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    103 KB Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:31 No.41809667  
    http://newtype.kadocomic.jp/psg/news/001166.php
    >Ordinary moe anime songs are boring, says Panty & Stocking music producer
    OST will be out on 29th December (a little after series end)
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:32 No.41809680
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    It's true.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:32 No.41809687
    >OST will be out on 29th December
    End of December? Fuck.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:33 No.41809704
    tell that to the 55k faggots that bought tea time 2
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:34 No.41809727
    >平凡な「萌えアニソン」なんて、つまんないっ

    Yep, it's true. Taku said this.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:34 No.41809729
    Having the m-flo guy do music for this show was the best choice EVER.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:35 No.41809737
    2 months to go.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:36 No.41809767
    >萌えアニソン
    >moe anime song
    >moe anime

    See? Even Japan itself knows that moe has become a genre. YotsubaC sure got told.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:36 No.41809774
    I have no idea about viewership, but I'd bet on that as soon as this turns out to be the least-watched show of the season in Japan, the entire country will again reassure itself that making anything that is not moe is a huge mistake.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:37 No.41809787
    C-C-CLAP YOUR HAND

    I like that song better than FLY AWAY NOW
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:38 No.41809808
    >>41809774
    Well, I hope not.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:38 No.41809816
    >>41809767
    They're talking about "over the top cutesy" songs, take the first OP of K-ON S2 for example.

    Moe still isn't a genre, deal with it.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:39 No.41809819
    >>41809767
    someone cap this. might be useful later on.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:40 No.41809839
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    >>41809774
    First of all, P&S is moe.

    Second of all, the 2ch thread post count is quite high, and it seems to have a large fanbase, hell, P&S is getting the most fanart out of any show this season.

    Hopefully it should sell modestly well.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:41 No.41809855
    >OST will be out on 29th December

    That long? Fuck.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:41 No.41809860
    >>41809816
    >ordinary moe anime songs
    Doesn't sound all that specific to me, sport. Don't be a sore loser.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:42 No.41809864
    >>41809819
    >Doesn't know how to take a screenshot.

    Typical "moeisagenre" retard.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:42 No.41809873
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    >>41809839
    >P&S is moe
    Bitches and whores are moe now?
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:44 No.41809895
    >>41809873
    yes your mother is moe
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:44 No.41809896
    >>41809873
    to defend moeshit moefags try to classify everything as being moe.

    Spice and wolf = moe
    Kaiba = moe
    sora no woto = moe
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:44 No.41809903
    >>41809873
    It has several moe elements, take stocking for example.

    It often parodyizes said moe elements, but they're still present.

    P&S is moe, deal with it.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:45 No.41809926
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    >>41809873
    >>41809896
    You should try learning what "moe" means before you use it.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:46 No.41809931
    >>41809896
    >sora no woto = moe
    It is moe and shit.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:46 No.41809936
    EVERYTHING IS MOE, DEAL WITH IT HURF DERP DURF
    Maybe you faggots should consider a career in politics with such great counter-arguments.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:47 No.41809945
    >>41809873
    Stocking is about as pandering and moe as you can get
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:47 No.41809946
    >>41809926
    >chart /a/ made
    those are always so helpful!!11!1
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:47 No.41809952
    >>41809896
    Horo is moe.
    All the cast in Sora no woto are moe.

    I never watched Kiba.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:48 No.41809968
    >>41809926
    Sorry, bro, I don't feel aspergian enough to read your dissertation-length chart.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:48 No.41809969
    >>41809926
    >moe
    >Not a method of pandering

    Hurr.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:48 No.41809971
    >>41809936
    The agrument here isn't that "Everything is moe", it's that P&S is moe, or at least Stocking is moe.

    If you honesty think that P&S has no moe elements then you don't know SHIT about anime.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:49 No.41809976
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    >>41809926
    >moe is a relationship between emotion and the object of emotion

    >this is what moefags actually believe
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:49 No.41809989
    >>41809952
    >I never watched Kiba.
    I'm not even going post a reaction image.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:49 No.41809991
    >>41809926
    Words evolve in their meaning. Sure it was a personal attraction at first but now it means lucky star bullshit characters and shows.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:49 No.41809993
    >>41809952
    See what I mean, according to them everything is moe. Fucking retards.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:51 No.41810004
    Although it can be debated if P&S as a show is "moe", but it's pretty clear that Stocking is suposed to be moe as fuck.

    Stop creating a shitstorm, both of you.
    >OH NO, A SHOW I LIKE MAY BE MOE I BETTER PROVE HIM WRONG
    >OH NO, SOME IDIOT THINKS THAT THIS SHOW ISN'T MOE, I BETTER PROVE HIM WRONG
    >HURR
    >DURR
    >> Anonymous of Indonesia !!lmP87a0MaEW 10/28/10(Thu)10:51 No.41810005
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    >>41809819

    Some 5-seconds shoop.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:51 No.41810015
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    >mfw people seriously believe P&S as characters were created for neckbeards to swoon at
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:52 No.41810024
    >>41809993
    But those characters ARE moe, just not the "kawaii uguu~" moe that you see in K-ON.

