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  • success! will post pictures later this week.

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    84 KB Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:07 No.41849975  
    GAINAAAAAAAAAAAAXXXXXX

    so is this why the rest of the show has been so shittily animated?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:07 No.41849993
    HOLY SHIT
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:09 No.41850046
    >the rest of the show has been so shittily animated
    Troll harder.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:09 No.41850047
    dat halo
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    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:10 No.41850083
    GAINAX GONNA GAINAX
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:10 No.41850088
    This is from today's episode, right?
    Post more, OP.
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)16:11 No.41850115
    >the rest of the show has been so shittily animated
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:13 No.41850157
    Gainax trolled me and it felt good.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:13 No.41850163
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    I'm not quite sure what they were trying to "experiment" in today's episode. I kept quietly thinking "uhh...?" through the whole episode.

    I was still more interested in it than with the other shows this season, yet it was still the weakest episode so far. Who directed this again?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:13 No.41850177
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    >> Waffleman !!ROQTDpFz9VR 10/29/10(Fri)16:14 No.41850185
    >so is this why the rest of the show has been so shittily animated?
    I can already tell you're talking about the art style which =/= animation. The animation in PSG is superb.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:14 No.41850199
    They're trying to take over now that Madhouse are dead.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:15 No.41850215
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    >> (ノ✤▽✤)ノ !1iJPaIase2 10/29/10(Fri)16:15 No.41850222
    >>41850163

    First half = Shin Itagaki (Gurren-Lagann episode 6)
    Second half = Osamu Kobayashi (series director of Beck, Paradise Kiss and Natsu no Sora)
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:16 No.41850232
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    damn episode 4 for winning over my hearto
    >> asdasdasd 10/29/10(Fri)16:16 No.41850237
    >>41850185
    poor troll man, it's not even anime ...

    capta
    you've FeedTitso
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)16:17 No.41850261
    >>41850222
    >kobayashi directs something
    >people don't like it
    I haven't even seen it yet (don't want to watch it on say move, fuck that) but I'm willing to bet that the only people who really hate it are the same MAL fags who think P&S is a "parody" and/or watch it because they think it's "so bad it's good". I'll see if I'm right soon enough.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:17 No.41850264
    The art still look ugly as fuck
    >> Jake the Snake !.IKNKkqT1w 10/29/10(Fri)16:17 No.41850270
    OP is either an idiot with no concept of stylization vs. realism, or he's an idiot who thinks trolling is funny.

    Either way, he's an idiot.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:18 No.41850278
    >>41850222
    Well, duh, I should have guessed.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:18 No.41850288
    >>41850185
    Beyond the first episode, it really hasn't. Show some examples of bits you think were well animated.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:18 No.41850290
    Part 2 takes place in Tokyo, which is why it looks like it that
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:18 No.41850292
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    >>41850185
    >The animation in PSG is superb.
    At times, yes, I'd totally agree with you, the animation can be really nice. At some other times, though? Shit's pretty god-awful.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:19 No.41850297
    As nice as it is to look at, it was fucking boring.

    The best thing about this show is the funny interaction between Panty and Stocking. Episodes that don't feature them at all except for when they turn up to one hit kill the monster are no good. The sperm one wasn't worth watching either.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:20 No.41850342
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    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:21 No.41850354
    >>41850261
    I'm not saying it was bad, but the huge difference in the mood of the show, which came out of nowhere, really baffled me. Even when I knew I was watching PSG.
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)16:21 No.41850375
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    >>41850292
    it's very rarely BAD by TV anime standards really. I could do without the intentionally crude bits that are the P&S equivalent of super deformed WACKY bits in normal anime (even if this one way funny) but even during these bits the art is more expressive and has more thought put into it than most of the stuff out there.
    >> Only listing obvious bits... (ノ✤▽✤)ノ !1iJPaIase2 10/29/10(Fri)16:22 No.41850385
    >>41850288

    The bees in episode 3.
    The movie sequences in episode 4.
    Akira Amemiya's action in episode 5.
    The explosion in episode 6.
    The tittymonster in episode 7.
    Episode 8 was indeed mostly quite lame.
    Episode 9's climax was awesome from beginning to end.
    Episode 10 had great animation from beginning to end, as well.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:22 No.41850388
    Gainax trolled
    We rolled
    EPIC
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:24 No.41850429
    >>41850297
    Gotta say I agree here. Still watching this show to the very end, no doubt that.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:24 No.41850459
    >ITT: NO INSULTING MY FLAVOR OF THE MONTH ANIME ITS THE BEST ANIME EVER NOTHING IS WRONG WITH IT I TOTALLY WONT FORGET ABOUT IT RIGHT AFTER ITS OVER
    its been like this since the beginning, you fags are pathetic.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:25 No.41850471
    >>41850297
    >The best thing about this show is the funny interaction between Panty and Stocking. Episodes that don't feature them at all except for when they turn up to one hit kill the monster are no good.
    And episode 4, which didn't even feature a monster, is probably still the best one so far.
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)16:26 No.41850494
    >>41850385
    episode 4 was well done from beginning to end for what it was

    you don't need action for expressive animation and that episode proved it
    >>41850354
    I'm pretty sure this was meant to be a show all about giving the staff freedom from the get-go, it's just that Kobayashi is the first one who did something TOTALLY different.
    >> (ノ✤▽✤)ノ !1iJPaIase2 10/29/10(Fri)16:26 No.41850508
    >>41850471

    I thought I was the only one that liked episode 4 (almost) the best!
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:26 No.41850511
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    ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA

    fuck yeah panty
    >> Nonoriri !!qNvS3vir9ht 10/29/10(Fri)16:26 No.41850513
    Oh right I gotta watch this one.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:27 No.41850540
    >>41850385
    The animation in PSG is limited and flat, horribly trying to mimic the flash animation of the west, the only good animation in the show was the Magical Girl transformation sequence by Shouko Nakamura, where the style changed, everything else has been really subpar.

