>>51350901

>mfw the wording of the law allows people to have photographs of pedo-shit, but not drawings

>Whether or not it will be repealed is unknown
No signs of this even coming close to happening. Ishihara's motto of "Rule Tokyo, Rule Japan" is in full charge and the banhammer has already started swinging.

Less than 5% of seats opposed the bill, there has barely been a formal complaint raised and several manga magazines and serializations shut down long before today.

Noone cares

Well, I guess there's always Osaka.

>>51350901

I'm gonna laugh when it turns out that this bill does absolutely nothing to affect manga & anime.

>>51351240
Mainly because the ban doesn't affect all of Japan. There are other markets for anime and manga to flourish. Tokyo will lose out and Akihabara will become a ghost town...

wtf are you faggots talking about?

link or something?

>>51351517
You could at least pretend you aren't new here.

>>51351517
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/07/01/tokyo-manga-ban-now-in-effect/

>>51351517
>summer
>>51351576
>sankaku
but I don't doubt the validity of the ban taking place today

>>51351549
why would i do that? so that i can have a glorious anonymous e-rep? faggot

>>51351576
thanks

>>51351240
>I'm gonna laugh when it turns out that this bill does absolutely nothing to affect manga & anime.
I've got news for you....

>2011
>banning drawings

>>51351356
that may be true but 93% of the anime and manga industry is located in Tokyo, not to mention a tenth of japan's total population. There's absolutely, absolutely no way any national company can avoid the ban itself short of getting it repealed.

>>51351641

>shitkaku
>thanks

i thought it took place in april it's goddamn july

>>51350955
CP is already technically illegal in Japan.

>The law itself specifically targets (2D) content which “improperly glorifies or promotes illegal sexual activity,”

Too bad GLOIROUS NIPPON doesn't have free speech like the greatest country in the world. This is for your own good you weaboos.

>>51351661

But again there's no way the enforcement guys would really come to a studfio and fine them for showing panty shots or lesbian yuri scenes.

After all, if the Japanese police can't even stop the Yakuza, then why would they regulate anime and manga?

>>51351240
The bill has already shut down several dozen different manga series and caused delays in the release of other series as they had to be relabelled and modified to fit the terms of the bill. Not to mention how the cultural anime fest had half its entries pulled out. Seems to be affecting things to me.

>>51351709
Then they need to find a way around it. I'm sure the bill has a loophole. This basically kills an entire industry and thousands of people will be out of a job.

Maybe we should have them relocate to California. Our economy is in the toilet. We could use a boost.

I'm pretty sure this kicked in June 1st.

Not that it really matters. It may have an impact on some of the more out there shounen titles, but not any of the stuff that is popular around here. (except perhaps berserk and kiss x sis)

It won't really have any effect on anime. All of that shit is already regulated pretty heavily by broadcast stations, that crazy fog stuff that wants you to buy the BDs, and the ever-present threat of the PTA.

>>51351764
>Powerful armed gangs
>Old perverts drawing pictures
Why would Yakuza be harder to stop?

>>51351764
companies are law-abiding, yakuza aren't, besides the bill is self policed, that means you're not being watched by the police but by other companies and media watchdogs, if you instate a media riot your company is absolutely fucked so everyone is self-censoring their works.

>>51351764
>they won't stop anime because they can't stop Yakuza

So are you really that dense?

>fanservice/softcore porn may take a hit
OH NOES

>>51351777
Who would want to live in California? It's almost just as bad.

>>51351777
>Then they need to find a way around it. I'm sure the bill has a loophole. This basically kills an entire industry and thousands of people will be out of a job.
The easiest way around to bill is to fulfill everything Ishihara wants. Anyone who thinks relocating is a good idea is a total derp. And no, this won't kill thousands of jobs outside of the couple dozen mangaka who had their serializations cancelled, it simply changes the content served.

>>51351806

Because why would you fine mangakas when you can spend your taxes on better things like clamping down criminals and counselling rape victims.

Hell, Japan needs a proper mental health system. That could affect anime more than this bill.

>>51351777

Okay.

You must be trolling me at this point /a/. I'm out.

>>51351800
>>that crazy fog stuff that wants you to buy the BDs

Who's to say that the BluRays aren't either going to be blackballed to the adult section or banned outright.

Imagine if Sarah Palin becomes President and she ends up creating a law that bans anime, pornography, open mindedness and non-Christian teachings.

>>51351800
>All of that shit is already regulated pretty heavily by broadcast stations
Not to mention by the sponsors, sponsors are even worse than broadcasting stations.

The bill won't affect anime too much, or at least no one is going to really notice the lack of anything other than maybe a few more SOL shows.

It's the manga and visual novel industry which are the hardest hit by the bill, especially since several magazines have decided to go out of print.

>>51351892
Blurays are mostly sold via mail order, there is no real way to control it.

Do I have to worry about my Kiss x Sis?

>>51351814

But again media watchdogs and censorship boards can't do anything if the anime being made is basically R+/18 anyways.

In france they don't give a shit if a movie or TV show featuring kids as main characters is rated 18.

delicious filthy pedophile gaijin scum's tears.

