I for one welcome our new moe overlords.

>madoka
>tremendous success
hahaha no

>>48638526

Are you retarded?

Sorry ain't happening Madoka was just a masterpiece... It's one of those nutty outliers.

>>48638526
Only the third best selling anime of all time.

>>48638526
someone is mad

>>48638550
Sorry faggot, but not every shit show with decent sales can be a trendseyter. madoka is nothing special, deal with it.

>>48638502
Meh, it's not that they don't make shows with girls, but mostly they are on K-On level, and that's the problem with this world basically.

>He doesn't watch precure

>>48638502
No, the new trend will be anime about architecture.

>>48638591
>third

Make it second.

And it can actually surpass NGE.

>>48638615
You do realize, Madoka's sales are way, way above the decent level, right?

The fact that a show sells well doesn't mean that anime will change forever.
BMG didn't change anime forever. Eva didn't really change anime forever either, it's still a pretty unique piece of work over a decade later.
Madoka isn't really all that groundbreaking, either. It's a really well done show, don't get me wrong, but magical girl shows have always had darker themes incorporated into them. Also, Nanoha was subverting MG tropes before Madoka was a glint in Gen's eye.

The seat in the back by the window is in no danger of being left empty.

Maybe after the tremendous success of Madoka SHAFT will hire more staff so their shows will be animated more nicely.

Nothing wrong with K-on... and Yes you clearly don't watch Precure but Suite doesn't have the ommph that Heartcatch did... too much while delicious still too much fighting the Cure Are too op

>>48638502
>search iqdb for a higher res
>highest resolution: 1600×1134
>mfw

>>48638615
>Juuni Suzuki
>Madoka might beat Eva (If it hasn't yet). It's not good for relics of the past to stay at the top forever

Juuni Suzuki:
Eva TV - animation director ep.1,5,7,15,23 key animation ep.9,20, 24,26
Eva TV director cut - director ep.21, animation director ep.21, 23, key animation ep.23
Rebuild 1.0 - chief animation director, key animation
Rebulld 2.0 - design works, animation director, key animation

>>48638684

>Eva didn't really change anime forever either

owaityoureseriousletmelaughharder.jpg

>>48638687
>SHAFT will hire more staff so their shows will be animated more nicely.

One can dream

>>48638684
>subverting tropes
>using TV Tropes speak
NOPE.jpg

>>48638687

They already did.

Look at Denpa.

>>48638644
Pretty Cure is aimed at children.I think what the OP was suggesting is that more studios will create anime with female leads aimed at older audiences.
But what do I know. It's not like I'm the OP or anything.

>Lucky Star is massive success
>More 4 koma manga-to-anime adaptations than ever before.

>>48638778
All of my rage

>>48638774
If there's a show out there that's causing studios to consider adapting more shows with females leads, it's K-ON, not Madoka.

>>48638739
Even Denpa looks pretty shitty compared to most anime coming out today.
I mean seriously, what's up with Shaft's animating style and love of muted colors? You can tell a series is by them from just a few second clip.

>>48638687

Nope. They will waste all money on drugs and alcohol.

>>48638778
>Azumanga is a massive success
Fixed that for you.

>>48638846
This is also true.

>>48638502
That's not how it works. If anything, we'll see more mahou shoujos like Madoka.

Because anime with female MCs aren't already popular, right? And only one type of anime can be popular right? No. In the same season you had Infinite Stratos sell 29k.

Really what I want to see come out of the success of Madoka, as well as other recent and future original hits, is that producers are inspired to look toward making more original anime.

>>48638623
>Meh, it's not that they don't make shows with girls, but mostly they are on K-On level, and that's the problem with this world basically.
No, the only problem here is I see is that you are a narrow-minded faggot, as I see nothing wrong with a "K-ON level" show, whatever that is supposed to mean.

>>48638866

But it was during 2002. During that until 2007, 4 koma adaptations werent very prolific.

>>48638882
Then, more generic mahou shoujo anime like the ones coming out these last 10 years?

And just because something is popular does not mean everyone will try to emulate it. It's not going to be a case where everybody starts making dark Mahou Shoujo anime because Madoka is a hit.

>>48638901
ohboyherewegoagain.mkv

>>48638778
>Lucky Star

You misspelled Azumanga there.

>>48638901
>implying the true MC was not Ichika and that the harem girls are MC-credible
They aren't. They only serve the purpose of either being fanservice or damsel-in-distress.

The reason Ichika is a dense, weakly-built MC is so that the Japanese can project themselves onto him, hence the 30k sales.

>Infinite Stratos sells really good
No OP, they won't

Though, I hope people start giving SHAFT a fucking budget. Madoka has tons of QUALITY and SHAFT needs to outsource to animators/studios for fights. Also, maybe a big budget would allow SHAFT to actually make a 24/26 episode anime.

Madoka invented dark mahou shoujo
Not an opinion, that's a fact
just saiyan

>>48638935
Welp, at least we have Madhouse, right Yotsuba? Cheers!

>>48638983

They are already reqruiting people. nobody wants to join though ;_:

>>48638963
>The reason Ichika is a dense, weakly-built MC is so that the Japanese can project themselves onto him, hence the 30k sales.
If that was true every harem would score 30k easily.

>>48638963
I didn't imply that he wasn't the MC. I was saying he was.

>The reason Ichika is a dense, weakly-built MC is so that the Japanese can project themselves onto him, hence the 30k sales.
And how many harem anime have sold 30k?

>>48639002
Haha.. No.

>>48638963

I think the reason why it sold so much because it was different. It had mecha.

>>48638901
>No, the only problem here is I see is that you are a narrow-minded faggot, as I see nothing wrong with a "K-ON level" show, whatever that is supposed to mean.

Now I'll tell you that I still haven't watched the last ep of K-ON!!. I watched the first to last a few weeks ago, and it was so terrible I couldn't finish the series. I meant this by the K-ON level. It's utter shit, which is not entertaining, unless you don't use your brain at all when you watch a fictional story, you only seek something you can drool over, or wank your jimmy.

>>48638615

>>48639018
>>48639044
They all sell well enough to give them sequels at least.

This one just happened to feature mechs, which is probably why it hit 30k.

The show itself didn't do anything new to the genre. It even had your typical beach episode. It must've been the mechs that got it to sell well.

>>48638901
First, to get it out the way..
Shut up, Yotsuba. Go back to your hole.

Now,
>Really what I want to see come out of the success of Madoka... is that producers are inspired to look toward making more original anime
Not everyone has the clout to go to a studio with an idea and simply a prediction that "this will be good". It's much easier (and safer, for that matter) to animate things that have already been proven to be good, if not at least popular and lucrative. And besides, anime based on adaptations have within them the potential to be just as interesting and compelling to you, the viewer as original anime do. You just have to keep yourself from spoiling the story for yourself, or reading the opinions of people familiar with the source. Difficult, I know, in the age of the internet.