    You Gainax fans really love to gobble up everything they throw at you. Heck, Shikabane Hime was animated better.
    >> (ノ✤▽✤)ノ !1iJPaIase2 10/29/10(Fri)16:27 No.41850543
    >>41850494

    Of course, but I was only listing flashy notorious bits everyone, and not just sakugafags like us, can appreciate.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:27 No.41850555
    >>41850297
    >The sperm one wasn't worth watching either.

    It had some good parts, like the whole D-Day bit and Stocking being moe.
    >> (ノ✤▽✤)ノ !1iJPaIase2 10/29/10(Fri)16:28 No.41850561
    >>41850540

    Atsushi Nishigori animated that bit, you know.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:28 No.41850568
    If you didn't like this episode, consider yourself trolled.
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)16:28 No.41850576
    >>41850540
    >horribly trying to mimic the flash animation of the west
    Dexter's Lab, PPG and Samurai Jack were not made in Flash, and the ANIMATION (i.e. the movement) is very distinctively Japanese. please google search Yoshinori Kanada.
    >the only good animation in the show was the Magical Girl transformation sequence by Shouko Nakamura,
    that was nishigori you dumbshit
    >> Nonoriri !!qNvS3vir9ht 10/29/10(Fri)16:29 No.41850582
    >>41850540
    You can do better than that.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:29 No.41850592
    >>41850459
    how do you know people will forget it faggot mabye people just actually like it i know i do
    >> Keaton !K0B31HiDAA 10/29/10(Fri)16:29 No.41850603
    >>41850385

    The fuck? Episodes 3-8 all looked like garbage. There was nothing in any of those episodes comparable to the transformation + attack in episode 1, or the entirety of episode 2 (dodging police cars, bullet train, etc.)
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:29 No.41850606
    >>41850494
    >Kobayashi is the first one who did something TOTALLY different.
    pretty much this. P&S definitely feels like a playground series for the staff. Considering this is Gainax we're talking about, I'd hate to think there's anybody watching this show who's going to complain about it being "too different"
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:29 No.41850608
    >>41850540

    The only relevant English-speaking animation expert disagrees:

    >I'm also enjoying Hiroyuki Imaishi's latest effort Panty & Stocking. At least it's full of energy. Every shot is packed with some interesting action or joke. It seems like a return to the silly, slapstick, all-out-crazy tone of Dead Leaves. This show feels a lot more like pure Imaishi than Guren Lagan, though I'm not sure whether that's a good thing or not. I'm not too keen on the 2D styling or the content, but I'm enjoying the show nonetheless. Pure silly fun, like a cross between Powerpuff Girls, Dead Leaves and Ebichu. The sperm story in episode 3 was inspired.

    >I find it sad that humor in anime always has to be as broad and simple-minded as possible. The jokes in this show are funny because they're more risque and adult and something of an improvement over the usual approach to sex in anime, which irritatingly pussyfoots around the subject with bloody noses and exaggerated shyness, but it's still sex and shit jokes. I want to see humor with the sort of wry, understated wit of, say, My Dog Tulip, not the adult version of preschool potty jokes. But at least Imaishi has his own brand of humor that doesn't feel like any other anime out there. Whatever you might say about the show, the fact is that Imaishi is one of the only people in the industry besides Yuasa right now who has enough talent to be the ground-up guiding vision behind a show like this. The vast majority of people in the industry lack the vision to come up with their own comprehensive visual ethos and approach to animation the way Imaishi does. That alone makes this show vastly more watchable than anything on air right now, including the above Bones show. The skilled animation in that show feels so wasted.

    http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/index.php?title=new_shows_1&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
    >> WHERE IS THE GOD DAMN TORRENT Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 10/29/10(Fri)16:30 No.41850624
    argggh
    >> Nonoriri !!qNvS3vir9ht 10/29/10(Fri)16:31 No.41850640
    >>41850624
    Where it always is.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:31 No.41850652
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    >>41850540
    >>41850459
    You don't really have to bring everything to such extremes.
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)16:31 No.41850657
    >>41850608
    >The only relevant English-speaking animation expert
    I hope you mean JAPANESE animation.

    it's funny because someone called him close minded for his views on star driver and saying that P&S has better writing.
    >close minded
    >hates poop and dick jokes
    >watched P&S, appreciated and enjoyed it anyway
    >CLOSE MINDED
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:32 No.41850688
    >>41850608
    tldr Panty and Stocking is boring shit.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:32 No.41850691
    ITT: HATERS GONNA HATE AND LOVERS GONNA LOVE
    >> (ノ✤▽✤)ノ !1iJPaIase2 10/29/10(Fri)16:32 No.41850694
    >>41850603

    The animation was clearly more limited, but it was still very polished and unified and had a bunch of bits of great animation here and there. Of course there is nothing on par with Yoshinari's attack in episode 1, but that doesn't mean it is worthless or uninteresting. Gurren-Lagann didn't really match the amazing "break through the heavens" sequence in episode 1 until the Giga Drill Breaker in episode 8, but that doesn't make episodes 2-7 badly animated.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:32 No.41850706
    >>41850222
    Oh, so it's a guy from madhouse staff, cool
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:33 No.41850721
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    I was kinda hoping Panty and Stocking would also look and move like the rest of the characters did in this episode.

    I would like to see them just have some in-betweens once in a while. Animation can only be so limited and choppy before it becomes hard to follow.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:33 No.41850725
    >>41850540
    That's cute. Tell us more about the intricate arcanes of animation, o receptacle of infinite knowledge
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:33 No.41850726
    >>41850540

    you are just trying to hard...
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:33 No.41850737
    I feel like I got spoiled by the images but I'm really looking forward to the episode now
    >> Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 10/29/10(Fri)16:34 No.41850751
    >>41850640
    not yet it isn't
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:34 No.41850761
    I HATE THIS SHOW SO LET'S EXPLAIN TO THE ONES THAT LIKE THIS SHOW WHY I HATE THE SHOW!

