Sorry to say but the only good wizards aren't in anime and manga.

Louise
/thread

I know a few cool wizards. Bombardment magic seems to be the coolest and flashiest.

She has electric wizard powers.

>>48436151
Nope

Anima is my waifu.

>implying touhou is not /a/-related

The Emiyas.

SCIENCE was here.

Wizards cannot beat man made gods.

>>48436195
No no no, magical girls aren't mages or wizards.
You need:
1) a staff or wand
2) a wizard hat
3) a cape
that sais: Ook

>>48436201
the power to make stoner metal?

>>48436222
>Gandalf
Fellow Lord of the Rings fag, I salute your presence.
Also, Kel'Thuzad.
>inb4 "wowfag"
I point towards Warcraft 3.

Louie is the best wizard.

Sae

Witch, Wizard, whatthefuckever

>you are now aware there's not been a good fantasy anime since forever

>>48436302
staff? check. Cape? check. Wizard hat? check. Badassity? HELL YEAH MOTHERFUCKER. Vita and the iron count, reporting for duty.

>>48436397
LOLHeroes was just last year.

>>48436151
Didn't the last novel of ZnT just release?

I wonder how it ended..I'm guessing it was some shitty ending with Saito knocking up Louise and everyone living happy ever after.

Hah, wizards and mages are only fools that try to bend the laws of nature without knowing what they do.

Since toehoe is not /a/ related I choose Alice. She's surfing a broom. 'Nuff said.

Rita thread?

Eleven years have left until my graduating from the wizard apprenticeship.

Yellow > *

;_;

Do necromancers count?

>>48436470
OH FUCK
how could i have forgotten ;_;

time for my yearly re-reading ;_;

>>48436302
One does not need all that staff. Fucking amateurs!

ITT: People who don´t know what wizards are.

Ryner from Legend of Legendary Heroes

This guy's a fairly good example.

>>48436470

Hell
Yeah
Motherfucker

best wizard ever
also Louie

>>48436427
A hammer is not a staff.
A dress is not a cape.
Whatever the thing on Vita's head is it is not a wizard hat.

>>48436326
Ohh let not forget one of the true Wizards of are time.

>>48436071

>>48436523

What level would she be, in D&D terms? 19? 20?

There will never be any wizards in anime. The beard is essential

>>48436562
No. No no no. Fuck no. Don't you bring that Forgotten Realms Mary Sue into this you son of a bitch. Next you'll be saying Drizz't is your favorite elf.

>>48436302
Check.
Check.
Check.

I can keep going.

interesting...

>>48436603
She'd be the instant-kill end boss that appears when your GM doesn't like you.

>>48436562
Elminster is the biggest faggot in a world full of huge faggots.

>>48436603

She'd probably be a very poorly built high level wizard with levels in Archmage, since the range, intensity and area of effect of her spells is ridiculous.

But yeah, poorly built, because

>blaster wizards

The Forgotten Realms setting is a disgrace to everything wizardly that ever existed.

>>48436629
Fuck yeah mera mera mera mera!!, he made me remember when l got my first 5th level as a wizard.

>RO
>private server
>Lvl99 high wizard
>instant cast at 130 dex
>full buffed
>WoE
Bring the lube, ma' boy

>>48436658
Shes not a wizard.

>>48436658
Witch are not Wizards.

>>48436687
Blaster wizards were decent back in 2nd edition. Just saying.

>>48436667
you seem upset.
can think of a better wizard?

>>48436661
Really? She'd be a pretty shitty instakill boss. She's a blaster wizard with no real defensive magic, she's just asking to be fucked up in a dozen different ways.

>>48436764
>>48436774
she is not a b^Hwitch

>>48436822
hello there

>>48436822

Yes. Mordenkainen

Suddenly, you need iqdb.

>>48436822
Raistlin for one, if we're limiting ourselves to crappy D&D original characters.

>>48436823
You seem to not remember her ability to cast spells that can doom the whole planet.

>>48436823
That is why she keeps people like Gourry, Amelia and Zelgadis around, though.
And then there's Filia and Xellos.

>>48436300
he is a warlock, but whatever

Wizards are kind of like Batman.
They can do all sorts of crazy shit with prep time.

>>48436910
Well played hero.
I think sparrow hawk might be one of the few.