>>48639059

>>48639056
New dark magical girl mecha harem slice of life moe show:

No need for mahou gundam shoujo Mio magica !!!

GREAT SUCCESS

Shaft have been small for a long time, and they still crank out 2-3 shows each season.

Cant wait for the Madoka BD's though, Theyre completely redoing some parts i heard

>>48638918
>During that until 2007, 4 koma adaptations werent very prolific

Lucky Star aired at the same time as Potemayo and Doujin Work and just after Hidamari Sketch.

Are you guys seriously implying that Popularity = Quality?

>>48638901

That's still quite a stretch. The only original anime that have been a huge hit lately were Madoka and Strar Driver.

Everything else bombed hard miserably. Looking at you A-1.

IS sold well because of the girls and fanservice, not the self-insert MC. All a harem needs is good girls, a overrated VA, and tons and tons of fanservice. Throw in some shitty sideplot like mechs and ONLY 1 MALE PILOT then bam its a hit.

>>48639147
If you are not sure, I tell you, you are a tripfag, and that's worse than a troll or being stupid.

Or maybe writers should just make whatever gender main character they want so long as it's a decent show and faggots like OP should shut the fuck up.

>>48638901
>>48638901
>>48638901

>>48639184
Potemayo DVD/BD where ?

Someone say something about female MC's?

>>48639214
Meh, the fanservice is nothing special compared to something like say Quaser.

That show is something that should hit 30k.

It made me lol so very hard at its amazingly borderline-hentai fanservice it managed to get away with just because the MC was a little boy.

>>48639214
Then we can agree the mechs made all the difference.

>>48639290
Post the original, I want to play too.

>>48639298
>IMPLYING

>>48639347

>>48639298
Spin-offs don't count.

>>48639298
You were just a side character in your own show, so shut up, and step aside to make room for Saten.

>>48639388
Thanks bro.

I missed "Bakemonogatari will change the anime industry forever" troll threads so much... It's good we have Madoka now.

>>48639391
Sure they do.

>>48639435
I hope Madoka doesn't even touch BMG's sales. Just so the Madokafags can shut up about it already like we have of BMG.

I have been saying this for a long time. Male main characters are a liability for the show.

Madoka and before that Strike Witches show that. Miyafuji is a much better main character than Ichika, for example.

Female main characters don't need to be weak and dense. They can be as good as the rest of the girls.

>>48639200
Star Diver was barely considered a hit show.

>>48639570
>I hope Madoka doesn't even touch BMG's sales.
There's always the possibility of a miscalculation, but most signs point to Madoka exceeding Bake.

>>48639584
SW is a loli fanservice show so it doesnt matter. IS outsold it by a good margin as well.

>>48639700
The scary thing is I believe Madoka is the reason for Infinite Stratos's popularity

>>48639584
Miyafuij and Ichika are equally shitty characters.

>>48639584
Depends on the genre of the series, and who you are selling it to. Soul Eater has a female MC, and if you disagree you don't know SHIT about Soul Eater. But Soul could just as easily be the MC and be a equally good one.

People bash male MC's just based on harems alone.

>>48639700
They are both the same kind of show.

And SW is from a more expensive line of BD.
PSG is from the same line and its sales of 2000-3000 were considered a huge success

>>48639584
>Male main characters are a liability for the show.

Male characters don't HAVE to be dumb and useless, even in harem shows or shows with harem elements.

Just look at Kyon, or HOUOUIN KYOUMA, or Aikawa Ayumu.

>>48639741
Miyafuji is the worst character in SW, but she is much better than Ichika.

>>48639570
By now it would literally take a disaster to happen.

Yes, another one.

We're past the ending, people liked it, so there's no chance for AB!-style backslash. It's getting sold out everywhere, so there's no chance for the Amazon data that are used to predict the sales to be overblown compared to the rest of the market. Sure, we still know nothing, it could end up selling below 80k, but it's hard to imagine the scenario needed for it to happen.

>>48639823
I don't know how accurate 2ch estimations are but I recall 80K being the number used for Madoka's pre-orders alone.

Did I hear Miyafuji?

>>48639570

We shut up about BMG not because it was bad but because it gets trolled into oblivion whenever it gets brought up.

Madoka threads have actual discussion.

>>48639796
Change the gender of all those characters. Anime improves.

>>48639796
>Just look at Kyon, or HOUOUIN KYOUMA, or
>Aikawa Ayumu.

THIS.

I would love if Kyon slapped Haruhi when filmmaking - maybe she wouldn't be such a bitch afterwards

Aikawa is awesom, also really cute

>>48639853
Everytime I see Madoka ending discussion threads, I want to kill myself. Its the same level of retard that you see on EVAgeeks with their fucking stupid theories.
>hey guys I thought Ma
no, you are fucking retarded. Stop.

>>48639922
You so jelly

>>48639857

HOUOUIN KYOUMA would make a terrible woman, and Ayumu wouldn't be nearly as amusing if he was one.

You've got me on Kyonko, though.

Anyway, my point is that claiming that male leads aren't necessary is nothing but purefaggotry, plain and simple. Many male leads are excellent characters who practically carry the entire show.

>>48639922
>I hate harmless fun
>I hate people who are smarter than me

>>48639857
>Change the gender of all those characters. Anime improves.
Can't argue with you there.

>>48639922
BAAAAWWWWWW STOP TALKING ABOUT WHAT I DONT LIKE

guide to avoid buthurt: HIDE, MOVE ON

>>48639796
>kyon
>beta faggot constantly manipulated by huruhi
>good

>ayumu
>generic bland MC that dresses like a girl
>good

Rintaro is cool.

Remember when male protagonists were masculine, confident, and daring?

City Hunter remembers.

the only reason you see shitty self insert male lead is because the authors can't think of any cleaver and well written characters, so they opt for the standard way of making a generic/shitty character, at least that way things will sell.
some anime just don't have that much effort and attention invested in them. sorry but that's just how things are.

>>48639983
I think you need a new partner

>>48639002
>hasn't seen utena
>hasn't read the sailor moon manga, and even the series had its fair share of grimdark
>hasn't seen nanhona

>>48639967
>implying I didn't like Madoka
Its just the fanbase has hit EVAgeeks level of retard.
>>48639959
Hating fun is something everyone /a/ does.

shitty self insert female teenagers instead of shitty self insert male teenagers.

>>48638502

Why does everyone piss their pants over female MC's?

Male MC's are the best if they're actually done well and not just shitty whiny teenagers

>>48639200
>Star Driver
>hit show
>being compared to Madoka

wut

>>48638963

But the damsel in distress in that series was Ichika.

>>48639981
>Kyon
>beta
>implying he isn't just lazy, that he doesn't get shit done when he has to and that the introspection scene in Disappearance wasn't the best thing to ever happen in anime for all time, ever

>Ayumu
>generic and bland
>implying he didn't kick a fucking whale's head off
>implying he isn't more manly because he does manly things while dressing like a girl

>>48640020
Yuri goggles.