    HURR DURR I AM A HUGE FAGGOT PLEASE RAPE MY FACE
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)16:34 No.41850764
    >>41850603
    >not on par with the first episode
    >garbage
    you must really hate most anime, the first episode is always one of the best

    >>41850694 also fucking this
    >> (ノ✤▽✤)ノ !1iJPaIase2 10/29/10(Fri)16:34 No.41850772
    >>41850640

    HorribleSubs version isn't.
    >> Nonoriri !!qNvS3vir9ht 10/29/10(Fri)16:35 No.41850793
    >>41850751
    You must be looking in the wrong place then.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:36 No.41850815
    to be honest, seeing the screenshots i was very hyped to see the second part of todays episode, however it was very...boring actually
    the part with p&s was nice, the rest was the life your typical japanese employee or something, even if there is more in the dialogue, it was still very very very slow paced, something i don't like, especially not in p&sg
    but the backgrounds sure looked nice
    >> Nonoriri !!qNvS3vir9ht 10/29/10(Fri)16:36 No.41850823
    >>41850772
    Well it is up, but yeah not HS it seems.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:36 No.41850835
    This looks like Kemonozuma (or whatever that show wa called)
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:36 No.41850848
    >>41850624
    Crunchyroll
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:37 No.41850867
    >>41850688
    You are so an epic win troll XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
    >> Keaton !K0B31HiDAA 10/29/10(Fri)16:37 No.41850869
    >>41850694

    >had a bunch of bits of great animation here and there

    Where? The ONLY reason I watch this show is for the animation (since the writing is entirely awful) and I've yet to see anything in subsequent episodes on par with episode 2, let alone the transformation sequence.

    Haven't seen eps 9 + 10 yet though.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:38 No.41850893
    for the slowpokes; http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=169231
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:38 No.41850911
    >>41850608
    Holy fuck at those comments, BONES throw away their genga once they are done with them?!
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:38 No.41850914
    >>41850375
    >I could do without the intentionally crude bits that are the P&S equivalent of super deformed WACKY bits in normal anime
    That's partly what I was talking about. Those bits (and a few others) seemed fairly stiff and poorly animated to me which stifled my enjoyment of the show. It's because of moments like those that I feel I just can't say that P&SwG is amazingly animated as a whole. It has some bad bits and some great bits, but I think overall, it's just "good".
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:39 No.41850918
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    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)16:39 No.41850924
    >>41850869
    IT'S THE FIRST EPISODE. they always put more money and effort into first episodes, the occasional major episode and the finale will always look better!

    like he said, just because the average Gurren ep wasn't on par with ep 1, 8, 15 or 27 does not mean the rest is badly animated - far from it. it's just not as good.
    >> Nonoriri !!qNvS3vir9ht 10/29/10(Fri)16:39 No.41850948
    >>41850911
    Can't think of much else they could do with them.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:40 No.41850963
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    Even if you didn't like this episode as much as what it could have been, the next week will be almost certainly different again.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:40 No.41850972
    Wow, this thread was attacked by very touchy people.
    The animation IS bad for 80% of the episode. When its not an action sequences, it looks like its skipping more frames than an anime made in the 70s.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:40 No.41850986
    >>41850948
    I guess so... it just feels like a waste to throw all that hard work away..
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:41 No.41851011
    SUBS FUCKING WHERE?!
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:42 No.41851019
    was this episode made by the same guy who did that one infamous scene in flcl?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:42 No.41851025
    Where's that Shinobuden screenshot where the ninjas talk about anime having the good animation only in the first and last episodes?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:42 No.41851032
    >>41850972
    Nop
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)16:42 No.41851042
    >>41850972
    the action skips frames too (except for Yoshinari's bit because he has a different style), that's just how yoshinori kanada animation works.

    feel free to complain about the immature humor and whatnot but saying P&S looks bad by anime standards is ridiculous.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:43 No.41851051
    Episode 4 was the fat episode right? And we're on 5 now?
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)16:43 No.41851052
    >>41851019
    >that one infamous scene in flcl?
    what infamous scene?

    if you mean shinya ohira in ep 2 then def. no
    >> (ノ✤▽✤)ノ !1iJPaIase2 10/29/10(Fri)16:43 No.41851065
    >>41850869

    I already listed them; if you didn't notice them, then just drop the show, Kanada-style animation clearly isn't for you. Regardless, rather than the animation, I personally believe that the style, atmosphere and direction is the reason to watch Panty & Stocking: the show has a very genuine "I don't give a shit" attitude, it's probably the most "honest" show of 2010, by far.

    >>41850972

    It has more movement and key-frames than Tatami Galaxy and Mononoke, two of the most gorgeous shows of the past 10 or so years. Animation isn't about the number of key-frames.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:43 No.41851073
    >>41850963
    >the next week will be almost certainly different again.
    Yeah because that's when the actual story starts.

    PREPARE FOR GAINAXING NEXT WEEK
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:44 No.41851093
    >>41851011
    >>41851011
    >>41851011
    >>41851011
    >>41851011
    >>41851011
    >>41851011
    THIS
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:44 No.41851095
    I remember when you faggots were telling us Yoshinari would be animating amazing action scenes every other episode.

    He may have done the bees or other little bits, but so far the only piece of animation that really stands out as his scene in the first episode.

    It can be funny sure, in a stilted kinda Japanese way, but where is all the awesome action? Amemiya's bit in episode 5 was okay, but you know there's a problem when the best thing in an episode directed by Sushio is a CG sequence
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:44 No.41851099
    >>41851073
    wow, you don't even know what gainaxing means. Fucking idiot.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:45 No.41851104
    >>41850948
    sell them to collectors. at least it'd net them some profit.
    >> (ノ✤▽✤)ノ !1iJPaIase2 10/29/10(Fri)16:45 No.41851119
    Next episode will probably have Yoshinari again. Yoshinari ALWAYS works in the Imaishi-storyboarded episodes.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:45 No.41851123
    >>41851073
    Any info who directs the next weeks episodes?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:45 No.41851131
    >>41851065
    >It has more movement and key-frames than Tatami Galaxy

    Come one now, as much as I like P&S... you're really stretching it.. what do I call you, "funky eyes tripfag"?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:46 No.41851147
    >>41851099
    >implying it actually means something
    rofl
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:46 No.41851152
    >>41851099
    Words made up by the 12 year olds on TV Tropes are not real words, you fucking piece of shit newfag.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:46 No.41851155
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    mfw gainax uses shitty animation for p&s because theyre running out of funds and occasional throw in some well animated transformation scenes
    >> (ノ✤▽✤)ノ !1iJPaIase2 10/29/10(Fri)16:47 No.41851172
    >>41851095
    >but you know there's a problem when the best thing in an episode directed by Sushio is a CG sequence

    See-Thru evading the falling cars wasn't CG. Sure, the falling cars in the background were CG, but See-Thru itself was 2D.

