Anime fans now don't like anime, they just have nothing else in their lives

If you haven't seen this, you don't know SHIT about anime

wen was this i dont even

Mecha anime used to define otaku, now it's moeshit.

told

>>42087006
Mecha anime is still big among girls for the homolust

>>42087024
you will never be sitting on the sidewalk lined up for blocks to see Macross in a movie theatre ;_;

I fucking love Otaku no video
Gainax is so awesome
I love the bit where they make Magiacal girl anime and become the Otaku king

>>42087108
Unless you go to Japan when the the next Macross frontier movie comes out

>>42086913
>They're kidnapping a normalfag and turning him into one of them

Isn't that what Oraoraora no imouto is about?

>>42087210
No it's about a shitty sister

Otaku no Video is great because it is a testament to how otaku really aren't much different now than they were 20 years ago.

>>42087206
yeah.... I also want to go for the live action Yamato movie that's coming out this december, and for the new Harlock next year, but alas, I don't have the money to fritter away on such awesome endeavors

fuck yea 90's anime
back before we had them faggy weeaboos and anime fans weren't known for being gay losers
we were respectable!
we had mildly attractive women!
and most importantly, we had unity and passion!
how i miss those halcyon days...

>>42087360
Glorious Tale Comrade

>>42087360
not even close

>>42087360
You type like child, just to let you know.

>>42087360
>we were respectable
haha

>>42087360

>herp derp

>>42087360
>mqv upon hearing your story

>>42087360
>>42087386
>>42087403
>>42087417
>>42087444
>>42087445
>>42087489
/a/ is really self-hating huh?

>>42087360
hahaha oh wow

seriously though, the only thing that made the 90's anime fandom better was the lack of normalfags

>>42087561
no its just the truth. Nerds will and always have been nerds

>>42087561

>self-hating

>not cosigning with nostalgiafag bullshit

it all comes down to animefags being animefags, no one has really changed, we simply have a broader fanbase now, and as such, there are some people that are "less-obsessive" about anime, or have only seen the stuff on tv. But weren't you all that same way at one time?

>>42087790
>we simply have a broader fanbase now
yes but is it for the greater good?

>>42087790
you made a point and i'm going to call you a faggot about it
>i will also attempt to use quotes to make you sound stupid.

>>42087820
this is a prime example of the "newfag dillema"
we want to be into something, and we want others to do it with us, but when they do it differently than we do, we reject them.
It's like old school protestant v. catholic stuff.
Who can say which of us is right?

>>42087820
Nope.

>>42087861
when I was a newfag, I listened to what my elderfags had to say, because they had been into anime longer than I had, and their support of the industry was probaly quite literally the reason I had shows to watch

>>42087828
>4chan in a single post

Don

>>42087978
now that is the kind of thinking that the new newfags should be having, that is, after all, the way things tend to work in every culture right?
and eventually the pupil will surpass the master.

>>42087978
>Their support of the industry
>Implying anyone outside of Japan has any real economic effect on the anime industry

herrrrr derrrrr

>>42086944
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-840keiiFDE&feature=related

if you haven't seen THIS then you don't know shit about anime

>>42088010
>Implying that we didn't get a second season of The Big O specifically because of its overseas popularity.

Don-don

>>42088010
there was a time when the localization industry meant something, and the support of fans was what led directly to more shows being available.

Don-Don-Don!

>>42088002

Exactly.

The people new to the hobby who are serious about it should learn from the people who have been around longer, watch a lot of the classic stuff then branch on to their own stuff.

At the very least if they aren't going to do this they should at least realize that the hobby has been around a lot longer than them and most of the shit they think is new and original isn't. I'm so tired of hearing about how Love Hina/Ranma/Eva started everything.

>>42088034
actually, I meant it more in the sense of Otaku no Video being a (albeit fictionalized) documentary of otaku culture in the 80's and a history of the creation of what today is one of the more well-known and influential animation studios - by watching it, you actually increase what you know about anime, instead of measuring your knowledge in the form of an "obscure anime checklist" penis size competition

>>42088152
second.jpg

>>42088038

There are actually quite a few different productions that only happened because of overseas support.

Furthermore if things hadn't been brought over in the early days stuff wouldn't have ended up on TV and most of the current fans wouldn't even know what this shit is. There would be no overnight fansubs or any of the shit that you guys have become used to.

>>42088152
Don't know the origin of yellow subtitles? then you don't know SHIT about anime

for those of you interesting in the origin of yellow subtitles, read all about it at the following page:
www.animeigo.com/about/secret-history-animeigo

>>42088181
Well, there were subs back in The Day. I was watching fourth-generation VHS tapes of Kimagure Orange Road fansubs back in 1990.