>>48639922
Uh oh, u mad. You should have that butthurt looked at by a professional.

>yfw

>>48640020

I dunno, Denpa Onna's lead is pretty cool so far and he's a teenager.

>>48639125
Of course it's not going to be a situation where everything suddenly becomes original series, but it is one where these producers may be more willing to sponsor them seeing the success of stuff like Angel Beats and Star Driver and obviously Madoka.

Just the fact that anime sales are higher all around now, where you have many different series doing 10, 20, 30k+ means more money is flowing around and series have higher sales potential.

It's not to imply that being an adaptation prevents an anime from being great as many of my favorites are adaptations, or anime will not always be intertwined with manga, but it would just be nice to see more original franchises and I see that as a possibility.

>>48639200
Also, AB. I believe I'm missing something. Either way before that the amount original franchise hits of the last several years you count on one hand. I need to look at the numbers.

>>48639225
lol actually it isn't. Nice try though.

>>48639981
>kyon
>beta faggot constantly manipulated by huruhi

Kyon saving the world, kissig the girl, timetravelling, waking emotions in 'digital' alien
ALPHA AS FUCK


>ayumu
>generic bland MC that dresses like a girl
that's part of his charm, also chainsaw and Mistletien (sp?) KICK


>Rintaro is cool.
no arguing about that, just a reminder that if your pet MC is cool others can be also cool, it's not highlander - there can be only one

>>48639002
>Madoka invented dark mahou shoujo

Doesn't know that Japan has a shitload of VNs with dark mahou shoujo as the focus long before Madoka even aired.

Lurk moar, faggot.

>>48639290
oh hey four in a row whats next-
>banned
OH BOY
Looks like bingo tonight boys.

>>48640102

AB was a critical disaster, though. Only reason it sold so well is because of Tenshi.

>>48640104
THATS NOT A KICK

>>48640159
No, not really, Thats just you grasping at straws and to accepting it was a great show. Much better than madoka too.

>>48640015
>Its just the fanbase has hit EVAgeeks level of retard.

generalizing about whole fanbase from couple of retard posts

what about the guys that broke the runes, made the fanart, wiki, imagecollection, music ?

how about this: 30% of EVERY fanbase are RETARDS

BIG fanbase means MORE retards

>>48639002
>Madoka invented dark mahou shoujo
>Not an opinion, that's a fact

Are Madokafags always this retarded?

>>48640186

Sup.

goddamn it

at least admit it that you guys only want female MCs because it would make a show more fappable for you

>>48640186
LoGH, HnK and Berserk begs to differ.

SAGARA MOTHER FUCKING SOUSUKE

>routinely guns down entire platoons of enemies
>has the balls to fucking shoot his bed-ridden bitter rival to death
>kills a squad of commandos after nearly dying and being asleep/drugged for a month
>Spoilers so long I don't even have time to type them all out, but holy shit. Read the novels - this mother fucker is a beast.

>>48640202
see
>>48640186

>MCs
the word you wanted was "protagonists"

you shitty self-insert male teenager

(lol, high-school students write the anime/vn/manga scenarios in Japan? no wonder they all seem like goofy student efforts)

>>48640180
>Angel Beats
>inconsistent plot
>inconsistent characterization
>everything after Otonashi's flashback clearly made up on the spot
>better than Madoka

>>48640231
>has the balls to fucking shoot his bed-ridden bitter rival to death
sure is brave to kill an dying guy that almost cant move.

>>48640159
>AB was a critical disaster, though.
lol says who?

>>48640202
read
>>48640186
and click
>>48640207

>>48639002
>this dumb cunt doesn't know about Mahou Shoujo Ai.

>>48640035
Star Driver was definitely a hit, the BDs are moving well enough, but I don't think I'd call it "huge".

>>48640221
>implying those have big fanbases

Try something like Haruhi or TTGL. Also Berserk at least does have annoying faggots in the fanbase, they're the ones making "LOL MANLY THREAD."

>>48640254
You can't name a single other protagonist who would actually kill a man face to face.

>>48640260
Its about the same as every Bones original anime except Heroman. That bombed pretty hard, even if it was decent after you made it out of the Skrugg arc

>>48640186
>30% of EVERY fanbase are RETARDS

More like 90%

>>48640221
Also, a similarly high percentage is delusional.

>>48640255

...People who know the difference between a good anime and a fucking stupid one?

>>48640180
>Angel Beats
>Better than Madoka

No, and I liked Angel Beats.

>>48640159
AB's plot probably would have fared much better as the 2-cour show it was intended to be from the start, I think.

>>48640278
This is why i hate moefags.
No
Fucking
Knowledge

>>48640278
Sup

>Maybe after the tremendous success of Lucky Star they will finally start making more series with female MC's instead of shitty self insert male teenagers.

>Maybe after the tremendous success of K-ON they will finally start making more series with female MC's instead of shitty self insert male teenagers.

Look at Madokafags thinking their series is so unique that groups of moe girls as MC was never done before.

>>48640260
With very little mainstream fujoshi material on the market I'm not surprised it's selling well, they are capitalizing on a small but mostly untapped market.

>>48640258
Because tentacle hentai with girl that flushes out demon sperm in park with drinking fountain is such a good example

i think that the one you were replaying to is stupid or troll but your reply doesn't make sense also

>>48640299

It would have fared much better if Otonashi didn't exist, if it had adapted and expanded upon the plot from the prequel light novels, and if they were actually trapped in some kind of virtual simulation and not the actual afterlife which can somehow be hacked by a lonely autistic girl god damn it this show made no sense.

This thread is bad, and you should feel bad for your blatant noobery.

>>48640337
>dat "angel"
Highlight of the show.
And TK.

>>48640321
...we all know about Azumanga ripoffs, but how about other genres?

>>48640288
I don't believe you to be one of those people.

>>48638935
Why would they make something like Madoka? I guarantee that will flop so hard that the project will be that company's last. I don't think people are liking this show because it's magical girls, it's DESPITE it being about magical girls.

>>48638502
male or female it is the same

>>48640366
Or you.

>>48640278
>You can't name a single other protagonist who would actually kill a man face to face.

Shichika says hi.

no reaction...lol

okay, what the fuck, are all the responses being copy-pasted in from notepad, by the same two aspies, or what is happening in this thread?

>>48640321
>lucky star and k-shit

AHAHAHAHAHAHA FAGGOT

>>48640366

Well, I liked Madoka and thought that K-On was well-made if extremely boring. Do I have good taste now?

>>48640356

You mean Magical girl shows? because there are rarely male MCs on those. OP's statement would even more misguided.