    Regarding Yoshinari, he is probably a little bit busy because he works as "background director", which basically indirectly involves him in every episode.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:47 No.41851174
    >>41851052
    i guess that one
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g5D8UnJfHw&feature=related at 8:40
    it just seemed very similar to me, and since both of this is was made by gainax
    >> Takeshi Shudō (deceased) 10/29/10(Fri)16:47 No.41851190
    >>41851152
    The word "gainaxing" has been around since the 1980s.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:48 No.41851215
    >>41851152
    Sorry, but we've been talking about gainax this way since before tvtropes existed
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    >>41851152
    >>41851147
    It's because of people like you that /a/ is shit.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:49 No.41851217
    >>41851152
    >you fucking piece of shit newfag.
    Oh, the irony.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:49 No.41851221
    >>41851104
    I wouldn't be surprised if they recycle all their paper so they can get it back cheaper. Animation paper is expensive.

    Cels were even worse. Many studios would actually clean the paint and ink of used cels and reuse them, resulting in them slowly getting dirtier and dirtier. Thankfully computers put an end to that.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:49 No.41851223
    >>41851065
    >>41851042
    It IS poorly animated. When I watch P&S, its like watching a CD i cutscene.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:49 No.41851241
    Sure glad I have a crunchyroll account and watched it an hour and a half ago derp
    >> (ノ✤▽✤)ノ !1iJPaIase2 10/29/10(Fri)16:49 No.41851248
    >>41851131

    Tatami Galaxy was REALLY limited, actually. Most episodes had 5-6 key-animators. Episode 2, or was it 3?, was particularly limited.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:50 No.41851254
    >Regarding Yoshinari, he is probably a little bit busy because he works as "background director"

    What does he do? Is this credited as something
    >> Keaton !K0B31HiDAA 10/29/10(Fri)16:50 No.41851255
    This show in general is barely even animated. What you call "visually expressive" is barely any different from SD shit. Giving your characters exaggerated mannerisms is NOT particularly inventive or creative. Tatami Galaxy physically manifested its characters feelings and emotions. Now there's a show that's visually interesting.
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)16:50 No.41851271
    >>41851155
    >my face when you haven't even watched the show and are trying to troll
    >>41851095
    I assume they're saving the fights for the second half. you can't have an ENTIRE TV SERIES that's like Dead Leaves - it would just get totally fucking old unless you spice it up with stuff like Shouko Nakamura's ep.

    and you don't need action for good animation - before P&S's non-action episodes, Tatami Galaxy was perfect proof of that. the fact that there were people who thought it had "good art but bad animation" or whatever the shit boggles my mind.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:51 No.41851284
    >>41851223

    What can I tell you? That you clearly don't know shit about animation?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:51 No.41851294
    >>41851052

    I WISH Ohira was working on this.

    Yasunori Miyazawa, where? Please God (or Imaishi), make it happen.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:51 No.41851297
    >>41851241
    >he pays to stream anime
    sure glad I speak moon and already watched this two hours ago
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:52 No.41851311
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    >my face when nobody talks about the content of the show because the shitty attention whore art style is all it has
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:53 No.41851358
    The fuck faggots?
    Subs has been downloadable for at least an hour now.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:54 No.41851370
    >>41851284
    I'm actually an animator who works with rough draft studios. I think I know a thing or two. All of you defending the animation for this excluding the first episode are either gainax fanboys, or really don't know shit and think it looks good.
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)16:54 No.41851372
    >>41851255
    >Giving your characters exaggerated mannerisms is NOT particularly inventive or creative.
    that's like saying "making the characters subtly expressive is NOT creative and thus bad solely because it's been done before". whether you personally like it or not saying that Imaishi's style, Kanada influences and all, is not unique as hell is very questionable.

    it's so blatant that you just don't like the style, I'm not sure why everyone doesn't just admit that and pulls the "half assed animation" or "bad writing" card to somehow justify their opinion
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:54 No.41851374
    >>41851297
    日本人にでも分かりにくい作品だと思わない?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:54 No.41851382
    >>41851337
    Is a comedy with action bits, how much you can discuss about it?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:55 No.41851387
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    >gainaxfags hype this shit for the animation
    >Ore no Imouto has better animation
    >> (ノ✤▽✤)ノ !1iJPaIase2 10/29/10(Fri)16:55 No.41851391
    >>41851255

    The scene composition in Panty & Stocking is what is interesting. Every scene is chockfull of content. It's filled with visual energy. Really, this discussion is pretty pointless. We're both going on and with the same absolutely empty arguments that rely on opinion. You say that "Panty & Stocking doesn't use visuals to reflect the feelings of the characters" but provide no real arguments to support such a statement.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:55 No.41851414
    >>41851387
    Yeah, except no.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:56 No.41851418
    >>41851337
    It's been mostly episodic humor so far. It's funny, it makes us laugh. What else is there to talk about until PLOT KICKS IN YO?

    The only people who bring up the art style are all trolls, the rest of us don't really care.
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)16:56 No.41851423
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    >>41851370
    >comparing stylish imaishi animation with cdi cutscenes
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Rhpee8qVI is this the kind of stuff you work on?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:56 No.41851425
    >>41851248

    I might get jumped on for this, but I think a lot of that was intentional in Yuasa's part. Or at least he directed intelligently around the lack or budget/time. He's Morimoto school, I don't think he's an approximating director, he gets exactly what he wants and works that in with all the technical shortcuts he takes.