>>51351892
Then adults will buy it?
The "adults only" sticker isn't as shameful over there as it is here, and it's not like the stuff with tits in it is really going to suffer when the demographic that consumes 98% of it are otaku that really don't give a fuck about society at large.
Yosuga no Sora did just fine and it had the same rating as porn both when it aired on television and when it was sold in stores.

Hell, BDs with nudity may be rated for adults as it is. And if they aren't, they probably need to be.

>>51351960
making a manga AO is a great way to kill it.

>>51351892
That would unconstitutional you dumb fuck.

Get out of my country.

>>51351948
They originate from japan, more than 90% of the industry is in tokyo, so yeah, this is a great idea for all those industries who aren't located in tokyo

>>51352004
Lest we forget the Hot Coffee incident.

>>51352004
It depends on what kind of manga it is, really.

>pedoshit being banned

Good.

Now at least we may see mangaka involved in this kind of garbage, actually putting their talents to good use, and thus giving us more good titles to choose from

>>51352036
sales dropped pretty hard but since it had occurred long after release date everything was fine.

>>51352004

Pfft, as if Japan has an AO rating that would prevent people from buying it (People will buy it more actually)

And actually this bill does not affect hentai and most OVAs. So they're safe for know

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/17/ishihara-otaku-have-corrupt-dna/

this is pretty disturbing in of itself

TLR isn't affected by this right?

>>51352070
>hurr durr

>>51352090
>(People will buy it more actually)
Thanks for advertising that you don't know what you're talking about, but please, don't contribute to misinformation

>>51352035
Funny thing thatif retailer is located outside of Tokyo area, Ishihara already can't do anything. Any anime can be produced and bought in Tokyo, it only has to be sold outside of it. It just means mail ordering could get even more important than it is right now.

>>51352097
TLR and Kiss x Sis are series I'd actually be worried about. TLR really wanders close to being outright porn, but it's a shounen title.

>>51352120

Come on, in the age where 2 Girls 1 cup can get millions of views and A Serbian Film selling alot in DVD sales, there's no doubt that people will buy a medium which has lots of controversy.

Controversy sells.

Who do you expect to fight against it?
Even if it's 2D and harmless to real people, society at large see it as bad. No one with half a brain will argue in favour of loli.

>>51352118

Now i feel guilty of summoning Yotsuba C

>>51352135
That doesn't change the fact it'll still hit the industry hard.

>Ban will make publishers too nervous to even depict schools
>Yotsuba will never go to school
>mfw that fucker is denying 2D children a decent education

>>51352172
Hit what? Garbage like Qwaser? Good fucking riddance.

>>51352159
derp harder

>there will be no fanservice shit
I'm proud of you Tokyo.

>>51352195
Qwaser won't be affected, thank god. It's always nice to see how stupid the people who hate fanservice are.

>>51352194
>too nervous to even depict schools
That's shitkaku bullshit and you should feel dumb for believing it.

>>51352208

>there will be no fanservice shit

Really?
I'm beginning to love this law even more now

>>51352224
But I'm a tripfag, I'm dumb by default.

>>51352161
That's probably the best thing about America, they'll still always go against common opinion for free speech.

Loli is technically illegal in my country, and thinking about this shit is probably the only time I wish I was American.

>>51352241
>>51352208
You are both retarded. Is /a/ really as dumb as shitakucomplex now?

ITT - No one knows what the fuck they are talking about, so they make wild speculations.

The truth of the matter is, while it will effect a few titles, it's not going to kill the anime industry.

That's JC Staff's job, with their generic bitchy tsundere recolors[/spoilers]

>>51352241
Fanservice won't be effected at all.

Stuff that might be targeted is the stuff that wades pretty deeply into the taboo (like incest) or stuff that's exceedingly violent (like guts or berserk).

Remember that this isn't America we're talking about here. They have a higher tolerance when it comes to sexual themes and a lower tolerance when it comes to violence.

>>51352159
In general media controversy garners interest, which may lead to sales for those interested in the actual subject but the ban is general and doesn't focus on any individual series. This won't generate interest in anything, it'll simply cause several series to be cancelled and impede the creation of certain types of series. Japan is also different, due to the stipulations of the bill, media controversy would absolutely destroy a series since heavy fines would be enacted, which certainly wouldn't be beneficial in any way.

>>51352250
>That's probably the best thing about America, they'll still always go against common opinion for free speech.

Pffftt.. Do you really think anyone would fight in favour of loli if it ever got banned in America? Really?

This means no more softcore anime porn, right?

>>51352280
No one said anything about killing the anime industry, what is happening is a drastic change in the manga industry where several dozen manga series have already been killed.

>>51352302
There will always be a lawyer willing to take an unpopular case to the Supreme Court if it's unconstitutional. Arguing a case before the SC, no matter what the subject matter is, is crazy good for a lawyer's career.

>>51352302
It's been proven over and over again that the courts are smarter than that, so you tell me.

>>51352296
>stuff that's exceedingly violent
That's another popular misconception about the bill. Law regulating violence HAS ALREADY BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. Bill 156 just extends it to the taboo area you mentioned.

This doesn't effect doujin's does it? Because I've got about 7 auctions that end tomorrow, and I'm currently the highest bidder.

>>51351764
Police don't need to do that. Japanese people have a incredible sense of shame, if its made into a law they won't challenge it.

The law will force the echi and fan service retard series to get 18+ rating. Who the fuck cares, its not like anyone here are UNDERAGED right?