I do agree that the current anime scene would look vastly different without the early localizations; it still strikes me as unbelievable that it is a given that every single show of a season will be subbed by some group. Appreciate what you have, guys: it's fucking amazing.

God do i miss FLCL

>>42088265
I really miss VHS fansubs. They evoke this really warm feeling in my heart, a time when the community was a lot smaller and a lot closer.

>>42088265

I was there back in the VHS day too.

If you want to go back far enough I really doubt the guys who subbed your old KOR tapes would have done that if they hadn't watched Kimba/Battle of the Planets/Starblazers/etc.

I mean granted there would probably be some sort of underground fandom in the US if there hadn't been people bringing this shit over, I really doubt it would have grown much without some exposure.

>>42088333
nice trips
>>42088339
agreed

>>42088339

I know what you mean, but things are better now.

Hell there are shows I still keep my fansub tapes of even though I own the VHS and DVD releases just for the nostalgia factor.

>>42088333
that's half a satan trips ya got thar

shit, fandom nostalgia thread... buying LDs just because, even with the investment of buying an LD player, it was still cheaper than imported VHS

>>42088339

Yes, let's go back to a time where subs could take months, years to get with significantly poorer video and sound quality.

You nostalgiafags are ridiculous.

>>42088533
sounds like somebody doesn't have any nostalgiamas spirit!

>>42088553
best part about being an anime fan in the 90's was that YotsubaC wasn't around to tell you how stupid you were for liking things

>>42088553

I'm all for nostalgia but those were the fucking dark ages.

I'm willing to put up with all the lame ass shit we see these days so I can get my fix easier. And I'm happy about it.

>>42088576
and dbz was on tv

>>42088601
spoken like a true nostalgiafag

on 4chan, you mean? that's because the staff here are /b/tards and gaiafags, not anime fans, and /b/ traditionally leads gaia around by the nose and/or dick

now you know

>>42088576
the shows were better too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTdsijn32HQ
here's some motherfucking nostalgia

>>42088668
second.

>>42088533
Implying I'm not Fluent in Japanese

>>42088677
newfag

>>42088677
just blew my mind
all these years and i didn't know there was a full version

>>42088668
What does Idol Defense Force Hummingbird have to do with good 90s shows?

>>42088677
Go to bed kid

I started watching anime (and by that I mean buying subtitled anime on VHS, not watch dubbed shit on TV), during the late 90s, and I actually enjoy anime nowadays more than I did back then.

I would never trade the variety - and most importantly the accessability - we have nowadays for the anime of the old days.

>>42088742
>modern anime
>variety

nostalgia is a poor way to determine how good a show was.
However, i'm sure we can all agree that the anime community was much closer and friendlier with eachother back then.
Maybe it's time to quit watching anime and let the new newfags do as they please, our time is over.

>>42088668

>say that shows were better

>pair the statement with a shitty example

And this is a perfect example why people don't take nostalgiafags seriously

>>42088727
Kotono. Fucking. Mitsuishi.

>>42088774
If you deny this then you're a newfag.

We've got shows like Monster, Kaiba, Dennou Coil, Akagi, Kaiji, Gundam Unicorn, but also fanservice shows for pretty much any fetish available, from yaoi like in Code Geass to mecha musume in Strike Witches.

If you disagree about that you're simply a newfag who doesn't know shit about anime.

>>42088806
>tripfag being a massive fucking douche
and this is why everyone hates tripfags

>>42088265
>>42088379
Anime became popular because of anime on TV like akira and ninja scroll.

The difference would be that people today would only like cool anime and not the moeshit that was subbed on your tapes.

>>42088774

>implying that's wrong.

>>42088847
This fag is just being pissy because nobody is talking about K-on anymore

>>42088902
impossible
i resent k-on

>>42088902
I see at least one thread daily, it's constantly mentioned everywhere, and there's still a movie coming out.

So I have Shitsuba filtered, has he tried to convince you with the charts that leave out more than half of the anime produced in any given year?

>>42088901
holy shit
i love gaogaigar!

>>42088933
Yeah but the threads are more civil so this fag can't troll with his victim complex

>>42088947
yes daddy!
please make the bad man stop!

>>42088947
inb4 TV anime is all that matters

>>42088926

>>42088947
If you want to prove us wrong that anime of the past had greater variety, how about you provide complete lists then, including the shows he left out? Otherwise his point seems more credible to me.

Also what about my argument in >>42088846

>>42088947

So you had "shitsuba" filtered yet somehow knew he was in this thread?