>>48640336
The stupid cunt claimed that Madoka invented dark mahou shoujo. I provided an example of one that existed well before Madoka. Whether or not it's porn is irrelevant. It's a show about a magical girl, and it's dark as fuck.

>>48640255
AB could have been good, but they fucked up and made it 13 episodes instead of 24-26 so the ending was rushed and pathetic. Having the character literally just say goodbye and disappear of their own free will right in front of each other made me rage. There was also something wrong with yuri being less important than even secondary characters.

Up until about episode 7 or 8 it was pretty good though, but it should have been 24 to 26 episodes.

tbh I like Madoka just because its from gen other than that its kinda boring like Fractale

>>48640420
>I fell for a troll so fucking hard
Well okay then.

>>48640434

It was good up until the Shadows.

I mean, what the fuck? Where did those even come from? I'd accept 'glitch in the program', but what program, it's the fucking afterlife, how is there a program, why didn't Akira Ishida actually explain any of this shit in that fucking infodump of his god damn it no fucking sense.

>>48640159
>implying producers care about critical success
They just want to make shitloads of money.

>>48640278
>You can't name a single other protagonist who would actually kill a man face to face.

Did someone call Dr. House?

lol, reported for being just plain strange ON THE INTERNET

>>48640434
The pacing was the least of AngelBeats! problems. It was just poorly written as a whole.

>>48640492
THIS.
And it's not even murder its SCIENCE !!!

>>48640278
>You can't name a single other protagonist who would actually kill a man face to face.

>My face when this anon is simply deluded.

>Angel Beats
>better than anything
>implying the good moments of the show couldn't be fit into a thirty second clip

>>48640606
>>48640542
We could go on forever about how wrong that guy is.

>>48640321

LS and K-On are in 30-40k sales range.

Madoka is in 100-150k sales range.

>>48640221
>LoGH, HnK and Berserk begs to differ.

I love all 3 shows.
But their fanbase is not really any better than any other.

Berserk has all those kids complaining about moe and the "new" chapters because they are "HARDCORE MANLY MEN THAT WANT TO SEE GORE AND FAP TO BEHEADINGS".

LOGH has a big percentage of pretentious faggots in the fanbase. "Guys, I like LOGH. That means I can't like any other kind of show and I'm superior to everyone else. Hahaha, you only like inferior shows". Once I got so pissed off with one of them (not on /a/, elsewhere) that I pretty much spoiled the entire freaking anime to him (he was in the middle of it)

>>48640492

He killed his waifu, not some other guy.

>>48640751
>mfw i was spoiled on entire LoGH before watching it and didnt care, still watched it
LoGH and Berserk threads are filled with gentlemen with a limited amount of roaming trolls.

>>48640875
>>48640875
Spoiling never actually mattered much to me. I am there for the journey, not the destination.

>>48640852
>his waifu
>waifu
Its called WIFE.
Waifu is just a cartoon that you stalk in your minds like "girls" do to that twilight character.

>>48640751 LOGH has a big percentage of pretentious faggots in the fanbase

This is true. MAL and AniDB are full of them. I love the anime but fuck it if LoGH doesn't attract the pretentious elitist fucknuts.

>>48641003
>MAL
>AniDB
Found your problem.

>>48641037
Which isn't saying much since I'm sure most of those faggots browse /a/, too.

>>48641037
/a/ also has some of them.

I remember once a thread that started with

"FUCK YOU, /a/, YOU HAVE SHITTY TASTES. HERE IS A LOGH THREAD BECAUSE I HAVE GREAT TASTES UNLIKE YOU IDIOTS"

And the thing is, he actually got surprised that people called him on his faggotry

Well...Maeda did get fucked pretty hard by the network with Angel Beats


But none of that matters considering hes basically the Nicholas Sparks of anime

>>48641080
Im surprised anons are so easily trolled.
Back in my days, we just ignore such obvious trolls.

>>48641037
MAL has a "i'm a fucking elitist faggot" club, where everyone has to fap to LoGH for initiation, which pretty much has 4chan's "SUPER SECRET CLUB" mentality.

>>48641112
It was a normal LOGH thread. And they got really surprised that people were mad with them

"/a/ is trolling a LOGH thread? How can you do that? Guys, ignore the trolls and let's talk about Yang Wenli and our Kaiser?"

>>48641126
really? Well at least someone did one thing right on MAL.

>>48641003
It tends to attract the "REMEMBER WHEN ANIME WAS GOOD" faggots.

>>48641126
>fap to LoGH
>only two women in it
OH BOY

>>48639747 People bash male MC's just based on harems alone.

That's the thing, though. Regardless of what the genre is, nine times out of ten a series with a male MC feels the need to add "Oh, and also three to six girls want his cock" to the end of their premise.

Most straight men who have successful lives and regularly have sex prefer male MC's. /a/ prefers female MC's. Why the discrepancy?

>>48641213
Normalfag... Get out of /a/

>>48638502
>Maybe after the tremendous success of Madoka they will finally start making more series with female MC's instead of shitty self insert male teenagers.

Too bad those MC will be humongous fags. I don't see why wimpy little girls should be the MC in more shows.
But hey, maybe you can connect to little girls?

>>48641126

Is the common opinion on /a/ that LotGH is shit?

>>48641213

Clearly /a/ wants to be the little girl.

>>48641276
I think thats the idea. If you cant fap to that you can fap to anything anime related.

>>48641276
You're in a Madoka thread, did you honestly expect the fans of that show to appriciate LotGH? They're most likely the same crowd that thought Infinite Stratos was amazing as well.

>>48641213
Most straight men who have successful lives and regularly have sex prefer not to fag up the place with cancer. You prefer to be a tumor. Why the discrepancy?

In before some pussy cop-out about you trolling, instead of just being notably stupid.

>>48641304
IS was shit. Where is your god now? My god is fighting for me.

>>48641276

Obviously people are complaining about some members of the LoGH fanbase, like this faggot >>48641304 right here, than about the actual show.

Not only harem would be improved with female main characters.

Most other kinds of manga/anime would as well.

>>48641276
No, but a part of the fanbase is shit.
Like in every other fanbase, there are good fans and bad fans.

>>48641343
>for me
>implying you are a magical girl

>>48641366
>harem better with a female lead

HAHAHA No.
See every shitty shoujo manga ever.

>>48641366
>Not only harem would be improved with female main characters.

Tell me, what shows would be improved by a generic loli as the protagonist?

>>48641390
>implying im not

>>48641391
???
I'm talking about harem anime for males.
Not reverse harem anime.

>>48641321

>Most straight men who have successful lives and regularly have sex prefer not to fag up the place with cancer.

This is a nonsensical statement. "cancer"? If by virtue of being a man who is successful and who has actually seen a vagina in his lifetime I am ruining the atmosphere of /a/ than you have much more issues to deal with than a simple question. If your dream in life is to be a little girl in thigh-highs and a short skirt that's perfectly fine. Just don't question why most men prefer to have MC's that they can relate to.