>>51352302

The courts give not one fuck about what insane moralfags think.

All they care about is upholding the constitution.

>>51352302
Loli has been banned like twice in america.

>>51352341
This is being really sensationalist, though. A lot of these series were canceled by publishers who were way more paranoid than they should have been, and all of them were also extremely explicit.

>>51351240
>>51351356
How ignorant can you guys be....Please hit your head on the wall for me.

>>51352388
>A lot of these series were canceled by publishers who were way more paranoid than they should have been, and all of them were also extremely explicit.
Then there's a direct correlation between the ban and the manga cancellations, and your definition of explicit must be quite vast because some of the titles' infractions were relatively tame, such as mentioning offscreen sex between highschoolers.

Btw you guys this doesn't stop doujinshi, they can still be sold.

I laugh have you guys seen this season?
>LOLI detective
>LOLI basketball
>Lolimaster fap anime

>>51352395

Aww and I like Yomeiro Choice for that dose of over sexualized fun.

Calm yourself, butthurt otaku.

First off, it only affects porn and hentai. People need to stop panicking and thinking this is the end of Anime as we know it.

Secondly, law only affects Tokyo. Anime and Manga are a multibillion dollar industry. If there's enough demand for girls liking rape or underaged sex in anime, they'll relocate to other cities if necessary. You can count on companies to do whatever they think is going to make them money. They won't just sit in Tokyo and pout.

Thirdly, Manga will be largely unaffected. Mangaka can live anywhere they want and mail their submission to publishers. And publishers can simply relocate to, or open branch offices in, cities that don't have such retarded rules.

And finally, all they have to do to bypass the law entirely is admit their underage-girl-enjoying-being-raped story is porn and label it as such.

It's not like any of you fucks buy manga or anime anyway. You read manga on fansub sites and torrent the anime. So quit bitching.

>First off, it only affects porn and hentai.
It doesn't affect them at all you idiot.

Aki Sora is dead in the water...

Oh well, it's not like we were getting it scanlated either, but at least the raws were delicious to fap to ;_;

>>51352388
>A lot of these series were canceled by publishers who were way more paranoid than they should have been
You're trying to argue someone else's point of view, people who make livings off of being professionals in the area not to mention. But you don't deny the fact that the Bill has already caused manga to get cancelled so what are you arguing for?

>>51352486

By definition that's what it does. It just expands the definition of porn.

Shouldn't you be in bed? You're clearly 12.

>2011
>Trying to dictate what others do with their free time.

>>51352472
But that's wrong you fucking retard, every single word you said.

>>51350901
Fuck yes!

Does this mean I have saved Japan from being American puppet?

All you Gaijin can fuck yourselves!

We were honourable country before you forced us into a war with economic warfare.

>>51352509
A few of them have been canned, but the sky isn't falling by any means.

Let me ask you this - were you actually reading any of the series that got canned? All but about two of them don't even have anyone scanalating/translating them.

>>51352539

It's 100% correct. You need to do *more* research than reading angry posts on /a/. Look up the law.

ITT: SHITkaku fags thinking fanservice shit will be affected.

Guess what faggots, MOSTLY SHOUJO WORKS, have been affected since in SHOUJO, characters ACTUALLY go through with HAVING SEX.

The only people who are going to be burthurt by this bill are solely FEMALE READERS, not male readers.

Girls won't be getting their fix of Angsty Bishonen Rapists anymore, while guys will continue getting their fix of beautiful girls.

The losers in this bill will be solely the female demographic.

What I want to know is why someone who is without a doubt clinically insane still has a political career.

Does Japan just work this way?

>>51352388
>A lot of these series were canceled by publishers who were way more paranoid than they should have been

You know that Japanese people have a sense of responsibility, by making the bill "self-regulated" it puts an enormous pressure on those in charge, we are talking about social apperance and such.

Ishihara makes it look dirty and shameful and shame in japan is very different elsewhere in the world. I not sure you guys understand how much it effects people's lives.

>>51352472
>stop panicking and thinking this is the end of Anime as we know it.
Okay einstein. Explain to us why this summer season has nothing like Akane-iro, YnS, or other incest themed anime....?

>>51352558
Maybe you should listen to your own advice

>>51352589
penguin.

>>51352589
please leave /a/ and don't come back.

>>51352589
I am doing this for Japan's good.

We do not need welfare cheats and lazy otakus.

We need strong men who can lead our Nation back to Glory.

We need strong men who can stand up to communists, imperialists and criminals.

May America, Russia and China drown in a sea of cum.

>>51352630
Are you?

>>51352589
And THAt'S what you call "the end of anime as we know it"?

>>51352630
durrp meant to quote
>>51352589

>>51352589
I dunno about Akane-iro, but Yosuga no Sora was rated R-18 and aired on ATX, which is a private channel.
It would have aired just as easily his fall as it did last fall, as works already rated as adult aren't regulated by this fill.

>>51352557
>All but about two of them don't even have anyone scanalating/translating them.
There you go. You just proved to us your fucking ignorance.

>>51352579
Where have you been?

>>51352678
This. people need understand R-18 works aren't effected.
the bill doesn't BAN anime it just forces it into the R-18 band.

>>51352093

Yes, but...