    Yes, the shows themselves wouldn't be considered "moe", but Horo can be considered moe and so can the entire cast of Sora no Woto.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:52 No.41810033
    inb4 YoutsubaC
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:52 No.41810039
    >>41810024
    Why?
    >> Anonymous of Indonesia !!lmP87a0MaEW 10/28/10(Thu)10:53 No.41810045
    >>41809926

    Japan agreed you're wrong. Don't bother them about it.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:54 No.41810064
    >>41810039
    Horo has her moments of cuteness, and her vulnerability and the urge the viewer has to comfort her, or watch lawrence comfort her makes her moe.

    And Sora no Woto is just K-ON with guns and a few GRIMDARK episodes.
    >> Anonymous of Indonesia !!lmP87a0MaEW 10/28/10(Thu)10:55 No.41810080
    >>41810064
    >And Sora no Woto is just K-ON with guns and a few GRIMDARK episodes.

    In before delusional Sora no Woto fanbois.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:55 No.41810097
    >>41809991
    Sounds like people who use the word moe in any context are as fucked up as the narutard so kawaii faggots. Use English and don't waste your education.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:56 No.41810102
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    >>41809926
    Wow, I can just imagine the neckbeard of the person who made this.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:56 No.41810103
    You know, if he said "moe anime genre" than you might have an agrument, but he didn't.

    He just means that doing cute songs all the time is boring.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:56 No.41810104
    >>41810064
    Horo's got a clear sexual desire in her show that isn't the viewer. That she wants to fuck makes her not moe.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:57 No.41810122
    >>41810104
    That doesn't void all the other things that make her moe, you know.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)10:58 No.41810143
    >>41810103
    that neckbeard image says moe is not just cute shit.

    So what is it then? Cute shit or some emotional resonance you have with some fictional creation? Can't have it both ways.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:00 No.41810182
    >>41810122
    so a moe character can also have a boyfriend? Then what was the butthurt around Kannagi about?

    They just have to be virgins too?
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:00 No.41810187
    >moe anime songs
    Maybe he meant that the songs themselves are moe?

    Oh The Man Comes Around, I wish you were real ;_;
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:01 No.41810188
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    >this thread
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:01 No.41810191
    >>41810182
    waifufags, like this guy http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/816601-man-marries-pillow
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:01 No.41810194
    >>41810182
    That was retarded Otaku.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:02 No.41810217
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    >>41810182
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:03 No.41810231
    Whether Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt is "moe" or not is irrelevant.

    If you watch it because it's "not moe" then you're a retard.
    If you watch it because it's "moe" then you're a retard.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:06 No.41810291
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    so fucking easy
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:06 No.41810301
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    >>41810024
    >Yes, the shows themselves wouldn't be considered "moe", but Horo can be considered moe and so can the entire cast of Sora no Woto.
    So can any modern anime character, if you're going to put it that way. They've just been recycling the same flat stereotypes since Evangelion -- and maybe even before that.

    Everything is apparently moeshit, either in the "wrong" disgustingly adorable moeblob way, or in the way you guys are describing with your emotional connections to bland stereotypes or whatever. Either way, SHIT FUCKING SUCKS.
    >> Butta !!QV74WmZuY1j 10/28/10(Thu)11:06 No.41810309
    >>41809926
    idontwanttoliveinthisworldanymore.jpg
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:07 No.41810327
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    Is Naruto moe?
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:09 No.41810354
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    get your facts straight
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:10 No.41810380
    moeshit is when the characters are created solely with the intent of hitting moespots.
    This is hardly the case with panty and stocking.

    Now shut your goddamn mouth, moefags.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:12 No.41810432
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    >>41810354
    No, YOU get your facts straight.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:13 No.41810441
    can we agreed that moe is moe?
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:13 No.41810443
    Anyway, concerning the OP, I completely agree.

    Having some Japanese pop singer or one of the seiyuu sing some innocuous but uninteresting song about love with the musical integrity of a singing birthday card really isn't that great.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:13 No.41810445
    >OST will be out on 29th December

    Greatest birthday present, ever.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:14 No.41810458
    >>41810441
    I'll agree that moeshit is moe.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:17 No.41810540
    YAY! After my soundtrack thread last night this makes me joyous.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:17 No.41810552
    >>41810441
    no, there are shows that are meant to be moe but aren't
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:18 No.41810559
    >>41810301
    How is Horo recycled? She is a lonely old lady hesitant to pursue a relationship because she knows it will have a bad end that will put her in more pain.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:18 No.41810565
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    >>41810380
    >This is hardly the case with panty and stocking.

    You just keep on telling yourself that.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:18 No.41810571
    >>41809945
    I'm starting to think people haven't seen the character-driven episodes if Stocking is actively used for moe to people.

    There's her appearance and interests, but she can be a kinky and silver tongued bitch on the drop of a hat if she doesn't need to be responsible for what she does.