>>48436950

That's pretty low tier for a tope level mage in D&D. Karsus literally used magic to steal the power of the goddess of magic, Raistlin could have destroyed the entire Dragonlance universe had he gone through with his plan. And Vecna... Well, he nearly took over the entire D&D multiverse.

Anime does wizards and magic pretty shitty in my opinion in comparison with western media.

Obviously that doesn't make anime featuring magic and wizards necessarily bad, but the west simply does a better job at depicting them.

>>48437045
Then there's the whole summon an infinite amount of angels to create living planet golems for you thing. Destroying a world isn't going to do much when you can just teleport away and make another one.

>>48436950
Does she ever do something besides blast people with one or another variant of kamehamehas?

I like Slayers, but as usual, it lacks creativity.

Wizards in anime are like wizards in computer games: living artillery.

Way more awesome things have been done with magic in western media.

>>48437107

True enough. Anime seems to think that powerful wizard = really big attack magic. Western magic tends to be more focused on more subtle things.

>>48437004
Wizards are in someways better than batman, I mean, Gandalf was a terrible wizard and he killed the Balrog. Balrog by the way killed and entire mountain of dwarfs and we all know 1 and 1/2 men = a dwarf and batman = bat + man so if we substitute the bat for 1/2 a man you could say that Gandalf killed a mountain of batman

Bitches don't know about the Wizardry anime and Werdna laying the smack down.

Who cares ?
It's not like anyone mentionned in this thread actually EXIST.

>>48436300
Except for the science side being shit-tier in comparison with the magic side in terms of power.

But Index is a shitty setting anyway, so it shouldn't even be mentioned in this thread.

>>48437186
>Gandalf was a terrible wizard

....

He was subtle, yes. But terrible? Anta full baka.

>>48437239

Was he even a wizard? I thought he was just an angel using his racial abilities.

>>48437180
>Does she ever do something besides blast people with one or another variant of kamehamehas?

She makes some protection amulets to sell at a magic shop for money. Probably a few other things that I don't remember, and possibly stuff from the novels as well. She seems competent in other areas of magic, but relatively uninterested in them.

>>48437180
Have you watched Slayers at all? She uses magic to combine some gems to make a nice one to sell for more cash. She casts light, can fly and all those other useful things. Also fireballs. She only pulls out the big guns when the enemy is strong or someone gets on her nerve.

>>48437239
Gandalf the grey was terrible, as wizard. He was pro as mediator but when it came to using magic he was subpar

Warlocks > wizards

>>48437217
I chuckled.
Good times, good times.

>>48437284
They're essentially the same thing in LotR.

>>48437287

She sounds like a blaster/mild utility Wizard/Archmage. Which makes her fairly low tier. The true strength of a wizard in D&D lies in making yourself absolutely fucking invulnerable to everything (possibly hopping to another dimension) and then debuffing the shit out of your opponents to let teamates/summons rip them apart.

>>48437284
He was a wizard, The wizards Tolken used where made to look like and be similar to men but where buff'd to such a degree... well lets just say one of the lesser ones killed a fucking balrog.

>>48437287
Mentioning fireballs didn't help your case since fireball is pretty much the definitive blasty magic spell.

>>48437284
In Middle Earth, that's what all wizards are.

>>48437290
Nope. Just because he wasn't farting nuclear blasts every time an orc appeared doesn't mean shit.

>>48437342
>The true strength of a wizard in D&D lies in running away and letting his team mates do the work.
Fixed that for you.

>>48437370
Yet almost every other Wizard in Tolken does fart nuclear blasts, the 'crap' ones, like Gandalf, where amazing compared to Humans and Elves who could use magic but still terrible.

>>48437342
>>48437396
>The true strength of a Wizard in D&D lies in Locate City Nuke
You guys don't know SHIT about D&D.

>>48437396

If by running away, you mean timestopping, gating in a bunch of Elder Celestial Golden Dragons, catching the enemy within a barrier or raw pain and then teleporting to a 2D dimension to get sucked off by the mind controlled cast of K-ON and Lucky Star, then sure, yeah.

>>48437287
I watched it when it was released where I live, so it's been a while.

While Slayers comes definitely closer to the typical D&D wizard than most other wizards in anime, it still seems more influenced by computer games rather than fiction to me (and it's more of a parody anyway, so nothing to be taken too seriously).