> However, in the same press conference he went on to praise Vladimir Nabokov’s classic lolicon novel “Lolita” – “It was shocking at the time, but at that level the description is quite beautiful.”

...holy shit, Sankaku is retarded. Just because Lolita is the namesake of the lolita complex does not mean that it IS a "lolicon novel." Lolita is about a pedophile, but it was in no way written FOR pedophiles.

>>51352472
>First off, it only affects porn and hentai. People need to stop panicking and thinking this is the end of Anime as we know it.
No, it affects everything that isn't porn, hentai, or a novel

>Secondly, law only affects Tokyo. Anime and Manga are a multibillion dollar industry. If there's enough demand for girls liking rape or underaged sex in anime, they'll relocate to other cities if necessary. You can count on companies to do whatever they think is going to make them money. They won't just sit in Tokyo and pout.
Tokyo is the hotbed of the anime and manga industry, every company in tokyo is affected, that's more than 90% of the industry, the only ones not affected are the small ten percent outside of tokyo, in short 90% of all anime and manga in japan is affected by the new law. If you really think anything about relocating is anything but akin to corporate suicide you derped hard.

>Thirdly, Manga will be largely unaffected. Mangaka can live anywhere they want and mail their submission to publishers. And publishers can simply relocate to, or open branch offices in, cities that don't have such retarded rules.
Manga is the hardest hit, branch companies won't do shit but make things worse due to the economics of the fact.

>And finally, all they have to do to bypass the law entirely is admit their underage-girl-enjoying-being-raped story is porn and label it as such.
The exact opposite, loli magazines have been AO for a long time and those are the ones that were hit the hardest, pretty soon LO will be the only one still publishing.


It's not like any of you fucks buy manga or anime anyway. You read manga on fansub sites and torrent the anime. So quit bitching.

Akisora got butchered perhaps partly due to the law. On the other hand you can maybe expect more mature themes in anime from now on.

>>51352650
YES. AND???

This shit is what live and breathe for ;_;

>>51352697
It's basically the California violent video games bill, but for anime and manga, and it actually got passed/

Will this affect my loli and touhou doujins?

>>51352650
My friend, I understand your concern.

I too no longer want Japan as a weak puppet and to do that we must purge those who are holding us back.

We must continue to vote LDP.
We must repeal the pig disgusting Article 9
We must develop nuclear weapons
We must establish military presence and make ourselves felt.

The job is only half done
But I not rest until Japan saved and no more anime made....besides honourable cartoons and that depict grorious Japan and inspiring manly men to do manly things...like shitting in mouths of Chinese communists.

I wish anime "as we know it" would die. it would drain away most of the fanbase that is just there for the pedo porn and whores. we could start to talk about Japanese animation as a medium and an art again, like we were doing in the 90's, instead of that guilty, dirty porno shit for soon to be fat stinky rapists

>>51352697
>bill doesn't BAN anime it just forces it into the R-18 band.
not necessarily, the Bill allows for it affect even R-18 material, it's not as if it does only a single thing and doesn't have a couple hundred statements.

>>51352742
You are right man.

Anime is too much filth.

It is a stain upon Japan's honour.

Our nation has never done anything wrong until we let young people have too much free time to draw porn.

We need to get back to traditional Japanese way of life.

>>51352589
>Okay einstein. Explain to us why this summer season has nothing like Akane-iro, YnS, or other incest themed anime....?

Baby Princess: 1 Boy and his 19 Sisters the Anime.

Also, lurk moar faggot.

We don't get wincest-themed anime all the time.

>>51352688
Feel free to name them, bro. Note that I said "canned".

And no, Aki-Sora does not count. It was going to end anyway, and the only volume that the publisher chose not to reprint was volume 2.

The bill has several hundred stipulations, rather than arguing about it, people should just read it.

And yes, the bill is changing the face of the manga industry.

>>51352702
Its sad what sensationalism does, a book can be about a criminal but no way does it cause people to commit crimes or glorify crimes just because it has a criminal in it.

because you see a gun doesn't mean you go on a rampage and kill people.

I think stephen frys word are best for this kind of situation:

"Well you hear people say "some people get affected by what they see and hear", you should answer "do you? do you commit crimes because you see them or hear about them? and these 'other people' do you know them? have you ever met them?""

>>51352742

Tsutomu Miyazaki (宮﨑 勤 Miyazaki Tsutomu?, August 21, 1962 – June 17, 2008), also known as The Otaku Murderer, The Little Girl Murderer, and Dracula, was a Japanese serial killer.

Between 1988 and 1989, Miyazaki mutilated and killed four girls, aged between four and seven, and sexually molested their corpses. He drank the blood of one victim and ate a part of her hand. These crimes—which, prior to Miyazaki's apprehension and trial were named "The Little Girl Murders", and later known as the Tokyo/Saitama Serial Kidnapping Murders of Little Girls (東京・埼玉連続幼女誘拐殺人事件 Tōkyō Saitama renzoku yōjo yūkai satsujin jiken?)—shocked Saitama Prefecture, which had few crimes against children.

>The media soon came to call him "The Otaku Murderer". His killings fueled a moral panic against otaku, accusing anime and horror films of making him a murderer. However these reports were disputed: in Eiji Otsuka's book on the crime, he argued that Miyazaki's collection of pornography was probably added or amended by a photographer in order to highlight his perversity. Another critic, Fumiya Ichihashi, suspected the released information was playing up to public stereotypes and fears about otaku, as the police knew they would help cement a conviction.