    Having a small team of lead animators doesn't necessarily result in REALLY limited animation either.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:56 No.41851443
    >>41851370

    Pelleas' Ben praised it. I seriously doubt you have even half the appreciation of animation that he has.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:56 No.41851448
    Panty feel so good, my dick come in her many times, then Stocking buttfucked me with strapon and I came on Panty's face many time. I love Panty and Stocking, and they love my magnum. <3
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:57 No.41851455
    >>41851065
    None of the bits you listed are even vaguely close to the best bits of the first and second episodes (and I'm not talking about the transformation sequence).

    You are definitely correct that good animation =/= number of in-betweens, but there's a limit to how few you can get away with, especially if it's not backed up by clear posing, good composition and suchlike (which P&S absolutely does not have, since it seems to be going out of its way to be cluttered most of the time).
    >> Arantheus !3GBkS3whmc 10/29/10(Fri)16:57 No.41851458
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    >>41849975
    the top is what gainax did either because they are poor or a bunch of lazy faggots

    the bottom is what they wanted to do
    >> Arantheus !3GBkS3whmc 10/29/10(Fri)16:58 No.41851482
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    >>41851459
    >> §tocking !Do4Hmq/BkI 10/29/10(Fri)16:58 No.41851486
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    Came here after watching it three times. First segment was crude and funny. Best part was the nose fucking. Second segment, GAINAXXXXXXXXX!!! Fucking trolled and loved it
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:58 No.41851487
    >>41851459
    Yeah, the bottom sure looks like an american cartoon, you are trying anymore?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:58 No.41851490
    >>41851418
    >>41851382
    and yet comedy anime such as Arakawa, SnO and Mistudomoe had threads constantly about the actual content of the show
    >> (ノ✤▽✤)ノ !1iJPaIase2 10/29/10(Fri)16:59 No.41851491
    >>41851425

    Of course it was intentional. What does that has to do with what I said? Tatami Galaxy was filled with still frames and had animation notably more limited than the animation in your average anime. That doesn't make the animation bad, but it is clearly more limited in movement than Panty & Stocking.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:59 No.41851506
    Is there going to be a point where this show gets actually consistently funny?

    Or is it still going to be "one good joke per episode at most" for the whole season?
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)16:59 No.41851507
    >>41851455
    >clear posing, good composition and suchlike (which P&S absolutely does not have
    lol
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:59 No.41851511
    >>41851443
    Who exactly is this person and what are his credentials?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:59 No.41851512
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    >>41851172
    No man, it is blatant CG. The model is actually pretty low res. Also the lines are doing a thing they often do in cel-shaded CG where they taper towards the tips. Also Panty and Stocking in the car are blatently CG.

    The only thing in that sequence that wasn't CG was the bursts of smokke from the tires
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:59 No.41851523
    >>41851423
    No didn't actually. But
    >imaishi
    Another hoard of people praising this shit are the imaishi fanboys as well. It won't matter how poorly this looks, you'll defend it because of him right?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)16:59 No.41851526
    >>41851490
    Not really
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:00 No.41851536
    >>41851374
    I only read 2chan's comments, mostly, but they seem to be very entertained by it. The visual style switch in part 2 of today's ep spawned a bunch of "WTF" comments, but they don't bitch and moan about the art style like the western trolls.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:00 No.41851538
    >>41851487
    butthurt cause your favorite show has shitty animation. its as bad as one piece if not worse
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:00 No.41851541
    >>41851248
    >Tatami Galaxy was REALLY limited, actually. Most episodes had 5-6 key-animators.

    If I recall correctly there was usual a big amount of seconds

    P&S is the first time a lot of young Gainax animators work on something substantial (i.e not Hanamaru). It's a bit different from Gurrens all-star staff but it's been pretty great so far. I wonder what people disappointed in it think of the animation in other shows airing and how they compare to understand where they come form a bit better.
    >> Keaton !K0B31HiDAA 10/29/10(Fri)17:00 No.41851552
    >>41851391

    Right, and you're using nondescript terms like 'visual energy".

    I suppose I'll have to make a load of .gifs if we want this conversation to continue.

    >>41851455

    Thank you for nailing something I couldn't find the words for. "Cluttered" is a great way to describe this show. It's an unattractive eyesore.
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)17:00 No.41851555
    >>41851506
    1. realize that comedy can be visual in nature
    2. rewatch all the episodes
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:00 No.41851556
    >>41851455

    The only person worth reading regarding Japanese animation, Pelleas' Ben, said that the scene composition and overall style of the show is clearly a notch above the scene composition and overall style of any other show this season. How does that make you feel, smugfag?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:00 No.41851557
    >Fucking trolled and loved it
    Even as a fan of the show I don't understand what was so "fucking trolled" about the second episode, it was depressing.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:01 No.41851568
    >>41851512
    That and a cop car actually intersects it at one point, which wouldn't happen if they composited 2D animation into the scene
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:02 No.41851607
    >>41851557
    It makes more sense to people familiar with Japanese work environments.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:02 No.41851622
    >>41851555
    No, I'm pretty aware that comedy can be visual by nature.


    But I'm not seeing a whole lot of that.

    And come on, the writing has not been stellar.
    There's a difference between mentioning sex/toilet stuff and actually making a JOKE about it.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:03 No.41851645
    >>41851506
    It'll remain one good joke an episode. Basically P&S is like current simpsons, but the fags will still call it the best thing ever simply because its an anime. Had it been an american cartoon, these people would have hated it.
    >> §tocking !Do4Hmq/BkI 10/29/10(Fri)17:03 No.41851655
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    >>41851448
    related
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)17:04 No.41851662
    >>41851568
    >That and a cop car actually intersects it at one point
    pic plz

    I thought See-Through was obviously 2D but if it somehow wasn't then it's the best CG ever and does not deserve such bitching
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)17:05 No.41851688
    >>41851645
    Panty & Stocking and The Simpsons can't be compared, they're totally fucking different shows with totally fucking different humor

    how come 99% of the criticism I read against this show is written by people who are completely dense?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:06 No.41851697
    >>41851556
    Still doesn't explain who he is. What, just some blogger?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:06 No.41851698
    >>41851511

    Benjamin Ettinger, a recognized film critic that specializes in animation. He mostly works for film festivals as jury, "selector" and translator.

    http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:06 No.41851705
    >>41851555
    THIS

    The show has an enormous amount of visual gags. Given its sometimes frantic pacing, if you bother to look at the subtitles, you're probably going to be missing out on a LOT of what happens in the show.