Cool story, onii-chan.

Yotsuba eh ?

I'll just leave this here

>>42089021
OWNED

>>42089006
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Anime_of_1994

feel free to change years using the links at the top of the page. sorry that I'm too lazy to make charts

>>42089021
You seem pretty butthurt if he drove you to make that pic.

>>42089021
how butthurt do you have to be to make an image like this

>>42089018
everyone posting hates you, yet you're still here?
someone was deprived of attention as a child.

>>42089021
i lol'd REALLY hard

>>42089061
>>42089064
i think that he just got tired of yotsuba's shit
what's wrong with character assassination?

>>42089039

>thinks wiki is an accurate calculation of anime from that period.

Herp derp. Wiki is full of errors, and isn't consistent. (will put some anime in a certain year even if they didn't start in that year)

>>42089064
>>42089061
Cept I didn't make it
some other guy posted it in some other thread

>>42089064
You'd have to be some sort of #psycho

>>42089039
Quite a few of those are movies/OVAs though, his list shows only TV anime, I think.

>>42089039
To be fair Its really seems like they just stop making as many mecha series as they were.

>>42088970
By flagging Bamboo Blade as shit you invalidated your opinion.

>>42088742
I started watching anime in the middle 80's.
And I say anime is better nowadays. For some reason, I think most "nostalgiafags" are actually newfags.
I see other older anime fans saying this many times too.

And then they backstab him.

>>42089136
now that i think about it, i do really have a thing for mecha, weird
that certainly explains a lot

>>42089039
I forgot to add in >>42089117: and how is that a greater variety than we have nowadays?

>>42089162
I love mecha as well. I lurk /m/ constantly and I guess that explains why they generally love older series.

>>42088339

omg i remember fapping to ghost sweeper mikami

she was sooo fucking hot

>>42089142
He also thinks les miserables was shit

>>42089192
you serious?
fuck this shit, i'm going to /m/!

>>42089142
Not to mention Darker than Black and Seirei no Moribito

Seriously anyone trying to deny that 2007 was golden is full of shit. It's 08 and 09 that people whine about mostly.

>>42089061
Eventually people get sick of specific people shitting up every thread they show up in, and create images that illustrate to newcomers exactly why to not respond to the retard.

But back on topic, I must say that I like the overall look and feel of 80s and early 90s anime. It's not as slick and shiny. Part of this might stem from my great distaste for the chipmunk look that seems so common in modern moe (and as somebody pointed out with the Hummingbird picture, moe is hardly a new phenomenon though slice-of-life moeblobs seem to be far more common than in previous decades), but whatever.

Of course, that might just be because that's what I first experienced. Japan seems to be in love with 70s anime nostalgia (which I simply do not understand), but to me, the 80s look of Macross and Megazone 23 and Kimagure Orange Road will forever be the best style.

>>42089006
more shows does not equal more variety

when people say there was more variety in the 90's, they are referring to variety of subject matter, variety of visual style, etc

a harem about an all female aerobatics squadron in the JDF
mockumentary history of gainax
female power suit wrestling
idol singer jet pilots
magical girl mecha fantasy
a time traveller who has to stop a young man who turns into a playboy when he's around women from overpopulating the world of the future

I'm not saying that some contemporary anime don't have interesting premises, but there's a glut of things like bad VN adaptations and SoL yonkoma adaptations that are making things stale. I love Strike Witches precisely because its weirdness reminds me of what anime was like two decades ago

Don't know who this bro is?
You don't know SHIT about anime.

>>42089162
The mecha genre was sadly overtaken by fujoshi.

>>42089211
And even Manabi Straight.

Jesus what a faggot.

>>42089201
Ghost Slide was better fap material

>>42089231
i don't want to live in a world where mecha isn't manly
anyone remember the gurren lagann and the gaogaigar?
that was some fucking mecha

>>42089222
There is still more variety nowadays...

>>42089266
have you seen the preliminary Winter 2011 chart?
>a normal high school boy...

>>42089258
only the OVA though, the TV series cut out all the naughty bits

>>42089264
You are aware that despite GL being more in-line with older mecha in that way, it's actually still quite popular among the girls right

>>42089182

Except if you knew anything you would know that many of those OVAs are hentai or supplementary OVAs to ongoing series. And of those that aren't, only a few of them are more than a couple episodes long--episodes that were typically released in between several weeks, months, or years in between each other . And it's not like there's not OVAs/Movies now. Even with consideration of OVAs, that does not make up for the huge difference of anime.