>>51352807
My plan is working.

Join me and we will destroy the anime industry.

Keep pirating anime please Gaijin.

You will save my nation from it's inferiority complex

You guys know this just means we'll get better quality control right?

No more pedoshit.

>>51352834
Totally read that quote in his voice.

>>51352928
Whart would you label as ''pedoshit''?

>>51352892
That the truth not the lie.

Otakus are a disturbing individual who must be stopped.

They should convert their time, attention and effort to more useful skills.

Like helping this nation
Or preparing for the fight against Communists.

Indeed why do we even have a communist party?

Communists are disgusting.

Must wipe them out and drink blood of my enemies.

>>51352807
People who say the Bill affects only porn or affects everything that isn't porn are wrong.

The Bill is a bit more encompassing than that, it will primarily affect non-porn material (that aren't novels) but at the same time bans several hentai elements.

For one thing, no more highschoolers being depicted having sex, no more loli (which has been banned in animated hentai since the 1980s). People who think companies will ignore around this are retarded, feminists managed to ban nekomimi porn on the grounds of bestiality and that has fucking stuck hard, companies will simply resort to doing what they have, doing exactly what the bill stipulates lest they get fined.

>his face when

>ITT Ishihara supporters

I couldn't be happier about this ban. Anything that (even slightly) takes anime away from the otaku pandering shitfest domain is a good thing

>>51352981
I am of saving Japan.

In long term, one day Japan strong again and resist China and Russia. We slap dick in their face.

Why Gaijin so mad?

Do they want to have their grandchildren speak Chinese and eat disgusting sweet and sour pork?

A strong Japan will help protect world from Evil.

And China and Russia Very Very Evil.

Japan opened a JSDF navy base in the red sea this month.

>>51352899
I'm gonna download all your novels and read them. For free.

>>51353035
WE MUST KILL THE JEWS THEY ARE THE TRUE EVIL.

You really think this is going to mean shit?

>>51352953

Ten year old girls hitting on twenty years old in some self-fulfillment manga you know which I'm talking about.

>>51353073
notice how they actually censored what the law requires them to in that picture, yeah, that's fucking ironic isn't it? The censors are going in place and there's nothing people can do to stop it.

This was probably asked a thousand times already, but will this affect doujins?
Doujins are handled as some kind of unofficial fan-works, aren't they?

>>51353094
Fine then.

FUCK THIS SHIT

>>51353032
Protip: the ban won't do a damn thing in that respect. Or did you forget that shows like K-ON are completely inoffensive in the first place? Just prepare for more of that, especially now that content is going to be more watered down than it already is.

>>51353073
>says newest censorship law doesn't mean anything
>shows picture with censorship in it doing exactly as the government wants
oh boy

I'm not worried about it. It's doesn't in fact ban anything. It like the law saying you had to be 18 to buy cigarettes. Never hurt tobacco sales.

>>51353037
Construction of the JSDF Base in Djibouti commenced in July 2010 and will be completed in June 2011. The base will initially house approximately 170 JSDF personnel and includes administrative , housing, medical , kitchen/dining , and recreational facilities as well as an aircraft maintenance hangar and parking apron.

Well this turned into a laugh fest. Quite entertained here.

>>51353122
>>51353149
Yeah that censorship is really killing the industry right? or am I being trolled

Is there any actual penalty for not following the bill? Seeing how vague it is and its the actual companies practicing self-restraint rather than being government enforced.

>>51353130
Doujin just means self-published.

It's a lot harder and less meaningful to fine a single person or small organization but that doesn't mean it won't have repercussions. Lots of hentai ovas are based off of doujiin work so this'll limit the kinds of things we get adapted, what kinds of people go commercial, get fullblown serializations and whatnot.

>>51353171
Different form of censorship, you should consider what's being changed. Not either of those people but I think it's funny you argue for more censorship either way.

Well good, maybe you failures will finally start using regular porn like normal people.

>>51353171
except in this case it is. Notice how Bill 156 has caused the shutdown of several titles and magazines.

>>51353179
fines and legal action

>>51353065
You make interesting point.

That depend.

Did they support Chiang Hai Shek bullshit lie of Japan so called false war crime?

If Y, KILL WIFF BUKKAKE!

>>51353041
No sir, please buy my intellectual and thoughtful novels to support it or else I very very angry and call my lawyers.

>>51353122
They don't though. Pubic hair isn't allowed, which is why all Hentai and live action porn is full of shaven girls.

I´m okay with the ban. It basically says that adult content should not be in manga/anime for kids. As far as that concerns sexual stuff (loli, rape, incest) it is mostly ok. It seems that homolust is also going to be banned. Well, that sucks, because even if myself I´m straight i think it goes too far. Faggots are people, too.

The only "problem" I see is that it might lead to less graphic violence in shonenshit. So no more ripping arms off, Kubo. BAAAAAAAWWW.

>>51352804
That's ONE fiucking ova. 1 episode. How does that even compare to a full series airing on tv?

>>51353381
You should get your information checked up, pubic hair hasn't been illegal since 1991. Some companies still censor it just because.