In Middle Earth:

Wizards = Angels
Balrogs = Fallen Angels in direct service of TEH EVIL

Typically, wizards took the form of wrinkled old men because it made mortals trust them more and believe the crypric prophetic shit they spewed.

The wizards of Middle Earth are typically underestimated by DnD nerds because their shit setting thoroughly demystifies the concept and makes 'power' into some mundane-ass thing attainable by any mortal.

>>48437045
Actually, Lina can destroy her universe and all the adjoining ones. I think that's what the other anon meant by "world" (story world, not planet).

Lina's a lot better and more interesting in the novels, however.

>>48437396
No, The true strength to D&D wizard is the AoE, oh god that shit is fun. Why run? When you can run and fire a Halstrom back that has both your enemies and you partners in it. And I quite remember how to spell Halstorm (Mix of the work Hell and Maelstrom)

>>48437482
But there can only be 3 wizards at a time right
white,grey and brown.

>>48437482

As opposed ot the shit setting where technological progress, racial equality and medical advances are the domain of the bad guys.

Seriously, even Tolkien said that Orc medicine was far in advance of anybody elses, it just hurt like fuck.

Both from Rental Magica, left one focused on druid spells while the right is about demon summoning.

>>48437484
She still seems more like a mid-tier wizard with some innate ability rather than a real archmage though. While he might lose in the kamehameha powerlevel battle (which is doubtful but possible) he could still take her out in a million other ways.

>>48437482
The other reason they took the form of men was that they were not supposed to match power with power. Saruman got himself into his own mess by trying that, and was consumed.

The thing I liked about magic in Middle Earth was that it was "magical"- things happened without precise explanation or set rules. As you said with DnD, it's far too scientific- it's like loading more gunpowder into the cannon to get a bigger boom.

>>48437523
That depends what edition we're talking about.

>>48437484
two words Mina Sue

>>48437594
You can never defeat Lina. She has the power of friendship.

>>48437482
>Typically, wizards took the form of wrinkled old men because it made mortals trust them more and believe the crypric prophetic shit they spewed.

also because they believed that the world of men was beginning and they themselves must fight their battles to affirm their destiny.
otherwise gandal alone could've probably exorcised sauron from middle earth had he been sent over in his full power.

This man

>>48437662

A cosmic level wizard has the power of the dozen magic gods that he no doubt beat subservience into a few hundred years back.

Motherfucking Dark Schneider greatest wizard EVER

No contest

>>48437585
>But there can only be 3 wizards at a time right

Are you trying to troll the /tg/-/a/ crossposters or do you really no nothing about Tolkien? There were five Istari sent to middle-earth and they're only a fraction of their race (which is the same as Sauron and the balrogs' race.)

>>48437585
There were actually 5. Two blue wizards went south to mess up Sauron's plans in Harad.

>>48437594
No, he'd lose because she has the most important magic- plot armor. That sounds pithy, but we have to consider in-universe effects- and one of the powers she has is to never be placed in a situation she can't overcome.

More seriously, the Slayers universe has different magic than DnD. Astral plane magic, for example, has some great options, along with other Shamanic powers. There is quite a bit of variety, but because most battles are decided quickly for TV purposes, the first thing that comes out are the quick spells- flare arrow, freeze arrow, etc.

That's why I mentioned the novels.

>>48437592
>Rental Magica

loved that show, especially because it greatly expanded on what magic they're using and shit.

>>48437638
No, Lina is a Munchkin. Her player has minmaxed her perfectly, and the GM is on her player's side.

>>48437705
Still got nothing on the power of friendship.

>>48437667
If Gandalf had done that, he'd merely have become another Dark Lord- he said that quite clearly in the book.

>>48437717
Thanks man. Much better response then >>48437716

>>48437824
>If Gandalf had done that, he'd merely have become another Dark Lord- he said that quite clearly in the book.

Wasn't that in case if he took the One Ring for himself?

>>48437737
>No, he'd lose because she has the most important magic- plot armor.
The same is true for plenty of other wizards, so you could use that argument for them as well.

Fact is that she displays both a lack of preparation and variety of skills. She has a few high level spells of ultimate destruction, but how is that going to help her if she's caught off guard?

Besides, as I already mentioned, Slayers is obviously a parody and shouldn't be taken too seriously in the first place.