>>42089255
Also Terra,Ghost hound,Basquash! and Rocket girls
....Seriously fuck that guy

>>42089222

Except for the fact that none of what you said proved anything. The fact that you for some reason think there was more visual diversity is proof you don't know what you're talking about. More shows does mean more shows.

>>42088776
>Maybe it's time to quit watching anime and let the new newfags do as they please, our time is over.

I dunno, It doesn't feel as though they've earned it yet.

"The Boy aint right" as they say. Something is definitely off kilter with anime fans today compared to anime fans of the 70's-90's. It's like the don't understand that anime used to be art at one point, and settle for slice of life moe shit instead of "reach for the stars!" awesome anime we used to have.

I swear if I see one more "High school animu, BUT WITH A TWIST!" show, I'm gonna fucking hurl.

Thank God Unicorn episode 2 just came out...keeps the anger away.

>>42089117
>his list shows only TV anime
that's because if his lists showed movies and OVAs they're be much, much bigger, and people could look at them and say "Oh, this looks interesting, I'll watch it," which would fly in the face of his argument that old anime is not good

>>42089291
I don't know about the Winter season, but let's take a look at this one.
There is mecha (Star Driver), there is superhero stuff (Iron Man), there is cute anime (Squid Girl), there is more serious anime (Yakumo) and there is Sora no Otoshimono (whatever in the fuck the anime tries to be).
There are things for everyone.

The complaint here seems mostly to be: "The majority of anime made nowadays is not mecha"
Actually, most of the times, this kind of thread has someone complaining that mecha is not dominating anymore.

>>42089304
Character designs

>>42089361
the problem with this business is that they shifted from money+art+story (old anime) to just money (new anime pandering sales)

>>42089222
>a harem about an all female aerobatics squadron in the JDF
Nowadays we have Strike Witches.

>mockumentary history of gainax
Which stands out in history as a single work and could rarely be classified as a genre that would have returned on a seasonal basis.

>female power suit wrestling
Nowadays we have a female Kendo team in Bamboo Blade.

>idol singer jet pilots
And nowadays there is the Galactic Pretty Boy.

>magical girl mecha fantasy
Mai HiMe comes close to that.

>a time traveller who has to stop a young man who turns into a playboy when he's around women from overpopulating the world of the future
And nowadays we get to see the daily life of a Japanese college student who's capable of seeing micro-organisms.

Again, I disagree about greater variety. Anime back then had variety, but it still has nowadays. We get certainly more of the same in certain genres since the whole industry has grown, but other than that we still get pretty much the same amount of quality shows.

>>42089372
Cept Yakumo is complete and utter shit like most Bee train wrecks

>>42089363

You're an idiot. First off, I've never argued that old anime is not good. Second, even with consideration of OVAs--especially when considering most said OVAs were only a couple episodes long, hentai and supplementary material towards the late 90s--the gap isn't anywhere near closed.

>>42089361
Great, another pseudo oldfag

>>42089363
I've never saw him claim anime back then wasn't good. I think his point is that anime is still good and that we have nowadays at least as much variety as back then.

And if that's his point, then I agree.

>>42089438

Pseudo old fag? Is that because I mentioned Unicorn?

UC universe Gundam is BEST Gundam.

....nay, ONLY Gundam.

>>42089406
I forgot to add that this is the Japs fault, worldwide sales don't apply here.

>>42089361
>Acts like an oldfag anime fan
>Has a problem with high school setting anime
No one is going to buy your bullshit.

>This thread
Normalfags trying hard in pretending they're not normalfags.

>>42089470
No. Your entire post reeked of that

>>42089361

Oh look, a newfag nostalgiafag who's exposure to 90s anime is probably limited to what he saw on Adult swim a few years ago.

>>42089406

No, the problem is that people like you regard anything you dislike as being superficial, have a deluded sense of quality, and a deluded sense of the integrity compared to today.

>>42089470
You type like a typical moe hater who doesn't know shit acting like some oldfag.

>>42089406
I disagree there. Anime in the past wasn't all Akira, there was a huge amount of magical girl shit coming out which just didn't make it to the west.

We still get good shows, it's just that good shows don't grow on trees. It's foolish to expect a masterpiece each season.

>>42089372
>The complaint here seems mostly to be: "The majority of anime made nowadays is not mecha"
that's certainly not my complaint
only one of the shows (Rayearth)I listed in >>42089222 could really be described as mecha (and if you've seen it, the mechs only show up late in the show), maybe a couple others would be considered to have mecha elements because of the planes

My argument about variety has nothing to do with something for everyone genre-appeal, it has to do with things feeling fresh. The 80's and 90's saw a large number of new ideas in anime and a lot more original works; one of the results of the post-evangelion boom was a lot of things being made as anime just because anime had started to become more popular as a medium, many of which were adaptations that added very little to the innovation in the medium as a whole.