>>51353402
The only episodes that featured incest were the last ones.
I don't see any problem here

>>51353393
depends on your definition of adult content but things like having 20-year olds (still minors) commit crimes is included in the ban. So having minors do things like pickpocket, commit fraud, even jaywalking is applicable here.

...does this mean no more bleach? at least one good thing came from this...

>>51353393 no more ripping arms off, Kubo

I DOUBLE DOWN, BITCH!

>>51353402
>fiucking

>>51353458


Well thats just bloody stupid.

I don't really understand the point of this shit.
But as long as it doesn't affect the hipster shit we love i don't have a problem with it.

>>51353476
Probably no more Gundam. Anything involving anyone under 18 fighting a war or having giant mecha get blown up is banned.

The law is finally doing something properly.

>>51353509
Why do you hate me so much ishihara...WHYYY

>>51353535
What about the mahou shoujo genre?

This is just like those "crack down on pirating" laws..we all know how much those have changed things..

>>51353525
yeah, that's why people are hung up over the ban, because it's incredibly vague enough to include definitions like these. It used to be more specific but was shot down, then they came back made it vaguer and then passed, now it's another effective tool for enacting legal retribution whenever anything makes any sort of storm since there are so many more available legal landmines to trip over.

>>51353559
Cardcaptor Sakura episode 63. Lolis in bikinis. Do the math.

>>51353535
That just means they'd have to make their protagonists adults. I'M FINE WITH THIS.

Except we know this won't affect that, Sunrise wouldn't waste their money and time making Gundam AGE and Origin without being certain they wouldn't have to scrap it.

>>51353575
Anime and manga are legal industries and have to abide the law.

>>51351764

The yakuza should start producing anime and manga!>>51351806
>>51351814
>>51351827

>>51353596
bikini =/= naked

>this thread

/a/ has changed, years ago /a/ would've been over arms about loli and stuff getting banned. But now people are all like LOLI SHOULD BE BANNED.

/a/ has truly changed...

>>51353608
Sounds like a good plan.

You guys do realise things that actually matter won't be touched, right?

This ban isn't going to have any effect on Berserk, or Gundam, or anything else like that, even if they're illegal to the letter of the law. It's just going to be used to get rid of anything the government doesn't like, which isn't going to be anything popular, it's going to be obscure shit.

>>51353575
>laws
Yeah, you don't really know what you're talking about, action has mostly been in the hands of companies.

You know how legal patents work right? Those have defined the modern era of technology

>>51353617
You think ishihara cares about that?

>>51353506

Well, that panel took about half a week longer for someone to shop than I expected.

>>51353597
Did I forget to mention Eva?

>>51353621
It's summer. /a/ is full of underage cunts and newfags who are genuinely shocked by normal things.

>>51353627
>This ban isn't going to have any effect on Berserk
Apparently someone never read the author's notes, Berserk is one of the bigger series that was affected because Miura had to start self-censoring.

>moeshit banned

Ishihara is saving anime.

He is the hero we need now that Yamakan went into shadows.

>>51353621

For the better.

You know this is true. Nobody wants to see their little sister character making a slut of herself in front of some dirty twenty-something loser.

FFS people, is artistic freedom that hard to wrap your heads around?

misinformation everywhere

>>51353627
>This ban isn't going to have any effect on Berserk,
Except Berserk was affected. Miura rants about it in the author's forewords, not to mention that image he drew when Bill 156 passed.

>>51353677
As long as governments are allowed to pass subjective "obscenity" laws, there will be no real freedom in anything.

>>51353645
Gundam, Eva, nearly all mecha series have underage protags. Needs more men.

>>51353665
>>moeshit banned
They will ban anything that has violence and minors.
Say goodbye to Gundam, Evangelion and every shonen jump publication.

How will this affect Punpun

>>51353672
>For the better.
How can you say this and post that image at the same time....I'LL FUCKING KILL FOR YOUR MOCKERY

>>51353687

Except you are wrong. The image was about some other law. It didn't passed.

inb4 the entire industry announces they're moving to South Korea.

>Aki-Sora cancelled

Well fuck.

>>51353687
But isn´t Berserk seinen to begin with? Why would Miura start censoring it? I think he is only trying to bias his fans against the law.

I wonder if this affects foreign media too? Shows like South Park and Family Guy will probably be subject to the ban.

>>51353749
It was ending anyway.

Also it is shit.

This is so gay.

Censorship in any form is just gay.

>>51353734
I am okay with this as long they take down moeshit.

I will enjoy my slow paced pretentious animu like Mushishi.

>Keep only romance/moe anime and manga

Anime and Manga = Saved

...meanwhile, in America, the supreme court says violence is not grounds for age-based bans. I guess it sort of evens out?

>>51353742
except you're wrong, this bill 156 is the anti-loli bill which Miura was talking about

>>51353753
Seinen != 18+

>>51353769
>implying the ban will affect moe
>implying moe is shit and not a good thing
>implying Mushishi is pretentious
3/10. Good ideas, horrible execution.

>>51353753
Hey, that's brilliant. He could censor his work and say he was forced to because of the law, and that would be a direct incentive for his fans to take up arms against it.

Berserk is safe because it was classified as "national treasure" and art.