>>48436942
She is awesome (and my waifu) but she is not a mere wizard, she is the fucking Queen of Demons

>>48437824
And he seemed to consider it unlikely that he could beat Sauron with direct force anyway. All five definitely could have though.

>>48437791

He also has the friendship of the party companions that fought with him so they could reach that level. Friendship + Magic power of a dozen dimensions + Man who can break a planet in half with a totally mundane axe > Friendship

>>48437876
>The same is true for plenty of other wizards, so you could use that argument for them as well.

>mwf Gandalf was saved directly as a result of plot armor and came back as Gandalf 2.0

>>48437867
But that was the only way he could defeat Sauron. Even at full power as a revealed Maiar, he was not strong enough without the Ring. But assuming he was powerful enough without it, the theme running through Tolkien's work implies that he'd still fall.

>>48437782
Both Lina and Gourry were munchkins. Amelia was the excitable noob player going all Kamen Rider on the group.
Zelgadis was the one "serious" role player who was clearly irritated by the munchkinings of Lina and Gourry.
Xellos was the DMPC. And a well done DMPC at that. Pointing them on the way to go but not really interfering unless absolutely necessary.

No love for orphen?

>>48437889
Still not better than power of friendship.

You know, manga and anime is cool for a lot of things. But when it comes to mages, I bet only in one man.

"My talent's for lying. For sticking the knife in when people least expect it. Then walking away with a smile and a wave before they even realize they're bleeding."

This fucker right here.

His body is made out of swords
His blood is of iron and his heart of glass
He survived through countless battles
Not even once retreating
Not even once being understood
He was always alone
Intoxicated with victory in a hill of swords
Thus, his life has no meaning
That body was certainly made out of swords

Postin' my favorite sword in a wizard thread.

>>48436071
a 30yo virgin... sucks to be you pal!

>>48437876
Lina's plot armor is stronger, being a cute anime female.

We can argue about who would be caught off guard when, but that would depend on the universe and rules within. In the Slayers universe, high level mages, even gods, can be caught off guard. That means that any wizard who went there would be vulnerable.

I think Lina is more powerful and stands a better chance than you imply, parody or not. In fact, the parody element works in her favor due to her durability. Comedy is power.

>>48437939
Well, at that point Gandalf was the only wizard left who was actively doing anything about Sauron and the ring.
Rhadagast was hiding in the woods talking to animals, the two blue wizard disappeared into the east, never to be heard from again.
Also, Saruman had gone from "the White" to Saruman the Many Colored. With a swirly tie-dye robe of every color of the rainbow.

>>48438016
This would be the other beside sparrow hawk. constantine is a real bad ass.

Mushrooms.

elemental wizard reporting in and magicka is too buggy to play

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Elemental_Wizard_%283.5e_Class%29

>>48438091
Sounds pretty fruity.

>>48438044
>gears
WALLLLPURRRGISSSS

Talking about wizards, has anybody read this?

>>48438016
Anime/manga doesn't really do spellcasters in general as we in the west do it in fantasy. Negima, maybe, but even that is a stretch.

>>48438091
Rhadaghast - tremendous faggot or livin' the dream?

Gene may not be a real wizard, but he's got a magic gun that shoots magic spell from magic bullets that are actually made by real wizards.

>>48438202
Where do you think the trent wives went?

CT5 FLARE, ALL DIE.

>>48438202
If by "dream" you mean teaching the peanut butter trick to all the wolves in the forest, then yes.

>>48438124
Delishus Mushrooms.

the witches in Umineko, they were different from the conventional Wizards/witches that are in the DnD style of mage craft that went around shooting fireballs and wear cloth armor.I liked how magic in that universe was illusions and can only appear before you or harm you only if you believe in them.

This wizard right here.
Mostly because I laugh because no one knows his name.

>>48438082
The point is that you're arguing within the setting, while I'm arguing when it comes to general skills.

I like Slayers, and Lina as a character, but you're being really silly here.

Sure, within her own setting, she can't be taken down because the author doesn't want her to be taken down. The same is true for Elminster.

That doesn't change the fact however, that she doesn't display the skills of an archmage. She displays the skills of a mid-tier mage and occasionally some special ability which allows her to cast kamehameha on her enemies.