>>48641391
I think he means yuri harem. Which might be ok but I haven't seen many.

>>48641406
>generic loli

Ive fapped to a million lolis and not a single one of them was generic.

>>48641304
>They're most likely the same crowd that thought Infinite Stratos was amazing as well.
Are you new, or is your memory just that bad? I won't say there wasn't anyone who enjoyed both, but last season Madoka fans and IS fans were for the most part at odds with each other. They were two sides of the /a/ spectrum.

>>48641407
>>implying I don't want to fight demons alongside you

>>48641442
shounen vs seinen. Its always been this way. Kids need to fuck off back to gaia.

>>48641413
Are you fucking retarded?

The entire point of harem shows is for you to basically "pretend" to be the MC.
What the fuck would pretending to be a girl improve for a straight male?

>>48641375
>>48641363
This

>>48641466
haha ohh wow

You have not been on /a/ very long have you.

>>48641436
So you're saying Madoka was unique? That kind of characters has been done to death.

>>48641432
You are ruining the atmosphere of /a/ by bringing that which has nothing to do with anime into the board. If you can't understand why you're retarded for that purpose, you're a lot cause.

>>48641504
Every one of them.

>>48641406
Most shonen stuff (regardless of genre)
Evangelion
Spice and Wolf
Working

>>48641484
>You have not been on /a/ very long have you.

I said straight males.

>harem better with female protag
Only one show did it good.
Lets see if anyone remembers it: KAKA HAREM

>>48641545
You have not been on /a/ very long, I see

>>48641545
>He really has not been on /a/ for very long

>>48641505

As opposed to the foreveralone threads about how you've been rejected by a girl for the nth time which regularly garner 200+ posts? You sure are selective about which elements of non-anime you allow on the board.

It is a fact that normalfags don't belong on /a/.
Low powerlevels, opposition to lolis
They just don't fit with the rest of the board

>>48641532
So shit shows? Wow, let's pour some mint sauce over poop. That pile of poop sure became edible for non shit eaters!

>>48641593
>implying im not a normalfag with a hugepowerlevel and loves loliporn, drawn or real.

>>48641610
>implying shounen is shit

>>48641610
Are you saying all of those are shit shows?

>>48641567
>>implying I don't report those threads when I see them
>>implying you aren't fucking retarded for saying that one person acting stupid is justification for yourself to do the same

>>48641562
>>48641564
Fuking idiots, work those braincells. In other words NO ONE on /a/. Not some fags that dream about being a little japanese girls in a frilly dress getting fucking by a big old hairy nigger.

>>48641610
>>48641633
>>48641635

Do people really get baited this easily?

>>48641650
You have not been very long on /a/, I see

>>48641650
Welcome to /a/, enjoy your stay.

>>48641633
>implying shounen is shit

Most of it is shit. There are always exceptions like Hajime no Ippo, but that show would not be improved by having Madoka as the main character. That is unless you simply prefer lolis over anything, despite it not adding (or maybe even ruining) something. That's called thinking with your dick.

Straight males like shows with male MC's that they can relate to.

Closet homosexuals like female MC's so they can imagine themselves getting railed while dressed in a frilly skirt.

>>48641650
>Not some fags that dream about being a little japanese girls in a frilly dress getting fucking by a big old hairy nigger.

You must be new here.

>>48641669
Shounen demographic, you do the math.

>>48641650

>getting fucking by a big old hairy nigger

That's not the only thing you can do as a loli.

>>48641728

>Most of it is shit.

You could say that about anything ever. Stop being dumb.

>>48641635
>Are you saying all of those are shit shows?

The ones he mentioend, yeah. They're all below average.

You can be a lesbian, too you know?

>>48641532
Spice and Wolf is Seinen.

Take Working.
Now Katanashi is his girl version (the one he becomes after cross dressing, but a real girl).
Katanashi falls in love with Poplar and Poplar falls in love with Katanashi.

Inami now likes somewan else that she beats up constantly.

>>48641644

Another childish argument. I only brought up my personal life because I was genuinely surprised that a male that did not have some traumatic childhood experience would relate better to a middle-school aged female MC than a man like themselves. It's just as /a/ related as threads discussing anime experiences with your families or your friends.

>>48641733
Straight males like shows with female MCs, so that they can fap to them
Homos like shows with hot bishies, so that they can fap to them

>>48641672
>>48641709
>>48641735
You're aware I was indirectly agreeing with you from the get-go? You're aware that you simply come off as assclows with zero comprehension?

>>48641827
The main character in the show doesn't need to be a self insert of the viewer

>>48641728
>implying some of the greatest shows arent shounen
HnK
GTO
Cromartie
Sakigake

>>48641532
You think young males would prefer to follow a little girl as the main character?

That'd be some really strange young boys then, since that in itself is unnatural.

>>48641835
You mad?

>>48641792

The categorization doesn't change a thing about it being loldeep emoshit with a generic reset end and plain as fuck characters only furfags ever liked.
Actually, 50% of the bad things about the show is the furfag roleplaying fanbase.

>>48641890
Why is that unnatural?

>>48641890
Hmm. I think the idea is that if Shounen had loli MCs that us oldfags could relate to it more and Enjoy more Shounen. Fuck the actual demographic viewers, they will enjoy what we tell them to enjoy and enjoy it.

>>48641834
>Straight males like shows with female MCs, so that they can fap to them

I like non-annoying and preferably strong (as in not overemotional) protagonists. Most female main characters are not this, thus they are shit and are for fucking fags.

I'd have no problem with female main characters if they were more like say Balsa.

>>48641827
Made yourself just a little too obvious there. You first bait got me, so kudos for that, but you aren't being consistent enough with your line of logic. Still, I responded a few times:

3/10

>>48641952
>I like non-annoying and preferably strong (as in not overemotional) protagonists.
And I suppose most male main characters are like this?

>>48641934
>adult man relate easier to little girls
>wtfamireading.avi

I'm not talking about you /a/tards here, either.

>>48641999
How are you enjoying /a/? Is it to your liking?

>>48641934
>oldfags
>loli mc
They didnt exist in such grand numbers as they do today.
>oldfags relate more to shounen if it had more loli mcs
You are a moeblob, not an oldfag.

also
>yfw one piece, a shounen, have its major viewerbase in the range of mid 20s to mid 30s

>>48641862
Cool. You translate "a few" to "most"?

>>48642043
>You are a moeblob, not an oldfag

Fuck I wish this was true. I would spend the first 3 days sitting in front of a mirror masturbating and figuring out my new equipment. After that I would go looking for the cutest ensemble possible. Something with frills and lace. Im not sure about panties or not. It would be great to walk around in short skit with no panties and trip every now and then giving everyone a show and play it off like im a klutz.

Nanoha is shonen or seinen?

>>48641931
>Why is that unnatural?