>>51353810
Or maybe he really was forced to censor his manga

>>51353778
but sex is.

>>51353742
It was this image and this bill exactly.

I want you moeshitfags who are ok with this kind of censorship to die in a fire. Fucktards. If I were living in Tokyo I´d write letters complaining about autism in anime being hindering for the intellectual development of my children. Fuck you.

I wish the general otaku populace was a little more loud in their opposition of the loli ban

But they're just so damn shy about it and they'll just let it happen.

"loli" and "moe" aren't story telling categories. it's merely art style and characters. you can remove all that shit and keep making the same stories.

Oh no, the poor lolis!

>>51353785
Except you're wrong again, this ban doesn't ban loli. The loli ban failed sometime last year or the year before. This isn't the same ban resurrected under a different name.

>>51353785

It's not for fuck sake.

Bill 156 - Dec 2010
Miura's image - Jun 2010

Aki Sora being banned feels so bad

YAY! No more incest! That was probably the thing that disgusted me most besides pedo-shit.

>>51353872
"Ok with this"? Not exactly, it's just that there is absolutely nothing that can be done, so why throw a tantrum?

SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING

For all of you talking about how this won't affect "moe", you're missing a huge piece of information. The letter of the law is incredibly vague, so much so, that it could be interpreted as banning anything underage that people could be remotely attracted to. Say goodbye to anything set in a High School.

Also, there's no strict guidelines concerning what really can or can't be banned. Studios could easily donate money to politicians to lobby for their competitor's works to be banned. Say goodbye to quality animation, because their entire budget will now go to paying off politicians.

>>51353898
ummm but thats wrong you fucking retard

>>51353892
No, it's the same bill, it failed to pass the first time then was in fact ressurected and made vaguer, resulting in Bill 156

>>51353843

"possibly", yes.

>This thread

I remember an /a/ that loved loli and now everyone likes that it's getting banned.

What happened to you /a/?

So, how did it go with Aki Sora, and the other confirmed for banned manga?

Did the magazines they ran in just cancel these?

>>51353939

What is wrong? It's not the same bill. The first one anti-loli ban did not passed.

>>51353938
>say goodbye to anything set in a high school

YES

>>51353938
>say goodbye to anything set in a high school

went better than expected.jpg

I'm cool with this law if it gets rid of gayshit and violentshit.

>>51353956
Summer is the answer to that kind of questions.

>>51353892
This bill incorporates the failed loli ban so you're both wrong

>>51353956
Summer happened. The normalfags apparently have more morals than the the rest of us.

>>51353947

And Miura never talked about bill 156.

>>51353898
Note that's only the day Bill 156 was passed, the thing itself existed for up to two years prior

Fuck yeah, all Japanese media will be like a Disney Cartoon!

went better than expected.jpg

Apparently, Mirai-Nikki is getting buttfucked.
Well, anime industry, it was nice knowing you.

>>51353920
Why do you have to be such a huge faggot? Can't you just fuck off to /b/ or some other shit dump? YOU MORALFAGGOTS DON'T EVEN BELONG HERE

>>51353960

>Not set in a highschool
>What the fuck is wrong with you?!

>>51353956

I for myself have always been indifferent about loli stuff. No moralfag here, I just don´t care about it because it´s not one of my fetishes. If companies are forced to make that stuff 18+ and this would result in less being produced, I don´t fucking care. And I´m not summer, I´ve been here for years.

Damnit.

>>51354036
>I just don´t care
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

>>51353956
People are desperate to end this era of SoL (Moe) shows by any means.

And they think this will help. I for one welcome our new adult protag overlords.

>>51354034
>like repetitive highschool setting and DAT chair
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>51353960
Name 30 Good animes that don't have an highscool setting.

>>51354011
Gonna need a source on that, chief.

>>51352576
So how far will this go? Will they (god forbid) take Koe de Oshigoto off because it's illegal for 16 year olds to be VAs?

>Banning pictures that don't have feelings

>>51354087
Name 3 good anime with a high school setting

>>51354109
Haruhi
Bleach
K-On

>>51354109
Eva.
That's enough

>>51354095
I don't know if and how the censorship bill will affect it. He might just have been saying that it's getting buttfucked because Asread is doing the anime.

>>51353956
The lolicons moved to /g/.
It's basically /g/-Techloligy.

>>51354097
Actually, it's not illegal yet, just frowned upon and a legitimate studio would never want to hire someone so inexperienced anyway..

>>51354067
Your analogy is wrong, because it implies that speaking out could do any good. Unless anybody of us lives in Tokyo, it doesn´t have the slightest impact if we whine about the ban.

>>51354126
I said 3 cant you read?

>>51354116
i hope you are trolling

>>51354134

I can think of one series that had a 17yo in the lead role, but that was a marketing gimmick.

>>51354013
U mad? I don't give a fuck about your forever alone lardass basement dwelling tears inducing lolban as long as Berserk doesn't get banned. and I've been here before your mom bought you your first pedo-shit body pillow newfag.

>>51354166
You didn't name the 30 good animes.
so your point is moot.

>>51354177
I can't quite place it, but your post just reeks of faggotry.

>>51353956
Moralfags, moralfags everywhere. They think as long as they've been here for 2 or 3 years (like >>51353956 ), they stop being summer.