>>42089514

But moe is a cancer. It's overtaken the entire industry.

Well, did for a time. It's dying off now. That quid girl show is like the last spasm at the end of a dry orgasm for the moe market. What with having to rely on an old 2ch meme that died years ago for ratings.

Looking forward to Japan going more for quality over quantity in terms of shows in the future.

>>42088806

>>42089550

>The 80's and 90's saw a large number of new ideas in anime and a lot more original works

No, they didn't. And you can't prove that.

>>42089558

>>42089592

>>42089500
>Oh look, a newfag nostalgiafag who's exposure to 90s anime is probably limited to what he saw on Adult swim a few years ago.

Pffffft hahahaha. You wish this were true.

Kid, I got laserdiscs that are probably older than you are. Don't even try.

>>42089558
Complete nonsense.

Moe is a constant. It has always been present in anime since the dawn of time.

Don't believe what newfags on /a/ tell you.

>>42089524
>there was a huge amount of magical girl shit coming out which just didn't make it to America

>>42089609

Moe has always had it's place, but it was never meant to be the spotlight of the industry.

Hell, anime was never really meant for mainstream spotlight either. Still wondering if it would have been better off as a niche within the larger sci fi/fantasy/comic book fandom.

>>42086913
NORMALFAGS RISE!!

DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN
WHEN THE MOEFAGS FORCE THEIR SHIT ON 4CHAN?
1939 and the Mods just turned away!
From the underground grows a hope of freedom as a whisper
Anons in despair but WE NEVER LOST OUR WAY!!
Shonen, Seinen and shoujo fight
There were banning on each thread
But the bans we shared upon that board
Was a sacrifice willingly made!

4chan, board was at war
Voices from underground whispers of freedom
1944
Help had finally came
Calling
Rise up and sage K-On
History calling to you
Normalfaggots Walcz!!

>>42089607

lol I'm not sure who you think you're fooling. Your newfaggotry is evident from your posts. And it really doesn't matter who you claim to have started watching anime. It doesn't allow you to speak complete bullshit.

>>42089524
>there was a huge amount of magical girl shit coming out which just didn't make it to America
like what? I love magical girl stuff, but I didn't really like it very much back then. All I watched in the 90's was Rayearth, Sailor Moon, Pretty Sammy. I also know about the Pierrot stuff, as they pretty much built their reputation on it, but outside of that I'm pretty ignorant as to old mahou shoujo stuff.

>>42089645

>I dont even know what moe means but going to keep pretending I'm knowledgeable.

>>42089665
>Last to fight
>First to fall
fix'd for you

>>42089609
>Moe is a constant. It has always been present in anime since the dawn of time.
+1. I'm a nostalgiafag who loves moe and acknowledges the role it has played in my fandom the last fifteen years

>>42089665
Spirit, soul and heart
in accordance with the old traditions
1944 still the allies turn away
Fighting street to street
in a time of hope and desperation
Did it on their own but we never lost the fight!

Shounen, seinen and shoujo fight
We got banning on each board
But the bans we shared upon that thread
Was a sacrifice willingly made!

Forget anime, moe has existed forever in literature.

>>42089665
No, moe is awesome.

Pic related, she's moe.

>>42089558
>cancer
What haters want to believe. I swear.

>>42089645
>it was never meant to be the spotlight of the industry
Nothing was ever "meant" to be anything. There is no authority for anime who tells what is supposed to be present and what's not.

It's undeniable that lots of people got into anime because of the cute girls. If you ask people what they think when they hear anime, they will always tell you something about "school girls with huge eyes", that was the definitive element, and that certainly already hints in the direction of "moe".
Anime which didn't contain any of that were always the exceptions, which fans would try to show others that it wasn't all about cute girls. But to claim that cute girls weren't a huge factor when it came to the appeal of anime is nonsense.

Sailor Moon was what got me into anime. And I sure as hell didn't watch it for the monster of the week.

>>42089674
>It doesn't allow you to speak complete bullshit.

I haven't told a single lie, so please, illuminate me.

>>42089701
They hate Polish Freedom.

But there is one difference between Poland and everyone else.

Our freedom!

No matter what the communists or nazis do to trample upon those rights Polish men and women will fight on the streets, fight from within and fight from outside until their freedom is restored.

That is why Poland will never die
That is why Poland will never fall!
That is why Poland will NEVER LOSE!