How often do you see young males liking girls? Hanging out with girls at a young ages is often considered to be uncool, as is getting one to be your girlfriend. Have you never even heard of cooties or the like before? Have you even experienced youth? Have you met young males?

Have you ever coincided the fact that you relate better to little girls than to men with your virginity /a/?

>>48641996
>And I suppose most male main characters are like this?

Swapping them for (young) girls in japanese media would not push them in that direction, more like the opposite.

Many also seem confused as to what a strong female is, some dumb people think that the girls in Sucker Punch are "strong females" because derp they can fight.

>>48642142
Seinen according to wikipedia. Its certainly not targeted at the usual viewer base, little girls. However for a seinen it has a lot of shounen qualities.

>>48642034
>How are you enjoying /a/? Is it to your liking?

I don't even understand what you mean.

Strong sexually empowered female characters you say?

>>48641827
Because we don't WANT to see self-insert MCs. We don't want to see characters that are the same gender and of a similar-age range to the target demographic for no other reason than "it's easier for our intended audience to relate to them. We want to be able to relate to OTHER aspects of main characters - and the first step to doing that is to either change the gender or the age (or both) of the MC while retaining the same demographic. It's that simple.

>>48642142
Nanoha is seinen, it's obviously targeted at older males

>>48642139
>ensemble

Hell, I wasn't aware of this meaning of the word until I checked a dictionary, so at first I thought you intend to go out and gather a group of similar moeblobs to eat cake and drink tea with. Which I guess one should also do in this situation.

>>48642192
Are Nanoha, Misaka or Yoshika (I suppose three of the most famous main characters of action anime) weaker emotionally than most male main characters?

>>48642250
Exactly. We don't want to see self insert characters.

>>48642249
Ikki tousen.
It was good, but /a/ bashed it.
Mostly because it wasnt about cute girls doing cute things but about strong women.

>>48642250
I dont know about you but I rarely see a self insert MC in any anime. The last time I saw a self incert MC was Tears to Tiara. Do real people actually identify with the MC from these shows?

>>48642343
You may need to read more shonen. Shoujo does it too, with female MCs, of course.

>>48642267
You didnt know what ensemble means? But yes, gathering other like minded lolis would be on my list. Then I would corrupt them and use them for sex then discard them when they were no longer lolis.

no, it was about tits

>>48642285
Why are you saying something so vague as "most"? Most in what? Compared to who?

There are (by far) more strong male main characters than there are female ones. Female ones are rare enough, but strong ones? Wow, that's an extreme minority.

And even when you count the stronger female characters, they are often weaker than males by leaps and bounds.
And again, don't confuse power level with being strong of character.

>>48642339
>strong women

And their outfits showed all of their strenghts, too.

>>48642379
Ive watched Shonen, I cant identify with any of them either. They are morons. Also Tears to Tiara is seinen.

You know guys, it was a cool anime and a good ending, but somehow i didn't like it.
I think they forgot that one of the more painful feelings in the world is when a parent loses his/her son, and in the anime were like " Oh yeah, cool" and shit.

And fucking stupid Sayaka still sacrificing herself for that mothefucker

>>48642419
Fanservice.
And dont act like you dont love fuckloads of shows with heavy fanservce.
/a/ fucking thrives on fanservice

>>48642250

To be completely honest, I usually watch a show for the main character. Cowboy Bebop, the Big O, Darker than Black and Macross Frontier had me hooked, because I really liked the male lead. This season, besides Madoka, pretty much the only show I watched was Tiger & Bunny- Despite T&B's obvious flaws, Kotetsu is likeable enough that it's interesting to watch him.

I personally didn't like Angel Beats, because the show had no consistency, and made NO FUCKING SENSE. Also, Infinite Stratos was fun in a shallow way, but I got up to Episode 4 before dropping it- Because it was a painfully generic harem show along the lines of, say, Omamori Himari.

I dunno, but I'd much, much prefer a strong main character to a show.

For example: I'm not a fan of the Dance in the Vampire Bund manga. I've never even read it, and I don't like the loli theme. But I watched the whole anime for Akira- He *looked* good, and wasn't particularly dense, while I couldn't stand Mina!

So yeah, to me, the main character is an important factor in whether I stick with a show. If I don't care about what happens to the bastard, why am I even bothering?

>>48642433
That's because it's shonen. And you aren't 14 years old. I hope.

>>48642460
You confuse strong women with women that fight.

>>48642250

"Self-insert" =/= someone we can relate to dipshit. I don't watch anime with middle-school girls because they're fucking middle-school girls and I don't understand or have any desire to understand their psyche. I watch anime with male MC's because I relate to their decisions and actions and it makes for a more engaging story. I'm also loling at your attempts at rationalization, as if you don't just watch them to fap at every glimpse of thigh you get. The pin-ups that Megami puts out for these shows also don't add much weight to your cause.

>>48642390
Well, I'm not a native speaker and not into fashion, so I've never seen it used to mean anything but "a musical band".

>>48642414
I'm not talking about power levels, I'm talking as a person.
Those are 3 of the most high profile female main characters in anime. Are they really weaker than the average male main character of a high profile action anime?

Is Nanoha weaker emotionally than... Luffy?

>implying shows about cute girls doing whatever cute or not are not popular already
>implying they don't remove males because lol purity

>>48642478
Tears to Tiara is seinen and you are retarded. I hope.

>>48642469

/thread.

This man speaks the goddamn truth. (Though DiTVB was way too loli for me to consider watching.)

>>48642490
>middle-school girls
>fucking middle-school girls

I wish to watch the same thing you watched.

>using shounen as a genre
the fuck....

>>48642484
>women who can fight and defeat men who are seen as kings arent strong
>lolfeminist

>>48642469
>>48642490

Wow.
I didn't know there were people that watch shows due to that.

I couldn't give less of a shit if the character is in any way similar to me.
The main character can be a fat black woman living in a neighborhood I would avoid at all costs for all I care. Or a gay guy that grew up in a mining town. Or a female pony in a magical land. If the show has an interesting plot or cool action or likeable characters or whatever, I will watch it.

I doubt I would watch a show about a graduate student in Economics in his mid 20s

>>48642490
>"Self-insert" =/= someone we can relate to dipshit.
>I watch anime with male MC's because I relate to their decisions.

Ohh wow.

>>48642502
... so you are comparing magical girls and shit to the big 3?

Holy shit, are you for real?

>>48642625
you say that but i bet your favourite shows are all the same shit

>>48642625

yeah because you watch shows with fat black women.

>>48642645
No.
You can compare with other shows as well.
Nanoha is as strong as any male main character in action anime, unless we are comparing her to psychopaths

>>48642633

Are you fucking retarded? Do you not know what =/= means?