    "Why is this funny? All they do is say bitch and fuck over and over"
    Meanwhile, there's people in the background fucking, and some dude's on fire for no reason, and you are missing it all.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:06 No.41851713
    >>41851556
    >The only person worth reading regarding Japanese animation, Pelleas' Ben
    And WHO is he? Why is he "the only person worth reading"? What are his credentials? What makes him an expert? Has he worked in the industry? Has he made animation with this own hands? Or is he just a critic?

    He and you apparently do not have a clue what composition even means in this context. It basically means organising the elements of the image in a clear, readable, ordered, and sensible fashion. P&S lacks this because most of it is spikes, lines, jagged edges, and things going in all different directions with no order or design going on to lead your eye to the focus of the scene. It is cluttered.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:07 No.41851720
    >>41851705
    >there's people in the background fucking, and some dude's on fire for no reason
    ....so nothing funny.
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)17:07 No.41851733
    >>41851705
    >Given its sometimes frantic pacing, if you bother to look at the subtitles, you're probably going to be missing out on a LOT of what happens in the show.
    people don't even pay attention to these things in fact I feel that most "adult, mature and intelligent" anime fans treat watching anime like reading a book
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:07 No.41851734
    >>41851705
    >It's funny because there are all these jokes you are missing.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:07 No.41851739
    Why did they suddenly make it DEPRESSING AS FUCK? Terao-san. ;_;
    >> §tocking !Do4Hmq/BkI 10/29/10(Fri)17:07 No.41851744
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    >>41851557
    Felt like I was watching a different show with the art style of a fucked up Paranoid Agent which the show was suppose to be a comedy and not a realistic outing of the life of a older Japanese office worker. Probably, maybe... assume a tribute to Kon-san
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)17:09 No.41851773
    >>41851713
    see
    >>41851698
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    >this thread
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:09 No.41851780
    >>41851705
    people in the background fucking is not all that funny though if it's just there without clever juxtaposition.

    Give me something really funny to -focus- on, instead of shoehorning gags into the background.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:09 No.41851781
    >>41851713
    >a clear, readable, ordered, and sensible fashion.

    They are. They're cluttered but clear and ordered. If you really can't tell what is happening in a Panty & Stocking scene... I really don't know what to tell you.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:09 No.41851782
    >>41851688
    >how come 99% of the criticism I read against this show is written by people who are completely dense?
    Completely typical.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:09 No.41851790
    >>41851698
    >At least it's full of energy.
    >I'm not sure whether that's a good thing or not.
    >I'm not too keen on the 2D styling or the content, but I'm enjoying the show nonetheless.
    He basically said its meh.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:10 No.41851808
    >>41851781
    To play devil's advocate, just because you can tell what's going on doesn't mean it's organized well.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:10 No.41851810
    >>41851790

    He said it's better than everything else airing this season.
    >> §tocking !Do4Hmq/BkI 10/29/10(Fri)17:10 No.41851820
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    >>41851720
    >assuming that visual comedy is not comedy
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:11 No.41851841
    >>41851790
    >...vastly more watchable than anything on air right now...

    How about it, man?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:11 No.41851843
    >>41851733
    Agreed. Since I've pushed my moonspeak abilities to the point where I can understand raws, I've actually started rewatching a lot of shows from when I was younger, and am appreciating them in ways I did not before.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:11 No.41851851
    >>41851810
    It's probably the only thing he watched.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:11 No.41851857
    So let me get this straight;

    Haters gonna bitch and moan about every little fallacy that pushes P&S away from being the perfect anime.

    Lovers gonna eat shit and cocks while defending a show they genuinely enjoy.

    I'm gonna watch and enjoy this show myself, but reserve judgement until I've seen it all like a normal person.

    Guys, just shut the fuck up. Ya'll look like retards.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:11 No.41851860
    >It basically means organising the elements of the image in a clear, readable, ordered, and sensible fashion

    Not it does not. It only means
    >organising the elements of the image
    and
    >spikes, lines, jagged edges, and things going in all different directions
    is a large part of what the show gets it style from.
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)17:12 No.41851866
    >>41851790
    way to take shit out of context
    >The vast majority of people in the industry lack the vision to come up with their own comprehensive visual ethos and approach to animation the way Imaishi does. That alone makes this show vastly more watchable than anything on air right now, including the above Bones show. The skilled animation in that show feels so wasted.
    he says it's "vastly" better than anime anime airing now - if that's not a huge compliment then I don't know what it is
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:12 No.41851874
    >>41851622
    >There's a difference between mentioning sex/toilet stuff and actually making a JOKE about it.
    In Japan it's so taboo to talk about that stuff in public that just saying it so directly is funny/shocking in itself.
    >> Keaton !K0B31HiDAA 10/29/10(Fri)17:12 No.41851879
    >>41851841
    >>41851810

    Really not surprising an animation critic would prefer the only show of the season that tries to do anything out of the norm, regardless of how much it actually succeeds.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:12 No.41851883
    >>41851820
    you're not a very good reader, because that person didn't say that comedy =/= comedy, but that the things described were not all that funny.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:12 No.41851887
    >>41851688
    I never said its just like the simpsons for its jokes. I said it has like one good joke, and the rest of the episode is a snore. Aren't you the idiot for not reading correctly?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:13 No.41851896
    >>41851866
    >he says it's "vastly" better than anime anime airing now
    So he has shit taste. Good for him.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:13 No.41851898
    >>41851851

    He mentioned he watched Star Driver just a few paragraphs above, man.
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)17:14 No.41851930
    >>41851851
    grasping at straws are we
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:14 No.41851935
    >>41851898
    Star Driver is better than this crap
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:14 No.41851937
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    >They're cluttered but clear and ordered.
    The words "cluttered" and "ordered" are antithetical.

    "clut·ter
       /ˈklʌtər/ Show Spelled[kluht-er] Show IPA
    –verb (used with object)
    1.
    to fill or litter with things in a disorderly manner:"

    Do you seriously think images like this are clear? Organised? Readable?