>>42089524
Even if there were plenty of irrelevant magic girls in the past I'm sure they weren't as empty as the new moe.

>>42089772
>>42089753

Yotsuba, why are you such a dick. Genuine question.

>Emperors_Finest !!7tfX9OhowO1
Stop embarrassing yourself, kid. It's quite clear you are a new anime fan by the things you write

>>42086913
>baww too many people know of my cool little underground club. stop enjoying what i like already so i can feel special and superiour again.

>>42089698
care to enlighten us with the correct definition of moe, "master"?

>>42089753
my middle school waifu

>>42089816
See
>>42089803

>>42089768
I don't even know where to start with your post.

>>42089678
>like what? I love magical girl stuff, but I didn't really like it very much back then.
Take a look at Yotsuba's lists. The magical girl genre was incredibly popular.

Anyone know when Yotsuba goes to bed? I'd like to know what time /a/ stops being shit.

Let's not even get into the fact that I don't think anyone here knows what true moe is.

The term moe was severely corrupted over the course of the years to it's current state. it used to refer to characters you had a strong connection to (and not in a sexual way).

Like a character would represent a little sister character you wanted to protect, or look out for. That kind of thing.

The last time moe was done "correctly" was the Casshern Sins.

Sadly, there are some that would still pervert moe, even when the character is presented properly.

Normalfags are the cancer that killed imageboards and made it mainstream.

Where's that Mc.D. Geist mod when you need him?

>>42089868

>true moe

Tell me more.

>>42089868
Nigga, you just went full retard

>>42089868
>I don't think anyone here knows what true moe is.
>The last time moe was done "correctly" was the Casshern Sins.

True moe is subjective, and you're full of bullshit to even say "correctly" when you're only just touching one aspect of its many different side. There are tons of good moe out there, of various elements. Quit being retarded.

Just who started this MOESHIT HERP DERP crap?
All of them should go back to ANN and SA, or whatever shithole they came from.

>>42089756

Your whole post is based on ignorance. You don't understand moe's meaning, nor do you understand the quality level of then and now. You're speaking pure nostalgiafag garbage.

Rise, normalfags
Hold whats ours
Strike’em were it hurts

Fight, hold your ground
Anon war
Reinforce the line

>>42089862
Yotsuba℃ !!12SEFhiHDdm >> Emperors_Finest !!7tfX9OhowO1

I'll take the lesser cancer.

>>42089922
People from ANN.
Answerman's disciples, most of them.

>>42089790

I'm not a dick towards anyone who doesn't make me like so.

It is cancer.

>>42089922
Impossible to pinpoint, but it mostly got rolling sometime in the late 08 from moe haters being haters and ranting over stupid shit.

>>42089868

What a terrible post.

>>42089944
>implying any tripfag is better than any other tripfag

>>42089958
I am not a evil person. Jews made me an evil person.

>>42089923
>moe is subjective

Nothing is subjective. Everything is Objective. Stop being pussies.

>>42089923
see >>42089868

This is true moe. There are slight variations, but anything of the sexual sort is a perversion of the original moe ideal character.

Deny it if you want. We all know you secretly want to fuck children. It's cool. We'll keep it the communities little secret. But don't go pretending it's more than it is.

And /a/ has gone mainstream, so there are plenty of normalfags with low powerlevels nowadays here.

Ya'll just running around in circles.

>>42090004

>Tsukihime

lol'd

>>42089998
>Nothing is subjective. Everything is Objective. Stop being pussies.
Way to spawn retarded crap.
But I guess you and Yotsuba are quite happy. You can flame each other all day long, and no matter how retarded it gets, you won't be bored.
But maybe you could do that over e-mail, instead of pestering /a/ with your garbage?

>>42089998
>Emperors_Finest !!7tfX9OhowO1

Filtered forever. And god damn, you are retarded with fucking low powerlevel.

>>42089998

No, moe is not objective. Moe is dependent on the individual.

>true moe

>anything I like

lol you are a pretentious faggot.

>>42089998
>/a/
>secretly want to fuck children
>secretly
>secret

tl;dr

mind recommending any other old anime like this?

>>42090043
I haven't even heard of this Yotusba guy before. Thought he was just tripping to keep track of his posts like I was.

He's a usual to trolling /a/ i take it?

a closet pedo too, from the sound of it

Can't we all just get along?

>>42090075

"Key the Metal Idol" is good.

....ignore the hat and stache on my pic, however.

>>42090081
So you admit being new on /a/?

>>42090062
Communism depends on the individual.

Gulags is all part of building socialism.

>>42090097
>"Key the Metal Idol"
Ancient moeshit.