    But to be on topic,
    If M-Flo didn't know what was boring, who would?
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:19 No.41810588
    Moe is a genre. These are anime that focus on that kind of pandering and little else. K-On is one such example

    You can have moe outside of the moe genre, but only if the show is not constructed around it.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:19 No.41810590
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    >>41810441
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:20 No.41810612
    I agree with this guy. I like Ika Musume but the OP for that show is ear-bleedingly bad and the ED is just mediocre. I wish they'd at least try to make good music for moe shows.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:22 No.41810639
    >>41810588
    Moe is not a genre. Anyone who passed English will know this.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:24 No.41810673
    >>41810639
    When the primary goal of a show is to shovel moe at the audience it is a moeshow in the moe genre.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:24 No.41810674
    >>41810639
    explain.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:24 No.41810678
    >>41810612 Ika Musume but the OP for that show is ear-bleedingly bad
    I agree. Shit's ear cancer.

    a moe song done right - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRsFNgVCiNo
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:25 No.41810702
    K-On is not a moe show. It is a show about a music club.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:26 No.41810714
    >>41810673
    nobody complained about K-On! when it was just a manga with the same characters doing the same things as they do in the anime

    think about that for a second
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:29 No.41810790
    >>41810702
    Naruto is not a shounen show. It's a show about the way of shinobi.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:30 No.41810804
    >>41810714
    nobody complained about a manga nobody read?

    I see.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:31 No.41810822
    >>41810790
    >shonen
    >genre

    Hmm. Yeah, you see why this post is retarded?
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:32 No.41810831
    >>41810612

    True. I really like Squid Girl, but I must skip OP and ED or else my ears bleed.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:32 No.41810837
    >>41810714
    The K-On manga was a decent 4 panel manga. The anime added a lot that has little to do with it.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:32 No.41810843
    >>41810714
    Nobody reads manga
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:32 No.41810846
    P&S is HGainax trolling the shit out of both moefags and moehaters. By the time the series ends both sides of the argument will be nothing more than blithering piles of wasted flesh.

    And then Gainax will start releasing the merchendise.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:32 No.41810849
    >>41810822
    Fighting shonen is a genre. So is moe seinen.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:35 No.41810912
    >>41810849
    You see, thing is, they aren't.

    Action, Fantasy, Comedy, those are genres.

    All you did was add words in front of a demograhic and try to classify it as a genre.

    That's like me calling Bubbles & Sparkles shojo a genre.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:38 No.41810959
    >>41810912
    So you're telling me that fighting shonen isn't a genre? Even under your rigid construct it would be a subgenre of Action.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:42 No.41811023
    >>41810959
    >So you're telling me that fighting shonen isn't a genre

    Yes, I'm saying Action is a genre. Fighting is an often used element of stories under the action genre.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:50 No.41811175
    in my language moe, shonen, shoujo, seinen, etc. are all genres.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)11:55 No.41811255
    >>41811023
    That's just semantics. Dragonball, One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, HxH are all the same type. They have more in common with each other than with other action series like Berserk or Ghost in the Shell.

    K-On, Soranowoto, and Lucky Star are all the same type as well: subgenre of Slice of Life which focuses on otaku pandering.
    >> Anonymous of Indonesia !!lmP87a0MaEW 10/28/10(Thu)13:02 No.41812564
    bump
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)13:50 No.41813708
    >>41809926
    Are you fucking kidding me? That definition is way too broad to be of any use. Fuck off, moetard weeaboo, trying to bend reality to suit your needs.

    >>41809667
    >Ordinary moe anime songs are boring, says Panty & Stocking music producer
    Not "boring", per se, but rather "fucking annoying". Listen to this, is like Alvin an the Chipmunks on acid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYTjN8b3lTE
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)13:53 No.41813765
    >>41811175
    >shonen, shoujo, seinen, etc. are all genres.
    Those aren't genres. Those are DEMOGRAPHICS.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)14:00 No.41813980
    Using the terms shounen, shoujo, josei, and seinen when talking about anime is somewhat wrong. Shounen is a demographic term, and with manga, the demographic is defined explicitly by the magazine the manga runs in. Action, Romance, and such are genres, and are not explicitly defined by the magazine.

    Demographics don't give explicit details about what a manga might contain, just a general idea like "A manga in a shounen magazine is geared for young boys".

    Genres give explicit details, they give explicit information about the type of plot. They give you a good idea of what to expect from the manga.
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)14:04 No.41814077
    >>41813980
    >Using the terms shounen, shoujo, and seinen when talking about anime is somewhat wrong.
    Well, the terms come from the manga world, but are perfectly usable for anime, given the fact that broadcast hours are different for each demographic.

    Also, nobody gives a rat's ass about "josei"
    >> Anonymous 10/28/10(Thu)14:05 No.41814089
    MOE IS A BUZZWORD. A BUZZWORD IS A WORD THAT COMES INTO WIDE USE BY PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BOTHER TO PROPERLY UNDERSTAND THE USAGE, AND IN DOING SO, DEVALUE ANY MEANING ATTACHED TO THE WORD.



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