    You're just proving that you're talking out of your ass and have no visual sense nor experience in the field.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:15 No.41851947
    >>41851898
    didn't he also mention that he didn't like it? too arsed to go check for myself, but I seem to recall having read that a couple days ago
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)17:15 No.41851952
    >>41851879
    he recognizes it both in technical skill and creativity

    it's obvious that you just don't like the style bro
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:15 No.41851967
    >>41851866
    >>41851841
    That's like saying he'd rather look at piss than diaherra.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:15 No.41851968
    >>41851874
    So that means it's going to be completely blase for a western audience.

    Gee I wondered why I wasn't laughing at all during all these episodes.

    I sure hope to goodness this show gets a good dub like Shin-Chan or Super Milk Chan. You know, a good joke dub. Something I'd consistently find humorous.

    Because if this is just "shock so it's funny" then I can't see why so many people would like it. It's not like Tom Green is so damn funny, either.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:16 No.41851987
    >>41851937
    cluttered but with intention, is what I think he meant

    essentially, they know they're raping your eyes with the scene composition. that's the point.
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    >this guy said it is the best so it is.
    yeah right, meanwhile Princess Jellyfish, Squid Girl and Arakawa are funnier and more enjoyably overall than this.
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    >>41851662
    If it was 2D the CG elements would only ever be behind or in front of the car. Not intersecting it.

    >I thought See-Through was obviously 2D but if it somehow wasn't then it's the best CG ever
    wow really? You're easily impressed. It's only got a simple deformation on it
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)17:17 No.41852006
    >>41851937
    >01_15-20_YOUREFUCKINLATEBITCH.jpg
    are you this guy http://jonathantheharris.blogspot.com/? because he replied to one of my comments with the exact same picture with the exact same file name

    if so then wow I didn't know you went from generally loving episode 1 (while disliking some scenes) to hating it so much
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:17 No.41852014
    >>41851937

    Show me how that scene is hard to read or confusing, please. Show to me with clear, hard theory and not just by saying "I'm an expert".
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:18 No.41852033
    >>41851987
    So if you do something poorly, but say "I intended it to be so!", does that excuse you from doing something poorly?

    I don't hate the show (i don't really like it either), but bad composition is bad composition no matter what.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:18 No.41852042
    >>41851952
    Whenever someone tries something completely different its a big deal to critics. Like when the Matrix came out, it was the first time using those techniques in live action and critics praised it for that. The movie itself is alright, and since then the techniques have been improved.
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    >>41851860
    >Not it does not. It only means
    >organising the elements of the image
    "Organisation" inherently implies clarity, readability, sensibility, and functionality. This is why things are organised in any context.

    >>spikes, lines, jagged edges, and things going in all different directions
    >is a large part of what the show gets it style from.
    So being ugly is a style?

    What's most annoying is that it could easily have been just this stylised without being so grating on the eyes all the time.
    >> Fire Lord !AZULaFMcQ. 10/29/10(Fri)17:19 No.41852069
    This was okay but they need to come up with a story or some new jokes or it'll be as boring as the cartoons it's based upon.
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)17:20 No.41852092
    >>41851990
    ...well shit I guess you're right. serves me right for taking (ノ✤▽✤)ノ's thoughts as objective fact again.

    the "best CG ever" thing was a joke but really, it was EXTREMELY well integrated. this, that one bit of (non-Mugan) 3D CG in Lagann-hen and the bullet time bits in FLCL are further proof that Gainax are some of the only people in Japan who can use 3D CG well.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:20 No.41852096
    >>41852033

    Saying bad composition is bad composition doesn't meak it real. Where is the cold, hard proof, expert? At least IC-tards red-line shit to show fucked-up anatomy!
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:21 No.41852114
    >>41851780
    oh wow, this show is clearly custom made for you, you, and you only
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:21 No.41852121
    >it's like american cartoons so it's good
    But American cartoons are shit now thanks to Tartakovsky.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:21 No.41852124
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    What's up with these cluttered compositions and lines pointing in all directions?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:21 No.41852137
    ITT: P&S/imaishi/gainax fanboys getting their asses handed to them with facts and images, while they simply say lol u mad XD
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:21 No.41852141
    >>41852014
    I'm not the guy you're quoting, but c'mon, you have to be blind to think that's a clear and easy-to-read image.

    There's so much being jammed in that one picture, that even watching the episode previously, I had to look a while just to figure out what's going on.

    There's no sense of breathing room or organization. That and that Helicopter pic posted a few posts back feel like to me "Let's put as much into a scene as possible" without remembering the maxim that sometimes, less is more.
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)17:21 No.41852142
    >>41852066
    answer me plox
    >>41852006
    >What's most annoying is that it could easily have been just this stylised without being so grating on the eyes all the time.
    because the blog you're taking this from just criticized a handful of bits and said that the episode in general had tons of awesome animation, it was far from going on about how it's grating "all the time" so if you're trying to parrot someone else's views you are failing
    >> Keaton !K0B31HiDAA 10/29/10(Fri)17:22 No.41852170
    I liked the style of this show in eps 1 and 2. But those two episodes (ep 2 in particular) were full of constant movement and kinetic energy. The strength of P&S was that it didn't dwell on scenes like most anime. Since then, the show has been completely reliant on gaudy mannerisms and expressions along with its awful sense of humor.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:23 No.41852181
    >>41851990
    So, you had so much free time you watched the first episode in slow-mo to see if they're clipping?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:23 No.41852182
    >>41852033
    >So if you do something poorly, but say "I intended it to be so!", does that excuse you from doing something poorly?
    If you aim to do something, and it comes out the way you wanted to do it, you've succeeded. Whether it's "poor" or not is merely subjective.
    I like the eye-rape colors, jagged edges, and background noise in this show. I also like listening to bands like The Locust or Dillinger Escape Plan that many music-listeners would describe as disorganized noise. It's an aesthetic issue, not a quality one.
    >> §tocking !Do4Hmq/BkI 10/29/10(Fri)17:23 No.41852193
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    >>41851883
    >assuming that I was serious.
    Replied to a sarcastic statement, ya I got it.
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)17:23 No.41852197
    >>41852141
    >I had to look a while just to figure out what's going on.
    this definitely doesn't apply to me

    it had the worst art in the entire episode maybe but it wasn't hard to grasp
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:24 No.41852221
    >>41852006
    Oh christ I'm seen. I knew my filenames would get me identified somewhere someday.