But you never stop being summer without the help of /a/ converting you. But /a/ as we knew it no longer exists.

Replace Highschool with University.

>>51354202
>Anime-s
i derped.

>>51354177

Fuck berserk and fuck you. Also nice dubs faggot.

>>51354166
>i hope you are trolling
Of course I am. Well, mostly. I like these shows but despise of the high school cliché. I´m in my 30s and would prefer if the anime industry switched the focus on adult protags or, even better, completely alternate settings.

>>51354158
I quoted your lack of caring for a reason. You don't care, then you fucking deserve whatever comes next that will affect you.

>Oh no, the country on the other side of the globe restricts something I steal from them! What an outrage!

ITT: Lolifags mad noone cares about their shitty fetish.

Just because we aren't into Loli doesn't mean that we are summer. It just means we don't really give a shit because it doesn't have an effect on us.
Is calling us new really all you can use as an insult?

>>51354177
It's funny because the reason that Berserk takes so long to come out is that Miura is playing lolishit games all the time instead of working.

>>51354177 I don't give a fuck about your forever alone lardass basement dwelling tears inducing lolban as long as Berserk doesn't get banned.

Your not too bright are you? Or have you not really read beserk at all? By the letter of the law beserk has many things that will lead to it being banned, maybe the recent chapters have been nothing bad, but if you look back there is LOADS.

Shit, maybe we can get more Space Opera anime.

Seikai no Senki Season 3 fucking when?

>>51351770

Can I be directed to a list of series cancelled?

>>51354274
I have the first vol. of TLRD, my shit is at stake here. Kindly shut the fuck up.

>>51354280
You're an idiot if you believe that this shit will only affect lolicon.

>>51354294

Rape. Something more? Nope.

>>51354303
Yeah, I´d like to know, too. The only thing I heard about was some incest manga I never read.

>>51354326
Rape
Violence
swearing
nudity

>>51354326

Why hasn't this been banned yet?

>Normalfags being delusional and rejoicing with Ishitihara
>Some who don't know what the bill actually does are panicking and being dumb
>Rest who knows better aren't panicking and will expect almost no change whatsoever

>>51354206
>>51354241
I can't quite place it but these posts just reek of butthurt. Mad because the world isn't as fucked up as you are or as you'd like to think it is and that your secret forever alone treehouse is being invaded?

>People seriously upset they might not get their 5 new Modern Japanese Highschool animes next season.

Ban came too late, some people are way too far gone and can't see the genre as anything other than obsessive reality escape material and something to supplement the fact real girls won't talk to them.

>>51354344

Violence? This bill is about sexual content.

>>51354326
theres a fair bit of lolicon and rape in it, some of it by humans and some of it leading to death.

>>51354284
I never said anything about lolishit, just pedoshit. Unless he's virtually raping 3d lolis, I don't give a fuck.

>>51354409
>lolicon

What? Where?

>>51354449
Read it and you will see.

Does this mean that there won't be loli doujins any more? Or are doujinshi safe?

>>51354468
They are safe.

>>51354465
I have dipshit. The only thing that gets close to loli in Berserk is the Lost Children arc.

>>51354438
He's playing Idolmaster, so it's close enough.

>>51354449
Schierke has the hots for Guts, if you didn't notice.

How are things looking for Kodomo no Jikan? ;_;

>>51354294
Everyone loves Berserk. and plus, it's an actual fucking story that goes deeper than just fanservice for the sake of fanservice. and with Miura fagging his time away to Idol Master in his basement it's not like this ban is at the top of my list of worries.

>>51354468
Doujins are safe, because "Doujin publishers are not publishers".

Apparently they want Comiket to continue, so they've given doujins immunity from the law.

>>51354468
Doujins are safe, because they are "underground". Doujinshi sell their stuff at cons or spread it online. The ban might force them to be more careful, use pseudonyms and stuff, but all in all, nothing will change.

>>51354504
OMG I hope they don't censor that. Its like the whole plot or Berserk.

I feel as though I need to finish watching K-ON! Quickly now...that being said...WE should become New Japan! Do it up all Code Geass style

>>51354551
Get the fuck out of here, underage summerfag.

>>51354493
I just want to make it known that this person isn't the original person who said something about foreveralones and Berserk, that was me. and my posts are:>>51354519
>>51354438
>>51354362
>>51354177

>>51352030
Not with an ultraconservative supreme court it's not.

>>51353956
Normalfags equals everyone in here now? I hope you're joking here.

I'm pretty sure the bill doesn't affect r-18 material. And even minding that, it shouldn't have much influence on OVAs. Theoretical movies and broadcast tv anime are a different matter, but seeing some of the line-up for Summer and Fall, I don't think we have to worry about anything...yet.

>>51354578
It changes nothing. You're still a faggot. A selfimportant one at that.

New thread
>>51354603
>>51354603
>>51354603

Why is this a bad thing?

Damn it /a/.... grow up.

K-ON has alrady been approved by him while they banned aki-sora so you do the math

>pedoshit, fanserviceshit, *shit, etc

These threads over the retarded bill always bring out the normalfags and they're so easy to spot. Still waiting on that purge.

Join the new thread, guys. Right now it´s just being spammed by trolls.

>>51350901
I hope it is declare invalid in the future.He sure is happy.The damn cocky look on his face