Whether if someone faced her within her own setting he would be magically forced into a DBZ style battle of kamehameha powers is besides the point - the point is that she doesn't seem to be an impressive wizard. An impressive wizard is a guy who makes impressive use of his magic abilities, does interesting things with his magic, a guy who is first of all creative rather than powerful.

Someone who shoots big lasers isn't impressive. Son Goku can do that too. Lots of characters can. Those are things we've seen before.

>>48438352
And before anyone asks, no, that's not Wagnard from Lodoss.

Travelling dimensions all day every day.

>CTRL+F lodoss
>0 of 0

Come on! The show is pretty much a DnD campaign turned into an anime

>>48438142
>see Magicka
>"Holy shit this game looks fucking awesome. Playing co-op is going to be god-tier."
>download demo
>OH GOD SLOWDOWN, SLOWDOWN EVERYWHERE
>COMPLETELY UNPLAYABLE
mfw I don't own a desktop and found out that the developers refused to optimize the game for laptops

>>48438371
Stop getting so anal about Lina beating some old dudes.

>>48438442
>>48438442
W-wait for me!

>>48438371
One of Lina's constant flaws is that she's a trigger happy, emotional, hormonal adolescent girl.
With small boobs.

>>48438371
Have you read the Slayers novels? The problem is that you're just looking at it from an anime perspective, and anime needs lots of action to keep it interesting looking.

But your continued use of "kamehameha" suggests to me that you're deliberately avoiding the magical effects of the different sorts of spells in order to keep your position.

Lina is more than mid-level (a step upwards from your earlier positions), but there is no way you will convince me of your point, nor I convince you of mine.

>>48436071‮‮

For the record, she's one of the biggest sluts ever ,bigger than saten, But she has that charm that fucking charm that your would fuck her even if she gave you aids.
That delicious brown skin, them child bearing hips, that red hair.

>>48438450
You missed Wagnard by two posts.
Also, Karla. Because I can fap to her.

>>48438455

It really is a fucking EXCELLENT game. I cannot stress how much fun I had playing it with mates until we got to a point where it always crashes.

If they ever remove the bugs, it will be glorious. Until then, let it rest.

>>48438450
>pretty much
It LITERALLY is a DnD campaign turned into an anime, dude.

can't for the life of me remember the name of good wizard guy in loddoss

>>48438352
Anyone know who this is?

>>48438590
not quite. the game that spawned it wasn't dnd but some jap variant

>>48438450

>CTRL+F lodoss
>0 of 0
Liar, you didn't even try

>>48438416

>>48438596
Slayn.
Remember your party.
Parn
Deedlit
Etoh
Ghim
Woodchuck

>>48438450
>Come on! The show is pretty much a DnD campaign turned into an anime

Except Lodoss IS a DnD campaign that got turned into novels with anime adaptations. The same thing happened with Slayers.

>>48438501
>Have you read the Slayers novels?
No, and I think I already mentioned that I'm looking at it from an anime perspective.

>But your continued use of "kamehameha" suggests to me that you're deliberately avoiding the magical effects of the different sorts of spells in order to keep your position.
I use kamehameha because those are her high-level spells. Otherwise she mostly casts what pretty much any mid-tier D&D wizard can.

>this thread

>>48436300
Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Thus it's all the same shit.

captcha: staves, renditio

>>48438588
I was just on Steam, and apparently they've released a $5 DLC Vietnam-themed campaign.

why.jpg

>>48438680
Then there's no real point to this discussion. Anyone will look like a massive tard when only bang-zoom-flash entertainment is considered. It'd be like saying "Man, Mario is fucking useless, all he can do is shoot in two directions and jump a short distance."

>>48438680
Take it easy.

>>48436300
You are talking about the man defeated my a weak main character, almost killed by a mad scientist with a gun, almost killed two time by another mad scientist, almost defeated by another sper and defeated by a catholic church mage?

>>48438625
>Nipponese D&D counterpart
I thought that was Maid RPG

>>48438727
>Nowadays it seems like every game is getting a Vietnam add-on and Magicka is no exception.

I think it's pretty funny.

>>48436071
>What's your favorite type of magic in an anime or manga?

The interesting kind that isn't pewpew with magic instead of bullets.

i like loli witches.

>>48438805
I'm not involved in the conversation, but it's kind of silly to keep doing that when there's someone consistently responding to him, and being just as serious.

>>48438553
You can fap to any wizard who can cast polymorph

>>48438877
we all do.