>>42090075
I can recommend old anime, but not anything like Otaku no Video. It's in a league all its own.

>>42090062
>lol you are a pretentious faggot.

"Denied Elitism is a state few ever achieve."

>>42089998
>We all know you secretly want to fuck children
>secretly

wat. /a/ can roughly be divided into two similar groups. Those who want to fuck (pedos and ephebes) and those who wish they could be what the other group fuck.

>>42089998

>Nothing is subjective. Everything is Objective. Stop being pussies.

Nah

Things can be judged objectively, sure, but any chosen objective metric is inherently subjective. Even so, I've gleamed that you're far too young and narrow-minded to practice detached objectivity properly.

In other words; stop trying to far and stay in school, dawg.

>tripping to keep track of your posts
WHEE another one for the filter. if it werent for people like gendo and hox, I'd just filter all "!" in the tripfield and be done with it

>>42090102
>So you admit being new on /a/?

I just don't pay attention to trips. And /a/ is pretty bad when it comes to anime. I'd be better off tracking down the old Anime Expo EZ board for a "good" anime discussion than posting on /a/ usually.

>inb4 someone says go do that, why are you on /a/ then?

>>42090110
Sure, name it

>>42090109
>Ancient "true" moeshit.

fix'd

>>42090156
So you are new. And despite ignoring tripcodes, you are using one yourself. Makes sense.
And why are you on /a/ if other boards are so much better?
To educate the ignorant masses?

You're quite a funny guy, you know.

>Emperors_Finest !!7tfX9OhowO1
>Moralfag
>Normalfag
>Newfag
>Shitposter
>Doesn't know shit about otaku subculture and /a/.
>Tripfag

These type of faggots are worst than （　´_ゝ`） I < 3 annimeh.

>>42090156
>inb4 someone says go do that, why are you on /a/ then?
That's the question

>>42090156
Jesus get the fuck out you worthless piece of shit. /a/ might be shitty but it's still the best place to discuss anime on the internets.

>>42090137
>but any chosen objective metric is inherently subjective

Not to be rude, That's what people with bad taste usually spout off, but in a usually less articulate way.

"hurr just because my taste is different than yours doesn't mean it's shit!"

Actually timmy yes, your taste is shit. Go learn a damn thing or two and get back to us.

>>42090156

>inb4 someone says go do that, why are you on /a/ then?

Stand back, bitches, preemptive brilliance right here.

>>42090163
Bubblegum Crash/Bubblegum Crisis
Gall Force
Project A-Ko
Patlabor
Devil Hunter Yohko
DNA^2
Maison Ikkoku
Urusei Yatsura
All Purpose Cultural Cat Girl Nuku Nuku
Record of Lodoss War
Video Girl Ai
Armor Hunter Mellowlink
Dirty Pair

just a few off the top of my head, it's hard to narrow down a list without knowing what you're really into

>>42090238
I don't think you got what he wrote.

A metric that comes from authority obviously has more relative value, but that doesn't change that it is still subjective.

>>42090238

This post really went places.

>>42090122

lol you dare call anyone an elitist? haha oh wow

>>42090238

Just keep on derping.

>>42090238

>>42090279
Thanks bro

YOU MUST BE SHITTING ME. AN OTAKU NO VIDEO THREAD?!

never change /a/

>>42090283

Yes, I got that. Thank you. But the problem is still people are not looking at things very objectively. They are being subjective "I like this show, so it must be good!" is not objective in the least.

>>42090299
>lol you dare call anyone an elitist? haha oh wow
I was referring to how people are calling me an elitist.


In any case, the main problem at hand is still modern anime fans refusal to actually learn about the medium and it's history. Their abhorrent hatred to anything that's older than 5 years ago is apparent. They jump on fad anime's so quickly even though any veteran anime viewer would be able to weed out the merits of a show at a single glance. They are swelling cheap horrible shows with ratings and money, ensuring more crap gets made in lieu of quality titles.

Newer fans must either be educated, or re-educated somehow. They just are not appreciating anime for being art anymore, and devalue the medium whenever they can.

Or there's the other strategy. Let anime fade away into obscurity for a little while, letting the idiots move on, and then reclaim it once they're done mishandling it's carcass.

>>42090465
>Their abhorrent hatred to anything that's older than 5 years ago is apparent.
Oh what is newer than 5 years.
But show me an anime fan who actually hates older anime.

>>42090460
I never understand how there can be so much hate for gainaxfags on /a/, when anybody who's seen Otaku no Video would realize that gainax is a fucking bro-tier studio.
Then I realize it's because they haven't seen Otaku no Video, and I weep for the youth of today.