    Yes that's me. I don't hate episode one, I'm just picking on the aspects I didn't like, and getting worked up because that's what 4chan does to people.

    Also working on a "redline" or whatever to explain why it's a bad composition.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:25 No.41852243
    >>41852181
    HA! Not that guy, but he proved you fags wrong so all you do is avoid the evidence in your ugly little face.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:25 No.41852245
    >>41852182

    I didn't expect to meet someone with badass music taste in /a/.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:26 No.41852263
    >>41852114
    did I say it was?

    I did say "Give ME" as opposed to "Give all of us, that's what we all want!"

    So please, leave your teenage rage at the door, hoss.

    That being said, I believe that background gags only add when there's plenty of funny (or build-up to funny) on-screen, so having generally poorly-written scenes with gags thrown into the background is not ideal for me, as far as comedy goes.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:26 No.41852281
    >>41852092
    Yeah, well I mean like I said, it was the most interesting sequence in that episode (which is disappointing when Sushio is at the helm)

    You'd probably just assume it was 2D right off the bat because so rarely do the Japanese incorporate any squash and stretch and cartoon deformities into their CG. The use of CG in Panty and Stocking is actually pretty impressive for the Japanese. I like the way they've kinda 'simulated' speed lines when the camera tracks fast through a background.

    But really when you turn off the anime and watch something by Pixar or even Blue Sky which is full of cartoony animation you realise they're kinda behind
    >> (ノ✤▽✤)ノ !1iJPaIase2 10/29/10(Fri)17:27 No.41852284
    >>41851990

    Reading the SakugaWiki article on PanSto, it looks like you're right. In fact, they mention it as a "genuine CG stand-out" they would like to see more of.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:27 No.41852285
    >>41852245
    I don't expect to meet someone with good taste in ANYTHING on /a/.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:27 No.41852302
    That episode was depressing as fuck
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:28 No.41852319
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    >>41851935
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:28 No.41852324
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    do we gots horrible subs yet?

    link if we do?

    picture a gift, for link.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:28 No.41852325
    >>41852124
    Nice try, expecting anybody on /a/ to know one of the best movies ever.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:28 No.41852333
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    >ITT:
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)17:28 No.41852337
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    >>41852221
    do you really hate all the other episodes that aren't 1 that much? because goddamn, I find it very hard to imagine someone thinking Sex & Daten City or Cat Fight Club looked overall bad.

    I do think the bits you cherry-picked are the weakest, and Highschool Nudical was the worst looking episode because it was made almost entirely of stuff like that, but the other episodes past 1 have had plrenty of very cool looking bits

    Akira Amemiya is probably still young so his timing needs a little work (the first time the red riding hood-esque ghost swung that axe looked a tad off) but his sequences were still pretty sweet imo
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:29 No.41852360
    >mfw japanese find bodily function jokes shocking and offensive, yet are perfectly fine with torture and gangrape of little girls.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:29 No.41852361
    >>41852324
    Nope, we only got CrunchySubs 720/480p and Zero-Raws
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:29 No.41852376
    RD animator here again, none of you have proven to me why this is good animation. P&S is shit, simple as that.
    >> Nonoriri !!qNvS3vir9ht 10/29/10(Fri)17:29 No.41852380
    Episode 10 was great.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:30 No.41852398
    Highschool Nudical is the only Panty & Stocking episode I've been genuinely bored with. Episodes 9-10 were fucking gold, though.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:30 No.41852399
    >>41852281
    Gainax has been using squash and stretch for decades, just not gratuitously. Squash and stretch does not have to deform the characters either, it can be mimiced through body motion. And are you seriously comparing Gainax to Pixar or Blue Sky? I love their stuff as much as anyone else, but do you realize the difference in budgets they get, and the fact you're comparing 3d stuff to traditional 2d animation?
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:30 No.41852405
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    anyone using erik satie as the soundtrack is immediately a god

    i thiought this was fucking amazing
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:31 No.41852421
    itt: haters who jerk off to milky holmes
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)17:31 No.41852427
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    >>41852281
    dude have you ever seen some trash like Storm Hawks? AMERICAN CG TV don't use deformation to such an extent either

    it didn't help that one of the earlier bits of CG in that episode stuck out like a sore thumb (the bit where the ghost car spins around - the police cars looked fine but the ghost car itself moved awfully and just looked bad)
    >> diebuster 10/29/10(Fri)17:32 No.41852458
    >>41852399
    >Gainax has been using squash and stretch for decades
    but not in 3D CG from what I know

    god knows maybe FLCL had a lot of really really REALLY well integrated 3D CG beyond the bullet time bits and I didn't even notice them!
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:32 No.41852461
    >>41852376

    You haven't explained what makes it bad without resorting to subjective statements, either. I could quote the SakugaWiki regarding its quality, but it would literally mean nothing as pretty much every American-styled animation would disagree with the stuff posted in the SakugaWiki.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:33 No.41852478
    >>41852337
    Again, I'm stating my views more fervently than what I actually believe because this is 4chan, where everybody is opinionated and it just provokes people (it also brings up interesting debates sometimes, I've done it before and been proven straight up wrong, which is actually refreshing).

    I haven't HATED the rest of the show, it's just not lived up to my expectations visually. The humour's been sporadically improving, at least.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:34 No.41852496
    >>41852427
    >using Storm Hawks ad an example for good CG

    You just lost all credibility
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:35 No.41852526
    deep? no
    funny? no
    entertaining? no
    well animated? no

    No reason to watch this shit any more, dropped.
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:35 No.41852528
    >>41852461
    Quote it for me instead
    >> Anonymous 10/29/10(Fri)17:35 No.41852541
    >>41852137
    Neither side is really getting told shit



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