jelly when other groups take 'their' project, or when rival group is getting more pageview than them.
I'm betting that's what happened with Facepalm, cause they suddenly froze work on Rotte, after getting beatch the punch by anon for a couple chapters.

>>52496288

Maybe people were bugging the shit out of him or just wants to make a mark to show it's his translation and such. Either way it's pretty dumb. As for why TL notes/TL pages don't appear more often, it's because it's dependent on the group and the manga. Some manga don't require many TL notes or those that do, the group is too lazy to include.

>>52496299

No, but apparently some groups do make money doing this, which isn't right since this process is pretty fucked.

>>52496338

I wouldn't know really but I guess most of them feel entitled to something when they do this, like if we owe them for working on random manga. This is wrong of course, since all they did was translate it.

However I'm not sure if that's the answer you want, if you could be more specific I'm willing to answer it better.

>>52496501
does handwritten take longer dude to sloppy handwriting or does it just look too foreign for non-native speaking eyes?

>>52496489
Some people do. The Haruhi LNs' English translation was adapted from the fan translation, though I don't know the specifics of the deal, and plenty of former fansubbers work for Crunchyroll now (though they sought those jobs by their own volition).

>>52496214
Brofist.jpg

>>52496465
This series right here. I'm still working on it. It's mostly because they're college and grad students, and there's a lot of vocab in there I haven't learned yet. Typesetting takes a while too. Picture fucking related. Great series though, I love it...despite the hassle.

>>52496489
No, never. I have a feeling a lot of manga translation companies don't like the lot of us. Honestly, though, I don't think I'd like to work for a translation company. I like to work at my own pace (and the pace of the fans pestering me). Also, I've noticed that the editing done in a lot of "professionally" released manga is...shoddily done. I'm too picky.

>>52496542
I probably worded it wrong. What I meant is translators should make translator's pages instead of adding translator's notes everywhere. English is not my first language

>>52496373

I'd say max 5 hours, if it's a really long chapter with redraws and lots of words, up to 10 hours.

>>52496465

Gekiman, a new manga by Go Nagai. It was one of the longest most boring shit to ever work on and then the typesetter up and decided to be one of the biggest egotistical assholes I had met up at that point and tried to argue my translator was wrong. I thankfully dropped out of that project but fuck it was long and in the end nothing got done.

>>52496489

Some people who scanlated have moved on to translate for actual companies. However, scanlation is more of a fan kind of thing, not something of a business. We're translating the mangas because we want to see them translated and want other people to read it. It's not a business, more of a way of sharing.

>>52496625
Handwritten takes longer usually due to sloppy handwriting. I can't tell you the amount of times I've been stumped on an ambiguous kanji written in extremely shitty handwriting. I've been getting better at it in the last year or so, though, mostly because of how much I've been practicing writing kanji instead of just reading it.

The hard part about tons of handwritten text over images is photoshopping them out. Sometimes I'll just be lazy, typeset over it, and then photoshop what's visible behind the text.

>>52496675
I'll put in translator's notes to the side of the image if it's short and will fit. If I have to do more than two or three notes in a chapter, though, I'll put in an asterik and a translator's page.

When we did a few chapters of Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, translator's pages EVERYWHERE

>>52496675

Ah, because it's better to put it on the page it happens. Say for example someone makes a volume batch, the TL Page comes up and it says "On page 23, blah blah blah" and you go back to it and it's not the actual note.

Some groups do pages, but the note on the actual page is preferred.

Why do you hate comic-sans?

>>52496489
if the English version of j-comi ever happens, that could be the future. least from the way akamatsu was talking.

why am I so unmotivated?

Please translate kimi no sei ;_;

Nope.

what's stopping you from translating hentai games?

why is every group constantly recruiting translators?
are the more experienced moonspeakers moving on to paid translation jobs and ditching the scanlation work?

Why isn't anyone scanlating this?

>>52496777
Because it looks like a fucking two year old decided to scanlate. It's up there with not centering text and putting in GTO color boxes.

>>52496840
What's it about?

>>52496440
IIRC, the two guys translating Negima were both former members of a scanslator group. Thou now they bitch how scanslations are supposedly 'denying them money', cause Kodansha is paying them dick for their work.

>>52496904
Its a really good shoujo manga, but the translators take at least like 3 months before translating a new chapter so I am requesting even though you said not to. Would be really nice though reading the rest of the story because I have never read anything like it.

>>52496777
Because eyes

>>52496847
Talented coders willing to work for free are a lot harder to find than amateur photoshop users

>>52496813
I would very much like to see this happen. Is j-comi up and running already? I remember reading about it last year, but then never heard much about it after that.

do all scanlators hate mangareader?

>>52496847
I don't know. Mostly because the translation interface is different.

By that I mean, for manga, I usually pop open Notepad and type for an hour. I don't know if it's done differently for VNs / hentai games, especially with multiple routes and whatnot.

>>52496885
Because people who want to translate shit are few and far between. There are plenty of moonspeakers who just don't want to put the time in to translate a chapter. It can be quite easy, but so is going grocery shopping and doing your laundry, and we all have days when we don't want to do that, right?

Then there's also the problem of group drama and translators not wanting to translate things anymore, or translators being commissioned for series they hate. People are always looking for translators.

As much of a hassle translating can be, I'm kind of glad I'm a translator so I don't have to deal with the not-having-a-translator bullshit.

Oh dear. I forgot to sage and bumped the thread...

What is your favorite anime?

Which Infinite Stratos girl do you like most?

when scanlating comedy series (with a lot of puns)
do you guys just make up your own jokes sometimes?

>>52496982
j-comi.jp has been up for many months now. don't know what's going on with that English version thou.

Isn't the one-shot from Gorgeous Irene Buso poker, Araki's first ever manga?

>>52496777

Because it's a terrible, terrible font.

>>52496831

Because you need meaning.

>>52496847

I'm not into hentai.

>>52496885

Because translators are the hardest to find in the scanlation world. And it's mostly because translators are wanted for everything from anime, to visual novels, etc. etc.

>>52496900

Lack of interest or no one wants to work on it. If you want to see it done, try showing it other groups and see if any are interested in possibly picking it up.

>>52496981
Well, the attention-whoring gentleman who began the thread doesn't take requests, but ever since I started translating on /a/ in 2008, I've taken requests.

Also,
>shoujo
usually screams "easy translation". I'll take a look at the mangaupdates page and see if I can do anything for you, good sir.

>>52497000
No. I don't really know why I should hate them. I just focus on translating. Couldn't care about who hosts as long as there's credit somewhere.

>>52496900
What ever happened to the anime project? I want cute girls doing cute things on motorcycles dammit!

Can you guys do excel saga, it finished this month.

>>52497116
Whoops.
I meant The One-shot you're translating next.

>>52497139
you sir are a gentlemen and a scholar

>>52497124
how do I find this meaning?

Why do you guys drop series? I was looking forward to reading Akikan! and Color Wars...

That said, who do you like best?

Blue, Green, Orange, Red, or Purple?