>>48642655
MY favorite shows are The Slayers, Read or Die, Clannad, Gun Grave and K-ON.
>all the same shit

>>48642625

How are any of those characters similar to a typical /a/ watcher? I might be wrong, but I doubt any of us are, say, bounty hunters or badass Chinese assassins. The point is, they're male leads who're mostly competent, and fairly mature as individuals. The kind who don't end up accidentally groping a girl, or faceplanting into her panties all the goddamn time.

>>48642713
I dont think you know what It means, or you dont understand my post or what you even wrote.

>>48642598
So a weak-willed fag is a strong of will character because his powerlevel is maximum? Ok.

Call me when you want to start making sense.

>>48642655
??
I like all kinds of anime. And of other shows as well.
I don't just watch anime because the main character remind me of myself.

>>48642676
You don't?
You only watch shows with straight males?

>>48642684
>Nanoha is as strong as any male main character in action anime, unless we are comparing her to psychopaths

Haha oh wow. I'm not even gonna bother to argue anymore with someone so hardcore delusional. You will be too stubborn to admit to your own stupidity anyway.

That's quite honestly the funniest shit I've ever heard, to even remotely call Nanoha a strong character is AAA class humour.

>>48642721
Again, I don't give a damn if there is any similarity between me and the main character.
I can enjoy something like "The Blind Side" even if I have really, really nothing in common with Michael Oher or his adoptive mother.

>>48642734

I said a character does not have to be a "self-insert" for me to relate to him. Was that too complex for you?

>>48642779
Nanoha is not a strong character?

>>48642490
But WHY do you relate to those male MCs? Is it just because they are male? Is that all that's required for you to relate to them? If one of those MCs suddenly became female but retained the back-story, attitude, personality and decision of that male MC, would you then be unable to relate to her? If so, then you aren't really relating to the CHARACTER, are you. I will agree that, being male myself, male MCs ARE easier to relate to. However, if the only reason I'm able to relate to them is because they're the same gender as me, then they aren't a very well constructed character.

>this thread

>>48642825
>I watch anime with male MC's because I relate to their decisions and actions and it makes for a more engaging story.

Blanket statement. Learn to write kid.

>>48642736
Theres... one character that have weakminded moments, and thats when talking to the guy that she loves.
You obviously didnt watch the show.

>>48642859
I think it means he is awkward around girls and gets nose bleeds when a girl gets within 3 feet of him.

>>48642825
And then you went on to state that you can only relate to male characters because you're male yourself. Do you see what he's pointing out here yet?

>>48642906
I think he is still looking up "blanket statement" to find out what it means.

There are countless ways a MC can reference a part of our psyche or life, so we can relate to him/her.

Not as who he/she is, but to what he/she represents, or makes us think about.

From lolis to grown men

Just sayin'

>>48642903
I never understood this whole nosebleed business.
I can understand guys getting flustered and blush around sexy women, but nosebleed?
My blood goes to my dick.

>>48642880
Again, you don't understand what a strong character is.

>>48643087
More like you dont.
Spewing vague bullshit without any backup, thinking you are YotsubaC.

>>48643069
>"Aogami," his grandpa began, "Do you know why Japanese men get a nosebleed when they are aroused?"

>Pierce shook his head.

>The older man nodded and began his drunken tirade, "It all began back in the day of the ninja. You see Aogami, there wasn't any TV or computers back then. It really sucked ass to live back then. The only way for a man to satisfy his natural manly desires was to peak on the beautiful kunoichis while they bathed."

>The man paused to collect his thoughts, then continued, "But this was a dangerous path to take, Aogami. The kunoichis quickly caught on to such things, and would chase the noble ninjas to the death. Now, this normally wouldn't have been a problem for the average ninja. They were just as skilled at escape as the kunochis. But this was different situation. Can you guess why they couldn't escape as easily?"

>Again, Pierce shook his head. His grandfather let loose a long, mournful sigh before he spoke again.

>"You can't run too well with a raging hard on, Aogami. The ninja would pop a boner, get spotted, and be chased down since he couldn't go his usual speed. It was dark times, Aogami. Many a man were castrated in those days for harmless voyeurism."

>>48643159
>He stopped to take another gracious swig of saki. When he finished, his was smiling bleary eyed at Aogami.

>"But then a break through happened. The ninjas thought of a special method to keep mentally aroused, yet not by hindered by it physically. You see Aogami, when you pop a boner, all the blood rushes to your money-maker, right? So then it only stands to reason that if you divert the blood elsewhere, you won't get hard. So the ninjas trained themselves to shoot the blood out of their nostrils instead, which also acted as a distraction method if you managed to nail your pursuers in the eyes with it. They could continue their manly pursuits and get away with it, free from the claws of those vindictive harpies. Over time, this became so common place that we natural evolved into doing this, and is thus why we all get nosebleeds when we do something perverted."

>>48643113
A strong main character is not simply a derpy character that doesn't whine constatly and is super strong.

A perfect example of a strong and female character is The Boss from MGS3.
Your example of strong females are not even comparable.

>>48643069

I suppose that they really don't want to have to draw a guy with an obvious boner.

>>48643182
How about giving an example from an anime, since this is an anime board.

>>48643159
>>48643177
Well, I guess that explains everything.

>>48643182
>strong isnt someone who doesnt whine constantly and is strong
Sounds suspicious.
>The Boss from MGS3.
>because she have authority
oh.. a feministfag.
Done wasting my time here.

>>48643287
>How about giving an example from an anime, since this is an anime board.

Balsa.

And also, you can't tell if a character is strong or not if they never run into any hardships (as in major ones).

>>48643320
>because she have authority
>oh.. a feministfag.
>Done wasting my time here.

Please don't tell me you're this mentally handicapped.

Do I really need to bring up why The Boss is strong for your retarded ass? It blows my mind how you latched on the the most unimportant aspect.

>>48643320
>>48643182
Here, let me help the two of you

>>48643400
Yes, i never played Metal Gear Solid so i should know about its characters that arent snake while im on a MANGA AND ANIME board.
And you call me retard.

Someone call for strong female characters?

>>48642490 is back. Don't you worry your pretty little heads.

>>48642859

Yes it is easier to relate to male MC's. Just like it's easier for a little girl to relate to female MC's. I'm not saying it's impossible to like anime that has a female MC (I like the requisite Ghibli films for example) but to actively prefer these shows, to want to "become the little girl" as the saying goes is neither enviable nor a position to take pride in.

>>48642873

How is a statement referring only to myself and no one else a blanket statement you fucking moron? At least quote the right post.

>>48642906

Yes I understand his point. Refer to the first part of this post.

>>48643532
>How is a statement referring only to myself and no one else a blanket statement you fucking moron? At least quote the right post.
>after 30 minutes doesnt know what a blanket statement is.

ohh wow

>>48643532
>Yes I understand his point. Refer to the first part of this post.

What does you being back have to do with his post?

Some people here probably write fanfictions with Mary Sue-ish characters by the looks of it.