>>42090485

Ever been to this Con? Shit's full of them nowadays.

>>42090465
Brofist, if they don't want to get educated let them rot in their shit and they will leave eventually.

>>42090485
Can't hate what you don't watch. You can only hate the people who like it, which a lot of people on /a/ do.

Reminds me of yesterday when somebody started a shitstorm because he said "all anime over 10 years old is obscure unless it had a big influence on its fans" and then proceeded to say that Giant Robo wasn't influential because he had never heard of it - he also admitted he had only been watching anime for four years.

>Emperors_Finest !!7tfX9OhowO1

>>42090497
Otaku no Video came out nearly 20 years ago, and I really wouldn't consider the Gainax then to be the same as Gainax now. Not that I have a problem with either... I'm just saying it's a consideration to make.

>>42090497

well hopefully there are enough who would rather actually experience the art form instead of acquiring knowledge of it through pop-culture osmosis to keep the true love of the genre alive.

I'm good on that era stuff especially (as it was the era I was buying VHS tapes out of the trunk of a car at the asian supermarket)

what else do you like? I was just watching Urusei Yatsura (beautiful dreamer) earlier, also rock my patlabor, tenshi, and Venus Wars cred all day long

Just realized it's 3am FFFFUUUUUUUU

Gonna go finish up "The First Heretic" over a cup of tea and call it a night.

>>42090465

>Yes, I got that. Thank you. But the problem is still people are not looking at things very objectively. They are being subjective "I like this show, so it must be good!" is not objective in the least.
No, you don't get it. Moe has nothing to do with quality. It has completely to do with tastes.
>In any case, the main problem at hand is still modern anime fans refusal to actually learn about the medium and it's history.
They aren't as bad as the nostlagiafags who go around distorting history.
>Their abhorrent hatred to anything that's older than 5 years ago is apparent.
HAHAHA OH WOW. The "hate" against old anime isn't anywhere near as prominent as the nostlagiafgas who hate on the current.
>They jump on fad anime's so quickly even though
Fads always and will always exist.
>any veteran anime viewer would be able to weed out the merits of a show at a single glance.
Pretentious faggotry. Herp derp.
>They are swelling cheap horrible shows with ratings and money, ensuring more crap gets made in lieu of quality titles.
More pretentious faggotry. Anything you dislike = bad.
>Newer fans must either be educated, or re-educated somehow.
Nostalgiafags just as much.
>They just are not appreciating anime for being art anymore, and devalue the medium whenever they can.
>Or there's the other strategy. Let anime fade away into obscurity for a little while, letting the idiots move on, and then reclaim it once they're done mishandling it's carcass.
More vague and pretentious bullshit.

This whole post is garbage.

>>42090586
It's true, a lot can change in 20 years, but even so, many of the original founders still had involvement with recent projects like TTGL and Rebuild, and I'm sure much of the newer talent at Gainax was drawn to them because of the influence early Gainax works had on them - 10 years from now, Mitsu will be the new Karekano (i.e. forgotten but good), TTGL will be the new Eva, PSG will be the new FLCL, and whatever Gainax is working on at the time will be polarizing

>>42090623
well, >>42090279 was a recommendation of stuff I enjoy, if it's any indication of what I like.

>>42090533

You are ignoring the fact that 85% of old vs new arguments are started by nostalgiafags. A few examples of some blatant ignorance on the other side doesn't change this.

Plenty of people are knowledgable enough about older anime and plenty of nosltaigafags are newfags themselves.

>>42090465

>Yes, I got that. Thank you. But the problem is still people are not looking at things very objectively. They are being subjective "I like this show, so it must be good!" is not objective in the least.

The word 'moe' is a colloquialism; everyone has their own definition. There is no global ethos, and no single person has a monopoly on what it means; its definition is entirely subjective. (My god do I sound like a broken record).


Even if 'moe' were in the dictionary, it would be right next to 'beauty' -- based entirely on tastes and preferences. I can sort of relate to what you're saying about people who analyze less than you, and then try to put themselves on the same pedestal. However, at the end of the day, no one has a monopoly on objectivity. You need to get over it.

Also, I realize you were talking about anime, and not just moe, however I believe I covered that already.

My god do I sound like a broken record.

>Even if 'moe' were in the dictionary, it would be right next to 'beauty'

It'd be next to love rather than beauty. Beauty is a trait. Moe is an emotion. "Moe traits" are just traits people find moe.

>>42091251

I'm not in the position to disagree.

Incidentally, tell me what your favourite Beatles album is.