>>48643493
So you make a statement as if you KNEW the character when you don't?
Congrats, you are officially an idiot!

And since I don't reward or waste time on idiots, you'll have to do the research yourself.

http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/The_Boss

>>48643629
There is more than one person that responded to that post btw, just thought you should know before you make an even bigger ass of your self.

I will never understand people that only watch stuff with self-insert characters

>>48643532
We don't necessarily want the MCs to be little girls. It's just that having more anime featuring the MC as a little girl while retaining the demographic for teenage boys will mean the creators will have to work extra hard for the target audience to relate to them. That's a good thing.

>>48643629
Hey femifag - get out.

>>48643699
Me either. I could never self insert with any of the jerks they toss in to anime these days. Ill never understand the wimpy bitches that could.

Lets say they made an MC that I could identify with, would you really want to be surrounded by retarded and or stuck up violent girls 24/7? Could you even self insert in to the situation?

>>48643798
>would you really want to be surrounded by retarded and or stuck up violent girls 24/7?
>violent
masochist man here, maybe.
>Could you even self insert in to the situation?
Sweden is full of bitches, stuckup whores and plain retarded sluts.

>>48643706
Speak for your self. Id much rather have lolis as the MC of a harem, shonen, seien, whatever than the clueless morons that populate the air waves.

>>48643677
Trying to act clever huh? Ok, I'll reveal your moronity.

This person >>48643287 wanted an example of a strong anime character. It was given.

This person >>48643320 acted as if he or she knew about The Boss enough to make statements about her in this discussion. He strongly hinted at that he didn't (probably know the bare bones of who she is) or simply don't know what makes a strong character.
Said person made the stupid assumption based on misinformation from his part, which is what made me call said person stupid.

With me so far?

And here >>48643629 I responded to the one that obviously was offended for calling them stupid ( i.e. >>48643320).

Sicne you responded to >>48643629, that most likely means that you are >>48643320 and tried to be witty, but failed since again, you're stupid.
So you are either said idiot or simply someone that responds at random while trying to pose as someone else, which is also pretty dumb, but to be fair not as dumb.

Happy?

>>48643863
Anon-kun, how is your dick-chan?

>Get fightan shonen
>Change main character for a cute girl
>Improved

>Get harem anime
>Now a Yuri harem
>Improved

>Get sports shonen
>Now it's girls sports
>Improved

Female main characters can improve most shows

>>48643877
Actually I am
>>48643287
And you call me stupid. ohh wow, this thread.

>>48643711
>Hey femifag - get out.

This is honestly quite amusing.

I like strong characters, if they happen to be male or female doesn't matter.
So you're saying I'm a femenist or a female because I prefer strong characters over weak ones?

The reason I usually prefer males over females in media is because they generally fuck up and make females wimpy.

>>48643879
Since I have no idea what you are talking about or how its related to my post im reporting you for non-english.

>>48643953
>anime gets better just because its a female lead
Im surprised anon let this feminist bullshit live so long.

>>48643990
Because male main characters are totally strong, right?

>>48644009
This is not really feminism. This is reality.

>>48644009
I dont think you have the faintest idea of what you are talking about. Take your shit back to /y/.

So...
According to some idiots in this thread...
Girls aren't supposed to like yaoi...
And guys aren't supposed to like yuri and stuff like Queens Blade?

Wow,
I wonder how new to anime/manga they are

>>48643954
So you pretended to be someone else? Why?

More likely, you're both anons I was talking to. Because why would anyone pose as someone else?
Or why would you make the statement here >>48643677 when what I said in the second part of my post obviously wasn't directed at you, if you are indeed who you claim you are.

Yes, you certainly seem intelligent, ha.

>>48644114
>So you pretended to be someone else? Why?
Fucking amazing, this thread.

If you can't appreciate shows with a little girl protagonist as much as shows with some generic faggot protagonist, you have shit taste. Who the character is doesn't matter. It's the story that matters. If you need a character to be similar to yourself to better understand his actions, I can only question your intellect.

>>48644030
>Because male main characters are totally strong, right?

There's a bigger chance of a male being strong(er) than a female character, especially in japanese media.

>>48644162
[citation needed]

>>48644114
Thanks for proving everything that is wrong with feminists, time and time again.

>>48644152
>If you can't appreciate shows with a little girl protagonist as much as shows with some generic faggot protagonist
>little girl protagonist equal in value to generic faggot protagonist
>little girl = generic faggot
>women = men
>men = pigs
>women = men = pigs

>>48644193

>>48644150
Why can't you even follow your own line of reasoning?

I analyzed the posts from both sides. If someone responded randomly (i.e. jumped right into a discussion), why would said person be offended because someone called called someone else stupid?

Mind explaining something so nonsensical to me?

>>48644009
>anime gets better just because it's not a teenage male lead
FTFY. Hell, I'd watch an anime about an average businessman getting dragged into a power level shonen situation, because it would probably end up being different to all the other power level shonen featuring average high-school students out there.

>>48644188
>[citation needed]

Do I honestly need to? You're simply desperately grasping at straws sicne you want to "win" an argument on the internet.

You know I'm right. Females tend to take a backseat in (especially japanese) media. That's because japanese society is the way it is.

>>48644274
Holy shit. This sounds awesome, NO WAIT, it IS AWESOME.

>>48644274
Black Lagoon.

>>48644193
>Thanks for proving everything that is wrong with feminists, time and time again.

You're saying I'm a feminist? Based on what?

You have no idea how amusing this is since I strongly dislike feminists (like my sister). So I'm curious to hear how you made the delusional assumption that I'm a feminist?

>>48644377
Whats that have in any way to do with black lagoon? The MC from that show was female.

>>48644322
Well, you need to.
To get a famous example: the main characters of Big 3 are not strong. Ichigo is the only one that is not overly emotional.

Shinji Ikari from Evangelion is the biggest wimp ever

>>48644399
Revy is a protaganist, but Rock is the MC.

>>48644418
So you're saying females in anime/manga are generally as strong as males or stronger?

Is this accurate?

>>48644418
>Ichigo
>world biggest moralfag
>constantly crying
>not overly emotional

>MCs of Big 3 not strong
>implying Luffy didnt learn Hyakuretsu no Ken

>>48644466
Do you have proof they aren't?

>>48644399
Rock is the MC, don't delude yourself.

>>48644377
I said power level shonen. That being said, Black Lagoon was the first thing I thought as well.

>>48644489
This is not about power levels.
Luffy is a little bitch.

>>48644510
C has a university student thrown into a powerlevel shonen situation.

>>48644494
>Do you have proof they aren't?

I'll ask again:
You're saying females in anime/manga are generally as strong as males or stronger?

Why are you avoiding the question? I'll know whether or not to even bother to continue to argue with you once you answer the question.

Do you desperately want to win an internet discussion, despite agreeing with me? Answer the question.

>>48644605
That's what I'm fucking saying.